WEBVTT - S2E11 - Mea Maxima Culpa 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.200 Hey, Shadow fam, this is Katherine McNamara. We love being 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.800 your host for Return to the Shadows, relieving old memories 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.920 and going back to the good old days of Shadow Hunters. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.760 So we're excited to share a very special announcement. We 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.680 are teaming up with Moment for an exciting live episode 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.680 of the podcast. It will have all of your favorite things, BTS, stories, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.520 place lore, and of course domin me. Nothing mundane, we promise, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.279 And the best part is there will be a live 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.840 chat for some Q and a, some games and more 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.880 by the Angel We can't wait. Tickets are on sale 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.479 now at moment dot co slash. Return to the Shadows 0:00:34.720 --> 0:01:11.880 See you March twenty second, and once again, it's been 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.440 ever so long, ever so long, twenty four hours. Not 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:22.120 even what am I looking for? Oh shadow? You know 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.160 it's a show about a girl and a bunch of 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.559 other shadow hunters. And no it wasn't. When I watched 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.440 it. It It was about really love this young shadow. On 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.200 two is life destroyed by this irritating redhead? Came out? 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.600 Oh yeah, well that happens sometimes. It happens maya Maximum Coppa, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.640 which happens to be the name of this episode. Very good, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.640 so here we are at the second half of This 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.119 is our our mid season premiere of season two, Season 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.760 two episode eleven, Maya Maximum copa air date originally June 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.880 Fish Fish Fish. I didn't even know that was a thing. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.360 Oh yeah, I didn't know. June fifth, twenty seventeen. Written 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:04.800 by Michael Yay, director Matthew Hastings. Also Yea starring Katain McNamara, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.240 Dominic Show, What, Albert Rosetti, math Aarabia Isamastafa and Harry 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:13.040 Sham Junior guest starring Alan Ben Sprang, Alexandra Ordolus, Alicia Wainwright, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.920 Brett Donahue, David Castro, Mimi Cusic, I think, Will Tutor, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.440 Noah Dalton, Danby, Ryan Graham, Chris George, and Jacob Skiba. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.200 Oh my goodness, we are getting into the nitty gritty. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.959 Oh a favorite people ever on the show. Yeah. This 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.200 is a new a whole new phase, the whole new world. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.960 This is Alex's first episode. Yes, it's Alex's first episode. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:41.320 It's Will's first episode's first episode. No, it's maybe second. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:46.520 we met me she could when she tried Isabelle. Yeah, um, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:51.880 and we it's also who is Bretnis episode. No it 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.880 was Noah's first episode. I think yea, it was Noah's 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.720 first episode. Maybe. Well, let me tell you what we're 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.160 in for shadow Hunts and down World is a picking 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.600 up the pieces off of Valentine's attack on the Institute. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.240 Down World and numbers are down, and the different packs 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.440 and clans debate on what they must do to survive. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.720 With Valentine and Custody the Institute on high alert, but 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.400 Jas carries the heaviest burden of all due to his 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.280 part in igniting the Soul Sword and the secrets he 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.200 is keeping from Clary but Jason, the shadow Hunters don't 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.280 have much time to mourn as the Greater Demon is 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.040 loose in Manhattan. Meanwhile, Izzie struggles on the road to 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.919 recovery when she encounters Sebastian, a mysterious yet very handsome stranger. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.880 As Simon tries to understand his new daylight to status Wow, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.560 lots to unpack, lots to unpack, dive on in this 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.000 was This episode starts with one of my favorite five 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.320 scenes we ever did. I was just about to say 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.800 that I loved this fight scene with you and Matt. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.440 It was one of my favorite plan and Matt's such 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.400 a like athlete. Although so we did introduce the twin 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.800 hatchets in this episode, which was very good fun. Guy, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.760 I got to spread my wings with some different some 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.640 different martial arts with these in potution. But they have these. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.040 So there's the blade on this side, like on the 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.040 front side, the semicircle, the half moon blade, and then 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.080 there's a pointed section on the back of it, and 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.120 there's one cross block in this an overhead. So he 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.440 comes overhead and I crossed the two axes behind each 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.000 other and block the thing coming in. And every time 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.120 the little back blades would just jab into my knuckles 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.400 and just break the skin, which we didn't really think of, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.480 but we very rarely did that block again, I can 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.160 tell you that much. Was there ever a fecting where 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.440 you didn't get hurt on the show? Done? No? Not many. No. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.240 Look at the sort, did you see There's a tight shot, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.320 a tight profile of your face where the blade is 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.240 in as well, and you can see how beat up 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.480 the blade of the sort is hard. Oh yeah, and 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.400 then see it once again another fight where you drop 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.040 the blades and then you just start going at it. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.479 Get to go hand to hand which is good fun. Again, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.600 this was another level of martial arts the Matt and 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.360 I weren't particularly familiar with. But this was really good fun. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.400 It was a fun thing to to play around with. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.640 You actually see the backs of my knuckles at one point, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.440 like like the penultimate move, you can see the backs 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.800 of my knuckles are still bleeding. But this is an 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.360 interesting one where there's a motion where my right leg 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.320 is behind his head and I slam his face into 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.920 the ground. Yeah, and there's some real trust that has 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.839 to go into that one. We talk about trust all 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.600 the time, but that's a concrete floor, Like you get 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.760 it wrong and you're gonna you're gonna split something open. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.760 So to time that correctly. So there's enough pressure that 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.880 looks like it's he's being forced to the ground, but 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.360 also for him to restrain himself and do it. M Yeah, man, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.600 I worked well together. This was good fun. Yeah. It's 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.480 another one of those things where I remember how dark 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.600 alexcited Darren was about this fight too, and just the 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.200 way that he was building. You know, as the scene 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.160 built and as the sort of debate progressed between the 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.160 two of you, so did the fight. And it's about 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.800 that you know, constant getting getting a fist above the other, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.320 very brotherly. Yeah, it's great, it's great fun. And then 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.920 we progressed to this. So this was another scene that 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.160 we did on our three sixty blue screen. Well, this 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.560 was the I guess two hundred and seventy degree one 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.040 or not. It wasn't quite Yeah, it wasn't quite. It 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.920 was it was a little little what do you call that, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.640 like a promenade stage. Yeah, sure, I don't called that. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.640 I don't know, but lovely little park in Brooklyn. This 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.799 was one of the only there are very few scenes 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.360 in this show where we get to have Oh, it's 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.360 just just a nice, normal date. It's just a nice, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.800 normal afternoon. And they always felt so odd because it 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.520 felt like a different show almost, because some people just 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.400 on a park bench having a conversation. There's a hot 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.320 dog vendor, and it's just it just feels like, you know, 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.080 normal mundane life. There's a kid in the back with 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.920 balloons like he's having a good time. Everyone's good. Yeah, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.000 and as always, you know, when a relationship is in 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.640 a good place, we are going to go south. It 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.560 is nice, though, to see Simon and Clary just be 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.280 able to enjoy a moment of peace. We haven't seen 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.440 that since the pilot. Really Yeah, and not even all 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.760 the way through the pilot, just like bits of the pilot, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.400 this hug we finally got in. This was fun. We 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.080 were toying with this idea for like ages, Alberta and 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.480 I and I think we tried to get this hug 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.760 in like ten different times, and they finally let us 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.480 do the fake hug thing, which was really good. It 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:30.200 was a really cute, cute moment. Yeah. Again, it's one 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.040 of those things where you find those little moments of 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.320 physicality that that only happened after working together for years. Oh, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.240 this is the first time we get to see the 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.920 catacombs jail cell mhmm. Yeah. They built this for this 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.120 for this scene, and then we kept them for quite 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.760 some time. Yeah, this is a cool scene watching Mimi 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.000 and Alan like Canadian like acting royalty go off for 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.280 each other's like a master class of ability. Like these 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.160 guys are so good with each other. It's unreal when 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.280 I'm such huge bands of both of them, you know, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.520 pre the show, just from watching their passwork and it's 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.720 it was always my favorite thing to get to just 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.080 sit on set and watch them do their thing. Another 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.240 fun fact about this set that viewers may or may 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.000 not know is that all of the tombs and all 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.960 of the names on the catacombs are our crew. So 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.120 the big ones on the floor are our directors of 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.320 photography and our producers and things like this, and then 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.880 all of the catacombs is the hair and nake up department, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.040 in the grips, in our ad department, and our you know, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.480 our entire crew all got their names somewhere in the catacombs. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.720 If you look closely, might fail to catch it. In fact, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.240 there were a couple of cool little set pieces here, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.520 So one an interesting thing. Someone decided at some point 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.720 down the line that the floors not in this episode 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.199 because the floors are dry, but in the at some 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.120 point during using this they decided that the floors looked 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.600 better wet than they did dry. Yeah, which was a nightmare. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.920 I think Will has a fight scene, like a pretty 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.280 intense fight scene the Darren doubled him for in this, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.160 and the floors are wet like it's a nightmare, and 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.480 it's a slick floor anyway, I definitely had a couple 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.000 where I had to run on it. And you guys 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.160 are in heels the whole time like it was. It 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.959 was actually really hard work. And then the glass, the 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.000 glass window to the jail cell was actually three or 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.559 four pieces of glass that sat into each other and 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.880 they would angle it depending on where the shot needed 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:27.079 to avoid the season one fiasco of the reflections feelings, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.920 so they would they would tilt them, but we were 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.440 forbade from touching it so to leave fingerprints, to avoid 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.840 leaving fingerprints on the glass, because there was constantly someone 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.120 there with windex and a rag, just like making sure 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.000 they were spotless. Yeah, because every time somebody would walk 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.719 by or Lenardo don't have to step out of the 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.280 way that those fingerprints show up so much, or anytime 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.280 it would get angled just the slightest dish, they'd have 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.319 to come in and completely reset the whole thing. But 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.400 on the note of the floors, I am. You know 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.880 they when you're walking through a set, shoes are allowed, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.679 and sets are often not. The floors are kind of 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.600 hollow because they're built up, so you make a lot 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.120 of noise when you walk sometimes, so they'll put foam 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.480 on the bottom of your shoes to dampen the sound 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.040 a bit for so you don't have to readr the 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.560 entire scene of dialogue. So often I would have old 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.839 patches of foam on the bottoms of my boots, and 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.679 then when I would come into this set that had 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.320 the wet floor, it would just become ice skates. It's like, yeah, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.160 and number of times I fell down just trying to 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.960 walk across the floor. It was absolutely insane. But let's 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.000 see what these folks are. These kind folks are talking 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.439 about as we we just I love that we just 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.199 stroll in in the middle of an interrogation. Yeah, you know, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.199 he's mid getting tortured and we're like, hey, how's it going? Like, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.360 oh hey, dad, what's up? How's it going? I do 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.920 love how much they use the reflections though, and when 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.120 they do when they have this set just using our 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.640 reflections there with me, me and Allen. It's just this 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.200 is torture scene, so I guess it's like a torture run. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.520 But it's showing him, like it's called is he causing 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.440 him a lot of physical pain, But it's also showing 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.560 him a past, like a past that he's that hurts him. Yeah. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.880 The assumption here, of course, being that it's me. It's 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.640 a younger version of me, although no, we know that 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.800 that's not the case. Now, so who is this kid 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.040 supposed to be? No, he did still raise me, Yeah 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.800 he didn't. It's not his son. So fucking making sense now. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.079 When she does the ruin, he has flashes to a 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.160 little blond kid. No, that's not you, that's not me. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.319 That one's not you, because that is what that is 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.760 is that's him sending Jonathan to eat him. No. I 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.640 know that the audience doesn't know that now, but I 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.960 think it's supposed to be portrayed that that is potentially 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.840 me because we haven't been introduced to the person who 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:49.160 that is, right, Yes, potentially you in this moment, in 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:54.240 this moment, yes, And then Mimi's pissed. Yeah, it's like, no, sorry, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.559 we're not doing you how to do your job. Just sorry. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.679 I lost the sword. I didn't know what did it 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.559 do to it. It damaged it, but we don't know 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.199 what it did. It just deactivated it. You know, I 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.599 have a feeling it just it's sort of breaking it 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.880 enough not to destroy it, but enough to so it 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.360 doesn't work. You know, it disconnected the second maybe as 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.679 it were, I'm putting some kind of buffer on the 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:21.679 magic as Reel. Is that as Reel? Yeah, Asaizel, that's it. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.200 So something funny about this that I don't know if 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.640 you remember Asazel wasn't his original name in the script. No, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.679 originally his name was Originally it was Reman. And there 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.840 came a point during the beginning of this episode where 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.200 I went, does anyone realize that we have that we've 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.320 set up this guy as rem and the Demon from Edom? Yeah? 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.880 Is that on purpose? So do we want to change that? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.880 Because I knew at some point during the episode, I'm like, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.600 somebody's going to have to say rem and the Demon 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:48.959 from Edom, and then that's going to be what the 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.880 episode's about is. Yeah, it's it's less badass for sure. Yeah, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.040 this wonderful like stillness to the way he was so brutal, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.360 which I think is fantastic. Yeah. Again, there's so many 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.800 incredible actors in Toronto that we got to use. They 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.520 just brought them in and they just completely owned the 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.040 moments that they had and just fully committed to what 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.360 it is that they were doing while drinking a whiskey. Man, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.200 while drinking a whiskey, I don't think we ever went 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.559 to this bar like as people like, why didn't we 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.640 ever go to this bar? I did once with them, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.839 with Isaiah and some folks. Yeah, during the when he 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.920 was shooting it. We went there with a bunch of 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.600 folks and I think you guys met us for ping 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.719 pong after Got It, Got It, Got It? Yeah, Oh, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.360 dear is he's in withdrawals? Yeah, this is the episode 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.680 where they put the camera on her or no, they 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.280 give her the rega. I can't remember. She does such 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.920 a good job. Oh yeah, she's in it right now. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.960 She just sat up into it. Can Shadow Hunters get 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.880 the flu? Though? Because Alec, you know, Alec covered for 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.439 her by saying that she has the flu. Yeah, I 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.720 mean you would think that the Nurazi would probably take 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.520 care of it, although I'm sure there's sort of down 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.280 world disease that's equally terrible. That's true. I mean, you know, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.320 with anything that we've seen in the last three years, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:14.200 diseases tall the time. Yeah, yeah, that was clever. There's 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.160 we should have talked to John about this. That was 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.839 a clever transition through the doors of the Jade Wolf 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.920 because that is set on the inside, which actually is 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.400 almost directly behind that door that the camera panned into. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.760 But the jade wolf set was oriented this way and 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.360 the door was oriented this way, so there's no way 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.240 you could have done that. So they matched the two 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.280 shots together so it looked like you went through the door, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.360 which was very clever. But they were they were oriented, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.600 they were perpendicular to each other, so you couldn't have 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.360 done it any other way. Tricks of the trade. M M. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.400 I feel like the kitchens knew as well. We've had 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.840 the kitchen a couple of times because I had a 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.640 conversation in there about clear Fusum a few episodes ago. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.640 But I do love that they've just hired a kitchen staff. Yeah, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.360 just it's not a function restaurant, but it's a kitchen 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.120 staff that just like just feed the food for the 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.440 wear wolves all day. I wonder if they know that 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 they were wolves? Yeah, do you think they know? They 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:15.200 might be like like um werewolf wannabes, like like familiars 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.320 for vampires, you know what I mean. Maybe if they 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.680 make good duck pancakes they get turned into a werewolf. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:27.440 They're just wearwolf grouppies. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh the man. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.680 There's an uprising within the down world. So Russell, played 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.480 by the lovely Noah. This is this always got me. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:39.480 Noah was the sweetest, most just such a zen softly dude, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.520 and he plays this absolutely aggro. But no, he's just 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.040 he's like a big teddy bear. No, he's big old softy. Yeah. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.680 This crime scene is fun because another little like in 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.240 the behind the scenes thing. I don't know if it's 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.480 in the episode or not. When Ali comes in, I 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.840 think it's Matt and I together step out of her 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.880 way because she technically can't see us. Yeah, so if 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.800 she physically hit us, then that would look weird. So 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.120 we we just take a step back like it's nothing, 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.920 keep doing our job. But it was. It was a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.640 fun like addition to be able to sort of flourish 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.360 these parts of the world that makes sense to us, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.080 you know. Yeah, well, and yeah, you guys just move 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.040 around her. I feel like there was no body there either, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.320 because the body was blamored as well, not on the floor, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.600 but the rest of them would have been there because 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.400 there's only two shadow Hunters obviously the rest of them 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.840 are all gone as there's a lot of dead people there. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.360 It is. Yeah, both just kind of do a little lean. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.920 There's the little lean. Yeah, because otherwise the air would 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.159 be disturbed as well, so you know she would feel 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.280 something you feel, somebody moved by you. Oh, here we go, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.040 as well as trying to put herself together. You can 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.000 do a baby girl. Where does she go? Where is she? 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.199 She's in her to see Raphael? Yeah, she's in her 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.440 room right, hiding out and then she goes to see Raphael. Yeah, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.400 trying to get another six. Girl, you were almost you're 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.879 going through withdrawals. Just just push through, man, Yeah, she 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.760 needs to push through. But then the reality is like 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.480 the door should have been locked or something like. It's 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.159 not a nice way of doing it, but like you 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.400 do have to I think sweat it out, like based 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.679 on my very brief medical knowledge of how this works, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.159 she does. Ah, she's so like entrancing in this. Like 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.640 I think it's always so interesting to see the powerful 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:53.000 characters fall from Grace, or not even from Grace, just 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.840 to see them like fallen broken. Yeah, And Isabelle is 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.359 arguably like our strongest character from the beginning. She's so 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.400 strong willed and she knows what she wants and who 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.159 she is and what she's going after. And see her 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.680 in this state is really something special. And I said 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.399 it a thousand times before. But she does such a 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.440 good job. Yeah, Isabelle so unflappable. And then to see 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.720 just the lengths to which she goes and she's the 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.000 one who always carries herself and has this kind of mask, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.119 and to see that fall, it's really interesting. Oh, I 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.280 forgot she tried to stab In. She tries to. Oh yeah, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.160 look at that. She wouldn't do it. She's too much 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.760 of a good guy. She can't do it. She can't 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.760 do it. She loves him, she loves him. Tragic gas leak, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.040 you know, happens in New York. It makes people's brain explode. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.200 Can you imagine if that in New York would be 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:45.880 like the biggest the biggest city disaster, like internally within 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.600 the city since like the blackouts exactly? Oh man, See, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.040 we so rarely get to see this um the projections 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.600 up out of the table, Yeah, big war table. You 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.840 never get to see any of these other greater demons. Nope, 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.800 just a great job by the art department. Someone drew 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.960 these awesome greater demons and that's all we see of them, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.640 although one of them I think was like the worm 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.120 thing that we see in season three. Oh, that's true. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.760 You're right, I would really love to. I've already lost count. 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.320 But the number of times that somebody references me as 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.119 your sister in front of you and you don't say 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.040 anything in this episode because we're just having a conversation. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.640 I'm like, hey, listen, let's talk. I know something's off. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.440 I'm your sister, and you're like, hm, I go by, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.760 I'm gonna go talk to these guys over here? Is 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.880 this is Azel again? This is isabel No, it's Isabelle 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:45.919 and Sebastian of the water. Only will Tutor here we go? Oh, Izzie, 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:51.240 shouldn't it be the Cadillac in the stem she's outside 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:55.800 like a grutty vampire. Then okay, hey, Azazel, she's not. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.560 She's not the shadow hunter you want. This poor cyclist 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.680 is about to not do very well. The cyclist and 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.959 the chef, the well meaning cyclist and the chef who 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.520 are popping out just to save the day. Nah, and 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.880 a pedestrian behind the cyclist. Oh man, all three of them. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:14.560 But here he comes to save the fricking day. Don't don't, don't, don't, 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:20.439 don't don't nice? What does he turn into? Is that moths? Uh? 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.800 I think it was meant to be like maggots or 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:27.080 moths or you know, some kind of way to go. 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.720 Who are you? Yeah it is Sebastian had a boy. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.359 My name is Sebastian. Yeah, I had a boy. Yeah. 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.960 Who does Maureen come back into the show? She just 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:43.080 got referenced. Yeah. I don't think she ever comes back. Honestly, 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.080 she was on another job, so she was. But in 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.560 the books, Maureen actually comes back, and it's a version 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.800 of the Heidi character because she she tries to find Simon, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.440 gets obsessed, gets turned into a vampire, and becomes this 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:01.359 like creepy vampire child kind of um towards the end 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.639 of the books. Who kidnapped Simon and such? Later on? 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.040 But I don't think we ever get to see her again. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.760 He almost slips up here. Simon. Come on, pal, you've 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.119 got to be better than this. You can't just go 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.159 to the pub in the daylight when you're trying to 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.440 keep this a secret. Come on, man. Oh, he does 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.040 just give away the fum. He just didn't say it 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:26.359 was Jason. I'll bless his heart. He kept Jase's secret. See, 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.640 good guy. Jason knows he's a good guy deep down, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.440 deep deep, deep down. Oh yeah, and see it's it's 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.440 Maya that goes hey more to the from one down 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.159 world or to another. Probably don't yeh. Don't let the 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.000 world know that you've got the golden ticket, literally, because 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.639 then everyone's gonna, you know, start drinking shadow hundred blood. 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.080 M that would be if you think about it, if 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.240 all the vampires found out that if you drink a 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.240 certain kind of shadow hundred blood you can walk in 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:57.280 the daylight, that then it would just be all at war. Yeah, 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.399 seen the vampire there's nothing that would stopped them. Yeah, no, 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.440 to find that one shadow hunter. Yeah, m and then 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.320 they just keep me alive with my blood flying for 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:14.679 as long as possible. Oh that sounds dreadful. Yeah, oh okay, 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.200 So this it's the moths turned into the sand. And 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.560