WEBVTT - Ep. 425: The Liberal Redneck 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eat podcast coming at you, shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.599 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening. You can't 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:24.440 predict anything presented by first Light, creating proven versatile hunting 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:29.240 apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear for every hunt, 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:36.160 First Light, Go Farther, stay longer, Ready, Phil, you got 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.680 it on? Well? How you even know when it actually started? 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.960 I'll figure that. Make sure to introduce everybody. Stick of 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.159 my dad telling me about God. Tell your dad how 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:54.160 to read? Come on, who does that podcast description? Yeah? 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.720 All right, that's what I'll tell him. Steve's answer to 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.840 you is reading the podcast description like everybody. You can. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:06.360 You can learn how to spell it and everything. All right, everybody. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.640 Joined today by comedian and commentator Trey Crowder. Yeah you might. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.520 You might know him as you might know him as 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:19.000 the liberal redneck or Chattanooga Phil chat Charlie. Yeah, we're 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.760 gonna get to that in a minute. Also also by 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:27.400 our beautiful lovely engineer Phil Krin's here nest is here? Okay, 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.840 chattan Uga Charlie. You were you're you're fixing talking about 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.520 chattan Nuga Charlie. Yeah, you asked if I had been 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.000 any TV shows and said, I played this guy Chattanooga 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.200 Charlie and Veronica Mars. I was like, you know, quite 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.160 a stretch. Obviously they had to show my range, but yeah, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.600 I know a guy from Tennessee they could do this, right. Yeah, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.880 and another while I get to that in a minute, 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.040 but you said, so, like, what kind of character was it? 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.560 And so John Mullaney, this great comic, had this whole 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.480 bit making fun of law and Order, and he's like, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.640 I love how they always go to interview some bartender 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.440 and this guy like refuses to stop stacking by boxes 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.520 to discuss the horrific murder that has occurred, right, yeah, right, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.440 And I said I was one of those guys like 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.400 it was. It's set in like southern California, but it's 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.120 a Southern themed restaurant owned by Chattanooga Charlie, and there's 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.919 been a series of bombings and so like I'm sweeping 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.000 up peanuts while talking about these terrorist attacks or whatever. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.799 But that's pretty much it. It was a lot of fun, though, Oh, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.760 I was gonna say after and I normally don't read 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.440 comments like this because you know, I'll get fired up 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.079 or whatever. But when those episodes came out. I saw 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.720 a lot of people on the internet being like, I 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.720 thought this episode was pretty good, but like that Chattanooga 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.640 Charlie guy. I don't know what that accent was supposed 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.360 to be. But that's not that is not Tennessee. I 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.720 hope he realizes that. Good luck to him in the future. Yeah, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.000 it was terrible. People think that my accents fake all 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.160 the time, like all the time. You know, well, I 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.639 can imagine living in la and oh, I mean out 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.920 there for sure, but out there, like yeah, people will 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.000 compliment me on it. They'll be like, oh, I love 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.760 that accent. I mean, if it's real, Like if that's 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.320 your real accent, I don't know if it's because like 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.839 so I think you're a methodist. That's exactly what. Yeah, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.919 we're in Hollywood. Maybe they're like, oh, maybe he's prepping 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.040 for a role as a possum detective. But uh, but 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.440 I'm talking about on the internet and stuff. You know, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.040 people just don't I don't know, they don't buy it. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.799 But this is all Clay County, Tennessee. You're right here. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:28.120 This is just what it is. When you when you tour, 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.480 when you tour for you for stand up, you tour 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.600 as the liberal redneck. No, I just tour as Tray Crowder. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.920 So yeah, when your commentary, like you have your commentary bits, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.760 is well, how I became familiar with you. Yeah, and 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.680 that's true for most people, and like, uh, but I 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.720 didn't want to be like, you know, I purely identified 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.800 as a character or whatever, like, because I was doing 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.040 stand up for six years in Knoxville and around the 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.880 South before I ever put those videos out, and I 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.920 was always just Tray Crowder on stage. So I kept 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.119 doing that. So when you start doing your commentary video 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.360 as you kind of launched that character, and I mean, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.280 it's it's a character and that it's like me cranked 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.000 up a little bit or whatever. But I had a 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.960 I had been doing a bit about that on stage 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.840 at the time, like basically just talking about how everybody 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.839 thinks my accent means a certain thing because that's the 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.400 only thing they ever see this accent portrayed as in 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.400 the media or whatever. So I wanted to balance the 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.840 scales by being just as crazy and redneck in public, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.080 but saying a bunch of superliberal stuff that should throw 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.320 people off or whatever, and I would do that on stage. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.680 It worked. It worked in like Southern clubs and everything 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.000 like it was working, and I told my friends, I 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.520 think I want to do a like an internet video 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.240 series based on that idea, and everybody's like, you totally 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.640 should do that. It sounds like a great idea. And 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.040 then uh, finally I got around to it, and then yeah, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.720 that's the thing that blew up and sort of allowed 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.440 me to go full time and everything, and it's what 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.800 most people know me for. But have you have you 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.440 seen the curb your enthusiasm where Larry You know, he 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.040 doesn't like ever have to talk to anybody, so he 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.240 gets he loves in LA and he does like to 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.160 talk aboys some one day he gets himself and to 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.440 make America great again. Hat. Yeah, like nobody where he 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.320 goes don't says anything to him. Yeah, so he's sitting 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.360 a restaurant, no one sits by him. Yeah, I mean 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.880 that he finally gets to live his dream of having 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.920 zero social interaction. It definitely would be would be useful 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.440 out there, but but I only every time I see 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.080 somebody in one of those hats in LA, they're usually 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.560 like doing the talking for everybody else, Like they're in 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.240 a gas station up by the clerk just like going 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:40.400 in on you know, inflation or whatever. But I just 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.960 wanted to clarify the commentary that we're speaking of his 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.120 stuff that's on Instagram and I put them on all 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.120 the social media okay side YouTube. Yeah, it's like it's 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.760 like Twitter to tell you what it is. First off, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.679 news commentary, Yeah, common current event. I'll take like something 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.440 that just happened, and then I'll do a little like 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.640 comedic rant about it. And I always, dude, try to 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.600 like actually put jokes into it so it's not just 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.800 like Soapbox Center or whatever, because like I you know, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.960 I'm a comedian. I want them to be funny and 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.839 I have this is my real accent, and I'm a progressive, 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.040 so like, I mean there you go. You know, well, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.720 like people at first, like people are like there's a 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.960 lot of people in the South that you know who 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.000 are also like me, who when they see it, their 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.840 reactions like, oh, finally somebody who like both sounds and 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.960 thinks the way I do. Right. But and then the 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.520 people in like the rest of the country, like on 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.279 the coast and stuff, they're like, well, this is neat. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.839 I didn't know this was a thing. You like, you're 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.400 like seeing a unicorn, you know, like it's a novelty. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.760 You know what I was trying to today when I 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.080 was driving around driving my kid in school, I was 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.039 telling about who's coming out on the show, and I 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.000 got to talk about I had to explain the terms, right. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.400 I was like, you know, this guy is like the 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.360 liberal redneck, and I said, I was trying to think 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.880 of what's the opposite of a liberal redneck and to 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.200 be that I come up with us. Remember William F. Buckley, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:08.800 It's like like the very austere British conservative guy, and 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.160 there's like that's the opposite of a little redneck would 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.640 be William F. Buckley Junior. You know that the best 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:19.880 I come up with conservative barraste might be a little 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.560 bit more understood. Kids. I'll try it when I get 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.480 home for dinner night. I'll try it. H speaking of 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.280 my kids kind of man, we were in um we're 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.480 in so we went down to Baja for spring break 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.720 and we're coming home, like I see this thing that 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.400 I see like a like a there's a guy standing 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.600 in there. There's something like just so distracting where he's 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.680 like a fit, thin dude, but he's got one of 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.080 those he's got like you know when you get like 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.000 a like a big beer gut that just hangs real 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:59.880 flat down over your belt. Yeah, and that realized those 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:08.720 fanny pack made to look like a big hairy like 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.600 fanny pack made it look like a big hairy gut 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.200 hanging out of your T shirt. Classic dude. I kept 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.240 being like, what is that? It doesn't match his skin. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.480 They call that a dumb lap. No, they oh, I 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.080 don't know, you're belly dun lapped over your belt. I 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.320 like that, but man we um. Yeah, we had a 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.360 great time. We did a lot of spearfishing down in Baja. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.240 And then I had something um like, if you look 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.800 at the fishing regulations in Mexico, which is always confusing. Um, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.240 they got, so you don't need any license to fish 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.120 from the beach. Okay, so any saltwater fishing from the beach, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.880 no license. There's a license for fishing from the boat. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.520 But I actually got checked in Mexico by like the 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.800 Baja version of a game warden and got a warning 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.160 because he said you need a fishing license. It's very 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.240 hard to get through this conversation because I don't speak 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.760 ship for Spanish, and he knew like some English. So 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.600 he was trying to help me out. It's like, you 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.800 need a fishing license, man, because I'm fishing from the shore. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.240 But then there's a third category that I think they 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.520 added it in recently, is so there's fishing from the shore, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.800 there's fishing from a boat, and then there's fishing underwater. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.960 Oh so you're a spear fishing You mean underwater? Right 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.920 underwater from the shore. You need a license? Huh I 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.920 got off on a warning. Did you recognize you? No? 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.160 Definitely not. Uh. Okay, people got it right in here. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:48.240 We need to do so we need what should where 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:53.079 are they supposed to send these uh to meat eater 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.600 at the meat eater dot com. Normal spot. Yeah, we'll 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:02.120 do normal spot, and but they should title it chettikett. Okay, 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.920 so we know what to look for. Yeah, we have 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.200 we have a call for submissions. We're doing a show 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.320 all about etiquette, which really to call Chettikette because we 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.480 use our etiquette guy Chester to help us wade through 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.880 etiquette problems. We get all kinds of etiquette things anyways, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:22.000 like recently the guys that play leap frog with their 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.079 tree stands on the same tree on State Land where 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.880 they always moved their climber above the other guy's climber 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.720 and all that etiquette questions or like, um, you know, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:38.439 you take your There's a guy that takes his brother 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.440 in law hunting at a spot, but then his brother 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.680 in law, his sister, and his brother in law get divorced, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.360 and the brother in law keeps going to the spot 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.199 and he feels like how could that because they got divorced, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.800 so you can't go to the spot anymore. Shit like 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.640 that etiquette questions, chetica questions. You got to send us 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:59.440 a shitload of chetika questions. How did Chester become the 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.160 etiquette guy? I don't know. I don't know how that happened. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.679 I think I think largely because etiquette sounds because Chatticotte 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.719 is funny. Yeah, that's usually how they go around. Like 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.200 there's no real reason other than we were talking about 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.600 etiquette one day and someone made the joke about Chetticutte 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.840 and he's like, he's a very ethical kind Yeah. Oh 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.679 you know how it was too is we were we 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.320 were talking about boat launch etiquette, right, Yes, there's a 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.079 bunch of questions about boat launch etiquette, and Chester, having 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.720 been a fishing guide, had a lot of opinions about 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:39.320 how to how one should get their boat in the 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.880 water in prompt fashion when add a crowded boat launch, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.800 and so someone made the Chatticott joke. So it's not 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.720 like he's particularly credential necessarily. It's just that Cheticott sounds funny, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:58.360 and jannice E tikuittunny j Yeah, it sounds like another 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:05.120 disease bad casey. Oh. Also it's late. We got to 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.520 throw a birthday wish to Carter Hudson, who just turned 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.320 eleven the other day on St. Patty's Day. Whenever someone 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:19.160 on this podcast swears he the uh, Carter's dad has 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.160 to explain to his wife why it's okay that he 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.680 listens to his show that has cussing in it. Loves 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.760 the show. He didn't quite read that right. He says 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.360 that everything that you do, the kid also does. So 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.600 the kid's like, well, if Steve's cussing on his show, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.440 I can cuss two and his dad has to explain 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.920 that that's okay. Oh, there's value. We're really really cleaned. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:50.120 Um it up. I think big times. It's the show 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.480 is laughing. Well, it's just I also edit bear grease 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:59.280 and there's some very different sensorship rules. He's got a 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.120 guest that says, I don't know what the hell I 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.800 was hearing. It'll be like I didn't know what the 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:12.360 baby was here? Yeah? What Sam? Pretty much? So happy 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:19.160 birthday to to Carter Hudson Nanks his dad Morgan for 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.000 right and in um northing. Speaking of kids, So this 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.680 is so we've been talking a bunch about the book 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.000 you've been working on, which isn't out yet, but we 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.160 have a new kids activity book, Catch a Crayfish Count 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.000 the Stars, availed for pre order now. Now. We announced 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:39.240 this book on Amazon. There's if you scroll away, beep 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.640 down on Amazon. It's a ranking of all books being 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.600 sold at Amazon at any given time. When we announced 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.120 that Catch a Crayfish Count the Stars was up for 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.680 pre orders, I'm holding my hand right now. I'm holding 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.320 the facts simile of it in my hand right now. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:58.080 Fun Project Skills and Adventures for Outdoor Kids. It shot 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.160 up to number three. Really yeah, that whiney bastard, uh 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:08.600 the King's kid he was still talk about talk about 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.480 chopping down the apple tree. What's he got left? Do 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.719 you know what I mean? Like? What like if you're 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.440 playing like a long media game. What's left? Yeah, he 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.480 already blew through the Netflix documentary and all the book tours. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.760 He did it all. He's like, it's so bad. I 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.720 don't have to work. I live in this big palace. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.160 First of all, my mom, like many people's mothers, died 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.760 and and then and I and I hate all that. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.760 It's like, what he What's he gonna do? Now? I 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.000 know he's like for a while he was like a 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:43.080 mental health expert. I guess, goodness gracious, so he was 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.600 still beating us. Well, do you think he put all 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.680 his money in that Silicon Valley bank so he'll he'll 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:53.560 be just fine. He did so catch crayfish, count the stars. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.960 So it's a here's the deal. It's a if you, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.120 if you're raising outdoor kids, do you want your kids 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.240 to feel to have a lot of projects in front 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:09.840 of them that will foster a sense of understanding for 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.840 the outdoors, a sense of comfort in the outdoors, knowledge 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.320 about the outdoors. It's a great book. A lot of 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.000 it's kind of dangerous. We had to put if you 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.400 read it, there's a lot of language like, no, this 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.240 is very dangerous. It's very dangerous because there's machetes and 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.480 stuff and fires and hatchets and everything in there. So 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.040 there's certain things that you got to do, projects that 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.720 your kids would need supervision on. There's certain things they 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.720 can do on their own. But it's everything arrangement from 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.280 like gardening stuff with understanding how gardening works and plants work, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.160 all kinds of foraging stuff, fishing stuff. If they're interested 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.840 in hunting for their own food, how to get them 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.160 up to speed on that, building their own sorts of 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:50.600 weapons like blowguns and frog gigs from natural materials. Basics 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.960 on navigation, navigation with the sun, navigation with stars, all 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.840 laid out and achievable. Little day projects, even a bunch 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.320 of stuff about in the home, So things that you 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.680 can do on bad days inside your house when you 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:08.440 can't get outside, that would really educate kids about ecology, biology, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:15.280 um even even some like basic principles of wildlife population dynamics. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.560 I helped write the piece about how to build a 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.840 PVC bow. There you go, that's easy, cheap and lots 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.400 of hours of fun. My kid killed a cotton tail 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.800 rabbit with one of those PVC bows. My nephew did 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.200 as well. No UM show, it'll show you how to 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.800 do that. It's it's it's a super cool book. I 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.800 listen to this. I heard a friend of mine in Wisconsin. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.560 His two boys who are probably I don't know, nine 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.080 and twelve, nine and thirteen, their project. As soon as 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.240 they get that book, they're gonna work on all summers. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.080 They're gonna launch their own YouTube channel and make a 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:56.720 video about doing every single activity in your book. Someone's 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.680 gonna get sued. I might sue these kids at the time. 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.560 I think that's a great, great idea. Oh, I just 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.240 saw someone sent me an article yesterday. There's a there's 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.520 a class action lawsuit a guy's doing against Buffalo Wild Wings. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.639 You hear this, Yeah, there's a class action lawsuit against 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.840 Buffalo Wild Wings because their boneless chicken wings aren't wings, 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:23.720 right to which Buffalo Wild Wings says, our buffalo wings 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:30.720 aren't Buffalo. Our hamburgers aren't ham Also, are anybody's bummless 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.720 wings wings? I don't think they are. They're all no. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.119 This guy like I was, this guy's like I was 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.879 led to believe I was eating a boneless wing and 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.400 it's not. Yeah, I think I read somewhere He's gonna 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.760 be disappointing when he finds out chickens don't have fingers either. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.720 It's funny. Thank you genuinely didn't know that. I didn't 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.600 I didn't catch the I didn't guess the finger one 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.440 because they had like that buffalo wings or zero percent buffalo. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.240 The hamburgers aren't him. That's some others. There's no sticks 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:11.040 and fish. Good lord, So back to the books. It 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.880 shifts in June. If you order now, um, you'll get 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.600 it in June. But you can order it now and 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:22.119 hopefully enough for you order it where Harry there gets 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.000 um does it line up that he would have got 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.280 his name because of Harry Potter? Or was he born 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:36.880 too early for that? M Thank goodness? Order now, Catch Crayfish, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.320 Count the Stars, Fun Project Skills and Adventures for outdoor kids. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.840 Order now and you get it later. And there's a 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.600 landing page. I can't remember what crink you put in 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.240 the show notes. There's a landing page, and go to 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:49.960 and read all about the book. So if you have 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.840 any kids in your life, nephews kids, grandkids, neighbor kids, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.359 local kids, seem like they were gonna head for a 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.440 life of trouble in crime. H get on this book 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.640 and get them turned around, and it'll give your kids 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.480 a raw edge to him, you know, tough little make 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:11.159 them tough little shits. Cridinal put the landing page thing 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.560 in there, and I don't know if it's still open, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:13.959 but for a while you could go in and like 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:21.200 sign up and get an early copy. So everybody do that. Oh, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.800 speaking of this kind of like speaking of kids, try 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.119 you got two kids, two boys? Okay. I was talking 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.680 one day about how I didn't like it that when 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:36.520 you went to the doctor, a first person comes, yeah, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.280 and they want to weigh or whatever, and then they 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.400 go what's going on? And you tell them some long story, right, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.239 Like you got two kids. I had it recently too, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.600 because I'm like, well, this one had this strap symptom 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.120 and then that went away, but then this one broke 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.240 out in these little spots all over him, and then 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.880 that one got that again, and then this one did 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.520 that and that led to both of them to have 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.920 this and now that one's fine, but this one's even sicker. Right, 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.200 And then the doctor comes in and they go, what's 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.560 going on? Yeah, right, yeah yeah. And then if if 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.520 it's some kind of specialist thing, like if you're not 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.080 having ever referral. You'll just have to go to two 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.280 other people and tell both of them what's going on 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.360 as well. It's just an endless stream of explaining what's 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.880 going on in various waiting rooms, bigger and smaller waiting areas. Yeah, 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.600 as it gets smaller, you get more hopeful. Yeah, maybe 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.720 they'll be here in a second. Right. So someone wrote 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.520 in about what that's all about. One thing it's all 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:37.960 about and I know this to be true because I've 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.440 seen it before. One thing it's about is you might 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.359 tell them a thing and they got to go study 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.560 up on them on Google. Yeah. Right, So if you like, 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.119 if you go in and say like, yeah, man, I 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.960 got trick and lsis from meeting raw bear meat, they're 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.960 gonna go be like he's got a what and they're 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.840 gonna go study up on Google. So when they come 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:55.159 in and you tell them, they can act like they 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.840 knew what was going on. Another problem they run and 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.239 do what's this person? Do their physicians assistant? So they 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.159 wrote in about what's actually happened and when all this 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.000 goes on. Another thing that's going on is people change 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:11.680 their stories all the time. The patience, yep, she said 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.960 the physician's assistant will come in and there's like they're like, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:15.679 what's what's going on. You're like, oh, this happened to 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.080 my kid, and they happened to my kid and now 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.160 here he is. And then the doctor come in. He'll 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.280 spin a different yarn, like the parent didn't like how 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.520 it sounded coming out, and so they'll read they'll like 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.560 edit the story. But when I went in, I just said, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.360 it's really complicated. Can I'll just explain it to the 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:35.440 main man the main doctor. My case, it was a female, 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.120 but I said I'll explain to them, and they're like, okay, cool. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.439 So I had no idea you could do that. But 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.639 what they're doing is there's it's a thing called locates. 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:49.720 Did you know about this anyone? They're asking you. There's 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:56.040 like a little anacronym of stuff they're asking you location, onset, character, alleviate, aggravate, timing, environment, 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.919 severity comes out to locates. They're after the locates. But 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.959 as I pointed out as a piece of medical unsolicited 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.200 medical advice is just say I'll just tell the someone later, 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.480 or you can like making recording and just play recording. 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:14.800 That'd be great. Then they can go as I was 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:16.560 saying to your colleague, coming, let me pull it up 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.200 my voice memo to play. This is what I said. 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.360 This is the problem, right, you listen to as many 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.720 times as you want. Um. This is you could have 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.440 even a little googling to the bottom if you want it. Yeah, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:33.639 Like I saved you because I know you're gonna be 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:38.560 go digging into web MD in a minute. UM. When 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.200 I was a boy, When I was a little boy, 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.280 they would have this thing. Every year. They would take 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:47.360 a UM. They would take one king salmon and put 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.520 a tag in it and turn it loose Lake Michigan, 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.359 And they did have a big fish in Derby. And 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.840 if you were to be so lucky as to catch 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.679 the king salmon that had the tag in it, you 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:06.160 win boku money. I've never heard this applied to mammals, however, 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.119 In South Dakota harvest a tag kyote get a free 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:16.480 hunt lifetime hunting license. Correction South Carolina, oh well, you 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.080 saved us a lot of time. On the next episode. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:25.040 South Carolina Department of Natural Resources released sixteen more tagged 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.480 kyote statewide recently. Is part of the Kyote Harvest Incentive 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:38.360 Program programs created in two sixteen mm. So they catch 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:42.160 some kyotes, they tag them, they release them for per 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:47.320 game zone, for game zones for kyotes. Anyone who successfully 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.000 takes and reports a tag kyote will be rewarded with 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:57.200 a free lifetime hunting a free lifetime hunting license. They 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.760 can debt. Here's where's Here's where they sweeten the pot. 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.680 Let's say you're getting up in years and if it's 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:04.920 not gonna do you a whole hell of a lot 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:10.320 of good. Right, say you're like forty nine, your star's fading, 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.960 you can you can give it to your kid, gifted 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.160 only that special one, right like the one you win, 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.639 the one you win, you could give your You can 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.000 say I would, I will bestow it upon my do 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.160 I'd like to bestow this upon my daughter and make 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.760 her a free lifetime hunting license. Did you anything? Is 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:37.560 it opening on rez? I've read that far yet over 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.919 the last seven years, did you see that in there? No? 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.399 I don't. Over the last seven years, one hundred and 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:48.880 twelve kyles have been tagged and released. Huh so far 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.240 under half? So in seven years under half, it's not 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.800 terribly descriptive. I would have just have given the number. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.760 I would have given the number, so somewhere between zero 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.359 and fifty six. Yeah, maybe they're just embarrassed of the 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:13.800 number somewhere under half, yeah, meaning somewhere between undrea are somewhere, 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.840 So somewhere between zero and fifty six. Yeah, because if 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.120 it said no one's gotten one yet, people aren't gonna 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.960 get fired up. They're not gonna feel like everyone around 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:28.560 you is winning. Um. Under half of the tag Kyleot 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:33.960 has been reported taken. Kyot's tagged in any year are 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:39.720 eligible for the life lifetime license. For information on the 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.280 Kyote Harvest Incentive Program, you can go to the DNR 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.080 South Caroline's DNR page. What I imagine they're trying to 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.399 get around is they're trying to get around the you know, 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.680 for a long time there was just flat out uh 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.760 bounty programs. I think they're they're striving for the bounty thing, 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.879 but they're trying to gus see it up, gussied up 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.600 in a more socially acceptable way. And it might be 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.120 like a little unsavory to some folks if they were 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.359 saying it's like cold heart cash. Is my guess of 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.960 what's happening there a little bit south of there in Florida, 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:21.000 a huge correction on Florida mountain lions. Chester should be 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.800 here because it's his fault. Yeah, that's true. We're doing 0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:28.080 an episode and I was throwing research questions to Chester 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.159 on the fly and he was messing them all up. 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.680 The episode was called Spitting and Strutting. We're discussing mountain 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.359 lions being relocated from Texas to Florida. Yanni was present. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.639 The gist of it was, I spent a couple of 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.280 weeks in Florida, and everywhere I went I got a 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:47.040 year fold from people about cougar recovery and the debate 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:54.560 around weather. Many people feel that cougary carvery has gotten 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.040 too successful. There has been too much leaning into and 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.359 making sack or faces on behalf of the species that 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.640 is not regarded to be imperiled anymore. And not only that, 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.600 and they're having a devastating impact on deer. Not only that, 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.960 but people were saying how it's not even the same 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.880 cougar that used to be here because they brought in 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.280 super cougars from Texas and I thought it was just 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.920 seven or eight. Chester got to reading on some crazy website, 0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.720 the Mountain Lion Foundation website, which is not like Wild 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.600 Turkey Foundation, you know, it's like, uh not Foundation's Rocking 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:35.120 mount Elk Foundation, Turkey Federation, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. It's 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:40.960 a it's like a animal rights organization. Anyhow, Chester got 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.680 to spewing off about all kinds of mountain lions brought 0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:49.400 down from Texas, which is not the case. They brought 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.200 in a total eight and it actually removed some, which 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.239 really surprised me. Some of the mountain lions that they 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.560 brought from Texas to Florida. So well, at its lowest number. 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.680 We got it right here. If you want a quick, 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:06.040 little more informed background on this issue, we covered just 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.640 quite well. Panthers used to be distributed everywhere, like everywhere 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.880 in the lower forty eight across much of Canada, Central America, 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:20.080 South America, from Tierra del Fuego to like you know, 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:27.119 possibly up into Yukon Territory Mackenzie Delta. Even maybe this 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.040 animals was the most widely distributed mammal in the New 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:34.400 World I think globally, right, most widely distributed animal Western Hemisphere, 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.880 let's go with that. As they got whittled away through 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:45.000 poisoning and other predator control things, bowing he's poisoning. You 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.520 wound up where they were kind of existing in the 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.320 wildest little corners, and the only population that held on 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.920 in the east east of the Mississippi. The only population 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:58.240 that held on was this little isolated pocket of them 0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:03.200 in southwest Florida. So from nineteen eighty six to nineteen 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.440 ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers, so this 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.400 is adults, not male, not like all males, not all females. 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:14.040 The limited the minimum number of adult panthers fluctuated from 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.080 twenty four to thirty two. I often use this as 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:23.320 the greatest piece of evidence against Bigfoot. Go back to 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.440 those years in South Florida when you had twenty to 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.640 thirty mountain lions. They're still getting hit every year on 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:36.160 the road. So few you have a population of a 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:41.440 couple dozen, and they're still getting hit every year on 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:49.600 the roads. But Bigfoot can go five hundred years. How 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.800 many of them exist though, there's gonna be enough to 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:57.360 make love and reproduce. There's no primate that lives forever. Also, 0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:03.240 maybe Bigfoot knows to look both ways. Well, let mister 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.080 smarty pants, maybe you know about the guy in Montana 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.360 that put a big Foot suit on and jumped out 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.200 in front of a car to incite a Bigfoot sighting. 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.360 It was just struck and killed. That was struck and 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:21.760 killed by two cars. That good. Why did he get hit? 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.959 It's a dumber than actual bigfoot. From nineteen eighty six 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.000 to nineteen ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.880 fluctuated from twenty four to thirty two. They brought in eight. 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.280 They put some males in. This is interesting. They put 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.800 some males in. Once they knew that those males had bread, 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.480 they pulled a couple of the mails back out. Another 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:51.000 correction is this from the This from the the journal. 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.720 This is from Science. Correct the journal Science. There is 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:59.840 no evidence in breeding is causing physical mail formations and 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:06.800 negatively affecting recovery. Oh sorry, take all that out, Phil, 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.840 I was wrong. Maybe leave it in. I don't know 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:16.200 you decide forget what I was just saying. Florida panthers, Okay, 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:21.040 Florida planthers were suffering from the effects of inbreeding, including 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:31.040 crypto chidism, low sperm quality. That's what I have, kink, 0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:39.080 no quality, kink tales, pelage, cowlicks, opportunistic infections in atrial 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:45.840 septal defects. So they brought in to save this couple 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:50.400 dozen animals. They brought in animals from Texas, eight not twenty. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.120 Whatever the hell Chester was thrown around, No, I think 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.280 he in total it was like close to forty that 0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.000 he added up over years. So now they got two hundred. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.240 Now they got a minimum of two hundred and fifty. 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.680 And now it's starting to cause a lot of consternation 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.320 among people who are feel sportsmen in Florida who are 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:19.200 feel that they're having access issues, poorer quality hunting because 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:23.520 of the great deference to this now recovered, this now 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.200 recovered species that they feel is somehow not quite the 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:32.560 same because it was supplemented with genes from outside. Take 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.960 your pick on that one. Waiting, let's get it. That 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.520 was okay for it. Apology not an apology correction, No apologies. 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.600 Another news bit. I were talking to these I met 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.600 this dude. So every year I go to, Yeah, every 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:04.840 year I go to I'm mceing this year the TRCP 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:09.880 Capitol Conservation Awards Dinner, in which TRCP they have an 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:15.680 annual function in Washington, d C. Where they honor Typically 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.880 they honor someone from the House, someone from the Senate, 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.920 and someone from each side of the aisle, so Democrat 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.280 and Republican House Senate, they honor them for conservation achievements, 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.800 and then they'll usually honor someone from the private sector. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.760 M seeing that event. I m sed last year and 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.760 met this dude who was working on his project, and 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.040 I told him I helped spread the word about his project. 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:42.640 When Teddy Roosevelt was in DC, he would walk down 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:48.720 to the Grace Reformed Church in Washington and Washington, d C. 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:55.959 He laid the cornerstone of the church. Okay, in nineteen 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.680 oh three. That was the year that Augustus Scofier published 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:05.560 his magnum opus lagid q lanaire and I believe it 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.920 was the first year of controlled flight by the Wright brothers. 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.439 If I'm not mistaken, just check that out, Yohnnie. That 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.279 year he delivered an address at the dedication of the church. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:21.399 He Teddy Roosevelt kind of the one of the one 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:26.279 of the fathers of modern conservation and a guy who 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:32.120 put in who preserved fifty thousand acres of American land 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.520 for every day that he was in office in the presidency, 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:43.239 worshiped there faithfully on Sundays during his vice presidency and presidency. 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.439 If he had to skip a service, he would write 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.360 a letter to the reverend of the church saying he 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:53.440 would be absent. Anyhow, the church is up for sale, 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.280 so what's gonna happen? Soone's gonna turn it into condos. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.560 But these guys have got this thing, say if Teddy's 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.440 Church dot com and they're trying to get the jingle necessary, 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.600 they need to raise six million bucks over the next 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.120 two years so they can buy the building and resuscitate 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:15.680 it and keep it as it is www dot save 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:20.319 Save Teddy's Church dot com. So if that speaks to 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:25.160 you an honor of UM one of our great wildlife 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:33.800 conservation land conservation heroes, UM, go check that out. I 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.359 don't know if I'm gonna get into this. We're we're 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.680 having quite a laugh about golf courses because there's this 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.160 golf course that needs to like move because the squirrels 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.680 are so mean. Do you're about this? The squirrels are 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.360 so mean that it's like driving golfers off trade. Do 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.399 you golf? Uh? Yeah, a little bit? You do? Not good? 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.759 Yeah I'm real bad, but yeah I golf a little 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.600 bit lately. It's mostly so I like I started in 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.399 Jackson County, Tennessee, and everybody there's a golf nine haul 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.960 golf course there, and like me and my buddies would 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.040 would golf barefoot and then like cut off t shirts 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.840 and stuff and bring a cooler bear. Yeah, redneck style golf. 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.799 That's the That was my introduction to golf. As I 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.759 got older and moved to cities, and I found out 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.120 that golf is like a fancy people game and they 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.400 got a bunch of like rules that they really really 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.560 care about. It kind of took a lot of the 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.319 fun out of it for me. I didn't enjoy it 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.200 as much anymore. So now I've got to like top 0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.080 golf or something and just you know, drink some bears 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.360 and hit some or whatever. But yeah, I didn't like being, 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.399 you know, repeatedly shushed or having to tuck a shirt 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.480 ban or whatever. That I've always been surprised at no 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.839 old professional golfer ever emerged who didn't have the same 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:47.719 like what informs the fashion sensibility of professional golfers. Like 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.759 with football, you have no choice because you got to 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.600 wear the uniform. But when you see them off field, 0:36:55.280 --> 0:37:00.319 it's a wide spectrum of dress styles right wide spectrum. Yeah, 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.439 something about something with golf and forces like a very 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:09.000 rigid yeah, sense of how one presents themselves of the public. 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.760 I guess, like I said, it's just fancy people stuff. 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.120 You know, it's just it's just the culture of golfer. 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.480 Maybe it's also because like the stuff they wear to 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:22.120 play it, you can also just wear Yeah, you can 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:27.480 just the course and you can't do that with shoulder pads. 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.000 You know. That's a good point. You look like, yeah. 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:35.360 Uh So someone wrote in with a very spirited defense 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:43.760 of golf courses as ecological refuges. Great point, you can't. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.839 It's better than having condos there. So he's pointing out, 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.880 and I'll tell you what else he's There's this picture. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.680 I guess it's a famous picture. There's a there's a 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:58.640 ecologist standing next to these cut banks and one is 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:08.560 like a crop of one is a annual okay picture 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.880 that you're standing next to a cutaway of a of 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.839 a field where you've got a raw cutaway that's eight 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:18.600 feet tall, like you just slice the earth, pulled it away, 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.799 and you got to look at a help me out. 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:25.000 What am I trying to say? A cutaway a soil 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.480 pit side view. There's a soil pit side view of 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:34.000 perennial grass, and there's a side of the root structure 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:38.120 of perennial grass, and a side view of an annual 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:43.839 grass or an annual crop. And holy cow, the like 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:50.000 a long standing grass, a long standing grassland eight feet 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.920 of room. Amazing, it's so amazing to see this. What 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.120 it like the He has a very spirited defense, And 0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.600 I'll point out, I don't like you know, I get 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.239 what he's saying. Man, they got ponds. He counted up 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.160 how many white oaks around their place. It's a really 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.239 good point. Let's just read the whole damn thing. Should I. 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.960 They're they're gonna move an entire golf course because of 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:19.080 main squirrels. Rules are too mean. There's some main squirrels, 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:28.799 well that's small feet or or it's some yeah, yeah, tire. 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.920 They squirrels like a noise in my backswine, chittering in 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.640 my backswine. Can It's like they attack the golfers to 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:42.400 get their snacks. Right, that's aggressive. Let's read it. For instance, 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.640 I work at a small private club near large city 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.680 with a heavy population of fox squirrels. He points out. 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.400 He points out, I'm quoting him, But I'm okay, He 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.000 points out that, back to the quote, they aren't nearly 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.480 as aggressive maybe as the ones down in Florida, but 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.440 we do manage them every winter. Then he goes on 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:04.120 to say, um, they've managed the squirrels, but their numbers 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.080 continually bounce back with the copious amount of acorns provided 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.440 by the three hundred plus mature white oak trees. The 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.040 property in general has a lot of wildlife for how 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.880 small a property it is and how it's completely surrounded 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:24.120 by urban civilization. We have mink, kyotes, red fox, whitetail, deer, skunks, raccoons, 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:28.120 all sorts of rafters, including bald eagles, waterfowl, and a 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.359 whole mess of other rodents that are all over the place. 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.280 Many golf course has become a part of the Audubon 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.360 Society and our safe havens for many species of birds. 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.400 For that, your pipe smaller, he goes on credit him, 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:51.319 are not like email friends. Yeah, here's why I'm very 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.080 delicate about I can't get you know, the secret of 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.040 why I do really need to tiptoe around the golf 0:40:56.080 --> 0:41:00.760 ish You don't you? I don't think so, Spencer. Well, 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:07.960 it's I'll tell you later. Okay, really, Oh yeah, you 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.200 don't know. I don't think do I know? Oh? You know? 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.520 Wisconsin just the last I we're gonna talk about. I 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.279 told you we had two and you can cut as 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:28.200 I do. No, no no know. Wisconsin is circulating a build 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.200 to designate an official state rifle, the Henry Arms all 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.040 Weather forty five seventy lever action. They point out in 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.960 the build that this does not mean you have to 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:44.480 buy one, though it is strongly encouraged. Yeah, you will 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.319 not get in trouble for not buying one until they are. 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.600 I just love to we gotta have Dug. I want 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:54.200 to hear what Bubbly Doug thinks about his state. If like, 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:55.960 in my view, I get it because they MANU it's 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.799 great because they manufacture him there, um, big Boy all 0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:04.319 Weather rifle. Um, it's so it's a hometown manufacturer in Wisconsin. 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.719 It's a great rifle. But if you said to me, like, 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:11.560 what's the what's the state rifle of Wisconsin? Well, who 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.839 used to make that? That that slide action thirty OT six, 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.560 I think it'd be something like that, like an old 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.359 like yeah, like seven forty two would master? Yeah, like 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.560 one of those like hardcore. You know old deer guns 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.360 everybody had, you know, like a like a something in 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.560 thirty OT six. Right, That's what I was gonna say. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.919 I don't know anybody that hunted or killed a deer 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.480 with the Henry old Weather forty five seventy. But it's 0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:39.239 made the Rice Lake based Henry repeating arms. So they 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.480 make and it's a nod toward the you know, hometown 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.040 gun manufacturers. So if you live in Wisconsin and you 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.200 don't have one, you can expect visit from law enforcement officials. 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.400 Traded you like, learn about all these different old guns 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:54.719 in your riflery class or shoot them now. Now it 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.040 was mostly just like just target practice. Yeah, pretty much 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.000 just was like a twenty two. We didn't like history 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.080 of rifle or anything, although that would have been cool. 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:09.680 I'm horrifically uh underinformed. They join they're joining nine other 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:15.520 states who have state rifles. Oh man, that's a whole 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.479 other thing. Okay, we'll talk about the Kansas Trail campan later. 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.759 I've told you didn't want to have more step and 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:29.040 we'll talk about Burning Man um an hour later. How 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.800 do you do you go to Burning Man? Now? But 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.680 one of my best friends just did this past year. 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.920 It might it sound pretty wild. It gives us license 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.160 to get into this. I want to. I'm interested in 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.399 how you're ranking the remaining topics as to the ones 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:45.000 that will that you're interested in talking because I got 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.400 a lot to say about Wisconsin's public or Kansas's public 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.839 land trail camp. I don't have a lot to say 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:58.839 about and trash. Basically, when you go to Burning Man, 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:04.560 it's a is he defending Burnie Man. I don't think 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.840 it's just kind of how clean they make it exactly. Okay, 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.799 he's explained just how clean it is after Burning Man. 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.080 He was a volunteer there for the Volunteer Fire depart 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.279 He volunteer at the fire department during the Burning Man thing. 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:23.040 They cleaned it so good. The festival has the undergoing 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:27.240 extensive cleaning procedure where they cleaned the entire seven square 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:33.560 miles of m oops moop matter, matter out of place, 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.400 which he said ranges from straw glow sticks to nipple pasties. 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.680 All right, what's a nipple paste picture that you had 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.879 a little sticker you put over your nipple. That's it. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.520 Whole decoration you got it? Yeah, clothing like it's like 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.600 not the same as being fully. You don't want to go, 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.960 you don't want to have any clothes on you exactly. 0:44:55.280 --> 0:45:00.360 It's like one step there's body paint, right, but that 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:05.080 you know, that's a hard Yeah, that's a time investment. 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.120 It doesn't leave a lot to the imagination. Then they 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.719 do this. This is this is where this gets interesting. Here, 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.120 this is what the BLM make. Here's what the BLM 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.719 does to determine just how clean the site is. This 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.520 is where this is. This is where this gets downright 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:22.040 scientific Bureau Land Management. They randomly select one hundred and 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.680 twenty inspection sites, with each site being a circle with 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.600 a radius of thirty seven point seven feet. Got it, 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.880 I'm tracking one hundred and twenty times. You take a 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:42.120 circle about thirty eight feet radius, lay it down, and 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.440 then you have to inspect that circle. But now it 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.759 sounded so scientific until I got to this part. We're 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:56.279 less than a palmful. Then it devolve, It devolves out 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.879 of science, It devolves out of science land and goes 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:05.400 and do less than a palm for less nipple pasties 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.640 can be fined within that circle. If you find more 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:14.920 than a palmful, Yeah, you clean. If you've ever hunted 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:21.000 or hiked, backpack camped in this location outside of burning 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:25.120 man right in and tell us how clean it was. 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.799 I'd like to know. Yeah, no, when I when I 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:30.200 first so, I'm from Tennessee and I went to Bonarou 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.160 when I was in my twenties, you know, big music festival. 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:34.520 I went to like five of those in a row. 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:36.480 And when I first have I found out about burning 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.719 my end. I was like, okay, so, like what kind 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.480 of bands are there or whatever? And I was like, oh, 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.719 well they're not there's no lineup or whatever. And from 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.640 that point on, I was like, I was like, so 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.239 what is the point of it then? And it's like 0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:52.080 an art festival, Like people go there and make like 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.600 art installations, do a bunch of drugs and get wild 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.600 or whatever, and then burn a fffig at the end 0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.239 of it, and that's pretty much the whole thing. But 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:04.000 like those festivals are a marathon. You're filthy, you're tired, 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.799 you know, it's like gross. And if I'm not gonna 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.920 be able to watch like Jay Z and Bruce Springstein, 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.560 you know, and back to back nights, then like I 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.920 got no interest in that, and I wouldn't even do 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.279 the former and in my thirties, you know what I mean. Like, 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.600 but in my twenties I was all for it, but 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.080 I never really got Burning Man and I still don't. 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.000 And now it's a bunch of like tech bros and stuff. 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:25.960 I think on top of that, oh is it? I 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.880 think so they've like overtaken It's what I heard. So 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:30.719 now everybody goes to Burning Man talks about how it's 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.040 not the same as it was absolutely, just like with 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:37.200 everything Nuther's Montana or Baha, yeah, bonarys same way. Um, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:42.000 where'd you grow up exactly? Clay County, Tennessee. It's uh, 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:45.080 you know, Tennessee is divided into East, Middle, and West Tennessee. 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:50.279 It's on the northeast part, like northeast border of Middle Tennessee. 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.440 So it's like halfway between Nashville and Knoxville and forty 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:57.080 miles up on the Kentucky line. What were the what 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.680 were the conditions like when you grew up there? When 0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.759 I was like a little kid, like up until I 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.200 was like nine, it was a pretty idyllic and cozy 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.719 little southern town. I felt like, like a nice little 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.759 town and like just using my so there was this 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.640 big textile factory. Oshkosh, bagosh, my overalls, kiss and stuff 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:19.120 ocos bagosh. They had a huge factory in Salina, and 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.880 that was like the beating heart of the town's e 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.720 common everybody's My great grandma worked there for sixty years 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.360 or whatever. Yeah, that all the kids. Like, if you 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.040 were a kid from Sliea at that time, I pretty 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.120 much guarantee you had like a photo shoot, like a 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:34.839 toddler photo shoot that was all oshkosh bagosh, right, like 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.680 you know, sitting in a little wooden bucket with some 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:43.200 overalls on in a little yeah, right exactly. Why don't 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.800 you guys do the side buttons up? Uh, leaping, flopping? 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.640 It depends, you know, a little bit of both, switch 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.919 it up, and people would do both, yeah exactly. But 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:58.320 and then in my family in particular, like was a 0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.319 bunch of small business owners. Grandpa had a car lot 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.919 in a garage, right, we worked on cars and sold 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.440 them and stuff. And my dad had the town's video store, 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:12.640 Crowder's Video Remember those. Yeah, really dug deep for that 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.480 name because you have the little back corner with a curtain. 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.560 Oh yeah, it wasn't the curtain, it was a room. 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.880 He was a converted single wide trailer in the back 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.440 room I was forbade to enter, and that's where you know, 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.240 all the boxes were a little bit bigger in size, 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.719 and you know, like you know, somebody from the Baptist church, 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.600 you know, couldn't go in there if there was anybody 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.160 else in the store. Like that was the thing that 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.160 would happen a lot, like people that that back room 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.319 kept the lights on in that grocery. And then that 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.880 video store you get a double wide. There was a 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:46.360 video store. Yeah, yeah, and uh Crowder's Video, Crowder's Video, 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:51.200 and that market just dried up. Yeah, as you'll see 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.480 in a minute. As you'll see in a minute, every 0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.560 by town we didn't even get to that point. But anyway, Uh, 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:02.600 on the town square, my maternal grandmother had a little 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.960 country diner called Cat's Cafe, And across the square, my 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.600 openly gay uncle and his partner had a Delhi called 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:13.000 the New Day Delhi, a sandwich place or whatever. And Uh, 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.440 all these businesses are doing, and the whole town or 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.200 the whole downtown's populated by these little businesses and stuff, 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:24.319 and everything's cool. Then in the mid nineties, as I 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.839 like to put it, the factory left forever and the 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.719 pills showed up for good at the same time, the 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.680 factory being oshkosh, they left. They went to Mexico, like 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.880 literally that that, you know, they moved to that operation 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.480 to Mexico, just packed it up and moved it. Yeah, 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.520 and that was that, Like some of the was that 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.960 some of the NAFTA. Absolutely, And that's got a huge 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.960 it's a huge part of people. There's politics, you know, 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.520 actually that town is rural and every and like redneck 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.759 or whatever it was. You can look it up. For 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.120 a very long time, that county was like a blue 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.960 county in Tennessee because it was like old school didn't 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.520 work in Man Democrats or whatever that type of thing. 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:06.360 But then NAFTA, the Clinton's factory leaves, town gets demolished 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.759 and it changes a lot, but nothing ever came into 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.520 a place that factory. Really. You know, by the time 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.400 I graduated high school, all my family's businesses are closed. 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.359 You know, my mom is as addicted to pills herself. 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:24.160 You know, people are sick. Everything just falls apart, and like, 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.800 feel I want to back up to that that place leaving, 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:32.120 Like how was that perceived by people? Did it feel 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.120 like a betrayal? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean I remember. 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.200 I mean, you know, again, I was like nine or ten, 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.680 but I can remember my parents, my grandparents like talking 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.880 about it and stuff. I mean I can. I have 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:46.279 a vivid memory of my grandpa that owned the car 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.520 lot coming into my dad's video store and slamming like 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.480 a newspaper or something down on the counter and saying, 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:54.960 I swear to God, I'll never vote for another Democrat 0:51:54.960 --> 0:52:00.000 as long as I live because of that. And like, yeah, 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.080 I mean it was like a company town, you know 0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.120 what I mean, Like I said, everybody worked there and 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:06.759 or like had somebody in their family that worked there. 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.239 And like all the other businesses, like you know, people 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.799 that work they are bought lunch at these restaurants or 0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:16.000 whatever that type of thing. It all, it all orbited 0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.200 around that plant. And yeah, I mean people knew. I 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.240 mean even as a kid, like I knew, like everybody 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:26.360 knew this is really bad what's about to happen. And 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.000 there was some optimism like well we can replace it 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.520 with something or whatever. But I mean that you know, 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.719 that's twenty five years ago, going on thirty years ago, 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.280 and that you know, there's like a couple minor operations 0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.200 have come in and left and whatever else, but nothing 0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.759 has really ever replaced it. So it's been there's been 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.520 like double digit level. I mean, I don't know right now, 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.319 but I know for over a decade there was double 0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:50.120 digit levels of unemployment. It was like, you know, one 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:53.360 of the poorest counties in Tennessee for like years and 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.960 years straight because of them that killed the video store. 0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.719 Yeah exactly. So I said, like, right, obviously the video 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.960 store wouldn't have made it a long term anyway, but 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.200 we didn't know that. You know, we didn't see the 0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.440 future coming. But it didn't matter because that killed the 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:12.719 video store. My uncle's Delhi, the my grandma's cafe is 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.680 like that's still a restaurant on the square, but like 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.040 it got rough and she was old and so that 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.600 drove her out of it, and so you know, pretty 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:25.319 much just ended everything. Yeah, it was pretty rough. So 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.360 I understand why those people like in that place. I 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:34.360 get why, you know, they don't trust politicians, Democrats in particular, 0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.200 I mean, I get it. And I also get why 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.920 that county went so heavily for Trump in twenty sixteens, 0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.560 because you know, he was telling them, he was speaking 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.400 directly to that type of stuff and nobody else does 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:48.879 because nobody cares about those people. And like Republicans Democrats both, 0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.160 no one cares about those people poor like rural people 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.279 like they just don't. I mean I do because that's 0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:58.160 where I'm from, but like you know, and so to 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.120 have anybody even paying them any attention at all, I 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:04.640 think was like attractive, you know, ye in a desperation way. 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.280 Part of the reason I think we're talking about this earlier, 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.279 when we're talking about getting you on Yani, you found 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.759 your stuff and turned me onto it, and uh we 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.440 had we had a laugh watching it. And what initiated 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.440 that was. It's not I'm not the first person to 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:21.359 make this observation by any stretch, but it was like 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:27.960 we're talking about, uh, the last thing that will be 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.480 left that the whole country agrees. It's totally fine to 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:37.040 ridicule and insult, Yeah, is poor white Southerners. I think 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.359 you can always be No one will ever be like, well, 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.480 don't you do that. I was making like jokes about 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.520 that in stand up when I started thirteen years ago, 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:52.960 and it's still because even then, uh, it was already starting, 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.400 and I would I mean, I mean, who else is 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.759 there right now? Do you know what I mean? Like 0:54:57.840 --> 0:54:59.120 you said, like you said, oh, we'll get to that 0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:02.680 point eventually, but I mean, who else is? Yeah? Right? 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.400 Pretty right? Like you can't name another group of people 0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.120 that it's okay to make fun of. No, But also, 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.080 like I'm as a comedian, I'm kind of totally okay 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.000 with that. As long as people will allow me, as 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.120 a you know, formally poor white Southerner to also make 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.399 fun of other types of white people, then I'm good 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:20.719 with that trade off. Do you know what I mean? 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:26.640 Any kind of any kind of white person should be 0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.879 fair game, I think for me, because you know we're 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:31.759 gonna catch it too. I used to like, and I 0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:33.200 don't know what the real answer is, but I used 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.719 to jokingly say that I thought that was because all 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.279 these other groups of people, gradually over the years each 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:40.360 stood up and we're like, that's not okay, you shouldn't 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.719 talk about us like that, right. But Rednecks were never 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:44.960 gonna do that because that would imply that they, you know, 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.080 give a damn what somebody else thinks. It would put 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.359 Marry the Cable Guy and Jeff Fox were the out 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.959 of business. It's just like you know, like the world 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.000 tells them's like, hey, they're talking shit about you. Who 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.520 is everybody? I'll tell everybody to kiss my ass and 0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:01.520 then that's the end of it, you know. Like, but 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:05.239 I find it the southerns have a huge ship on 0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:08.840 their shoulder about pretty much the whole rest of the country, 0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:11.120 like looking down on him earlier. Think y'all were talking 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.719 earlier off mix about somebody else you work with, who Clay. Yeah, 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.760 there's like the South and then there's like devil Country Clay. 0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.600 I've been dogging on our colleague Clay a lot because 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.440 he was recently he was pitching this idea that he 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.520 wanted to do, and he had an email where he 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:29.720 pointed out that he pointed out that in Southern culture, 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.080 you know, music is very important. Yeah, And I said, 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.880 have you been to a lot of areas in America 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.000 where you found music to be unimportant? Right? Have you 0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:41.200 found it to be unimportant in the North? And then 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:45.239 I sent Then I started looking up musicians per capita, 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.959 and um I pointed out to him that the most 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:52.400 musicians per capita and Beverly Hills, Right, So I think 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.920 it'd be fair to say that in global culture, music 0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.920 is very important. Well, yeah, and yeah he sees he 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.600 sees like he'd be like, I mean, I'm storytelling is 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.319 very important in the South. Well, look, I mean a 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.000 lot of Listen, Clay's not even here, but I'm about 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.640 to go to bat for him. I think a lot 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:12.879 of them. I think a lot of the like of 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:16.320 American music, like you know, has its roots originally in 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.280 the South, and a lot of That's my buddy pointed 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:20.160 out when I was dogging on Clay about this. He 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:21.920 pointed out that like if you sort of do a 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:26.080 music family tree, right, you wind up like like Southern 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:27.919 blues winds up being like the trunk of the tree, 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.200 is what he's getting. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.840 I don't know if maybe Clean knows at We'll have 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:34.440 to get mine talked to him about this. But now 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:39.080 they are, Yeah, they're musical paper like the most rednecked 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.120 part of my county it's called pe Ridge, right, And 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:43.920 it's also the part where like what they're known for 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:49.360 is like they all can just sing like angels, like 0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:54.360 you know, yeah, everybody out there something in the water 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.720 just yeah, like it's like, oh they're red as hell, 0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:03.000 but got pipes. Did you guys mess around outside a 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.480 lot with your kids. Yeah, I'm kind of doing a 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.880 bit about that right now. Like I I've got I've 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.320 got two sons or ten eleven, And I think about 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.280 when I was at age, like I would me and 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.880 my little sisters three years younger than me, Like we'd 0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.880 leave in the morning and just you know, be gone. 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:21.080 I mean literally all day, you know what I mean, 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.640 and like obviously no cell phones, I'll checking in or something, 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.880 just out like you know, playing in the creek, trying 0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.040 to catch crawl daddies or whatever, you know, climbing into 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.000 old storm drains, just kids stuff, you know, but like 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.080 climbing up the pile the piles of scrap material behind 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:40.280 the abandoned factory, you know, fun stuff like that. But 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.480 uh but yeah, I men't. But today I'm you know, 0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:46.360 I'm not like I went, and I live in California, 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.640 live in Burbank, California, you know, which is very suburban, 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:50.480 but it's still a city. But I'm just not, like, 0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.520 you know, I'm mortified at the prospect of that. Like 0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:56.480 unless I had some way to like track them or whatever, 0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:58.360 I don't want them out there just running around all day. 0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:01.080 But that's what we did. Yeah, we would, I mean yeah, 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.320 all day long in the summertime and stuff would be 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:08.040 just playing outside. And then uh, when I got older, 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.040 like in high school and everything. I was never a 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.120 big hunter but me and my buddy. The only thing 0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:16.600 of note in Clay County, Tennessee is a man made 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:19.640 lake called Dale Hollow Lake, which for a long time 0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:23.200 not anymore. Unfortunately that that also left with the factory. 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.080 We were the we were the home of the world 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.480 record smallmouth bass. They did the world even took the 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.960 bass away from us. Yeah, the bass record world record. Yeah, 0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.200 that was on the sign coming welcome to Slige at 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:37.400 home of the world record smallmouth bass. But like part 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.160 of the local lore was always, and I don't know 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.280 the truth of it, but part of the local lore 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:43.480 was always there's always these rumors and stuff that the 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:46.320 dude that it that it had been weighted down with 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:50.240 like nuts and bolts and stuff, and that yeah, that 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.640 would never happened. Yeah, And so it was always like 0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:55.320 a yeah, it's like the town was divided amongst you know, 0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.280 whether it was legit or not. But anyway, so like 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:05.200 summertime at the every day exactly, Yeah, stolen bass violer, 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:11.040 but like, uh, now, I don't know off the top 1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:15.080 of my head. Hey, everyone fill here with a quick note. 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:18.160 Immediately after the show, Trade had some research and found 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:21.920 out that Selena and Dale hollow Lake still hold the 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:26.200 record for the smallmouth bass. According to him, he quote 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.600 assumed the universe had taken that from us as well. 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:33.480 My bad, Thanks Trey, and back to the show. Can 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:35.800 I tell you a quick story? Yeah? Please? It has 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.480 to do with the South kind of um. There's a 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:41.400 song by Hank Williams Junior and Whale and Jennings called 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:47.840 The Conversation, and in it they discuss Hank Williams Junior's mother, Aubrey, 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:53.200 and first off trying to get Hanklingas Junior to come 1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:55.160 on the podcast. So if you're out there listening, my man, 1:00:55.360 --> 1:01:01.960 please uh. Anyways, like Hank Williams and Hank Williams Junior's mom, 1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.439 Aubrey got a divorce or not, and then he got 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.200 remarried right before he died. This all happened really fast. 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:15.360 He died young and unexpectedly. Once he died. Once he died, 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.960 there became a legal battle over who was able to 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:26.120 call themselves Hank Williams's widow because he hadn't done the 1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:31.919 legal separation prior to getting remarried, and then he died 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:36.200 or after he get remarried. So in the end it 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:43.320 was settled that Aubrey, Hank Williams Junior's mother became officially 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:48.400 Hank William's widow, and in a settlement, this other woman 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:53.840 had to stop saying that, and Okay, Aubrey was the 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:56.360 first one or their Sorry, his first wife was Aubrey 1:01:56.520 --> 1:02:00.360 who he had been separated from but didn't get supposed 1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:03.440 to do like sixty days. I mean, I think he's 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.800 supposed to be separated sixty days before he'd be legally divorced. Well, 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:08.600 it turns out he had only done fifty days of 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.840 separation or something like that and then got married. Yeah. 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:16.120 Then he dies and so they're like, you're that marriage. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:21.919 That's not actually his widow because he didn't legally get divorced. Yeah, 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:24.680 so I get to be the widow. I'm pretty sure 1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:27.800 that my mama is still technically married to my step 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.280 dad despite the fact that they haven't been together in 1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:32.560 twenty something years. They haven't done it. They just didn't 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:34.400 do it. They never did it, never got around to that. 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:37.320 You know, what's a whole thing you still keep you 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:39.480 still keep in touch with your parents. Well, my dad 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:43.440 passed away ten years ago pancreatic cancer. But he was 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:46.000 I mentioned earlier my mom getting you know, addicted to 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:47.880 drugs and stuff when I was younger. So my dad 1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:50.640 most mostly raised us. And my dad was great, super 1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:52.880 close to my dad, but he was not really an outdoorsman. 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:56.240 He was more into like rock and roll and movies, 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.360 Dave and Lynch movies and stuff like that, you know, 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:02.000 but I do still his video store would be in 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:06.400 a David Lynch movie, right. Yeah, he would have been 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:08.760 so flattered to hear you say that. They're so thrilled 1:03:08.760 --> 1:03:10.720 to hear that someone interpreted it that way. He would 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:14.600 love that. But but yeah, but my mom, you know, 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:17.840 she's still kicking and we're like, you know, we're reconciled 1:03:17.920 --> 1:03:21.200 or whatever. Now I wouldn't say we're super close, but 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:23.520 we you know, I do keep in touch. I say, 1:03:23.520 --> 1:03:25.080 here at the holidays and stuff like that. Do you 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:29.200 understand what you do mean? Like it? She does. She 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:31.200 loves it. She loves like the attention and stuff like 1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:33.440 and actually she I gotta give her credit, like she 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:35.920 is cool about all that. Like I had one of 1:03:35.960 --> 1:03:39.000 my early jokes that I had was like talking about 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:40.840 where I'm from and how redneck it is or whatever, 1:03:41.240 --> 1:03:43.200 and I, you know, and I'd be like, yeah, you know, 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.960 I love football and I hate shirt sleeves and whatever. Yeah, 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:47.280 I don't all this ship. And at the end, I'd 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:51.600 be like, and my mama, y'all, my mama cooks the 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:54.280 best crystal meth you ever had in your life, right, 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:58.760 And like, uh, she heard me do that, and she 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:02.400 sent me a text message. It was like, she's like, honey, 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:07.000 I did not cook math right space, I sold pills. 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:10.400 It's different, it's not the same thing. I was like, 1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:12.800 I know, Mama, but I can't you you know, it 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:16.600 doesn't work with cooked Joe, Like you gotta talk about 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:20.120 your home cooking. I can't use pills, you know, taking 1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:23.480 some artistic license. Give me a break. But she's she's 1:04:23.520 --> 1:04:34.920 pretty cool about it all. So what was it that 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.400 when you when you left, was it like in the movies, 1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:42.000 you know, like you um, you know, left with your 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:44.320 thumb out and got on a hitch hiked out of 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:46.960 town and never turned back. Not quite, but kind of. 1:04:47.000 --> 1:04:49.560 And also the other thing was I was always like 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:52.800 the smart kid in my class, which is like, you know, 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:56.080 bars not all that high. It's like's not crazy impressive 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:58.920 being the smart kid in this particular school. But I 1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:01.360 didn't know that I had no for of reference. So 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:04.200 like by the time I graduated high school or whatever, 1:05:04.280 --> 1:05:08.680 like I literally thought I was like redneck Goodwill Hunting, 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:12.000 you know, like literally because you know, he had a 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:14.280 rough childhood. He's a super genius and the end of 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:16.760 that movie's him just hitting the road never to return, right. 1:05:16.880 --> 1:05:19.560 I was like I thought to do with it? Yeah, 1:05:19.600 --> 1:05:22.440 I thought I was Matt Damon in that movie. And 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:24.200 a lot of my twenties was having to reconciled with 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:28.640 the fact that I am not, you know, that brilliant 1:05:28.760 --> 1:05:31.520 the way that I thought I was, you know, but 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:33.360 but yeah, it was kind of like that. And my 1:05:33.440 --> 1:05:36.080 dad also it was very much like that's part of 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:39.040 like an another thing I've always regretted. I mentioned my 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:41.600 grandpa had a car lot he before I was born, 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:45.240 like before my time. He built and raced stock cars 1:05:45.280 --> 1:05:47.720 on like the dirt track circuit in the South. He 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:50.160 had his whole basement was full of trophies and pictures 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:52.880 all his like stock car pass and stuff, and he 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:56.200 was like a gear head, you know, Like my dad 1:05:56.200 --> 1:05:57.960 was real into music. But I never I noticed my 1:05:58.000 --> 1:05:59.680 grandpa never listened to music. And I was sitting with 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:02.200 one and this like seventy nine Chevy pickup he had, 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:05.680 right and We're sitting there and I'm probably twelve, and 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:07.960 I was like, hey, Pap, why don't why don't you 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:10.200 ever listen to any music? And he just looks at 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.640 me and just revs the engine up real alb bro 1:06:14.000 --> 1:06:16.000 and he goes, that's the only music of man needs 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:20.640 son and uh so like but anyway, but he had 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:23.800 the His outlook on me was like, you're gonna go 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:26.080 to college. You know, You're like you're the you're gonna 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:27.520 the first one of the family go to You're gonna 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:29.080 go to college and get You're gonna you're gonna be 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:30.640 a doctor or a lawyer. You're gonna work at some 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:32.440 kind of office. You're not gonna be covered in grease 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:34.400 every day. Like you're not gonna you know what I mean. 1:06:34.480 --> 1:06:38.040 Like he wanted that kind of future for me, but 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.200 I wish I'd to take him more of an initiative 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:44.480 to like, you know, learn that kind of thing from him, 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:46.840 but he never offered and I never asked learned how 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:49.920 to wrench on cars all that stuff. Yeah, and I mean, 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:54.840 you know, I'll like, um, like I'll do little stuff 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:59.200 like the tires or breakpads whatever I put alternators, and 1:06:59.240 --> 1:07:02.080 it's always just like YouTube and a manual. You know, 1:07:02.320 --> 1:07:04.200 you can't figure it out. It's not that bad. But 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:06.360 like he just knew. He was just one of those 1:07:06.360 --> 1:07:09.600 guys you know, knew everything about engines and stuff. It 1:07:09.640 --> 1:07:12.280 probably would have changed, I guess, because you know, as cars, 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:14.640 like modern day cars with the computers and all that 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:17.000 stuff in him, that probably would have confounded him a 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.640 little bit. But like the old school rides, who you 1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:25.360 know topped to bottom. I can't remember why even brought 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:27.640 that up. I don't know. We're talking about your family 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:29.840 and growing up. I know where he's coming from, man, 1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:35.080 because um, thinking back to when you could climb in 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:39.400 I remember like working on working on pickups when you're 1:07:39.400 --> 1:07:42.120 in high school, you would open the hood and sit 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:45.320 on the front wheel. Well you'd be like sitting side 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:48.560 there right, yeah, and everything's just laid out like, well, 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:52.120 there's the starter, there's this, there's that. You know, it's 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:55.560 just so simple and now, dude, it's like intimidating man 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:58.800 wrenched on any kind of thing. Dude, when you left, 1:07:58.800 --> 1:08:00.880 you went to college obviously. Oh right, yeah, well so 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:02.840 that's the thing again. Act like I'm good Will hunting 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:04.640 and he was going across the country. I went forty 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:08.480 miles up the road to Cookville, Tennessee, which is also 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:10.880 a small town, but to me, it was like the 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.720 major metropolitan area of Cookville, Tennessee, you know what I mean. 1:08:13.800 --> 1:08:16.320 Like Cookville was the town where if you're from Salina, 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.920 that's where you go to get like school closed, if 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:20.200 you're going to go to the movies, or if it's 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:22.360 somebody's birthday, so you go to Red Lobster for a 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:25.519 fancy dinner, you know. Like that's what Cookville was. And 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:28.720 I also have a cow college there, Tennessee Tech University, 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:30.880 which is where I ended up going. And I mean 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:32.720 I loved it at a great time. But yeah, I 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:37.280 didn't go all that far away. But I already knew 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:40.479 that I wanted to do comedy, did yeah, Because well, 1:08:40.520 --> 1:08:42.080 like I said, so, I grew up in my dad's 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:45.719 video store, so like I always wanted to do something 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:48.080 in show business like movies or whatever. And then when 1:08:48.120 --> 1:08:49.920 I was twelve, and I told this story a lot, 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:51.879 but it's how I remember it. When I was twelve, 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:56.960 me and my dad together watched Chris Rock, Bigger and 1:08:57.040 --> 1:09:00.240 Blacker when it aired on HBO, like we watched it live, 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:02.519 and that's the Chris Rock special where he does this 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:05.599 whole bit about dads how nobody appreciates dads. It's always mama, 1:09:05.680 --> 1:09:08.400 this MoMA that daddy don't get no credit. All daddy 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:11.360 gets is the big piece of chicken, right that bit. 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:13.800 And my dad's just like losing his mind watching is 1:09:13.880 --> 1:09:17.360 and he's just dying. And that was the first time 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:19.760 that I was like that in particular. Seems like it 1:09:19.760 --> 1:09:22.360 would be cool, right, but again, I'm a kid. I'm 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:25.439 in the middle of nowhere whatever. I started keeping notes 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:28.200 like for possible, like stand up bits and stuff like that. 1:09:28.560 --> 1:09:29.840 And I wanted to go to college. I wanted to 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:31.160 get a Greek because I would have been the first 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:32.479 of my family to do it. I wanted to do 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:34.800 that either way. But I then knew I was going 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:37.920 to start comedy wherever I ended up after college. So 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:41.720 because I knew that in college, I got an MBA, 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:44.640 not because I have any interest in business, but just 1:09:44.680 --> 1:09:46.360 because I thought it would give me the best shot 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:49.000 at getting some kind of job where I could like 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:51.160 pay the bills and not have to do any that 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:53.720 starving artist bullshit, Like I had no interest in that 1:09:53.760 --> 1:09:55.200 type of thing, you know what I mean. I'd been 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:58.280 pouring weighted tables enough, like get a good job while 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.720 I was moonlighting as a comic, and so that's why 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:02.360 I got it. And then that's exactly what happened. I 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:04.840 got a job working for the US Department of Energy 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:08.320 in Oakridge, Tennessee. Moved there, started stand up in Knoxville 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:10.360 doing what for the Department of Energy. I was a 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:14.320 contracting officer, so like uh, contract specialist eventually and then 1:10:14.320 --> 1:10:18.720 a contracting officer. So like the federal government doesn't they 1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.479 don't really do much of anything themselves. Anything they do 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:26.800 they contract out to like private, private industry. Statement. Well no, 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.400 I mean they just you know, they they have contractors 1:10:29.400 --> 1:10:32.880 for everything, you know, like a federal employee. It's rare 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:36.720 that they'll you know, do any of the like you know, 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:39.040 brunt of the work or whatever. There's a contractor or 1:10:39.080 --> 1:10:43.000 a subcontractor or whatever. Well, so I I had like 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:45.559 a warrant they call it, and I was like I 1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:49.880 awarded and administered those contracts on behalf of the government, right, So, 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:53.400 like I worked with the contractors and you know, made 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:55.280 sure they were following the rules, made sure they were 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:56.880 doing what they're supposed to do, you know, and then 1:10:56.920 --> 1:10:59.400 they got paid and all that type of stuff. Competition 1:10:59.439 --> 1:11:01.600 was a big part of doing a request for proposals, 1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.519 and companies submit proposals and you have to put a 1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:06.439 board together and pick the company you're gonna Some of 1:11:06.479 --> 1:11:09.360 these contracts are you know huge, Ye, I'd make a 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:11.920 lot of money on kickbacks. No, I never got to 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:14.920 that point. It would have been pretty sweet though, because yeah, 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:17.040 you know that was going on. We'd have ethics classes 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:19.160 and stuff where they'd tell us, you know, stories of 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:22.679 people who have been caught, you know, like don't do that. 1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:24.800 But I'm sure people were still doing it. But I 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:28.080 mean there was other little stuff like somebody's son in 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:31.880 law company would get a maintenance contract, you know what 1:11:31.880 --> 1:11:33.360 I mean. There was still some like good old boy 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:35.720 type stuff that would go on there. But like, but 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:40.640 the big dollar contracts, they were like heavily scrutinized, and 1:11:40.680 --> 1:11:43.240 had to be you know, competed in all that stuff. 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:45.400 So but it was just a I had a top 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:48.800 secret security clearance and all that. But like one of 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:54.280 my contracts was the uranium processing facility, so like the 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:56.680 nuclear weapon were they enrich the uranium you know that 1:11:56.720 --> 1:12:00.680 goes in our nuclear weapons? Uh? And so I I 1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:03.240 would go to all these meetings that were like top 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:07.120 secret and heavily like heavy security phones outside all this stuff, 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:09.880 like very very high level of security. But it's my 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:12.960 ran trying to listen to the water. But like I could, 1:12:13.040 --> 1:12:15.400 like you could have waterboarded me all damn day and 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:16.840 I wouldn't been able to tell you any of it 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:18.840 because it because like it just feel like no, I 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:21.519 really like I really don't know because it's all like 1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:24.760 it's all science and shit. You know, it's like it 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:27.920 it goes over your head. So if you're like me anyway, 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:30.479 So I was in those meetings and stuff, but I, 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:33.640 you know, I didn't understand them. They were highly technical 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:36.800 in nature, and sometimes people would think that it's a 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:39.880 you know, like it sounds like a kind of cool job, 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:42.920 but it was just an office job really, you know, 1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:45.360 it's kind of office spacey in a lot of ways. 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:49.439 When you knew that you wanted to do comedy when 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:54.240 you were young, did you how did you perceive what 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:58.519 it was you were growing up around I d're saying, 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:00.960 I'm getting at I mean maybe, do you mean like 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:08.479 meaning that until you I didn't fully understand where I 1:13:08.479 --> 1:13:10.719 grew up until I went somewhere else. Yeah, for sure. 1:13:10.920 --> 1:13:14.120 Like I didn't know about UM until I was in 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:17.280 graduate school. I didn't know I'd never met Ivy League kids, 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:20.800 yeah right, I didn't know about any coffee besides gas 1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:24.080 station coffee. Yeah yeah, right, like all that shit, and 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:28.240 then you go like, oh, oh, I know, yeah that 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.720 was weird. I got a few growing up I've had. 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:34.120 I've had stand up bits based on that premise too, 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:36.240 because I went through a very similar thing. I knew. 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:40.360 I mentioned Dalhalla Lake in the summertime, tourists from like 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:43.320 Big Ten country, like Ohio and Michigan, you know, your 1:13:43.360 --> 1:13:46.120 neck of the woods that I just called it that 1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:48.519 it's just like a reference point. I don't know, so yeah, right, 1:13:49.000 --> 1:13:51.599 they have really good sports teams at the college, but uh, 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:55.439 people from up there, like the Midwest, the north northern 1:13:55.439 --> 1:13:57.599 Midwest that would like to us that was just the North, 1:13:57.680 --> 1:14:01.880 like you know Yankees. Yankees would come down Animal's Country. Yeah, 1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:04.120 Devil's Country, right, but of course, you know that's the thing. 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:06.200 Devil's Country is just you got the South and then 1:14:06.200 --> 1:14:08.880 there's Devil's Country because California is like the devilist of 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:11.639 Devil's Country and it's not in the North. But they're 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:15.360 like honorary Yankees in California. But anyway, uh, anyway, they 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:17.920 would come down there and like go out on a 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:20.160 houseboats stuff. They'd come to the lake in the summertime 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:23.680 and it's like a huge reservoir. Oh yeah, it's a 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.240 it's a big lake. It's also I was always told 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:27.760 that it was one of the cleanest lakes in the 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:29.760 country and all this stuff, and it's uh, I mean, 1:14:29.880 --> 1:14:37.000 I think Delhalla Lake is awesome, like unimpeachable, uh to me. Yeah, 1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:38.880 And uh so people come out there going on a 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:42.920 houseboats and stuff like that. Um so because of that, 1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:44.559 we were I think it's like in any place where 1:14:44.560 --> 1:14:48.000 they're a tourist, the locals were very aware. Like we 1:14:48.080 --> 1:14:50.400 all thought that the tourists, you know, thought we were 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:53.400 all idiots, right, like the local yokels. You know what 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:55.640 I mean like they like we were the like we 1:14:55.760 --> 1:14:58.000 thought they thought they were better than everybody else or 1:14:58.000 --> 1:15:00.479 whatever else. And what's funny is in retrospect, these are 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:03.400 like very middle class Midwestern people. These are like, you know, 1:15:03.439 --> 1:15:07.040 this guy's like probably an electrician or something, an electrician 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:09.719 from Iowa, and we're like, look at this fancy playing 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:16.720 a sum a bit. They couldn't afford the driving exactly, yeah, 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:18.920 but we didn't know. You feel like you're like you're 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:22.560 like townies at Martha's Vineyard or something, right, yeah exactly, 1:15:22.600 --> 1:15:25.800 but like, uh, there's just a And also it's just 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:27.960 a universal thing in the South. I don't whether you're 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:30.160 in a like toown or not. Like you're just aware 1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:35.040 that everybody else thinks you're dumb, Like that's the thing 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:36.800 you think, like the accent makes you dumb and all 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:38.200 this stuff. And again I was a smart kid in 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:41.280 my class. I thought I was like smart on a 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:45.840 global scale. So like I took that very personally, like 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:48.080 they used to really piss me off, right, I was like, 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:50.200 you know, no that you know, I'm I'm as smart 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.080 as anything. Sons of bitches, you know that don't matter 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:54.360 how I talk, you know, how do you become aware 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:56.479 of it though, like at the age of twelve, Like, 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:58.960 what has taught you that the rest of the world 1:15:58.960 --> 1:16:02.160 thinks that you're not as smart as they are? Like 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:05.599 are your parents just telling you this? Yeah, people just 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:07.559 talk about it and again but again especially that's why 1:16:07.600 --> 1:16:09.960 I brought up the tourists, just because that just that 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:13.519 was just a general like consensus or the way it was. 1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:15.240 You know what I mean is that like the tourists 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:17.960 or up at the assholes. You know, I think we're 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:20.440 all dumb. And it's like you just know that from 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:24.240 a very early age, right, but um, but anyway, so 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:26.320 I was aware of that, right, But there was a 1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:28.720 whole lot of stuff. So I knew the South was 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:30.920 like that. I didn't know that my town was different 1:16:30.920 --> 1:16:33.040 from other places in the South, like other cities or 1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:37.120 other places that are not economically devastated or whatnot. Like 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:40.080 I didn't you were the bottom, Yes, And I didn't 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:42.120 know that. And so like I get and I used 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.439 to this bit like when I was in college or again, 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.439 I started dating this girl who I considered to be 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:50.080 a rich girl, but literally her dad owned an auto 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:53.920 body shop outside of Nashville. Right, But like I was 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:55.760 in the bathroom getting ready for a first date, like 1:16:55.800 --> 1:16:58.240 here's you want chance, fancy? Don't let me damn, you know, 1:16:58.320 --> 1:17:02.439 like I thought, this is my ticket, you know. And 1:17:02.720 --> 1:17:06.720 uh like when I went to her house for for 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:08.640 Christmas or whatever, you know, I'm in the kitchen like, 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:13.920 why's all y'all's plates the same? You know, that's weird, 1:17:14.680 --> 1:17:17.640 you know, had glass tupperware. I was like, as I 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:21.439 live and breathe, you know, like, uh, blew my mind. 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:23.680 I was like, and I had a few moments like that. 1:17:23.720 --> 1:17:26.280 I was like, oh my god, I'm white trash, you know. 1:17:27.680 --> 1:17:30.559 But because I didn't know that until later. I remember 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:33.080 being with a bunch of college friends. They're all kind 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:35.400 of you know, middle class would again rich to me. 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:38.280 We're riding around going to somebody's house to pick them up, 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.679 and they're from Cookeville, and it's like a nice neighborhood 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:45.480 with like you know, like big suburban homes, nothing crazy, 1:17:45.600 --> 1:17:48.240 not like full on McMansions, but like, you know, nice 1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:52.519 houses in like a subdivision, right, well kept yards, yeah right. 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:55.080 And we're going through there and I'm telling my friends, 1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:58.120 I'm like, dude, this is insane. I was like everyone 1:17:58.160 --> 1:18:01.160 I was like, there's not a house this nice and 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:03.519 all of Clay County and this neighborhood's full of them 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:05.519 or whatever. And one of the dudes was like, are 1:18:05.520 --> 1:18:07.280 you serious about that? And I was like yeah, man, 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:08.800 I was like, there might be one or two up 1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:10.639 on the lake, but that's it. And he was like, dude, 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:14.519 that's poverty. And I was like, oh, shitty's right, that 1:18:14.640 --> 1:18:16.960 is poverty, you know. So yeah, I had a lot 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:20.120 of those, a lot of those realizations we had, Like 1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:24.559 it's so funny, it's without the whole Southern North thing. 1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:27.240 There's like a strikingly similar thing that happened where I 1:18:27.240 --> 1:18:31.679 grew up, where there's some people that around our lake. 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:34.960 We had like the Chicago people. There's a couple of 1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:37.240 places where they bought cottages around the lake I grew 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:39.400 up on, and they'd come from four hours away from Chicago, 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:44.639 and they were into the same stuff, right, They're into whatever, 1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:46.920 playing in the water. They're inefficient, but their ship was 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:50.960 so much nicer. Right, But again they were working class people, 1:18:51.200 --> 1:18:53.400 but they had like glass tron boats. They had like 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:56.559 dedicated ski boats with stereo systems. Yeah, so when they 1:18:56.560 --> 1:18:58.960 would stop to like circle around and pick up a 1:18:58.960 --> 1:19:01.559 skier here that they were playing music, which would just 1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:04.679 blow your mind. How you play music out of a boat, right, 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:06.760 And so they did the same stuff that just did 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:09.120 it was nice. And if they went fishing, they had 1:19:09.160 --> 1:19:12.599 like a fishing boat, you know, so they were into 1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:14.400 the same junk. But it's just their stuff was nice. 1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:16.720 And you became aware of that was a sort of 1:19:16.720 --> 1:19:19.880 first inkling that there's another way to go about ship. Yeah, 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:21.880 you could be like the Chicago people down the beach 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:25.880 everyone disliked. Yeah, even though they liked to do exactly 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:29.000 the same stuff, right, it's just they did it with 1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:35.320 nice stuff, and that annoyed everybody. Yeah. Yeah, you know 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:37.479 you complaining about you wouldn't complain about it being nice. 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:40.960 You can play about being loud, right, loud music, yeah, 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:44.200 loud boats, I mean, yeah, a nice boat. Yeah. My 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:47.439 buddy's dad and one friend whose dad was like the 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:50.240 highway commissioner. So that's like a good job. That's nothing 1:19:50.240 --> 1:19:53.920 like in my town. Like as far as like the 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:55.760 kids at school go, like you were, your family was 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:58.280 considered to have money, Like if your family had money, 1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:01.200 and so I know that basically meant like your parents 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:04.320 were still married and both had a job, right, and 1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:09.200 that like as being as having money by Salina standards. Right. 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.640 So my one buddy is that was a highway commissioner, 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.360 was like a legitimately good job. And so he had 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:17.280 a big bass boat, right, But that bass boat was 1:20:17.320 --> 1:20:19.719 our like you know, tube and boat, ski and boat 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:21.719 whatever else. Like it's just it was just the boat 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:23.920 used to boat for all the boat stuff, right. It 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:27.519 didn't have an assortment of boats or specialized boats like 1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:30.040 we were just lucky to have just that one boat. 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:34.120 When you started doing the well, what was the first 1:20:34.120 --> 1:20:35.840 comedy you did? Like, what was the first sort of 1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:40.200 audience material? So? Um, Like I said, I how do 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:41.760 you say when you start comedy? Don't know when you 1:20:41.760 --> 1:20:44.840 start writing. I guess he's right. When when you start 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:46.479 being a writer, I guess in my mind, you start 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:50.200 getting paid for your work. Okay, I didn't start. I 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:52.400 mean you get paid gas money or whatever it bar 1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:55.200 shows and stuff. Early on the first time that ever happened, 1:20:55.640 --> 1:20:58.920 I was probably now, I started him saying, I mean 1:20:58.960 --> 1:21:01.639 about eighteen months sin to doing it, I'd get paid 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:03.919 a little bit. I'd MC at side Splitters in Knoxville, 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:06.160 the comedy club there twenty five dollars a show, if 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:09.599 that counts. I didn't go full time until the videos 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:12.080 we mentioned earlier went viral in twenty sixteen, so I've 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:15.000 been like full time for seven years. I started in 1:21:15.040 --> 1:21:19.480 twenty ten at Splitters, and we're your first jokes about 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:24.360 poor Southern culture, Yeah, all of them. So you never 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:26.160 thought that you had to go make up jokes about 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:29.400 stuff that other comedians were talking about. No, And it's 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:31.519 kind of worked out because I still, like to this day, 1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:33.559 like for people who don't know they're listening or whatever, 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.080 like hear the liberal redneck thing. The stand up that 1:21:36.120 --> 1:21:41.400 I do has always been and it's still like, you know, culture, 1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:43.679 It's not like straight up political, like I might getting 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:45.559 us some political stuff, but I also talk a lot 1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:48.439 about just like how I grew up, or my hometown 1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:50.479 or you know, the South in general, how other people 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:51.800 think of this out. I got tons of jokes that 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.040 make fun of California ever since I moved there, you know, 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:58.600 like it's not just politics. But one thing I found is, 1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:01.280 like people in other plays, because I didn't realize either, 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:03.080 like you were saying, you're like, you know, you removed 1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:05.360 the North South from it, and similar stuff was happening 1:22:05.400 --> 1:22:08.760 in my hometown. Like I didn't realize that until later, 1:22:08.800 --> 1:22:10.439 but like that holds true for a lot of people 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.680 in a lot of places, meaning like a lot of 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:15.000 people can relate to that type of thing. Like the 1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:16.639 other day I went to my eye a new eye 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:21.240 doctor in Burbank, California. He's like a mid thirties Armenian 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:24.040 dude named doctor Hosseeppen, and he as soon as I 1:22:24.040 --> 1:22:25.320 came in, he was like, I know this is weird, 1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:27.080 but I'm a huge fan. He was like, I grew up. 1:22:27.240 --> 1:22:29.560 He was like, I grew up in a poor immigrant household, 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:31.200 and he was liking so much of what you say. 1:22:31.400 --> 1:22:34.559 Just yeah, right. And another time this dude come up 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:35.720 to me after a show and he was like, hey, 1:22:35.760 --> 1:22:38.400 so I grew up my whole life in Cuba and 1:22:38.520 --> 1:22:41.080 I never knew it until listening to your set just now, 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:43.800 but apparently I was a redneck. I guess, he was, like, 1:22:44.920 --> 1:22:48.759 because all that stuff you were saying like totally applied 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:52.600 to me too, So like you know, um, it's a 1:22:52.640 --> 1:22:55.280 more universal experience than a lot of people realize or whatever. 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.479 But that's like the high, that's the high mark of 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:02.400 art though man rights when you know, you you convey 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:07.720 a particular experience and then it, you know, it resonates 1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:11.240 with people who haven't lived that same one. Yeah, they 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.120 reflect on their own stuff. It makes them reflect on 1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:17.439 their own things and feel better about it, or they 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:20.840 laugh about it or right, you know. But yeah, I 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:23.840 don't remember the exact material, but yes, it was talking 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:26.240 about just my very first set was all about like 1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:28.559 and also at the time because I was really nervous 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:30.920 and everything, and also I probably had a couple of 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:32.960 drinks because I was nervous. So I get on stage 1:23:32.960 --> 1:23:34.920 and like, so all of those things means like my 1:23:34.960 --> 1:23:37.080 accident was like way thicker, you know, I'm up there, 1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:39.600 like I'm from clay Knty, Tennessee, you know, like it 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:42.519 just just belting out yeah without Maine in two and 1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:45.360 so it probably played because I was talking about how 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:49.200 redneck my hometown was. I remember I talked about moonshine, 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:50.640 but I don't remember any of the jokes. It was 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:53.960 talking about, like, you know, something about punching off makes 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:55.840 you want to punch a horse, you know, or whatever 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:58.479 else like somebody as we know the party's gonna turn 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:00.840 up is when some old boy hols the moon shine 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.519 out or you know, shit like that, pretty like honestly, 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:07.559 pretty U like blue collar comedy tour e type of 1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:10.960 type of stuff, honestly. And then as I kept going, 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:13.240 I started and now I started talking about more like 1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:16.680 whatever you want to call it, social commentary. You know, 1:24:16.720 --> 1:24:19.160 I'd have bits about like i'd make fun of the Bible, 1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:21.360 or I make fun of the Confederacy, or I get 1:24:21.360 --> 1:24:24.280 into racism or homophobia or that type of ship, but 1:24:24.360 --> 1:24:28.759 always mixed with you know, the other stuff, the lifestyle 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:30.960 stuff too. And now I'll talk about you know, I 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:33.360 talk about my wife a lot, you know what I mean, 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:35.240 So like trying to cover a lot of the bases. 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:38.680 Last night I was writing some kids materials. Well, you know, 1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:40.920 I just like, like, I don't want people to like, 1:24:40.960 --> 1:24:43.600 I don't want to just do the one thing, you 1:24:43.640 --> 1:24:45.479 know what I mean. I'm okay with people knowing me 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:48.479 primarily from one thing, but like, I want to do 1:24:48.640 --> 1:24:52.000 more than just the political stuff. Like I men, one 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:53.439 of the guys I work with a lot started a 1:24:53.479 --> 1:24:56.880 new podcast this year that's just us two hill billy's 1:24:56.920 --> 1:25:01.080 talking about fancy people shit. Right. It's called putting on 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:04.040 errors and it's like not, it's not political at all, 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:06.640 And I mean we have a lot of fun with it. 1:25:06.640 --> 1:25:08.160 I think it's funny. You know. I try to like 1:25:08.800 --> 1:25:12.320 find places where fancy and trashy people overlap, like you know, 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:19.840 cousin banging or you know, or like getting drunk on 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:23.439 a boat or nading a logger or you know, stuff 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:28.679 like that. Different. That's really that's a great little couple there. Yeah, 1:25:28.680 --> 1:25:31.160 it's cousin banging and getting drunk on boats. Yeah, right, 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:34.280 well more do you want? You know, the boats are different? 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:36.120 But yeah, yeah, exactly know what you talk about doing 1:25:36.120 --> 1:25:38.320 a kid humor? Man, it's like can and I just 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:40.040 want to spend it back. We gotta go way back 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:41.439 a little bit because I thought you were going to 1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:44.080 ask the question when you but we didn't never get there. 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:48.240 The uncles, no, when you when you're like a kid 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:50.840 and you're like, oh, I'm gonna do something in show 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.160 business and even instead you said you were starting to 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:55.599 write down things and you thought you could make fun 1:25:55.640 --> 1:25:58.080 of But my question is what in your head? What 1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:00.559 was going on when you're like, oh, I'm funny enough 1:26:00.600 --> 1:26:05.240 that I could present or were you like always kind 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:08.840 of class clowney, Like what gives somebody something in their 1:26:08.880 --> 1:26:10.760 head with They're like, oh, I'm funny enough that I 1:26:10.800 --> 1:26:13.479 can produce jokes. I like a lot of people laugh, 1:26:13.720 --> 1:26:16.800 like a lot of kids from a broken home situation. Whatever. 1:26:16.920 --> 1:26:19.400 I was funny, Like I was a smart kid, but 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:22.080 I was also if I wasn't like class clowney, but 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:24.559 I was funny. My friends would tell me, like, you know, 1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:27.240 you should be comedians some day or whatever. Like people 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:30.240 would say that. And again, I cannot stress enough the 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:36.600 inflated opinion I had of my own mental capabilities intellectual 1:26:36.640 --> 1:26:39.920 and creatively and everything. So like I was like, yeah, 1:26:39.960 --> 1:26:44.040 I totally do that, you know. And I and I'm 1:26:44.080 --> 1:26:46.400 not just saying this. I really was aware even then. 1:26:46.760 --> 1:26:49.679 I was like, I was like Cassie, I'm still gonna 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:52.760 have my accent right because I can't help it, but 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:59.720 I'm not gonna be dumb and that'll be wild. I'm 1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:03.840 ain't facetious. But like I was aware. I was aware 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:07.479 even then that it would be like a thing, sure 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:09.600 that I would have a thing without even trying to 1:27:09.640 --> 1:27:12.120 have a thing, just by virtue of who I am 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:14.840 as a person, you know, Like I thought about that 1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:19.000 even then, um so, but don't get me wrong, I 1:27:19.040 --> 1:27:21.600 was still very nervous. Like so, by the time I 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.479 get out of grad school and moved to Knoxville, I'm 1:27:23.479 --> 1:27:26.760 twenty three, and it was like I was very much like, 1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:29.439 all right, if you're gonna do it, do it like 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:31.840 it's either now or never. You've been keeping your little 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:35.800 notes and saying all this shit for years, but either 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:38.400 do it or don't. And so I signed up for 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:40.559 an open mic. I stacked the deck in my favor, 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:42.160 like a lot of first timers do. I brought a 1:27:42.160 --> 1:27:45.559 bunch of co workers and stuff with me. Yeah, most 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:48.439 people their first time, they end up doing that, you know, 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:50.280 they bring friends with them, and so it kind of 1:27:50.320 --> 1:27:52.519 pumps up the response you get. And then I just 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:54.479 got the bug, and I don't think I missed a 1:27:54.920 --> 1:27:56.760 I don't think I missed an open mic after that 1:27:56.800 --> 1:27:59.479 for like two and a half years or something. That 1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:02.080 first night, now, because I had my friends in the crowd, like, 1:28:02.080 --> 1:28:05.519 it went well. I you know, it wasn't long before 1:28:05.520 --> 1:28:08.800 I bombed, for sure, but by that time it was 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:14.000 too late. I was just fully in it, you know, man, dude, 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:18.040 That's like one of the things that like learning Spanish. 1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:23.880 UM pretty much that learning Spanish and doing a learning 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:26.920 Spanish and learning how to do um, and I'll never 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:29.439 do it. I'll never do either learning Spanish learning how 1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:31.040 to do stand up. I think it'd be like really 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:34.200 interesting man like saying bad hating to me, like I 1:28:34.280 --> 1:28:36.639 lost my arms and legs and ship. I would probably 1:28:36.640 --> 1:28:40.200 get into that. Yeah, usually something bad has happened to 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:43.559 I wouldn't no, no, that wouldn't be my line of humor. 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:45.559 But I'd be like I would walk away from certain 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:48.600 other activities. Well, yeah, I would walk away. Yeah, I 1:28:48.600 --> 1:28:52.320 would move away from certain activities, and I'd be like, 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:55.360 I gonna learn Spanish and do stand up. I funny, 1:28:55.840 --> 1:28:58.720 I can't tell you how many times I have started 1:28:58.960 --> 1:29:04.479 and then ultimately stopped learning Spanish in my life. So 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:08.920 I do absolutely. I've like picked it up so many times. 1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:11.600 I've had you know, both duo lingo and was that 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:16.280 Rosetta stone or whatever? Um, I've yeah, and like I'll 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:18.200 start to pick it up and everything, and then I 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:21.320 just stopped. For me. I I've always equated learning Spanish 1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:23.559 like learning to play guitar. For some reason, It's it's 1:29:23.560 --> 1:29:26.719 like something you ought to do. Something something that seems cool. 1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:30.519 It's like real easy to not keep up with, do 1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:31.920 you know what I mean, Like it seems cool, you 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:33.680 pick it up and then like next thing, you know, 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:36.479 you're like, oh damn, oh yeah, I don't do it 1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:41.559 so far away exactly right. Yeah, I've done that so 1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:44.120 many times that when we go to Mexico, Steve actually 1:29:44.120 --> 1:29:47.920 thinks I have decent Spanish. Oh yeah, I got. I 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:49.880 used to. I got to a point where I could, 1:29:49.880 --> 1:29:53.200 like I could read Spanish pretty like pretty well, you know, 1:29:53.320 --> 1:29:55.640 like I could uh, but I couldn't. I never was 1:29:55.680 --> 1:29:58.439 able to like uh, and I could speak a little 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:01.439 bit of it, but I never could a native Spanish speaker. 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:03.479 Talking was always its way too fast. I could never 1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:07.800 parse it, you know. But now I got next to nothing. 1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:11.599 It's my second most favorite country, next to America. Mexico. 1:30:12.280 --> 1:30:14.160 In Mexico, yeah, I go there a couple of times 1:30:14.200 --> 1:30:15.559 a year, and every time I go there, I come 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:19.200 home feeling just humiliated. So I haven't picked up much anything. 1:30:19.479 --> 1:30:21.560 I mean, well, living in living in southern California is 1:30:21.600 --> 1:30:23.599 like that too, you know. I mean It's like I 1:30:23.640 --> 1:30:25.880 told my said, that was another time I said, as 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:28.800 though that they have sole proprietorship over that land. Yeah, 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:33.120 but that's my like, my, that's where I go to 1:30:33.200 --> 1:30:36.280 feel like a dick for having out learned Spanish. Yeah, 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:38.639 but that was one of the times when I moved. 1:30:38.640 --> 1:30:40.559 When we first moved to La I was like, this 1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:45.200 is great, I'll finally pick up Spanish. Right seven years later, 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:50.840 I'm like, you know, oh uh my Yamo Trey, Like 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:53.040 I don't. I don't have it at all, you know, 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:57.599 and it's everywhere out there. Um uh. I won't get 1:30:57.600 --> 1:30:59.280 back into like some of your career stuff, but I 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:01.160 wanted to come in. You're talking about trying to write 1:31:01.200 --> 1:31:05.720 kids stuff. Yeah, well not like not four kids, because 1:31:05.760 --> 1:31:08.280 that's most comics have kids. They have material about their 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:11.160 kids and I never have. But it's like a starting path, 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:14.320 Like I don't know, it's it's like it's a path 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:17.599 you go down. Dude, I'm not a comedian. It's a 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:19.519 path you go down. And I think it's like a 1:31:19.560 --> 1:31:22.840 decision you make. Okay, please a lab break. I'm literally 1:31:22.960 --> 1:31:27.800 last says I'm gonna start doing jokes about my kids, 1:31:27.840 --> 1:31:30.320 And it's like a path you go down, right, It's 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:32.840 a path you go down. Yeah, but you also can't 1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:34.400 help it. I made it. I just made a bet 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.160 with my daughter for ten bucks that she bet me 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:39.479 that she broke her toe, and then she didn't. I said, 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:40.800 you didn't break her toe? She said, yeah, I did. 1:31:40.920 --> 1:31:42.760 So she gets the X ray she didn't break her toe, 1:31:42.880 --> 1:31:44.519 and I said, you one me ten bucks. She says, no, 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:46.840 I'm not doing the beat because I didn't realize I 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:51.080 hadn't broke my toe right home. That's like, it's the 1:31:51.120 --> 1:31:52.920 whole point of that, that whole thing. That's why like 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:54.760 that that that was the whole conversations about that. So 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:58.920 they do stuff that's funny. But then if you if 1:31:58.960 --> 1:32:01.960 you deal in that trafficing that, you become like a dad. 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:05.840 You become a dad comedian. Yeah, definitely, you're like my 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:10.160 wife boy, the old ball and chain, right, that's the 1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:14.439 old badle ax. Yeah, that's part of I think that's 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:17.040 part of why I've never done it. But I think 1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:19.960 another reason for me is, like I'm not saying all 1:32:19.960 --> 1:32:21.280 of them, but I feel like a lot of comics 1:32:21.320 --> 1:32:23.120 that have kids, when they talk about kids, it's some 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:27.439 version of like, you know, oh, they've sapped my life essence, 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:30.120 you know what I mean? Like they drain your youth, 1:32:30.240 --> 1:32:33.320 they kill your dreams. Right, it's like some versions just 1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:36.880 I've just never I've just never really felt that way, 1:32:36.920 --> 1:32:39.960 and so like I just I don't know, I didn't 1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:41.880 see the angle. I'm making a bunch of jokes and 1:32:42.200 --> 1:32:44.760 you know about how much I think it rocks to 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:48.160 have kids. Yeah, that's a good thing though, because I've 1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.599 talked to I've talked to some comedians I like about this, 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:54.040 where I've tried to explain it to them. I don't 1:32:54.040 --> 1:32:55.720 know if it resonates with them, but I would. I've 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:59.320 said that you you approach stand up from a position 1:32:59.320 --> 1:33:03.439 of strength, because the like sort of the stereotypical stand 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:07.080 up thing is like, oh the old battle acts. They're like, oh, 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:10.120 you know, no one at work takes me seriously, oh 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:14.200 my kids whatever, you know, no one, I don't get 1:33:14.280 --> 1:33:19.680 laid right, But to do comedy from yeah, comedy from 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:23.400 a position to strength, it's hard, but it's good. Like 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:28.959 comedy from a position of of of of comfort, yeah right, comfort, happiness, 1:33:29.520 --> 1:33:32.519 like feeling good about yourself and then do comedy. Yeah. Well, 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:34.280 And that's part of the because I do think it 1:33:34.320 --> 1:33:36.880 makes it somewhat novel because that's usually how to go. 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:38.840 The stuff I was kind of working on my side 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:42.599 or thinking about, is it's all positive about having kids, 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:44.360 like it sort of talks about everybody says all these 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:47.000 negative things about it, and then I tell why, you 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:49.439 know why I think it's positive, which is hopefully you know, 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:52.400 makes it different and it's fresh. But yeah, but I do, 1:33:52.479 --> 1:33:54.760 I mean, I do self deprecate, but I also like, 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:59.840 you know, um, like another part of my opial I 1:34:00.000 --> 1:34:02.280 think is literally sometimes just like big work, it's like 1:34:02.320 --> 1:34:06.360 the sounding kind of smart thing like sometimes like crowd 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:08.840 Connecticut or something, I feel like they're laughing, is like 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:11.000 do you hear that? It seems smart but it sounded dumb. 1:34:11.080 --> 1:34:16.880 I love that, like uh, And so that's because I've 1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:20.120 also taught there's this uh, this media company that I've 1:34:20.160 --> 1:34:22.880 worked with before, like doing some pilots and stuff. They're 1:34:22.920 --> 1:34:25.599 like a vice type of outfit, but it's not vice, 1:34:25.640 --> 1:34:27.680 and they're The guy that works here told me once 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:29.519 it's the reason He's like, the reason we love you 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:32.960 is because your pretension proof, right, He was like you 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:35.680 He's like he's like he's like, you're never gonna come 1:34:35.720 --> 1:34:39.120 across to our audience as preachy or pretentious because your 1:34:39.120 --> 1:34:41.880 Southern because of in the unspoken part is like because 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:45.800 of how dumb you sound, right Like it makes you 1:34:45.840 --> 1:34:49.240 immune to that, Like you could be just as you know, superior, 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:52.320 acting as you know, just as sanctimonious as anybody, but 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:54.800 you're gonna sound all dumb while you're doing it. Well, 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:59.000 you know, they done so on other Southerners though they 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:04.680 have They have people read the same speech. Yeah right, 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:06.920 They have people with different accents give the same speech, 1:35:06.960 --> 1:35:09.559 and then people rate how well they knew the subject matter. 1:35:09.760 --> 1:35:12.080 And the Southerners are like, damn, guy eated he's talking 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:15.920 about that. I did not know that was an actual study. Uh. 1:35:16.880 --> 1:35:19.200 I've got a bit about that, or that exact thing 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:21.040 about how if you say the same thing to people 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:23.120 in different accents, it'll impact them in different ways. The 1:35:23.120 --> 1:35:25.840 British person is gonna be more impressive, exactly right in 1:35:26.560 --> 1:35:28.559 in a Southern mail, it's gonna be less. It's gonna 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:30.760 he's gonna be The material he gives is gonna sound 1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:35.559 less legit. Can you give us an example? Uh So? 1:35:35.640 --> 1:35:38.160 The example I'm using right now is like, even if 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.599 you pick a famous quote that sounds smart on its 1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:44.559 own like like John Lennon's life is what happens when 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:48.080 you're busy making other plans. Right, like you said somebody 1:35:48.120 --> 1:35:50.200 in a French accent. You know, life is what that beens. 1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:52.320 We you're busy making us plans, people are like, you're 1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:54.240 so right, so we should have sex right now, right, 1:35:54.520 --> 1:35:55.880 Like I just want to have sex all of a sudden, 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:58.720 I don't even know why. You know Australian accent. Oh 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:01.439 might watch what happens you're busy making other plans. People 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:02.920 are like, he oh, yeah, well that's a party. This 1:36:03.000 --> 1:36:05.240 guy likes the party. I could just tell But if 1:36:05.240 --> 1:36:07.240 you say it in my accent, that's what happens when 1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:10.720 you're busy making other plans. People are like, oh no, 1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:14.400 he's not gonna tell us his plans. He I don't 1:36:14.400 --> 1:36:17.719 want to hear this guy's plans probably involved truck nuts 1:36:17.720 --> 1:36:21.040 and taky torches. Let's get out of here. But yeah, 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:22.880 but I did in other literal studies, I'd like to 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:39.360 check those out. We're talking about it. You had a 1:36:39.400 --> 1:36:41.400 bit for a while. You had a bit for I 1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:43.360 want to talk with the inception of the liberal redneck. 1:36:43.400 --> 1:36:45.120 You had a bit for a while where you do 1:36:46.479 --> 1:36:47.960 sort of that it would be like that same joke 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:49.679 he was talking about when you're talking about like having 1:36:49.680 --> 1:36:54.000 a liberal perspective coming from a rural Southerner. Yeah, but 1:36:54.040 --> 1:36:56.439 then you started doing it for real? Exactly what was 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:59.320 it the guy you going on it? Well, when did 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:02.240 you start to do this free standing without all the 1:37:02.640 --> 1:37:04.760 without all the build up. You know, there's actually a 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.799 very specific that I know exactly what it was because 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:10.800 I had that bit for a little while. I told 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:13.519 my comic friends, I'm thinking about making a series, an 1:37:13.520 --> 1:37:16.400 internet series based on that idea. Every one of them 1:37:16.479 --> 1:37:19.000 was like, that's a really good idea. You absolutely should 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:21.200 do that. But at the time I was like, I 1:37:21.240 --> 1:37:22.519 was like, I don't know, man, I have to like 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:24.640 save up money and buy a nice camera. I have 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:26.960 to learn how to edit. I'm theed lighting. It'll have 1:37:27.000 --> 1:37:29.880 to can't look like an amateur, you know. I thought 1:37:29.880 --> 1:37:32.120 there was like a barrier, you know. I thought I 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:35.400 had to do better, like in terms of that. And 1:37:35.439 --> 1:37:38.080 then one day, in like the spring of twenty sixteen, 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:42.880 North Carolina had passed that anti trans bathroom law they 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:46.080 had right at the transgender bathroom law. You guys remember that, Yeah, 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:48.720 do you remember, I can't remember, they passed a law 1:37:48.960 --> 1:37:52.200 prohibiting trans people from using but you had to go 1:37:52.280 --> 1:37:55.519 to the bathroom of your biological birth gender or whatever. 1:37:55.600 --> 1:37:57.840 So like a trans woman who is now a woman 1:37:58.320 --> 1:38:00.479 would have to go to mend room or that law 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:04.639 or whatever. So anyway they had made that law. I 1:38:04.680 --> 1:38:07.880 saw this video that was going viral amongst the right, 1:38:07.960 --> 1:38:09.439 so like I saw people and I went to high 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:11.400 school with sharing it on Facebook. And it was this 1:38:11.560 --> 1:38:15.639 preacher in North Carolina who was mad as hell about 1:38:15.640 --> 1:38:18.639 this whole thing. He's like preaching fire and Brimstone out 1:38:18.680 --> 1:38:21.240 in the woods for some reason, you know, yelling at 1:38:21.240 --> 1:38:24.200 his phone and not being funny at all, not a 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:27.280 dick joking site, just like just nothing, but but just 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:30.679 you know, fire and brimstone, shocking all about the horrors 1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:32.880 of these animals in the bathroom with our baby girls 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:35.280 and whatever else. And this video had like fifteen million 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:38.200 views on Facebook, right, And when I saw that, it 1:38:38.280 --> 1:38:40.320 was like a lightbulb went off. I was like, well, 1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:43.760 if that guy, if that thing is like the thing 1:38:43.800 --> 1:38:46.400 I'm trying to make fun of, then like I don't 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:48.559 need any that fancy shit, like in fact, that would 1:38:48.600 --> 1:38:51.680 be a mistake, like I should just do it exactly 1:38:51.720 --> 1:38:53.960 the way that he does. I should just go out 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:56.640 and yell at my phone, right, and now it's like 1:38:56.680 --> 1:38:58.880 the simplest thing in the world. But like I hadn't 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:01.040 looked at it that way until I saw that guy, 1:39:01.560 --> 1:39:04.240 and then I realized. And after I realized, I went 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:05.680 out and I made the first one. The first one 1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:08.080 was about my home state of Tennessee, trying to make 1:39:08.120 --> 1:39:11.720 the Holy Bible the official state buck right, and it 1:39:11.840 --> 1:39:14.479 got like seventy thousand views or something, which I was 1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:17.400 over the moon about. I was complete anonymity at this time, 1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:20.120 Like I was blown away by that. So I was like, 1:39:20.160 --> 1:39:22.680 I'm definitely onto something. I'll keep going. I made the 1:39:22.720 --> 1:39:25.960 second one. The second one was about the transgender bathroom law, 1:39:26.439 --> 1:39:29.280 and it ended up getting like tens of millions of 1:39:29.360 --> 1:39:32.040 views and went like crazy viral and changed my life 1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:35.400 literally overnight. So wherever that preacher is, I hope he 1:39:35.439 --> 1:39:39.719 knows it, like this was all his fault, mysterious ways. 1:39:39.760 --> 1:39:43.800 I'm right, buddy. So when when you had that and 1:39:43.800 --> 1:39:46.640 it took off, but you still would do normal, like 1:39:46.640 --> 1:39:51.040 you didn't just totally that then become your comedy bit 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:55.880 though stage. Yeah, you had to keep it separate. Yes, 1:39:56.000 --> 1:39:57.800 and I do keep it separate. But I'd like to say, 1:39:57.800 --> 1:40:01.719 and I've been you know, I've been touring post going 1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:04.280 viral for seven years now, and so I feel pretty 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:08.120 comfortable saying that, Like, if people like those videos, I 1:40:08.160 --> 1:40:11.080 think they'll like my stand up too. And I also 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.080 think that maybe people that don't like those videos or 1:40:13.080 --> 1:40:14.479 don't want to hear just a bunch of political stuff 1:40:14.520 --> 1:40:16.559 would also still like a lot of my stand up 1:40:16.720 --> 1:40:21.639 because I'm still the same guy, right, So like I'm 1:40:21.640 --> 1:40:24.680 still like scratching a lot of the same itches or 1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:26.320 touch you know what I mean. I'm still like in 1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:29.400 the same ballpark just by virtue of just being who 1:40:29.439 --> 1:40:33.519 I am. But no, I do not like rant about 1:40:33.560 --> 1:40:36.920 politics on stage as a stand up. I do, like, 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:42.000 you know, more traditional stand up material about whatever subjects 1:40:42.280 --> 1:40:46.720 has you're there's a difference between you could have political 1:40:46.760 --> 1:40:50.960 differences right with your friends you grew up with. But 1:40:51.320 --> 1:40:54.200 if you're gonna have if you're gonna do political differences 1:40:54.320 --> 1:40:57.920 and then get tons of audience, right, I could see 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:01.040 that causing friction. Do you have friction with people you 1:41:01.120 --> 1:41:03.040 grew up around? Yeah, I mean, I really hate to 1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:04.920 say this, but I mean some of them, I feel 1:41:04.960 --> 1:41:10.080 like it's just broken now. There was like friction at first, 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:13.479 and gradually it's nothing ever happened. It was never like, 1:41:13.560 --> 1:41:16.160 you know what we're done, Nothing like that ever happened. 1:41:16.200 --> 1:41:17.800 But I just at a certain point you realize, like 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:19.800 I ain't heard from or talk to him in a 1:41:19.800 --> 1:41:21.960 really long time, and like that's also on me, you 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:24.000 know what I mean. But it got not with all 1:41:24.040 --> 1:41:26.120 of them. A lot of my friends are like, they're 1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:29.000 like me. They're either a political or they're more you know, 1:41:29.320 --> 1:41:33.040 they like lean left. A lot of the other Salina boys, 1:41:33.240 --> 1:41:35.240 you know, the group of buddies I grew up with them. 1:41:35.240 --> 1:41:37.640 I'm still tight with. But some of them, yeah, it 1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:41.120 got weird. But if I ran into them at Christmas 1:41:41.240 --> 1:41:43.559 or whatever, I know that it would be cool, Like 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:46.080 we'd you know, hug it out. Might be slightly awkward, 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:49.240 but it would be okay. But like we almost never 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:52.960 used to talk politics at all ever. And one of 1:41:53.000 --> 1:41:54.880 the times that just happened. I had rented a house 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:57.040 bottom Dalhalla where everybody went out there, brought their kids 1:41:57.040 --> 1:41:59.320 and whatnot. And one of the guys I'm talking about 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:01.640 like he comes up to being out of nowhere, like 1:42:01.680 --> 1:42:03.519 we're staying there drinking beer, looking at a fire on 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:05.720 the lakeside or whatever, and out of nowhere. He's like, 1:42:06.560 --> 1:42:10.160 he's like, tray, you know me, man, He's like, you know, 1:42:10.360 --> 1:42:12.800 like I worked my job, I pay my taxes or 1:42:12.840 --> 1:42:15.559 raise my kids, like I'm a you know, I'm an 1:42:15.640 --> 1:42:18.240 upstanding member of society or whatever. And it's like and 1:42:18.280 --> 1:42:20.920 he is, He's an all American family man, one hundred percent. 1:42:20.920 --> 1:42:22.120 And I was like, yeah, I know, buddy, And he 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:25.880 was like, I just don't understand why you think I 1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:28.559 ought not be able to have a gun right. And 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:32.640 I was like, well, I don't think that, buddy, you know, 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:33.800 And he's like, what do you mean. I was like, 1:42:33.840 --> 1:42:35.639 I don't think. I've never said I don't know why 1:42:35.680 --> 1:42:37.599 you think. I think he just found out that I 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:40.280 was like liberal and then assumed I wanted to take 1:42:40.320 --> 1:42:42.200 everybody's guns or whatever. And I was like, I was like, 1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:45.599 I was like, you helped me move my grandpa's guns 1:42:45.640 --> 1:42:48.519 to my house, Like where you think? Like wh you 1:42:48.560 --> 1:42:50.160 think happened to it? But I told him, I was like, 1:42:50.720 --> 1:42:52.880 I was like, I I've never thought that was like, 1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:55.240 I just think that, you know, I think there's a 1:42:55.240 --> 1:42:57.839 lot of people in this country or dangerous or unhinged 1:42:57.920 --> 1:42:59.639 or whatever, and they shouldn't have a gun, and maybe 1:42:59.640 --> 1:43:02.040 we should try to find better ways to keep guns 1:43:02.040 --> 1:43:05.240 out of those people's hands. And he was like, well, hell, 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:07.400 I agree with that, and I was like right. I 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:10.240 was like, I was like, so we pretty much are 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:13.320 on the same page, right, you know, but like you 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:15.920 just assumed that it wasn't the case, because I feel 1:43:15.920 --> 1:43:18.000 like a lot of people do that. If someone self 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:19.840 identifies as being on the other side of the fence 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:23.160 politically from you, people tend to like automatically assign them 1:43:23.160 --> 1:43:25.200 to the far end of that special you know what 1:43:25.200 --> 1:43:27.639 I mean, And it works in both directions, and most 1:43:27.680 --> 1:43:29.760 of the time that's not that's not the case. Like 1:43:29.800 --> 1:43:32.800 those people do exist, and I could do without either 1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:34.840 one of them, you know, the extremest on either end. 1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:38.639 I'm not not a big fan of. Most people are 1:43:39.120 --> 1:43:42.559 not really that far separated from each other on most 1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:44.960 of like the big things I think, you know what 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:50.160 I mean, it's the centrist, the centrist redneck isn't funny. No, No, 1:43:50.400 --> 1:43:53.479 I'm not a centrist at all. I'm just saying, like, 1:43:53.760 --> 1:43:56.600 I think that if you were, it's not funny, right, Like, 1:43:56.720 --> 1:44:00.519 you know, it just has to be. That says a lot. 1:44:00.720 --> 1:44:03.519 I'm glad you get it. Yeah, no, it doesn't. You know, 1:44:03.600 --> 1:44:05.200 I don't need to do the whole. I don't need 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:06.720 to do the whole. I don't agree with you on 1:44:06.800 --> 1:44:09.240 everything because I pointing out the people. I don't agree 1:44:09.240 --> 1:44:11.920 with anybody and everything, right, including my mom and my wife. 1:44:11.960 --> 1:44:14.240 That's also so, I don't agree with anybody and everything. 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:16.920 But I think I like you're that'sh it's funny. I 1:44:17.000 --> 1:44:21.679 like your I mean appreciate I could watch uh it's funny. 1:44:21.960 --> 1:44:25.519 It pains me that no one there might be a 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:28.160 lot to it. It pains me that that very few 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:33.680 people from the right of the political spectrum can do 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:37.320 that kind of humor. M there's probably like a scientific 1:44:37.439 --> 1:44:40.479 explanation for it. There's some that can. They've done it, 1:44:40.560 --> 1:44:44.080 like the right has very like some comedians have very 1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:49.200 effectively made jokes about the excesses of the left. But 1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:51.840 even like you're looking like Bill Maher right, he's from 1:44:51.880 --> 1:44:54.599 the left, right, but he's very good at making jokes 1:44:54.600 --> 1:44:56.800 about the excesses of the left. So they've been able 1:44:56.840 --> 1:44:58.960 to do that. There's it's like, I don't know, there's 1:44:59.000 --> 1:45:02.920 just a lack of there's not that much really funny 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:07.760 news commentary coming from the right. It's just they don't 1:45:07.880 --> 1:45:11.120 I mean, I agree with because it's like they if 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:13.360 you have a right like a perspective from the right 1:45:13.520 --> 1:45:17.800 looking at commentary is much more likely to go what 1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:21.519 world coming to? Yeah, that someone needs to pay that's what, 1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:24.760 and they're less likely to do like, holy shit, dude, 1:45:24.760 --> 1:45:27.400 are you kidding me? And then joke about it. No, No, 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:29.280 I mean, yeah, that's what that was gonna be My 1:45:29.520 --> 1:45:31.720 response to that. It does seem like that's more of 1:45:31.760 --> 1:45:35.040 the default state of their commentary is more I a 1:45:35.240 --> 1:45:38.240 geared towards like vitriol and that sort of thing. That's 1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:40.600 a hot tip for comedian for right wing comedians. Just 1:45:40.600 --> 1:45:43.320 figure out how to do funny news commentary at night 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:46.720 and you probably get a big show. Uh yeah, you 1:45:46.760 --> 1:45:50.080 know there's something like, uh, well, nah, he's not he's 1:45:50.080 --> 1:45:51.519 not straight up right. When I was gonna say, I 1:45:51.560 --> 1:45:53.680 think one of the funniest dudes on earth is you know, 1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:56.800 Tim Dillon, and he's kind of you don't know, Tim 1:45:56.840 --> 1:46:01.720 Dillon he's so funny and he's like he but he's not, like, 1:46:01.800 --> 1:46:03.840 he's not super right wing. He's sort of got his 1:46:04.040 --> 1:46:05.840 own thing going on politically, do you know what I mean. 1:46:05.880 --> 1:46:09.000 It's hard to explain. I just uh, he's kind of 1:46:09.200 --> 1:46:11.160 you know, he's got a huge podcast and stuff lately. 1:46:11.280 --> 1:46:13.880 So I just thought that, you know, he might be 1:46:13.920 --> 1:46:15.640 a reference point people know. He's like a he's a 1:46:15.720 --> 1:46:17.840 d He's like a very long Island d like New 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:20.800 Yorker guy. He's like a like a tough talking kind 1:46:20.800 --> 1:46:23.640 of conservative dude. But he's also a gay man. And 1:46:23.720 --> 1:46:27.439 so it's like, but he's just I'm just saying he's 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:30.439 not a lefty and he's super funny. So like and 1:46:30.760 --> 1:46:32.439 Nick de Polo, I haven't you know, he's been a 1:46:32.439 --> 1:46:34.679 comic for forever. I always thought he was super funny. 1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:37.559 I know he's very conservative. Like there's you know, there's 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:39.960 some Dennis Miller turn conservative. I was always a huge 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:41.960 fan of his. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Um, 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.639 so you know there's some when I'm watching yourself though, man, 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:47.280 I'm always like I'm like, uh, I always have this 1:46:47.280 --> 1:46:48.960 thing in my head. I'm like, that's a good point, 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:54.320 and um, I'll think, like if if you're talking about 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:56.480 something that I'm not totally on board with your perspective 1:46:56.479 --> 1:46:59.360 on it, I'm listening, I'm like, damn it, that's a 1:46:59.400 --> 1:47:02.439 good point and someone would have to really think of 1:47:02.479 --> 1:47:05.760 a good way to get around that one. I got 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:09.759 nothing here. Really, I really appreciate all the stuff you're saying, 1:47:09.840 --> 1:47:12.920 because that's like I try to you know. I mean, 1:47:13.000 --> 1:47:15.600 that's what I'm going for a lot of times, Like 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:17.680 even if you disagree with me, you can like at 1:47:17.760 --> 1:47:21.120 least have to acknowledge part of where I'm coming from. Yeah, 1:47:21.120 --> 1:47:25.439 it's like it's like really, um, it's really funny, fun 1:47:25.600 --> 1:47:28.439 compelling arguments and then you kind of you know it too. 1:47:28.600 --> 1:47:33.600 Is like I guess for me, right, you know, for 1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:37.639 me being a Yankee, I guess maybe in some way 1:47:37.680 --> 1:47:39.519 I'm as guilty of the ship that you're talking about, 1:47:40.760 --> 1:47:42.800 the like stereotypes and stuff. You man, I don't know, 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:47.000 it's funny, like you know it, it's it's somehow in 1:47:47.120 --> 1:47:51.880 my head. It's um. Maybe I'll like I'll never get 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:56.360 over the surprise of like the joke in the first place. Yeah, right, yes, 1:47:56.640 --> 1:47:58.599 it's the joke in the first place. If you're gonna 1:47:58.640 --> 1:48:03.280 hear someone you know as like you're there with with 1:48:03.400 --> 1:48:09.960 your sort of background vocabulary, way of expression, accent on 1:48:10.120 --> 1:48:13.080 a rant with a camo hat. I feel like, let 1:48:13.080 --> 1:48:14.840 me let me guess how this guy feels about the 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:18.360 best feels about the bathroom is well, you know, I 1:48:18.360 --> 1:48:20.519 mean that's like I mean that right there is the 1:48:20.520 --> 1:48:24.240 whole sason, you know what i mean. I'm just like 1:48:24.280 --> 1:48:25.960 I could just I can hear it before you start, 1:48:26.000 --> 1:48:27.800 and then you like it winds up being like not 1:48:27.880 --> 1:48:29.639 at all you want you're going to hear. I mean 1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:32.639 that is kind of like my whole thing right there, 1:48:32.800 --> 1:48:35.360 you know what I mean? Like that, what how you 1:48:35.400 --> 1:48:38.000 just laid that out? I feel like that's it's kind 1:48:38.040 --> 1:48:39.960 of putting it in a nutshell the videos at least, 1:48:40.000 --> 1:48:41.760 because I mean, yeah, it's none of it would like 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:44.920 have worked the way that it does if people weren't 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:47.080 thinking that or thinking the same thing, you know. I mean, 1:48:47.120 --> 1:48:49.120 I'm very aware of it, and I and I get it. 1:48:49.120 --> 1:48:51.760 It's just like that's the thing too when it comes 1:48:51.800 --> 1:48:56.080 to South and stereotypes, I'm always like I'm not trying 1:48:56.120 --> 1:48:58.720 to say that they don't exist, like stereotypess this for 1:48:58.720 --> 1:49:00.479 reasons like a lot of those people are you know, 1:49:00.479 --> 1:49:02.160 a lot of that stuff is real. It's just that 1:49:02.560 --> 1:49:05.000 we don't have a monopoly on it. It's like you 1:49:05.040 --> 1:49:07.040 said earlier, I don't remember if we recording yet or not. 1:49:07.080 --> 1:49:10.800 Walmart got brought up and oh and you and you 1:49:10.840 --> 1:49:12.720 were like, we got those people up here too, and 1:49:13.000 --> 1:49:14.640 like right, like that, well, let me let me do 1:49:14.640 --> 1:49:16.360 it right, because Yanni's not guilty of doing that. I 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:20.960 did that right. So what Clay, our colleague Clay who 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:25.559 tell about earlier, has a UM. He has a very 1:49:25.560 --> 1:49:30.680 good podcast called Beargreas Podcast, and in it he's exploring them. 1:49:30.680 --> 1:49:33.479 He's from Arkansas, and somewhere he found that like for 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:36.920 some long span of years, Arkansas was the most maligned 1:49:37.800 --> 1:49:40.680 state in the Union, not even over Mississippi. Well, I 1:49:40.680 --> 1:49:43.559 think it got beat by West Virginia or something. West Virginia. 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:46.120 For a long time, Arkansas is the most maligned thing. 1:49:46.200 --> 1:49:50.000 And he's talking about the um sort of the persecution 1:49:50.080 --> 1:49:56.280 complex of yes of hill people, country people in Arkansas. 1:49:56.680 --> 1:49:58.920 And when he's laying this out to me, he was 1:49:59.680 --> 1:50:02.120 get into how there's when when you get into the 1:50:02.160 --> 1:50:04.040 complexity of it, though, he goes you know, not many 1:50:04.040 --> 1:50:09.240 people would guess that this world class art gallery. I 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:11.479 can't remember the name of it. You know, Crystal Bridges. 1:50:11.479 --> 1:50:14.920 I think, yeah, you would know that Crystal Bridges, this 1:50:15.080 --> 1:50:18.280 world class art galleries in Arkansas. Right, and he goes 1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:22.000 and you might not know the Walmart all right, And 1:50:22.120 --> 1:50:24.439 I was laughing with I was laughing at being like, 1:50:24.479 --> 1:50:26.519 I feel that that is on the other side of 1:50:26.560 --> 1:50:30.040 the art, right, that's not coupled with Crystal Bridges just 1:50:30.160 --> 1:50:34.920 totally exports Arkansas, Yeah, totally, yeah, like as a total 1:50:35.240 --> 1:50:37.560 So when you came here talking about our Walmart conversation, 1:50:37.640 --> 1:50:40.439 we were laughing about me and Clay's sort of public 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:46.000 debate about yeah, what what in the popular imagination when 1:50:46.040 --> 1:50:49.719 people think of Walmart and sort of how it's treated 1:50:49.720 --> 1:50:52.880 in the comedy world. Right, if you're gonna if a 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:55.280 comedian is gonna do a Walmart joke, Yeah, it's not 1:50:55.280 --> 1:50:58.760 gonna be about sophisticated business practices, right, it's not gonna 1:50:58.760 --> 1:51:04.280 be about revolutionizing yeah, supply chain innovation. Yeah. Yeah, it's 1:51:04.280 --> 1:51:09.320 like you're limiting edge logistics. I'm a new bleeding edge logistics. 1:51:09.360 --> 1:51:11.920 Bet about Walmart, it would be a wild angle to take, 1:51:12.000 --> 1:51:15.040 but they U. Yeah, well it's not just like comics 1:51:15.040 --> 1:51:17.480 doing bitsy. I mean there's like, you know, people of Walmart. 1:51:17.640 --> 1:51:19.920 Like it's like, you know what I'm talking about, Like, 1:51:19.960 --> 1:51:23.160 so there's a sub bredded. I think there's an Instagram. 1:51:23.200 --> 1:51:26.759 It's like they just post pictures of people of Walmart 1:51:26.840 --> 1:51:29.080 and the y in their natural habitat, you know, the 1:51:30.360 --> 1:51:33.600 the chipsisle or whatever like and you know, so I 1:51:33.600 --> 1:51:35.800 mean it's just like it's a thing. You know, it's not. 1:51:36.120 --> 1:51:38.840 But anyway, you said that we're talking about that. I 1:51:38.880 --> 1:51:41.160 said something about it and Jannest was like, well, to 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:43.519 be fair, like we got those up here too, And 1:51:43.640 --> 1:51:45.800 that's all I'm saying. It's like, especially since I started 1:51:45.800 --> 1:51:48.240 traveling as a comedian, everything going all over the place. 1:51:48.320 --> 1:51:52.959 Like if you drive from Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington, 1:51:53.040 --> 1:51:56.599 which I have done, like the topography and everything is different, 1:51:56.640 --> 1:51:58.920 but like culturally speaking, you start seeing a lot of 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:01.640 very familiar stuff if you're from the rural South, you 1:52:01.640 --> 1:52:05.840 know what I mean, the same thing between San Francisco dichotomy. Yeah, right, 1:52:06.040 --> 1:52:08.640 like you know the whole Like there's the man out 1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:12.040 self identify as Rednecks, but there's you know, redneck adjacent 1:52:12.200 --> 1:52:15.720 people and pretty much every state in this country, I mean, 1:52:15.760 --> 1:52:20.880 eastern Washington on the rednecks proud of it, no doubt, right, yeah, 1:52:20.920 --> 1:52:23.439 I know some of them are, like some of them are, yeah, 1:52:23.560 --> 1:52:26.120 proud of it. And I think like the way country music, 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:30.320 Nashville country, like radio country music has gone in recent years, 1:52:30.400 --> 1:52:34.040 is added to like the sort of like, you know, 1:52:34.560 --> 1:52:37.920 having that as an identity strongly wherever you're from, like 1:52:38.040 --> 1:52:41.400 if you're from Maine or wherever, you know, but like 1:52:41.560 --> 1:52:44.040 redneck and proud, you know, because it's become more of 1:52:44.080 --> 1:52:48.160 a like just like a cultural identification or something the 1:52:48.280 --> 1:52:52.920 country recent years. Yeah, right exactly. But yeah, that's the 1:52:52.960 --> 1:52:56.559 only genre of music that I'll that like, I don't. 1:52:56.600 --> 1:52:58.799 I don't have like favorite genres. I have like artists 1:52:58.800 --> 1:53:01.519 that I like and whatever, but like radio countries, only 1:53:01.520 --> 1:53:04.320 when I take like personally you know what I like, 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:07.120 I uh, I don't know, I can't stand it, like 1:53:07.160 --> 1:53:10.719 I like, well, like the stuff that is on the radio, 1:53:10.960 --> 1:53:14.960 not like yeah, you know, like not what they call Americana, right, 1:53:14.960 --> 1:53:18.120 which Americans like Stargill Simpson, Jason Zwell, Tyler Childress whatever. 1:53:18.479 --> 1:53:20.320 And I've always thought like as far as I could tell, 1:53:20.600 --> 1:53:25.280 Americana is just country music. That's good, right, So they 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:27.680 can't call it. They can't call it country, have to 1:53:27.720 --> 1:53:31.280 call it something else. But uh but yeah, like the 1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:33.920 last time I went downtown in Nashville, because I grew 1:53:34.000 --> 1:53:36.120 up going to Nashville all the time and I still 1:53:36.160 --> 1:53:37.960 go every year and do shows and stuff. But the 1:53:38.000 --> 1:53:40.919 last time I went downtown the real touristy part Broadway, 1:53:40.920 --> 1:53:44.160 Second Avenue, Honky Talking, right, I was in town with 1:53:44.160 --> 1:53:46.880 this camera crew. They're all California people, and they wanted 1:53:47.120 --> 1:53:49.719 they wanted to go Honky talk, like they specifically wanted 1:53:49.720 --> 1:53:51.599 to go downtown, and I was like, I don't want, 1:53:51.880 --> 1:53:54.240 you know, but I was like the the local guys. 1:53:54.240 --> 1:53:56.960 I was like, Okay, I'll go with you. And we 1:53:57.000 --> 1:53:59.240 get down there and they're like, uh. I just get 1:53:59.280 --> 1:54:00.760 in there and I have a couple drinks. I'm looking 1:54:00.760 --> 1:54:02.320 around and it's like to me, I just see all 1:54:02.320 --> 1:54:05.759 these people that are like like cosplaying as my cousin 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:07.720 Kenny Ray or something like that, like you know what 1:54:07.760 --> 1:54:09.599 I mean, Like they go down to go to redneck 1:54:09.680 --> 1:54:13.080 fantasy camp or something, you know, and like it just uh, 1:54:13.240 --> 1:54:15.240 I don't know. I'll just I'll get my red up 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:16.840 as it where I'll get annoyed. The last time I 1:54:16.920 --> 1:54:19.200 got kicked down, I got kicked out of a bar 1:54:19.280 --> 1:54:22.240 down there because they started playing Courtesy of the Red, White, 1:54:22.240 --> 1:54:24.320 and Blue, and everybody's singing along while this dude and 1:54:24.400 --> 1:54:27.040 a cut off camo shirt like white it stands on 1:54:27.080 --> 1:54:28.760 the bar, and waves of American fly back and forth 1:54:28.760 --> 1:54:32.000 across everybody else and all this stuff. And I started screaming. 1:54:32.160 --> 1:54:34.400 This is no longer true. I've since found out, but this, 1:54:34.640 --> 1:54:37.480 at one point was true. I started screaming at the 1:54:37.480 --> 1:54:42.880 top of my lungs. Toby Keith is a registered democratister Democrat, 1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:45.680 and they kicked me out for it. But uh and 1:54:45.800 --> 1:54:48.640 you were lying anyway, now he was He's not, you 1:54:48.720 --> 1:54:50.520 know you are. You're right. I was lying because I 1:54:50.560 --> 1:54:53.000 said he is a registered Democrat and that's not. He's 1:54:53.040 --> 1:54:56.800 not anymore. But around the time, that's emblematic of himself. 1:54:57.320 --> 1:55:00.720 That is, You're right, it's true. What do you call it? 1:55:01.480 --> 1:55:04.920 Um blue dog? Uh? No, when something's that, like a 1:55:04.960 --> 1:55:09.120 small thing is emblematic of something larger, microcosm, microcosm of 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:11.600 the American soulf and held it. Yeah, you're right. Man, 1:55:11.640 --> 1:55:13.879 I want to come see you do a show sometimes. 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:17.680 I'd love it. Yeah, Montana's I am. Yeah. You go 1:55:17.720 --> 1:55:19.880 to tray Crowder dot com check it out. Also got 1:55:19.880 --> 1:55:22.160 a special on Amazon right now. You can find there 1:55:22.200 --> 1:55:25.240 as well, which we watched. It was funny shows coming 1:55:25.320 --> 1:55:27.480 up Montana. I was actually about to say, I need 1:55:27.480 --> 1:55:29.520 to get on to my agent about this. Montana is 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:33.360 one of only like four or five states left in 1:55:33.400 --> 1:55:35.680 America that I have not done stand up in. Have 1:55:35.720 --> 1:55:40.800 you done Alaska? That's one of the other ones. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, 1:55:42.800 --> 1:55:45.360 North Dakota. I've been to far I got Maston Fargo 1:55:45.480 --> 1:55:53.120 on accident. On accident, I sort like we somebody else. Yes, Yes, 1:55:53.240 --> 1:55:55.760 the elevator doors open, we're holding pizza. We're going back 1:55:55.760 --> 1:55:58.240 to our tail round to record a podcast. Elevator doors open, 1:55:58.680 --> 1:56:02.440 just pandamon them pepper spray. Ever, some dude runs by 1:56:02.720 --> 1:56:05.160 bleeding from the nose and a wife beater like, you know, 1:56:05.800 --> 1:56:08.240 trying to get the hell out of there. We're like, 1:56:08.240 --> 1:56:10.520 we start coughing, throwing up and stuff or you know, 1:56:10.600 --> 1:56:13.160 almost thrown up. It was wild, And then the hotel 1:56:13.360 --> 1:56:16.600 was really weird. Is they It's almost like they wouldn't 1:56:16.600 --> 1:56:19.720 even acknowledge that it had happened. Like like, after we 1:56:19.760 --> 1:56:21.760 try to talk to him, we're like like, we're not like, 1:56:21.800 --> 1:56:24.240 we're not trying to complain, We're not gonna file charges 1:56:24.280 --> 1:56:26.960 or so anybody or whatever, but just like just what 1:56:27.000 --> 1:56:30.280 was that about, you know, And they're like, we, uh, 1:56:30.440 --> 1:56:33.080 you know, I really shouldn't speak on that kind of thing. 1:56:33.080 --> 1:56:34.320 I don't know what to tell you or whatever. Like 1:56:34.320 --> 1:56:37.000 they just wouldn't. They just wouldn't even acknowledge that this 1:56:37.080 --> 1:56:39.720 incident had occurred. So I still don't know the details 1:56:39.720 --> 1:56:42.320 of it. But yeah, I got I got inadvertently macedon Fargo. 1:56:42.400 --> 1:56:44.760 The show was fun though, South Dakota is one of 1:56:44.800 --> 1:56:48.720 them though, so yeah, but I'd love to come back 1:56:48.760 --> 1:56:51.480 to Montana and do a show up here. I just 1:56:51.560 --> 1:56:53.200 even when I got here, just driving around, I was like, 1:56:53.240 --> 1:56:57.000 I need to send my agent an email about making 1:56:57.040 --> 1:56:59.440 that happen. Yeah, tell us. I just realized there's all 1:56:59.520 --> 1:57:02.800 kinds of people here, right, Yeah, more and more, right, 1:57:03.880 --> 1:57:06.480 But yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. I 1:57:06.480 --> 1:57:13.200 feel like like music, you're you're surprised by um, you're 1:57:13.240 --> 1:57:17.200 surprised by the musicians that come through here. Yeah, I 1:57:17.200 --> 1:57:22.120 mean because because you know, relative to the relatively low population, 1:57:22.800 --> 1:57:26.000 you're surprised by the musicians, but you're not often surprised 1:57:26.000 --> 1:57:29.840 by well me and Crean saw Chappelle. Yeah, but but 1:57:29.880 --> 1:57:31.920 there's not like it's not like a big stop. It's 1:57:31.920 --> 1:57:33.680 not like a big stop for like, it's not a 1:57:33.680 --> 1:57:36.640 big comedy stop. Right, Maybe that's changing. Maybe I'm wrong. 1:57:37.000 --> 1:57:38.880 I feel it's a big comedy. So yeah, I think 1:57:38.920 --> 1:57:42.320 there's like a new club that someone from California moved 1:57:42.360 --> 1:57:45.280 here to open. I don't remember what it's called. I've 1:57:45.320 --> 1:57:49.280 never been there, but it last best coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, 1:57:49.480 --> 1:57:51.200 then there's a little problem where I don't go out 1:57:52.000 --> 1:57:59.000 that heard that I mean other than not out I know, yeah, yeah, 1:57:59.000 --> 1:58:01.080 I don't. That's one of the things. One of the 1:58:01.160 --> 1:58:04.320 upsides that I had in mind for having kids, like 1:58:04.360 --> 1:58:06.240 I told you other trying to think of like the 1:58:06.280 --> 1:58:08.600 positives having kids or whatever, is that kids are like 1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:11.280 a cheap code for getting out of shit and like 1:58:11.360 --> 1:58:14.960 canceling plans, like no one's ever gonna question you can 1:58:15.000 --> 1:58:16.680 get out of whatever you want to get out of it. 1:58:16.800 --> 1:58:18.640 As you get older, like getting out of stuff. It's 1:58:18.680 --> 1:58:22.080 like way better than going to stuff, and when you 1:58:22.080 --> 1:58:23.520 got to go to something, when you got to go 1:58:23.560 --> 1:58:24.880 to something, you don't want to go to these one 1:58:24.920 --> 1:58:26.640 of your kids exactly that way, you can come exactly 1:58:26.680 --> 1:58:29.080 focus on them, talk to them, pay attention to them, 1:58:29.120 --> 1:58:30.800 and then leverage them as why you gotta go, why 1:58:30.840 --> 1:58:32.520 you gotta go, why you gotta get out of there? Exactly? 1:58:32.640 --> 1:58:35.320 Love it? Yeah, I love it. It's a great thing. 1:58:35.920 --> 1:58:38.240 It drives a real wedge in my marriage that I 1:58:38.280 --> 1:58:40.360 don't like to do stuff. Yeah, I don't like to 1:58:40.400 --> 1:58:43.240 go out in public. Right, Yeah, I mean my wife's 1:58:43.240 --> 1:58:45.480 the same way. But I tell you, I mean you're 1:58:45.480 --> 1:58:49.400 probably travel even more than I do, I guess or not, right, 1:58:49.600 --> 1:58:51.360 like in a super public way with it. We kind 1:58:51.360 --> 1:58:54.720 of hold up. Yeah, right, we totally hold up. But 1:58:54.880 --> 1:58:56.640 is that But is that why because you travel so 1:58:56.680 --> 1:58:58.000 much when you're back here you just don't want to 1:58:58.040 --> 1:59:00.240 do nothing? Or also you just can't go out? No, 1:59:00.440 --> 1:59:02.600 it's older, I get yeah, right, I just don't want 1:59:02.600 --> 1:59:04.040 to do it. I just don't. I don't want to. 1:59:04.160 --> 1:59:06.800 I just don't like engaging that much. You know, it 1:59:07.000 --> 1:59:09.360 gets a problem I got to work through totally or not. 1:59:09.520 --> 1:59:14.040 We could also just not which is probably what you 1:59:14.120 --> 1:59:17.720 just gonna get yourself one of them red hats. Oh yeah, 1:59:18.280 --> 1:59:22.200 I'm talking about people. Oh yeah, brother, I feel like, man, 1:59:22.200 --> 1:59:23.680 I never knew it could be so fun to go out. 1:59:25.840 --> 1:59:32.120 I knew it a lot more fun. I need to get, Like, yeah, 1:59:32.280 --> 1:59:34.000 I need to get a Biden hat and go out. 1:59:34.360 --> 1:59:36.040 No one will talk to me. Do we still enough 1:59:36.080 --> 1:59:39.200 time to take and tell me why all soulinders are 1:59:39.240 --> 1:59:42.000 just born good storytellers? Oh yeah, this is good to 1:59:42.040 --> 1:59:47.280 explore your prejudice. Yeah, his prejudice or you better at it. 1:59:47.920 --> 1:59:50.120 Oh man, you know, I don't want to I want 1:59:50.120 --> 1:59:54.560 to start any kind of uh, you know, regional dispute 1:59:54.680 --> 1:59:58.200 or anything. But got in supremacy of storytelling supremacy. But 1:59:58.280 --> 2:00:02.760 it's definitely like a thing. And like I got this one, buddy. 2:00:03.000 --> 2:00:06.200 He's just a good old boy. His actual like his 2:00:06.800 --> 2:00:12.160 nickname is Porno. Actually nickname's Regulars, Like you know, Porno 2:00:12.320 --> 2:00:17.200 ducks Sunshine, right, But anyway, Porno's like he's like a machinist, 2:00:17.480 --> 2:00:21.360 you know, works in a factory. Good dude, everything pretty 2:00:21.440 --> 2:00:23.480 damn country from my hometown and all this, and he's 2:00:23.520 --> 2:00:25.400 just like but he's not any kind performer is what 2:00:25.440 --> 2:00:28.760 I'm saying. And but he's just like just a natural 2:00:29.560 --> 2:00:32.320 masterclass storyteller, do you know what I mean, Like he'll 2:00:32.360 --> 2:00:36.640 just anytime he's done anything, like if you ask him 2:00:36.640 --> 2:00:38.320 about it, you know you're in for a good time, 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:39.920 you know what I mean. Like the fair he came 2:00:39.920 --> 2:00:42.600 to visit me in Knoxville from our hometown. This man 2:00:42.640 --> 2:00:44.880 at this point in time I'm talking about, he was 2:00:44.880 --> 2:00:47.880 probably thirty two, thirty one, thirty two, first time he'd 2:00:47.880 --> 2:00:50.960 ever driven on the interstate, right, And so like I 2:00:51.080 --> 2:00:54.080 knew that was gonna be funny when he got there, right, 2:00:54.160 --> 2:00:56.160 you know, Man, he comes through just like all out 2:00:56.160 --> 2:00:58.400 of whack. It's like sweating and like god, damn something, 2:00:58.800 --> 2:01:00.800 Oh he's animals out here, you know whatever. And then 2:01:00.840 --> 2:01:02.640 it's like tell me all about it, porno, you know, 2:01:02.680 --> 2:01:06.000 And then he does, and it's always tremendous. As for 2:01:06.280 --> 2:01:08.720 why that is, I wish I had an answer for you, 2:01:08.760 --> 2:01:10.480 I don't know. You know, some things are just like 2:01:11.200 --> 2:01:15.560 ingrained culturally, I guess. Like and also we're big and 2:01:15.640 --> 2:01:17.320 I mean this in a I mean this in a 2:01:17.360 --> 2:01:20.440 good way where like we're big bullshitters. Yeah, do you know, 2:01:20.680 --> 2:01:24.400 like just naturally like I'm agreeing because I understand that 2:01:24.440 --> 2:01:26.840 you're saying that in a positive light. Yeah, right now, 2:01:27.600 --> 2:01:32.160 abellish things for either you know, comedic or dramatic effect 2:01:32.280 --> 2:01:34.800 or whatever. It's just like that's also a big thing culturally. 2:01:34.800 --> 2:01:36.520 It's like everybody's like a little bit fool of ship, 2:01:36.560 --> 2:01:39.000 but in a fun way, you know. And I think 2:01:39.080 --> 2:01:42.000 that you know, that helps him telling a story if 2:01:42.040 --> 2:01:43.840 you're the type of person to do that kind of thing. 2:01:44.280 --> 2:01:47.040 And when I married a gal from the South, from 2:01:47.080 --> 2:01:50.040 North Carolina, and when I got introduced to the South, 2:01:50.120 --> 2:01:52.320 I feel like I would go and visit just feel like, 2:01:52.400 --> 2:01:54.240 this is great. I'm just gonna listen to people talking, 2:01:54.480 --> 2:01:56.960 laugh my ass off, yeah now because the accident, because 2:01:56.960 --> 2:01:59.640 the stories are good and I'm laughing, it's great. So 2:02:00.160 --> 2:02:02.640 I was entertained by it. So when you went to 2:02:02.760 --> 2:02:04.720 Michigan for the first time, were you like, fuck, these 2:02:04.760 --> 2:02:06.640 people were boring? Oh yeah, that's a good way of 2:02:06.680 --> 2:02:11.000 putting it. Did you think they were great storytellers? Uh? No, No, 2:02:11.320 --> 2:02:14.480 but I didn't think. I didn't think they were boring 2:02:15.160 --> 2:02:16.840 or anything. I mean, my first first time I ever 2:02:16.920 --> 2:02:18.560 went to Michigan was up that old day job. I 2:02:18.640 --> 2:02:21.400 spent a week in Michigan at a training thing with 2:02:21.440 --> 2:02:23.600 other people. They worked for the Department of Defense, So 2:02:23.680 --> 2:02:26.760 it was like a pretty like buttoned up affair, do 2:02:26.800 --> 2:02:29.560 you know what I mean? But I remember one time 2:02:29.560 --> 2:02:31.600 I don't know the specifics of it. We were broken 2:02:31.680 --> 2:02:33.480 up into a group. We're having to decide on something. 2:02:33.680 --> 2:02:35.680 I couldn't agree. One girl said one thing, another girl 2:02:35.720 --> 2:02:38.280 said the other, and I said, quoting old brother where 2:02:38.360 --> 2:02:40.520 art Thou? I said, well, I'm with you fellers right, 2:02:41.560 --> 2:02:44.120 like just playing around, And I could tell that they 2:02:44.200 --> 2:02:47.200 both just thought I was just saying that, do you 2:02:47.240 --> 2:02:49.200 know what I mean? Like they had no idea it was. 2:02:49.840 --> 2:02:52.120 I was quoting a movie or doing a bit or whatever. 2:02:52.240 --> 2:02:54.440 They were just like, okay, that doesn't help, but all right, 2:02:57.120 --> 2:03:01.080 But but yeah, no, I don't know. I like, I've 2:03:01.120 --> 2:03:04.960 gone to appreciate the Midwest because I think that, like, um, well, 2:03:04.960 --> 2:03:06.440 because I also like why, I don't know, I don't 2:03:06.440 --> 2:03:08.280 know where you're from originally, but you're talk about getting 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:10.400 introduced to the South, Like I feel like you guys 2:03:10.400 --> 2:03:15.120 in particular, like your whole thing, Like this is gonna 2:03:15.160 --> 2:03:17.720 sound so dumb, but I can remember I can remember 2:03:17.800 --> 2:03:22.800 being surprised also to find out that like hunting and 2:03:22.800 --> 2:03:25.240 fishing and all that type of stuff was so big 2:03:25.240 --> 2:03:27.480 in other parts of the country too. Like as a kid, 2:03:28.240 --> 2:03:33.720 I thought that was all South shit. Yeah, right, like 2:03:33.760 --> 2:03:35.600 because it was such a huge thing there, and I 2:03:35.640 --> 2:03:38.000 knew it wasn't a thing everywhere, and I thought that 2:03:38.120 --> 2:03:40.560 was like like a Southern thing, but obviously it's not. 2:03:40.760 --> 2:03:43.520 And so I'm saying, like, it's just I just feel 2:03:43.520 --> 2:03:46.080 like there's a whole lot of overlap, you know what 2:03:46.120 --> 2:03:48.839 I mean, like cultural overlor in terms of interest and whatnot. 2:03:48.920 --> 2:03:52.720 Like you're gonna sound different, but still you know, it 2:03:52.720 --> 2:03:55.080 shouldn't be too alien to you. I wouldn't think a 2:03:55.120 --> 2:03:57.040 lot of you can definitely find a lot of common ground. 2:03:57.360 --> 2:04:03.080 I would think, you know, sportsman for sure. Man. Yeah, 2:04:03.160 --> 2:04:07.920 but uh but yeah. But are people in Michigan good 2:04:08.000 --> 2:04:15.720 telling stories? I don't. I don't know. Yeah, right, I think, Well, 2:04:15.920 --> 2:04:17.960 let me here's the way of putting it. Here's what 2:04:18.280 --> 2:04:20.320 I'm trying to wrap her up. I gotta tell you 2:04:20.320 --> 2:04:25.400 one last story. Me and Ronnie Bang okay, missile, Me 2:04:25.440 --> 2:04:28.240 and another very Yankee person. We were down in South 2:04:28.240 --> 2:04:30.680 Carolina one time. We're with some guys, we're working up 2:04:30.720 --> 2:04:33.760 a custom load for a rifle. So you go out 2:04:34.000 --> 2:04:37.400 shoot a couple rounds okay, and you go back into 2:04:37.400 --> 2:04:40.920 the reloading bench and mess around and the amount Like 2:04:41.080 --> 2:04:48.240 he was losing his mind because the going in, getting 2:04:48.240 --> 2:04:54.600 the ice tea and talking and everybody sits down. Yeah right, 2:04:55.840 --> 2:04:59.960 and he's like, holy shit, man, this should take twenty minutes. 2:05:00.000 --> 2:05:03.040 He was the thing. Yeah, the world and he like 2:05:03.520 --> 2:05:08.040 he went on rant yeah afterward about he went on 2:05:08.080 --> 2:05:13.920 a rant about what in the world, you know. I 2:05:13.920 --> 2:05:16.360 think he attributed it to there's no sense of needing 2:05:16.400 --> 2:05:18.880 to um. He at treated that there's no sense of 2:05:18.960 --> 2:05:22.640 needing to get like the wood cut and the crop 2:05:22.720 --> 2:05:27.400 in right because the cold's coming. Yeah no, yeah, yeah, 2:05:27.600 --> 2:05:30.760 winter is not coming. I'll say. It's like, you know, 2:05:30.920 --> 2:05:33.320 he just cut though this cut would later now is 2:05:33.960 --> 2:05:35.760 not gonna be able to go anywhere because the snow 2:05:35.920 --> 2:05:38.120 life definitely does move at like a slower pace like 2:05:38.240 --> 2:05:40.160 legitimate layers, like I feel like a lot of rednecks 2:05:40.200 --> 2:05:44.360 lost Southern people, will you know, take half an hour 2:05:44.440 --> 2:05:46.800 or forty five minutes to say goodbye, to like leave 2:05:46.840 --> 2:05:49.560 a place. Show Man's like, well, better get out of here. 2:05:49.760 --> 2:05:51.280 You know, and then they stand up and they're like 2:05:51.640 --> 2:05:55.080 you talp the page lately, you know, just start a 2:05:55.080 --> 2:05:57.120 whole new thing, and then, you know, and then end 2:05:57.200 --> 2:06:00.040 up in the driveway standing by the truck having a 2:06:00.080 --> 2:06:02.400 whole separate conversation for ten fifth table minutes. Get in 2:06:02.440 --> 2:06:05.080 the truck, roll the window down to keep talking, you know, 2:06:06.120 --> 2:06:08.400 highly pull out on Yale on their way out the 2:06:09.320 --> 2:06:11.960 guns from Birmingham, Alabama. Whenever we try to leave your house, 2:06:12.000 --> 2:06:14.360 it'd be a three hour affairs off for us, four 2:06:14.400 --> 2:06:16.840 different dishes or something, and you know to take well, 2:06:16.880 --> 2:06:21.440 you're gonna drive up and blow away. There's Midwest comics 2:06:21.560 --> 2:06:24.760 that do best bits about the Midwest Goodbye, and it's 2:06:25.000 --> 2:06:27.920 very similar. Well stay right there, yeah, yeah, like start 2:06:27.920 --> 2:06:29.840 by putting your coat on, then stay at the door 2:06:29.840 --> 2:06:31.920 and have another beer, and then you have to stay 2:06:32.000 --> 2:06:34.880 longer because you gotta let that beer wear off, and yeah, 2:06:34.920 --> 2:06:37.080 so on, so on and so forth. Yeah, that's what 2:06:37.080 --> 2:06:38.480 I'm saying. It is, like I do think there's like 2:06:38.520 --> 2:06:42.120 a lot of cultural overlap really between the because also 2:06:42.120 --> 2:06:44.200 it's like that's all as far as like the coast 2:06:44.320 --> 2:06:46.800 coastal elites and all that stuff, you know, the Midwest. 2:06:46.920 --> 2:06:50.200 Also is that's flyover country? Do you know what I mean? Like, 2:06:50.360 --> 2:06:53.520 there's it's all the middle part of America that you know, 2:06:53.560 --> 2:06:55.720 the coast looks down their noses at or whatever, and 2:06:55.760 --> 2:06:57.440 there's just I don't know, there's a lot of I 2:06:57.440 --> 2:06:59.600 think there's a lot of common ground there or should be, 2:07:00.160 --> 2:07:02.400 but I think it's probably the Southerners who would hold 2:07:02.440 --> 2:07:07.760 it up because you know, the whole Yankee thing. No, yeah, 2:07:08.200 --> 2:07:10.560 all right, man, tell people how to find you pretty 2:07:10.640 --> 2:07:12.440 much just by name, which is spelled round because I'm 2:07:12.440 --> 2:07:15.240 white trash. It's a t r a E Crowder. How 2:07:15.240 --> 2:07:17.360 are they supposed to spell it t r e y generally? 2:07:18.280 --> 2:07:22.400 Oh tr a e r a E Crowder dot com 2:07:22.960 --> 2:07:25.200 or just that's how people can find your shows. That's 2:07:25.440 --> 2:07:28.880 find my shows and the special But any social media 2:07:28.960 --> 2:07:31.720 you use, it's also I'm also just Trey Crowder on there, 2:07:31.760 --> 2:07:33.880 except for Instagram because of some bitch scoped me. So 2:07:33.920 --> 2:07:37.240 I'm official Tray Crowder on Instagram. But the rest of 2:07:37.280 --> 2:07:39.720 them are just Trey Crowder, so pretty much just called 2:07:40.040 --> 2:07:44.560 scoped scoped. Yeah, I said scooped, scooped, Oh yeah, no, 2:07:44.560 --> 2:07:47.400 I know, I was asking you scooped you you know, 2:07:47.480 --> 2:07:51.040 like you know, like contact information online, you dex them 2:07:51.120 --> 2:07:54.879 docks docks. Yeah, yeah, docs. I thought I thought sculped 2:07:54.960 --> 2:07:56.760 was getting I mean, I kind of feel like that 2:07:57.080 --> 2:08:00.600 maybe works better. Really start having Well that's what it is. 2:08:00.640 --> 2:08:03.360 If he gets scooped, Like as a journal somebody beat 2:08:03.400 --> 2:08:05.440 you to the story or whatever, you get scooped. And 2:08:05.560 --> 2:08:07.480 that's I think why I said that. But I didn't 2:08:07.480 --> 2:08:10.160 even really think about it. But scoped, I like scoped better. 2:08:10.360 --> 2:08:14.360 It's yeah, it's act like that. I was called unawares right, Yeah, yeah, 2:08:14.360 --> 2:08:19.560 I didn't see it coming. Yeah, like even happened to Trump. 2:08:19.600 --> 2:08:21.200 You had to do the real Donald Trump because someone 2:08:21.240 --> 2:08:24.800 else picked up is yeah. Thing all right, man, Some 2:08:24.840 --> 2:08:27.280 people find you there if you're if you're if you're 2:08:27.320 --> 2:08:29.880 a big left and you'd like to laugh, we'll check 2:08:29.920 --> 2:08:31.360 them out. If you're a super right wing guy and 2:08:31.360 --> 2:08:33.600 you want to be all pissed off and laugh, check 2:08:33.640 --> 2:08:36.240 them out. Yeah, either way, were welcome either way. A 2:08:36.280 --> 2:08:37.960 lot of rightway people come to my shows because they 2:08:37.960 --> 2:08:40.640 get drugged there by their spouse or whatever. And usually 2:08:41.160 --> 2:08:43.440 usually at the end of the show they're like, I 2:08:43.440 --> 2:08:45.480 didn't agree with the damn word you said. But you 2:08:45.520 --> 2:08:47.600 are funny. Though I like to give you that, I 2:08:47.640 --> 2:08:52.760 think you'll dig as redneck. Anyway, Thank you guys for 2:08:52.800 --> 2:08:55.680 having me. This was great. Appreciate it man, good, Yeah, 2:08:55.720 --> 2:09:10.120 thanks for coming. All right, all on, see your gray 2:09:11.320 --> 2:09:21.520 shine like silver in the sun. Right on, all right, 2:09:22.560 --> 2:09:29.760 all alight on, sweetheart, we're done. Beat this damn horse 2:09:29.880 --> 2:09:33.680 to death to take it the new one and ride. 2:09:37.120 --> 2:09:42.840 We're done beat this damn horse today, so take your 2:09:42.920 --> 2:09:44.960 new one and ride on.