Speaker 1: Episode one, nineteen Frugal Travel with Danielle Dezier. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: so we are super excited to dive into a pretty
Speaker 1: like most of our episodes are evergreen, meaning you can
Speaker 1: listen to them at any time. Um, and this one is.
Speaker 1: But it's spec scifically for travel in this time that
Speaker 1: we're in right now, which is what July. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: kind of season that we're in. But it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it's going away anytime soon, at least not in Florida.
Speaker 1: So it should be relevant for the next five years,
Speaker 1: we'll see. So we have brought in an actually a
Speaker 1: frugal travel expert. Danielle to Zier is from dot card
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Speaker 1: really has a wealth of knowledge and this was such
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Speaker 1: bit more about her. Danielle is a powerhouse. And I
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Speaker 1: of multiple books. Um one is about Iceland, the second
Speaker 1: one is called Affording Travel. She has a new book
Speaker 1: coming out called Traveling with a Full time Job. She
Speaker 1: has a great blog, thought card dot com, and then
Speaker 1: her podcast also is all about getting financially stable to
Speaker 1: a point where you can afford travel and how to
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Speaker 1: do a spa day in your home as a staycation,
Speaker 1: but that's not what this episode is. You're really going
Speaker 1: to learn some unique things um for frugal travel during
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Danielle. How are you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me today, So excited
Speaker 1: to have you on, Stoked about your blog and how
Speaker 1: beautiful and stunning it is, and excited to talk with
Speaker 1: you about how we can rethink travel today. Yes, especially
Speaker 1: in this area, because it would have been really easiest
Speaker 1: for us to just do like a you know, travel
Speaker 1: tips episode, but like this is such a weird time
Speaker 1: for travel, and we you have to like really get creative. Um,
Speaker 1: so we're excited to have you on to tell us
Speaker 1: how we can do that. Yes, this creativity is like
Speaker 1: my middle name. I love just finding you and creative
Speaker 1: ways to do things. So and it's something that I'm
Speaker 1: also still trying to figure out. It's still super fresh,
Speaker 1: and I think all my strategies that I used to
Speaker 1: use before I have to kind of like tweak it
Speaker 1: a bit and just really be conscious that there are
Speaker 1: lots of things that we have to be aware of.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you travel. So travel is something I
Speaker 1: do a lot, both personally and professionally. I get to
Speaker 1: travel with my work, which is awesome. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: something I also just really enjoy. And COVID has really
Speaker 1: taken a toll on me in this department. I feel
Speaker 1: like throughout COVID, I had every week was like a
Speaker 1: new realization. And I think I would have previously thought
Speaker 1: of myself as pretty laid back, pretty low key, pretty
Speaker 1: good with the flow, like throw anything at me, Like
Speaker 1: I got this and COVID happened, and at first I
Speaker 1: was like, I'll be all right, this is fine, Like
Speaker 1: we'll be good. We can handle this. And I realized
Speaker 1: very quickly how high maintenance I am. I need a
Speaker 1: good deal of stimulation, like constantly, I need to be
Speaker 1: happen to go somewhere. I need to be working on
Speaker 1: a project. I need to be productive, I need to
Speaker 1: be purposeful, and specifically with travel, just the wind being
Speaker 1: knocked out of my sales, I really struggled, like I
Speaker 1: just don't want to go. I get it, like I
Speaker 1: get I get it all. I'm just saying personally, like why, yeah,
Speaker 1: it has I've just struggled. So anyhow, I am so
Speaker 1: excited to pick your brain because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: still like raring to go. Yeah, me too. It's it's
Speaker 1: been really hard. I've had to cancel quite a few trips.
Speaker 1: Uh so, but I do have some solutions for you.
Speaker 1: There's been things that I've been doing that I'm having
Speaker 1: a lot of fun locally, so I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: sharing that as well. Awesome, awesome, Yeah, and hopefully we
Speaker 1: can also pick your brain on like how to if
Speaker 1: people do have to cancel their trips, like things that
Speaker 1: they should do. But we will talk about that in
Speaker 1: a bit. So, Danielle, let's start close to home. For
Speaker 1: those who want to be able to take a break
Speaker 1: but can't or don't want to leave the house, what
Speaker 1: would be some recommendations that you have for some frugal staycations. Yes,
Speaker 1: so I would say look at your local neighborhood, look
Speaker 1: at your local town. There are a lot of opportunities
Speaker 1: for you to explore um And I actually was one
Speaker 1: of those people that was really paranoid before, like very
Speaker 1: early on April March April, I was super paranoied. I
Speaker 1: didn't leave the house, I didn't do anything. Even going
Speaker 1: to the grocery store was like the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: I did. However, I made a pack with myself, and
Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to start exploring, like put
Speaker 1: my pinky toe out there. So what I've decided to
Speaker 1: do is every single weekend, I try to do one
Speaker 1: single activity that's close to home, within twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: minutes from my house. And I started off with going hiking.
Speaker 1: So there are lots of hiking trails. I live in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: so I've gone hiking one one time. I've also gone
Speaker 1: to a local beach, but the beach isn't like a
Speaker 1: beach where you like sit down and lay out. It
Speaker 1: was more of like a boardwalk, so I did a
Speaker 1: walk activity. Um, I do a lot of walking and
Speaker 1: running at the park, so I do that on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis as well. These again are all free activities.
Speaker 1: And it's only recently that I've said, okay, let me
Speaker 1: go to a brewery because I like, I really love brewery.
Speaker 1: So I've gone to a brewery. And I also wanted
Speaker 1: to see what are the precautions that these uh you
Speaker 1: know organizations and like all these like outlets are also having.
Speaker 1: So I was able to see and see how I
Speaker 1: feel in the comfort level with that. And then last
Speaker 1: week I went to a sidery as well. So I've
Speaker 1: been slowly gradually like doing one thing a weekend. But
Speaker 1: I think one thing I didn't also want to have
Speaker 1: my summer escaped me at all. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be always stuck inside the house. So with the full
Speaker 1: time job, doing one thing every weekend at least made
Speaker 1: me feel like, Okay, I'm still living a bit even
Speaker 1: though I'm not necessarily traveling very far. I like that
Speaker 1: guideline even of picking something it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: every single day, it doesn't have to be all weekend,
Speaker 1: but just a little something to look forward to. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: especially when you are more stuck at home maybe than
Speaker 1: other people too. To have that hard and fast like
Speaker 1: I'm going to do one thing a week because we
Speaker 1: can get like to an extent, like I feel like
Speaker 1: this has been going on forever. But then also there
Speaker 1: are some weeks that just seemed to fly by because
Speaker 1: they all look the same. So having that activity on
Speaker 1: the schedule, whether it's like outside or even like inside,
Speaker 1: like I saw a lot of articles were saying, like
Speaker 1: have a spa day, and that's I probably would prefer to,
Speaker 1: like walk a run, but uh, having it on the schedule,
Speaker 1: even if it is at home, like not just assuming yeah,
Speaker 1: like I bought this stuff, I'll get to it, but
Speaker 1: like scheduling it in. It's funny. I've seen all these
Speaker 1: like billboards in the past of get outdoors and like
Speaker 1: really advertising come on kids, go with your parents and
Speaker 1: be outside and if you like is now society has shift.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really amazing thing that has come
Speaker 1: out of this crisis experience as a nation, as a
Speaker 1: as as a globe that people are really taking advantage
Speaker 1: of their parks and being outdoors and being a bit
Speaker 1: more active now, I would say that it's really important
Speaker 1: if you do want to spend time outdoors or doing
Speaker 1: an activity, you need to go prepared. So whenever we're
Speaker 1: stepping outside the house, we have extra pairs of latex gloves,
Speaker 1: we have hand sanitizers, we have handwipes, We bring our
Speaker 1: own water bottles with us, our own snacks with us,
Speaker 1: our own mask with us. Like we are self sufficient,
Speaker 1: so if anything happens, like we can take care of
Speaker 1: ourselves as much as possible. And Connecticut has been really
Speaker 1: great because now there's like I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a law, but I think most people are following it
Speaker 1: that when you walk into an establishment you wear a mask.
Speaker 1: And when we actually haven't sat down at a restaurant yet,
Speaker 1: but when I went to the breweries, you have to
Speaker 1: wear a mask any enter the brewery and when you
Speaker 1: sit down you have an option to take it off,
Speaker 1: but the waiter or the bartender will always have their
Speaker 1: mask on, so at least one person is always protected.
Speaker 1: And that's like a hard and fast rule, so that
Speaker 1: I think is very important. And also I would say
Speaker 1: that it's gonna take you longer when I go out.
Speaker 1: I just expect that it might just take me a
Speaker 1: little bit longer because of social distancing, because of a
Speaker 1: little bit of lines or anything like that. So just
Speaker 1: not like if I have to be somewhere on time,
Speaker 1: just plan ahead of that because things might just happen
Speaker 1: and I just have to be a little bit more flexible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great tip. And to be nice, because it's
Speaker 1: good to be nice to people because they were out
Speaker 1: of work for so long. And yeah, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: take longer. Everyone's hyper still so hyper vigilant right now,
Speaker 1: and just like recalculating to this new society, so like
Speaker 1: our stress levels are up and so our capacities are down. Um,
Speaker 1: but if we can be aware of that and and
Speaker 1: be so mindful of being kind to one another, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really helps. And you can't see a smile under
Speaker 1: the mask, Make sure you know that there's a smile
Speaker 1: under the smile with your eyes. That's a thing. I
Speaker 1: think it's a real thing. You could definitely see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. So I'm like sure, like squid, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: know it's just right there. Yes, And then people think
Speaker 1: I'm weird and walk away from me, which they probably
Speaker 1: should do. Yeah, it's so when when I think I
Speaker 1: never really didn't care for hugging, so like that's me
Speaker 1: living my best life. Now I miss a good hug.
Speaker 1: And now I will watch TV and see people hugging
Speaker 1: each other and I'm like, that will never happen again.
Speaker 1: I don't know what a good thing they have. It's
Speaker 1: so funny because like my mom and I live like
Speaker 1: three minutes away by driving from each other, so we
Speaker 1: end up like stumbling on each other, like whenever we
Speaker 1: go to the parks, and I'm just like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you stranger, And then she always tries to hug me
Speaker 1: because it's just a natural instinct of whenever she sees me,
Speaker 1: it's like a natural, you know, natural hugs. I have
Speaker 1: to always like tell her like just since please, I
Speaker 1: love you, But no, I don't know where you've been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that for sure. Um So how about local travel? Um,
Speaker 1: so maybe we want like taking a day trip or something.
Speaker 1: How do you navigate that? Yes, so I would say,
Speaker 1: first look at destinations that I would usually say between
Speaker 1: two and four hours away, and everyone's going to be different,
Speaker 1: Like I want, I'd rather spend less time getting there
Speaker 1: to spend more time while I'm at the destination. So
Speaker 1: I would rather spend two hours driving or three hours driving,
Speaker 1: then spending like literally four or five hours. So I
Speaker 1: think figuring out your how far you want to travel too,
Speaker 1: and then thinking about what are the things that you
Speaker 1: actually enjoy. And this is where travel style is so important.
Speaker 1: Most people kind of just go with the flow. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this destination is popular for this, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: go and do that. But I think during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: it's really thinking about what do I enjoy when I
Speaker 1: like to travel, and then based off of that, let
Speaker 1: me find destinations that cater to that and start mapping
Speaker 1: out mapping out what you want to do at those destinations.
Speaker 1: I think before COVID, we would just kind of show
Speaker 1: up at a place and be like, yeah, everything's open
Speaker 1: to us. However, I found that there's so many places
Speaker 1: now that require reservation twenty four hours ahead of time.
Speaker 1: So if you do want to travel, any travel that
Speaker 1: you do, just make sure that you map out where
Speaker 1: you want to go. Go on their website and see
Speaker 1: if there are any regulations, what are the what are
Speaker 1: the hours of operation, what are the mask requirements, and
Speaker 1: also are the reservations and I've seen actually places require
Speaker 1: to put money down, so if you have to actually
Speaker 1: a deposit now to make sure that you are going
Speaker 1: to go. So these are I just think just really
Speaker 1: doing more research and we have in the past to
Speaker 1: make sure that when you step out the door, you're
Speaker 1: as prepared as possible and you know, as much as possible,
Speaker 1: so you could you know, have a good time and
Speaker 1: not get turned away. Yeah, and this is such a
Speaker 1: great opportunity to do that local travel because sometimes when
Speaker 1: we like we don't want to do the local travel
Speaker 1: when we get the time to travel, and now we
Speaker 1: can't do the traveling we want. So this is like
Speaker 1: a great excuse to find those local destinations. You are
Speaker 1: to find even stuff that might be a couple hours
Speaker 1: away but are great options for social distancing. Like I
Speaker 1: know there's um a drive in movie theater about an
Speaker 1: hour away from us, and so that's something that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do on a weekend. This is an hour away,
Speaker 1: but now it's something that we're checking out. So there's
Speaker 1: even if you kind of just widen your radius a
Speaker 1: bit to see what what is in the area that
Speaker 1: might be a little bit unique it's still kind of
Speaker 1: available to us right now. No, I love that. That's
Speaker 1: that's And I would also say, like make a dream list,
Speaker 1: like I would dream about Italy and Morocco's connect right
Speaker 1: what about fore or Die? But people from other nations
Speaker 1: are so excited about those spots, So if we could
Speaker 1: get excited about our area, yes, yes, So I would say,
Speaker 1: like make a list, a dream list of the places
Speaker 1: that you want to go. So I would love to
Speaker 1: go to Cape Cod so it's on my on my
Speaker 1: list and it's only three hours away from my house,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, Okay, I can do that. I can
Speaker 1: do that. There's also again Rhode Island. So I just
Speaker 1: made a list of like fortified places that would like
Speaker 1: to visit from now until the fall to see if
Speaker 1: it's possible. And again I try not to put too
Speaker 1: much pressure on myself because I again to have to
Speaker 1: also see how things are moving. And I would also
Speaker 1: recommend to look at the tourism boards. That is a
Speaker 1: really great place, tourism boards of destinations to see what
Speaker 1: they're what, what are they facing with or what they're
Speaker 1: dealing with, or what the the alerts that they have
Speaker 1: on their website that will help you make a more
Speaker 1: informed decision to know if right now is a really
Speaker 1: good time. So, for example, I wanted to go to
Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard and I was just looking at the website
Speaker 1: and I just emailed them like, hey, do you think
Speaker 1: it was like in July or June or something like that?
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, is now a good time?
Speaker 1: Do you think? They're like, well, it's phase one we
Speaker 1: just started, and I was like phase one. I had
Speaker 1: to go research what phase one meant, right, So there
Speaker 1: are phases and I think everyone needs to just be aware.
Speaker 1: So using the tourism boards as a resource to see
Speaker 1: what's open would be really helpful before you actually go.
Speaker 1: Sometimes your state opens and then it goes back, it
Speaker 1: goes in phase everything, and then we're go, oh that
Speaker 1: was a mistake. It's we have not flattened the curve yet. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: m Danielle. What's your take maybe on road trips? Do
Speaker 1: you have any advice for safe and affordable road trips?
Speaker 1: Even I do think that road trips are a good option,
Speaker 1: but I would say the caveat is do you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with staying at a hotel right now? Or do
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with staying at a airbnb. So if
Speaker 1: it's a road trip where it's like a day trip,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come come back home, that's one thing. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to have to plan for accommodations, that
Speaker 1: is another thing. Um, I am all forward. I am
Speaker 1: thinking of taking a road trip this summer to go
Speaker 1: to Cape Cod. But again, it's like three hours away,
Speaker 1: so I kind of have I could come home if
Speaker 1: I want to, where I could stay there. But I
Speaker 1: do think that road trips are a really great opportunity
Speaker 1: for you to go out and explore further than you
Speaker 1: can if you just stayed in your in your local area.
Speaker 1: And certainly if you're crossing state borders, that's a whole
Speaker 1: other thing to look into. Weather or not, Like on
Speaker 1: either end, will they cause you to fourteen day quarantine
Speaker 1: either I'm on arrival or a palm return, And maybe
Speaker 1: that's something that would be worth it to somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: if they're just going and they're going to see the
Speaker 1: outdoors and then they're going to come back and they're
Speaker 1: able to kind of do that for fourteen days. But
Speaker 1: definitely know the full scope of what you're getting yourself into. Yes,
Speaker 1: that brings me to a great point. So my fiancee's
Speaker 1: job has a list of states like more than intense
Speaker 1: states that if he goes there, he'll have to do
Speaker 1: a fourteen day unpaid quarantine, so unpaid, and he knows
Speaker 1: that rule. And for me, I don't think I have.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have that rob but maybe we
Speaker 1: should check, Like, just before you go and plan something
Speaker 1: in an out of state, make sure that if your
Speaker 1: job has any stipulations, that you're aware of them and
Speaker 1: the consequences. Um in New York City, I've been hearing that,
Speaker 1: like people are tattletaling on folks, So just to be aware,
Speaker 1: just be aware. I'm not surprised though, but it's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good phone number. Oh my god. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great that's a great point. There are some states
Speaker 1: that your job may say, listen, you'll have to self
Speaker 1: quarantine for X amount of days, and you don't want
Speaker 1: to be that person that doesn't report and then now
Speaker 1: you're in trouble for any reason, especially with social media,
Speaker 1: they can just look you up or something like that.
Speaker 1: So these are all important things to look into before
Speaker 1: again you start spending money and and really planning out
Speaker 1: this elaborate trip, you know, and all of these things.
Speaker 1: Though this this is just an overwhelming season of an
Speaker 1: opportunity to save money. Like, yeah, there's things, there's low
Speaker 1: key things that we can do. We're not doing international travel,
Speaker 1: so okay, then how do we pivot and how do
Speaker 1: we be content with where we're at right now and
Speaker 1: say for when life might look a little bit different,
Speaker 1: or what do we want to be spending that money
Speaker 1: on instead? There are other goals that we can get after.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just like thinking, you know, for myself, like
Speaker 1: what this time has meant that? Yeah, it has definitely
Speaker 1: meant a scale back. There's creativity that we can be implementing,
Speaker 1: but there's also just the reality that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of limitations and so all right, what else can we
Speaker 1: be doing? And how can we have fun at home
Speaker 1: and enjoy like the simpler things in life. Yes, one
Speaker 1: of the things that I've continued on is my travel fund.
Speaker 1: Is I still say from my travel fund every single
Speaker 1: pay period. So I'm looking at it recently, I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I can actually afford a trip to Australia or somewhere
Speaker 1: I like to heat it or something crazy because again
Speaker 1: I haven't been booking cheap flights. I haven't been going
Speaker 1: crazy like I usually do. Uh So, now this money
Speaker 1: has time to just sit and I think, after all
Speaker 1: all this is done, I may have even more options
Speaker 1: because I've been saving for it this whole time, or
Speaker 1: people are exploring even some low cost but more long
Speaker 1: term travel into solutions. I mean, it's almost like what
Speaker 1: we saw during the recession in two thousand eight, where
Speaker 1: people were staying closer to home for different reasons at
Speaker 1: that point. But you're seeing an increase in purchases of
Speaker 1: campers and uh used boats and bicycles and some of
Speaker 1: these more just recreational items that you can find at
Speaker 1: a discount and at a deal, especially if you're buying
Speaker 1: them used, and then that can be something that you
Speaker 1: do every weekend and then next year every weekend in
Speaker 1: the summer, or and even week I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know your life, but yeah, like you could even
Speaker 1: get creative in the way that you vacation. And it
Speaker 1: might not be it might not be plane rides, but
Speaker 1: it could be some boat rides. If you find a
Speaker 1: boat for two or three thousand dollars and chip in
Speaker 1: with friends or family. Yeah, yeah, I mean I I've
Speaker 1: heard that RV lots have been like selling out like
Speaker 1: crazy people. Just I mean, I would love to have
Speaker 1: an RV because again, you can drive, you can you
Speaker 1: can also take your home with you, so you have
Speaker 1: all the things that you need. You'll need to rent
Speaker 1: a hotel or anything like that. So RVs have become
Speaker 1: extremely popular. I know a lot of people are doing
Speaker 1: camping now, something that I have actually never done before.
Speaker 1: But again that is also a low cost, low cost
Speaker 1: option as well, so there are lots of opportunities for
Speaker 1: you to uh. I think the RV is a great
Speaker 1: is a good investment, so it's not only for today,
Speaker 1: but also investing for the long term. And in camping,
Speaker 1: I think is also just like if you can do
Speaker 1: that in a lot of different places around the States. Yeah,
Speaker 1: glamping is so much better. I've never I've never done so.
Speaker 1: I actually everything I tried to do glamping. There was
Speaker 1: a particular term for it. I can't remember it, but
Speaker 1: in the UK you can actually glamp in an old church,
Speaker 1: like a very old and I tried to do it
Speaker 1: but it was too freaky and then we just decided
Speaker 1: not to anymore. It was like it was like it
Speaker 1: was a a very small like stone church and the
Speaker 1: cemetery of like five and then in no way and
Speaker 1: I closed my eyes. Here that's like creepy camping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. Yeah, it was. I was all four,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that my my friends were. So
Speaker 1: we just it's called champing. Yes, that the concept of
Speaker 1: camping in ancient churches. It's yes, and it's champing dot co.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing champing c h A m P.
Speaker 1: I I learned something new, that's my takeaway. We tried.
Speaker 1: It was a little scary, a little too scary. I'm
Speaker 1: processing it. Yeah, So are there any so I had
Speaker 1: a question while you were talking. Is there any like
Speaker 1: sites or resources you go to to like kind of
Speaker 1: find deals when you're looking for things to do, whether
Speaker 1: like on a day trip or road trip or something. Yes.
Speaker 1: So I like to use viator dot com. Vider dot
Speaker 1: com allows you to book tours and book all these
Speaker 1: like excursions on their site. But I use it as
Speaker 1: a way to figure out what are all the things
Speaker 1: to do in that area? And then I tried to
Speaker 1: I am a d I Y traveler, so I just
Speaker 1: d I Y as much as possible. Um so vider
Speaker 1: is a really great resource for you to just see
Speaker 1: what are all the offers there. I also, in terms
Speaker 1: of deals, I really like travelso dot com so travels
Speaker 1: You on every Wednesday, they actually have their top twenty
Speaker 1: deal and they just curate deals for you. And I've
Speaker 1: actually found last year I found a three dollar deal
Speaker 1: to go to China um for ten days. Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was it was a huge, it was a huge,
Speaker 1: it was a great deal. It was a great deal.
Speaker 1: But I think travels You could be a really great
Speaker 1: great place. I also like gate one. Travel gate one
Speaker 1: travel is more of I would say they package things
Speaker 1: together so they have a common dations and airlines together.
Speaker 1: They're often on group yes, yes, exactly group on another
Speaker 1: one as well. Um. I also I like trip Advisor.
Speaker 1: Revisors like very fundamental, like basic, but trip Advisor is
Speaker 1: also really good to see like the top things to
Speaker 1: do with a destination. Uh. The thing that I actually
Speaker 1: use and I don't think most people use it this way,
Speaker 1: but I use Pinterest as a search engine, so when
Speaker 1: I'm looking for things to do in the city, I'll
Speaker 1: just type in free things to do in Chicago and
Speaker 1: then all the pins will come up based on and
Speaker 1: I think Pinterest is more of like a search engine,
Speaker 1: not a social media platform, so that is where I
Speaker 1: usually look for for things to do when activities, Uh,
Speaker 1: using those blogs on Pinterest great tips. Never thought of, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have all of those links in our show notes
Speaker 1: too so that you can click and see them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. And Jolie, actually you took one of those
Speaker 1: group on travel. I brought a gate one travel you
Speaker 1: group on and it was fantastic. I will say you
Speaker 1: were mostly paying. I mean, it was a great deal. However,
Speaker 1: I think there's a part of me that would have
Speaker 1: preferred to have booked my own flights. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I could have gotten it as cheap, but if
Speaker 1: I could have booked my own flights, I could have
Speaker 1: done like the layovers that I wanted to or not
Speaker 1: gotten as like in the middle of the night kind
Speaker 1: of flights. But it was kind of this whole package
Speaker 1: deal whereas Paris and Barcelona and the hotel. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it took a lot of
Speaker 1: the headache out and it was very inexpensive. But some downsides,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't even matter, right, now anywhere still good
Speaker 1: information if we live in our vehicles. Yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: so also that brings me back to the we're not
Speaker 1: traveling for the rest of the year. So what if
Speaker 1: you did book something and now it's canceled or you
Speaker 1: have to cancel it, like you do not cancel. This
Speaker 1: kind of up to you on what. Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 1: What do I do? Yes? Okay, So you have to
Speaker 1: think about how comfortable are you feeling with traveling because
Speaker 1: there are people right now I would call them early
Speaker 1: adopters who are like traveling right now. So there are
Speaker 1: people traveling, but for the majority, I would say, are
Speaker 1: not traveling. I actually was given the option. So we
Speaker 1: were supposed to go to Madrid in May and American
Speaker 1: Airlines called me well before I Before I say that,
Speaker 1: I would say that the first thing I would say,
Speaker 1: when you're booking anything, book it on a credit card.
Speaker 1: Number one. You want the credit card company to be
Speaker 1: able to have your back if anything goes down and
Speaker 1: they're like not wanting to comply, you can just say, hey,
Speaker 1: I think this is like kind of fishy and they'll
Speaker 1: look into it. So I like charging all of my
Speaker 1: big travel expenses on a credit card just in case,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the credit cards have perks like uh I
Speaker 1: would say, like baggage laws or some types of insurance
Speaker 1: as well. Every card is individual, so I just double
Speaker 1: check when you're booking to make sure that what is
Speaker 1: what is the opportunities for you there? Now, in terms
Speaker 1: of my Madrid trip, American Airlines called me in May
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you have two options. You can
Speaker 1: get a full refund. I was like, wow, that's that's
Speaker 1: thank you, that's great, or you can book another flight. However,
Speaker 1: the problem for me was that I had booked these
Speaker 1: tickets to Madrid for two d and fifty dollars a pop,
Speaker 1: so they could not guarantee me that I was gonna
Speaker 1: find another flight for two fifty who knows when. So
Speaker 1: for me, I made a decision just to get their
Speaker 1: full refund because I knew that it's it's really hard
Speaker 1: to find such a great deal to go to Madrid,
Speaker 1: even from New York City. So I decided to get
Speaker 1: the full full refund. Now, the problem again is that
Speaker 1: because it's back on my credit card, I couldn't just say, oh,
Speaker 1: let me get the cash and go shopping now or
Speaker 1: do something fun I had to now act them to
Speaker 1: send me a check, and there was more of like
Speaker 1: back and forth with them. So those are the things
Speaker 1: that I would think about. Number One, making sure that
Speaker 1: whatever card you charge, see if you know, you want
Speaker 1: to make sure that they have your back if there's
Speaker 1: any fraud, night charges or anything like that. Credit cards
Speaker 1: are really good for that. To think about, will you
Speaker 1: find this deal again. If you will find this deal
Speaker 1: again and they can guarantee that, then maybe rebook in
Speaker 1: the future if they can't, just get your money back,
Speaker 1: if that's even a possibility. I know that a lot
Speaker 1: of airlines now are saying that you can cancel no problem,
Speaker 1: like there's no charge of like that two dollar charge
Speaker 1: that they have. So before you book anything, really be
Speaker 1: vigilant in looking at the terms and conditions because a
Speaker 1: lot of times these airline companies they just want to
Speaker 1: take your money now and they're like, we'll worry about
Speaker 1: it later after they have your money in the bank.
Speaker 1: So that's important to think about. Yeah, yeah, better to
Speaker 1: get your money back than try and store points with
Speaker 1: them if possible, because who knows what those points are
Speaker 1: going to be worth. Who knows if you're going to
Speaker 1: book between the time that they expire just and then
Speaker 1: you've got to remember or what airline did I even
Speaker 1: have those points with? So yeah, just get your money back.
Speaker 1: I have a hotel that I'm going to need that
Speaker 1: I booked with points, that I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: get those points back. So I'm antissing, but I know
Speaker 1: that I will book with that hotel line again. Um,
Speaker 1: it's highat They have the best like trend like for points,
Speaker 1: best redemption values, and I know I will book with
Speaker 1: them again, So I will just get the points in
Speaker 1: that case. Um. And and for those who don't do
Speaker 1: the whole credit card thing, it could be really worth
Speaker 1: considering insurance now in the future, now that we see
Speaker 1: how volatile it could be and how quickly things could shift,
Speaker 1: it could be worth springing for, you know a little
Speaker 1: bit more, just to protect and cushion that larger investment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some of the sites that I've been keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on are like the Points Guy. He does a really
Speaker 1: good roundup of just like letting you know travel news
Speaker 1: and things for to be a where of thirty Traveler,
Speaker 1: Premium and thifty Traveler. They also have like great blog
Speaker 1: posts as well to keep you updated with what's going on.
Speaker 1: What airline has this policy? Uh So, just as always,
Speaker 1: like everything we're talking about, it's just really being intention
Speaker 1: and all and knowing, like what you're getting into before
Speaker 1: you commit and buy right now? Mm hmm. Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: know what else? You should know what you're getting yourself
Speaker 1: into before you commit. I but I do know, and
Speaker 1: I always commit the that's right, it's time for the
Speaker 1: best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was
Speaker 1: born and his name is William. Maybe you've paid off
Speaker 1: your mortgage, maybe your car died and you're happy to
Speaker 1: not have to pay that bill anymore. That build Buffalo Bill,
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, It's the bill of the week, Danielle. Every
Speaker 1: week we invite our guests and listeners to share with
Speaker 1: us there our favorite bill, and I know you've been
Speaker 1: thinking about yours, and I can't wait to hear it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I would have to. So my favorite bill that
Speaker 1: I like let go of recently was Adobe Premiere Pro.
Speaker 1: So as a blogger and podcaster myself, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get all these tools and I'm like, I'm gonna use this.
Speaker 1: It is gonna be great. I bought it three years
Speaker 1: ago and just started producing videos. Like yesterday. So I've
Speaker 1: been wasting so much money on tools that I don't
Speaker 1: even use. So that is a bill that I'm happy
Speaker 1: that's gone. However, I just got engaged during quarantine in March.
Speaker 1: March gradulation. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So my
Speaker 1: new bill that I love is saving for our back
Speaker 1: yard wedding. So that is with bill. Uh and it's
Speaker 1: going slow but steady so far amazing. What are you
Speaker 1: getting married? Well, we wanted to do it this summer,
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, forget that, so we're hoping for
Speaker 1: next We're hoping for next summer. But it's just so
Speaker 1: just what happens that I've been doing also home renovations,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, might as well have it in my
Speaker 1: house since I've been doing all these fancy renovations. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to just having a very small, intimate
Speaker 1: new out hosting your own wedding. Oh that way, yes,
Speaker 1: so that you can have a fantastic honeymoon. Have you
Speaker 1: started thinking about that? Yeah? I think we're either doing
Speaker 1: Turks and Cagos or Costa Rica, so one of the two.
Speaker 1: I so hope that's possibility to to Oh gosh, okay,
Speaker 1: we're all just gonna, you know, throw salt over our shoulders. Prayers.
Speaker 1: I'm praying. In the meantime, I have like you know,
Speaker 1: Costa Rica pictures and posters all over here, just giving
Speaker 1: me life. So that's how I'm living, Yes, living my
Speaker 1: travel life right now, scroll on the internet looking for picks. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: well what what good motivation to just kind of like
Speaker 1: stay focused? You do have something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: Either way you're gonna be married. It sounds like that's
Speaker 1: going to be a good thing. Excited. I'm excited. You
Speaker 1: guys should have seen it. It was literally how I
Speaker 1: was questioning it. No, I just like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to make for everybody, but like it's probably like don't
Speaker 1: you're done. So I'm sure it's gonna be amazing. It's
Speaker 1: going to be great for you. I've had friends just like, really, like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna propost you during quarantine in your pajamas in
Speaker 1: your living room? Is that the kind of engagement you want?
Speaker 1: I was like, it was fine, it was actually really
Speaker 1: it was sweet, it was perfect, it was intimate. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally had to have Neil Polisher mover before I
Speaker 1: sent all my friends pictures. So yes, and you were
Speaker 1: already home, so you could Yeah, you could do it.
Speaker 1: My gosh, you could have just painted your one hand
Speaker 1: that quick. Yes. Yes, there's so many sweet things that
Speaker 1: have come out of this time. Like it's not all
Speaker 1: been good and sunshine and roses by any stretch, but
Speaker 1: there has been some kindnesses in silver lining and just
Speaker 1: like sweet things. That was one of them. If you so,
Speaker 1: if you have any sweet bills that you want to
Speaker 1: share with us, please visit Frugal Friends podcast dot com
Speaker 1: slash bill and leave us your bill, especially if that
Speaker 1: bill includes your engagement and your wedding so that Jill
Speaker 1: can maybe be encouraged. Yeah, it's good for more people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more people in love getting married. Great, now it's time
Speaker 1: for the lightning. We just yell at people. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the people and we yell at them. Yes. I
Speaker 1: love the energy. It's yes, it's it's infectious. Great, Greace,
Speaker 1: we definitely have that. You should have been here the
Speaker 1: last time that we did an interview together on somebody
Speaker 1: Else's podcast, and I was just I was out of control.
Speaker 1: We'll stop there. So we wanted to go round table
Speaker 1: style and talk about our travel plans coming up. How
Speaker 1: we've had to alter them due to COVID and like
Speaker 1: what we're doing instead, or to save on them, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So we'll let our guests of honor go first.
Speaker 1: Y's you, Daniel go now? Okay, So I'm in charge
Speaker 1: and I'm the guest of honor because you didn't pick
Speaker 1: up them that a little bit. So my next travel
Speaker 1: plans is to figure out how we're going to get
Speaker 1: to Cape Cod in August. Cape Cod's about three hours
Speaker 1: from home. I'm in charge of the planning process. So
Speaker 1: figure out the hotel and if we're gonna take our
Speaker 1: dog or not. So add Jada into the mix. M hm,
Speaker 1: Jade Jada, what a sweet name. She's the one dog,
Speaker 1: just the one, just one, just one right now, just one?
Speaker 1: Just that you considered getting another dog and naming it
Speaker 1: will I do not want to go into an entanglement.
Speaker 1: That's uh, no entanglement here get a third dog? Yes,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I didn't know what that joke was until
Speaker 1: last night. There is a meet and I didn't get
Speaker 1: it until So if you don't get it, just search,
Speaker 1: just just google it to Google. Yah, Jill, you go, um, gosh,
Speaker 1: what do I talk about? Well? Eric and I are
Speaker 1: moving people have heard about this for like so many episodes. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: that's our next travel plans is to load up all
Speaker 1: of our stuff in our travel trailer. And thankfully we're minimalists,
Speaker 1: so we don't even need to get people to come
Speaker 1: help us and deal with all of that. Uh, and
Speaker 1: like restrictions on how many people we can have helping
Speaker 1: us move, so it'll all go into a travel trailer
Speaker 1: that we have just like a small thing that hooks
Speaker 1: to the back of our one car. Y'all, if you
Speaker 1: have been following this podcast, um, you know that I
Speaker 1: was trying to get Eric and I to go down
Speaker 1: to being like a one one vehicle couple. And we
Speaker 1: did it, didn't We did it. We only got one car.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna last long, but for a time we
Speaker 1: have one car. Yes, that's been Yeah, they're just been
Speaker 1: good for me lately. Yeah. So we're gonna pack everything
Speaker 1: up and we're gonna we're gonna drive down and then
Speaker 1: we're going to be in Florida and that's going to
Speaker 1: be our money is like gutting a kitchen and and
Speaker 1: creating our own airbnb and like that we will rent
Speaker 1: out for some income and we're going to be in
Speaker 1: a vacation spot. So like we're going to our home.
Speaker 1: Our new home is right next to a park that's
Speaker 1: on the water, So I'm hoping to get some kayaks
Speaker 1: and just like really enjoy my new area that I'm
Speaker 1: in and be out on the water. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's going to work out all right for me.
Speaker 1: Right now, you're traveling to a vacase spot that's going
Speaker 1: to be that's a yeah, that would be. The beaches
Speaker 1: might not be open, but yeah, I'm going to make
Speaker 1: the most of exploring my new area because that's going
Speaker 1: to be enjoyable. And Daniel, I will say I read
Speaker 1: your article on things to do in like spring breaking
Speaker 1: in Tampa, which r I p that was written for
Speaker 1: this year. Um, but I was like sorely disappointed that St.
Speaker 1: Petersburg did not make it anywhere in that article. I
Speaker 1: was like, she doesn't even know I'm missing out, missing out,
Speaker 1: You are missing out. Oh God, a beautiful place, and
Speaker 1: I encourage you to visit us. But I will tell
Speaker 1: you that we were there around Uh, this was just
Speaker 1: before the shutdowns happened. Like, um, spring break was in
Speaker 1: Florida just before Florida shut down and Jen and you
Speaker 1: and I tried to go to the beaches, have like
Speaker 1: a nice quiet. We went to this one beach. It
Speaker 1: was pumping. I have not seen the types of bathing
Speaker 1: suits these these people were wearing like I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that it existed. I was like, I'm seeing body
Speaker 1: parts I didn't even know about, Like, what what is happening?
Speaker 1: It was crazy insane. That's why we had many COVID
Speaker 1: I know. And then they shut down because of because
Speaker 1: of how hoppened. Spring break wasn't saying so maybe it's
Speaker 1: good that it wasn't on your list and yet maybe Um,
Speaker 1: so this was the year I wanted to take a cruise. Um,
Speaker 1: well that's not going to happen. Um. So, actually I
Speaker 1: think I don't think we're gonna do anything. I was considering,
Speaker 1: um transferring my conference. Hotel points to an all inclusive
Speaker 1: with Hyatt um, but I think we will probably skip it.
Speaker 1: It's also my husband and I fifth anniversary this year,
Speaker 1: so I kind of want to do something overnight. I
Speaker 1: was going to miss it. I was going to be
Speaker 1: at a conference in California. Um, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: that I will be there anymore. So I might do
Speaker 1: like a frugal road trip somewhere. I have to kind
Speaker 1: of make a dream list and see how, like what
Speaker 1: Travis and ized dreams overlap, which when it comes to travel,
Speaker 1: isn't often that they overlap, but my dreams usually win.
Speaker 1: So I could see you both doing some sort of
Speaker 1: like camping thing. I could see Travis being super into
Speaker 1: that and you tagging along. That's not that's not on
Speaker 1: my dream list, Jill, trying new things. You'll build a muscle.
Speaker 1: I've tried it before. I tried it well pregnant um
Speaker 1: being on the issue, Yeah, that wasn't even the issue. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's for another time. So that yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: kind of how I I still have to make that
Speaker 1: call to see if I can transfer those points, so
Speaker 1: um TVD on how that will go. I'll let everyone know.
Speaker 1: But and if I don't ask me about it in
Speaker 1: the Frugal Friends community, uh so, so yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: think we'll put off and then I'm gonna try. So
Speaker 1: I will say I am an early adopter of travel.
Speaker 1: We did fly in June to Nashville. Um. It was
Speaker 1: everyone had masks on. It seemed very safe. It has
Speaker 1: been a month since returning and I have not had
Speaker 1: um any illness, so knock on wood. I you know,
Speaker 1: I don't get it from walking outside. But um, and
Speaker 1: then we were also going to Disney at the end
Speaker 1: of the month. Um. I followed a lot of Disney
Speaker 1: bloggers and have been just keeping tabs on how social
Speaker 1: distancing is going in the parks. But we had a
Speaker 1: ticket that was supposed to expire in June, but now
Speaker 1: it was good through the end of the year. So actually, no,
Speaker 1: it's good I think through September October. Um, So we
Speaker 1: already have the ticket that we have to use, so
Speaker 1: we're going to use it and see how that goes.
Speaker 1: When did they open back up? Just yeah, so they
Speaker 1: were the last theme park. Yeah, no, they just opened. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were the last theme park to open. And they
Speaker 1: can conveniently opened on the day Florida had over fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand new cases of coronavirus. So that's fun. Um, so
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah. But yeah, enough, that's the thing. Everything
Speaker 1: should things so quickly that it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: like keeping close tabs on everything, making informed decisions. And yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also think that it's like for me and
Speaker 1: my partner, we're thinking like Okay, if things don't change
Speaker 1: next year this time, how are we're gonna feel like?
Speaker 1: Are we going to still feel the same way or
Speaker 1: we're gonna want to do a little bit more venturing.
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be like an ongoing
Speaker 1: conversation to just how things develop and and how far
Speaker 1: we want to go. Um, but Disney was on our list.
Speaker 1: We go to Disney at least once a year. So
Speaker 1: we're very very sad right now, very sad. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to Hollywood Studios to see the Star Wars
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen that yet. So that one opened.
Speaker 1: The Magic Kingdom opened the ninth for pass holders, so
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. Actually, by the time this airs,
Speaker 1: we will have gone, so we'll see. Don't give me
Speaker 1: any one star reviews, yeah, or maybe you haven't gone,
Speaker 1: don't say anything, okay, which anyways, Danielle, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming. Tell tell everyone where they can find
Speaker 1: you and all the amazing things you have going on. Sure,
Speaker 1: so you can find me over at thought card dot com,
Speaker 1: which is my affordable travel and personal finance blog. I
Speaker 1: also have a podcast called the thought Card Podcast. I
Speaker 1: Am at the thought Card on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 1: And I actually just finished writing my third book during
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It is called Traveling with a full time job,
Speaker 1: because that's always fun. And yeah, I just share lots
Speaker 1: of tips and I interviewed tons of other avid travelers
Speaker 1: to share how they manage your time and also still
Speaker 1: find the way you sixcel in their careers. Oh my gosh. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you have your book that's all your your second
Speaker 1: book or yeah, there's the books you already have. Is
Speaker 1: called Affordable Travel Affording Travel. Yes, Supporting Twording Travel is
Speaker 1: my second book, and that share step by step how
Speaker 1: to say for travel making a financial priority in your life.
Speaker 1: And my last book is an some travel guide. So
Speaker 1: I've traveled to Ice some three times. Love it um
Speaker 1: and I share all the tips of how to really
Speaker 1: have an adventurous an affordable chest. So if you're into
Speaker 1: Iceland too, I want to get into it. Yes. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much Danielle for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: And I really hope that everybody checks out your podcast
Speaker 1: uh and your books because you are a fantastic writer
Speaker 1: and you have so much knowledge and wisdom on affordable travel.
Speaker 1: And that's there's not one person listening to that podcast,
Speaker 1: this podcast that doesn't want that wisdom and affordable travels
Speaker 1: and what I mean? Thank you again, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um wow, guys, what a great episode. UM
Speaker 1: really hope you check out everything Danielle has to offer
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Speaker 1: help you pronounce it today, but I don't. Don't. Don't
Speaker 1: look at the latest one even Well, you're a podcaster anything, right,
Speaker 1: and forget about it. It's amazing. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: a scientifically proven thing that you will get hated on
Speaker 1: for your voice, for sure. Yes, definitely, Valley Grad. If
Speaker 1: you haven't, then I'm really impressed. Yeah, you're better than us.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, fun fact Women House twenty podcast so like
Speaker 1: two out of ten are women. So yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: we need more. We need totally need more female podcasters
Speaker 1: out there because I'm sure a higher number of that
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I'm sure the listenership is way higher
Speaker 1: for sure, So we need more of us. But Danielle,
Speaker 1: you've also got something really cool going on that we
Speaker 1: want to make sure we talk about and get on
Speaker 1: the air. Is uh WOC Women of Color podcasting almost
Speaker 1: like association. Can you tell us more about that? Sure?
Speaker 1: So I created Women of Color Podcasters two years ago now,
Speaker 1: and it really started based off of a hashteg on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So the backstories that Spotify had realized that podcasters or
Speaker 1: are women, and they said that women of color hosts
Speaker 1: less than that. So there was not even a number.
Speaker 1: They just said host less than that, which is very
Speaker 1: even bothered to count did so so yeah, So they
Speaker 1: created an opportunity. They were looking for a tennis fire
Speaker 1: and women of Color podcasters. It would fly out to
Speaker 1: New York City and one person to win ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So when I saw this, I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this like this is me. I have an idea. I
Speaker 1: was inspired by Whitney Hanson's Money Nerds podcast. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to have just like Whitney. I just want
Speaker 1: to be just like Whitney. So I applied and that
Speaker 1: day they were supposed to announce it, we heard crickets.
Speaker 1: But I had seen so many women on Twitter talking
Speaker 1: about this opportunity and I wanted to keep in touch
Speaker 1: with them, so I decided to create the Facebook group,
Speaker 1: which now has over three thousand two women from fifty countries,
Speaker 1: which is so exciting and fun. Facts Spotify had eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand applications for that one US opportunity that was found
Speaker 1: through underground blogs. It wasn't even on their main website.
Speaker 1: It was like a friend of a friend told me
Speaker 1: about this and they had eighteen thousand, which still blows
Speaker 1: me away. And that's a number that I aim to
Speaker 1: shoot for. Like eighteen thousand two years ago is what
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to slowly thrive towards. But we've grown
Speaker 1: to include a blog, a job board, we have a
Speaker 1: paid membership as well now and yeah, I think we're
Speaker 1: definitely seen as a staple in the podcasting community. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. So where first off, where can listeners go
Speaker 1: to find more, to find a listing of of like
Speaker 1: all these podcasters. Sure, so we actually don't have a
Speaker 1: directory right now, but what we do have we do
Speaker 1: have a blog that has over sixty articles where you
Speaker 1: can hear from community members. We all of our articles
Speaker 1: are written by our community members. So WC Podcasters dot
Speaker 1: Co will have lots of our voices, lots of our advice,
Speaker 1: lots of our tips. And the directory is definitely in
Speaker 1: the works. It's it's a big lift. It's very I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Do you have any in particular or
Speaker 1: that you would recommend folks checking out? Yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: I have three, and I think for me, I like
Speaker 1: podcasts that like teach you things, and because I'm very
Speaker 1: like entrepreneurial, like I'm trying to be entrepreneurial. I love
Speaker 1: a Freelance Friday podcast by Latasha James, so she talks
Speaker 1: about freelance life, um, and she has her own agency,
Speaker 1: which is really great. I also love School of Ambition
Speaker 1: by D. L. Sharon and she really teaches you how
Speaker 1: to take your coaching side hustle businessess to like six figures,
Speaker 1: which I of course love to hear that. And gotta
Speaker 1: love this. Yes, bare backyard wedding, more backyard wedding. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have as many backyard weddings as a Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And I would say the last one is called The
Speaker 1: Purpose of Money by a Quantiam Scarney, and she's also
Speaker 1: in the Fincan community, and she talks about wealth and
Speaker 1: really leaving a legacy behind for for you and yours.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that'd be great for we have a lot
Speaker 1: of people interested in side hustling, so even if your
Speaker 1: side hustle seems more like a side gig. These these
Speaker 1: like freelancing and these entrepreneurs podcasts are so inspiring and
Speaker 1: they bring on a lot of people that can just
Speaker 1: help you take it to the next level. So woc
Speaker 1: podcasters dot co. Is that the website, the blog the
Speaker 1: blog frosh Okay, we got yes, we did get Yes, sorry,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll have the link in the show notes. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, thanks for hanging out. I we have never
Speaker 1: had a guest on the after Show. I don't think
Speaker 1: we've ever called it the after Show. It's like so
Speaker 1: unofficial and sometimes we don't even have it. But most
Speaker 1: of the yeah, so we're like welcome, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: This is something. Yes,