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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel

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Speaker 1: free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,

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Speaker 1: black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also

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Speaker 1: just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by

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Speaker 1: yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy Bee. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 1: a production of the Black EPEC Podcast Network and IART Radio.

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Speaker 1: You what's up, y'all, and welcome back to Selective Ignorance.

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Speaker 1: But this is not just any episode, Oh no, this

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Speaker 1: is the official reintroduction. I hope you didn't miss me

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Speaker 1: too much at these past couple weeks without an episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm your girl, baby b and some of y'all know me.

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Speaker 1: Some of y'all might learn today and listen. We are

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Speaker 1: officially a part of the Black Effect Network. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: get the applause real quick, preferved because this platform deserves

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Speaker 1: to be amplified. That's right. And if you've been rocking

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Speaker 1: with me, you already know. This is a space where

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Speaker 1: we don't just react to headlines. We respond to the noise,

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Speaker 1: to the outrage, to the performative badness that the Internet

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Speaker 1: the group think. This is where having a different opinion

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Speaker 1: is not only okay, but it's necessary. I believe in

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's right and I got something to

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Speaker 1: say about it. So, whether you agree, disagree, or don't

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Speaker 1: know yet, where you stand welcome. This is selective ignorance,

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Speaker 1: where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations better. Sometimes. Let's

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Speaker 1: get a to it, baby, And for those of you

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Speaker 1: who are new, I am your host Mandy b Podcast

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Speaker 1: extraordin now and an author uh huh, my book No

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Speaker 1: Holds Barred just released, and we're gonna get into what

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Speaker 1: this last week has been. But before I do, I

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Speaker 1: want to introduce you to y'all cannot believe I have

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Speaker 1: men that hold me down? Like, where does that happen

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Speaker 1: in life? It happens right here, all selective ignorance. I

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Speaker 1: am joined by my super producers. I got the Puerto

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Speaker 1: Rican man of the Puerto Rican New Yurekan hisself, Jason Rodouga.

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Speaker 2: Yo yo Joe.

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Speaker 3: I'm also the DEI hire holding it down strong.

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Speaker 1: He is joining us virtually from the NJ. Who calls

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck I still like to

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Speaker 3: That is so, I'm only here for family purposes. All

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Speaker 1: So and then I am here with another podcast, led

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Speaker 1: Jon Did you hear me? Super producer, A king is

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Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody, selective ignorant, shout out to you.

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Speaker 4: And then New York Best time best seller is coming.

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Speaker 4: It's coming soon.

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Speaker 1: Look at not knowing No, goddamn warriors, that's what we do.

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Speaker 4: This is a new thing. It's like driving a new

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Speaker 1: We've never gotten the opportunity because they didn't want two

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Speaker 1: you why. So I am doubling down the fact that

429
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: there is still nope, cough, there's still no nail in

430
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Drake's coffin. He has a project coming out called Iceman.

431
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. Hold On, hold on, He's

432
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: about to still give us a project. He ain't going away,

433
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: and I do think that there is enough millions of

434
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: people to still support him, that his numbers are still

435
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy. And because we are all selectively ignorant,

436
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 1: everyone who is talking about him that is saying that

437
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: there is a nail in the coffin for Drake will

438
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: actually be probably the first people to download that new album.

439
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: So because we hate listen so much shit, he gonna

440
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: make the money. He gonna see the numbers. I don't

441
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: think that's gonna change. However, when I said that Drake

442
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: was going to run the summer, first off, I didn't

443
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: expect No Key to kind of drop off this way

444
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: when I said this. It plays in the club, it

445
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: plays on the radio, but it's not really doing what

446
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: I thought it would do. Secondly, I now have to

447
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: hold Drake accountable. I did not know that he would

448
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: go silent as quickly as as quickly as he did

449
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: to take time to heal from his ab etching NBBL.

450
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know he was gonna be in a

451
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: faja during the time that the summer started, Like we know,

452
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: summer anthems kind of got a drop around like May

453
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: ish to because it's a slow burn, and then it

454
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: hits throughout June, July, August. Then we getting ready for

455
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: the falling cup of season. Right. I did not know

456
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: that that man went to Colombia or whever he went

457
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: and wanted to get an eight pack on us. I

458
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: was not expecting the eight pack drizzy Drake to come

459
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: out like this, Like that didn't look like a that

460
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: looked like ab etching from the Colombian gods.

461
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: Or I said, Drake is trolling us. He just you know,

462
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: just leaning in.

463
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Drake actually did what the batties do. Not

464
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: only did he post his abs, he posted in a carousel.

465
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: We're on one carousel. He was running like he's been

466
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: working out ray again, Like that's what I'm saying. Like

467
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: to me, it was just like, oh.

468
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: How could you know? How could you know he was

469
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: gonna do all this stuff? I didn't know, I'm saying,

470
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: poor Mandy.

471
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: So here, I go like, ooh, Drake is gonna run

472
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 1: this summer, not knowing that he was out here buying

473
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: a summer body. I didn't know who asked Drake. The

474
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: girls are gonna suck your dick whether you have a

475
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: gut or not. Like, you don't need to be out

476
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: here shirtless, Like we don't see you as a sex

477
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: symbol my guy. Like be the lover boy, and be

478
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: the lover boy with the gut, be the love of boy,

479
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: just with the flat. We don't need you having the

480
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: eight pack. As for that, the bitches go fuck the athletes.

481
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Now we know you want to be an athlete because

482
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: we see you course side, We see you with all

483
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: these niggas jerseys on. But you didn't have to go

484
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: and get an a pack. We just wanted some hits.

485
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: I needed some hits so that the internet didn't god

486
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: damn blasphemy for my goddamn thoughts. You were gonna run

487
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: the goddamn summer.

488
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: But I think to your point, I don't think that

489
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: the attempt was to ever say that it was gonna

490
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: be a nail in his coffin. I think we all

491
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: know that Drake is a viable artist regardless he has,

492
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: he has a big fan base. I just think the

493
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: trolls on the internet, they just get carried away about

494
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: whatever it is at the time.

495
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: Yes and no, when we think of rap bes right

496
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: for sure, if we're talking about a nail on the coffin,

497
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: fifty cent absolutely did that to Joy Roll and Ja

498
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: Roe literally ran hip hop in the early two thousands

499
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: with the R and B hip hop. His voice was different.

500
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: But that was more of a personal battle though. That

501
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: was more that was a rap, that was more of

502
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: a It.

503
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Turned it to where hip hop. When we talked about

504
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: the hip hop community, right, they felt they need to

505
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: pick a side, true and baby that no one was

506
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: siding with Jo Roll and so to me, that was

507
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: an example of a nail on the coffin. To be honest, too, Drake,

508
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: we saw put a nail on the coffin to Meek

509
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: Meek never. I feel like recovered from that back and forth,

510
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: back to back. It didn't happen.

511
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: Took him a little minute.

512
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: It's as as hell.

513
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he recovered a little bit. He had

514
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: the record though what record? The hold up, wait a minute,

515
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: y'all thought I was finished?

516
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: Are we really talking about his fucking record from twenty ten.

517
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, because guess there's the nightmare if he never if

518
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: he never puts out anything from this point on, that's

519
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: his legacy right there.

520
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: Great, But for what for.

521
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: For for I don't want to smoke with nobody for

522
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: Philly either. I'm just he was about down, you know.

523
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: I just think for what we saw of me, like

524
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: we saw that nail hid in the coffin, and so

525
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: where we've been talking about the nail in the coffin

526
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: quote unquote, I just don't think it's going to happen

527
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: to Drake or I still don't. So when I see

528
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: that clip, I'm like, bruh, y'all, so extra y'all. So while,

529
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: But we've seen nails in the coffin happen in hip hop,

530
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: and this just wasn't one of them.

531
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 3: But run the storm. But so the comments of the

532
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: four thousand and seven hundred ish comments that we have,

533
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: they're talking more about running the summer, right.

534
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: That's why I'm taking it back just a little bit

535
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: because I didn't know the nigga wanted the summer body.

536
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: I thought he wanted to run the summer, not run

537
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: with this new body. I didn't know. I wasn't ready.

538
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: I feel like you're nailing the call effe, like it's

539
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: a hedge. You can't do one double down, one take back.

540
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: I feel like that's not very many to do well.

541
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: This one. I'm not gonna hold you. I'm doubling down.

542
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: Then I'm still doubling down. It's a double down. I

543
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: didn't know that he was focusing on an apac. However,

544
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: with the new album coming out and all of those things,

545
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm excising we why we bring it great? Nah Man?

546
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: I fucking love and it's not that I love Drake

547
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: and I know. Here's the thing, y'all act like there's

548
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: like a fucking biracial brigade where we all stick together.

549
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of biracials.

550
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't like.

551
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, biracial he looks and I don't fuck with that, nigga.

552
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: Okay, Jim Jones is dominicant and black, right is that considered?

553
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I don't consider that biracial. But

554
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: we're not gonna get into that. Okay, we have another clip.

555
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: We have another clip.

556
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: This one actually comes from a clip from what I

557
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: did on Good Mom's Bad Choices. I went and talked

558
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: about who was also a Black Effect Family pod shout

559
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: out to Erica and Mila. So I went on this

560
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: pod to talk about my new book, and I decided

561
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: to dig into a story on a sexual assault that

562
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I experience, and I want to run the clip and

563
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: then get into this as well, someone who's only been

564
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: with black men. I was so mad that all my

565
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: assaulters were black, not y'all having me cry. I didn't

566
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: even think I was assaulted, but he stealthed you. Yeah,

567
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: So he removed me without my knowledge and came in

568
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: me while I was blindfolded. I agreed and consented for

569
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: us to I agreed for him to blindfold me. We

570
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: agreed for him to wear a cottom. He finishes, and

571
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: before he removes my blindfold, he stops me and it's like,

572
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna be mad. Oh no, that is what he said,

573
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: And of course he gas lit me. He paid for

574
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: my Plan B and gave me a thousand dollars. Wow.

575
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I was assaultant, but the psychology around it was. But

576
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: it felt good and I took the money. And there's

577
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: always been this conflated thing that the power dynamic, and

578
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about it now seeing the Diddy case,

579
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: you can't just say because a woman has agreed to

580
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: do certain things and she is a deserving of assault.

581
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I hate my teenage self and I didn't in spite

582
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: right now of who I was in my twenties. I

583
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: hate all the stuff she did, not realizing that I

584
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: don't get to sit here and talk to y'all and

585
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: be this empowered person without the mistakes she made and

586
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: learned from. And I don't want to talk about it.

587
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: So wow, this was heavy.

588
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Was This was so heavy because the book is out

589
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: and I talk about a word that I learned while podcasting, right,

590
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: so stelthing. So when this happened to me, I was

591
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: about twenty four years old. It happened with a very

592
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: very very famous NFL player who did this, and so

593
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: just at the time of course when we talk power

594
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: dynamics and what happens and all those things, you know

595
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I don't know my twenty four

596
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: year old self was upset because a I was always

597
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: aware of STDs, never wanted to be pregnant. So like

598
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: the conversation around letting a guy just have sex with me,

599
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: raw was never a thing that I really consented to.

600
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: It's like, we gonna use the condom, and so for

601
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: me to be violated in that moment by him doing

602
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: that stealthing was a word we end up learning about

603
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen on horrible decisions. So it wasn't even

604
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: until later that I realized, oh shit, that was an

605
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: assault that took place. And the frustrating part about the

606
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: response to this specific video, which by the way, they've

607
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: removed the comments they were that bad men. This somehow

608
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: got into the manisphere, and men for whatever reason did

609
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: not want to call this assault because they're like, well,

610
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: you agree to have sex with him, Yeah, well, I

611
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: agree to have sex with this man with a condom

612
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: protect one way. I didn't agree to have unprotected sex

613
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: with him. He violated the boundary that was set forth

614
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: and did it without my consent. And so it was

615
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: just really, really, really hurtful for me to read the

616
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: comments of the responses of men because I'm just like, wow,

617
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: A part of me hates that I have to read

618
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: all these comments, which I know people that are listening

619
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: are like, well, you know, through the comments, I was

620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: a collaborating on this post. It's all coming into my

621
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: feed and the other part of it is I'm sharing

622
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: this story and there's so many women that are like,

623
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: holy shit, this happened to me. Holy shit, da da da, Wow,

624
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: the same thing happened to me. I didn't know it

625
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: was this. I didn't know there was a word for it.

626
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm conflicted between being this vulnerable person sharing

627
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: these things I'm navigating and learning and healing through in

628
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: real time, and then seeing how many people are probably

629
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: out here really still committing these shits because they refuse

630
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: to learn. They want to sit here and believe that

631
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: women aren't the victims they are. Or if you're a

632
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: sexually liberated woman, you should expect assault, or if you

633
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: agree to have sex, you should kind of expect to

634
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: You agree to have sex, that means you agreed for everything,

635
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and that's not the case. And I think seeing the

636
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: comments from this and seeing the comments from the Diddy

637
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: trial all in the same breath, I was like, oh

638
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: my god. And I may have said this in another episode.

639
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: It's so hard for me to not feel like men

640
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: really hate women. Now. I know, y'all, don't I fuck

641
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: with y'all, y'alli, of course, but but it becomes as

642
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: a woman really trying to heal and find this safe

643
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: space with men to have to exist on the internet

644
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: and read thoughts and views of men, because I think.

645
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: These things insecure men.

646
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: It's not only in secure men, but this is the

647
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: select These men have to be fully selectively ignorant, because

648
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: you're not even trying to open up and understand a

649
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: woman and what she's been through or her plight or

650
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: how you may have shown up wrong in a previous instance,

651
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, y'all nasty, Oh y'all don't

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: even want to learn.

653
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question for you about the clip too,

654
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Like I I thought it was also not like what

655
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: you've been through, but like how you've been through it,

656
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: because you're saying like three things in the clip, right,

657
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Like you were talking about like stealthying and the type

658
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: of assault. But then when you made the comment like

659
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: most of my assaults have been black, that's also kind

660
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: of sharing like the proximity of how assault happens. It's

661
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: people you know, right, It's not stranger, it's it's not

662
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: like some random person that's just attacks you. It's people

663
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: you know. And I felt like that's where the conversation

664
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: got divided, where like men were just being like willfully

665
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: like obtoose to like not even understand like instead of

666
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: like your point about like it's proximity, it's people, you know,

667
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: and I had to encounter with somebody that I consented

668
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: to these certain parts with and not these other parts. Instead,

669
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: they just feels like what they often do on the internet,

670
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: just the broad attack on men, and so then they

671
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: get defensive and then they attack back on that rather

672
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: than like this piece of commentary where you're saying a

673
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: lot of different things and then you end it with

674
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: like at least not the full conversation, but you end

675
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: this particular clip with like then the growth out of

676
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: it and recognizing like these three different people who you were.

677
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: So it's like it's tough. It's a complex clip that

678
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: like men just ate it up into like one typical piece.

679
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: They ate it up, they tore it to pieces. But

680
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I think that that's the other thing, right, Like when

681
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: we talk about and so in the book, I talk

682
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: about three different sexual assaults. Two of them were men

683
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know. One happened on a train in New

684
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: York and the other I completely forgot about. It happened

685
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: when I was seven. There was a guy outside my

686
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: daycare window doing shit and that recently just came back up.

687
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: But this guy, yeah, I consented to being with him,

688
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: and then it was like this thing where a bitch

689
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: was a broke bitch at the time, and I took

690
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: the money. So then there was like this okay, like

691
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: and then there was also the part of which is

692
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: what men are disgustingly not knowing like our bodies react

693
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: to certain things. So there's been certain criminal cases that

694
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: you can look up where the judge or the prosecutor

695
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: is asking the woman what did you get?

696
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: What?

697
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Well? Did you come where you aroused? And it's just

698
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: like it's disgusting because and I think that that's my

699
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: conflation with this incident happened. I was clearly violated. There

700
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: was no consent to this act, but it was an

701
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: enjoyable act for what it was because I didn't know

702
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: what you know, what I mean, what was happening. And

703
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: so there's this thing too that I think a lot

704
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: of women deal with. And I have to put a

705
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: trigger warning here for getting this deep into it. But

706
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: there's a part of us as women that feel violated.

707
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: But if it is all, if it feels good in

708
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: the moment, there's this thing like, well, can I feel

709
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: violated And it'd be good at the same time, but

710
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I still like my boundaries were crossed. So that's a

711
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: different problem than the other part where you brought up

712
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: me saying all of my abusers have been black men.

713
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I've only ever been with black men. I only want

714
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: to date black men. I only find myself attracted to

715
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: black men, and I've felt so much power in creating

716
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: safe spaces for them to be their full alltile and

717
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: excels that when these things have happened, I literally just

718
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: be like, damn, why would you do this to me?

719
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: Like we already have to fight the rest of the

720
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: world in every fucking way we show up in the workforce,

721
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: when we're driving our cars, with the police, with the government,

722
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: with other countries, with just existing and so I hate

723
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: that we continue that trauma within our own community to

724
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: even be so fucked up in the brain that we

725
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: would put that type of trauma onto someone knowing the

726
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: type of uphill battle we constantly have to climb, you know.

727
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: And so I am doubling down on my experience. Good

728
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: for you, and I will continue to share like those

729
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: things that happened to me. Because what I've noticed with

730
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the release of this book and with meeting people this

731
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: past week with the book tour, is there's a lot

732
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: of people that have so much shame that they would

733
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: never share these stories. And so then so many of

734
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: us walk with feeling alone or embarrassed or aimed that

735
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: damn we this happened to me. And so there's a

736
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: safe space that I'm creating for listeners and for other

737
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: women to just be like, shit, I'm not alone, And

738
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: so doubling down where people are like, oh my god,

739
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I would have never shared that. Oh my god, that's

740
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: not what happened to you. I am actively healing and

741
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: I'll work in progress, but my experiences are very real,

742
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not the only one experiencing these So where

743
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: sometimes I'd be like, damn, why did I bring that

744
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: to the airways, because these comments are tearing me the

745
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: fuck up? Me sharing my story is something I'm gonna

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking continue doing. So doubling Dann, I enjoy.

747
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: I enjoy getting down with you because you can be both.

748
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: You can be that first clip and you can be

749
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: that second clip, and both of them are very genuinely you.

750
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: So That's why I definitely work with you. This next

751
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: clip is kind of somewhere in the middle.

752
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh God, this next clo preface Again. We did our

753
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: book tour, we did helopress around it, and because Charlemagne

754
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: is him and I heeart supports everything that I do,

755
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: we got to go onto the breakfast club. And so

756
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: the day of our book release, we went on to

757
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. And of course, the conversations that we

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: talk about often are you know, ourselves, our experiences dating growing.

759
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: A lot of the book is the progression of maybe

760
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: how I used to get down and how I've learned

761
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: from my mistakes. And so I said something that got

762
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: the people going, I'm gonna play the clip and then

763
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell y'all. If I don't down and take.

764
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: It back, I'm doubling down.

765
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: This one was easy. This was easy to me. Here

766
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: we go because I do think, like, and this is

767
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna sound bad, I do think everyone is with who

768
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: they deserve. What do you mean if you're with someone

769
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: who is in that great to you, it's because you

770
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: don't believe you deserve better. And so, and I've been

771
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: talking to this a lot with so I had this

772
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: recent conversation. I went to Malta and I'm sitting around

773
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: a group of women and we're talking about the Diddy trial.

774
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: And what happens is these women start sharing all of

775
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: these abusive relationships that they were in, and they talk

776
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: about how they didn't feel safe even to share with

777
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: the men in their lives because the men in their

778
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: lives were like, well, if he touched you, if he

779
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: do this, I'm going to jail because I'm gonna come.

780
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: And so I shared this story online and it was

781
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: so sad how many men were like yeah, but then

782
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: we step in and they stay. So then what And

783
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm just like whoa basically even saying like how do

784
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: you know you stay too long? Everyone in certain relationships,

785
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: I feel like they deserve it, because it's like, if

786
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: you don't want better for yourself, no one can lead

787
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: you out of it. You could take a you could

788
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: take a horse to water, but you can't make them

789
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: drink it. And so I do think that what if

790
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: you're in a bad relationship or not, you don't feel

791
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: like you deserve more, You're in a relationship you deserve

792
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and so like literally in the book, I talk about

793
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: being like, oh girl, you ain't have no self worth

794
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: for yourself. Oh you was desperate, Oh you were you

795
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: were insecure. And I think it takes a lot of

796
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: time for women to say those words about themselves, and

797
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: so until you're able to do that, the person you're

798
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: with is probably more of a reflection of for you. Okay,

799
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: so I'm telling you right the fuck now, ah, bitch

800
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: is doubling down. I said what I said, and this

801
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: is where I like to call out the people accountability

802
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker. And boy do people not want to

803
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: have it hear me out. Let's get into what definitions

804
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: are because maybe people don't like the word deserve. What

805
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: does it mean you deserve? Deserve is to have earned

806
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: or to be given something because of the way you

807
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: have behaved, or the the qualities that you have to

808
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: do something, or to have her show qualities worthy of

809
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: what I meant by saying that, and maybe let me

810
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: remove that with the word allow. Right, you are with

811
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: a person who you allow to treat you a certain way.

812
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: And so to me, if you don't think you can

813
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: find better, you're gonna get what you get what you

814
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: have because you genuinely do not believe there's something better

815
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: out there for you. Also, I want to speak to

816
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: the abuse portion, because of course comprehension skills are lacked

817
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: amongst us. And the people in the comments were like,

818
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: so a woman deserves to be killed and beat up

819
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: by her abuser. I never said that anyone deserves to

820
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: be killed or abused, however, And boy, is this gonna

821
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: sound hard to them. And I want you to know

822
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: that there's empathy. Two years ago, I lost my cousin

823
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: to domestic violence. Her boyfriend shot her down while she

824
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: was walking home from work because she tried to leave.

825
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: So trust and believe I understand what it's like. However,

826
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: it took a long time before that point.

827
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

828
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of signs that a man or a

829
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: partner or a woman shows before it gets to that level, right,

830
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: And so had she believed she could do better, that

831
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: she deserved more, she would have left him a long

832
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: time ago. And it's not that I'm blaming her. I

833
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: never want to put out there that I blame a victim,

834
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: because there are monsters and I'm not a monster apologist. However,

835
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: in the ways in which I've grown through therapy and

836
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: really looking at myself and valuing myself. Oh there's certain

837
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: niggas that couldn't smell my farts. What you mean, like

838
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: the way that certain men will show up or just say, oh,

839
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not giving this to you. I can't show up

840
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: this way for you. Oh, because I know what I deserve.

841
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: I who It's easy to be like, oh, ain't for me, playboy. However,

842
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: when you're a woman who seeks out the validation of men,

843
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: or are so codependent that you need just a partner

844
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: next to you because that's what gives you your your value, Yeah,

845
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna put up a bullshit because you

846
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: just like that someone is right there by you. What

847
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: are they're doing what you want or not? And if

848
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: you think a man don't have to take you out

849
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: on dates because you don't deserve to be taken out

850
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: on dates. If you don't think you deserve flowers just

851
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get them, and so if you're

852
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: dealing with a man doing these things and you're not

853
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: demanding more, it's because you're with someone who's showing up

854
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: how you think you deserve. And what it is is

855
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: what I said, it's a goddamn mirror and it's a

856
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: reflection of your self worth. If you are with a

857
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: shitty partner, it's because you think shit of your motherfucker self.

858
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: Period. Steaming, steaming. I want to say about that, take

859
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: the so the good. The extraordinary thing about that was

860
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: not only was it like the conversation online, but then

861
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: they made that the topic of the day on the

862
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: radio station and the people were just calling in and

863
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: I think that, like, so because you were cooking, you

864
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: were cooking, and then you pause for like the smallest

865
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 3: second you say you could lead a horse to water,

866
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: and I feel like.

867
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: You can make them drink.

868
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: I think that was the I think that's the part that.

869
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: Lit the fire into people and and and got things going.

870
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: But that was that was I don't think it was controversial,

871
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: but there was some heat through some heat to the tape.

872
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: It's funny because certain friends reached out to me, even

873
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: certain previous guests like Rocky thunder me and was like,

874
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't even see how people are this mad at

875
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: this clip. And then I had another Horror Hive member

876
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: d m me and was like, ooh, bitch, read me.

877
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: I felt like you were telling me about myself.

878
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: That's weird.

879
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: The problem is people are walking around and not releasing

880
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: the rip actually, so you know what, I'm driving. I'm

881
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: on my way to the gym, and I listened to

882
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 4: the reference to Charlotte and I'm like, holy shit fuck,

883
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, everybody's gonna call going crazy because

884
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: she's reading these people. And that's the whole thing too,

885
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 4: like act yourself. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, y'ah, oh wow,

886
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: why do you want to be in a relationship? I

887
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: don't think people answer that question and they involve themselves

888
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: in these scenarios where they want to control or they

889
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 4: or they don't get what they want and deserve because

890
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: they with somebody trying to force it. You can't if

891
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: if everyone's a different spaces at the time, and there's

892
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: so many nuances, so much nuance to the ship. But

893
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: I think that that question and that answer and that

894
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: that was that was it. Here's that's the book. That's

895
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: the next book.

896
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: That's right. It's very simple, and.

897
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I want to I want to read another definition to

898
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: y'all to get to get what we're doing right. Ignorant

899
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: is lacking knowledge or awareness in general. Uneducated they put unsophisticated.

900
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to lean into that because here's

901
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: the thing too, about how you yourself and the work

902
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: that you do and what you even know about relationships, right,

903
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: I get it. A lot of us don't maybe have

904
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: did not grow up with healthy relationships to view where

905
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: products of our environment. There's certain examples that are set

906
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: out and so for me, when I come out and

907
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I say something like that, there's people that choose to

908
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: be selectively ignorant because they refuse to hold up the mirror.

909
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people choose not to go

910
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: to therapy or not talk through the traumas that they

911
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: know exists literally because it's work and they don't want

912
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: to be faced with the fact that they're insecure, the

913
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: fact that they don't love themselves with like and there's

914
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: really hard truths sometimes with navigating finding yourself, and there's

915
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: just a lot of people realistically who don't want to

916
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: do the work to get there, and so they choose

917
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: to be selectively ignorant in the fact that now, instead

918
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: of really listening to what I said, they want to

919
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: be like, oh, she said a bitch desire to be

920
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: killed by her. You like, it's just like, oh, no,

921
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: you don't understand the nuance of you don't even care

922
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: to dig into the nuance of what I'm saying, because

923
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I potentially just said something that triggered you. Because maybe

924
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: if you want to fucked up trash ass relationship, ain't

925
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: you mad? Then I'm telling you, bitch, that you deserve

926
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: to be in that raggedy ass relationship because you hate yourself.

927
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people kind of say, yeah,

928
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm good, I love myself. Oh, I value myself. Ooh,

929
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm confident. Ooh, I wouldn't let a nigga do that

930
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: to me, when in reality he doing it. Sis, you

931
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: don't love yourself because if you did, you wouldn't be

932
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: in the position that you are now. And I just

933
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of things that we can't control.

934
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminds me that saying the hard things are

935
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: hard things, right, And so like what you're saying, like

936
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: the individual work relationships good and bad, it's just hard work.

937
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: And I think I think a lot of people grow

938
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: up in a certain way where it's like, you know,

939
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: like when you're a child, you're so used to being guided, right,

940
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: either your parents tell you what to do, or if

941
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: you're in school after seventh grade, is eighth grade. After

942
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: your junior year is your senior year when you become

943
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: an adult. Like that, it's the hard work you have

944
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: to really figure out, like the things you want to be,

945
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: the things you want to do, and you know, obviously,

946
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: I guess where a lot of the crash outs happen.

947
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 3: But the hard things are hard things.

948
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that too, because the reality

949
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: of it is, while we're kids, were witnessing relationships, but

950
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: we're told to stay in a child's place, and so unfortunately,

951
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: when we get to adulthood, we're navigating it like we're

952
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: newborn babies. Like relationships. It's like a new like we

953
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: got to figure out this shit, like we just came

954
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: out of somebody pussy.

955
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: It's the age of an adult.

956
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: What's the age of an adult?

957
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: Eighteen twenty one?

958
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy?

959
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: I think it's different when you're in a city. If

960
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: you live in a city, you're not an adult ta

961
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: you like thirty five?

962
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: I Okay, this is gonna sound crazy. I'm not talking

963
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: sex here, okay, But in terms of having a good

964
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: enough viewpoint to view and see what's happening and make

965
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: your own opinion about it. I say sixteen seventeen, and

966
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I say that because.

967
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: After eighteen you're eighteen. You a newborn adult.

968
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: Yes, but when I say sixteen seventeen, even I would

969
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: say as soon as you start experiencing any level of responsibility,

970
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: Like I started working at fifteen, right, so I was

971
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: getting a check, I was budgeting, I was helping with

972
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: finances around the house. But also at the time, let's

973
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: be very clear, yeah, my little past dat started fucking

974
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and so there were like things that I was handling

975
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: that to be fair, there were things I was dealing

976
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: with as a sixteen seventeen year old that I'm still

977
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: dealing with at thirty five, navigating. And so when you're

978
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: entering that worldview of where, okay, you understand a little

979
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: bit about relationships, you might not get it right, but

980
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: it's because you were and new. No one really talked

981
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: to those things. And unfortunately, our parents aren't a place

982
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: where they feel comfortable telling you how to navigate. These

983
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: tell you how to navigate having self worth in the bedroom.

984
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: We're advocating for yourself in the bedroom, for the things

985
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: you want or demanding a raise, especially because we're like

986
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: the millennials are the first of a generation that had

987
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: the ability to have these C suite level positions as

988
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: women and where we have the option to not be

989
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: moms and wives because we could build our own empires

990
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: and so we just they didn't have the knowledge to

991
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: pass that down to us. And hey, ke'p you looking

992
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: at me crazy?

993
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: They were trying to figure it out.

994
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: They were trying to figure it out.

995
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: So that means we were mistakes who all of us

996
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: we are the mistakes of them trying to figure it

997
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: out that I made it.

998
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: My mama aborted the baby before me, But I was,

999
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: I was, I was playing. I wasn't a mistake like

1000
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: I was actively had the baby before me. Wasn't.

1001
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: Really, Why don't mean us per se in totality? A

1002
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: lot of us weren't designed to be here in totality.

1003
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: We are all men and women victims of the patriarchy.

1004
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: And to be very clear, I think what we're witnessing

1005
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: now to is we've been lied to this whole time,

1006
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: not only with patriarchy being our golden standard of how

1007
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: we have to exist as men and women. But if

1008
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: y'all go back to the American dream episode, maybe we

1009
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: are living in a third world country like We're on

1010
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: the precipice of a World War three. We don't have

1011
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: the technology and transportation systems that I've been able to

1012
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: experience in other countries. We our crime rates are high.

1013
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: We don't value the rights of our citizens. People who

1014
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: were born here are getting their birthright. Citizenships werevoked just

1015
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: because we got an Orange man in office. And so

1016
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: even where we were raised with saying America is the

1017
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: best place in the world to live, it's like, oh bitch,

1018
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: we was lied to. The aliens is here. We learn

1019
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: that shit like the shit that we've just been lied to,

1020
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: And so now we are unlearning things and we're having

1021
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to exist and the

1022
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: best way to make life a living.

1023
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: So I feel like there's a good transition. You've referenced

1024
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff we've talked about in the past,

1025
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: the American dream, patriarchy. The show is called selective Ignorance.

1026
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: Should we go into our down for some ignorance and

1027
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: some topics? Real quick? I know how you want to

1028
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: end it, but let's let's dance on some topics real quick.

1029
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: We have categories. I have an order here, but I

1030
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: can ask you what order you want to go. We

1031
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: have politics, sports and music. I think you want to

1032
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: end it on music. Do you want to do politics?

1033
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: Now you do sports?

1034
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: What you want to do? You want to do music? Sports?

1035
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: What you want to talk about? I mean I kind

1036
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: of talked about in politics. I don't mind leaning into

1037
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: that first because I just mentioned the World War three

1038
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, what's happening. Uh, we have Iran versus Israel,

1039
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: we have Australia versus China, and we have the UK

1040
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: versus Ukraine or Russia. And clearly mister orange Man is

1041
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: putting his two cents into all of it because he's

1042
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: just like, I'm a lot of who who what the US?

1043
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: But y'all are the countries as Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

1044
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm literally just like that girls are beefing. And when

1045
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I say the girls, the country, maybe the girls is beefing, okay,

1046
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: And the man in this instance that they're all fighting

1047
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: over is essentially power, I mean literally, and then it's

1048
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: each of them trying to figure out who's pussy is

1049
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: the best, who is the most powerful, who gonna have

1050
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: everyone else bow out or bow down? And what's frustrating

1051
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: about this is like we're in a place where bitch,

1052
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: we just fucking went through a panel Ramo, the pandemic

1053
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: went through. We to gone through a terrorist attack, especially

1054
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: as a millennial, right, Like a part of me like

1055
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: thinks some of other eras I would want to live in.

1056
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I don't want to go back

1057
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: to slavery. Don't even want to go back to the

1058
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: Civil Rights movie because the bitch is biracial. Do I

1059
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: want to go to the future. Maybe not, because by

1060
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: then none of us are gonna talk as humans, because

1061
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: we're all gonna be fucking robots.

1062
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: And so I'm just like, is this really like the

1063
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: blog era was kind of cool.

1064
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: Well, we were here.

1065
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: I was here during that, you could but even the

1066
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: blog era in comparison to now.

1067
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: Though the early two thousands, oh you know what's crazy

1068
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: after that? Hold On nine to eleven was oh one?

1069
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: But you know what, if I could freeze a moment

1070
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Speaker 1: in time, but also I could think of cons abattitude.

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Speaker 1: If I could freeze the moment in time, it would

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Speaker 1: probably be late nineties, early two thousands. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: say that because the music was bombed. I had to

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Speaker 1: fake I need so bitch, I know about what the

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Speaker 1: clubs are giving hold on. The clubs were clubbing, baby,

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Speaker 1: I had no shame of getting there before twelve so

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Speaker 1: I could get my free Amrodo Sour, followed by my

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Speaker 1: Long Island icy if eybybody in. I was lit. I

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Speaker 1: did the Amrodo Sour, followed by a Long Island. The

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00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: men just invited you to the tables. The bottles were flowing,

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Speaker 1: and you know why because technology wasn't so advanced that

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: the scammers were scamming. The drugs was hitting. Shit wasn't legal,

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00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: so they was. The money was flowing differently, you feel

1084
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: me like back then they were giving rappers million dollar

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: budgets because the music industry somehow money was just a flowing. Okay,

1086
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't going into their pockets, but there was budgets.

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: The budgets were budgeting.

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Speaker 3: This is the best podcast because you'll never find any

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00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: place else that will go from Israel and Iran to

1090
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: fake IDs and million dollar music.

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Speaker 1: No, there's literally nowhere else because that's how my brain worked.

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Speaker 1: Just know that when my brain goes, that's where it goes.

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: I literally will somehow be able to correlate World War

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Speaker 1: three to Amaroda Towers and or.

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Speaker 3: We got your take We know where you stand. We

1096
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: know where you stand. Do we want to do one

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00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: big beautiful bill? Or Mom, Donnie runs New York?

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Speaker 1: What I guess? A kay, what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 1: So the one big beautiful bill, y'all? The Senate passed

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Speaker 1: the bill. It's fifty Republicans that would for forty seven

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00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: dims and three Republics against voted against it. Yeah, it's

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00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: moving to the House for a vote, which by the

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: time this episode airs will be past the deadline. But basically,

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00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: it is a bill that would lead to approximately twelve

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00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: million people losing healthcare coverage. Plus it would add three

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: point three trillion dollars to the national debt. And if

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Speaker 1: I don't know if some of y'all know, bitch, Bill

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: Clinton just had our country debt free during our lifetime,

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: we were a debt free country.

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Speaker 3: We are now heavily in debt wels.

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you want to think of what debt looks like,

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Speaker 1: especially because I'm a world traveler.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that budget error. You were talking about the

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00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: budgets and all that, that's that's that's that's the Clinton.

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Speaker 1: The budgets of all well, they clearly have not budgeted

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00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: in our government very well. But basically what it does

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: is it affects the value of the dollar, which makes

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: witch we already paying taifs eggs of thirty six dollars,

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00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: and if we go in to debt even more by

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Speaker 1: three point three trillion dollars, it makes the US currency

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00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: worth fucking nothing. So imagine when you go to a

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Speaker 1: third world country and you're like, oh shit, everything sheep's

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00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: over here. It's because our dollar holds the value that

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: it holds, and so if we get this deep into

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Speaker 1: a fucking national debt, it really impacts us from a

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: military standpoint, from an economic standpoint. And for me, what's

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: crazy is the idea of twelve million people losing health coverage.

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Speaker 1: That part, I'm also thinking of the people that don't

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: have health coverage. Let's be very clear, this is the

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: people that would lose health care coverage. Do you know

1131
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: how many people have to pay out of pocket because

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: they're not at a full time job. Because look at

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00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: the economy we're in. The unemployment rates are skyrocketed, and

1134
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: there's people that are taking on multiple part time jobs

1135
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: in order to cover the rents that ain't change that

1136
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: have only kept going up, but they're doing so to

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00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: maintain life, and so they're not getting the benefits that

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00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: would normally come with a full time job. For me,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna led you. I don't understand it. I

1140
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: don't understand anything happening with our government right now.

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00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: I think you remember remember when Trump said he could

1142
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and like nothing would happen, Yes,

1143
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: like that famous quote. I feel like that's what this

1144
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: bill is because there's so many people that voted for

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: him that are poor, because Medicaid is for people with

1146
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: low income or disability, and it's essentially like a huge

1147
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: swath of people that voted for him that he's saying

1148
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: fuck you, and he's expecting them to still support him.

1149
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: So like, to me, this this feels like the actualization

1150
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: of him saying like I could shoot people in Fifth Avenue,

1151
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: nothing going to happen. To me, like he's about to

1152
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: really like fuck over a ton of his base and

1153
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: he expects them to st rock with him, and if

1154
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: they do, I feel like we're in a shitty place.

1155
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: But if they don't, hopefully they're not sheep and they

1156
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: wake up. But to me, this is like the manifestation

1157
00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: of that comment.

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Speaker 4: We fake outraging the whole crew told the whole death

1159
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: Row crew told us what was going down.

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: They gave us all the clue blues clues.

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Speaker 4: We had so many TikTok social media political pundits that

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: gave warning that broke down the I don't even want

1163
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 4: to say that the you know what I'm talking about,

1164
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 4: the man, the manifesto or whatever that shit is P five.

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Speaker 2: They told you.

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they told you, and we had an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: fix that. Right, I'm not I don't know not to

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Speaker 4: be conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of a nigga telling you wasn't ship

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Speaker 1: and you just want to keep hoping the relationship keeps

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01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: showing up with someone that bro Trump did told us

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: exactly where the fuck he was, and we're like, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a great guy.

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Speaker 2: Actually he told us in twenty sixteen he been telling.

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Speaker 1: Us, bitch, So what been telling that?

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Speaker 3: What of it is? He told us? This is him,

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Speaker 3: This is him showing us because these cuts, the cuts

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: can go to the tax.

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Speaker 2: Makes Are we going to eat healthier?

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Speaker 4: Are we going to practice good healthy habits to circumvent

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Speaker 4: this possibility as it relates to not having healthcare right,

1182
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: sometimes you got to look at the other side of it, like, yo,

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01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 4: we are we do have some type of control over ourselves,

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 4: no matter what unfortunate. And I'm not it's fucked up

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01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: because the elders, and I think about the seniors who

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: may not have that opportunity to make those lifestyle changes.

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Speaker 1: Not only that you're saying that elders, what about the

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: disabilities underserved communities where literally they have a Popeye's, a McDonald's,

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Speaker 1: there's no fresh produce in their neighborhoods, there's not a

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Speaker 1: Whole Foods nearby. It becomes almost a food desert. And

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Speaker 1: certain communities that don't have the ability to even eat healthier.

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Speaker 1: It's just not going to be an option for.

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Speaker 4: Those in East New York Brooklyn on Pennsylvania Avenue between

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Speaker 4: Lendon all the way down to let's say Stanley Avenue,

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Speaker 4: Oh maybe a little further. You got Chipotle. Now that's

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Speaker 4: more New Sonics within ten right. Then you have next

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Speaker 4: door to that Checkers. Across the street you have Popeyes

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Speaker 4: and Wendy's. Then across the street from that you have

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Speaker 4: white Castles as businesses.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that. I ain't gonna hold you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. White it's still here. If you want

1202
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: bubble guts, it's a ship show. If you want a

1203
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: free colonic baby eat white Castle, that ship gonna have.

1204
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: You want a toilet, clean the.

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Speaker 4: Bunk out all of those options, KFC somewhere down on

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Speaker 4: flat it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then in the middle not a.

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Speaker 1: Juice barn site. And y'all know Planet Fitness serves pizza

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01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: on Friday. They want to keep y'all in that gym.

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Speaker 2: Listen, they still do that.

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Speaker 1: They do pizza Fridays at the goddamn Planet Fitness. I know,

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Speaker 1: we we we went a little over today, but we listen,

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Speaker 1: were back, you do. I want to get into some

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Speaker 1: a little bit more New York.

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Speaker 4: The New York primaries, I think, okay, New York, Yes,

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Speaker 4: all right, so let's get into what mom Donnie runs

1217
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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 1: He won fifty six percent of Culomo's forty four percent

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01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: for the Democratic elect And what's crazy is Cuomo is

1220
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: actually saying he's not gonna like convene or fall out

1221
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: the race. He's gonna re get into as an independent.

1222
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Speaker 1: Which here's the thing. Here's the thing with that, with

1223
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Speaker 1: where we're at with allowing ourselves to not just pick

1224
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: red or blue. I like that such a progressive state

1225
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: like New York is introducing this independent because Cuomo, even

1226
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: though yes he's a piece of shit, and Adams, Eric

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Speaker 1: Adams is running. But and here's the thing, I'm glad

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01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: that they are, because what it does do if all

1229
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: three of them ran as a Democrat, you're not splitting

1230
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: so much of the Democratic vote. That's probably gonna lead

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Speaker 1: to a goddamn Republican.

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Speaker 3: Getting There's three independents running, so that may happen. Adams

1233
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: is gonna be independent, There's a dude who got mad stacks,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be independent, and then maybe Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad. The Independent Party reminds me the Green Party.

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: I think that we should have always had another party

1237
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: instead of making it so black and white, red and blue,

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Speaker 1: you know what I.

1239
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: Mean my mind, it seems like it's more the same.

1240
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 4: Though they're just removing the they're still gonna get funded

1241
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: by someone or someone's from.

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Speaker 2: Both sides, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not mad at that.

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: I think it's still like kind of cap that they

1245
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: running an independent because the values still are the same

1246
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 4: as they was.

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: They was, Oh, yeah, they're just yeah, they're just opportunists.

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: They're just opportunists who got cash to do it.

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Speaker 4: But I feel what you're saying, no, just to have

1250
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 4: you know the same people is like, okay, y'all just

1251
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 4: switching the switching the part, but it's the same philosophy.

1252
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 4: Is still going to get big donors and the billionaire funding.

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01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: And just like I mean, to me, I prefer that.

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01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many people who aren't able to

1255
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: run because running up a political position campaign is very expensive.

1256
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: So I'm not mad with allowing us more options only

1257
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: because let's be very clear, at the end of the day,

1258
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: any political campaign, any any voting, anytime we have to vote,

1259
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: we are choosing the lesser of two evils, And now

1260
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: New York just gets to choose between the lesser of

1261
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: four evils, you know what I mean. Like, Unfortunately, it's

1262
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: still human beings making these decisions and running, and they

1263
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: have all of their self interests. They still have their

1264
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: own fucked up mindsets and mind views. Like what's even

1265
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: crazy too is to know how progressive New York is

1266
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: and to know that it's a blue state. It's really

1267
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: fucked up that racism supersedes all, especially for the black

1268
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: community to see how some of them are speaking about Mumdamni.

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Speaker 1: So one in particular is fifty cent who said he'll

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Speaker 1: actually pay Mmdamie to leave because of his plans to

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01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: tax the top one percent in corporations, and Eric Adams

1272
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: jumped in with the tweet saying to send him to fantasyland.

1273
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: So what kind of sucks is we're seeing the same

1274
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: ways in which we as people, black people specifically have

1275
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: been left out of the conversations to run in these

1276
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: certain spaces, and he's receiving that from us as if

1277
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: we haven't been in a position where people didn't feel

1278
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: like we had the right to run because of our

1279
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: ethnicity and color of our skin or where we're from.

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Speaker 1: It's really fucking ignorant to see black people doing that

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Speaker 1: to another person of color, especially one who definitely seems

1282
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: to be a bit for the people. It is interesting

1283
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: to me, though, how much religion is playing into this

1284
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, because there is supposed to be a

1285
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: separation between the two, But again, that's just his his

1286
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: cultural background and his upbringing.

1287
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 4: And New York is a whole melting pot is a

1288
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: whole melting and the progressive, the youth carried him to

1289
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 4: the victory in this in this uh and I predict

1290
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: that it's going to happen again. So we're going to

1291
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 4: see a bunch of fake outrage. It's just I'm just

1292
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: concerned about the antics that's going to happen.

1293
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, let's be very clear when you are wealthy, when

1294
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: you are wealthy, unfortunately, you're rich before you're black. And

1295
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: that's what I think celebrities work to get to. So

1296
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: we're or no, I got money, I'm not like black

1297
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: isn't going to stop me for anything. We saw Asap

1298
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: do it when when BLM was taking place and he

1299
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh I got to having problems with the

1300
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: cops type shit, you know what I mean? Even though

1301
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: you know and he got fucking took brought out of

1302
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: low Wayne, don't see color Like it's so crazy that

1303
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: a part of our goals and many of us, I'm

1304
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: not going to speak for all of us, but in

1305
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: terms of the black community, the goal is to achieve

1306
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: wealth to now no longer associate yourself with blackness. And

1307
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: I feel like a comment like this from fifty cent

1308
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: is exactly that, Like you're now just worried about your

1309
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: one percent, But so what you're willing for someone to

1310
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: remain in office then maybe still stops and risks that

1311
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: might be misappropriating the use of the Department of Education

1312
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: funds or gun laws and all these things that actually

1313
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: have a stronger impact on our communities. Like it kind

1314
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: of sucks. And speaking of that, I do want to

1315
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: just lean into the politics. Well, I'm talking shit about fifty.

1316
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: Another rapper in political mass is Nelly, who fired back

1317
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: hit at critics who continue to say fuck you at

1318
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Soup Dog for being a part of Trump's inauguration festivities.

1319
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: He initially said it was the White House and the

1320
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: respect for the office, and now he's on ig Syngh.

1321
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: In summary, I'll put whatever up. Me and Snoop do

1322
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: more in the community and have been doing for over

1323
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: twenty plus years against any of you that are just

1324
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: on your talking trash and have no stats to back

1325
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: up what you mean to the community. And I ain't

1326
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna hold you can't go ahead. I get it. I

1327
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: get it.

1328
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I get it. I get it.

1329
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: But my thing is these guys have to.

1330
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 4: They got to understand that we're watching this stuff with

1331
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 4: fans we contributed to their success and their wealth. So

1332
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 4: when they do things like that that maybe go against

1333
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: our philosophy and our expectations to them, they should be

1334
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 4: open to critique and open to have dialogue and open

1335
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 4: to have understanding.

1336
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: Don't just dismiss people like that.

1337
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I have a problem with, Like,

1338
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 4: you know, Snoop, he said things that was in locksteff

1339
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 4: with the community, and then he does this and then

1340
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: it's like when people hold them accountable or not whole accountable,

1341
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: the action Bouty is like dismissive. Don't be dismissive. I

1342
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 4: don't think that that's the the We deserve conversation and explanation.

1343
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: You know what I think. What I think this we want,

1344
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: this response is him being human. If y'all's black people

1345
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: are still working for these cracker ass crackers, because you

1346
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: need to check. Let's be very honest. He probably got

1347
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: a check for this, like when you are like as

1348
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: an entertainer, like he has mouths to feed. He has

1349
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Like if you're still out here, we talked about it.

1350
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: There's some of you that are still shopping at Target, right,

1351
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: There's still some of you that are doing things because

1352
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: it's the easy thing to do. There's still some of

1353
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: you working for corporations that you may not fully align

1354
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: with if you really look at who their support in

1355
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: terms of presidential elects or government places, or how they're

1356
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: really helping the community. You could be a man sucking

1357
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: dick working for a homophobic ass company because guess what,

1358
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Bill's got to get paid.

1359
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: And so for me, I think that we hold these

1360
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: celebrities to these kind of unrealistic standards of kind of

1361
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: how they should exist when sometimes we're in the same

1362
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: exact position as them, just at a smaller scale. Pro

1363
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: you went and got a check.

1364
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: Tell everybody got a price.

1365
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: Everybody got a price. And that's why fucking fifty is like, oh, nigga,

1366
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: let me see you out of here. So I gotta

1367
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: pay the taxes that I don't want to pay because

1368
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm rich, Fuck everybody else. At the end of the day.

1369
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: I always said, we're dealing with possible nuclear missiles and

1370
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: air strikes and all this shit. Nigga, the end of

1371
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: the world ain't gonna because of zimbies, ain't gonna because

1372
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: of alien attack. It's gonna because we are all individualistic

1373
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: and when it comes down to it, there's not gonna

1374
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: be one one day, shape or time where we really

1375
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: come together as a motherfucking community and come together and

1376
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: form arms to protect the nation, each other, our neighborhoods.

1377
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 1: It's not going motherfucking happen. And if you don't believe me,

1378
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: watch Queen of Slim. See how that motherfucker movie ended.

1379
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: It's a trash ass movie that made me mad. But

1380
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: I said, ooh, this is why the world go in

1381
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: because we ain't got no can That's.

1382
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 4: Why any who Jason, when did nanny take us your

1383
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: how to? When did she take us your how to? Jason?

1384
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: All right, we talked to all the politics that it's

1385
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: not right just because we came back. We missed y'all

1386
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. It's not right. Without getting

1387
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: into our did He trial predictions as of today, at

1388
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: this very moment, the jury is deliberating. By the time

1389
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: this comes out, there could be a verdict. But before

1390
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: we get out of here, I did want to sign

1391
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: out with did He trial predictions. I'm gonna start with you, Jason,

1392
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: then I want to hear yours King, and then I'll

1393
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: wrap it up and send our classmates on their way.

1394
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: So what do you think the verdict will be in

1395
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,959
Speaker 1: the did He trial? Jason go First, I think.

1396
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 3: I think, I know, the Rico conversation gets real funny

1397
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: and people are like, that's not Rico, and some people

1398
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: are like, you don't know what Rico is. Obviously, it's

1399
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: probably like the wrong framing to go after him for

1400
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: because Rico was supposed to be for people like al Capone, right,

1401
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: But I think I think the like the coercion part

1402
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: is what's really gonna get him. Like I think, I think,

1403
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: like what because I know, like you know, you had

1404
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: to mention it like Jane Doe's testimony, and I know,

1405
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 3: like she talked a lot about like how she booked

1406
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 3: her own escorts and how she was jealous, but then

1407
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: it kept on coming up where then Puff always kept saying,

1408
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: you know, I pay your rent right and then and

1409
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 3: then he and then he he like slowly got her away,

1410
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: like he had her own call so much that she

1411
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: couldn't even do anything else for money, and so like,

1412
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: I think, if he goes down, it's the coercion part

1413
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: that gets them. I think I think that's the like

1414
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: make it or break it part do you think he

1415
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: does time. I think he does time. I think it

1416
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: does time. And I think the coresion is gonna be

1417
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: the thing that gets on interesting.

1418
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, King, I don't think that.

1419
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna They dropped the arson and kidnapping

1420
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 4: charge to simplify the charges. From what I understand, and

1421
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 4: part of me those out there that's listening, if I

1422
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: if I got this wrong, because I've kind of been

1423
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 4: in and out of following this stuff. That's been unanymous

1424
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: decision on this right. So if there's twelve jurors and

1425
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: there's one eleven not eleven guilty, one not guilty, what

1426
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 4: does that means that mistrial?

1427
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: Is it hung Jerry jury? He goes free.

1428
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: He goes free. So you got to have all eleven, twelve,

1429
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: whatever the number of juries. I think he's I think

1430
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 4: he's gonna escape this one, Okay. I think based on

1431
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 4: what I'm seeing. And then also there's the consent part

1432
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 4: of it. Even with all of the things that has

1433
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: been exposed, there is Listen, this lifestyle, those doors that

1434
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 4: you go through, you have a choice, and I think

1435
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 4: that and I'm not see I think another part of

1436
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 4: it is people always want to confuse what happened with

1437
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: Cassie yep, and not look at all of the other

1438
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 4: things that's been happening, even in some cases her participation,

1439
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 4: if you will. And it took me a while to

1440
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 4: even accept that there's a lot of consent in this

1441
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: stuff here because of the lifestyle and the money and

1442
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 4: all of the things that come with it. So I

1443
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: think that that's also another part of it, regardless of

1444
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: what it is I think publicly is. He's been tried

1445
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 4: and convicted, But as far as the legal aspect of it,

1446
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm fifty fifty with I think he's going to walk.

1447
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm interested in your take because I feel like

1448
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: the same person we think, like because I think Jane

1449
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: Dope's thing got him, and I know you think it worked.

1450
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 3: Opposite to me is.

1451
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: A little bit more of the Jane Doe thing, right.

1452
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: I think that the prosecution did a great job showing

1453
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: that here, freaky ass right. I think they did a

1454
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: terrible job showing that he's a criminal essentially, And even

1455
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 1: for what the public's perception is of Rico, you assume

1456
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: there's all these bodies and drugs and like, like a

1457
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: Rico charges, like you think in mafia. You thinking like

1458
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: the well, you know what I mean, You're thinking this

1459
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: huge criminal organization enterprise, And unfortunately, it literally just told

1460
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: us the story of Hollywood. And so for me, I

1461
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: hate to say that, I do think he's just gonna

1462
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: get time served. I don't think that fifty cent Baby

1463
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: Mama aka Jane Doe helped it all with the testimony,

1464
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: because what it showed unfortunately, heard admitting to being jealous

1465
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: of young Miami, heard pretty much saying she thought she

1466
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: was the only one. It pretty much looked more like

1467
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: a scorned woman up there who was just accepting this

1468
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: for the lifestyle of ten thousand dollars a month, and

1469
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: so it took away even whatever coercion or non consent

1470
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: and things like that, because she was a willing participant

1471
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: because she got paid. And then even bringing up all

1472
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: the male sex workers, they pretty much just said, well,

1473
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: the women actually a lot of the times hired us,

1474
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: they did it sometimes. I didn't even see Diddy like it,

1475
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: and we got paid. So even the male escorts that

1476
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: were interviewed didn't seem coerce. I think, yes, you get

1477
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: Diddy on transporting quote unquote prostitutes across state lines so

1478
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: that is sex trafficking. I ain't gonna holding if you

1479
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: charge him with that. Say goodbye to the NFL, Say

1480
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: goodbye to the NBA, Say goodbye to every any and

1481
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: every fucking entertainer ever. Okay, say goodbye to the C

1482
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: suite level goddamn execs at all. Bro, what are we

1483
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: talking about? You feel me? And so for me, I

1484
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: think that that it's hard to stick. And like you

1485
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: talked about, we have a jury that consists of eight men.

1486
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: There is one niggle with just some mastaggy.

1487
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 4: The nigga who passed the notes once they blew up

1488
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 4: that about how he was questioning what the what Rico

1489
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 4: was said.

1490
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: That's paying attention to that.

1491
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: For we have one nigga on that jury. That is

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Speaker 1: like any of the motherfuckers has been in my comments

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. Baby did he walking free?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it'll go time served. And the crazy

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Speaker 1: part about it is, I think everybody a little freaking out.

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Speaker 1: I think he comes back out and starts making his

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Speaker 1: money the same way we still see in Shannon Sharp

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Speaker 1: all nightcap and interviewing all these celebrities that chose to

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Speaker 1: sit with him the same way We're like, there's still

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Speaker 1: just so many celebrities that are out free just living

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Speaker 1: life because guess what, especially when you create your own

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Speaker 1: ip M that mister Mormon didn't do. But when you're

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Speaker 1: out here creating your own IP, you create your lane

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Speaker 1: rock with you, and it is what it is. And

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Speaker 1: so I think the Ditty's going to be able to

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Speaker 1: kind of bounce back from this, and I hate that

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't know what he really did,

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