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Speaker 1: a collaboration from I Heart Radio and your Friends and

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Speaker 1: Miracle Grow. Our goal is to make this the most

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Speaker 1: good habits to bring into screen. Number one, clean your windows.

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Speaker 1: are all good things to carry over to other parts

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Speaker 1: of your life. That's really lovely Aaron Shannon, the Impatient

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Speaker 1: Gardeners the website, thank you so much. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Humans growing stuff will be

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Speaker 1: right back after a short break. And now for another

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Speaker 1: poetry corner. This poem is called groundhog Day. When the

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Speaker 1: groundhog sees a shadow, we complain how the te pictures

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Speaker 1: will go low, but that little vermin can't predetermine a

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Speaker 1: polar vortex or El Nino. Thank you. Hello everyone, I'm

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Speaker 1: Ja the Black Plant Chick, and I'm here to share

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Speaker 1: with you three plant affirmations to get you through this spring.

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Speaker 1: deep breath in and now out, and repeat after me.

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Speaker 1: Spring a time where, no matter what's in my wallet,

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Speaker 1: breath in and now out. With every new leaf that

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Speaker 1: and abundance. M take another deep breath in and now out.

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Speaker 1: The more plants I have, the happier I am. Take

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Speaker 1: these with you, say them whenever you need to, and

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Speaker 1: like seeds, they will grow. And until next time, Love,

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Speaker 1: peace and propagate. I don't know about you, but this

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Speaker 1: winter wasn't easy. My family got COVID, the kids kept

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Speaker 1: getting their hopes up about going back to school in person,

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Speaker 1: and like Charlie Brown's football, it just kept getting yanked away.

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Speaker 1: I've missed my parents and my in laws deeply. I

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Speaker 1: with my friends. And to be honest, gardening just feels

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Speaker 1: looking forward to having something to get excited about. There's

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Speaker 1: after hearing from Aaron about all of the joy she

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Speaker 1: gets from planning her garden out early, I've been dreaming

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Speaker 1: of all the possibilities, dreaming of what we might plant.

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Speaker 1: Do we have enough light to grow veggies? What sorts

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Speaker 1: What sort of birds will the kids and I attract

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Speaker 1: with this birdhouse we just built. What sorts of flowers

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Speaker 1: haste for spring, I was also thinking about how little

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Speaker 1: I trust the groundhog and his Groundhog Day predictions. According

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Speaker 1: to mental floss punk satani Fils accuracy rate is a

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Speaker 1: dismal thirty nine per cent. What's worse is all the

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Speaker 1: leash we give him. We let him live in a

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Speaker 1: town library for free. He has a staff of fifteen

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Speaker 1: people serving him paw and foot. Can we feed him

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Speaker 1: a special groundhog punch to make sure he's in great spirits?

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Speaker 1: And even when he's wrong, and he's clearly wrong all

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Speaker 1: the time, we claim that he's always right and that

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Speaker 1: we've misinterpreted his groundhoggiaes. Seriously, that's the language. The town

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Speaker 1: claims he speaks groundhog ease, So groundhogs aside. What's a

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Speaker 1: better way to know when spring is coming? In the

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Speaker 1: book The Gardener's Year, author Carol Chpeck suggests two truly

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Speaker 1: foolproof methods. Look for when the gardening catalogs arrive in

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Speaker 1: the mail, and then slightly look across the fence for

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Speaker 1: any sign of neighbors. When you see them sporting old

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Speaker 1: trousers and waving their gardening spades in the air, talking

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Speaker 1: about the weather, that's when you can be sure spring

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Speaker 1: is here. I'm excited for a new season, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to be in the garden and I'm so I did

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Speaker 1: to be here with you. That's it for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget, no matter what season it is or where

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Speaker 1: you're at in your gardening journey, there's some incredible resources

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Speaker 1: waiting for you on the Miracle Grow website. Next time

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Speaker 1: on our show, we're going to explore bringing the farm

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Speaker 1: to table experience to your backyard. If you like what

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Speaker 1: you heard, don't forget to rate and review the show

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Speaker 1: at Miracle Grow. Our show is written and produced by

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Speaker 1: Molly Sosha and me Mongy Chatiguler in partnership with Rhinovadia,

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