1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Ye Shooters. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Hell no, no, no, loud lady, Welcome to the Nordy 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: be Nice show. I'm your host, Rubshooter. And it's Friday, 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: which means normally means that our dear friend Corey Andrew 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: is with us. And yes, today's a good day because 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: he he's here. We missed you for a minute, Corey. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh it's so good to be back. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: Rob gosh, but two weeks, I think now it's been 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: two weeks, but here I am weeks. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Thanks you my friends. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: What have you been up to? 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Anything exciting? 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Well, you know what. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: It is the holiday times, so things are always hectic. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: But I did go to a wedding celebration last week 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 3: last weekend, and I think I texted you and said, 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: I sat next to this woman randomly named Stacy Bosco, 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: who happens to be a thirty year Hollywood gossip writer 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: from Los Angeles, which is weird because I was in 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Delaware the whole which is weird. And she used to 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 3: work with the legendary Marilyn Beck that's right, famous gossip 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: comes and she knew who you were, and we just 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: thought it was so random and fun that we sat next. 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: To each other Oh, it's lovely. 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Was she nice about she was so? 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally complimentary. 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it could go either way. I'm normally nice, 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: but sometimes you get a little bit competitive with people 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: who do what you do. I try to be the 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: opposite of that. I try to have a really good 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: sense of the history of gossip. There Cindy Adams, the 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: want to Winchells, all the great lines Smith, Yeah, gosh, 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: legendary names, and Marilyn is certainly up there with them. 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: So I'm so happy when these worlds connect and leve 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: leve alone, respect your history. Everybody. Yes, whatever business you're in, 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: have a Google today and see who came before you, 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: and I promise you it's really really interesting. I did, 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: like I thought, I was just going to just read 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: a few articles. Now, did a really deep dive into 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: the world of OSIP and how it started, and I 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: found some of these names and these characters, and I'm 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: glad that I did. Okay, let's jump into the show. 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time, big, 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: big story. At the top of the show, Prince Harry 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: has shut down rumors that him and Megan Markle are 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: getting divorced. So Harry was in New York, and he 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: addressed the speculation about his marriage and the trouble in 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: the marriage as the couple have attended separate events recently. 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: So speaking with The New York Times, the New York 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: Times had the hutspur. I'm glad they did to ask 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: this because The New York Times ten years ago would 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: never have asked this. They just wouldn't get into this. 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: It's news, It's what we're talking about. It's sort of 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: like something I've been battling my entire career, the snob value. 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: What are we allowed to say? Why are we not 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: if we ask you a personal question? Is that cheeky? However, 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: personal news is still news, as Liz Smith used to say, 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: we quoted we dropped Liz's name at the top of 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: the show by Smith said the following, and it's true. 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: Gossip is news running ahead of itself in a red dress. 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: That's what it is. Gossip is sexy news. It's news 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: in a red dress. It's news running. And I also 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: love the following expression, today's gossip is tomorrow's news. And 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: so the New York Times they asked Harry about this. 66 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. If Harry and Megan god Forbid broke up. 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: The Times would cover that. It's a huge, huge story. 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: When Diana and Charles got divorced, the Times covered that, 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: And so they don't like to ask until it's official, 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: but they've seen clearly had a bit of a change there. 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: So they asked Harry how's it going, And they asked him, 72 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: is this actually a good thing, all the speculation, because 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: it just proves that people are fascinated with you and 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: your wife, And he said, it's definitely not a good thing. 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: And then he made a joke. He said, apparently we've 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: bought or moved between ten and twelve times since we 77 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: got together. And he said, and apparently we've had maybe 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: ten to twelve divorces as well. Now the crowd laughed 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: a little bit. Harry giggled a little bit, but he 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: did say quite seriously that he feels sorry for the 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: internet trolls. He said, these people keep hoping that you 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: will fall, and when you don't, he said, I genuinely 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: feel sorry for him. So a couple of things here. 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: I do think addressing a topic that can be awkward 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: with humor is always good in life. It doesn't matter 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: what that topic is. And I do believe too, there 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: is something about people, not just on the internet maybe 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: unfortunately in your life, who want you to fail. 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: There, Corey, Yeah, the same people who build you up 90 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: very often too, they're also waiting for the fall. There's 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: a very strange sort of phenomenon with human beings. 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: I think they. 93 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Love to build you up and then they cannot wait 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: until you fall down. 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: Sometimes when it comes to celebrity gossip and stories like this, 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: especially when you talk to certain brands, like they had 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: a rumor, but nine times out of ten when it 99 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: came down to it, there was some truth to that. 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Like some you know, sometimes these rumors are planted. 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: And sometimes they're actually real stories that just have that 102 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: surface yet and some of us are ahead of them, 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: and maybe New York Times is maybe onto something. 104 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: But I think the thing about this, though. 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: Is Meghan and Harry are a brand together, and so 106 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: when you see them separately more than once or twice, 107 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: you start to ask. But in real life, husbands and 108 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: wives do things separately, so it's not a big deal really, all. 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Right, right right, It's like Ben and jerrys are a 110 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: brand together. We know them together, we know Harry and Meghan, 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: and they are trying to separate those brands. It didn't work. 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: If you have a company and it doesn't work, then 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: you change, you make an adjustment, you make a correction, right, 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: And so both of them have realized that the Sussex 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: brand together it's not as powerful, it's not as strong 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: as they wanted it to be, really hasn't been that 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: great a success. So they're getting advice and they probably 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: agree with this themselves, that their brands of Harry and 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: Meghan separately would be stronger, would get more attention, would 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: generate more money, would generate more power, and so I 121 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: think that's the route they're going down. However, after a 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: couple of years of constantly pushing the brand of being 123 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: a couple to suddenly change direction, that's where the questions 124 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: pop up. And let's be honest, it's really difficult moving countries, 125 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: leaving everybody you know for one person. So I'm sure 126 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: there's stress there in the marriage. My sources tell me, 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: like every marriage, there's ups and downs. There's days that 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: are very difficult. Harry has been very honest about his 129 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: mental health struggles. That is not easy. Meghan has been 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: a great help in that department. Plus they have two kids, 131 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: which is never, never easy, and so I think there 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: are struggles there. Nobody's going to pretend that this is 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: a perfect princess and prince marriage punintended. This is a 134 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: real marriage. They're together, they struggle. Harry really really does struggle. 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: He misses his family, and so add all this together, 136 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: put it all into the mixing part, and obviously you 137 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: have a very difficult situation. Yes, I'm told they're working 138 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: really hard to make this marriage work, and now they're 139 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: trying to figure out the business. Too often couples that 140 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: are in business together the marriage suffers. 141 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Problem. 142 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too much, isn't it. So I think actually 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: them doing their own thing business, not wise, not personally wise, 144 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: but business wise is probably a good idea, which brings 145 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: us to our pole question of the day. Prince Harry 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: is shutting down the rumors that him and Megan are 147 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: getting divorced. A question is quite simple. Is it better 148 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: to address rumors or just ignore them? I could go 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: either way on this. Sometimes if you address them, oh 150 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: you add fuel to the fire. Sometimes if you ignore them, 151 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: then they're just gonna keep going on. So what do 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: you think here? Do you address rumors? Is it better 153 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: to address rumors or is it better to ignore them? 154 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Go vert on a page at Naughty Nice Rob or 155 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: a Facebook page which is Naughty Gossip, and be sure 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: to check back on Monday to hear your results. Corey Love, 157 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna like this story. 158 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: What do you work it on? I do? First of all, 159 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I love Bob Mackie. 160 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Let's just talk about the fact that the legendary designer, 161 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, he has this whole like new book out 162 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: and there's like a documentary and stuff, and so he's 163 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: kind of like doing like a lot of touring and 164 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: book signing. But the legendary designer, Bob Mackie, he's known 165 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: for creating jaw dropping looks. 166 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: For the biggest names in Hollywood. 167 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: Now it's Cher is the one who comes to mind, 168 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: namely because he sort of like brought her back to 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: pop culture success in nineteen eighty nine when he did 170 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: that infamous like spandex catsuit from the If I Could 171 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: Turn Back Time video that showed her tattoo on her backside. 172 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: I almost said, I almost said, bum. 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: I've been hanging out with BRIT's too long. Apparently I 174 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: must say on her bum. But the outfit in question 175 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: is a sheer body suit, of course, and had like 176 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: a thin strap that left shares tattooed bottom exposed, and 177 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: it was a big deal. 178 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: When it came out. I remember that as you know 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: that video. 180 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: But now Bob Mackie's looking back and he's calling the 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: look vulgar. That's a quote, and he admits in this 182 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: new documentary that he embarrassed by it today. 183 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Now. 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: He also added that sometimes he would tell Share, hey, 185 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: you know, you can't wear that for this, for example, 186 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: like a certain show or like an award show, and 187 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: she would disappointedly say okay, but she'd really. 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Want to wear it. She want to wear So she 189 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: became known, of. 190 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: Course, and the Oscars were for wild costumes and everything, 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: and she ultimately did sort of become known for her 192 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: acting finally and she stopped all the wild gowns and dresses. 193 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: But this is an iconic look, and I really I 194 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: gotta tell you, I don't like when people go back 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: and they sort of disparage something that really really made 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: them a lot of money, probably a lot of success, 197 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: and then the years later they want to kind of 198 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: disparage it. 199 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: It's not a good look, Bob Mackie. I don't think 200 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: it's a good look for you. 201 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: That's a really clever sentence. It is not a good look. 202 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: I love the video if I could turn back time, 203 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: and it did bring chair back. 204 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: It made her and. 205 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: Pull she it was a super stop, but she'd sort 206 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: of got away a little bit. She wasn't on the 207 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: top ten anymore. This song, this outfit, this video, it's 208 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: a it's iconic. I agree with you, Corey. I don't 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: like it when people look back and try to put 210 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: down their past. Let's be honest, Bob Mackie. You're one 211 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: of the most legendary designers out there, and you're no 212 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: one for these costumes. It wasn't like you were dressing 213 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: Julie Andrews your entire life and then you did one 214 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: with shit like you dressed. I saw what she wore 215 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: for the Oscars, Bob. It wasn't that dissimilar from what 216 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: she wore in the music video. So I don't get 217 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: it one. I just think it makes no sense to me. 218 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: If you don't like this look, then it's impossible basically 219 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: to like any Bob Mackie, because if you look at 220 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: if you look at the outfit. You know immediately it's 221 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: Bob Mackie, which I think is a compliment. This happens 222 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: a lot, doesn't it. When people don't want to talk 223 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: about their pastor they put it down. Madonna did this 224 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: for a long time. Madonna wouldn't sing like a Virgin, 225 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: or she wouldn't sing material Girl or all those songs 226 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: that originally made her a superstar. She looked down and 227 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: nose upon. I remember in the cast of Friends, they 228 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about Friends. When you interviewed Jennifer, 229 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: you couldn't ask about And I was like, oh, sweetie, 230 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: that's the only reason I'm talking to you. I'm right too, 231 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: but I do think this is not a good look. Okay, 232 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: moving along, I think this is a very good look. 233 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: Nicole Ritchie is saying that she gets really real with 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: her kids and they know everything about her. So the 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: former simple lifestyle you remember her on that show with 236 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Paris Hilton. She's now forty three and she's pulling no 237 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: punches when it comes to parenting her teenage kids. She 238 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: has teenagers, Harlow who's seventeen and Sparrow, who is fifteen. 239 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: In a candid interview, she revealed that she's transparent with 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: her children about her wild past, saying that the truth 241 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: is only going to come out eventually. And she said, 242 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: at the moment, they might not know everything by themselves, 243 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: but it's only going to be a manner of time 244 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: when they can start googling me. And she said, I 245 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: did have a wild past. I had fun years. She 246 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: said some of those years were a little bit troublesome too, 247 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: but she said she's come out of it and now 248 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: she can talk about it. What do you think about 249 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: keeping secrets from your kids. 250 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's really doing a wise thing here. 251 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: But it's a balance because I think a lot of 252 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: parents they want to be honest, but they don't want 253 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: to seem like they're condoning the behavior so that the 254 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: child will then go and repeat it. Because a lot 255 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: of times you're hoping your child will know to learn 256 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: from the mistakes that mommy and daddy are sharing, but 257 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: you might also spark curiosity and they want to now 258 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: go and experience it. And let's just face it, when 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: it comes to like the party scene and a lot 260 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: of the stuff that Nicole probably did in Hollywood, it's 261 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: a very dangerous time now because with that whole you know, 262 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: I mean she she used drugs. I mean that was 263 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: let's be honest, that was part of her thing. You know, 264 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: kids got to be really careful today with the right 265 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: of passage of experimentation because we're in a very dangerous 266 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: different time with. 267 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: People doing things to you. 268 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: So I would say it's a scary balance for a 269 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: parent to be honest. 270 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: You want to know. 271 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I'm pretty transparent about my past. 272 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: All though I was never that wild. It's never call 273 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: Richie drugs and dance until six o'clock in the morning, 274 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: going to places I shouldn't go to. We're not part 275 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: of my repertoire. I was quite boring in Edinburgh growing up, 276 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: and so my past word, I think I'm really really 277 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: cool by being transparent. My friends are like, Rob, You've 278 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: got nothing to tell. There's not that much. That's how 279 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: are you a boat talking about your past? 280 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Corey? 281 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, I will just share a little brief, little 282 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: summary there that I in my nineties in New York City. 283 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: They were a bit like Nicole Richie's and I've and 284 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: I literally had to get it together because I had 285 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: to say, this is not what I came to New 286 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: York to do. I came here with a purpose, and 287 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: this is a distraction. So I literally for three years 288 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: was wild in New York City and. 289 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: It was a blast. Were talking about do not look 290 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: back on the past. 291 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: Negatively. I would not change a thing. It brought me 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: forward to where I am today. So you have to 293 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: also embrace your past. But yeah, I have no problem 294 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: talking about it because I like to help people avoid 295 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: my pitfalls of youth. 296 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: So I share. I share. 297 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: You're a good good man, Corey. Okay, quickly, before we 298 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: get a break, Nicholas Shay is talking out about his 299 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: past and specifically something he never talks about, Jessica Simpson, 300 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: saying that divorce left him with scars. What did he 301 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: have to say? 302 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so nick Leche, you know, he had that wonderful 303 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: reality show which I thought was great back in a 304 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: day with he and Jessica. But he's fifty one years 305 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: old and he's shedding light on an emotional toll now 306 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: that his two thousand and six divorce took on him 307 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: and when he divorced Jessica Simpson, and he says that, 308 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: you know he now he's with his new wife, Vanessa Lachae, 309 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: and he's really really happy about that marriage. He says, 310 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: he was previously married. I was divorced, so I understand 311 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: the hurt because he's now he's on the show season 312 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: three of the show called The Ultimatum, and that's where 313 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: he serves as co host alongside his wife Vanessa. Now 314 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: he's emphasizing that the importance of not letting the pass 315 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: to find the future is really really it's a big 316 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: deal for him, and he says, what I always truly 317 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: wanted in my life was to have a beautiful marriage 318 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: and a beautiful family. And if I hadn't retained my 319 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: belief in that, I wouldn't have ever realized the beautiful 320 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: life I have with this woman. 321 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: So he says that. 322 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: Referring to his wife Vanessa, who he married twenty eleven. 323 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: And what I do like about that is he does 324 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: not disparage Jessica. That's very inforate because sometimes people can 325 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: be bitter. 326 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And you were her publicist. 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked for it. I did the divorce statement. Yeah, 328 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: I was working with the two of them when they 329 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: got broke up. I wrote the statement and I had 330 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: to issue it, and so I was with Jessica the 331 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: day that they filed for divorce, Like I was there, Wow, 332 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: and he wanted something different. Nick really did want a 333 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: family and acquieter life, and Jessica didn't. Jessica enjoyed being 334 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson and they just didn't go together. So I 335 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: do agree. I think this is a truthful thing to say. 336 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: There's pains, there's scars from the past, but it's also 337 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: a nice thing to say because he doesn't put her 338 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: down while he is saying it. Okay, we're going to 339 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: take a quick break and we will be right back. 340 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm going 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: to shoot her with our dear friend Corey Andrew. Hey, 342 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: let's get to the polls. Last show, we talked about 343 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: Pete davidson shocking revelation about how much money Saturday Night 344 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: Live cast members mate. He said they make about three 345 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: thousand an episode, which is a lot of money if 346 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: they do a show every week. They only do eighteen 347 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: to twenty two shows a year, so it ends up 348 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: being about fifty to sixty thousand a year. They do 349 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: not earn lots and lots and lots of money. You're 350 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: renting New York can cost that, so it's a really 351 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: difficult thing. My question was do they deserve more to 352 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: have a look? Oh, seventy percent said yes, they do 353 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: deserve more. That show brings in millions and millions and 354 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: millions of dollars and the cast members only get about 355 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: three thousand an episode. Now, some of you are like, well, 356 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: that's only for an hour and a half, two hours 357 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: work on a Saturday night. No, they work all week 358 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: done that show. In fact, the only day they get 359 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: off is Sunday and maybe Monday. Tuesday they are back 360 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: at it. Hey, don't forget to vote on today's Paul. 361 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: Go to our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob or 362 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: our Facebook page which is Naughty Gossip. I'm be sure 363 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: to check back on Monday to hear your results. And 364 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: now I love this. It's time for that nice. 365 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Yes. 366 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, Taylor Swift's her new tour books. It's a tour 367 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: book of the Era's tour is rewriting the record books. 368 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: There's a mouthful there, but exclusively. It's been sold through Target. 369 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: It launched on Black Friday for the price of thirty 370 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: nine nine to nine of hardcover, and it's sold a 371 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: staggering eight hundred and fourteen thousand copies over Thanksgiving weekend, 372 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: making it the biggest publishing launch of twenty twenty four. 373 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: That's also a big deal because people are so in 374 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: the digital space nowadays. You got audio books, they're not 375 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: really the idea of that many hard copy books selling 376 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: is a really big deal. And so she had the 377 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: second largest nonfiction debut in Sircana's history. That's the publishing house, 378 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: and it's just just behind Obama's A Promised Land, which 379 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: sold eight hundred and sixteen thousand copies in its first week. 380 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: So just think about that, like there's Obama and then 381 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: there's Taylor Swift. Like that is like pop culture, like 382 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: the top of the line there as far as representation 383 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: of pop culture. So unlike Obama's memoir, which was widely available, 384 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: Swift's book was only sold through Target, which is even 385 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: more impressive when you think about how. 386 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: Much it's sold. 387 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: And so now at this point, you know, it's all 388 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: really just about promoting how great her tour was, which 389 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: her errors Tour grossed over two hundred million at the 390 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: theaters when that film came out and became the highest 391 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: grossing concert movie in history. So Taylor remains to be 392 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: on fire. 393 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: Fire. 394 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, five five. 395 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: I got a copy of the book to Taylor, thirty 396 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: nine ninety nine. It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny. 397 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: It's a fabulous book. And if you did see her too, 398 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to see the show, you can reminisce. 399 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: She gave me tickets. I didn't have to pay. 400 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you took right or something. You took that. 401 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: And they also got me tickets for my nieces in London. 402 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: I got two double dips. So Taylor, I'm actually quite 403 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: happy to give you thirty nine ninety nine if you 404 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: think about it. I just did the bath, but I 405 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: have a calculator here, and I didn't do it in 406 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: my head. If the book's thirty nine ninety nine and 407 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: she sold eight hundred thousand, and that's thirty two or 408 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: so million, nice work if you can get it. Yeah, okay, 409 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: let's do it. 410 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: Or is the day? 411 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: It's probably me and what is the day? Harry and 412 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: William who had separate tributes for their mommy, Princess Diana 413 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: and her annual awards. So there's an awards in Britain 414 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: that's given it. It's called the Princess Diana Award. It's 415 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: an amazing organization. Harry sent her a video saying his 416 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: mother's belief in the power of the young people to 417 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: drive positive change continues to inspire him. Very nice. William, 418 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: who is in London, he delivered his own tribute. We 419 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what he said, but sources are telling 420 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: me that the focus remained on celebrating the award winners 421 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: and preserving his mom's legacy. I do wish, particularly when 422 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: it comes to their mom, that these two could come together. 423 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: I know it's hard, isn't it. Oh, Diana would not 424 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: break this. Let's end with a murment. Would you get 425 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: rid of the idea that you must please other people? 426 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: You begin to follow your own instincts and then only 427 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: then can you be successful. While you're trying to please 428 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: other people, will never find success. You gotta please yourself 429 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: and then I promise you success will come. Hey, that 430 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: is it for this week. 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