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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey P joe P Zapia,

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Speaker 1: and today we're gonna talk about, well, what's most important,

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Speaker 1: whether or not we're going to draft or pass on

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Speaker 1: certain players. And if you're watching on the YouTube, don't

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Speaker 1: adjust that color on your set. We're wearing our chubby

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Speaker 1: comfortable shirt that I've ever worn ever period. It's a

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Speaker 1: little loud, but then again, so am I, and so

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Speaker 1: To balance out the trouble and the base, here is

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Speaker 1: our Patty Cakes, Pat Fitzmorris. Pat, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you here on the program. I'm sorry that you're not

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Speaker 1: wearing your chubby shirt today, but I got to tell you,

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Speaker 2: I am insanely jealous and I was asking you guys, like, wait,

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Speaker 2: why didn't I get one? And apparently I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: that I had to actually give someone my team name

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Speaker 2: and size. I didn't realize that. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: on file. I was just going to be delivered right

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Speaker 2: to me. So to go back and do that, because

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Speaker 2: I am I'm very jealous right now.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just automatic that they would just

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Speaker 1: believe it worked with such a work diva here and

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Speaker 1: Pat fitz Morris just slack messages me nothing to him.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we got celebrities in here. We got Jerry O'Connell

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Speaker 3: just praising Debro, we got Pat fitz Morris, who is

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Speaker 3: the most beloved across the industry. I gotta be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, I'm not surprised that some of these guys

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Speaker 3: in the streets. By the way, I want to point

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Speaker 3: pat Man, you would look great in one of these

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Speaker 1: Too bad you didn't get us. Christmas is coming, Patty,

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Speaker 1: Christmas is coming. I know what to get my Patty

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Speaker 1: cakes this holiday season, and we know what to get

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Speaker 1: you this season because we're trying to get you a championship.

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Speaker 1: into it. So we're gonna play draft or pass. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go through some running backs, some wide receivers, tight end, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: different positions, different players here, and we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: whether or not we should be drafting or passing them.

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Speaker 1: See what the guy's opinions are, and maybe I'll chime

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Speaker 1: in to break a tie if need be. Let's start

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Speaker 1: here with Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey in July was going

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Speaker 1: around the what fourteenth player overall in Best Ball? And

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Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, that's a really intriguing value. I think

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Speaker 1: I could be in on Christian McCaffrey there well, real

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Speaker 1: time ADP on Fantasy Pros tells me now he is

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Speaker 1: the seventh player that number has been cut in half

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Speaker 1: in the preseason zero appearances for Christian McCaffrey. He's in

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Speaker 1: bubble wrap. Also, the San Francisco forty nine ers did

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Speaker 1: Isaac Grendo wasn't healthy and Brian Robinson is there now,

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Speaker 1: lot of potential flags here. Christian McCaffrey, the potential upside

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Speaker 1: is the best player in fantasy. We know that. We've

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Speaker 1: you a lot to get Christian McCaffrey. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with mister forty nine or in his chubby shirt

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Speaker 1: today draft or pass CMC at his current ADP.

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Speaker 3: Well, if it's not obvious, we're clearly gonna pass. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Oh, we're gonna draft now, of course,

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Speaker 3: I just fooled you. What are you talking about here?

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Speaker 3: Which Jaffrey. Yeah, no, we are going to draft Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: If I didn't draft in the shirt, it'd be disgusting.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, you kind of laid it out.

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Speaker 3: He usually the ultimate boom or bust pick. Twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: a struggle that I have sometimes. I've said this from

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more justification when you have

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Speaker 3: need to take a little bit more seriously. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey is healthy, it is Christian McCaffrey's team. In twenty

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Speaker 3: You know how many games he did not finish as

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Speaker 3: Debo Ayuk is hurt. The targets are there, the usage

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Speaker 3: He might be the safest first round pick there is

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Speaker 3: he is going to be an absolute monster in the team.

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Speaker 3: They've babied him. I don't think Brian Robinson's going to

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Speaker 3: tiny bit worried or I don't love that the cost

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Speaker 3: you're not first, your last type of situation, and this

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Speaker 3: he can be the number one overall player. So I'm

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Speaker 3: going to take some risk here when the running backs

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Speaker 1: Is a draft well, I mean you also, uh, and

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Speaker 1: on top of it, look, you're not wrong. We all

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Speaker 1: know how great Christian McCaffrey is. But the thing you

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Obviously he missed thirteen games. He played

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Speaker 1: the problem is Pat you know, at this time in

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Speaker 1: the real ADP as the seventh player. Overall, you're passing

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Speaker 1: on Derrick Henry, Justin Jefferson, I'm on Rossaint Brown. A

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Speaker 1: all or nothing. So is it draft or pass for you?

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Speaker 1: For CMC?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I guess I'm the tie breaker here with

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Speaker 1: No, pat, I'm a pass. I'm a pass at seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was into fourteen. I was curious at twelve, at

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Speaker 2: Oh you're a you're a known Christian McCaffrey souer post shoe,

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Speaker 2: so like it was always going to be me as

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Speaker 2: the tiebreaker here and look for me. He is a

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Speaker 2: reluctant draft and the injury risk is absolutely terrifying. And

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Speaker 2: I love Welsh. You know, well, he's actually the safest

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Speaker 4: But he actually, But.

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Speaker 3: There's guys we talk about production. I mean it cut

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, but like if you take away the

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Speaker 3: there might not be. There's two guys maybe three, that

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Speaker 3: he is out there, And of course the if is

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Speaker 3: why he's not being drafted as like the third guy,

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Speaker 3: like you know what he's gonna do. There's no production dip,

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Speaker 3: I said, but like injuries aside, his production is without question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's healthy, he's gonna smash. He always smashes

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Speaker 2: when he's healthy. And since the trade of the forty

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Speaker 2: nineteen point eight touches a game, one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 2: per game. Kyle Chanahan's system extremely running back friendly, and

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Speaker 2: he just he loves feeding CMC the ball, probably more

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Speaker 2: more than is wise, but like Shanahan just can't help himself.

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Speaker 2: So yes, the one thing I would say about the

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. I think you should be more willing to

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Speaker 2: I think the risk is more justifiable because you're gonna

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Speaker 2: need to hit on some You're going to need to

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Speaker 2: take some big swings to knock off the titans of

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Speaker 2: your league. So this is about as big a swing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shanahan loves to have the ball to McCaffrey except

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with a lead too soon Welsh

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Speaker 1: too soon? By the way, yes or no, just a

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played a lick of the preseason, Not one

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Speaker 1: o yota. All right, Let's move on to the next

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Speaker 1: running back on our list, Breeze Hall, who could find

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Speaker 1: himself in a time share, A guy that we were

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Speaker 1: coveting just a couple of years ago in fantasy, but

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Speaker 1: now rumors of a brayln Allen shared backfield have certainly stunted.

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Speaker 1: I think little bit of the love of bres Hall. Pat,

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Speaker 1: bres Hall at his current ADP right now, looking at

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Speaker 1: I get the real time numbers on fansy bros. He

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Speaker 1: is RB nineteen forty three overall pass.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn has said all off season that he wants

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Speaker 2: to use multiple backs, and based on the preseason, he

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Speaker 2: was not kidding about that because we have seen the

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Speaker 2: Jets use all three backs with the starters, so you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think we should heed the preseason because they're

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Speaker 2: establishing usage patterns that they're going to follow in the

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Speaker 2: regular season, and Jets are going to have a low

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Speaker 2: scoring offense, and like, I know Breshall is a good

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Speaker 2: pass catcher, and like they're just not going to throw

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Speaker 2: averaged like twenty four and a half pass attempts per game.

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Speaker 2: So there's just not a lot here for bres Hall

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Speaker 2: if he's not playing a ton of SnO and he's

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Speaker 3: as a top fifteen RB in half PPR. Only six

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Speaker 1: Well, so far, the fearmongering hasn't changed too much. He's

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Speaker 1: Let's get to a rookie running back who is actually

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Speaker 3: I felt a couple different scenarios that you could play out,

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Speaker 3: We are back in so we are three state drafts here.

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Speaker 3: The worry would clearly be that there's you know, rotational

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Speaker 4: The thing is is J.

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Speaker 3: Harvey is explosive. He is explosive as can be, incredible

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Speaker 1: Harvey.

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Speaker 3: You're getting Dobbins in. Dobbins is going to vulture in

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Speaker 1: RJ. Harvey.

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Speaker 3: He is too much of a playmaker for this offense.

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Speaker 3: And I think around this cost area, the Arby you

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Speaker 3: a draft on RJ. Harvey, all of us making our

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Speaker 1: Will Patkins not speak for Pat quite?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Pat RJ. Harvey draft or pass draft.

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Speaker 4: I'll never get him as high in the rankings as

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Speaker 4: Debro has him. But look Denver will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah never fess not gonna happen. Denver was among the

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Speaker 2: this year, and while Harvey did not go in the

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Speaker 2: first round like Ashton Genty or O'marion Hampton, he was

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Speaker 2: the Broncos second round pick. Like they tabbed him to

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Speaker 4: Dobbins.

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton has a history of giving us two or

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Speaker 2: like think about the Alvin Kamara mark Ingram combination, or

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Speaker 2: Payton's running backs catch a lot of passes.

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Speaker 4: Harvey's a good pass catcher. The dude is explosive.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was a second rounder because he's quick,

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Speaker 4: He is worth drafting.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't have to break the tie, but just

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Speaker 1: so you know, I'm drafting him as well. So three

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Speaker 1: You know, new things are very scary sometimes. But Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton offenses, I think that's something you want to do.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is there to shave like one hundred carries off

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, the thing I wanted to add is

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Speaker 3: Harvey actually might become a really accessible trade asset in

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Speaker 3: I just like I said, he is way too explosive.

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Speaker 3: I think that's going to rectify pretty quick, if not

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes a good value. How about a player that

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Speaker 1: get it, and you don't like to draft players who

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Speaker 1: are already hurt. But at what point, Pat, do we say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: are aggressively still drafting. Rushie Rice more on him later

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Speaker 1: in the show, even though he's gonna miss six games.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand one's healthy, one is not, but still

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Speaker 2: Pass and it would have to fall into the late

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Speaker 2: rounds for me to have any interest whatsoever. A foot issue,

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Speaker 2: no bueno, it's possible. We don't see Joe Mixon this

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Speaker 2: see him, he's going to be running behind a really

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Speaker 1: All right, So no, for Pat Morris Welsh, how about

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Speaker 3: U zero, This is a hard pass. I have absolutely

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Speaker 3: no interest. You could argue, if he like his week

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Speaker 3: my team. But drafting a guy with like it's almost

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Speaker 3: mystery injury. We thank god we got information, but he

431
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 3: was already on my no draft list, because you know,

432
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Speaker 3: it's one thing to make these arguments about, you know,

433
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Speaker 3: the Christian mccaffreyes who have an injury history but are

434
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Speaker 3: good right now. It's another thing to be drafting players

435
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Speaker 3: that are currently on a on the list and going

436
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Speaker 3: to miss significant time. That also is more of a mystery.

437
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Speaker 3: So no, I really don't have interests. I think they

438
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 3: brought in Nick Chubb for a very specific reason. What

439
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 3: he marks looks pretty nice. I don't think they're going

440
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 3: to rush him back. The four weeks to me in

441
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 3: a snap could turn into eight weeks and then could

442
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Speaker 3: turn into him not coming back at all this season.

443
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Speaker 3: You know him from a production standpoint in general, like,

444
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 3: it did look good outside of the back end of

445
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Speaker 3: the year, but there's there's no risk reward here for

446
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 3: me on Joe Mixon. I don't think I'm gonna come

447
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 3: out the other side feeling really great about it. And frankly,

448
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: I'll bet you Joe Mixon is just going to get

449
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 3: cut really early, especially if you have a couple backs

450
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Speaker 3: that just pop in the first week on waivers. People

451
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: are gonna just be like, you know what, I just

452
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 3: don't even need to do this. So I have no

453
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Speaker 3: interest in Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 1: Hard pass all right, the boys are passing, I'm gonna

455
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 1: draft them late. It's got to be post one hundred

456
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of where Pat's talking about, maybe even more. And

457
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Speaker 1: that's where it's going and that's where it's trending. And

458
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: it is a little mysterious, right. Some people call it

459
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Speaker 1: a foot issue, some people calling an ankle issue. Which

460
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Speaker 1: one is it?

461
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Speaker 5: Why?

462
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: Why won't anyone tell us anything in the NFL anymore?

463
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: Can somebody tell me? Screw the forty nine ers, screw

464
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: the Texans, tell me the truth. Just tell us the truth.

465
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: But there's money involved here.

466
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Speaker 3: You can't handle the truth.

467
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Speaker 1: Well, that was draft court yesterday. Go back and watching

468
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. But there's money in signing bonus at

469
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Speaker 1: risk here. And if I know one thing about NFL players,

470
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: they like to get paid. So I do expect Joe

471
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: Mixon to be back in the four week window here

472
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Speaker 1: when he returns. What it's going to look like, I

473
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: don't know, but I do say when you start to

474
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: dig a little deeper into this Joe Mixon scenario, there's

475
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Speaker 1: money involved in terms of bonus, in terms of time

476
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss. That could be an issue here for him.

477
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: If he doesn't play the number of games. It's something

478
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Speaker 1: like seven million dollars could be on the line for him,

479
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money. It's a lot of money here

480
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Speaker 1: for Joe Mixon. So I expect Joe Mixon back, And

481
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're overreacting. We should all react accordingly

482
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: to running backs with lower leg or foot or ankle

483
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Speaker 1: or whatever the hell is injury is that issue. But

484
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Speaker 1: don't forget about the money. At the end of the day,

485
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: these guys will push through certain things to get paid.

486
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Speaker 1: What it looks like, I don't know, but we shall

487
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: see one more running back. I want to talk about

488
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Speaker 1: real quick, actually running back group. The Washington Commanders JA,

489
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Speaker 1: Cory Krossky, Merritt, Chris Rodriguez, Austin Eckler, I think is

490
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Speaker 1: a giant committee. And I think anyone who's looking at

491
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Speaker 1: this is lying to you if they say they have

492
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Speaker 1: got the secret sauce. Now all these guys are going

493
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Speaker 1: at late ADPs. Ardriguez is kind off the chart. Really,

494
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Speaker 1: it's Eckler and Crosskey Merit. So well, El, we'll start

495
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: with you on this one draft or passed anybody in

496
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Speaker 1: the Washington commander backfield at their ADP.

497
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Speaker 3: I am going to pass on this, and maybe that

498
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: would be a little bit of a surprise. I think

499
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, obviously there was less clarity with it.

500
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Speaker 3: But like when Eckler was going into the late forties

501
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 3: or fifties or whatever, Krosky was obviously going like outside

502
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: the top fifties, there was there was more upside. And

503
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Speaker 3: then when the initial conversations around you know, like Brian

504
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: Robinson was going to get traded, there were still really

505
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: good values. But now that it has been solidified, I

506
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 3: think the values have jumped up a little too much.

507
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: You see Eckler going high into the thirties. We've seen

508
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Speaker 3: Bill Krofsky Merrit going to like the seventh rounds, some

509
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Speaker 3: people posting around the fifth round. I think it's gone

510
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: too crazy, and I think there is too much of

511
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Speaker 3: a committee here. I took a look at their carries

512
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Speaker 3: last year. You had three hundred and forty if you

513
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 3: just based it off last year, three hundred and forty

514
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: non quarterback carries last year, because don't forget Jane Daniels

515
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: is a really important part of this. So you had

516
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Speaker 3: three hundred and forty non quarterback carries one hundred and

517
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Speaker 3: eighty seven win to Brian Robinson. Eckler had around seventy seven.

518
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Speaker 3: So let's call it like two seventy that's left over,

519
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: which seems like a lot. But you've also got Debo

520
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: and Chris Rodriguez. Deebo's going to get carries in this offense.

521
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Speaker 3: He's gonna be annoying, especially when everyone's like, oh, here

522
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Speaker 3: comes my Bill Krosky and the five you know, red

523
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Speaker 3: zone touchdown. Nope, it's gonna go to Deebo. Debol's gonna

524
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Speaker 3: get some carries. Chris Rodriguez is going to get some carries.

525
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Speaker 3: So if you start to play that game, I think

526
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Speaker 3: Bill Krosky's probably sitting around like the one twenty five

527
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Speaker 3: to one seventy five carry range. It doesn't make him

528
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Speaker 3: not valuable, it just doesn't make sense. I think for

529
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Speaker 3: where his ADP is going. These ADPs on both of

530
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Speaker 3: these players have gone too high in full PPR. I

531
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Speaker 3: do have interest in Eckler if I'm in a really

532
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: deep league. Chris Rodriguez is kind of a fun shot.

533
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Speaker 3: It's so hard to get Bill Krosky right now. But

534
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Speaker 3: I think it is messy with one of the best

535
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Speaker 3: rushing quarterbacks in the NFL right now, and I just

536
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: don't think there's gonna be enough carries to go around

537
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: to justify flex based drafting of most of these guys.

538
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Speaker 3: So as a whole I'm gonna pass.

539
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Speaker 2: Pat pass or draft pass on Bill, draft Eckler, draft Rodriguez.

540
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: Bill is just so we know he is not going

541
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Speaker 2: to get the high value touches. The pass receptions and

542
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: the short yardage work.

543
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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn has come out and said.

544
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Speaker 2: They're going to give the short yardage work to Chris Rodriguez,

545
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Speaker 2: and we know Eckler is going to be the pass

546
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Speaker 2: catching back, and as Welsh said, Jane Daniels is going

547
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: to get a ton of rushing yardage. And oh, by

548
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: the way, Deebo Samuel is around to get the occasional

549
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: rushing attempt. So I just don't see Bill having enough

550
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Speaker 2: value to generate, Like he's not going to live up

551
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: to the mania that we're seeing with him right now,

552
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: whereas Eckler, I think is probably going to lead this

553
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Speaker 2: backfield in snaps and maybe touches too, and like is

554
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: really easily draftable, like in the mid to late thirties

555
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Speaker 2: at running back.

556
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Speaker 4: So I've been getting him a lot.

557
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Speaker 2: And then Chris Rodriguez is like an end of the

558
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Speaker 2: draft dart throw that I'm happy to take if I

559
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Speaker 2: don't already have Eckler.

560
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Speaker 1: All right, some sound advice there from the boys regarding

561
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Speaker 1: the Washington Commander's backfield, I am in agreement. Before we

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Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, let's take a look at the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers and we're gonna play little draft or pass with

596
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Speaker 1: these guys. Let's start with a big dog, Tyreek Hill.

597
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Speaker 1: Not that long ago, Tyreek Hill was in that discussion

598
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Speaker 1: for the number one overall player. But unfortunately, some injuries

599
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: and the mess that is the Miami Dolphins have kind

600
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: of well slowed everybody's love a little bit of Tyreek Hill.

601
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Speaker 1: He's a little other year older the average ADP right

602
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Speaker 1: now is somewhere on the three thirty seventh player off the

603
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Speaker 1: board looking at the real time ADP, and that's an

604
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: interesting value wide receiver fifteen for a player that still

605
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: has the upside of a guy much much higher drafted

606
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Speaker 1: than that, coming off back to back years of explosive,

607
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: enormous seasons and then one disappointing year. Let me start

608
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Speaker 1: with you, Pat on this one Tyreek Hill draft or

609
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Speaker 1: pass in twenty twenty five, and mind you you are

610
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Speaker 1: getting a discount.

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00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: I'll pass.

612
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: I've been on the fence, but the vibes just have

613
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: not been great between Tyreek Hill and the team. And like,

614
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Miami passing game is anymore, Joe.

615
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: Like we saw we saw Mike McDaniel, you know, direct

616
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: his production of Honey. I shrunk the passing game last

617
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: year with like twa tongue Iiloa having like an average

618
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: depth of throw of under six yards and everything going

619
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Speaker 2: to Devon Achen and John hu Smith and like Waddle

620
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill getting totally left out of the mix.

621
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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill has had, like I don't know, some egregious

622
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: drops in the last year. It's just I don't now

623
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: he's in his thirties. It's just too many things to

624
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: worry about here. What if Tua gets hurt again, I'm

625
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: just gonna pass. There's still other players I really like

626
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: in that part of the draft, and there's too many

627
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: questions with Tyreek.

628
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Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna draft him pat and the reason is

629
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Speaker 1: because he's going almost as the fortieth player. There's been

630
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: leagues where he's my third wide receiver, like if you're

631
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: drafting from the one spot. We've done a lot of

632
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: mock drafts where I take Chase and then in the

633
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, second third round, I get some guys and

634
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: sometimes Tyreek Kill will even make it back to like

635
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: the fourth round, And how do I pass on them

636
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: if my third wide receiver? And well, I don't know

637
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: where you are, but you made a case for the

638
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: gloriousness of Christian McCaffrey, but he costs you the seventh player. Overall,

639
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: there's a potential that, you know, you could have Tyreek

640
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Hill and he could end up being a top five player. Again,

641
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who not once but twice

642
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred yards in this offense over those two years,

643
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns right and last year. Yeah, wide receiver twenty one.

644
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: It was disappointing. He was also injured a lot at

645
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: a couple different issues and ailments. Yeah, he is a

646
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: problem child. Yeah, Miami is a hot mess, but Welsh,

647
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: it is a discount. Can you pass on that draft

648
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: or pass Tyreek Hill? I can.

649
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a pretty firm pass on Tyreek Hill. He's

650
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: on my I mean, well, hell, you laid it out.

651
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: I suppose if he was a wide receiver three, I

652
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: can play that game. But I really haven't been in

653
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: that position. I mean, if you look at our ADPs currently,

654
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: he's actually the twelfth wide receiver on the consensus ADP.

655
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Real time has moved him down a little bit to fifteen,

656
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: but he's going to be pushed up there.

657
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, I mean a roster construction. I'm

658
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: an early wide receiver builder. So if he's going as

659
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: a thirty seventh guy, and I've got a top you know,

660
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: two or three pick here, I can get Chase or

661
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb or somebody like that. I can turn around

662
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: and take a you know, a lad McConkie, and then

663
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the third round, Tyreek Hill is just sitting there basically

664
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: in that early ADP, and I can go three wide

665
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: outs right away. It's a zero RB kind of build,

666
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: but it's possible. I just want to make sure I'm

667
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: not drafting him as a third wide receiver in the ADP.

668
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a roster construction. Standpoint go ahead, Yeah,

669
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: I know.

670
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: And that's like the layout like you've done a lot

671
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: of like fourth and fifth round running backs. It was

672
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: a lot more palatable too when like Hampton and Trevan

673
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: Henderson were going later they're now not, so like that's

674
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: an area where I think you're kind of making those decisions.

675
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: One of the distinctions I would put against McCaffrey and

676
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill is we have seen Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill's

677
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: production go down last year. That's not I mean, I

678
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: guess you can make some of the arguments on McCaffrey,

679
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: but like he was heavily, heavily tied to Tua. As

680
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: we saw Tua and his air yards drop, that had

681
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: a very direct effect to Tyreek Hill. Now in his favor,

682
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: he had like a massive increase in his areas around

683
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: like thirteen hundred versus the just under thousand that he

684
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: put up. But he's also already dealing with an oblique issue.

685
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: So thirty one years old, you've already got some oblique stuff.

686
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: You saw some production that was a downtick last year.

687
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: You can make the arguments that with John Hu out,

688
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: this could open up more opportunities, but like they didn't.

689
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: It was a ten percent design plays they ran for

690
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill last year, which I thought was weird, And

691
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: maybe maybe they'll change. I just don't feel optimistic about it.

692
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Eleven games he had finished wide receiver thirty or worse

693
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: last year. I'm a Jayden, I'm a Wattle guy. I

694
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: think Jayleen Wattle is going to be the guy that's

695
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: gonna beig have the big bounce. I think Oli Gordon's

696
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: gonna move in this offense more. We'd like to pass

697
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: the ball to a chan who's kind of almost becomes

698
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: like a super number one wide receiver. So the whole

699
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: John O leaving to me doesn't correlate to Tyreek Hill

700
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: getting a big increase. I think it's a possibility, with

701
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: the upside that we know of Tyreek Hill that he

702
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: could kind of be a value, But I think where

703
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: ADPs are, where he's essentially a wide receiver one oblique

704
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: issue already out there Tua in general having such an

705
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: effect on him, he's a pass for me. I don't

706
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: want a lot of shares. I don't have a lot

707
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: of shares because I also don't my builds don't necessarily

708
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: go three straight wide receiver. I might feel a little

709
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: bit different if.

710
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: I was in that spot, but I'm with Pat and

711
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: to your point, I don't think I would want him

712
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: as my number one wide receiver. If you're a heavy

713
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: RB guy in the third round there you're looking now

714
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: at tyreek Hill being your number one. No, that's that's

715
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow. Let's talk about Ted McMillan

716
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: so you can get on the same page with this one.

717
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: Teed McMillan, look number one wide receiver for me in

718
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: this draft class, that's for sure. Wide receiver twenty six

719
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: overall and really dps actually moving up the boards three

720
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: spots in the last seven days, all the way up

721
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: to fifty nine overall. So Welsh, are we drafting or

722
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: passing Teto and McMillan.

723
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: We are drafting. Give me tetroh A McMillan one hundred percent.

724
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: The news that we had today as we were recording this,

725
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: Adam thelen is officially out of town. You could do

726
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: it like both ways where you could be like, oh,

727
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: this is huge, you know, because theling's going to get

728
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: the target share. I think some people could also just

729
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: roll their eyes be like, oh, there's too many guys.

730
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Does it really matter?

731
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: I think it does.

732
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Deling was a really big safety blanket, so

733
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: that's like a plus for Jalen Kocher as well going

734
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: into the slot. But I think it's just another huge boost.

735
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: And I think it's also the team teams confidence level

736
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: being shown as well, that they're willing to give that

737
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: type of a consistent player. They're still trying to build

738
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: up Bryce Young in that they are comfortable because of

739
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: what Tetroha has done. I mean the college grades through

740
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: the roof, like ninety plus PFF college grades almost seventeen

741
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: yards per reception, thirteen hundred yards last year, great success

742
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: rate versus press, which I get really excited about. He's

743
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: going to find just really good points of separation against

744
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: cornerbacks as a rookie and he's going to get tons

745
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: of targets. And Bryce Young, by the way, started to

746
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: cook at the end of the year, finished just QB

747
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: two from weeks sixteen to eighteen had seven touchdown no picks.

748
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: He was actually running a lot as well. But I

749
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: think Tetro is put in a position where he could

750
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: be a slam wide receiver one this year. It's funny

751
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: because I feel like there's Marvin Harrison last year vibes,

752
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: but he was going as a wide receiver one. And

753
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: I think Tedrow is in a better spot this year

754
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: that he's going to be, as Bogwin would say, peppered

755
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: with targets, and I think he could live up to

756
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: what we wanted Marvin to be last year, and he's

757
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: coming at a not as lower of a cost because

758
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: he continues to rise. But I love Tetoroa as a

759
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: wide receiver three. He's probably going to have to be

760
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: comfortable as a wide receiver two, and I'm down with it.

761
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat, A lot of this is about projecting next year. Two.

762
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Then I think we're gonna be looking at McMillan probably

763
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: as a top fifteen wide receiver, So I'm comfortable drafting

764
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: him as the ADP continues to rise all the way

765
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: up until twenty, maybe even up until fifteen. To be

766
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: honest with you, like I'm willing to take that risk.

767
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I think he's this year's Brian Thomas junior, the guy

768
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: that people aren't really on enough that is going to

769
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: help you win a fantasy league. Where are you? Are

770
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: you draft or pass at the ADP that is climbing

771
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: currently for Tedro McMillan.

772
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more with you, guys. I have him wide

773
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: receiver sixteen here you got my rankings like he steps

774
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: in new a high volume roll right away as the

775
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: day one X receiver, top target earner for Bryce Young

776
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Panthers are probably gonna have to throw quite a bit

777
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: because their defense does not look very good on paper.

778
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: And not only are they going to throw to them

779
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: a lot period, they're probably going to throw to them

780
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: a lot in the end zone because he's six foot

781
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: five and has a huge wingspan, so good touchdown potential here.

782
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: Dude runs good routes. Like wild said, he's great against

783
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: press coverage. She averaged one hundred and eight point eight

784
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: yards per game over his final two college seasons, and

785
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: he was a top ten draft pick like this one

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Speaker 1: There you go, easypas, Let's get to the next wide

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Speaker 1: receiver here on our list to discuss to draft her pass. Well,

815
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: it's another grouping. Well, Rushie Rice was the other part

816
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: of the news, not just Adam Thielintay Rushi Rice taking

817
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: the six game suspension. So now we know the waiting

818
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: game is over and now we're gonna watch that ADP

819
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: fall in real time because it is going to make

820
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: a difference this weekend. You watch, he is going to

821
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: fall from that seventy five overall and then I'm looking

822
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: at on Fantasy Pros he actually was down only two spots.

823
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: I think we're going to go more like double digits

824
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: by the time we get to Saturday or Sunday drafting.

825
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: So Pat, let's talk about Rice. Let's talk about worthy

826
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: of the current ADP and where they're going to be fluctuating.

827
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Do you want to be involved? It's going to like

828
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: the commander situation, right, this is more of a choose

829
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: your path. Here are you drafting or passing these guys

830
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: in the Kansas City wide receiver room.

831
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: This is my first qualified answer. I'm going to say

832
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: draft at appropriate prices.

833
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: So what's that actor, let's talk about it.

834
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: So I just got Rashid Rice in the ninth round

835
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: of a homely draft last weekend. I think that's pretty decent, Like, yes,

836
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: he's going to miss six games, but then you're going

837
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: to have him for the back half of the season,

838
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: the fantasy playoffs.

839
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: Like that's pretty good.

840
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: Although I don't think Rice is going to give you

841
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: the sort of production he did early last year when

842
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy had not established himself. Because Xavier Worthy did

843
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: come on late last year. Over the Chiefs last eight games,

844
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: including the playoffs, he had fifty catches. That's a one

845
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: hundred catch pace. But he's not catching one hundred bulls

846
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: with Rice around. Rice is not catching one hundred bulls

847
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: with Worthy around. I think they can both be like

848
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Rice when he plays is probably a wide

849
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: receiver two, and Worthy is probably a wide receiver three

850
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: all year, maybe a wide receiver two while Rice is

851
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: out so don't overpay. If you pay something appropriate for

852
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 2: what those guys are going to be when they play,

853
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: then I think it's okay. Because I do think now

854
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes's weaponry, and now that he's got Josh Simmons,

855
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: who's a stud guarding his blind side at left tackle,

856
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: I do think the Chiefs passing game is going to

857
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: click again this year.

858
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: All right back to you here, Welsh drafter pass, Rice Worthy,

859
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: any of these guys in the wide receiver room for

860
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

861
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: This is a tough one. I mean, if I get

862
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: to do the thing that Pat's doing, I'm gonna kind

863
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: of agree, Like, I think there's caveats to it at

864
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: right costs. I think if we just play the game,

865
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to just say pass as a

866
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: general statement, but I would put caveats to it. The

867
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: one thing I think that's goofy about this is like,

868
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm shocked that everyone was so comfortable taking him where

869
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: he was prior the real ADP. Prior to the real ADP,

870
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: he was going off his wide receiver twenty seven and

871
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: he's now moved down to thirty two, and you're like, oh,

872
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: people are going to drop Why I had him in

873
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: the forties right now. I thought, I think eight games

874
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: was on the table, and if they drop that on

875
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: you in week three or four and you lose significant time,

876
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: that was a no draft for me. So I actually

877
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: think this is a positive. Please suspend him at the

878
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 3: top of the year, give him just six games. Maybe

879
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: he pushes it down to five, and then I've got

880
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: him the rest of the way through in a time

881
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: where you know it's a little bit more recovery. I

882
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: actually think that gives a much clearer path to Rashi

883
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: Rice to now. I think he becomes kind of draftable.

884
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: So you know, if I can get rice at, I

885
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: mean you should. You should probably value him in the

886
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: same general vicinity as like a Chris Godwin. You know,

887
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: Radwan just got like passes physical, but you know you're

888
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: probably gonna have pup in four games. It's the same

889
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: general sense. But I think like he I believe he's

890
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: going to get back to that big production. As much

891
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: as you know we like Xavier Worthy. He hit a

892
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: lot of nice design runs, but you know, low yards

893
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: after the catch, like I know, like Adak can get

894
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: up there. But I think you're gonna have a lot

895
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: of short design stuff where it's gonna be middle of

896
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: the field Kelsey and first target Rashi Rice. That was

897
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: what they established last year and I don't think they're

898
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: gonna move away from it. So all of this to

899
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: be said, like, I don't love this for Worthy, and

900
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: I think he's too expensive right now with these question marks.

901
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 3: I think Rice at the current value still doesn't make sense.

902
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: So that's why they're both going to be passes. But

903
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: my caveat would be Rice at the right price as

904
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: he continues to fall as like a wide receiver five

905
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: or something, is like something I will definitely do with

906
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: the clarity.

907
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a pass here. I'm gonna keep it

908
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: simple and tell you why, because Rushie Rice needs to

909
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: drop away further. He's missing six games. That's almost half

910
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: of your regular fantasy season. That's all a long time

911
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: for a player to miss. And I think the inverse

912
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: is that Xavier Worthy's ADP, which I already don't love,

913
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: is gonna move up because people are gonna look at

914
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: it and say Rice is out. That means Worthy xyz

915
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes that could be a little overrated. Sometimes.

916
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I know we saw the end of the season Worthy

917
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: start to take up a little bit, but there's no

918
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: guarantees here that that's gonna be the case and it's

919
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: going to carry over. So for me, one going not

920
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: far enough, one gonna go too far. I'm out at

921
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: that current value. More wide receivers to talk about, but

922
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926
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927
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928
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931
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937
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939
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942
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943
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944
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945
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947
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948
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949
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
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950
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951
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely love it.

952
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953
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954
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962
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964
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,879
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965
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,080
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966
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968
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Speaker 1: on the airline. Not gonna lie. All right, Let's get

969
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: to Drafter pass this next wide receiver, Travis Hunter. Now

970
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to be the number one in Jacksonville.

971
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a two way player, or at least

972
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: partial two way player. So it's a little bit more

973
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: risk here when you're playing more snaps here, route running

974
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: is a little bit in question. Welsh, I'll keep this

975
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: one simple. I'm not drafting Travis Hunter at his current ADP.

976
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: He is going way too close to Piersoll, to Golden

977
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: to Egbuka, all those three wide receivers I like more

978
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: in their respective situations. I think they could carve out

979
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: those roles as the number one guy in their offense

980
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Pearsol has that route, Golden does. Eguka

981
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: would take an in, but still at least the number

982
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: two of Baker Mayfield is a pretty good spot to

983
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: be even open the season. Travis Hunter, I just can't

984
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: get there at the current ADP. Can you get there?

985
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Draft or pass? Travis Hunter? Welsh?

986
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: I can I am a draft now. I will say,

987
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: based on the names that you just said, like I

988
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: got Ricky Piersol way higher. I have him higher than Hunter.

989
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: That's where he's going in real time. ADB He's right there.

990
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean according to ADP, Egbuka and Ricky

991
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: Pirisol are below Travis Hunter. I have both of those

992
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: players over. I'm just saying based on that rank, I

993
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: get what you're saying on those players, but I also

994
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: think like him post thirty right now makes a lot

995
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: of sense. A lot has been made about the production

996
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: of slot receivers in Liam Cohen's offense. So just to

997
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: point out, twenty twenty two, get around twenty five points

998
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: from Cooper Cup, Chris Godwin put up twenty plus, and

999
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: that looks like the role that we're going to see

1000
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter in. It has also been stated that he

1001
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: is a full time wide receiver and a part time cornerback.

1002
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: That's been a big discussion. Pat and I have done

1003
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: like a gajillion shows as of recent you know, over

1004
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: the last couple of months, where like, that's the big

1005
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: question that I think a lot of people are struggling with.

1006
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: And it looks like he's going to be a full

1007
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: time wide receiver. If you look at like Matt Harmon's

1008
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: route tree stuff, he's actually a pretty big winner kind

1009
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: of across the board. However they want to end up

1010
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: using him and the projections are kind of wild in

1011
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: the market. I have seen a very reputable place project

1012
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: over eighty catches, which would be around the twenty most

1013
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: receptions for a wide receiver in the NFL. I think

1014
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: this offense is going to feature him running out of

1015
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: the Slot's going to be a good spot. You can

1016
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: have your arguments about if Trevor Lawrence stinks or not,

1017
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: but I think they're going to be passing the ball

1018
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: a decent amount. He's the ball is going to get

1019
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: in his hands and he's going to be a big

1020
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: playmaker and you know, like I come back to that

1021
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: route running. However, they end up wanting to use him,

1022
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: whether it's going to be across the field or not.

1023
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: When the big plays aren't there for Brian Thomas, it's

1024
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: going to be there for Travis Hunter. And I think

1025
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: he is going to be out there way more than

1026
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: people are expecting because I still see the arguments, Well,

1027
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: if he's a sixty percent snap guy, I think the

1028
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: snap percentages and offense are going to be way up

1029
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: and we'll be talking about him. So for a wide

1030
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 3: receiver of that talent to be going outside the top thirty,

1031
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: especially when we're talking about Tedoa McMillan, I think those

1032
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: guys might be a lot closer than you expect. This

1033
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 3: offense and this coaching staff breeds to players like him

1034
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: in that slot, and I think Travis Hunter is still

1035
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: a smash draft.

1036
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Pat break the tie Travis Hunter draft or pass.

1037
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Well, she said they're going to feature him. You know,

1038
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: there's this guy named Brian Thomas Junior. He's really good

1039
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: at football.

1040
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: He's a pretty good player.

1041
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm going to fade the feature thing.

1042
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass on Travis Hunter, and I do

1043
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: have a fear of missing out, largely because he's going

1044
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: to play that slot role, which we saw be really

1045
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: valuable in Liam Cohen's offense last year. But yes, they

1046
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: say he's going to be mostly offense, and Liam Cohen

1047
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: is saying it's going to be like an eighty percent

1048
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: snapchare for him. But like, I don't want to assume

1049
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: that's locked in, Like they could adjust the dials on

1050
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: the offensive in defensive usage as the season goes on.

1051
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, the Jaguars cornerbacks not very good,

1052
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: not very good, and they've got the Bengals on the schedule.

1053
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna want to leave Travis Hunt

1054
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: on the bench when t Higgins and Jamar Chase are

1055
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: running wild on them? Like, I just I have concerns

1056
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: about that, Like they might shift that a little bit

1057
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: in season. So it's a reluctance pass for me on

1058
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter.

1059
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pass at the current group around him

1060
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: for me. I think this is what was Like, I

1061
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: love the player. I love Travis Hunter. I loved him

1062
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: in college. Super fun, very talented young man, great guy.

1063
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: Love to reformim. But again, the ADP that's where my

1064
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: problem is. Let's switch gears, gentlemen, and let's wrap things

1065
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: out with a lightning round here. Okay, we're gonna go

1066
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: through draft or pass. I'm gonna give you some quarterbacks,

1067
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: some tight ends, and some wide receiver rooms currently and

1068
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: you tell me draft or pass. All right, everybody got

1069
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Speaker 1: their hands on their buzzers. Let's play lightning round, draft

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Speaker 1: or pass. Let's start with Rams wide receivers at the

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Speaker 1: current ADP fits. The bacchiotomy has not happened yet for

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. We'll see after the season if he has

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Speaker 1: that surgery. Drafter pass the Rams wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Oh pass, I worry about mutual cannon with Puka and

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Speaker 2: DeVante and the back issues.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Welsh Drafter passed the Rams wide receiver room.

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Speaker 3: Even Jimmy Garoppolo couldn't screw it up. Those wide receivers

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Speaker 3: are way way too talented. I am going to draft

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Speaker 3: Puka becomes a little bit Tougherdante Adams keeps kind of

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Speaker 3: sliding in drafts. Way too talented. There's gonna be tons

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Speaker 3: of volume regardless of who that quarterback is or back theotomies.

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Speaker 3: Even though I don't want Jimmy Garoppolo or Bennett. But

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say draft.

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Speaker 1: Pooka and Akouba by the way, sliding all the way

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Speaker 1: to seventeen overall, that's where I'm I'm looking for that

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Speaker 1: discount today in a draft. So I'm going to draft

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Speaker 1: because now I'm getting a discount and I like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Saints wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: Hard pass for me, Rattler shuck doesn't matter. Olave massive

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Speaker 1: concussion issues. I'm just worried about that kid. I'm a

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Speaker 1: hard pass Welsh. Where are you for the Saints wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room?

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Speaker 3: I think it's a draft. They're all just so low.

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Speaker 3: I mean the first wide receiver O Lave checks in

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Speaker 3: at like wide receiver thirty four and a half PPR.

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Speaker 3: There definitely are some concerns and some worries, but a

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Speaker 3: Lave is a pretty easy slide in at like wide

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Speaker 3: receiver four. That defense is going to be bad, that

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Speaker 3: offense might the worry would be too bad, but there's

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Speaker 3: going to just be volume to these players. Rashidha heats

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting. Veley as the slot I kind of like,

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Speaker 3: but this is really built around a Lave being too

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Speaker 3: much of a value. So I'm gonna say, draft.

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Speaker 1: All right, FITZI, Drafter pass the Saints draft O Lave.

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Speaker 2: Even the worst passing offenses in the NFL usually give

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Speaker 2: us around three thousand passing yards all Lave has averaged

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Speaker 2: two point two one yards per out run for his career.

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Speaker 2: That's up with CD Lamb and Jamar Chase, Like he

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Speaker 2: is really really good and really undervalued.

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Speaker 1: All right? How about justin fields? Does always look pretty Pat,

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Speaker 1: but it's fantasy points. Not the greatest thrower necessarily all

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Speaker 1: the time in the pocket, but fantasy points, Galower, Drafter

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Speaker 1: pass justin fields, Pat.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pass. I just think the passing outlook

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00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: is so bleak here. I know he's gonna run, and

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Speaker 2: then like there's double injury risk, Joe, because not only

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Speaker 2: could Field get hurt, what if Garrett Wilson gets hurt?

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Speaker 2: What would draft Kings and FANDU will be setting the

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Speaker 2: over under number at on Field's passing yardage if Garrett

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Speaker 2: Wilson didn't play in a game like ninety nine and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just bleak.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, how could you say something for the

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Speaker 1: Jets will go wrong? Pat? That seems like a crazy

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Speaker 1: thing to say it out loud. Welsh draft pass justin

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Speaker 1: fields draft.

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Speaker 3: You're not drafting him for his passing acumenty. You want

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Speaker 3: him for the rushing. He was QB seven last year

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Speaker 3: in fantasy points over six games twenty twenty two. We've

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Speaker 3: talked about it. QB six, better offensive line, better pieces

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Speaker 3: out there. The rushing upside makes him a top ten

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Speaker 3: quarterback draft.

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Speaker 1: QB fourteen and super Flex. Yeah, I'll draft him there.

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Speaker 1: I like him as a second quarterback in super flex leagues.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Drake May. Oh, the hype

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Speaker 1: train is real for Drake May. I'm wearing a Patriots shirt,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna sit this one out for a while.

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Speaker 1: I'll see what the boys have to say first draft

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Speaker 1: or pass. Drake May getting a lot of helium recently

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Speaker 1: in a lot of our discussions on the show's Welsh.

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Speaker 3: You know what I actually wanted to say, But his

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00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: value is too good. I think Drake May is fun.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's built around. If you

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00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: can see more design stuff for him to run, there's

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Speaker 3: more upside. But I kind of think he's going to

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Speaker 3: stick around like QB between QB ten and fourteen this year.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to crack that top five,

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Speaker 3: but his value is too good. He's QB sixteen on

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Speaker 3: a ADP. So even though I don't see his quite

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Speaker 3: as much upside, I think he got a draft him

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00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: because that value he has not gotten. He doesn't risen

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Speaker 3: up because of all the buzz and hype.

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Speaker 1: Pat in real time ADP, he's QB thirteen. We just

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Speaker 1: did draft court yesterday where I said a perfect scenario

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Speaker 1: late round Dak Prescott and then back it up just

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Speaker 1: in case with Drake May. I did that last night

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Speaker 1: in a draft. I think that's a good practice. What

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 4: Draft?

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Speaker 2: Drake May is my QB eight. I think he could

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00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 2: give you rushing numbers very similar to what Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not quite what Fields is going to give you,

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Speaker 2: but he is a vastly superior passer to Justin Fields.

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Speaker 4: All right, he just got engaged.

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Speaker 1: Just got engaged yesterday. Travis Kelcey real time eighty for him,

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Speaker 1: the sixty seventh player, the sixth tight end, number sixty

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Speaker 1: eight somewhere around there. Over All, his holding steady right now,

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Speaker 1: Pat Drafter passed the aging Travis Kelcey after a year

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Speaker 1: last year where he did seem to lose a step,

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Speaker 1: although the stats were still pretty solid.

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Speaker 2: In PPR, I'm gonna say pass just because I want

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Speaker 2: Bowers er Kittle early or I want Kraft or Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 1: Late late or great. That works for me. Welsh, how

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Speaker 1: about you Drafter pass Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I'll put a ring on it, But I think that's

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Speaker 3: that's a positive of what Fitzi's saying, Like, there are

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Speaker 3: other guys that I want, but you know you have

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Speaker 3: Rice out. He's gonna be a red zone option. He

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Speaker 3: got all the targets in the world. So I will

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Speaker 3: put a ring on it, but I think it comes

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Speaker 3: with a little bit of a caveat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have viat is wise. I think the

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Speaker 1: later you get him the better. But in the middle,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of more like we're Pat is later great.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of late, maybe Pat just gave away the game here.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren last year brock Bauers was tight end ten.

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Speaker 1: Right now he is tight end eleven. FITZI pretty safe

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Speaker 1: to say you are drafting Tyler Warren. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like George Kittle and Jeremy Shockey had a

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Speaker 2: baby and it was Tyler Warren. So yes, it's a

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Speaker 2: lot of havoc after the catch.

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Speaker 1: I wondered how much tequila was consumed for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: Welsh Drafter passed Tyler Warren as the late tight end

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Speaker 1: that everybody wants we're drafting.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it to rise up too much, but

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Speaker 3: if you miss on the top three, you should be

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Speaker 3: targeting Craft or Tyler Warren on the back end of

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Speaker 3: the tight end. So that is a draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Despite Daniel Jones being there, I to him drafting

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. You know he was pretty good with Evan

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: Ingram back in the day too. I think Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a breath of fresh air

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00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: from New York, getting out of New York, maybe a

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00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: little reset. Maybe he could at least give us something

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00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: good in Indianapolis. We shall see. I'm not holding my

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Speaker 1: breath too much, but I do like the adp of

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren to Fitzi's point, So there you have it,

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Speaker 1: the guys who were drafting, the guys that were passing on,

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Speaker 1: and the guys who are well. Circumstantial evidence for all

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Speaker 1: of that. But what do you think? Drop your comments below?

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Speaker 1: Are you drafting these players? Are you passing on these players?

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