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Speaker 1: core of their Trump is evil. That is what this

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Speaker 1: gives them license to say in their minds. That's why

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Speaker 1: they won't stop. They won't allow this to be an

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Speaker 1: honest discuss because I think that Trump didn't handle this

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Speaker 1: as well as he could have. I think that what

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Speaker 1: he said wasn't under the circumstances, what I would have

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Speaker 1: advised or would have wanted him to say. But he

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Speaker 1: didn't say that. This was you know that the white

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Speaker 1: nationalists are good and that Neo Nazis are fine people.

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Speaker 1: That's just a lie, and people are lying about what

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Speaker 1: he said, and very intentionally. But I thought it was

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Speaker 1: so interesting today because this debate broke out, at least

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Speaker 1: on social media, about whether it is now racist to

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Speaker 1: say that Robert E. Lee is a great general. You

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Speaker 1: can't say Robert E. Lee's a great general. Now when

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Speaker 1: you talk about great you can have a whole discussion

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Speaker 1: about you know, Alexander the Great conquered a lot of

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Speaker 1: the known world at the time, amazing military feats, but

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Speaker 1: was not a guy that I think if you put

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Speaker 1: him in the current context in terms of the amount

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Speaker 1: of people that he killed along the way, that you

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Speaker 1: would necessarily think was a great guy. And then you

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Speaker 1: have Genghis Khan for example. If you say Genghis Khan

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Speaker 1: was a great, a great military mind, a great war leader,

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Speaker 1: does that mean that you're okay with the genocide that

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Speaker 1: the Mongols engaged in on a pretty regular basis. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Mongols would go in and if you haven't ever

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Speaker 1: heard it, I would recommend Dan Carlin's hardcore history on

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Speaker 1: this one. The Mongols would go in and they would

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Speaker 1: kill an entire city. If the city resisted, everybody, everything, men, women, children,

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Speaker 1: everyone dies, whole cities. No one saying that Gengghiz Khan

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Speaker 1: murdering every man, woman and child in a city is

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Speaker 1: ethical or good. But if you're talking about military capability,

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Speaker 1: the expansion of state authority under arms, and yeah, then

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Speaker 1: guess what, it's pretty impressive, pretty impressive what Genghis Khan

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Speaker 1: pulled off and in so many ways. Genghis Khan was

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Speaker 1: one of the great military leaders of all time, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that he's a good guy or everything

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Speaker 1: he does is okay. And the case of Roberty Leeds

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Speaker 1: obviously an even more nuanced discussion with was he fighting

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Speaker 1: for Virginia? Was he actually fighting for slavery? People argue

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Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in South right now are yelling as they

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Speaker 1: hear this. He was not pro slavery. I know this.

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Speaker 1: I've read biographies of Lee. But he fought for the Confederacy,

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Speaker 1: and there is now a very active effort to make

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Speaker 1: everyone who took up arms for the Confederacy to be

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Speaker 1: akin to Nazis. That's really what the that's what the

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Speaker 1: left and the Democrat Party today. Remember the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: of the of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and

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Speaker 1: the ku Klux Klan. That's that's all Democrat Party stuff.

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Speaker 1: But now the Democrat Party are very brave warriors for

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Speaker 1: truth and justice on this issue, you know, after the fact,

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Speaker 1: and they really want to believe that anybody that had

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Speaker 1: anything to do with the Civil War on the side

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Speaker 1: of the Confederacy was it was morally equivalent to a

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Speaker 1: Nazi And I think that's you know, that is that

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Speaker 1: is unfair. That is unfair. Although these conversations in history,

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Speaker 1: they do come up in other context too, And it's

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how people get very very tense, very

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable when you point out things like, Okay, it's one

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Speaker 1: thing to admit a member of the Nazi Party, It's

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Speaker 1: it's another thing to be a member of let's say

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Speaker 1: the SS. But is every Wehrmacht conscript that fought for

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Speaker 1: the Germans and the Second World War? Are they all

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of the guys running the death camps? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's they fought for the wrong side,

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Speaker 1: They fought for an evil side. Is every person who

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Speaker 1: fights for the wrong cause to be held accountable for

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Speaker 1: everything in that cause? I mean, what if you are

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Speaker 1: facing the ruination or destruction of your and your family

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Speaker 1: unless you're willing to serve. What if you're fighting for

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Speaker 1: nationalist causes, meaning that love of the nation not national socialism?

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Speaker 1: You know? Is that a see? People, you can even

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Speaker 1: have this discussion if you say that there are great

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Speaker 1: not meaning great men, so that there are great generals

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Speaker 1: who fought for the Confederacy. That is a military judgment.

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Speaker 1: But today I saw because Trump said that or tweeted

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Speaker 1: that Robert E. Lee was a great general. This caused

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stir. You know, if I were to

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Speaker 1: study the tactics of Rommel, who was very well respected

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Speaker 1: as a tactician, no one saying that, you know, he

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Speaker 1: was okay that he fought for the Nazis. But if

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Speaker 1: you study the tactics of Rommel and say that he

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Speaker 1: was a great tactician, does that mean that you were

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Speaker 1: advocating for Nazi Of course not. But it's very hard

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Speaker 1: to have adult conversations these days when there are so

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Speaker 1: many leftists who are just looking for a way to

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Speaker 1: bash the opposition and everyone involved with it, in their

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Speaker 1: political opponents as just racist. That's they love to go

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Speaker 1: with racist and now white nationalist alt right. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are areas where they could criticize Trump and it

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Speaker 1: would be at least a real exchange about something meaningful.

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Speaker 1: But what they'd rather do is just debase, defame, and

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Speaker 1: smear and really go after the person and really suggests

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Speaker 1: that he's just an evil human being. It's not enough

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Speaker 1: to say they don't like his policies, and this is

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Speaker 1: common among Democrats all over the place. It's not that

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Speaker 1: you and I are disagree with them, say on climate change,

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Speaker 1: because you know, there was a map that was floating

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Speaker 1: around the internet yesterday and all over social media at least,

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Speaker 1: and it showed what is going to happen to Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles if we don't stop climate change. And my friend

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Speaker 1: David Harsanyi pointed out that what's going to happen is

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Speaker 1: that if people believe this, you would think that they

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Speaker 1: would be willing to sell their beachfront Malibu mansions at

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Speaker 1: a considerable discount. But they're not, and they won't. Why

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Speaker 1: is that they really think that the Los Angeles shore

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Speaker 1: is going to be underwater in ten years. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to be locked into a a ten million dollar

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Speaker 1: home that's not going to be around in ten years.

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Speaker 1: That's not a good idea. But it's not that we're

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Speaker 1: wrong on that. It's that we're evil, We're bad, we're

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Speaker 1: bad people. That is what the left believes, and they

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Speaker 1: also believe a lot of other things that are not true.

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Speaker 1: Here's Joe Biden, who was on the View today. Joe

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Speaker 1: seems to have a very close relationship with Megan McCain,

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Speaker 1: which just I'm just noting that that's what I've picked

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Speaker 1: up on. But Joe said this about the Obama administration

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Speaker 1: that he served in play thirteen. I'm very I'm incredibly

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Speaker 1: proud to have served with him. And the thing I'm

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Speaker 1: proudest of is we coincidentally, we're each in a different

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Speaker 1: part of the country, and we were each talking to

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Speaker 1: groups of people that were being televised, and at the

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Speaker 1: same day, purely coincidentally, D asked the question, what are

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Speaker 1: your proudest of your administration? I know what I said.

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Speaker 1: It turns out he said the same thing, and probably

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Speaker 1: a little more clearly than I did. That not one

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Speaker 1: single whisper of scamper, not one. He's amazing. I know,

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Speaker 1: he's the best. He's the smartest, the most handsome, the

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Speaker 1: best dresser. He's amazing. Do you remember the tan suit

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Speaker 1: he wore. He was so handsome in it. Remember Operation

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Speaker 1: Fast and Furious? Remember Benghazi? Remember the Irs targeting conservatives

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Speaker 1: in an election year. None of that is None of

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Speaker 1: that is worthy of scandal. Huh interesting. Here's a little preview, though,

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Speaker 1: I think where this conversation will go pretty soon. You

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Speaker 1: know what. The real scandal with the Obama aministration is

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Speaker 1: going to end up being the complicity of Obama's top

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Speaker 1: national security officials in the Spygate collusion conspiracy theory. And

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Speaker 1: I do believe that not only will we find out

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Speaker 1: that this was essentially created almost out of just fabricated

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Speaker 1: out of thin air with the dossier, but that beyond that,

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Speaker 1: I think Obama knew a lot more about this than

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Speaker 1: anybody wants to admit. I think Obama let this play out.

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Speaker 1: And therefore, when we know the full scope of the

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Speaker 1: deep state spying and the efforts to have a soft

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Speaker 1: coup against the president, there will be and the media

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Speaker 1: will never admit this because they still think that there

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Speaker 1: was collision. I mean, they're crazy, but the media, you

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Speaker 1: can't worry about them. They'll never come to an honest conclusion.

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Speaker 1: The information will be out there and we will know

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Speaker 1: that Obama knew enough that he should have stopped this,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't, and he didn't because he didn't want to,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't want to because this was the ultimate

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Speaker 1: backdoor way to stop Trump and we all know it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, we have George Popadoppolis joining for the

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Speaker 1: full hour coming up here. He's gonna take you right

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Speaker 1: into the heart of the deep state conspiracy theory. We

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Speaker 1: have that coming up here in just a moment. I know, FBI,

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Speaker 1: guess these are the best in the world. But the

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Speaker 1: people leading at Komi and McCabe and Strook and Page

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Speaker 1: and all of these people. The lawyer who admitted frankly

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Speaker 1: how crooked things were. I mean, when that testimony comes out,

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Speaker 1: it's already come out partially, when that testimony comes out

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Speaker 1: from the attorney for the FBI, you'll see. So I

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Speaker 1: really say, now we have to get down because this

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Speaker 1: was a coup. This was an attempted overthrow of the

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Speaker 1: United States government. President Trump saying what I think did

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Speaker 1: happen here, which was a deep state effort to undo

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Speaker 1: to first prevent the election of Donald Trump, and then

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Speaker 1: to undo the election of Donald Trump, and to use

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Speaker 1: some of the most powerful tools in the federal government's

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Speaker 1: surveillance and law enforcement arsenal to accomplish that task. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot of unanswered questions here, things that I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to let us fall by the wayside, and

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Speaker 1: there's justice that still very much needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, I want to bring our friend

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Speaker 1: George Papadopoulos. Now I'm sure you've heard the name before.

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Speaker 1: He got caught up right in the center of what

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Speaker 1: became the Muller Probe and the FBI's earlier efforts to

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Speaker 1: investigate Russian interference in the election. He ended up taking

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Speaker 1: a guilty plea and spending a short stint in jail

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Speaker 1: for Muller's, in my opinion, radically over zealous and politicized

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Speaker 1: prosecutorial efforts. But he is the author and he's on

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Speaker 1: a book tour right now of Deep State Target How

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Speaker 1: I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to

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Speaker 1: bring down President Trump. He's also a former Trump campaign advisor.

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Speaker 1: George Man, is so good to have you on. I

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Speaker 1: know we talked before, but I'm glad to get you

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Speaker 1: on the radio show. Oh, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. It's a real honor, George. So I want

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Speaker 1: to spend some time. It's a Friday, and you know

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Speaker 1: there's not the world's not on fire right now with

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Speaker 1: some huge, crazy story that we got to spend our whole,

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Speaker 1: all of our time on. I want to get into

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Speaker 1: because this is what's coming next. You your story. Carter

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Speaker 1: Page's story. How did this whole Russia collusion narrative get

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Speaker 1: spun up? So if you would just walk me into

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Speaker 1: it's the summer. I mean, I want you to take

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Speaker 1: us back to the beginning a little bit here, and

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Speaker 1: then work us all the way through to when Muller

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Speaker 1: is threatening you, threatening your girlfriend, saying all kinds of

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Speaker 1: stuff that I want you to explain to everybody. Tell

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Speaker 1: me what was going on the summer of twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Your Trump campaigns in full swing, you're an advisor, you

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Speaker 1: get some offer to go to the UK. What happens? Yeah, well, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a very complicated story. And I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: say this first. My entire case was never about Russia,

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Speaker 1: was about Israel, and Bob Muller himself stated that unequivocally

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Speaker 1: in his report. For some reason, reporters either intentionally overlooked

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Speaker 1: it or they just did not read the fine Prince.

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Speaker 1: But if you see the Bob Muller report, and I've

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Speaker 1: even tweeted this on my accounts at George Poppa nineteen,

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Speaker 1: he stayed said George Poppidapolis had search warrants and other

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Speaker 1: surveillance warrants issued upon him to look into his quote

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Speaker 1: substantial context to Israel, but unfortunately for them, they said

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Speaker 1: that the evidence wasn't sufficient to charge me with the

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00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: FARO violation. So why am I bringing this up Because

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00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: all of my encounters with these Western intelligence operatives, including

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned in the summer of twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: they targeted me for those ties and not Russian ties,

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Speaker 1: because of course I have no Russian ties. I've never

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Speaker 1: been to Russia. I've never met a Russian official in

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Speaker 1: my entire life. And as somebody who was working for

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Speaker 1: five years at a neo conservative think tank in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. With people like Scooter Libby, dug Fights and

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Speaker 1: set Cropsy, the last thing I was doing was promoting

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Speaker 1: Russian interest throughout my entire career. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to qualify exactly what my case was about at the

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot level and now get into the specifics

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00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: when I was meeting with these operatives. Joseph Mipsud, who

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Speaker 1: by the way, has recently been outed last week living

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Speaker 1: two blocks away from the usmbassy in Rome, and right

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Speaker 1: now the Italian government has issued some sort of inquiry

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Speaker 1: into him and the university that he's currently being paid by,

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00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: called Ling campus. It's going to highlight probably another reason

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Speaker 1: why Donald Trump called the Italian Prime Minister last week,

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Speaker 1: and they probably discussed this person. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of exactly who was running this

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Speaker 1: person at me. But let's let me get back to

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Speaker 1: the summer of twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen, I had

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Speaker 1: been working for a company named the London Center for

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Speaker 1: International Law Practice. Yeah. Yes, And anybody who does a

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Speaker 1: simple superficial examination of this organization, you won't find any

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Speaker 1: Russians working there. You'll find a lot of ex Western

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00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: diplomats working there, the top lawyers of the biggest law

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Speaker 1: firms in the world affiliated with this organization, and many

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00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: six CIA types who were directly or indirectly involved with

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Speaker 1: this company. Now, immediately upon joining the Trump campaign, and

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Speaker 1: as I just stated, I was working for this company,

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00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: they were horrified and they said, before you go, please

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Speaker 1: come with us to Rome where we need you to

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Speaker 1: meet some very important people. And a woman named Arvind

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Speaker 1: or Sambe, who is a very important woman who's never

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Speaker 1: been discussed before and involved in the Russia probe, but

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Speaker 1: she's heavily involved in my case, and I think also

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Speaker 1: related to the Bruce or involvement in the Trump Tower

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Speaker 1: meeting or the Trump Tower investigation because arvind Or Sambe,

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Speaker 1: who was a director at this company I was working for,

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Speaker 1: unbeknownst to me at the time, had we used to

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Speaker 1: work directly with Bob Muller after nine to eleven, and

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: she actually was working as a legal at TACHE for

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Speaker 1: the FBI in the UK while she was also affiliate

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Speaker 1: affiliated with this company I worked for. So she tells me,

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Speaker 1: why don't you go to Rome. We're going to introduce

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Speaker 1: you to some people there who are going to help

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Speaker 1: you with your Trump campaign stuff. And I said, of course,

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Speaker 1: that's great. I go to Rome to this university called

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Speaker 1: Link Campus now wise Link Campus significant because Link Campus

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Speaker 1: has been written about extensively by David Ignatius of the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post and others. And this is a CIA FBI

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Speaker 1: training school in Rome that it trains not only Italian

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Speaker 1: intelligence officials, but the CIA and FBI. Previous directors and

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00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: deputy directors have actually spoken at this university and have

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Speaker 1: even taught courses at this university. So it's a very

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Speaker 1: prominent school in Rome. And that's where I meet Joseph Mipsud.

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Speaker 1: Now Joseph Mipsod just to fast forward and to summarize

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Speaker 1: who this person is. For the last two years, he's

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00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: been characterized by Bob Muller as the man who was

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Speaker 1: a Russian agent who fed me information in late April

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Speaker 1: that the Russians had Hillary Clinton's emails and I was clusing,

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Speaker 1: hold on one second. This is just I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure everyone's following everything you're telling me. You're so

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Speaker 1: you're you're on a Trump campaign, and someone approaches you,

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Speaker 1: this woman you just mentioned and says, come to this

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Speaker 1: university because we'd love to talk to you. Basically, like

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00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, this is like connection, building rapport, that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. And Joseph mipsued he has been accused by

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Speaker 1: Muller of being essentially a Russian intelligence cutout. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: has been accused and portrayed to the world for two

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Speaker 1: years as a Russian cutout who was feeding me information

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Speaker 1: about the Russians possessing Hillary Clinton's emails. Now, I just

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Speaker 1: want to make it clear. Joseph Mipsud was introduced to

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Speaker 1: me by an FBI intermediary that I used to work

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Speaker 1: for in London named Arvinder Sambe. And when I get

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Speaker 1: to Rome. I am introduced to Vincenzo Scotti, who was

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Speaker 1: the former Foreign Minister of Italy and acted as the

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Speaker 1: rector of this university, and he passed me along to

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Speaker 1: meet Joseph Mipsud. Now, why is this meeting in romeso importance?

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Speaker 1: Besides that it led to this incredible espionage scandal that

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Speaker 1: we've been living last couple of years. Just today, just today,

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Speaker 1: meaning this morning in Italy on the front page of

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Speaker 1: one of Italy's largest newspapers, Il Foglio. And I'm fortunate

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Speaker 1: that my wife is Italian and she reads these papers,

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Speaker 1: and she had many connections to the Italian government, so

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Speaker 1: she knows Mipsud's network over there. She showed it to

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Speaker 1: me and she said, do you know what this is?

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Speaker 1: I said, no, what does it say? Joseph Mipsud's lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Rowe, this prominent Swiss attorney who's representing him, went

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Speaker 1: public and stated that when George Papandapolis was introduced to Mipsud,

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Speaker 1: Mipsod was working quote undercover. Now what does that mean

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Speaker 1: when if I'm introduced to this person Joseph Mipsued at

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Speaker 1: a spy school that trains a CIA and FBI and

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00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: he quotes undercover when he's meeting with me, and then

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Speaker 1: tells me three weeks after I meet with him that

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Speaker 1: the Russians have Hillary Clinton's emails, which I believe, and

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Speaker 1: I think many people now who know my case believe

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00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: there was some sort of counter intelligence sting operation. Again,

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00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: this was a dangle. This was tell we would call

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Speaker 1: this a dangle. They they set you up by putting

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Speaker 1: forth this guy, and they put you in the position

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Speaker 1: and they offered up this information and then you know,

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Speaker 1: keep going. But that's that's the terminology for this. Keep going. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So this is very important. So fast forward after Joseph

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Speaker 1: Mipso introduces me to no One in the Russian government

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Speaker 1: or no one of any substance in Russia, which I

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Speaker 1: had been actively seeking at that time, he one day,

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Speaker 1: as I'm trying to distance myself from him, on April

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, tells me that the Russians have Hillary Clinton's emails. Now,

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Speaker 1: the dates are very important here because timelines have consequences.

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Speaker 1: And wait, I just gotta jump in Hillary Clinton's emails,

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Speaker 1: not Podesta DNC emails. I never heard the word DNC

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Speaker 1: and I never heard the name John Podesta Okay, because

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Speaker 1: because because the Hillary Clinton email thing, that was a

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Speaker 1: rumor that was out there that even I heard myself

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Speaker 1: at the time about Russia. But keep going, yes, so

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought he was doing. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was validating rumors. And I also didn't understand why or

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Speaker 1: how this individual who couldn't even introduce me to the

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Speaker 1: Russian ambassador in London could have this information that apparently

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world wanted or wanted to know about.

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Speaker 1: So I was very suspicious about this person. And why

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Speaker 1: is it important to understand that this meeting that he

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Speaker 1: told me this information on was on April twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: because about ten days before Joseph Mips had told me

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Speaker 1: this information, I was contacted by the Australian embassy and

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Speaker 1: I met with a woman named Erica Thompson over lunch

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Speaker 1: by this Israeli diplomats, which there's a lot of suspicion

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Speaker 1: about who this person really was, and he's actually there,

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Speaker 1: he's being scrutinized actually in Israel itself, from what I've

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Speaker 1: been told presently, at an Israeli diplomat who I had

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Speaker 1: been put in touch with, who hated Trump called Christian

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Speaker 1: Cantor in mid April told me one day, I want

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Speaker 1: to introduce you to my quote unquote girlfriend, and his

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Speaker 1: quote unquote girlfriend just happened to be an Australian intelligence

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Speaker 1: officer who also worked as a top assistant to Alexander Downer.

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Speaker 1: Later on I would find that out, and I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: there and I'm a little shocked that two potentially intel

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Speaker 1: officers from two different countries are dating. We're living together,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't believe the story. Anyways, I went along

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00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: and I was just listening to this woman, Erica Thompson

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Speaker 1: in mid April tell me and that Trump is a

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Speaker 1: pariah and that his views on global security and trade

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Speaker 1: are viewed as hostile to Australian interests and even to

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Speaker 1: British interests. And you know, many pundents at the time

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Trump this way, even to this present day,

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Speaker 1: around the world, many leaders don't like him. So I

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00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: laughed it off. I didn't think too much about it.

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Speaker 1: And then Joseph Mipsot on April twenty six tells me

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Speaker 1: this information. And five days after Joseph Mipso tells me

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Speaker 1: this information, I'm approached by two DA officials from the

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Speaker 1: USMBC in London named Gregory Baker and Terrence Dudley, and

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Speaker 1: these two officials, I'll never forget it. The moment they

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00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: meet with me. Gregory Baker starts speaking to me in Greek,

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Speaker 1: suggesting that he knew that I was fluent in Greek

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Speaker 1: and other languages. And Terrence Dudley began to speak to

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Speaker 1: me about his thesis at TuS University, which had to

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Speaker 1: do with the energy business and the Caucuses, which I

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00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: was a recognized expert on in the Mediterranean. So I

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00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: right away felt that they were sent to meet me.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't cleared by who, but I played along and

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Speaker 1: they were spending probably the equivalent of a thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: on me over four meetings, over drinks and dinner, probing

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Speaker 1: me about my ties to the Israelis. They were probing

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Speaker 1: me about what Trump was doing with Russia. And then

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Speaker 1: they were telling me that I should go meet with

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Speaker 1: the US Defense at Shay and Athens who I had

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Speaker 1: known previously, Captain Robert Palm. Where we were George, George,

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Speaker 1: hold on, wait before we get the attache. I got

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Speaker 1: to go into a quick break here. I want you

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Speaker 1: to continue on exactly where we are everyone, We're talking

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Speaker 1: to George Popadopolis, the man himself at the center of

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Speaker 1: the Special Council Russia Collusion, Delusion Storm. He's got a book,

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Speaker 1: Deep State Target, How I got caught in the cross

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Speaker 1: airs of the plot to bring down President Trump. We're

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00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: going to have more with George, a lot more coming up.

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Speaker 1: We're back with George Papadopolis, author of Deep State Target,

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Speaker 1: How I got to the crossairs of the plan to

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Speaker 1: bring down President Trump. George was right at the center

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Speaker 1: of this, all right. So, George, as we left off,

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Speaker 1: you were then being set up for a meeting. You said,

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Speaker 1: where defense at tesche Where? Yes, in Athens. Now, I

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00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: just want the listeners to understand, these people don't reach

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Speaker 1: out to you unless they know that who you are

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Speaker 1: and what connections you have. And I was on a

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Speaker 1: almost first name basis with the presidents and prime ministers

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Speaker 1: in Israel, Cyprus, Greece, and my connections were so high

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Speaker 1: in Egypt that I ended up brokering the meeting between

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00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Trump and CC at the UN General Assembly. So my

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00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: contexts were all in the Mediterranean. And that's and this

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00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: is what all of these operatives wanted to know about

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Speaker 1: That's why they tell me, you know, you need to

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Speaker 1: go to Athens and you need to meet with Captain

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Speaker 1: Robert Palm, who I had met I think a year before,

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Speaker 1: and the US Army at Sache, I forget his name,

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Speaker 1: and I want to meet the US Army at Sache

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Speaker 1: in May at his house, we had a nice dinner

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Speaker 1: and in Athens the US Army at Sache and he

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00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: was probing me as well. And then I met Captain

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Speaker 1: Robert Palm, who a couple of days after, I met

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Speaker 1: with the Greek defense minister who was a friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: Panos Komenos, and where Pantos Kaimenos essentially was telling me

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Speaker 1: that he wants to be Native's best friend and there's

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for this grease Israel alliance to basically upend

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Speaker 1: the previous security How does this time to Russia in

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Speaker 1: the investigation though, because now we're getting down into the weeds,

856
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: people might start to lose this. So what does this

857
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: have to do with them thinking you're at the center

858
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: of Russia collusion? Well no, no, this is actually the

859
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: main point I'm making is I have nothing to do

860
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: with Russia. I was targeted for a completely different thing,

861
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: and all these operatives were testing me to see what

862
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I knew about this sensitive part of the world. Then

863
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: you have this person, Joseph Mipsud, throwing this unsolicited information

864
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: in my lap about emails. So he told you about

865
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: the emails. You did not tell him, of course not.

866
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was having a conversation with

867
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: him as if I'm doing it with you right now,

868
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: and you dropped bizarre information in my lap that I

869
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: didn't ask you for, like you have a gun and

870
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you if you have a gun or not.

871
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: So that's what this information was. It was unsolicited. I

872
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: didn't want it, and he never told me how he

873
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: received it. Now, why is this so important? You're right,

874
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: let's not get into the weeds with the military Atach's

875
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: target meeting with me about other topics about Alexander Downer. Now, Now,

876
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Alexander Downer wanted to meet with me about ten days

877
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: after Joseph Mipsud told me this, and three days after

878
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: the US defense, the DA guys met with me in London,

879
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: and who messaged me to set up this meeting between

880
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Downer and I. That same lady, Erica Thompson, who I

881
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: was introduced to in mid April by the Israeli diplomats,

882
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: and she messaged me on May six. I looked back

883
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: at my records the same day that I was meeting

884
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: the DA and she said, my boss, Alexander Downer would

885
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: like to meet you on May tenth. Would you like

886
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: to meet with him? I said, of course, I go

887
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: to this meeting with Alexander Downer. I write about this

888
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: extensively in my book of how bizarre this meeting was,

889
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: and I feel immediately upon sitting down that this is

890
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: an asset that was sent to make contact with me,

891
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: that he was spying on me. I testified under oath

892
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: to Congress about my belief that he was spying on me,

893
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: and I revealed to the FBI and Bob Muller himself

894
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: that I felt that Alexander Downer was spying on me

895
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: and recording my conversation because of his very bizarre behavior

896
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: and his use of his phone and how he was

897
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: pointing at me and other things. So when I met

898
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: with Alexander Downer, there's this nonsense or this fake story

899
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: of he and I being drunk in a meeting and

900
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: talking about emails. This was a very belligerent diplomats. He

901
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: The first thing I did when I said down at

902
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: the table was being shocked because he's telling me to

903
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: stop quote bothering his good friend David Cameron, and Donald

904
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: Trump should stop bothering his good friend David Cameron. And

905
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what was happening. And then he started

906
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: getting into these tangents about Cyprus and why my ideas

907
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 1: on Cyprus are a threat the British because he doesn't

908
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: believe that the Church should leave Cyprus. And George, George,

909
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: I gotta cut in here for a second because we

910
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: have to go again into a commercial break for a moment,

911
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: but we're going to come back talking to George Papadophlus. Everybody.

912
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: He is laying out the whole story. And this is

913
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: where the investigation, the IG report, this is where everything

914
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: is heading. Is what happened with George Popadopolis, the fbhind

915
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: investigation carter page. We're getting it from the man himself,

916
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: deep State target. How I got in the crosshairs of

917
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: the plan to bring down President Trump is the book.

918
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: George Papadoplas is the man. We have more with George.

919
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: What happened in that meeting with Downer and then what

920
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: came after that that's going to be in just a moment.

921
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: Welcome back, team. We've got George Papadopholis with us here

922
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: for a deep dive into how he became the deep

923
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: State target, which is also the title of his book,

924
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: which I highly recommend to all of you who want

925
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: to know what really happened in this spygate scandal. George,

926
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: you were telling us about the meeting with Alexander Downer.

927
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Please continue. Yes. So, I was reached out to by

928
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: Alexander Downer's assistant who had contacted me initially on April fifteenth,

929
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: and she contacts me on May sixth and says, I

930
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: would like Alexander Downer would like to meet with you.

931
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: And on May sixth, I was reached out to by

932
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: the DA at the US Embassy. So I go and

933
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: I meet with Alexander Downer on May tenth. And this person,

934
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: his behavior was so disturbing that I ended up reporting

935
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: him to Bob Muller and fby myself because I felt

936
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: that he was spying. I mean recording my conversation and

937
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: let me explain to you what was happening in this meeting.

938
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I sit down and right away he tells me that

939
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: your boss and you better leave my good friend David

940
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: Cameron alone. And I didn't understand what he was talking about,

941
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: but I think something was happening between David Cameron and

942
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: Trump regarding the Muslim band comments. Then he starts to

943
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: probe me about the US China relationship and my ties

944
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: to Cyprus and Israel and why those are threatening and

945
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: why I shouldn't be advising Donald Trump about those issues. Now,

946
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: this is important to understand because it deals. It goes

947
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: right into the Stefan Helper meeting, which I'll get to

948
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: in a second, about Israel and Cyprus. After he starts

949
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: asking me about the Mediterranean and China, he begins to

950
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: pull his phone out, and I felt that he was

951
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: overtly spying on me, as he was holding it up

952
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: front and looking in a very stern manner in my face.

953
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: So I didn't understand what this person was doing instead

954
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: that he except that he was asking me questions. Okay,

955
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: we get it. He's creepy, he's weird. George, you met

956
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: with Downer in them one? Yeah. So then after that,

957
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember Russia ever being brought up by me.

958
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't remember the contents of anything regarding Russia. So

959
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: this story where he disclosed information to the FBI about

960
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: me and Russia makes no sense. And of course there's

961
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: no official intelligence from Australia. And for everybody at home,

962
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: this is what's so important. You are the person who

963
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: is listed, and you've gone through all your contacts and

964
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: conversations here and this is all on the record now

965
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: with a special counsel. You were the person the FBI

966
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: was saying, oh, we need to start a full field

967
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: investigation in July of twenty sixteen because someone tied to

968
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: Trump knows about the Hillary emails that were hacked by Russia.

969
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: And what you're telling us is that this is all

970
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: crap and they set you up. Basically, well, that's a

971
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: very good way to put it. And I told the FBI,

972
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: I told Muller, and I told Congress. I never told

973
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: down or anything about these emails. And even Downer himself

974
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: has contradicted himself at least three times in subsequent interviews

975
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: he's given about whatever he thought was said self. Course,

976
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: so the three texts for the entire investigation on you

977
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: was based on a false premise, which is that you

978
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: were running around drunk and running your mouth about how

979
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: Hillary's emails got hacked by the Russians and you knew

980
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: about it, and the Trump camp pay knew about it.

981
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: You're telling me that is because that's the story of

982
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: the media ran with. You're telling me that is a lie.

983
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Of course it's a lie. And I'll just quote Mark Meadows,

984
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Congressman Mark Meadows from a podcast he gave I think

985
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: two weeks ago where he stated that Papadopolis was around

986
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: five percent of the predicate that went into whatever this

987
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: investigation was, A ninety five was about to doociate an

988
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: other things. So of course this was just a convenient

989
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: cover story where you have a Clinton ally like Alexander

990
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: Downer lying about a meeting and stating, oh yeah, this

991
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: guy said something about emails, and it just becomes a

992
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: convenient cover story for Americans to simplify things for Americans. Okay,

993
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: And so once that meeting happens, you're done with the

994
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: Downer meeting. It's very weird. When do you realize that

995
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: the federal government is coming after you? I started, I

996
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't have an idea until I was interviewed by the

997
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: FBI in January of twenty seventeen, but I did believe

998
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: that my meeting with Stefan Helper in September of twenty sixteen,

999
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: where he paid me three thousand dollars for a paper

1000
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: on the Israeli energy business and he flew me to London,

1001
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: I felt that he was recording in spine on me

1002
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: because he was very bizarre and very hostile the way

1003
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: that Downer was. So I didn't understand anything except I

1004
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: was having very strange, unproductive meetings with these various people

1005
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: until the FBI came to my house in January twenty seventeen.

1006
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: And I had a right when Trump takes right when

1007
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: Trump actually becomes president, right around then you get an

1008
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: FBI visit. I'm attending the inauguration at a party with

1009
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: ranks previous two days before the FBI comes to my house.

1010
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: And I believe the FBI came to me and Flynn

1011
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: within forty eight hours of one another, so clearly they

1012
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: wanted to get after him and I very quickly, and

1013
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: there's probably the reason for that, that's just that has

1014
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: yet to be understood. So they come to my house.

1015
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: They're talking to me for three hours about numerous contents,

1016
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: things including the Israeli angle that I just told you about.

1017
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: And then they asked me if I heard anything from

1018
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: Russians or about hacked emails, and I say, of course not.

1019
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: But a Maltese man named Joseph Mitsa told me this information.

1020
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: And then later on we find out that this person

1021
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: and had been working as an operative for Western intelligence.

1022
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: So I'm not clearest to exactly what I lied about

1023
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: or what my entire case was really about regarding Russia

1024
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: when we now know it was a complete setup. Right,

1025
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: So the FBI came here to talk to you, and

1026
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: you told them all this stuff. And then when does

1027
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: the Special Council enter the picture? So the special counsel

1028
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: for you enters the Yeah, the Special Council answers the picture.

1029
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: When I'm arrested in a savage like manner in the

1030
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: summer of twenty seventeen, after I'm coming off a flight

1031
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: from Italy going back to the United Wait, So you

1032
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: spoke to the FBI in January twenty seventeen, the Special

1033
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: Council arrested you. You had no other contact in the

1034
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: summer of twenty seventeen, No, nothing, nothing. I was arrested

1035
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: in a savage like manner without even understanding what I

1036
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: had done wrong? If how did they arrest? You? Tell

1037
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: me about the takedown? I want to know. Sure, sure,

1038
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm on a shuttle bus, you know those

1039
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: famous shuttle buses. I had Dullars Airport, and I'm looking

1040
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: across from me, and I see two men in suits

1041
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: and ties while everybody else is in sweatpants because we're

1042
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: all coming off a fifteen hour flight. And I know

1043
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: that these ragents. And as soon as I get to

1044
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: the kiosk, they rushed me to a room where there's

1045
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: seven agents. They're waiting for me. They're rummaging through my

1046
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: bags looking for something, and whoever reads my book will

1047
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: understand what I think they were looking for, because we

1048
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: don't have time to talk about it now. But I'm

1049
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: then told I'm under arrest. My Miranda rights aren't read

1050
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: to me. I have handcuffs and shackles thrown around my

1051
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: hands and feet. I'm thrown in the back sheet of

1052
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: a black tinted out SUV and I'm in a cell

1053
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: without being given access to my lawyers. UM and I'm

1054
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: looking in front of a judge the next day where

1055
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking where they're saying, you're looking at twenty five

1056
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: years in prison without me even being shown on arrest warrants,

1057
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: read my miranda rights or told initially why I was

1058
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: being arrested. So if you read my book, you'll understand

1059
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: why I think the FBI, well, they were what they

1060
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: were trying to do was charging you with some nonsense

1061
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: substruction of justice charge that made no sense and a

1062
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: lyne to the FBI, and then they had this far

1063
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: violation apparently with my Tis Israel. But that was what

1064
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: their nonsense case was all about. Of course, they used

1065
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: tactics probably that the KGB would use on their own

1066
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: citizens to you know, screw me up psychologically. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I probably pled guilty so quickly without actually understanding

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Speaker 1: what my case was really all about, because when you're

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Speaker 1: dealing in these counterintelligence investigations, so much exculpatory evidence that,

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Speaker 1: especially in my case, which is it's clear now was

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Speaker 1: is never provided to the defendant. And at that point,

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Speaker 1: this is twenty seventeen, people think Russia collusion is real.

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: They think that Trump's in the pocketarction you got, you

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01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: got totally ambushed by these guys. What is the lie

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Speaker 1: that they claimed that you told that then led to

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Speaker 1: your what was a two week prison sentence. My eleven

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Speaker 1: nights in this minimum security camp, which looked more like

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Speaker 1: a university dorm than a prison, was because and it's

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Speaker 1: in my record now on the of my status of

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Speaker 1: effec is because I misremembered when I met Joseph Mipstood

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Speaker 1: a year before the FBI came to my house. They

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Speaker 1: say that I said I met him in April or

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and before I joined the campaign initially, but

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Speaker 1: then they showed documents that suggested I met him while

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Speaker 1: I was on the campaign. So it was so stupid,

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Speaker 1: so ridiculous that I don't want to speak for the

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Speaker 1: honorable judge who sentenced me, of course, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing that, but to get an eleven night sentence for

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Speaker 1: a federal crime, you know, people even in the prison

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Speaker 1: were laughing about it and saying, what on earth was this?

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Speaker 1: And I think, what was it like when you dealt

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: with Did you get to talk to Muller directly and

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: did you ever get to look at him and just

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: be like, why are you doing this to me, dude?

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: I explained in my book the moment when I realized

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Speaker 1: the FBI set me up, and it was in December

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, when they pretty much made it clear

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Speaker 1: to me that Joseph Mipsod had been working for them

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Speaker 1: the whole time. But we don't have time for me

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Speaker 1: to get into the exact details. But I never saw Mueller.

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Speaker 1: I was dealing with Andrew Goldstein, this guy Zelinski, and

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Speaker 1: Janie Ree and the FBI agents who took me down.

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Speaker 1: And what were they? What were they like though Jeanie

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01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: Reim and she's part of the Special Council? Were they

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01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: Did you think that they were fair minded? No, of

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: course not. These people. My impression of them was that

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: they were Hillary Clinton's personal lawyers, that they basically were

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01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: out to get any scalp they can, just to show

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Speaker 1: case that this is what happens when Hillary Clinton loses,

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01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: this is what happens when her honors, you know, in

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: the mud, and when you help a person like Donald

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01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: Trump get elected president. There was no crime here. I

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01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: think Muller and the FBI and even Peter Struck, according

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: to his own text messages, that there's no they're there

1115
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: regarding Russia collusion. They knew there was nothing going on

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: with us in Russia, especially in my case, where I

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01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: explained to you, I was under investigation for a completely

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: different thing that had nothing to do with and Fara,

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: especially far with Russia is one thing because people were

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Speaker 1: all paranoid about Russia. Fara with Israel is not something

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Speaker 1: that in any normal time anybody would be prosecuted criminally

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Speaker 1: for in Washington, DC. It just wouldn't happen. I know

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen. Well, like I said, I'll just I

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: just will refer you and the listeners to actually read

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: the Muller report and you'll see what he writes about

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: that aspect. No, no, I've seen the part of it.

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01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you got I mean, you got homes,

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Speaker 1: my friend, That's what that was all about us. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. So when they actually told

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01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: me they were going to charge me with that, I

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: was half laughing, half shocked, because, like you said, this

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in normal times. Clearly there was a vendetta

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: against the Trump campaign and anyone who even made a

1134
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: slight mistake was going to have the kitchen sing thrown

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: at them. And in my case, they went to the

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: extent where they were probably going to try and jeopardize

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: a security relationship with our one of our top allies

1138
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: just to put me in jail. So it just goes

1139
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: to show you the depths of hell that these people

1140
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: went to to go after myself and probably Michael Flynn

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: and Roger Stone and people like Corsi, who fortunately didn't

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: plead guilty. But this was a real witch hunt. This

1143
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: was a persecution. I don't even call it a prosecution.

1144
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just very happy now to finally

1145
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: have a chance to breathe and get my story out

1146
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: and hopefully it's used now to assist the new investigations

1147
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: into the investment. Right. I want to I want to

1148
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: take us there next, George. I want to know what

1149
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: you want answers to what you hope the Inspector General

1150
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: and the DOJ. I mean, I have people that I trust.

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, George, how you feel about this, but

1152
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: people that I trust say that that bar is a

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: good man and an honest man, and he wants answers

1154
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: about what happened, including to you. So I want to

1155
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: come back to this part of the story in a moment.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to George Papadopolis, author of Deep State Target,

1157
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: which you can get now on Amazon, and we'll be

1158
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: right back with George. Stay with me, all right, everyone,

1159
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: we're talking to George Papadopolis, man at the center of

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01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: all this Russia collusion nonsense. As he's been pointing out,

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01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with Russia, knew nothing about Russia,

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01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: never been to Russia, and yet the Special Counsel came

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01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: after him like he was Pablo Escobar. Deep State Target

1164
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: is George's book. George, Okay, so now you know you

1165
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: went to this, you went through this whole process. Clearly

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01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: they came after you. They're trying to justify stuff, in

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: my opinion, that had been done all along the way.

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: They're trying to cover their tracks by using you as

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: a fall guy. Your a scapegoat for both the FBI

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: deep state effort and then for the Special Counsel Mueller

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01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: to justify what they're doing and create this perception of

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: some kind of international nexus of collusion. What do you

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01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: want answers to now? What do we have to find

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01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: out in order to get some justice and accountability here? Well,

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and I think Congress already has

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Speaker 1: a lot of these answers, but they're being coy and

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Speaker 1: what do I mean my testimony the Congress has been

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Speaker 1: recently released, I think two weeks ago. I testified in

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Speaker 1: front of the House Oversight Committee four months ago where

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Speaker 1: I was in front of Mark Meadows, John Rathcliffe and others,

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Speaker 1: where if you actually look at the transcript now, all

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty nine pages of it, it's actually

1183
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: a very fast read. You can almost infer yourself that

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Speaker 1: Congress or members of the US government themselves are in

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01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: possession of transcripts of my meetings with people like Joseph Mipston,

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: Alexander Downer, and Stefan Helper. So what that suggests to

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Speaker 1: me is that these clearly were people looking to entrap me,

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: and they were working with the FBI or the CIA,

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: or even probably the British Intelligence services to either spy

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: on me or to dirty me up. And now the

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01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: US government has is in possession of those. I want

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Speaker 1: those to be released if they are, if they do exist.

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: I know Mark Meadows has been tweeting a lot lately

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01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: about so called tapes. The puppet up was tapes that

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Speaker 1: he wants released, So I'm very curious to see what

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: he's talking about and who was actually recording me, if

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Speaker 1: not one of those men or all three of those men.

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Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. The second thing is, of

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Speaker 1: course Donald Trump must declassify the three O two is

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Speaker 1: the FISA warrants and the FISA applications, because I have

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: been told myself that I had a FISA warrants issued

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: on me, and I also was told by somebody that

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: Michael Flint had a FISA warrant issued on him as well,

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: not simply this harder page FISA. So it's going to

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how Stefan Helper as well,

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01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: who is basically spying on Flynn and I at different times,

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01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: is going to be revealed as an informant of the

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Speaker 1: Intelligence services. And now the information, no matter how DADA was,

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: was being fed to the FIST accord from him. So

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Speaker 1: I want to just see, you know, the three things

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Speaker 1: I really want to have exposed are the rolls of

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Speaker 1: the three men I just labeled, Alexander Downer, Stefan Helper,

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Speaker 1: and Joseph Mipsud. I want all the FISS declassified, and

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Speaker 1: I want the three O two is declassified because by

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Speaker 1: doing this you're really going to get to the origins

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Speaker 1: of how this investigation all started, and it will prove

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: once and for all how dirty and sellacious the information was,

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: the evidence was that was used to basically target us

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Speaker 1: and illicitly spy on us. And now that we have

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Speaker 1: all this new information out, including that the docier was

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Speaker 1: a fake and Joseph Mipsud was never a Russian spy,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what kind of information was

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Speaker 1: used to get FISA warrants and wire cap members of

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. So I think the only way to

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of that is, of course, if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump declassifies it. And I'm very happy people like

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 1: Mark Meadows and John Ratcliffe are the on the worst

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01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: are going on the on the offensive now and on

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: the on offense now and asking him to do it.

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: So it will be a good time to be an

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Speaker 1: American when that's revealed. It's going to be a great

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Speaker 1: moment in American history. And by doing that, it'll probably

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Speaker 1: safeguard Trump's re election in twenty twenty, because if he

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: doesn't go on the offensive, you might have rogue CIA

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Speaker 1: and FBI elements who might go after him again and

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: we might have an entire new scandal next year. So

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: I think he has to put a stop hit and

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: that and that's the only way he can do it.

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Speaker 1: We've only got about a minute, George, and this has

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: been fascinating. I just want to ask you. Has anyone

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Speaker 1: from the White House kind of just reeched out to

1242
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: you to say, you know, keep your chin up and

1243
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: stay in the fight. You know, I know that my

1244
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: attorneys are very close with people working in the White House.

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: I am just keeping out of it. I don't want to,

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, be viewed as somebody interfering in anything, because

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01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: I understand that they're so ongoing investigations with Muller and

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: there's clearly going to be new investigations by bar and

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: Horowitz and Hoober. So I'm not reaching out to them.

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01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if my lawyers have been in touch

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: with them. But my goal right now is simple, and

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: that is going on programs like yours, going on TV

1253
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: and exposing the truth and giving names, dates and details

1254
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: of encounters that I had that I believe we're clearly

1255
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: set ups, and they were setups that were designed, as

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01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: you stated earlier, to use me as a fall guy

1257
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: to justify this elicit scandal and investigation into the Trump

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01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: presidency which almost led to his impeachment. All Right, George,

1259
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: George Papadopolis, Everybody, Deep State. Target is the book. It

1260
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: is available on Amazon now. George Man, thank you so

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01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: much for joining us and really telling your story in

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: a way that we needed to hear it. And we're

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: going to follow up with you as we get more answers.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, my friend, absolutely, thank you. Buck. How crazy

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01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: is the Left when it comes to the troll of language.

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01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: It's a recurring theme on the show, My friends. I

1267
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: like to talk to you about it because the Left

1268
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: thinks that they can and sometimes do, win debates merely

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: by telling us what words we can use in the debate,

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: what words we can use in the discussion. And in

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: something called Common Wheel magazine, which I had never heard

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: of before I saw this piece on my alma mater,

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: Amherst College, which looks all New England e and cutesy

1274
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: and all the stuff you see the literature online, and

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: you know it's one of the more elite liberal arts colleges.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's write a little pat on the back there.

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Speaker 1: Who cares? Well? Apparently I do, because I just brought

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Speaker 1: it up. But no I don't, But yes I do,

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Speaker 1: But no I don't, But no, it's really a school

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Speaker 1: that you would think has its feet on the ground

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Speaker 1: based on the way it projects itself. But when I

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Speaker 1: was there, it was already losing its mind, and now

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Speaker 1: it has just completely gone wacko. There's a piece up

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Speaker 1: on something called the Common Language Guide, the Common Language Guide,

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Speaker 1: and this is from the Amirst College Office of Diversity

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Speaker 1: and Inclusion. Now Amerst only has eighteen hundred students and

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Speaker 1: has an Office of Diversity and Inclusion staff of twenty people.

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Speaker 1: There are twenty full time staffers whose only job is

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Speaker 1: just to talk about diversity and inclusion at this school

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Speaker 1: where there are only eighteen hundred students. To begin with

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Speaker 1: the table, I gotta walk you through some of this.

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Speaker 1: The table of contents. General terminology is ms race and ethnicity,

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Speaker 1: gender and gender identity, sexual and romantic identity, class, politics

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Speaker 1: and policy, global power, and inequality and disability. This is

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Speaker 1: fascinating and it is a very interesting look into the

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Speaker 1: mind of the AOC far left Bernie Sanders esque wing

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party today. It lays out with surprising

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Speaker 1: specificity terminology like accomplice, which I hadn't heard in this

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Speaker 1: context before, and this is what it So, there's a

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Speaker 1: term that the left, and some of this is I

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Speaker 1: just want you to hear some of the left wing

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Speaker 1: words that they are now using in order to win debate,

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Speaker 1: to win discussion, and we are told that we should

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Speaker 1: all use these as well. Ally is somebody who does

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Speaker 1: things the left likes. So if you are very pro

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Speaker 1: and this is all covered in this Amherst College Common

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Speaker 1: Language Guide, to keep in mind it's so Orwellian because

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Speaker 1: this is uncommon language. This is terms that they've either

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Speaker 1: changed the definition of or made up wholesale. So that

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Speaker 1: brings me to things like ally, which is if you

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Speaker 1: do things the left likes, you're an ally, you're one

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Speaker 1: of the good people. Accomplice is one of the bad people.

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Speaker 1: This is quote a term coined by the Indigenous Action

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Speaker 1: Network to critique the ways in which ally, as an

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Speaker 1: identity term, has been deployed absence of action, accountability, or

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Speaker 1: risk taking. There has been some critique of this because

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Speaker 1: of its association with criminality, when many marginalized communities are

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Speaker 1: viewed as already always criminal. Okay, let me unpack this

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Or we're taking a drive down. We're

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Speaker 1: going off the rails into left wing crazy train here.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening. They are using this term now to

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Speaker 1: indict people who take a position that is non active

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Speaker 1: right or rather or refused to take a position the

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Speaker 1: left likes. So think of it this way. If you

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Speaker 1: oppose the left, you're a bad guy. But if you

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Speaker 1: just won't do anything, if you won't be an ally

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Speaker 1: to left wing causes, then you are an accomplice to

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Speaker 1: I guess right wing bad people causes. Right. That's the

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Speaker 1: way they use this term. And their only problem with

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Speaker 1: it is not that this will obviously be abused, but

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Speaker 1: that the word accomplice kind of like some say the

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Speaker 1: word thug has racial undertones. They're concerned that accomplice, because

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Speaker 1: of its us the criminal use in the criminal justice system,

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Speaker 1: has racial undertones. I don't know what to tell you, folks.

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Speaker 1: This is it gets it gets crazier, it gets crazier.

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Speaker 1: Here we go fragility, hegemony, horizontal violence, inclusion, intersectionality. Now

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Speaker 1: you'll hear me talk. This is kind of like the

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Speaker 1: one oh one Progressive Action vocab deep dive. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're really doing here. So if you listen to this

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Speaker 1: and you go through this, maybe maybe it's worth listening

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,440
Speaker 1: to this part of the show More Than Once podcast

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Speaker 1: at My Friends Intersectionality, you hear me talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Those who were like, what is that? Which is fine

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Speaker 1: because I didn't know what intersectionality was until about two

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Speaker 1: or three years ago, I think, and I'm somebody who

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Speaker 1: likes to think of a pretty decent vocab Here's how

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Speaker 1: they define. Intersectionality a term coined by Kimberly Crenshaw to

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Speaker 1: name the intersections of multiple mutually reinforcing systems of oppression, power,

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Speaker 1: and privilege. This was first used to describe the experiences

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Speaker 1: of black women in the legal system. Intersectional theorists look

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Speaker 1: at how the individual experience is impacted by multiple axes

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Speaker 1: of oppression and privilege. These forces compound and complicate one another.

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Speaker 1: Microaggressions the verbal nonverbal indignities and denigrating messages targeting people

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Speaker 1: of historically and presently marginalized backgrounds that communicate hostile, derogatory,

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Speaker 1: or negative slights and insults. The accumulation and frequency of

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Speaker 1: such everyday occurrences can have a negative impact on the psychological, emotional,

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Speaker 1: and physical well being of the person impacted. That's right, folks. Microaggressions,

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Speaker 1: which the left beliefs can include and remember microaggressions added

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Speaker 1: up are what creates intersectionality, which is the intersections of

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Speaker 1: mutually reinforcing systems of oppression. Right, So intersectionality is the

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Speaker 1: oppression matrix. Think of it that way, like we're all

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Speaker 1: in the matrix. Neo intersectionality is the oppression matrix, and

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Speaker 1: microaggressions are in some cases the not just subtle but

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Speaker 1: unintentional and unknowing infractions of intersectionality. According to the Left,

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Speaker 1: like in fractions that add up to intersectionality. So you

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Speaker 1: don't think necessarily what you're doing is wrong. If you

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Speaker 1: say to somebody who has a really funky name and

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Speaker 1: it is clearly not American based on their accent, hey

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Speaker 1: where are you from? You think that you're asking on

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Speaker 1: a college campus. Hey, like you seem like you have

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Speaker 1: a cool personal story, and I would like to establish

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Speaker 1: some common ground with you as a human being who

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Speaker 1: just respects and likes other human beings. So tell me

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Speaker 1: where you're from, or tell me something about you, like

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Speaker 1: you know where you grew up. Intersectionality and microaggression theory

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: tells you how dare somebody assume that you are the other?

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Speaker 1: You might say, well, hold on a second, their name

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Speaker 1: is really unusual and their accent is really unusual. It's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good no. You can't make that get you

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Speaker 1: don't know. You don't know they came from some other place,

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Speaker 1: and you're by asking them if they come from somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: you are other rising them. Now, I'm sure that they

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01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: would not apply this logic to somebody who's like, my

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Speaker 1: name is fence Fence and video rgger like that's fine

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Speaker 1: because spens Fencing doesn't fit into intersectional oppression theory, and

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Speaker 1: therefore microaggressions against sence Fenson don't count. See what I'm

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Speaker 1: doing where we're just we're really getting into how all

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, all this stuff ties together for the leftist.

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Speaker 1: Then they got into their own definitions of oppression and

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Speaker 1: prejudice and privilege and power and social identity and social justice,

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Speaker 1: an anti oppression orientation to social and political organizations. That

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Speaker 1: is the that is the definition that they use. Oh

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Speaker 1: do you do you think? Do you think that we

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Speaker 1: are even a little bit done with this common common

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Speaker 1: language guide? Folks? Does this all sound common? How many

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Speaker 1: of you walk around? And I gosh, like, am I

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Speaker 1: intersectional like microaggression theory that I'm reading? Right now. It's

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Speaker 1: just like really upsetting me and I feel triggered. I

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Speaker 1: need a safe space. You don't use any of those

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Speaker 1: words because you're you're not brainwashed by the left. They've

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Speaker 1: created a whole separate way of speaking about reality that

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Speaker 1: is steeped in a victim mindset, and that uses terms

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Speaker 1: that not only signal to other people that they are

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Speaker 1: part of the virtuous and good left, but that they

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Speaker 1: use these terms because you're supposed to use them, and

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Speaker 1: by using them, you are buying into the ideology. You know.

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Speaker 1: This is like, instead of saying the legal aliens, say undocumented,

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Speaker 1: instead of saying political correctness, talk about intersectionality, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: going to know what side of that issue you're on,

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Speaker 1: which is that political correctness is not something we have

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Speaker 1: to worry about. Then they get into the isms able ism, ageism,

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Speaker 1: six cis, sexism, classism, ethnocentrism, eurocentrism, heterosexism, racism, sexism. They

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Speaker 1: have an a guide two isms here. You cannot make

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Speaker 1: this stuff up, folks. This is and they're saying this

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Speaker 1: is common. How many of you who have ever heard

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Speaker 1: or said the word cis? I can't even read it.

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Speaker 1: Cis sexism, which, if you're wondering, is the system of

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Speaker 1: belief that cis gender individuals are the privileged class and

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Speaker 1: are more natural, normal, or acceptable then transgender, gender, queer,

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Speaker 1: nine bond, non binary, and or gender nonconforming. This belief

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Speaker 1: manifests itself as the systematic denial of rights to trans

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Speaker 1: and non binary people and their routine mistreatment. So if

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Speaker 1: you have any issue at all with transgender rights, or

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Speaker 1: transgenderism or the transgender transgender agenda, say that ten times fast.

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Speaker 1: You are a cis sexist who is admitting microaggressions in

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Speaker 1: a system of intersectionality and are opposed to social justice

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Speaker 1: and are therefore an accomplice instead of an ally. See

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Speaker 1: we did. They're bringing it all together, bringing it all home.

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Speaker 1: There's more. The Amherst College president. Remember this is my college.

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01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: I went here. I have very little affiliation with it.

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Now it has not gone on. Notice that they used

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Speaker 1: to love to hear me talk about foreign policy to

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Speaker 1: all the kids and invite me up there. And now no,

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Speaker 1: I do not get invited up there. They do not

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Speaker 1: want to hear from me because I'm conservative. Therefore it's

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01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: it's like I'm the black sheep of the Amherst family.

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01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Now they pretend that I don't exist. They're not into

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Speaker 1: the buster. I want to tell you what happened though

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Speaker 1: on campus, because this was so bizarre and so radical

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: a document that the president took it down. But just

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Speaker 1: do you think that Do you think it stopped their folks? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: it goes on. Let's keep this deep dive going. So

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Speaker 1: we're back talking about this college Common Language Guide that

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01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: was put out that is really a piece by piece

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01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: explanation that goes through the words you're supposed to use,

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: the very politically charged and very specifically chosen and manufactured

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: words and concepts that go along with them that favor

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Speaker 1: left wing, very progressive ideology. And here's a there's an

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Speaker 1: analysis of it written by Rand Cooper, who's an also

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Speaker 1: an Amerst alum, And this just gives you a sense

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Speaker 1: of what this guide is like. Quote, reading the guide

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: is like stumbling into a trade journal article where specialized

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01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: language demarcates territory and warns off intruders, bristling with acronyms

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01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: and niche designations. It elaborates a system of identity via

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a profusion of phyla QTPoC af ab assigned female at

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Speaker 1: birth FtM, mx x TX a response by trans folks

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Speaker 1: who reject the terms FtM and MTF. I don't, folks,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what this stuff is, and I

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01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: read about this a fair amount. We wander into the

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Speaker 1: internal gender politics squabbles, as when we learned that boy,

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Speaker 1: a term describing a masculine presenting queer Black woman whose

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Speaker 1: gender presentation can be more fluid and or androgynous than

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Speaker 1: completely masculine, was purposely coined to be different from stud

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: ag aggressive girl because of the rigid conformity to masculinity

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Speaker 1: in those communities. Meanwhile, TURF trans exclusionary radical feminist denotes

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Speaker 1: feminists who reject trans women because they were once boys.

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Speaker 1: While this view has been rejected by most queer and

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Speaker 1: trans communities, the guide notes that TURF ideology still does

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Speaker 1: infiltrate many women's spaces. End quote. I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: no idea what the heck I just read to you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm somebody who spends a fair amount

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Speaker 1: of time trying to understand the left and leftist ideology,

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Speaker 1: and you know, trans exclusionary radical feminist. That is my

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Speaker 1: first ever experience with that, which which yeah, that's the

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: thing that we're talking about here. And then you get

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01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: into some other stuff. I mean, this is there is

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: a the common language guide, and this does feel very

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Speaker 1: soviet in a way. Is the most uncommon language imaginable

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: because it's it's made up. It's made up language. It's

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Speaker 1: words that did not exist until about five minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: And now we're in a situation where if you don't

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01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: use these terms, who don't understand these terms? You are?

1483
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: Who wants who come on class? Who's who knows what

1484
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: you are? Ah, yes, that's right. You are part of

1485
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: the problem because you, my friend, are an accomplice instead

1486
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: of an ally Dividing people in this way, it's a

1487
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: very very powerful tool to get social you know, social obedience.

1488
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: This author that wrote is Peace writes another basic problem

1489
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: lies in its language. Amorous Guy defines social justice as

1490
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: a vision of the world where all people and can

1491
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: live and be perceived as fully human on all levels.

1492
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: But if this is the vision animating the document, then

1493
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: why does it sound so non human? Trapped in its

1494
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: arid jargon, one thirst for something resembling living language. Instead,

1495
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: what we get is an endless proliferation of bureaucratic dicta

1496
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: and a roster of attitudes ordained by FIAT, and so

1497
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,520
Speaker 1: it may have originated in a search for understanding intolerance

1498
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: devolves into a relentless categorization of human experience, driven by

1499
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: a nearly compulsive preoccupation with the ways people can and

1500
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: wound one another. Yeah, this is language that I have

1501
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: to say, is meant to shut down debate. That's what's

1502
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: so fascinating about this. This is language that if you

1503
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: use it, you are essentially waiving. The white flag was

1504
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: out a microaggression. I don't know, can I say white

1505
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: flag not clear? If you embrace the terminology, you are

1506
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: accepting all that goes into it. If you don't understand

1507
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: or reject the terminology, then you're part of a problem.

1508
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: This was so orwelly in and out of control that

1509
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: the president of Amherst College, Carolyn Martin, who might I

1510
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: can't say I know or have met. The former president

1511
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: Amerge used to be Marks was his last name. I

1512
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: kid you not, and President Marks at my college graduation

1513
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: told all of us instead of Hey, great job, guys,

1514
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: here's some advice for the future. That Amherst was not

1515
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: living up to its social justice obligations because while you

1516
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: guys got to go here, a lot of people with

1517
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: less economic means did not, So we need to take

1518
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: in more poor people who don't pay. It's a great

1519
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: thing to say to a whole bunch of people whose

1520
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: families and the students with massive student loans and families

1521
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: that really, in many cases took quite a hit struggle

1522
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: to pay for the tuition. But Carolyn Martin initially took

1523
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: it down. This common language guide from Ambers College, where

1524
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: you get all the different left wing jargon jammed into

1525
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: one document. She took it down. She said that this

1526
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: is not something that is going to representative of where

1527
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: the school should be ideologically, and you know, she had

1528
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: some problems with it, at least the way it was presented.

1529
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Rock and roll, fellow patriots, we made ours go up

1530
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: to eleven. It's time for roll call, indeed Friday roll call,

1531
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: which is bittersweet because bitter sweet symphony. That's life is

1532
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: what we have to handle right now. Trying to make

1533
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: some money, trying to sell some something. Then you die.

1534
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I forget what the you know what I'm

1535
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: talking about, Mark, It's a good song. Everybody who's my

1536
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 1: age secretly loves Bitter Sweet Symphony. Right, yeah, fun fact

1537
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: about that song or not so fun, depending on who

1538
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: you are. They sampled some Rolling Stones music in it

1539
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: without giving any legal attribution or payment, and so the

1540
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, the Rolling Stones actually own the rights to

1541
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: that song. Isn't that pretty crazy? As if the Rolling

1542
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: Stones need the cash, But you mess with the Stones,

1543
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: you get the rock sun. So they do it all right.

1544
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Let's see here we have a first up well that

1545
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: is long Buck after three years, is from Thomas of

1546
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: ever escalating invasion of our southern border. Don't you think

1547
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: it is time we get some direct, real answers from

1548
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: the intransigent progressives, simply yes or no answers like the

1549
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: ones always insisted on by these snobs at these oversight

1550
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: interrogation hearings. Does the US have or not have active

1551
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 1: embassies in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and Mexico? Yes or no?

1552
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Does the immigration law specify that anyone requesting refugee or

1553
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: a silent status apply at the nearest embassy or consulate?

1554
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Would it not be less of an

1555
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: encumbrance an expense to transport a dozen lawyers to each

1556
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: of those countries to process applications for refugee or asylum

1557
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: status rather than have ten thousand of them illegally lawyering

1558
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 1: in our country awaiting status determination, yes or no. Where

1559
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: is the benefit of having thirty five million illegals in

1560
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: this country absorbing benefits intended for actual US citizens? Why

1561
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: are we spending US tax payermoney on third world countries

1562
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that refuse to cooperate with our laws? What is the

1563
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: purpose of having foreign embassies and consults of citizens of

1564
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: foreign countries refuse to comply, etc. Thomas very interesting thoughts

1565
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: and analysis here. The difference between a asylum claim and

1566
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 1: a refugee claim, I believe is that asylum claims happen

1567
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: inside the United States, so you get into you get

1568
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: to America and say I want asylum. Refugees apply externally

1569
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: to US borders, So that is an important distinction. Brian

1570
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 1: writes Buck good opening on Rising today on Biden's run. Wow,

1571
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: somebody who is part of team Buck who watches Rising?

1572
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: That's that's always fun. Why is nobody on either side

1573
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: of the media game talking about Biden and his son

1574
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: along with then Secretary of State John Kerry and his

1575
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: stepson's blatant corruption in Ukraine and China some seriously messed

1576
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 1: up stuff that Glenn Beck went into detail on last week. Week.

1577
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: No one is picking up on it on any network

1578
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: outside the Blaze. Well, I can tell you, actually, my

1579
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: my colleague John Solomon has broken some big stories on

1580
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: this one. John has been on the forefront of it.

1581
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: So yes, indeed, my colleague John Solomon and the executive

1582
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: director for Digital to Hill. He has been really the

1583
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: one pushing this story. And I think Glenn probably picked

1584
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: up on some of his reporting. But Brian, we talk

1585
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: about it here on the show. You know, I should

1586
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: have John on probably next week. Maybe I'll do that.

1587
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you've given me quite an idea, my friend. I

1588
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: like it. I like it like that, Yeah, baby, I

1589
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: like it like that. You guys remember that. I get so,

1590
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: I get so. I like it. Like Mark, that is

1591
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: not quite as good of a song, But I refuse

1592
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: to believe that you have never had a few shots

1593
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: off to kill it too many and swayed those hips.

1594
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 1: My friend, Maybe not to that song, but I've done

1595
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: that all right, fair enough, fine, be that way. Corey

1596
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: rights the chief from the classic Beverly Hills cop that's

1597
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: the quote. Wow, look at you. There's just the man

1598
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: who wrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club this morning,

1599
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: who disabled an unmarked unit with a banana. You must

1600
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: be the pride of your department. If you go listen

1601
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: to that on the YouTube or something, you're gonna say, Wow,

1602
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton really does sound like that crotchety old police commissioner.

1603
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: You will say that that will be how you feel.

1604
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: Podcast listener just heard the Beverly Hills cop quote Brian

1605
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Original Saturday Squad. All right, so a lot of you owen. Yes,

1606
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: I got the Beverly Hills cop reference from Thursday's show,

1607
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: just playing it on Google Play. All right, but alright,

1608
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: alright you guys. You know you guys got me here,

1609
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: But savor the flavor. It's not gonna happen again. Well,

1610
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: actually know it probably will happen again. TJ rites ps.

1611
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino had your rising clip on his podcast this morning.

1612
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: Ye ye, M I gotta I gotta tell you guys something.

1613
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino has always been a super nice and stand

1614
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: up guy to be in this business. And there are

1615
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: not that many people that I could say that I've

1616
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: interacted with who have gone out of their way to

1617
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: be helpful, and you know they're being helpful. So I'm

1618
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: a I really am a big Dan Bongino supporter. I

1619
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: think he's a great dude, and I think it's really

1620
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: cool to see him have a I mean, he's at

1621
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: a breakout in the last twelve or eighteen months where

1622
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: he's really now built built a Dan Bongino empire, and

1623
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. And he's a great dude, and

1624
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 1: he has been a behind the scenes friend to Team

1625
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 1: Buck for for years now. Oh and also DJ wrote

1626
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: this Buck, go ahead and tell Jamal that his new

1627
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: nickname for Elizabeth Warren e Ubs is lame. She should

1628
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: just embrace Pokahonas instead. Her path the nomination just around

1629
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: the Riverband? Huh huh, well, okay, um hmmm. I don't

1630
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna work, my friend, I don't know

1631
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: what just around? Oh? Is that? Is that from the

1632
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: movie Pocahontas? Mark fact check? Is that from Just Around

1633
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: the Riverband? Is that from like Pocahonas? I'm in kind

1634
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: of a singing mood today, all right, Taylor Beverly Hills

1635
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: cop reference, Jeremy Beverly Hills cop reference. All right, all right,

1636
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, yeah, you got me. I gotta make

1637
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: a little harder for this team. The movie quotes, the

1638
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: sly movie quotes maybe aren't sly enough. That is from Pokahontas.

1639
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: It is from Pocahonas. Just google. I just always know

1640
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: that one that's like, can you sing with all the

1641
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: voices of the mountain? I'm like, I don't think the

1642
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: mountain has voices, and I don't think the wind has

1643
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: colors with which one can paint. So to paint with

1644
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: all the colors of the wind, I don't think that

1645
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Pokehontas, maybe write some lyrics

1646
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: that makes just putting that out there. Jeremy also writes

1647
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: Mayor Bill Deblasio, proposing a green new Deal and regulations

1648
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: for NYC and hearing about Connecticut's unreasonably high taxes further

1649
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: reinforces my choice to live in the middle of the country.

1650
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: I think you should consider moving off the coast and inland,

1651
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: where your dream four hundred square foot apartment will cost

1652
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: about the same as your cell phone bill versus the

1653
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: cost of a kidney in DC. Just food for thought.

1654
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Shields high, Jeremy, if we can set up a major

1655
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: media hub where I can find gainful employment in the

1656
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: middle of the country. That sounds great to me. In

1657
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: the meantime, Unfortunately, I gotta I gotta be where the

1658
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: jobs are for somebody in my business, and that tends

1659
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 1: to be New York and DC. If you're gonna do politics, Kimberly,

1660
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm not usually one to fuss, but I'm making an

1661
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 1: exception the podcast. Your voice is so low. I had

1662
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: the volume up in twenty six. Still love you, bunches,

1663
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Oss Kimberly. Well, Kimberly, I don't think that was a

1664
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: problem for everybody, so it might just be your setup.

1665
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell you yeah, your nay, but I haven't

1666
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: heard that from it. Usually when I get three or

1667
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 1: four complaints about podcast issue, volume or something, that's usually

1668
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: on our end. But if it's just one I've only

1669
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: seen one today, then it's usually on somebody else. Although

1670
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: Glenn just wrote in here here we go, Glenn, Hey,

1671
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: podcast listener, I heard you talking about the Avengers movie.

1672
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out that every time I see

1673
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: the movie Captain America Winter Soldier, I can't help but

1674
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: think how the bad guys Hydra are a textbook definition

1675
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party. They want to eliminate all conservative

1676
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: and potential opposition with their warships. Ask Mark if he

1677
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 1: made that connection, Mark, did you make that connection? I

1678
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: try to separate politics in my fun movies, so no,

1679
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't think of it that way. That's probably a

1680
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: smart move, dude, you know, because see I have this

1681
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: thing where I try to do that as well. But

1682
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 1: if somebody really goes out there as a actor and

1683
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: says just crazy, annoying things, I can't I don't know.

1684
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: I can't always let it go, you know. I wish

1685
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: I was better with that, but I'm certain actors kind

1686
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: of I mean, Tim Robbins for a while was just insufferable.

1687
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: Oh my friend with the chihuahua that tries to pee

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Speaker 1: on my foot during the interview, Alissa Milano, that's right,

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01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: that chihuahua. It smelled conservative on me and tried to

1690
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 1: replace it with some other smell. That's what happens. I

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01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: don't remember his name. He was a decrepit little chiuaua,

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01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: not quite as decrepit as the docks in with the

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01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: bad back that tried to bite my face off at

1694
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: the baby shower in New Jersey. Story that many of

1695
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: you have heard perhaps a story I'll have to tell

1696
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: you another time. It's just an important safety tip for

1697
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: all of you. Just because a dog looks decrepit and

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01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 1: super old doesn't mean without knowing the dog or the

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01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: getting the owner's permission, you should try to lift it

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01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: up like a baby near your face. It is a

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01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: bad move, even with a docsent looks like it could

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01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: have a heart attack at any moment. It is not smart.

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01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for to keep you guys safe. Thomas,

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01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you. The Avengers Superhero. A lot of

1705
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: movies are subpar at best. I try to like them.

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01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Shields High, I mean, Thomas,

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01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: to me, the Avenger movie, it's like all this you know,

1708
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: noise and you're whoo and all these guys flying around ohoo,

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01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: and all this stuff that's going on, and yeah, there's

1710
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: not a lot beyond that, you know, it's just it's

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01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: and it's always I feel like the movie always ends

1712
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the same way. There's just a lot of you know,

1713
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: the Earth is gonna end, but then there's all these

1714
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: people flying around or monsters or something, and the Avengers

1715
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: and Hulk is like Hulk strong and like grabs them

1716
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: thing and smash Hulk smash, and then you got Iron

1717
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Man who's shooting ray guns out of his hands, out

1718
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: of his out of his you know wherever. Julian, Beverly

1719
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Hills Cop, you are correct, not a bad impression either,

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01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Julian. I think that. I think that Beverly

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01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Hills Cop commissioner impression is one of my one of

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01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: my sleepers, one of my better ones. Wayne Buck love

1723
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 1: the beard. Thank you so much. Wayne. I appreciate it.

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01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, people are very they're very It's interesting because

1725
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I've never been personally subject to this before. They're either

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01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: really into the beard or they're like shave. Now. There's

1727
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 1: not a lot of middle ground from the folks that

1728
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: I know in life. So that's the thing. Oh it's Friday,

1729
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so we've got double roll call. Remember Facebook dot com

1730
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 1: slash buck Sexton. If you want to be a part

1731
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 1: of the roll call action, that is the way to

1732
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: do it. You can just write it on Facebook and

1733
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: I always loving people go I don't know if this

1734
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: is the right place, but I'm gonna write. Trust me,

1735
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 1: if you're writing me a Facebook message at Facebook dot

1736
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 1: com slashbuck Sexton, it's the right place. I believe my

1737
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: friend Rahim Kasam is going to be in for me

1738
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 1: on Monday. I'm taking a couple of days of R

1739
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 1: and R, which I'm very much looking forward to. Hopefully

1740
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: you get some sunshine. But not time for that quite yet.

1741
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 1: We got a little more roll call on the flip side.

1742
01:39:48,040 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Stay with me, seeing Buck, it's time for rollball. It

1743
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: is time for the role call. The best call is

1744
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: the role call. I guess this is the second role call,

1745
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: so maybe I shouldn't be quite as excited, but I

1746
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: get excited. Folks. I like to hear from all of you.

1747
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Harry sent me a link that I cannot read on

1748
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: air because it's a link. Roger Buck, my question should

1749
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: have been more clear the leftist catterwall about student loan

1750
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: debt and how college should be free. How is it

1751
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: fair for some to risk their lives to earn their

1752
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: college education while others do nothing? Shields high. Now, Roger's

1753
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: a very good point, you know. I mean, the GI

1754
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 1: bill is earned. The GI Bill is the American people

1755
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: fulfilling their end of a contract with our brave men

1756
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: and women who serve this country in the military. Right,

1757
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: That's that's an earned thing. That's not a giveaway. That's

1758
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, I give you money, you give me apples. Right,

1759
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: This is a transaction, and if you don't give somebody

1760
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 1: money for their apples, that's not good. We owe this

1761
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: to those who served. That's a different thing than people saying, wow,

1762
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I just think it'd be nice to give free college

1763
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: to folks. Victor Or as hey Buck not familiar with

1764
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the Mormon faith, ay, I recommend going to see the

1765
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Book of Mormon on Broadway. It'll tell you everything you

1766
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: need to know. Plus it's absolutely the funniest thing I've

1767
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: seen since Team America World Police. I'm sure their temples

1768
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: are swell. Still no comparison to European Catholic cathedrals and churches.

1769
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: Shields High. Love you, Victor. Victor, I can tell you

1770
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: I did see the Book of Mormon, and I remember

1771
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: when my former boss and now longtime friend and mister

1772
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: Glenn Beck saw the Book of Mormon, and I remember

1773
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: hearing them talk about it a bit. I thought it

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: was a little profane. I thought it was a little

1775
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: there was a little too much cursing for me. I mean,

1776
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who is proof, but I do think

1777
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: that there there are some limits, and I didn't love

1778
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 1: it as much as a lot of other people. So

1779
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: there is that. Mary writes, I just fell in love

1780
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: with you, Billy, I mean Buck. Oh Mary, look at

1781
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 1: you with your own Beverly Hills Cop quote throwing that

1782
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: my way. I like it, Mary, I wish your show

1783
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: would do a special investigative report on members of Congress

1784
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 1: who owe the i RS tax money and are behind

1785
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: on their payments. Mary. I like that you're coming up

1786
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: with ideas for the show, but I gotta tell you,

1787
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that one specifically is gonna turn

1788
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,879
Speaker 1: out the masses. If you know what I mean, David,

1789
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fall for the banana the tailpipe, Rosewood.

1790
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. Buck, You guys really, I

1791
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of Beverly Hills Cop fans in this audience.

1792
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: Look at that dude, you guys. Uh yeah, there you go.

1793
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: Katie writes, you are a talented analyst and talk show host.

1794
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 1: Please don't sing man who let the dogs out? Oh

1795
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: oh sorry, Katie, I know it's terrible. It's terrible. I

1796
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: should code read myself. Let's see Pablo rights, Buck, it

1797
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: was funny when you said that Biden should do the opposite.

1798
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: An hour prior to that, I just watched the Seinfeld

1799
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: episode the opposite. Biden could run on that premise alone.

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: He could give it a good run. Shield side. Thanks, Pablo.

1801
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if you're talking about foreign policy

1802
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: and you do whatever the opposite is of whatever Joe

1803
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 1: Biden wants you to do, you're gonna be in real

1804
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: good shape. You know, you're you're gonna you're gonna be

1805
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: right a lot more than you're wrong. So yeah, that's

1806
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: an important one. Jonathan writes, When you were at the border,

1807
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: did anyone ever mention the correlation between the surgeon caravan

1808
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: numbers and the surge and the drug a drug epidemic.

1809
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: I read in the Washingtimes the cartels are using the

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01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: caravans as a distraction all the border patrols overwhelmed doing

1811
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: humanitarian work. The cartels sneak through their stuff, an age

1812
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: old military tactic where you offer a diversion while the

1813
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: real job is being done. In fact, to be stupid

1814
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: for the cartels not to do it, Jonathan, the cartels

1815
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 1: one hundred percent are doing that. I know they're doing that.

1816
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Border patrol told me they're doing that. It happens on

1817
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: a regular basis. They know what's happened. There's nothing they

1818
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: can do about it, though. They have to process. If

1819
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: they get three hundred people to turn themselves in at

1820
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 1: once in the border, they have to process. They have

1821
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: to check them for medical issues. They have to take

1822
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: them the hospital if need be. They got to get

1823
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: them food. They can't say, oh, no, we see a

1824
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: truck two miles down, We got to stop and leave

1825
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: you guys alone here. And no, if they leave them alone,

1826
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: guess what then they can just run into the country.

1827
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: So that's not how it works anyway. Thank you so

1828
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 1: much team for joining me here on this fantastic freestyle Friday.

1829
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: I will be talking to you all on Tuesday. Please

1830
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: tell somebody about the show this weekend. Be like, hey,

1831
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: listen to this guy on podcast, Buck Sexton. He's kind

1832
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: of fun sometimes, except when he sings Shield's Eye.