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Speaker 1: We welcome on Sean Martin, writer at the PGA Tour.
Speaker 1: Are you senior writer? Now?
Speaker 3: You know yea works your way role, senior.
Speaker 1: Editor, Senior editor at the PGA Tour and also a
Speaker 1: new father number two.
Speaker 3: Two, number two. You're trying to catch Kyle Porter.
Speaker 1: How's it going. You're sleeping a lot.
Speaker 3: Good, We're getting there. Things are calming down a little bit,
Speaker 3: but it's definitely it's a lot of work. It's I
Speaker 3: feel like two kids, feels like three times the work.
Speaker 3: So I've been alternity leave. Augusta is the big comeback,
Speaker 3: you know, just get thrown right into the fire. I've
Speaker 3: been paying attention to what's going on, but I'm excited
Speaker 3: to get to Augusta. See you back a little golf.
Speaker 1: You have some takes just ruminating.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've just been fired up, just just waiting
Speaker 3: to unleash.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about it. What so so far? In
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, what's surprised.
Speaker 3: You, What surprised me? I think the biggest thing is
Speaker 3: maybe the first thing that comes to mind is the
Speaker 3: way people reacting to Rory's play and just the way
Speaker 3: that I think because Rory gets very philosophical, the way
Speaker 3: we philosophize his play, Like winning on the PGA Tour
Speaker 3: is really hard, playing in a final group is really hard.
Speaker 3: Playing in a final group when you're like three back,
Speaker 3: which he's done a couple of times, but you know,
Speaker 3: the stats don't always flesh out, like all those are
Speaker 3: very hard, and I feel like a guy going like
Speaker 3: what six straight top six finishes and we're like dogging him,
Speaker 3: and I don't know. It was good to see win
Speaker 3: the player because I felt like he was playing great
Speaker 3: and it was just it's just funny how we over
Speaker 3: maybe overanalyze these things. I mean, good play is good play.
Speaker 3: And then of course speed, Like I was looking at
Speaker 3: the speed stats the other day and like being like,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone's like, oh, the putting is bad, but
Speaker 3: you look at the rest of it. He's like two
Speaker 3: hundreds and strokes gang, he's outside the top one hundred
Speaker 3: and like off the tee and approach like it's it's
Speaker 3: it's bad bad. He's playing better this week so far,
Speaker 3: but the weekends been really the big sort of struggle
Speaker 3: for him. So I think Rory and Speed, I guess,
Speaker 3: would be my two big things that stand out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked a lot about this in the past.
Speaker 1: Is about like winning and how it might be a
Speaker 1: little overrated. And I think Rory was like the poster
Speaker 1: boy for this up until that Players is he was
Speaker 1: clearly the best player in the world, like playing the
Speaker 1: best golf of anybody in the world going into that
Speaker 1: Players and then you know, everybody jumped on the bandwagon
Speaker 1: after he wins. But to a certain extent, winning there
Speaker 1: is some randomness too totally. You get into the hunt
Speaker 1: and then if things go your way, you got a
Speaker 1: really good chance at winning. But sometimes things don't go
Speaker 1: your way.
Speaker 3: And yeah, golf is so golf so random. I think
Speaker 3: I saw a study once they hit like a bunch
Speaker 3: of six irons with an iron Byron and like it
Speaker 3: was like ten six ins of an iron bron and
Speaker 3: like the yardage disparity was like fifteen yards or something,
Speaker 3: just because of like air and wind changes, like while
Speaker 3: the ball was airborne, Like golf is such a random sport.
Speaker 3: I think what Joe Pete said too about clustering, Like
Speaker 3: you know, you only get one chance to hit each shot,
Speaker 3: and we all have like this you know, random basically variant,
Speaker 3: this random. Scott Fascet calls it the shotgun pattern of
Speaker 3: like where our shots go with basically like the same swing.
Speaker 3: And so golf is just a random game. You stand
Speaker 3: up on a tee, the wind shifts five miles an
Speaker 3: hour while your ball's airborne, like it can have a
Speaker 3: huge impact. And so we love to ascribe everything that
Speaker 3: happens Sunday to nerves and you know, mental and emotion
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. But in reality, like especially as
Speaker 3: a player like Rory who's done it's so much, sometimes
Speaker 3: these things just don't don't happen. I thought Joe Pete
Speaker 3: calling it clustering in the Very Special Shotguns Start was
Speaker 3: really good because yeah, some days you just you know,
Speaker 3: we want to say, we won't want to describe or redoo,
Speaker 3: but some days, like your shots happened to laying close
Speaker 3: to the pin, you're swinging it just as well as
Speaker 3: you were yesterday, but you know you've gotten good yardages,
Speaker 3: changes in the air. You know, slight changes and impact
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, like it just works out for
Speaker 3: you would basically the same type of play you had
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: Previous when Rory went through where people were puting like
Speaker 1: he can't close on Sundays that it was like the
Speaker 1: week before the valspar or not the valspar to the players,
Speaker 1: the Bay Hill was the last time, you know. And
Speaker 1: I looked at all the stats for his last round
Speaker 1: and it was all it was was like he just
Speaker 1: wasn't hitting a pro shots that close everybody. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: thing about and I think this is a part of
Speaker 1: with golf coverage where everybody always wants to jump to
Speaker 1: the end result and blame people's putting right because they
Speaker 1: don't see putts going in, But a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's you're not hitting it close enough to make putts right.
Speaker 1: And that's the case with speed. Everybody's pointing fingers at
Speaker 1: his putting, but he's not hitting the ball close. So
Speaker 1: it's hard to make a lot of birdies if you
Speaker 1: don't hit the ball well right.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, his balls rining stats are really bad, by
Speaker 3: the way, this year.
Speaker 1: It's not good.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I think that that's but that's also the thing that
Speaker 1: golf can do to you is where if you're struggling
Speaker 1: with one thing, it eventually wears on everything.
Speaker 3: Oh totally.
Speaker 1: You've You've covered U golf for a pretty long time,
Speaker 1: you know, yep, pretty much all of Rory's career.
Speaker 3: Uh sure, yeah, of his career. Started doing it before
Speaker 3: Rory came out. But yeah, so I've seen a lot
Speaker 3: of Rory.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think this is as good as
Speaker 1: he's played.
Speaker 3: I think he seems more complete and I like, uh,
Speaker 3: maybe more controlled. You know, I think he would hit
Speaker 3: that high draw with the driver and just kill it.
Speaker 3: And when it was on, he could just dominate courses.
Speaker 3: But then when it was off, you know, it was off,
Speaker 3: and that the fade is hitting. Now he seems like
Speaker 3: he's still driving it pretty much just as good, a
Speaker 3: lot more control. It's the same thing we thought with Dustin.
Speaker 3: You know, dust in twenty sixteen he goes to a
Speaker 3: fade that year, wins Oakmont, wins Firestone, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: it seems like Rory he just seems under control and
Speaker 3: like and and what so seven straight top six finishes,
Speaker 3: I guess like it just seems maybe he's on a roll.
Speaker 3: And we get on the rolls, but he just seems
Speaker 3: very in controlled, very repeatable. I like it. I think
Speaker 3: that I think he doesn't. You know, you look at Augusta,
Speaker 3: his Augusta record up until a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Every year he had a round of seventy seven or higher.
Speaker 3: So many times he got into the mix, like through Thursday,
Speaker 3: Friday and the shot seventy seven. We saw him do
Speaker 3: a speed we saw him doing twenty eleven, saw him
Speaker 3: doing it a couple of times early before he was
Speaker 3: even in contention, and then back door of top ten,
Speaker 3: and like you know, that was his big prominent Augusta
Speaker 3: was he'd have the one big day and he's finally
Speaker 3: learned to control that and he's contended and now he
Speaker 3: just needs to, you know, maybe shave a couple more
Speaker 3: strokes off there and get that Grand Slam.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like how much web dot Com leader
Speaker 1: boards all the time, and the difference between the guys
Speaker 1: that you know have good weeks and bad weeks is
Speaker 1: usually there. It's always the bad round and it seems,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's it's at every level of golf.
Speaker 1: Is if you can usually in a tournament, in a
Speaker 1: four day tournament, you know, obviously there's situations where guys
Speaker 1: run away and play just unbelievable golf for four rounds,
Speaker 1: but more likely than not, there's gonna be one round
Speaker 1: where you just don't have it, and that's the I
Speaker 1: feel like Rory this year has avoided the bad round.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I can't really remember a year with the exception of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Speed's been struggling for almost a year now.
Speaker 1: But outside of really Brooksy we Brooks, kaptcha, we have
Speaker 1: all the big damn guys have shown something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that happens. I'm gonna say take I
Speaker 3: think that happens a fair amount more because I feel
Speaker 3: like I every year I see this tweet of like,
Speaker 3: you know, Rory won speak one day one Like every
Speaker 3: year it's like this might be the most Hypmasters ever,
Speaker 3: and I feel like it happens every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: I feel like we have more more parody than ever.
Speaker 1: There's more you know, really big players than ever.
Speaker 3: Now totally right, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I think you could go down the list of
Speaker 1: players and you could get I mean, you get down
Speaker 1: to like twenty twenty two in the world. You're not
Speaker 1: surprised if they win this next week anybody in the
Speaker 1: Lap twenty two.
Speaker 3: Which going back to the Rory thing, makes like the
Speaker 3: winning that much harder. So all you can do is
Speaker 3: consistently put yourself in contention. You know, Joe Peterson of
Speaker 3: the clustering and the strokes gained, and you know how
Speaker 3: you can only control what you can control, and so
Speaker 3: like I was looking at like the year Christen Marco
Speaker 3: the Tiger in the playoff and DeMarco gained seventeen strokes
Speaker 3: on the field, but he lost to Tiger, but he
Speaker 3: would have won eleven or the next thirteen Masters, And
Speaker 3: so all you can do is control what you can control,
Speaker 3: but it just takes that many more strokes gained to
Speaker 3: then win. So you know, when you're comparing Rory and
Speaker 3: like all these other tournaments where he comes close, it's
Speaker 3: Rory against one hundred and fifty five other guys. Some
Speaker 3: of them are gonna have hot putting weeks all this
Speaker 3: other stuff, and so he's done the only thing you
Speaker 3: can do, which is consistently put yourself in contention and
Speaker 3: then sometimes just hope that someone doesn't happen to play better,
Speaker 3: which is not a sexy answer, and people want to
Speaker 3: wish there's more to it, but really, I mean, he's
Speaker 3: done all you can do, and he's done what you
Speaker 3: need to do to be the best player in the world.
Speaker 1: So outside of Rory, obviously he's got the Grand Slam
Speaker 1: and that's going to be the really big storyline going in.
Speaker 1: What else are you watching? Are you excited?
Speaker 3: Sure? I'm curious with Dustin Johnson. I did Kyle Porter's
Speaker 3: pod and he laughed at me a little bit for
Speaker 3: comparing Augusta and TPC Sawgrass based on obviously my employer
Speaker 3: and where I work. But you look at Dustin. Dustin's
Speaker 3: record at the Players Championship was horrendous for a long time.
Speaker 3: He was over par for his career Deep Sea Sawgrass
Speaker 3: before arriving at the Players this year, and then he
Speaker 3: played really well and he contended and had a chance
Speaker 3: to win. And Augusta was kind of that way too.
Speaker 3: For a guy you know, he kills it, hits really far,
Speaker 3: should dominate the part fives everything we say about people
Speaker 3: who should contend to Augusta, But his record there wasn't
Speaker 3: really good. I think now he's just reached that level
Speaker 3: where he's so good and so well rounded that he
Speaker 3: can contend anywhere. And he showed it at the Players,
Speaker 3: a place that he had not had a good record,
Speaker 3: and so now I'm curiously if he can kind of
Speaker 3: show the same thing at Augusta, where, like pepc Sawgrass,
Speaker 3: his results have gotten a little bit better each year
Speaker 3: after a really bad start.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the last couple of year times DJ's
Speaker 1: played at Augusta, I thought he's played pretty well, Like
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, he was like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was that one year I want to say it was
Speaker 1: three years ago. I want to say he finished T
Speaker 1: six and he was like he was right there, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he just didn't make any putts on Sunday. I
Speaker 1: think obviously, hitting the ball really far and really straight
Speaker 1: works everywhere. Sure, and like to a certain extent, it's
Speaker 1: all about approach at Augusta, you know. But obviously the
Speaker 1: DJ is always going to have a huge advantage driving
Speaker 1: the golf ball, and that's the that's the thing where
Speaker 1: DJ could just look really bad sometimes approaching greens. I
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, but that's everybody, really, who'd you say,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite going into the week?
Speaker 3: Favorite? I don't want to say Coke favorite with Rory
Speaker 3: and Rose. Uh. And then the one I want to
Speaker 3: look beyond based on your boy Joe Pete is Bryson.
Speaker 3: So Bryson when he's an amateur, you know, he's in
Speaker 3: contention there halfway through the Masters, and then just makes
Speaker 3: a mess of eighteen. It makes triple, but still finishes
Speaker 3: like twenty first. And then last year hit the ball incredible.
Speaker 3: I think he was the worst putter in the field
Speaker 3: and finished like twenty fifth.
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Stanley was the worst.
Speaker 3: And Bryson was the second worst.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think Bryson was the second worst. Kyle
Speaker 1: Stanley lost something like nine shots on the greens, yeah something.
Speaker 3: So whatever it was, it was bad. They were both bad,
Speaker 3: but so point being of Bryson was just you know,
Speaker 3: one bad swing on eighteen, which and then you know
Speaker 3: one horrendous putting week, which is putting's been a lot better,
Speaker 3: and I think he's he could have contended twice in
Speaker 3: his two starts, which one of them was an amateur.
Speaker 3: So I do. I do like Bryson, though he has
Speaker 3: slowed a little bit in his play, But I think
Speaker 3: Rose and Rory would be my co number ones.
Speaker 1: Somebody I'm curious about this year is mol Nari. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's never had great success at Augusta and you could,
Speaker 1: you know, for most of his career he had probably
Speaker 1: like the worst type of game for Augusta.
Speaker 3: Short and a bad putter.
Speaker 1: But he's like kind of long now.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, he gain I last year he gained twenty yards.
Speaker 3: It's been like a three year process to gain twenty
Speaker 3: yards because he basically used to be super straight and
Speaker 3: super short. Now he's still pretty straight, but twenty yards longer.
Speaker 3: And so I asked him for like the best hole.
Speaker 3: That was a good example of how much his distance
Speaker 3: has helped him. And he talked about Aida Augusta. He
Speaker 3: always had used to go left of the right faroy bunker,
Speaker 3: and then last year it was the first time he
Speaker 3: could carry Hutting is a lot better. He has two
Speaker 3: of the things that you do. You do need there,
Speaker 3: You need to hit it farther. And of course, I
Speaker 3: mean Augusta is going to penalize Missus, especially Missus with
Speaker 3: irons on thirteen fifteen, but he doesn't miss anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, he can just go. That was
Speaker 1: I mean last year's open win was It was one
Speaker 1: of the most impressive golf performances I've ever seen, you
Speaker 1: know it basically didn't miss a shot for two days.
Speaker 3: And then I mean, the the match play was ridiculous
Speaker 3: going into Sunday. He played seventy three holes in five matches.
Speaker 3: That's out of a possible ninety holes. And then he
Speaker 3: lost a kissner. But then he rolled through the consolation match.
Speaker 3: I mean, he almost won the match play without ever
Speaker 3: like with seeing I think the seventeenth hole once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he's he's just a tough guy to play
Speaker 1: against because he never misses. Like those guys just frustrate
Speaker 1: the crap out of you. Yeah, it's like he's he's
Speaker 1: got to be kind of a sneaky Masters guy because
Speaker 1: his his odds are going to be depressed because of
Speaker 1: his form at Augusta, right.
Speaker 3: Which I want to say last year was his best
Speaker 3: finished by a long shot. I want to say he
Speaker 3: finished top twenty. I can look it up, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think in a big part of that was that
Speaker 3: was when he was starting to really see the distance games.
Speaker 3: But last year was his best Master's finish because he's
Speaker 3: a much different player than he was three four or
Speaker 3: five years ago, so you can't look too much at
Speaker 3: his his way way back results T twenty Augusta. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that was after some pretty pretty bad finishes to start
Speaker 3: his career. And of course he has caddying experience there.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm oh yeah for for Dodo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same group as Tiger. Tiger was defending champion and
Speaker 3: Dodo was the USM champ.
Speaker 1: No better way to learn learn Augusta than caddy out Augusta.
Speaker 3: Maybe more guys should do that.
Speaker 1: What about uh, what about your boy Decky?
Speaker 3: He just high on him. I know, I think Augusta
Speaker 3: has Augusta is more of a I don't know if
Speaker 3: this term really means because it works everywhere, but Augusta,
Speaker 3: now there's than lengthened, is more of a ball striker's
Speaker 3: course than before. You know, before it was like you
Speaker 3: had to just kind of wedge it and putt it
Speaker 3: well and go low. But now, I mean, really, you
Speaker 3: know what are we looking at? Eight nine, ten underwins
Speaker 3: some years and you know you just gotta so you
Speaker 3: don't have to make a ton of put especially with
Speaker 3: the par fives. You can just pick up a ton
Speaker 3: of strokes there. So for a guy like Hideki, You
Speaker 3: just you know, don't make any mistakes. You've got to
Speaker 3: hit good mid long irons, especially at the par fives,
Speaker 3: and then you don't have to put lights out because
Speaker 3: it's not like it used to be. It's more of
Speaker 3: a like meld of the US Open a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's more of a ball striker's course. And that's why
Speaker 3: I think Hideki has played well in the last few years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I he hits it so good. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that Augusta does, and I've said this in a
Speaker 1: number of times, but the uneven lies clearly bring the
Speaker 1: best iron players to the forefront. I think that's why
Speaker 1: we see Paul Casey play outstanding there every single year.
Speaker 1: I the guy is like a top ten machine at Augusta.
Speaker 1: And you see you look just down the winners. I
Speaker 1: mean you look at Speth, who are the best players
Speaker 1: at Augusta. You know that we've seen as are like
Speaker 1: in our generations, Speth, Phil and Tiger and those are
Speaker 1: three of the best iron players.
Speaker 3: Well. And it's an underrated skill because TV flattens everything
Speaker 3: out and most of us play you know, fairly flat
Speaker 3: American golf courses. But I mean it's a real thing there,
Speaker 3: and Speed had that famous quote that I always love
Speaker 3: looking back at. He said he always played well at
Speaker 3: Capelloua when he was there, and then in Augusta because
Speaker 3: he loved hitting off side hill lies. Because it may
Speaker 3: you have be more athletic and kind of more innovative.
Speaker 3: It's less driving range style, it's less mechanic, it's more athletic.
Speaker 3: And so I do think that that skill is greatly
Speaker 3: underrated because you don't see it on TV and because
Speaker 3: most of us aren't used to hitting shots like that
Speaker 3: crazy enough that much of a side hill or uphill
Speaker 3: or downhill lie.
Speaker 1: It's I think, uh yeah, I agree with that. It
Speaker 1: brings so much skill to the forefront and and then
Speaker 1: I think around the greens. Obviously that's got you're gonna miss.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing where you know, Ricky, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Ricky going into this That's obviously always
Speaker 1: a big question.
Speaker 3: A little bit too with the short game stuff thos.
Speaker 3: Soon as I wonder when something is so hard it
Speaker 3: almost the great players really stand out at it, but
Speaker 3: then it kind of compresses like the average and bad.
Speaker 3: I feel like, where if you're not that good at it,
Speaker 3: you're really bad at so we like how hard shipping
Speaker 3: and pitching is around Augusta. Like guys like Phil and
Speaker 3: Speak really stand out. But if you're only like slightly
Speaker 3: above average, you're I feel like your advantage is kind
Speaker 3: of gone because you're just you're either really really good
Speaker 3: or you're bad.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're subtweeting Westy.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a guy who's not known for
Speaker 3: his short game, but a consistent contender at Augusta. But
Speaker 3: then it's because he would ball striking to death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, I think this about the Greens a
Speaker 1: little bit, is that I think that the Greens there.
Speaker 1: I think Kideki being so bad at puttings actually he
Speaker 1: gets closer to the you know, average guy at Augusta
Speaker 1: than he does at a place like say, uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know Valero.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it turns I think it it kind of
Speaker 3: compresses the field a little bit of like it's kind
Speaker 3: of like, what if you have two putters you don't
Speaker 3: have one. It's kind of like if nobody's making putts,
Speaker 3: then nobody's a good putter. I think there's some of that.
Speaker 3: I think obviously there's a couple of guys that can
Speaker 3: put well there, but there's only a couple everyone else
Speaker 3: is just kind of you know, two putting taking advantage
Speaker 3: of par fives and then and also using if you're
Speaker 3: a really good ball striker there and you can use
Speaker 3: the slopes, you can be left with a lot of
Speaker 3: really short birdie puts into certain pins. So and but
Speaker 3: then you know, I think you and me and Stuart
Speaker 3: hagesth I were talking about with fourteen like that's a
Speaker 3: hole that knowledge people think about. But like there's a
Speaker 3: couple of places where you hit a good short iron
Speaker 3: shot and you can funnel it to it in like
Speaker 3: a foot. But if you miss the slope, now you
Speaker 3: left with a crazy up and down you're gonna be bogie.
Speaker 3: And so I do think that you left with a
Speaker 3: lot of short birdie putts there. No one and maybe
Speaker 3: speak is different the year that he won in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: but that was a crazy year. But like a lot
Speaker 3: of guys are winning there by just pouring in fifteen
Speaker 3: footers all day because it's so hard to do.
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that, like I feel like maybe
Speaker 1: last year was the first time where I felt like
Speaker 1: Reed made a lot of really good like ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen foot putts. Yeah, But for the most part, I
Speaker 1: think it's because of the way the greens are, where
Speaker 1: there's very small targets on these big greens that you
Speaker 1: have to get to in order to have like a
Speaker 1: real makeable putt yep.
Speaker 3: But and there are some sections where if you do
Speaker 3: get to it, you are left with a flat putt.
Speaker 3: Like I was, like, I watched the final round highlights yesterday,
Speaker 3: and I mean, like, he made the big pot on twelve,
Speaker 3: but twelve is a flat green. He made a pretty
Speaker 3: good put on three, but like it was fifteen feet,
Speaker 3: but it didn't have that much movement to it, So
Speaker 3: it was in that front left section of the green.
Speaker 3: You're there, but you're not making huge bending fifteen footers.
Speaker 1: What can we talk about the strokes gain stuff you
Speaker 1: did per hole?
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell let's do it walk.
Speaker 1: Uh. So you sent me this chart and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what is this? What did what did you all? What
Speaker 1: did you put together?
Speaker 3: So I wanted to take the guys who so I
Speaker 3: called them seventy two hole leaders, guys who either won
Speaker 3: or got into a playoff, because I feel like when
Speaker 3: you're looking at strokes gain for the week, you can't
Speaker 3: discount a guy just because what happened after the final
Speaker 3: put dropped in regulation. So I took the last ten
Speaker 3: years and I stopped at two thousand and nine. I
Speaker 3: mean a partly for time. Data entry takes a little
Speaker 3: bit of a while. And then b I think before
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine, and you get in some weird
Speaker 3: weather years with two thousand and eight, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 3: and even before that you got in some really hard masters,
Speaker 3: and then also had different equipment. Guys are just getting
Speaker 3: used to kind of the length in Augusta, and they're
Speaker 3: playing it with different stuff than they're playing it now.
Speaker 3: So I stopped at two thousand and nine, and that
Speaker 3: was fifteen guys, and I wanted to look at like
Speaker 3: if you took that guy every year, like where did
Speaker 3: he gained his strokes in the field? What were the
Speaker 3: most important holes? Was it just thirteen and fifteen he
Speaker 3: just you know, massacred and gained all his strokes, And
Speaker 3: so I took the holes where they gained the most
Speaker 3: strokes on the field for those fifteen guys. And it
Speaker 3: was interesting, is what we talked about. But the two
Speaker 3: biggest holes were three and fourteen, which not exactly. The
Speaker 3: two most famous holes of Augusta two par fours, not
Speaker 3: the par fives. And part of it is for the
Speaker 3: reason we talked about was that their holes where you've
Speaker 3: got a short iron in hand, and if you can
Speaker 3: pull off the shot, you can be left with a
Speaker 3: very short birdy putt. But if you don't, you can
Speaker 3: make five or even six. They're really quick.
Speaker 1: I think this is a great way to think about it.
Speaker 1: And Joe Peter on the shotgun start talked about this
Speaker 1: a little bit. But everybody talks about how it's a
Speaker 1: par five contest. Yeah, but those are the ones where
Speaker 1: you have to make bertie to keep up right right,
Speaker 1: And these are the holes that when you make bertie,
Speaker 1: you you separate yourself.
Speaker 3: Yep. So and so I can go down the list,
Speaker 3: but and when we look at them, it does make sense,
Speaker 3: and it is it's not the biggest sample, but it
Speaker 3: is sixty rounds. But so the holes in order are three, fourteen, twelve,
Speaker 3: eighteen and one, and then again to eight and fifteen,
Speaker 3: a couple of part fives, and then actually the hole
Speaker 3: is last on the whole thing. And for I've gone
Speaker 3: longer and done more years, and it stays in the
Speaker 3: last places too, which is one of the par five.
Speaker 3: But I think, frank, because that one's really hard to
Speaker 3: mess up because you can you hit it up there,
Speaker 3: you go for it. There's no trouble around the green
Speaker 3: per se. You're not hitting in the water like on
Speaker 3: thirteen or fifteen. But yeah, three and fourteen two short
Speaker 3: part fours are birdie ball I looked at them a
Speaker 3: little bit. They seem to be the holes each year
Speaker 3: where a couple of years they play over par. But
Speaker 3: they allowed the most birdies out of the holes to
Speaker 3: play over par. And then after that twelve I think
Speaker 3: obviously just keeping it out of water. Eighteen I think
Speaker 3: because some of those whole locations, especially maybe the Sunday one,
Speaker 3: you can make birdie there and so a couple of good,
Speaker 3: well struck shots will give you a birdie, but you
Speaker 3: can also make a mess of that hole. And I
Speaker 3: do think one the first whole huge part four days
Speaker 3: you're picking up strokes on the field.
Speaker 1: That hole is so hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah one.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you buy a chance to listen to
Speaker 1: that podcast I did about loss of version.
Speaker 3: No, I'm saving it for my five and a half
Speaker 3: hour drive to Augusta.
Speaker 1: It's something I've been thinking about a lot lately. So
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that if you play par five,
Speaker 1: if it's a par four instead of a part five,
Speaker 1: the pros are going to a point two to one
Speaker 1: two point three shots right right per round. So it's
Speaker 1: thirteen is a perfect example of a hole that if
Speaker 1: it was a US open, they would immediately make that
Speaker 1: a part four, right yep. And but and then guys
Speaker 1: would score even better on it. Yeah, because they're a
Speaker 1: loss of verse. And I think that's there's some stuff
Speaker 1: there with Augusta where they're there's there's psychological things out there,
Speaker 1: and I think one is an example of a hole
Speaker 1: that is extremely hard, but it's made harder because it's
Speaker 1: the first one off and you're a lot of these guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Ogilvy said it on the pod, like you're
Speaker 1: more nervous there than anywhere else. The rest of the
Speaker 1: year is the first tess.
Speaker 3: Did you see Eddy Pepperrell's tweet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're setting to say exactly so.
Speaker 3: Like it's common we're seven days away from me pitching
Speaker 3: out of the first bunker or the punker on the
Speaker 3: first hole. Augusta National, Yes, well, I mean that's a
Speaker 3: fairly bunker that you don't you Sometimes students have to
Speaker 3: pitch out sideways on that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're so deep. I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the things with I was at Pebble a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and that was something that like really
Speaker 1: shocked me, was how deep the bunkers are there. And
Speaker 1: that was something also when I was at Augusta that
Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, these bunkers are so deep
Speaker 1: and you can't tell that from from the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is like, if you're in some of those fairway bunkers,
Speaker 1: you have no chance.
Speaker 3: And also a lot of up and downs around number
Speaker 3: one if you do miss the green or all but impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One one's one of the toughest greens too. That's that's
Speaker 1: another aspect of it that it beyond like being very
Speaker 1: hard to drive it well there then you get there.
Speaker 1: It's the toughest green with unbelievably difficult surround. What uh
Speaker 1: what about first timers? Are you you watched and are
Speaker 1: you excited to see any of these first timers? Do
Speaker 1: you feel like any of them would have a chance
Speaker 1: to really perform? Well?
Speaker 3: I think because it's more of a I've read this
Speaker 3: sumwhere I feel like I'm stealing this take. But I
Speaker 3: think because it's become more of a ball striker's golf
Speaker 3: course and less of kind of a short iron and
Speaker 3: you know, go really low, that it takes some of
Speaker 3: that mystery out of it. And so you see first
Speaker 3: timers play better. I mean like even Tony Tony made
Speaker 3: is they do last year Sprain's ankle and finishes ten.
Speaker 3: So I think that, I want to say, some of
Speaker 3: the subtlety is taken out of it because on so
Speaker 3: many holes now you're just playing for par, and so
Speaker 3: you can play a little bit safer and you don't
Speaker 3: have to attack some of the.
Speaker 1: Some of those you know, I asked this question. Now,
Speaker 1: I kind of run down the list of I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the list of of who are the first timers?
Speaker 3: I would say Victor Howland. I mean that's also an
Speaker 3: amateur when I get to that later.
Speaker 1: But YE was gonna, yeah, you want to listen to
Speaker 1: the pros and the first time pros? Do you know
Speaker 1: who they all are?
Speaker 3: I don't. I was actually if you asked me that question,
Speaker 3: I was pulling off the field list and just scrolling
Speaker 3: rapidly through it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of crazy. I I this
Speaker 1: is a this is I can't remember a first time
Speaker 1: or list with like not one guy where you're like,
Speaker 1: so it's Matt Wallace, Beureguard Pepperell, Keith Mitchell, Aaron Wise,
Speaker 1: Kevin Tway, Adam Long, Andrew Landry and Michael Kim for pros.
Speaker 3: So that's it feels like a pretty short list, too.
Speaker 1: Short, Yeah, really short.
Speaker 3: Wallace has been fairly impressive the last few weeks. He's
Speaker 3: the guy that won won six times. I think it
Speaker 3: was like three years ago he was a six time
Speaker 3: winner on the Alpsteer.
Speaker 1: I think he won three times last year too.
Speaker 3: He did so, but he's he's risen pretty rapidly from
Speaker 3: where he was at twenty sixteen. He played the Alps Tour.
Speaker 1: Alps Tour three years ago. Fun tour to go? What what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What if you could go for an entire season cover
Speaker 1: one golf tour? What would it be? This is a
Speaker 1: little divergence.
Speaker 3: Maybe the Alps Tour, uh man. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: you know, ship knocked into good story in late Latino America.
Speaker 3: I could see that I've gotten probably a little too
Speaker 3: old for I would probably say Canada. I'm at the
Speaker 3: stage my life for maybe some nice wide open drives
Speaker 3: through some country, you know, see some mountains, see some
Speaker 3: nice hikes. I would probably just do it. Sounds boring,
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people do Latino America
Speaker 3: for obviously a lot of reasons. It's exotic. I think
Speaker 3: I would just go Canada, do a little hiking, a
Speaker 3: little camping.
Speaker 1: Everybody speaks in English too, you know, it sounds so American.
Speaker 1: That's such an American uncultured thing to say, like, but
Speaker 1: it's like that's a big part of like being able
Speaker 1: to communicate and get out there.
Speaker 3: It's uh, I'd stop at BAMF so that would be
Speaker 3: a big plus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I would uh. I think I would do
Speaker 1: Canada too. That that would be a cool Alps tour
Speaker 1: would be really cool if you if you spoke the language.
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Speaker 1: SB I c with uh with the masters. When do
Speaker 1: you get into town?
Speaker 3: I don't believe early Monday morning, so it's like a
Speaker 3: five hour drive through the middle of nowhere. So I've
Speaker 3: got I'm getting my podcast Q ready and yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: get there probably early Monday. Press conferences start like noon
Speaker 3: and Monday. I think Tommy Fleewood kicks it off.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your kind of schedule when you're when
Speaker 1: you're at AUGUSTA, give us a little look behind the curtain.
Speaker 3: I think it's just controlled madness. For it's just you know,
Speaker 3: sun up to sundown. I do. Let's see, I used
Speaker 3: to drive in Monday, used to get their midday, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to write something off of whatever happens that day,
Speaker 3: which isn't too much. Then do maybe a little nice
Speaker 3: late afternoon walk around the golf course because it's hard.
Speaker 3: You can get like stuck in the grindstone. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write almost copy and got traffic and all
Speaker 3: this stuff, Like man, I'm gonna gusta like I need
Speaker 3: to enjoy this Tuesday morning to do my big all right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get there early and I'm gonna go walk.
Speaker 3: I usually do nine Tuesday, nine Wednesday each morning because
Speaker 3: Tuesday is like the big press conference day, where like
Speaker 3: every half hour is like some other top twenty player
Speaker 3: in the world. Wednesday is a lot more low key.
Speaker 3: It's just the chairman's press conference and in the part
Speaker 3: three contest. But yeah, I think, I mean it is.
Speaker 3: I try to spend a lot of time at the
Speaker 3: golf course. But then I'm too I'm like, why should
Speaker 3: you just go there? I mean, the press building is
Speaker 3: like stupid nice. It's ridiculous how nice it is. I
Speaker 3: was like, man, it's so hectic. I'm gona start get
Speaker 3: there even earlier. You can get there like five. Get
Speaker 3: a nice breakfast. They have like print editions of the
Speaker 3: New York Times, which is like unheard of. Get a
Speaker 3: nice breakfast, sit back, read the New York Times, collect
Speaker 3: my thoughts of the day, get my takes in order,
Speaker 3: and then you know, just be really refreshing ready to
Speaker 3: go for when the press conferences start.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts so far? We're recording this on
Speaker 1: Friday on the and whah.
Speaker 3: I think it's a step in the right direction as
Speaker 3: someone who actually went to the inspiration the craft in
Speaker 3: the disco for a lot for a few years for
Speaker 3: Golf Week and would do the double by the getting
Speaker 3: from Rancho Mirage cal Need to Augusta Georgian not the easiest,
Speaker 3: but having done that double and seeing what that event
Speaker 3: means to those people, like I could see it's hard.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a hard overlap to take. And I
Speaker 3: can't imagine being one of those players. It's in the
Speaker 3: position that had to choose between the two of them.
Speaker 3: I think Stacy Lewis had a quote that she gave
Speaker 3: credit to the girls and showed up to the LPGA events,
Speaker 3: like if you want to play pro golf, the only
Speaker 3: way to get better is to play in the biggest
Speaker 3: pro events and get that experience. And I think there's
Speaker 3: some of that. And I think, like, you know, you
Speaker 3: grow it's a major. So if you're a woman, you
Speaker 3: grow up. I mean, of course we all growing up
Speaker 3: or dream of playing a Gusta National growing up, but
Speaker 3: they keep you playing the inspiration as well. I just
Speaker 3: I mean there were some people that chose to go
Speaker 3: to that. I just have such a hard decision that
Speaker 3: I feel bad that people were put in that decision
Speaker 3: or put in that position that had to make that decision.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it is I think, a
Speaker 3: step in the right direction and it is nice to see.
Speaker 3: And so it's there's good and bad. It's good. Is
Speaker 3: it perfect? Probably not, But you know, if you wait
Speaker 3: around just for the perfect opportunity, you might never get it.
Speaker 3: So at least something happens.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no way that Augusta's going to
Speaker 1: change their schedule.
Speaker 3: Makes sense because you have the an wha end Saturday,
Speaker 3: and like you do have people starting to trickle into town,
Speaker 3: you know, possibly early or they might add nextra day
Speaker 3: onder their trip. And then you do have media already
Speaker 3: kind of starting to get there. You know, it used
Speaker 3: to be they'd get their Sunday because that was the
Speaker 3: last day the just media was on the court or
Speaker 3: was there. You weren't allowed on the course. You kind
Speaker 3: of gather under the tree. It's so funny because members
Speaker 3: play with players on Sunday, so like take your random
Speaker 3: like Condoleeza Rice is playing with I don't know if
Speaker 3: someone on Sunday and the Masters week starts the next day,
Speaker 3: but so media was already getting their Sunday. Now it's
Speaker 3: on Saturday. They're in town, so you get covered for
Speaker 3: the event. You know, if it was like there's just
Speaker 3: some random week in you know, February or whatever, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't get near that it would get good TV coverage,
Speaker 3: I think, because people will watch Augusta on TV at
Speaker 3: any time, but it wouldn't get the same same coverage.
Speaker 3: And also, their golf season is so short in Augusta
Speaker 3: that if you give it up for another week, your
Speaker 3: golf season is pretty short already. I think they're only
Speaker 3: what May or October to May, so giving up another
Speaker 3: week is a tough one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go back and forth because obviously, like you're
Speaker 1: the b D is coming, But then on the flip side,
Speaker 1: it's like a big ask for somebody to be there
Speaker 1: for that much longer. And then the other thing is
Speaker 1: like the it just seems like you shouldn't have to choose.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't ever have such a tough choice.
Speaker 1: It'd be like if the USGA put the US Women's
Speaker 1: Am and US Women's Open right next to each on
Speaker 1: the same date. That would never happen. Yeah, right, it's
Speaker 1: actually pretty crazy, especially when you consider Ana is kind
Speaker 1: of almost like the Masters of women Golf.
Speaker 3: Right totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know these are these.
Speaker 3: Are I give credit to the women that went to
Speaker 3: the inspiration. Like, can you imagine turning down I mean
Speaker 3: that's that's making a bold I feel like a bold
Speaker 3: statement for women's golf or maybe the LPGA tour. Like
Speaker 3: you're turning down around to Augusta National. It's hard to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know if you'll get an invite back
Speaker 1: the next year if you turn it down, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I figure if they if they,
Speaker 1: if they make it big enough and in pro golf,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll get a play Augusta National. And like with
Speaker 1: the way the way the stay of the golf is too.
Speaker 1: This is the other thing. This is actually an interesting question.
Speaker 1: Are you going to get more exposure for winning the
Speaker 1: ANWA or winning the a NA as an amateur? I
Speaker 1: think the ant wal right, And that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're winning a women's major versus winning
Speaker 3: a women's amateur.
Speaker 1: Event just because it's Augusta. Like there's more mainstream appeal.
Speaker 3: You'll actually, if you win the Anwall, you'll you'll you'll
Speaker 3: be the most well known women's amateur golfer in the
Speaker 3: world for winning the Antwal versus winning the women's amateur
Speaker 3: That's the way of Augusta. Like, how many people know
Speaker 3: so much more about Jennifer cup Show and Sierra Brooks
Speaker 3: now than they did two or three weeks ago, all
Speaker 3: because of the ant Wall run up.
Speaker 1: And like because yeah, like cup Show, Like she's playing well,
Speaker 1: so everybody's talking about her. Yeah, it's it's that's the
Speaker 1: crazy thing. When I talked to Mike Wana a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago, what he said about the Olympics in
Speaker 1: South Korea and what the rating they got for mb
Speaker 1: was like twenty four, which is essentially like triple tiger
Speaker 1: raiding here. Yeah, it kind of weighs. But Augusta, is
Speaker 1: that for America? Yeah, so winning the Anwha is a
Speaker 1: bigger deal in a way to the country than to
Speaker 1: the golf world than winning any of the any of
Speaker 1: the majors.
Speaker 3: I do wonder that may not be the same case
Speaker 3: five ten years from now we are looking at the
Speaker 3: first one. So everyone's like, oh, you know this is
Speaker 3: the groundbreaking event. This is the first one. This one
Speaker 3: has the big media run up, so that might not
Speaker 3: be the case five ten years ago. It'll still be
Speaker 3: a big event, but it won't be overshadowing a major
Speaker 3: and the women's Amateur I mean, you'll the winner of
Speaker 3: the ANWHA is going to depending who wins the Women's Open,
Speaker 3: is going to be more famous than who wins the
Speaker 3: US Women's Open. You're gonna be you might be, depending
Speaker 3: who wins, you might be the most famous women's golfer
Speaker 3: in the country if you win the Nwhell this year.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I guess I'm just processing that of like,
Speaker 3: you might become better known than some of the best
Speaker 3: professional players. I don't think that'll be the case ten
Speaker 3: years from now, but this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't thought about it until we just started
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't think me neither. My my head
Speaker 3: you're exploding now thinking about that it.
Speaker 1: But uh so, let's let's shift gears. I can't think
Speaker 1: about that anymore. Brooks Kopka is.
Speaker 3: This excited for the excited for the body issue?
Speaker 1: Is this the strangest thing that's ever happened a guy,
Speaker 1: this one, like, you know, the last two of the
Speaker 1: last three majors.
Speaker 3: I think, so I actually and maybe it's because I
Speaker 3: work in the PGA tour and so I work like
Speaker 3: and we talked about like storytelling and you know, getting
Speaker 3: guys into non golf media. And one thing we do
Speaker 3: is we ask players, like, what's some non golf stuff
Speaker 3: you're interested in that like you would love to be
Speaker 3: featured in. And all these guys have like something like
Speaker 3: you know, someone might be really into I don't know,
Speaker 3: like just say fishing, because it's like what would love
Speaker 3: to be in like a fishing magazine or something.
Speaker 1: Sean guys Sean Stephanie is into deer hunting in Iowa.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, only Iowa, not the other that maybe
Speaker 3: that's like the Augusta National of Deer Hunting.
Speaker 1: That's why I've heard it. I've heard is un like
Speaker 1: it's the most unbelievable deer hunting place in the world.
Speaker 3: So anyways, but so and there's there's guys who are
Speaker 3: hungry to be known outside of the golf space. So
Speaker 3: if you are Brooks, you're down in South Florida with
Speaker 3: Joey d Like working out is huge for you, Like
Speaker 3: I could see you being like I'm gonna do this
Speaker 3: because it's only four months out of the year. I'm
Speaker 3: just I can't believe, Like they couldn't say, like, hey,
Speaker 3: can we shoot this in December? Like and then that
Speaker 3: way I'm off and I can lose this weight and
Speaker 3: it's not gonna fack my game. But like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I it's definitely interesting. But if you want to be
Speaker 3: like for Brooks, it might be a big deal to
Speaker 3: be the first golfer in the body issue.
Speaker 1: The song picture in the Maldives is that was like
Speaker 1: they were a precursor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just that was dropping hints, that was
Speaker 3: getting us ready.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just to get the before picture and then
Speaker 1: the after picture.
Speaker 3: But then now if he gains the twenty four pounds
Speaker 3: back like too quickly, Now, are we gonna have like
Speaker 3: two big a shift in Like you know we've gone
Speaker 3: down too fast up too fast? Like do we have
Speaker 3: to change equipment? Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is what kind of makes it crazy for me,
Speaker 1: Like this guy has played better than anybody else, Like
Speaker 1: he's winning the biggest events.
Speaker 3: And then he won the CJ CJ Cup to get
Speaker 3: the regular you know, can't win a regular tour event,
Speaker 3: monkey off his back.
Speaker 1: Imagine if Lebron in last year and there in a
Speaker 1: postseason run just was like, Hey, I'm losing twenty five
Speaker 1: pounds for something I can't tell you about it.
Speaker 3: This would it would be Lebron in the first like
Speaker 3: twenty five games of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 3: But he is. He does have the three peat chance
Speaker 3: of the US Open coming up.
Speaker 1: I see, I think he'll be back to normal, but
Speaker 1: he just like kind of I think. I think the
Speaker 1: thing the tournament that he's screwed is the is the Masters.
Speaker 1: But watch him go out and win and prove us
Speaker 1: all wrong.
Speaker 3: You know. Actually, I want I want people at the
Speaker 3: US Open to take I don't know when the body
Speaker 3: should comes out, I assume it before the US Open,
Speaker 3: to take that picture and blow it up life size
Speaker 3: and like just carried around a pebble beach. That would
Speaker 3: be just something.
Speaker 1: That would be be a new way of heckling, right,
Speaker 1: new way. So let's let's talk about the major lists.
Speaker 1: The biggest name major list. We haven't even talked about
Speaker 1: Tiger either.
Speaker 3: So I agree with Joe I think or no, it
Speaker 3: was ship nok Man. He got lit up by people.
Speaker 3: All Shipnuk was saying was that Tiger is like the
Speaker 3: twelfth number twelve favorite this week or like maybe even
Speaker 3: like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Is that where you play?
Speaker 3: I'd probably put ten guys ahead of them.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just run let's just run down the done.
Speaker 1: I'll run down a few names here, right, Dustin Johnson
Speaker 1: ahead of them, Yeah, Justin Rose clearly, Rory Yep, Brooks.
Speaker 3: Not not downsized Brooks, not small Brooks.
Speaker 1: But j j T. Would you put j T ahead
Speaker 1: of him at Augusta a place he hasn't really done
Speaker 1: it done much yet?
Speaker 3: He hasn't but small sample what is like his third fourth,
Speaker 3: Masters third? But I don't know. I think he's still
Speaker 3: I mean, he's.
Speaker 1: So good, okay, so ahead, So he's ahead of him.
Speaker 1: So we got we got uh, now we've got we've
Speaker 1: got five guys or four guys Bryson.
Speaker 3: I'm probably putting every guy that's ahead him in the
Speaker 3: world ranking ahead.
Speaker 1: Of him except for downsized Brooks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which that was half jokes, medium Brooks. Uh, but
Speaker 3: even in like I mean today is hell Fleetwood might
Speaker 3: be ahead of him, Tony fen now if you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean there's probably he's probably like the fifteenth best favorite,
Speaker 3: which isn't I mean, ship not got killed for this,
Speaker 3: but it's a it's not a bad place to be.
Speaker 3: But also it's realistic.
Speaker 1: I mean, would you put ahead of him?
Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't think so. Phil's been pretty bad since
Speaker 3: he wanted at or wanted Pebble. He's something else and
Speaker 3: his Augusta record, his Augusta record the last few years
Speaker 3: has not been good. Yeah, I think he finished. He
Speaker 3: played well the year Speed won, but that's because Spith
Speaker 3: just ran away from everyone. Would you put it he
Speaker 3: doesn't have a top yeah, of course, even no matter
Speaker 3: just because.
Speaker 1: Just just just out of speed, you'd put ahead of him, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as we as we write this Speed or as
Speaker 3: we record this feat is tied the lead of Ballero
Speaker 3: too straight sixty eight.
Speaker 1: That's uh, it's kind of big news. That's going to
Speaker 1: be a big moving line.
Speaker 3: Corey Connors also type of lead Monday Qualifier to the Master.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how many times he's had in Monday
Speaker 1: Qualify this year.
Speaker 3: This is his third, so he's not even he's not
Speaker 3: in TJ vocal territory yet, but he has a third
Speaker 3: and so if he has like another high finish, like
Speaker 3: two top five off of Monday qualifying, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: I been kind of disappointed with the Canadian golfers.
Speaker 3: I remember, so flashback let today, I guess flashback Friday
Speaker 3: two thousand nine. I was ringing Golf. We cover in
Speaker 3: the Amateur Game, and we had Nick Taylor and Matt
Speaker 3: Hill on our cover as like this big like Canadians
Speaker 3: are coming type thing, because Nick Taylor was the number
Speaker 3: one amateur in the world and Matt Hill was coming
Speaker 3: off his eight win season when he swept conference regionals
Speaker 3: in NCAA's like they were. I mean, it was like
Speaker 3: Nick Taylor and Matt Hill were so good. And I
Speaker 3: mean Nick Taylor's on tour, but all he has is
Speaker 3: the Sanderson And I think in ten years Matt Hill
Speaker 3: has never even I don't know if he's even gotten
Speaker 3: full time status on the web tour.
Speaker 1: This is that's the most amazing thing about golf is
Speaker 1: the guys in the peak at twenty one. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not about them, you know.
Speaker 3: I feel like we all think that like this this
Speaker 3: linear progression. So if you're really good at thirteen, you
Speaker 3: can be really good at fifteen and at seventeen, years
Speaker 3: can keep getting better and better. You know, you're really
Speaker 3: good to twenty one and be great at twenty five.
Speaker 3: It's like, not necessarily some guys are the best year
Speaker 3: of their career at twenty one.
Speaker 1: I was talking with somebody I can't remember who, but
Speaker 1: how golf in a way is kind of becoming more
Speaker 1: like baseball, where baseball they don't necessarily draft the best
Speaker 1: player and out of high school, they draft the best
Speaker 1: prospect out of high school, right, right, So they draft
Speaker 1: the guy that can throw ninety two. He might not
Speaker 1: have control or throw ninety four. He might not have
Speaker 1: control of his stuff, but he's six', four he's got
Speaker 1: room to, build grow, out and, GOLF i think that
Speaker 1: is the where it's kind of. Going is that a
Speaker 1: lot of times the guy that's the best of twenty
Speaker 1: one isn't going to be the one this's best to twenty.
Speaker 1: Six obviously sometimes that is the, case but.
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean college golfing might be playing shorter, Courses
Speaker 3: they might be a little, softer rough might not be
Speaker 3: a stick you can get away with a lot more
Speaker 3: versus succeeding at a. Tour you're gonna have to be
Speaker 3: six for three and pound it and hit it three.
Speaker 1: Twenty so you, know, well well let's talk about the.
Speaker 3: Ams yeah, no that's that's my. Wheelhouse let's do.
Speaker 1: It we Got obviously you're gonna be high On.
Speaker 3: Haveland hobland is by far and away the cream of
Speaker 3: the amateur cropp this.
Speaker 1: Year he's, unbelievable he's.
Speaker 3: Been him And wolf haven't played that much together this
Speaker 3: season because of just them playing all these different pro,
Speaker 3: events but they're pretty neck and. NECK i Think wolf
Speaker 3: has a higher. Ceiling the Word i've gone Is wolf
Speaker 3: has a higher. Seat hoblin hits a little bit, shorter
Speaker 3: but has maybe a more well rounded game because he
Speaker 3: can't just rely on on pure. Distance BUT i DID
Speaker 3: i tweet something About. Wolf wolfe is under power of
Speaker 3: scorning average On park, Three's par four's And part, five
Speaker 3: so it's not like he's just like eating Up part.
Speaker 3: Five like he's got a good all around, game But.
Speaker 3: Hoblin hoblin has been pretty neck and neck with him
Speaker 3: the few times that they've played this. Season they're definitely
Speaker 3: like one two in the.
Speaker 1: Country he's obviously the class the kid From South africa
Speaker 1: that plays out Of. Auburn he's a good player.
Speaker 3: Too But ernielle's, nephew which is pretty. COOL i, know
Speaker 3: we the whole family stuff always gets, overblown but like
Speaker 3: it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Cool do you think That augusta is gonna oh oh
Speaker 1: rebela a little.
Speaker 3: In wake Of. Ernie, yeah it is kind of weird
Speaker 3: to think that He's ernielle's nephew And ernie won't be,
Speaker 3: there And.
Speaker 1: Ernie like JUST i mean he unloaded On.
Speaker 3: Augusta, YEAH i think there's just so much baggage, there
Speaker 3: just because that's the. THING i, mean the thing With
Speaker 3: RORY i always retort, with, LIKE i think he'll get.
Speaker 3: It he has so many. Chances but like everyone also
Speaker 3: assumed That norman And els would get.
Speaker 1: It there is And Wise coffin And, westwood.
Speaker 3: And everyone talks About westwood and all the close calls
Speaker 3: he had there is he? Listen does he know yet about?
Speaker 3: This is he gonna be listening to? This?
Speaker 1: NO i don't think he Knows Okay? Westwood, Yeah, NO
Speaker 1: i don't think he knows WHO i. Am he doesn't
Speaker 1: know who his biggest fan in the world is you KNOW.
Speaker 3: DECKI i think it's like With Hideki hitdecky knows WHO i.
Speaker 3: Am we know each, other BUT I i kind of
Speaker 3: ACTUALLY i hope that he doesn't actually see my, tweets
Speaker 3: LIKE i assume that he, doesn't which is one reason
Speaker 3: WHY i do, it BECAUSE i assume that he. DOES
Speaker 3: i hope someone's not, like, man you see what this
Speaker 3: guy tweeded, today and then he's just, like would be?
Speaker 1: Good what If Ernie ernie gets on the bag for him?
Speaker 3: Once WHEN i was wondering that would be?
Speaker 1: Cool, Right ernie doesn't even want to go, back, THOUGH i,
Speaker 1: mean how could he possibly do that after what he?
Speaker 1: Said i'll tell you. What this Is Carlos ortiz's, brother Al.
Speaker 1: Varro he can.
Speaker 3: Really, play And carlos is, caddying RIGHT i?
Speaker 1: Think? So, Yeah i'm pretty. Sure yeah, Yeah SO i,
Speaker 1: mean what would you place the odds On Haveland? Haveland
Speaker 1: uh low am.
Speaker 3: Uh i'm bad of making, odds But I'M i think
Speaker 3: that's a pretty strong.
Speaker 1: That like two to one.
Speaker 3: Probably probably unless they all just missed the, WELL i don't,
Speaker 3: yeah probably two to one for to, ONE i don't,
Speaker 3: know BUT i MEAN i, THINK i, THINK i think
Speaker 3: what else we? Got Devin bling was the runner up
Speaker 3: and he just waxed. HIM i, Mean hovelin is just
Speaker 3: by far the best pedigree of the. Group The japanese
Speaker 3: player who won the one The Asia pacific is pretty.
Speaker 1: Good oh yeah he.
Speaker 3: Is he won't finished second In Japan. Open he. DID
Speaker 3: i can't remember his.
Speaker 1: NAME i wanted To Takumi. Kanaya yeah. HE i think
Speaker 1: he did really well in The Australian open, Too yeah he, Did,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. HE i mean think this is the. Thing
Speaker 1: so we got like a historically small field this.
Speaker 3: Year, yeah which is it's also probably. Good it looks
Speaker 3: like a thunderstorms in the. Forecast just a, hot thunderstormy
Speaker 3: week that's.
Speaker 1: Not good for. Golf means that it will be a
Speaker 1: bunch of leader board. Though, yeah if you were going
Speaker 1: to give one player an, exemption could be a young,
Speaker 1: kid could be could be a college, player could be
Speaker 1: a could be a wily vet who would.
Speaker 3: You already know my? ANSWER i already know my, answer
Speaker 3: an exemption into augusta, yeah Having Matthew wolf, Right.
Speaker 1: Ah, NO i don't. KNOW i would go with an old.
Speaker 3: GUY i would LOVE i mean the number one amateur
Speaker 3: in the, world Which wolf just took that spot From.
Speaker 3: Hoveling he gets into THE Us open and The British.
Speaker 3: OPEN i love to see him The masters. Too, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: TRUE i think that would be a good.
Speaker 3: MOVE i, mean professionals have had their chances to. Qualify
Speaker 3: wolf didn't even get to play in The master or
Speaker 3: in THE Us amateurs. Injured SO i think just to make,
Speaker 3: THAT i, mean he obviously would have finished first or
Speaker 3: second if he had, played SO i think to rectify.
Speaker 3: That augustine obviously should give him a special. Exemption.
Speaker 1: Yeah mark cow has been really good. Too Mark cow
Speaker 1: is like sleepy great.
Speaker 3: Worst finish this year is fifth in like ten.
Speaker 1: Events he's having like the greatest college season that nobody's
Speaker 1: noticing Because Matt.
Speaker 3: Wolfe uh, yeah but did you see my tweet About
Speaker 3: tiger's college scoring? Average m, hm So. Tiger When tiger
Speaker 3: won eight Times, collage that's the Record tiger And Matt,
Speaker 3: hill that's the Record Matt wolfe is going. For When
Speaker 3: tiger won eight times in his sophomore season At, stanford
Speaker 3: his scoring average was seventy point sixty. One that would
Speaker 3: rank fifty first in the. Nation this. Season wolf's scoring
Speaker 3: average is like sixty seven point, seven and so is More,
Speaker 3: cola and so Is hoblin up. There this it's, Wild
Speaker 3: it's it's a totally DIFFERENT i, mean obviously technology that
Speaker 3: has a big part to do with. It there are
Speaker 3: there's nineteen guys with a sub seventy scoring.
Speaker 1: Average that's that's absolutely.
Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah so it actually Goes wolf sixty seven point ninety,
Speaker 3: five More kawa sixty eight point, Four hovelin's sixty eight point.
Speaker 1: Seven what's amazing to me is that the scoring average
Speaker 1: and professional golf hasn't done, this like how they've been
Speaker 1: able to combat. It do you think it's because they
Speaker 1: think they golf manipulate the scoring as much at a college. Setup,
Speaker 1: YEAH i think.
Speaker 3: Professional golf you just, moved like you moved to a new.
Speaker 3: VENUE i, mean because you can go to bigger venues
Speaker 3: because they have more land also for you, know all
Speaker 3: that goes along with the professional. Event so you move
Speaker 3: from you, know like this week you move from loch In,
Speaker 3: terra which was like sixty seven sixty one hundred yard
Speaker 3: long part seventy TO Tpc San, antonio which is like
Speaker 3: seventy four seventy five hundred, yards whereas you, know they're
Speaker 3: playing courses here where they're just you, know a course
Speaker 3: isn't building Like New te's because they host a college
Speaker 3: event once a. Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that's it's it's so, True so that that
Speaker 1: kind of explains, why, like, well like they've just lengthened
Speaker 1: courses or moved to bigger venues to keep the scoring At.
Speaker 3: BAY i, mean if guys played lock In terra this,
Speaker 3: WEEK i, mean it would be, gosh it would be
Speaker 3: we probably multiple scores in the fifties because even back,
Speaker 3: then guys are shooting a bunch of sixty ones and sixty.
Speaker 1: Twos m all, Right i'm gonna throw, Ah i'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw a couple questions at, you some rapid. Fires let's
Speaker 1: do it that? Work? Yeah you ready for?
Speaker 3: HIM i am all?
Speaker 1: Right who has a better? Finish ricky Or? Ram?
Speaker 3: Who? UH i? Am My my first instinct Is, Ricky
Speaker 3: BUT i feel like that might be. WRONG i feel
Speaker 3: Like rom's been really steady this, year and they both
Speaker 3: played pretty. Good ricky's, one, Obviously i'm Gonna i'm gonna Say,
Speaker 3: ricky all?
Speaker 1: Right xander Or? Fee?
Speaker 3: Now. Peta peta made few his Favorite.
Speaker 1: Okay that was.
Speaker 3: Crazy that was that was a little that was, high
Speaker 3: that was. AGGRESSIVE i am going to go both have
Speaker 3: cooled a little. Bit i'm gonna go Was Xander casey Or.
Speaker 3: Fleetwood i'm gonna Go. CASEY i just feel like he's
Speaker 3: a machine on that golf, course.
Speaker 1: All, Right and last one we'll do two, more two,
Speaker 1: more Go rory Or. Rose.
Speaker 3: RORY i think he'll just finish top ten. Again.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed, Hey rose is going to finish top ten.
Speaker 3: Too, yeah that's. RIGHT i Mean rose is crazy good.
Speaker 3: THERE I i Still i'm gonna go still.
Speaker 1: The, rory and then we'll Go tiger Or.
Speaker 3: Phil i'm gonna Go. Tiger phil's record there the last
Speaker 3: few years has not been that. GOOD i remember there's
Speaker 3: a there's been a few years WHERE i picked him
Speaker 3: because he was playing well and it just didn't end up.
Speaker 1: Well ever since he busted out the tin man, outfit
Speaker 1: thinks have gone. Awry favorite outfit of all. Time this
Speaker 1: is a ten man.
Speaker 3: Outfit David, POLTON i think it is who tweets out
Speaker 3: like really good old videos and. Photos had one today
Speaker 3: Of Tony jacqueline in like an all live green.
Speaker 1: Outfit, dude the style of players in like the eighties
Speaker 1: and seventies was so.
Speaker 3: Good, yeah oh, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable what do you think About tiger going with the.
Speaker 3: VACH i was looking at it because someone said it
Speaker 3: was a, blade and Then i'm, like, no this is the.
Speaker 3: Mock and THEN i, look he wore the mock in
Speaker 3: two thousand and, five so maybe he's just trying to
Speaker 3: channel his. FIVE i should have a question for. You
Speaker 3: this is a DEBATE i had With Sean. Zach he
Speaker 3: has that great podcast to pod on like any other
Speaker 3: where they watch Old. Masters he Calls tiger's chip on
Speaker 3: sixteen o five the greatest shot ever hit In master's.
Speaker 3: HISTORY i told him That Jeene sarazon would like to
Speaker 3: have a word with, him BUT i, THINK i, mean
Speaker 3: there is a point we got into where The Gene sarazen,
Speaker 3: ONE i, mean how you have to hit it really,
Speaker 3: well but there's a certain amount of. Luck The tiger
Speaker 3: one is just a death touch that people don't. Have
Speaker 3: SO i could make a case for. BOTH i still
Speaker 3: think that If twitter had been around for a guy
Speaker 3: making a double eagle on fifteen On sunday to force a, playoff,
Speaker 3: uh it would have. Exploded SO i still say, that
Speaker 3: BUT i CAN i could see why you can make
Speaker 3: a case For Tiger.
Speaker 1: Chippin, YEAH I. Uh the bigger QUESTION i would have
Speaker 1: with that is Was dustin's drive At kapalua greater than?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: No, YEAH i Would that's just that's actually like a
Speaker 1: really hard. QUESTION i, mean like you have to think
Speaker 1: The sarazen shot just because of how far away he,
Speaker 1: was think about the equipment he was using.
Speaker 3: From two thirty five and nineteen thirty.
Speaker 1: Five that's like the equivalent of like two seventy today
Speaker 1: right over. Water maybe more than.
Speaker 3: That, yeah if you mis hit that thing at, all
Speaker 3: it's going in the. Water you're not covering two thirty.
Speaker 3: Five well with a mis, hit if.
Speaker 1: You mishit, it might not even get to the. Water
Speaker 1: that's a good.
Speaker 3: Point that's what he's. Thinking IF i don't IF i
Speaker 3: don't hit this on the screws and short of the,
Speaker 3: water AND i just chip.
Speaker 1: Up that's. It THE i WAS i was reading something
Speaker 1: about an old tournament. YESTERDAY i was doing some uh
Speaker 1: some research For Flashback, friday and, uh and THE i
Speaker 1: was reading about a guy he missed from the. Fairway
Speaker 1: he missed a green forty yards, short AND i was
Speaker 1: thinking to, myself, like and he was in the, lead
Speaker 1: how is that even? POSSIBLE i.
Speaker 3: Could see it forty.
Speaker 1: Yards short of agreed from the.
Speaker 3: Faraway if YOU i, mean you're take an old nineteen
Speaker 3: Fifties wilson's staff and a marshallow ballata and you hit
Speaker 3: it on the. Toe it's not going.
Speaker 1: Anywhere, yeah it was a crazy, Miss like that miss was.
Speaker 1: Existent IT'S i, guess, YEAH i. THINK i, Mean tiger's
Speaker 1: shot was so. GOOD i think there are just like
Speaker 1: there's so many underrated shots right that get swept Like
Speaker 1: tiger's shot was, iconic but then there are like what
Speaker 1: About sergio's at fifteen the year he.
Speaker 3: Won hitting the? Stick, yeah, yeah it'd.
Speaker 1: Be and then you think about like when he hit
Speaker 1: the ball into the woods on thirteen that you're in
Speaker 1: and didn't lose.
Speaker 3: It, yeah THAT i, mean and Tied Justin, rose WHO
Speaker 3: i want to, say it's the. FAIRWAY i Think rose
Speaker 3: might have even Been rose on two or is right
Speaker 3: around the green and two he's just and they, tied and.
Speaker 1: Then and then he hit that shot on. Fifteen that
Speaker 1: shot on fifteen was one of the most amazing. Shots,
Speaker 1: Yeah i've seen because So tiger's chip right that that
Speaker 1: was a great, shot great, Touch it went in.
Speaker 3: Underrated. ONE i THINK i was lien to Shan zo's
Speaker 3: pot they're doing ninety seven WAS i want to say.
Speaker 3: That it Was tiger's first hole with Cal montgomery in
Speaker 3: the third, round and you Know monty had been kind
Speaker 3: of to had been kind of just Downplaying tiger's true,
Speaker 3: ability and So tiger sent it like eighty yards by
Speaker 3: him on the first, hole just send a. Message and
Speaker 3: Then tiger SHOT i think seventy And colmntgomery showt eighty.
Speaker 1: One the uh did you see that? THING i tweeted
Speaker 1: From peter's book about. That, no so. Manty so here's
Speaker 1: here's an. Excerpt this is From Joe peter's book twenty
Speaker 1: Nineteen Masters. Preview very good.
Speaker 3: READ i read.
Speaker 1: That it's a quick. Reread highly recommend. It it's it's
Speaker 1: like eleven bucks and On amazon and you'll get it
Speaker 1: before The. Masters he does this strokes gained. Analysis it's unbelieve.
Speaker 1: Stuff so here's from his. Book it took it only
Speaker 1: Took Colin, montgomery then the third rank golfer in the,
Speaker 1: world playing one round With tiger at The masters to
Speaker 1: go from a hopeful challenger eager to take on the young,
Speaker 1: pro to demoralized foe and true. Believer montgomery began the
Speaker 1: third round of the ninety Seven masters in second place
Speaker 1: and was and as, such was paired With, woods the tournament,
Speaker 1: leader after thirty six holes for their third. Round when
Speaker 1: he spoke to reporters afterwards that normally cocky and Brash
Speaker 1: scottsman stood twelve strokes Behind woods and was asked about
Speaker 1: the prospect Of woods blowing his nine shot, lead knowing
Speaker 1: that he just knowing what he'd just witnessed first, hand he,
Speaker 1: said there's no chance humanly. Possible reporters reminded him that
Speaker 1: just a year, Before norman had blown a seemingly insturmontal
Speaker 1: lead On, sunday to Which montgomery, Replied Greg norman's Not Tiger.
Speaker 3: Woods SO i was WHEN i never won a, major right,
Speaker 3: WELL i tweeted, Today tiger was the REIGNING Us amateur.
Speaker 3: Champion when he won by Twelve it'd be like If
Speaker 3: Victor holland rolled in the town and one by twelve.
Speaker 3: Shots it's.
Speaker 1: Wild so this is.
Speaker 3: The quote For monty that Got tiger fired. Up is
Speaker 3: From John stragie's Biography. Tiger When tiger first turned. Pro
Speaker 3: before the third, Round monty, says if he decides to
Speaker 3: do what he's, doing well more credit to. Him we'll
Speaker 3: all shake his hand and say well. Done But i've
Speaker 3: got more experience in major golf than he, has and
Speaker 3: HOPEFULLY i can prove. That and then, yeah he says
Speaker 3: The so then afterwards he, says ALL i have to
Speaker 3: say today is one brief. Comment this Is. Monty there's no.
Speaker 3: Chance we're all human beings, here but there's no chance
Speaker 3: humanly possible That tiger is just going to lose this.
Speaker 3: Tournament no. Way so after a brief, pause someone boldly
Speaker 3: asked why he would say. That montgomery says to the,
Speaker 3: reporter have you just come in or have you been?
Speaker 3: Away have you been on holiday and just? Arrived how about? This,
Speaker 3: yeah the shade that he throws At Greg norman was pretty.
Speaker 3: Strong but then Also Constantino, roka who played in the
Speaker 3: final group Of. Tiger rocca's quote before the final round
Speaker 3: was to CATCH i would probably need a, gun which is.
Speaker 3: LITTLE i know what he's, saying but let's.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine if you said that in today's. World,
Speaker 1: yeah like Like Constantine roca uh threatening to Kill tiger
Speaker 1: was young tour pro can't can't beat young young phenom
Speaker 1: on the, course so takes to. VIOLENCE i think about
Speaker 1: that all the, time all the stuff that people used
Speaker 1: to say that one would be just completely. Ridiculous and
Speaker 1: this is even like ten years.
Speaker 3: Ago uh, Yeah like if you watch.
Speaker 1: A comedy movie from ten years, ago you're, like what?
Speaker 1: Right but how is? This you know this would not
Speaker 1: be acceptable? Today, Right so, Hey I'm i'm gonna let you,
Speaker 1: go but we gotta get you on the. Hook who's
Speaker 1: your who's your?
Speaker 3: Pick uh hit? Day i'm gonna Go. RORY i think
Speaker 3: he gets it.
Speaker 1: Done you almost did it.
Speaker 3: Well hideki's a close, second BUT i couldn't pull the.
Speaker 1: Trigger he's you, know he's he's got good. Eyes at
Speaker 1: forty five could be a good.
Speaker 3: Yeah Jamie kennedy tweeted about. That he, said like this
Speaker 3: player at forty five to one and was like second
Speaker 3: in stroscreened approach like three straight top tens At augusta or.
Speaker 3: Something augusta is actually where The hideki things. STARTED i
Speaker 3: gotta tell the story real. Quick hideki was. Playing he
Speaker 3: won The asian. Amateurs so he's Playing augusta as an
Speaker 3: amateur and he shoot sixty eight in the third round pretty,
Speaker 3: early walks off the golf course like in the top fifteen,
Speaker 3: Maybe AND i go to another, Writer i'm, like, hey
Speaker 3: you gonna go Get hideki and he's, like, no one
Speaker 3: of our interns is going and get. Him and so
Speaker 3: then ever since, THEN i was, like, MAN i like
Speaker 3: not getting the respect he. Deserves he was if he
Speaker 3: was a nineteen year Old american collegiate, kid, like we'd
Speaker 3: be freaking. Out but so then that was MY i
Speaker 3: made my life's mission to uh to Give hideki the
Speaker 3: credit he was.
Speaker 1: Doing ever since, then The hidekie JUST i think that's
Speaker 1: the same WAY i feel About Sea. Wu But Sea
Speaker 1: wu's Not. Hideki, Unfortunately.
Speaker 3: No hidecki was top two hundred in the world ranking
Speaker 3: before he turned.
Speaker 1: Fro who's who's A are you most impressed? With SUNG?
Speaker 3: Jm that's another Guy i'm, Like, man If SUNG jm
Speaker 3: was like A jordan's, speed we'd be, like this is. Amazing,
Speaker 3: uh he's pretty. Impressive HE'S i, mean he's been very,
Speaker 3: Consistent he's been on the board a. Lot he hasn't
Speaker 3: had the best weekends like, closing but he's been knocking
Speaker 3: on the door the.
Speaker 1: Clusters he's getting into the. Clusters that.
Speaker 3: All you can do is get get into contention and
Speaker 3: then lets the chips ball where they. May.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah THAT'S i, mean that's all golf, is because
Speaker 1: the more times you're, there the more comfortable you, are
Speaker 1: the more chances you have.
Speaker 3: Winning is so. WEIRD i mean you think at a
Speaker 3: time where a guy is sitting in a clubhouse and
Speaker 3: some guy bod he's, eighteen and then that means the
Speaker 3: guy in the clubhouse, wins and it's like you had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with, that.
Speaker 1: Or just like the crazy bounces that. Happened we just
Speaker 1: talked About sergio when he found the ball in the
Speaker 1: woods he somehow avoided that was like we thought that
Speaker 1: you're watching that and you're, like, oh Here's sergio's, meltdown
Speaker 1: because there's always you, know there always was one in
Speaker 1: major and then, yeah it. Does think About phil from
Speaker 1: The Pine straw the one. Year, YEAH i saw That
Speaker 1: ernie that year shot the single greatest strokes gained final.
Speaker 1: Round yeah at The. Master, yeah and he lost To phil.
Speaker 3: Or Even DeMarco's chip in two thousand and. Five it
Speaker 3: had a little bit of, speed BUT i don't. Know
Speaker 3: it's got a good part of the hole and part
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 1: Stick Justin ray texted me a stat THAT i gotta
Speaker 1: gotta throw out. Here this is a, crazy crazy. Stat
Speaker 1: it's About Larry Larry. MICE i know you just appreciate.
Speaker 1: This So Larry mice has made two of the last
Speaker 1: four cuts of The.
Speaker 3: Masters porter tweeted this, out but go, on despite it's.
Speaker 1: Different, Okay Larry mice has made two of the last
Speaker 1: four cuts of The masters despite losing forty two shots
Speaker 1: to the field on t shots and approach.
Speaker 3: Shots, okay that was What. Porter porter tweeted cuts made
Speaker 3: in the last Five. Masters larry miyes Three tiger.
Speaker 1: Two he's lost forty two shots to the.
Speaker 3: Field so what's his strokes? Game putting like plus six?
Speaker 1: Round, yeah it's something. Astronomical that is.
Speaker 3: AMAZING i THINK i have it.
Speaker 1: Here he's, Uh Larry mice.
Speaker 3: Is uh what are these sixty?
Speaker 1: Now he's averaging a strokes gained a stroke gained per
Speaker 1: per round the last four. Years it's pretty. Good that,
Speaker 1: is it's really. Good but That Larry, mice the legend
Speaker 1: is he going to make the cut this? Year what
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Sixty that's a good, beat that's a good prop.
Speaker 3: BET i think he missed it last. YEAR i think he,
Speaker 3: FINALLY i think he made it last. Year did he really?
Speaker 1: Well he made It hagastads. YEAR i remember that because
Speaker 1: because The HAGASTAD i think was paired With steward and
Speaker 1: uh and.
Speaker 3: My mies missed it in twenty, eighteen finished fifty second
Speaker 3: in twenty, seventeen.
Speaker 1: And they made it in twenty. Sixteen, yeah, okay that's.
Speaker 3: All.
Speaker 1: Right, well, hey it's been it's been a. Pleasure i'm
Speaker 1: sure you'll Be. Uh i'll probably talk to you on
Speaker 1: one of the either this or the shotgun start before
Speaker 1: the end of the.
Speaker 3: Week sounds. Good i'll see In.
Speaker 1: Augusta safe, travels enjoy the, drive enjoy the. Solitude some
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Speaker 1: Right i'll talk to you, Soon. Sean thanks for the.
Speaker 3: Time good see. You