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Speaker 1: Joined today by comedian and commentator Trey Crowder. Yeah you might.

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Speaker 1: You might know him as you might know him as

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Speaker 1: the liberal redneck or Chattanooga Phil chat Charlie. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: our beautiful lovely engineer Phil Krin's here nest is here? Okay,

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Speaker 1: chattan Uga Charlie. You were you're you're fixing talking about

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Speaker 1: chattan Nuga Charlie. Yeah, you asked if I had been

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Speaker 1: any TV shows and said, I played this guy Chattanooga

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Speaker 1: and another while I get to that in a minute,

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Speaker 1: her a free lifetime hunting license. Did you anything? Is

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Speaker 1: it opening on rez? I've read that far yet over

423
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Speaker 1: the last seven years, did you see that in there? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't. Over the last seven years, one hundred and

425
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Speaker 1: twelve kyles have been tagged and released. Huh so far

426
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: under half? So in seven years under half, it's not

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Speaker 1: terribly descriptive. I would have just have given the number.

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00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: I would have given the number, so somewhere between zero

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Speaker 1: and fifty six. Yeah, maybe they're just embarrassed of the

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Speaker 1: number somewhere under half, yeah, meaning somewhere between undrea are somewhere,

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Speaker 1: So somewhere between zero and fifty six. Yeah, because if

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Speaker 1: it said no one's gotten one yet, people aren't gonna

433
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: get fired up. They're not gonna feel like everyone around

434
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: you is winning. Um. Under half of the tag Kyleot

435
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Speaker 1: has been reported taken. Kyot's tagged in any year are

436
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Speaker 1: eligible for the life lifetime license. For information on the

437
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Kyote Harvest Incentive Program, you can go to the DNR

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00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: South Caroline's DNR page. What I imagine they're trying to

439
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: get around is they're trying to get around the you know,

440
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: for a long time there was just flat out uh

441
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: bounty programs. I think they're they're striving for the bounty thing,

442
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: but they're trying to gus see it up, gussied up

443
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: in a more socially acceptable way. And it might be

444
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: like a little unsavory to some folks if they were

445
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: saying it's like cold heart cash. Is my guess of

446
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: what's happening there a little bit south of there in Florida,

447
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: a huge correction on Florida mountain lions. Chester should be

448
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: here because it's his fault. Yeah, that's true. We're doing

449
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: an episode and I was throwing research questions to Chester

450
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: on the fly and he was messing them all up.

451
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: The episode was called Spitting and Strutting. We're discussing mountain

452
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: lions being relocated from Texas to Florida. Yanni was present.

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Speaker 1: The gist of it was, I spent a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks in Florida, and everywhere I went I got a

455
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: year fold from people about cougar recovery and the debate

456
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: around weather. Many people feel that cougary carvery has gotten

457
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: too successful. There has been too much leaning into and

458
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: making sack or faces on behalf of the species that

459
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: is not regarded to be imperiled anymore. And not only that,

460
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: and they're having a devastating impact on deer. Not only that,

461
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: but people were saying how it's not even the same

462
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: cougar that used to be here because they brought in

463
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: super cougars from Texas and I thought it was just

464
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: seven or eight. Chester got to reading on some crazy website,

465
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: the Mountain Lion Foundation website, which is not like Wild

466
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Turkey Foundation, you know, it's like, uh not Foundation's Rocking

467
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: mount Elk Foundation, Turkey Federation, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. It's

468
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: a it's like a animal rights organization. Anyhow, Chester got

469
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: to spewing off about all kinds of mountain lions brought

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00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: down from Texas, which is not the case. They brought

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00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: in a total eight and it actually removed some, which

472
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: really surprised me. Some of the mountain lions that they

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Speaker 1: brought from Texas to Florida. So well, at its lowest number.

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Speaker 1: We got it right here. If you want a quick,

475
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: little more informed background on this issue, we covered just

476
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: quite well. Panthers used to be distributed everywhere, like everywhere

477
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: in the lower forty eight across much of Canada, Central America,

478
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: South America, from Tierra del Fuego to like you know,

479
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: possibly up into Yukon Territory Mackenzie Delta. Even maybe this

480
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: animals was the most widely distributed mammal in the New

481
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: World I think globally, right, most widely distributed animal Western Hemisphere,

482
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: let's go with that. As they got whittled away through

483
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: poisoning and other predator control things, bowing he's poisoning. You

484
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: wound up where they were kind of existing in the

485
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: wildest little corners, and the only population that held on

486
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: in the east east of the Mississippi. The only population

487
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: that held on was this little isolated pocket of them

488
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Speaker 1: in southwest Florida. So from nineteen eighty six to nineteen

489
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers, so this

490
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: is adults, not male, not like all males, not all females.

491
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Speaker 1: The limited the minimum number of adult panthers fluctuated from

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00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty two. I often use this as

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00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the greatest piece of evidence against Bigfoot. Go back to

494
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: those years in South Florida when you had twenty to

495
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: thirty mountain lions. They're still getting hit every year on

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00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: the road. So few you have a population of a

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: couple dozen, and they're still getting hit every year on

498
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: the roads. But Bigfoot can go five hundred years. How

499
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: many of them exist though, there's gonna be enough to

500
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: make love and reproduce. There's no primate that lives forever. Also,

501
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: maybe Bigfoot knows to look both ways. Well, let mister

502
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: smarty pants, maybe you know about the guy in Montana

503
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: that put a big Foot suit on and jumped out

504
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: in front of a car to incite a Bigfoot sighting.

505
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: It was just struck and killed. That was struck and

506
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: killed by two cars. That good. Why did he get hit?

507
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: It's a dumber than actual bigfoot. From nineteen eighty six

508
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety five, the minimum number of adult panthers

509
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: fluctuated from twenty four to thirty two. They brought in eight.

510
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: They put some males in. This is interesting. They put

511
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: some males in. Once they knew that those males had bread,

512
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: they pulled a couple of the mails back out. Another

513
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: correction is this from the This from the the journal.

514
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: This is from Science. Correct the journal Science. There is

515
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: no evidence in breeding is causing physical mail formations and

516
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: negatively affecting recovery. Oh sorry, take all that out, Phil,

517
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Maybe leave it in. I don't know

518
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: you decide forget what I was just saying. Florida panthers, Okay,

519
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Florida planthers were suffering from the effects of inbreeding, including

520
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: crypto chidism, low sperm quality. That's what I have, kink,

521
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: no quality, kink tales, pelage, cowlicks, opportunistic infections in atrial

522
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: septal defects. So they brought in to save this couple

523
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: dozen animals. They brought in animals from Texas, eight not twenty.

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell Chester was thrown around, No, I think

525
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: he in total it was like close to forty that

526
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: he added up over years. So now they got two hundred.

527
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: Now they got a minimum of two hundred and fifty.

528
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: And now it's starting to cause a lot of consternation

529
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: among people who are feel sportsmen in Florida who are

530
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: feel that they're having access issues, poorer quality hunting because

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Speaker 1: of the great deference to this now recovered, this now

532
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: recovered species that they feel is somehow not quite the

533
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: same because it was supplemented with genes from outside. Take

534
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: your pick on that one. Waiting, let's get it. That

535
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: was okay for it. Apology not an apology correction, No apologies.

536
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Another news bit. I were talking to these I met

537
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: this dude. So every year I go to, Yeah, every

538
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: year I go to I'm mceing this year the TRCP

539
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Capitol Conservation Awards Dinner, in which TRCP they have an

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00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: annual function in Washington, d C. Where they honor Typically

541
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: they honor someone from the House, someone from the Senate,

542
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: and someone from each side of the aisle, so Democrat

543
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: and Republican House Senate, they honor them for conservation achievements,

544
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: and then they'll usually honor someone from the private sector.

545
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: M seeing that event. I m sed last year and

546
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: met this dude who was working on his project, and

547
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I told him I helped spread the word about his project.

548
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: When Teddy Roosevelt was in DC, he would walk down

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00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: to the Grace Reformed Church in Washington and Washington, d C.

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00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: He laid the cornerstone of the church. Okay, in nineteen

551
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: oh three. That was the year that Augustus Scofier published

552
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: his magnum opus lagid q lanaire and I believe it

553
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: was the first year of controlled flight by the Wright brothers.

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00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, just check that out, Yohnnie. That

555
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: year he delivered an address at the dedication of the church.

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00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: He Teddy Roosevelt kind of the one of the one

557
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: of the fathers of modern conservation and a guy who

558
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: put in who preserved fifty thousand acres of American land

559
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: for every day that he was in office in the presidency,

560
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: worshiped there faithfully on Sundays during his vice presidency and presidency.

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00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: If he had to skip a service, he would write

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00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: a letter to the reverend of the church saying he

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: would be absent. Anyhow, the church is up for sale,

564
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: so what's gonna happen? Soone's gonna turn it into condos.

565
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: But these guys have got this thing, say if Teddy's

566
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: Church dot com and they're trying to get the jingle necessary,

567
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: they need to raise six million bucks over the next

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: two years so they can buy the building and resuscitate

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00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: it and keep it as it is www dot save

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00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Save Teddy's Church dot com. So if that speaks to

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00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you an honor of UM one of our great wildlife

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: conservation land conservation heroes, UM, go check that out. I

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00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna get into this. We're we're

574
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: having quite a laugh about golf courses because there's this

575
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: golf course that needs to like move because the squirrels

576
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: are so mean. Do you're about this? The squirrels are

577
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: so mean that it's like driving golfers off trade. Do

578
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: you golf? Uh? Yeah, a little bit? You do? Not good?

579
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm real bad, but yeah I golf a little

580
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: bit lately. It's mostly so I like I started in

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00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: Jackson County, Tennessee, and everybody there's a golf nine haul

582
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: golf course there, and like me and my buddies would

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: would golf barefoot and then like cut off t shirts

584
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: and stuff and bring a cooler bear. Yeah, redneck style golf.

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00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: That's the That was my introduction to golf. As I

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: got older and moved to cities, and I found out

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00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: that golf is like a fancy people game and they

588
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: got a bunch of like rules that they really really

589
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: care about. It kind of took a lot of the

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00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: fun out of it for me. I didn't enjoy it

591
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: as much anymore. So now I've got to like top

592
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: golf or something and just you know, drink some bears

593
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: and hit some or whatever. But yeah, I didn't like being,

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00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, repeatedly shushed or having to tuck a shirt

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00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: ban or whatever. That I've always been surprised at no

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00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: old professional golfer ever emerged who didn't have the same

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00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: like what informs the fashion sensibility of professional golfers. Like

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00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: with football, you have no choice because you got to

599
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: wear the uniform. But when you see them off field,

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: it's a wide spectrum of dress styles right wide spectrum. Yeah,

601
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: something about something with golf and forces like a very

602
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: rigid yeah, sense of how one presents themselves of the public.

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00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: I guess, like I said, it's just fancy people stuff.

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00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just the culture of golfer.

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00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's also because like the stuff they wear to

606
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: play it, you can also just wear Yeah, you can

607
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: just the course and you can't do that with shoulder pads.

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: You know. That's a good point. You look like, yeah.

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00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Uh So someone wrote in with a very spirited defense

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00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: of golf courses as ecological refuges. Great point, you can't.

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: It's better than having condos there. So he's pointing out,

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00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what else he's There's this picture.

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's a famous picture. There's a there's a

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00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: ecologist standing next to these cut banks and one is

615
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: like a crop of one is a annual okay picture

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00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: that you're standing next to a cutaway of a of

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00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: a field where you've got a raw cutaway that's eight

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00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: feet tall, like you just slice the earth, pulled it away,

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00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: and you got to look at a help me out.

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00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? A cutaway a soil

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Speaker 1: pit side view. There's a soil pit side view of

622
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: perennial grass, and there's a side of the root structure

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Speaker 1: of perennial grass, and a side view of an annual

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00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: grass or an annual crop. And holy cow, the like

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00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: a long standing grass, a long standing grassland eight feet

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00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: of room. Amazing, it's so amazing to see this. What

627
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: it like the He has a very spirited defense, And

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00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I'll point out, I don't like you know, I get

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Speaker 1: what he's saying. Man, they got ponds. He counted up

630
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Speaker 1: how many white oaks around their place. It's a really

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00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: good point. Let's just read the whole damn thing. Should I.

632
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna move an entire golf course because of

633
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: main squirrels. Rules are too mean. There's some main squirrels,

634
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: well that's small feet or or it's some yeah, yeah, tire.

635
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: They squirrels like a noise in my backswine, chittering in

636
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: my backswine. Can It's like they attack the golfers to

637
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: get their snacks. Right, that's aggressive. Let's read it. For instance,

638
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: I work at a small private club near large city

639
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: with a heavy population of fox squirrels. He points out.

640
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: He points out, I'm quoting him, But I'm okay, He

641
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: points out that, back to the quote, they aren't nearly

642
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: as aggressive maybe as the ones down in Florida, but

643
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: we do manage them every winter. Then he goes on

644
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: to say, um, they've managed the squirrels, but their numbers

645
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: continually bounce back with the copious amount of acorns provided

646
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: by the three hundred plus mature white oak trees. The

647
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: property in general has a lot of wildlife for how

648
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: small a property it is and how it's completely surrounded

649
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: by urban civilization. We have mink, kyotes, red fox, whitetail, deer, skunks, raccoons,

650
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: all sorts of rafters, including bald eagles, waterfowl, and a

651
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: whole mess of other rodents that are all over the place.

652
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Many golf course has become a part of the Audubon

653
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Society and our safe havens for many species of birds.

654
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: For that, your pipe smaller, he goes on credit him,

655
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: are not like email friends. Yeah, here's why I'm very

656
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: delicate about I can't get you know, the secret of

657
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: why I do really need to tiptoe around the golf

658
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: ish You don't you? I don't think so, Spencer. Well,

659
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: it's I'll tell you later. Okay, really, Oh yeah, you

660
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think do I know? Oh? You know?

661
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin just the last I we're gonna talk about. I

662
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: told you we had two and you can cut as

663
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I do. No, no no know. Wisconsin is circulating a build

664
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: to designate an official state rifle, the Henry Arms all

665
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Weather forty five seventy lever action. They point out in

666
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: the build that this does not mean you have to

667
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: buy one, though it is strongly encouraged. Yeah, you will

668
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: not get in trouble for not buying one until they are.

669
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: I just love to we gotta have Dug. I want

670
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: to hear what Bubbly Doug thinks about his state. If like,

671
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: in my view, I get it because they MANU it's

672
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: great because they manufacture him there, um, big Boy all

673
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: Weather rifle. Um, it's so it's a hometown manufacturer in Wisconsin.

674
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: It's a great rifle. But if you said to me, like,

675
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: what's the what's the state rifle of Wisconsin? Well, who

676
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: used to make that? That that slide action thirty OT six,

677
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I think it'd be something like that, like an old

678
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: like yeah, like seven forty two would master? Yeah, like

679
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: one of those like hardcore. You know old deer guns

680
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: everybody had, you know, like a like a something in

681
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: thirty OT six. Right, That's what I was gonna say.

682
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that hunted or killed a deer

683
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: with the Henry old Weather forty five seventy. But it's

684
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: made the Rice Lake based Henry repeating arms. So they

685
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: make and it's a nod toward the you know, hometown

686
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: gun manufacturers. So if you live in Wisconsin and you

687
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: don't have one, you can expect visit from law enforcement officials.

688
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Traded you like, learn about all these different old guns

689
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: in your riflery class or shoot them now. Now it

690
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: was mostly just like just target practice. Yeah, pretty much

691
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: just was like a twenty two. We didn't like history

692
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: of rifle or anything, although that would have been cool.

693
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm horrifically uh underinformed. They join they're joining nine other

694
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: states who have state rifles. Oh man, that's a whole

695
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: other thing. Okay, we'll talk about the Kansas Trail campan later.

696
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I've told you didn't want to have more step and

697
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Burning Man um an hour later. How

698
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: do you do you go to Burning Man? Now? But

699
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: one of my best friends just did this past year.

700
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: It might it sound pretty wild. It gives us license

701
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: to get into this. I want to. I'm interested in

702
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: how you're ranking the remaining topics as to the ones

703
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: that will that you're interested in talking because I got

704
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot to say about Wisconsin's public or Kansas's public

705
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: land trail camp. I don't have a lot to say

706
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: about and trash. Basically, when you go to Burning Man,

707
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: it's a is he defending Burnie Man. I don't think

708
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: it's just kind of how clean they make it exactly. Okay,

709
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: he's explained just how clean it is after Burning Man.

710
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: He was a volunteer there for the Volunteer Fire depart

711
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: He volunteer at the fire department during the Burning Man thing.

712
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: They cleaned it so good. The festival has the undergoing

713
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: extensive cleaning procedure where they cleaned the entire seven square

714
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: miles of m oops moop matter, matter out of place,

715
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: which he said ranges from straw glow sticks to nipple pasties.

716
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: All right, what's a nipple paste picture that you had

717
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: a little sticker you put over your nipple. That's it.

718
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Whole decoration you got it? Yeah, clothing like it's like

719
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: not the same as being fully. You don't want to go,

720
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: you don't want to have any clothes on you exactly.

721
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: It's like one step there's body paint, right, but that

722
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's a hard Yeah, that's a time investment.

723
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't leave a lot to the imagination. Then they

724
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: do this. This is this is where this gets interesting. Here,

725
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: this is what the BLM make. Here's what the BLM

726
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: does to determine just how clean the site is. This

727
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: is where this is. This is where this gets downright

728
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: scientific Bureau Land Management. They randomly select one hundred and

729
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty inspection sites, with each site being a circle with

730
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: a radius of thirty seven point seven feet. Got it,

731
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm tracking one hundred and twenty times. You take a

732
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: circle about thirty eight feet radius, lay it down, and

733
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: then you have to inspect that circle. But now it

734
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: sounded so scientific until I got to this part. We're

735
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: less than a palmful. Then it devolve, It devolves out

736
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: of science, It devolves out of science land and goes

737
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: and do less than a palm for less nipple pasties

738
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: can be fined within that circle. If you find more

739
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: than a palmful, Yeah, you clean. If you've ever hunted

740
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: or hiked, backpack camped in this location outside of burning

741
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: man right in and tell us how clean it was.

742
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. Yeah, no, when I when I

743
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: first so, I'm from Tennessee and I went to Bonarou

744
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, you know, big music festival.

745
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: I went to like five of those in a row.

746
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: And when I first have I found out about burning

747
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: my end. I was like, okay, so, like what kind

748
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: of bands are there or whatever? And I was like, oh,

749
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: well they're not there's no lineup or whatever. And from

750
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, I was like, so

751
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: what is the point of it then? And it's like

752
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: an art festival, Like people go there and make like

753
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: art installations, do a bunch of drugs and get wild

754
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then burn a fffig at the end

755
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: of it, and that's pretty much the whole thing. But

756
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: like those festivals are a marathon. You're filthy, you're tired,

757
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's like gross. And if I'm not gonna

758
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: be able to watch like Jay Z and Bruce Springstein,

759
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, and back to back nights, then like I

760
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: got no interest in that, and I wouldn't even do

761
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: the former and in my thirties, you know what I mean. Like,

762
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: but in my twenties I was all for it, but

763
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: I never really got Burning Man and I still don't.

764
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: And now it's a bunch of like tech bros and stuff.

765
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I think on top of that, oh is it? I

766
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: think so they've like overtaken It's what I heard. So

767
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: now everybody goes to Burning Man talks about how it's

768
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: not the same as it was absolutely, just like with

769
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: everything Nuther's Montana or Baha, yeah, bonarys same way. Um,

770
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: where'd you grow up exactly? Clay County, Tennessee. It's uh,

771
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee is divided into East, Middle, and West Tennessee.

772
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: It's on the northeast part, like northeast border of Middle Tennessee.

773
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: So it's like halfway between Nashville and Knoxville and forty

774
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: miles up on the Kentucky line. What were the what

775
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: were the conditions like when you grew up there? When

776
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I was like a little kid, like up until I

777
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: was like nine, it was a pretty idyllic and cozy

778
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: little southern town. I felt like, like a nice little

779
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: town and like just using my so there was this

780
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: big textile factory. Oshkosh, bagosh, my overalls, kiss and stuff

781
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: ocos bagosh. They had a huge factory in Salina, and

782
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: that was like the beating heart of the town's e

783
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: common everybody's My great grandma worked there for sixty years

784
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, that all the kids. Like, if you

785
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: were a kid from Sliea at that time, I pretty

786
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: much guarantee you had like a photo shoot, like a

787
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: toddler photo shoot that was all oshkosh bagosh, right, like

788
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, sitting in a little wooden bucket with some

789
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: overalls on in a little yeah, right exactly. Why don't

790
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: you guys do the side buttons up? Uh, leaping, flopping?

791
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: It depends, you know, a little bit of both, switch

792
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: it up, and people would do both, yeah exactly. But

793
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: and then in my family in particular, like was a

794
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: bunch of small business owners. Grandpa had a car lot

795
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: in a garage, right, we worked on cars and sold

796
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: them and stuff. And my dad had the town's video store,

797
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Crowder's Video Remember those. Yeah, really dug deep for that

798
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: name because you have the little back corner with a curtain.

799
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it wasn't the curtain, it was a room.

800
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: He was a converted single wide trailer in the back

801
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: room I was forbade to enter, and that's where you know,

802
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: all the boxes were a little bit bigger in size,

803
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: and you know, like you know, somebody from the Baptist church,

804
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, couldn't go in there if there was anybody

805
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: else in the store. Like that was the thing that

806
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: would happen a lot, like people that that back room

807
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: kept the lights on in that grocery. And then that

808
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: video store you get a double wide. There was a

809
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: video store. Yeah, yeah, and uh Crowder's Video, Crowder's Video,

810
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: and that market just dried up. Yeah, as you'll see

811
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: in a minute. As you'll see in a minute, every

812
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: by town we didn't even get to that point. But anyway, Uh,

813
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: on the town square, my maternal grandmother had a little

814
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: country diner called Cat's Cafe, And across the square, my

815
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: openly gay uncle and his partner had a Delhi called

816
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: the New Day Delhi, a sandwich place or whatever. And Uh,

817
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: all these businesses are doing, and the whole town or

818
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: the whole downtown's populated by these little businesses and stuff,

819
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: and everything's cool. Then in the mid nineties, as I

820
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: like to put it, the factory left forever and the

821
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: pills showed up for good at the same time, the

822
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: factory being oshkosh, they left. They went to Mexico, like

823
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: literally that that, you know, they moved to that operation

824
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: to Mexico, just packed it up and moved it. Yeah,

825
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: and that was that, Like some of the was that

826
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: some of the NAFTA. Absolutely, And that's got a huge

827
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: it's a huge part of people. There's politics, you know,

828
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: actually that town is rural and every and like redneck

829
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. You can look it up. For

830
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: a very long time, that county was like a blue

831
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: county in Tennessee because it was like old school didn't

832
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: work in Man Democrats or whatever that type of thing.

833
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: But then NAFTA, the Clinton's factory leaves, town gets demolished

834
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: and it changes a lot, but nothing ever came into

835
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: a place that factory. Really. You know, by the time

836
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: I graduated high school, all my family's businesses are closed.

837
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: You know, my mom is as addicted to pills herself.

838
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, people are sick. Everything just falls apart, and like,

839
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: feel I want to back up to that that place leaving,

840
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Like how was that perceived by people? Did it feel

841
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: like a betrayal? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean I remember.

842
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, I was like nine or ten,

843
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: but I can remember my parents, my grandparents like talking

844
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: about it and stuff. I mean I can. I have

845
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: a vivid memory of my grandpa that owned the car

846
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: lot coming into my dad's video store and slamming like

847
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: a newspaper or something down on the counter and saying,

848
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'll never vote for another Democrat

849
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: as long as I live because of that. And like, yeah,

850
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a company town, you know

851
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I said, everybody worked there and

852
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: or like had somebody in their family that worked there.

853
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: And like all the other businesses, like you know, people

854
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: that work they are bought lunch at these restaurants or

855
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: whatever that type of thing. It all, it all orbited

856
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: around that plant. And yeah, I mean people knew. I

857
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: mean even as a kid, like I knew, like everybody

858
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: knew this is really bad what's about to happen. And

859
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: there was some optimism like well we can replace it

860
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: with something or whatever. But I mean that you know,

861
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: that's twenty five years ago, going on thirty years ago,

862
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: and that you know, there's like a couple minor operations

863
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: have come in and left and whatever else, but nothing

864
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: has really ever replaced it. So it's been there's been

865
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: like double digit level. I mean, I don't know right now,

866
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: but I know for over a decade there was double

867
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: digit levels of unemployment. It was like, you know, one

868
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: of the poorest counties in Tennessee for like years and

869
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: years straight because of them that killed the video store.

870
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So I said, like, right, obviously the video

871
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: store wouldn't have made it a long term anyway, but

872
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: we didn't know that. You know, we didn't see the

873
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: future coming. But it didn't matter because that killed the

874
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: video store. My uncle's Delhi, the my grandma's cafe is

875
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: like that's still a restaurant on the square, but like

876
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: it got rough and she was old and so that

877
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: drove her out of it, and so you know, pretty

878
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: much just ended everything. Yeah, it was pretty rough. So

879
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: I understand why those people like in that place. I

880
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: get why, you know, they don't trust politicians, Democrats in particular,

881
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. And I also get why

882
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: that county went so heavily for Trump in twenty sixteens,

883
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: because you know, he was telling them, he was speaking

884
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: directly to that type of stuff and nobody else does

885
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: because nobody cares about those people. And like Republicans Democrats both,

886
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: no one cares about those people poor like rural people

887
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: like they just don't. I mean I do because that's

888
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: where I'm from, but like you know, and so to

889
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: have anybody even paying them any attention at all, I

890
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: think was like attractive, you know, ye in a desperation way.

891
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: Part of the reason I think we're talking about this earlier,

892
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: when we're talking about getting you on Yani, you found

893
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: your stuff and turned me onto it, and uh we

894
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: had we had a laugh watching it. And what initiated

895
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: that was. It's not I'm not the first person to

896
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: make this observation by any stretch, but it was like

897
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about, uh, the last thing that will be

898
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: left that the whole country agrees. It's totally fine to

899
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: ridicule and insult, Yeah, is poor white Southerners. I think

900
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: you can always be No one will ever be like, well,

901
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: don't you do that. I was making like jokes about

902
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: that in stand up when I started thirteen years ago,

903
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: and it's still because even then, uh, it was already starting,

904
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: and I would I mean, I mean, who else is

905
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: there right now? Do you know what I mean? Like

906
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: you said, like you said, oh, we'll get to that

907
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: point eventually, but I mean, who else is? Yeah? Right?

908
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: Pretty right? Like you can't name another group of people

909
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: that it's okay to make fun of. No, But also,

910
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: like I'm as a comedian, I'm kind of totally okay

911
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: with that. As long as people will allow me, as

912
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: a you know, formally poor white Southerner to also make

913
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: fun of other types of white people, then I'm good

914
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: with that trade off. Do you know what I mean?

915
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Any kind of any kind of white person should be

916
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: fair game, I think for me, because you know we're

917
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: gonna catch it too. I used to like, and I

918
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know what the real answer is, but I used

919
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: to jokingly say that I thought that was because all

920
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: these other groups of people, gradually over the years each

921
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: stood up and we're like, that's not okay, you shouldn't

922
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: talk about us like that, right. But Rednecks were never

923
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna do that because that would imply that they, you know,

924
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: give a damn what somebody else thinks. It would put

925
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: Marry the Cable Guy and Jeff Fox were the out

926
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 1: of business. It's just like you know, like the world

927
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: tells them's like, hey, they're talking shit about you. Who

928
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: is everybody? I'll tell everybody to kiss my ass and

929
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: then that's the end of it, you know. Like, but

930
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: I find it the southerns have a huge ship on

931
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: their shoulder about pretty much the whole rest of the country,

932
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: like looking down on him earlier. Think y'all were talking

933
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: earlier off mix about somebody else you work with, who Clay. Yeah,

934
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: there's like the South and then there's like devil Country Clay.

935
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I've been dogging on our colleague Clay a lot because

936
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: he was recently he was pitching this idea that he

937
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and he had an email where he

938
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: pointed out that he pointed out that in Southern culture,

939
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, music is very important. Yeah, And I said,

940
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: have you been to a lot of areas in America

941
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: where you found music to be unimportant? Right? Have you

942
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: found it to be unimportant in the North? And then

943
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: I sent Then I started looking up musicians per capita,

944
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 1: and um I pointed out to him that the most

945
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: musicians per capita and Beverly Hills, Right, So I think

946
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: it'd be fair to say that in global culture, music

947
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: is very important. Well, yeah, and yeah he sees he

948
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: sees like he'd be like, I mean, I'm storytelling is

949
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: very important in the South. Well, look, I mean a

950
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of Listen, Clay's not even here, but I'm about

951
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: to go to bat for him. I think a lot

952
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: of them. I think a lot of the like of

953
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: American music, like you know, has its roots originally in

954
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: the South, and a lot of That's my buddy pointed

955
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: out when I was dogging on Clay about this. He

956
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: pointed out that like if you sort of do a

957
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: music family tree, right, you wind up like like Southern

958
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: blues winds up being like the trunk of the tree,

959
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: is what he's getting. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't.

960
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe Clean knows at We'll have

961
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: to get mine talked to him about this. But now

962
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: they are, Yeah, they're musical paper like the most rednecked

963
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: part of my county it's called pe Ridge, right, And

964
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: it's also the part where like what they're known for

965
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: is like they all can just sing like angels, like

966
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, everybody out there something in the water

967
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: just yeah, like it's like, oh they're red as hell,

968
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: but got pipes. Did you guys mess around outside a

969
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: lot with your kids. Yeah, I'm kind of doing a

970
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: bit about that right now. Like I I've got I've

971
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: got two sons or ten eleven, And I think about

972
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: when I was at age, like I would me and

973
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: my little sisters three years younger than me, Like we'd

974
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: leave in the morning and just you know, be gone.

975
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean literally all day, you know what I mean,

976
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: and like obviously no cell phones, I'll checking in or something,

977
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: just out like you know, playing in the creek, trying

978
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: to catch crawl daddies or whatever, you know, climbing into

979
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: old storm drains, just kids stuff, you know, but like

980
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: climbing up the pile the piles of scrap material behind

981
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: the abandoned factory, you know, fun stuff like that. But

982
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, I men't. But today I'm you know,

983
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm not like I went, and I live in California,

984
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: live in Burbank, California, you know, which is very suburban,

985
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: but it's still a city. But I'm just not, like,

986
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm mortified at the prospect of that. Like

987
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: unless I had some way to like track them or whatever,

988
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't want them out there just running around all day.

989
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: But that's what we did. Yeah, we would, I mean yeah,

990
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: all day long in the summertime and stuff would be

991
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: just playing outside. And then uh, when I got older,

992
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: like in high school and everything. I was never a

993
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: big hunter but me and my buddy. The only thing

994
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: of note in Clay County, Tennessee is a man made

995
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: lake called Dale Hollow Lake, which for a long time

996
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: not anymore. Unfortunately that that also left with the factory.

997
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: We were the we were the home of the world

998
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: record smallmouth bass. They did the world even took the

999
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: bass away from us. Yeah, the bass record world record. Yeah,

1000
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: that was on the sign coming welcome to Slige at

1001
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: home of the world record smallmouth bass. But like part

1002
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: of the local lore was always, and I don't know

1003
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: the truth of it, but part of the local lore

1004
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: was always there's always these rumors and stuff that the

1005
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: dude that it that it had been weighted down with

1006
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: like nuts and bolts and stuff, and that yeah, that

1007
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: would never happened. Yeah, And so it was always like

1008
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's like the town was divided amongst you know,

1009
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: whether it was legit or not. But anyway, so like

1010
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: summertime at the every day exactly, Yeah, stolen bass violer,

1011
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: but like, uh, now, I don't know off the top

1012
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: of my head. Hey, everyone fill here with a quick note.

1013
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Immediately after the show, Trade had some research and found

1014
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: out that Selena and Dale hollow Lake still hold the

1015
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: record for the smallmouth bass. According to him, he quote

1016
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: assumed the universe had taken that from us as well.

1017
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: My bad, Thanks Trey, and back to the show. Can

1018
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: I tell you a quick story? Yeah? Please? It has

1019
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: to do with the South kind of um. There's a

1020
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: song by Hank Williams Junior and Whale and Jennings called

1021
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: The Conversation, and in it they discuss Hank Williams Junior's mother, Aubrey,

1022
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: and first off trying to get Hanklingas Junior to come

1023
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: on the podcast. So if you're out there listening, my man,

1024
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: please uh. Anyways, like Hank Williams and Hank Williams Junior's mom,

1025
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: Aubrey got a divorce or not, and then he got

1026
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: remarried right before he died. This all happened really fast.

1027
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: He died young and unexpectedly. Once he died. Once he died,

1028
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: there became a legal battle over who was able to

1029
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: call themselves Hank Williams's widow because he hadn't done the

1030
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: legal separation prior to getting remarried, and then he died

1031
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: or after he get remarried. So in the end it

1032
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: was settled that Aubrey, Hank Williams Junior's mother became officially

1033
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: Hank William's widow, and in a settlement, this other woman

1034
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: had to stop saying that, and Okay, Aubrey was the

1035
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: first one or their Sorry, his first wife was Aubrey

1036
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: who he had been separated from but didn't get supposed

1037
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: to do like sixty days. I mean, I think he's

1038
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be separated sixty days before he'd be legally divorced. Well,

1039
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: it turns out he had only done fifty days of

1040
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: separation or something like that and then got married. Yeah.

1041
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: Then he dies and so they're like, you're that marriage.

1042
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 1: That's not actually his widow because he didn't legally get divorced. Yeah,

1043
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: so I get to be the widow. I'm pretty sure

1044
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: that my mama is still technically married to my step

1045
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: dad despite the fact that they haven't been together in

1046
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: twenty something years. They haven't done it. They just didn't

1047
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: do it. They never did it, never got around to that.

1048
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: You know, what's a whole thing you still keep you

1049
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: still keep in touch with your parents. Well, my dad

1050
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: passed away ten years ago pancreatic cancer. But he was

1051
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier my mom getting you know, addicted to

1052
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: drugs and stuff when I was younger. So my dad

1053
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: most mostly raised us. And my dad was great, super

1054
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: close to my dad, but he was not really an outdoorsman.

1055
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: He was more into like rock and roll and movies,

1056
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: Dave and Lynch movies and stuff like that, you know,

1057
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: but I do still his video store would be in

1058
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: a David Lynch movie, right. Yeah, he would have been

1059
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: so flattered to hear you say that. They're so thrilled

1060
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: to hear that someone interpreted it that way. He would

1061
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: love that. But but yeah, but my mom, you know,

1062
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: she's still kicking and we're like, you know, we're reconciled

1063
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. Now I wouldn't say we're super close, but

1064
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: we you know, I do keep in touch. I say,

1065
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: here at the holidays and stuff like that. Do you

1066
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: understand what you do mean? Like it? She does. She

1067
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: loves it. She loves like the attention and stuff like

1068
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: and actually she I gotta give her credit, like she

1069
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: is cool about all that. Like I had one of

1070
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: my early jokes that I had was like talking about

1071
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: where I'm from and how redneck it is or whatever,

1072
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: and I, you know, and I'd be like, yeah, you know,

1073
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: I love football and I hate shirt sleeves and whatever. Yeah,

1074
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't all this ship. And at the end, I'd

1075
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: be like, and my mama, y'all, my mama cooks the

1076
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: best crystal meth you ever had in your life, right,

1077
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: And like, uh, she heard me do that, and she

1078
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: sent me a text message. It was like, she's like, honey,

1079
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: I did not cook math right space, I sold pills.

1080
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: It's different, it's not the same thing. I was like,

1081
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: I know, Mama, but I can't you you know, it

1082
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't work with cooked Joe, Like you gotta talk about

1083
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: your home cooking. I can't use pills, you know, taking

1084
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: some artistic license. Give me a break. But she's she's

1085
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: pretty cool about it all. So what was it that

1086
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: when you when you left, was it like in the movies,

1087
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you um, you know, left with your

1088
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: thumb out and got on a hitch hiked out of

1089
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: town and never turned back. Not quite, but kind of.

1090
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: And also the other thing was I was always like

1091
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: the smart kid in my class, which is like, you know,

1092
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: bars not all that high. It's like's not crazy impressive

1093
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: being the smart kid in this particular school. But I

1094
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: didn't know that I had no for of reference. So

1095
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: like by the time I graduated high school or whatever,

1096
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: like I literally thought I was like redneck Goodwill Hunting,

1097
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, like literally because you know, he had a

1098
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: rough childhood. He's a super genius and the end of

1099
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: that movie's him just hitting the road never to return, right.

1100
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: I was like I thought to do with it? Yeah,

1101
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: I thought I was Matt Damon in that movie. And

1102
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of my twenties was having to reconciled with

1103
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: the fact that I am not, you know, that brilliant

1104
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: the way that I thought I was, you know, but

1105
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was kind of like that. And my

1106
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: dad also it was very much like that's part of

1107
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: like an another thing I've always regretted. I mentioned my

1108
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: grandpa had a car lot he before I was born,

1109
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: like before my time. He built and raced stock cars

1110
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: on like the dirt track circuit in the South. He

1111
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: had his whole basement was full of trophies and pictures

1112
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: all his like stock car pass and stuff, and he

1113
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: was like a gear head, you know, Like my dad

1114
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: was real into music. But I never I noticed my

1115
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: grandpa never listened to music. And I was sitting with

1116
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: one and this like seventy nine Chevy pickup he had,

1117
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: right and We're sitting there and I'm probably twelve, and

1118
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Pap, why don't why don't you

1119
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: ever listen to any music? And he just looks at

1120
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: me and just revs the engine up real alb bro

1121
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: and he goes, that's the only music of man needs

1122
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: son and uh so like but anyway, but he had

1123
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: the His outlook on me was like, you're gonna go

1124
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: to college. You know, You're like you're the you're gonna

1125
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: the first one of the family go to You're gonna

1126
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: go to college and get You're gonna you're gonna be

1127
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: a doctor or a lawyer. You're gonna work at some

1128
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of office. You're not gonna be covered in grease

1129
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: every day. Like you're not gonna you know what I mean.

1130
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Like he wanted that kind of future for me, but

1131
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: I wish I'd to take him more of an initiative

1132
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: to like, you know, learn that kind of thing from him,

1133
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: but he never offered and I never asked learned how

1134
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: to wrench on cars all that stuff. Yeah, and I mean,

1135
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'll like, um, like I'll do little stuff

1136
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: like the tires or breakpads whatever I put alternators, and

1137
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: it's always just like YouTube and a manual. You know,

1138
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: you can't figure it out. It's not that bad. But

1139
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: like he just knew. He was just one of those

1140
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: guys you know, knew everything about engines and stuff. It

1141
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: probably would have changed, I guess, because you know, as cars,

1142
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: like modern day cars with the computers and all that

1143
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: stuff in him, that probably would have confounded him a

1144
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: little bit. But like the old school rides, who you

1145
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: know topped to bottom. I can't remember why even brought

1146
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: that up. I don't know. We're talking about your family

1147
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: and growing up. I know where he's coming from, man,

1148
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: because um, thinking back to when you could climb in

1149
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: I remember like working on working on pickups when you're

1150
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: in high school, you would open the hood and sit

1151
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: on the front wheel. Well you'd be like sitting side

1152
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: there right, yeah, and everything's just laid out like, well,

1153
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: there's the starter, there's this, there's that. You know, it's

1154
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: just so simple and now, dude, it's like intimidating man

1155
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: wrenched on any kind of thing. Dude, when you left,

1156
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: you went to college obviously. Oh right, yeah, well so

1157
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: that's the thing again. Act like I'm good Will hunting

1158
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: and he was going across the country. I went forty

1159
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: miles up the road to Cookville, Tennessee, which is also

1160
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: a small town, but to me, it was like the

1161
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: major metropolitan area of Cookville, Tennessee, you know what I mean.

1162
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: Like Cookville was the town where if you're from Salina,

1163
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: that's where you go to get like school closed, if

1164
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: you're going to go to the movies, or if it's

1165
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: somebody's birthday, so you go to Red Lobster for a

1166
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: fancy dinner, you know. Like that's what Cookville was. And

1167
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: I also have a cow college there, Tennessee Tech University,

1168
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: which is where I ended up going. And I mean

1169
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: I loved it at a great time. But yeah, I

1170
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: didn't go all that far away. But I already knew

1171
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: that I wanted to do comedy, did yeah, Because well,

1172
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: like I said, so, I grew up in my dad's

1173
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: video store, so like I always wanted to do something

1174
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: in show business like movies or whatever. And then when

1175
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: I was twelve, and I told this story a lot,

1176
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,879
Speaker 1: but it's how I remember it. When I was twelve,

1177
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: me and my dad together watched Chris Rock, Bigger and

1178
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: Blacker when it aired on HBO, like we watched it live,

1179
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: and that's the Chris Rock special where he does this

1180
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: whole bit about dads how nobody appreciates dads. It's always mama,

1181
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: this MoMA that daddy don't get no credit. All daddy

1182
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: gets is the big piece of chicken, right that bit.

1183
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: And my dad's just like losing his mind watching is

1184
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: and he's just dying. And that was the first time

1185
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: that I was like that in particular. Seems like it

1186
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: would be cool, right, but again, I'm a kid. I'm

1187
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere whatever. I started keeping notes

1188
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: like for possible, like stand up bits and stuff like that.

1189
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: And I wanted to go to college. I wanted to

1190
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: get a Greek because I would have been the first

1191
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: of my family to do it. I wanted to do

1192
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: that either way. But I then knew I was going

1193
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: to start comedy wherever I ended up after college. So

1194
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: because I knew that in college, I got an MBA,

1195
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: not because I have any interest in business, but just

1196
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: because I thought it would give me the best shot

1197
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: at getting some kind of job where I could like

1198
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: pay the bills and not have to do any that

1199
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: starving artist bullshit, Like I had no interest in that

1200
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: type of thing, you know what I mean. I'd been

1201
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: pouring weighted tables enough, like get a good job while

1202
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: I was moonlighting as a comic, and so that's why

1203
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: I got it. And then that's exactly what happened. I

1204
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: got a job working for the US Department of Energy

1205
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: in Oakridge, Tennessee. Moved there, started stand up in Knoxville

1206
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: doing what for the Department of Energy. I was a

1207
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: contracting officer, so like uh, contract specialist eventually and then

1208
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: a contracting officer. So like the federal government doesn't they

1209
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: don't really do much of anything themselves. Anything they do

1210
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: they contract out to like private, private industry. Statement. Well no,

1211
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean they just you know, they they have contractors

1212
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: for everything, you know, like a federal employee. It's rare

1213
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: that they'll you know, do any of the like you know,

1214
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: brunt of the work or whatever. There's a contractor or

1215
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: a subcontractor or whatever. Well, so I I had like

1216
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: a warrant they call it, and I was like I

1217
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: awarded and administered those contracts on behalf of the government, right, So,

1218
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: like I worked with the contractors and you know, made

1219
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: sure they were following the rules, made sure they were

1220
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do, you know, and then

1221
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: they got paid and all that type of stuff. Competition

1222
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: was a big part of doing a request for proposals,

1223
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: and companies submit proposals and you have to put a

1224
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: board together and pick the company you're gonna Some of

1225
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: these contracts are you know huge, Ye, I'd make a

1226
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of money on kickbacks. No, I never got to

1227
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: that point. It would have been pretty sweet though, because yeah,

1228
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: you know that was going on. We'd have ethics classes

1229
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: and stuff where they'd tell us, you know, stories of

1230
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: people who have been caught, you know, like don't do that.

1231
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: But I'm sure people were still doing it. But I

1232
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: mean there was other little stuff like somebody's son in

1233
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: law company would get a maintenance contract, you know what

1234
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean. There was still some like good old boy

1235
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: type stuff that would go on there. But like, but

1236
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: the big dollar contracts, they were like heavily scrutinized, and

1237
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: had to be you know, competed in all that stuff.

1238
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: So but it was just a I had a top

1239
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: secret security clearance and all that. But like one of

1240
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: my contracts was the uranium processing facility, so like the

1241
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: nuclear weapon were they enrich the uranium you know that

1242
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: goes in our nuclear weapons? Uh? And so I I

1243
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: would go to all these meetings that were like top

1244
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: secret and heavily like heavy security phones outside all this stuff,

1245
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: like very very high level of security. But it's my

1246
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: ran trying to listen to the water. But like I could,

1247
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: like you could have waterboarded me all damn day and

1248
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't been able to tell you any of it

1249
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: because it because like it just feel like no, I

1250
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: really like I really don't know because it's all like

1251
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: it's all science and shit. You know, it's like it

1252
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: it goes over your head. So if you're like me anyway,

1253
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: So I was in those meetings and stuff, but I,

1254
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't understand them. They were highly technical

1255
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: in nature, and sometimes people would think that it's a

1256
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, like it sounds like a kind of cool job,

1257
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: but it was just an office job really, you know,

1258
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of office spacey in a lot of ways.

1259
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: When you knew that you wanted to do comedy when

1260
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: you were young, did you how did you perceive what

1261
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: it was you were growing up around I d're saying,

1262
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting at I mean maybe, do you mean like

1263
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: meaning that until you I didn't fully understand where I

1264
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: grew up until I went somewhere else. Yeah, for sure.

1265
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know about UM until I was in

1266
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: graduate school. I didn't know I'd never met Ivy League kids,

1267
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: yeah right, I didn't know about any coffee besides gas

1268
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: station coffee. Yeah yeah, right, like all that shit, and

1269
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: then you go like, oh, oh, I know, yeah that

1270
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: was weird. I got a few growing up I've had.

1271
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: I've had stand up bits based on that premise too,

1272
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: because I went through a very similar thing. I knew.

1273
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned Dalhalla Lake in the summertime, tourists from like

1274
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: Big Ten country, like Ohio and Michigan, you know, your

1275
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: neck of the woods that I just called it that

1276
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: it's just like a reference point. I don't know, so yeah, right,

1277
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: they have really good sports teams at the college, but uh,

1278
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: people from up there, like the Midwest, the north northern

1279
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: Midwest that would like to us that was just the North,

1280
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: like you know Yankees. Yankees would come down Animal's Country. Yeah,

1281
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: Devil's Country, right, but of course, you know that's the thing.

1282
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: Devil's Country is just you got the South and then

1283
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: there's Devil's Country because California is like the devilist of

1284
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: Devil's Country and it's not in the North. But they're

1285
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: like honorary Yankees in California. But anyway, uh, anyway, they

1286
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: would come down there and like go out on a

1287
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: houseboats stuff. They'd come to the lake in the summertime

1288
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: and it's like a huge reservoir. Oh yeah, it's a

1289
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: it's a big lake. It's also I was always told

1290
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: that it was one of the cleanest lakes in the

1291
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: country and all this stuff, and it's uh, I mean,

1292
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: I think Delhalla Lake is awesome, like unimpeachable, uh to me. Yeah,

1293
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: And uh so people come out there going on a

1294
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: houseboats and stuff like that. Um so because of that,

1295
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: we were I think it's like in any place where

1296
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: they're a tourist, the locals were very aware. Like we

1297
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: all thought that the tourists, you know, thought we were

1298
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: all idiots, right, like the local yokels. You know what

1299
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean like they like we were the like we

1300
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: thought they thought they were better than everybody else or

1301
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: whatever else. And what's funny is in retrospect, these are

1302
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: like very middle class Midwestern people. These are like, you know,

1303
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: this guy's like probably an electrician or something, an electrician

1304
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: from Iowa, and we're like, look at this fancy playing

1305
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: a sum a bit. They couldn't afford the driving exactly, yeah,

1306
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: but we didn't know. You feel like you're like you're

1307
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: like townies at Martha's Vineyard or something, right, yeah exactly,

1308
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: but like, uh, there's just a And also it's just

1309
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: a universal thing in the South. I don't whether you're

1310
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: in a like toown or not. Like you're just aware

1311
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: that everybody else thinks you're dumb, Like that's the thing

1312
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: you think, like the accent makes you dumb and all

1313
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: this stuff. And again I was a smart kid in

1314
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: my class. I thought I was like smart on a

1315
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: global scale. So like I took that very personally, like

1316
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: they used to really piss me off, right, I was like,

1317
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, no that you know, I'm I'm as smart

1318
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: as anything. Sons of bitches, you know that don't matter

1319
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: how I talk, you know, how do you become aware

1320
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: of it though, like at the age of twelve, Like,

1321
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: what has taught you that the rest of the world

1322
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: thinks that you're not as smart as they are? Like

1323
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: are your parents just telling you this? Yeah, people just

1324
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: talk about it and again but again especially that's why

1325
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: I brought up the tourists, just because that just that

1326
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: was just a general like consensus or the way it was.

1327
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean is that like the tourists

1328
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: or up at the assholes. You know, I think we're

1329
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 1: all dumb. And it's like you just know that from

1330
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: a very early age, right, but um, but anyway, so

1331
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: I was aware of that, right, But there was a

1332
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff. So I knew the South was

1333
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't know that my town was different

1334
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: from other places in the South, like other cities or

1335
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: other places that are not economically devastated or whatnot. Like

1336
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: I didn't you were the bottom, Yes, And I didn't

1337
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: know that. And so like I get and I used

1338
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: to this bit like when I was in college or again,

1339
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: I started dating this girl who I considered to be

1340
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: a rich girl, but literally her dad owned an auto

1341
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: body shop outside of Nashville. Right, But like I was

1342
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: in the bathroom getting ready for a first date, like

1343
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: here's you want chance, fancy? Don't let me damn, you know,

1344
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: like I thought, this is my ticket, you know. And

1345
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: uh like when I went to her house for for

1346
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: Christmas or whatever, you know, I'm in the kitchen like,

1347
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: why's all y'all's plates the same? You know, that's weird,

1348
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, had glass tupperware. I was like, as I

1349
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: live and breathe, you know, like, uh, blew my mind.

1350
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: I was like, and I had a few moments like that.

1351
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm white trash, you know.

1352
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: But because I didn't know that until later. I remember

1353
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: being with a bunch of college friends. They're all kind

1354
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: of you know, middle class would again rich to me.

1355
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: We're riding around going to somebody's house to pick them up,

1356
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: and they're from Cookeville, and it's like a nice neighborhood

1357
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:45,480
Speaker 1: with like you know, like big suburban homes, nothing crazy,

1358
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: not like full on McMansions, but like, you know, nice

1359
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: houses in like a subdivision, right, well kept yards, yeah right.

1360
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: And we're going through there and I'm telling my friends,

1361
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this is insane. I was like everyone

1362
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: I was like, there's not a house this nice and

1363
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: all of Clay County and this neighborhood's full of them

1364
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: or whatever. And one of the dudes was like, are

1365
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: you serious about that? And I was like yeah, man,

1366
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: I was like, there might be one or two up

1367
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: on the lake, but that's it. And he was like, dude,

1368
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: that's poverty. And I was like, oh, shitty's right, that

1369
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: is poverty, you know. So yeah, I had a lot

1370
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: of those, a lot of those realizations we had, Like

1371
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: it's so funny, it's without the whole Southern North thing.

1372
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: There's like a strikingly similar thing that happened where I

1373
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: grew up, where there's some people that around our lake.

1374
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: We had like the Chicago people. There's a couple of

1375
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: places where they bought cottages around the lake I grew

1376
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: up on, and they'd come from four hours away from Chicago,

1377
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: and they were into the same stuff, right, They're into whatever,

1378
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: playing in the water. They're inefficient, but their ship was

1379
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: so much nicer. Right, But again they were working class people,

1380
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: but they had like glass tron boats. They had like

1381
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: dedicated ski boats with stereo systems. Yeah, so when they

1382
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: would stop to like circle around and pick up a

1383
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: skier here that they were playing music, which would just

1384
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 1: blow your mind. How you play music out of a boat, right,

1385
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: And so they did the same stuff that just did

1386
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: it was nice. And if they went fishing, they had

1387
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: like a fishing boat, you know, so they were into

1388
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: the same junk. But it's just their stuff was nice.

1389
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: And you became aware of that was a sort of

1390
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: first inkling that there's another way to go about ship. Yeah,

1391
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: you could be like the Chicago people down the beach

1392
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: everyone disliked. Yeah, even though they liked to do exactly

1393
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: the same stuff, right, it's just they did it with

1394
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: nice stuff, and that annoyed everybody. Yeah. Yeah, you know

1395
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: you complaining about you wouldn't complain about it being nice.

1396
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: You can play about being loud, right, loud music, yeah,

1397
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: loud boats, I mean, yeah, a nice boat. Yeah. My

1398
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: buddy's dad and one friend whose dad was like the

1399
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: highway commissioner. So that's like a good job. That's nothing

1400
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: like in my town. Like as far as like the

1401
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: kids at school go, like you were, your family was

1402
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: considered to have money, Like if your family had money,

1403
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: and so I know that basically meant like your parents

1404
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: were still married and both had a job, right, and

1405
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: that like as being as having money by Salina standards. Right.

1406
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: So my one buddy is that was a highway commissioner,

1407
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: was like a legitimately good job. And so he had

1408
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: a big bass boat, right, But that bass boat was

1409
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 1: our like you know, tube and boat, ski and boat

1410
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 1: whatever else. Like it's just it was just the boat

1411
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: used to boat for all the boat stuff, right. It

1412
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: didn't have an assortment of boats or specialized boats like

1413
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: we were just lucky to have just that one boat.

1414
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: When you started doing the well, what was the first

1415
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: comedy you did? Like, what was the first sort of

1416
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: audience material? So? Um, Like I said, I how do

1417
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: you say when you start comedy? Don't know when you

1418
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: start writing. I guess he's right. When when you start

1419
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: being a writer, I guess in my mind, you start

1420
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: getting paid for your work. Okay, I didn't start. I

1421
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: mean you get paid gas money or whatever it bar

1422
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: shows and stuff. Early on the first time that ever happened,

1423
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: I was probably now, I started him saying, I mean

1424
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: about eighteen months sin to doing it, I'd get paid

1425
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,919
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'd MC at side Splitters in Knoxville,

1426
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: the comedy club there twenty five dollars a show, if

1427
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: that counts. I didn't go full time until the videos

1428
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier went viral in twenty sixteen, so I've

1429
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: been like full time for seven years. I started in

1430
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty ten at Splitters, and we're your first jokes about

1431
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: poor Southern culture, Yeah, all of them. So you never

1432
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: thought that you had to go make up jokes about

1433
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: stuff that other comedians were talking about. No, And it's

1434
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: kind of worked out because I still, like to this day,

1435
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: like for people who don't know they're listening or whatever,

1436
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: like hear the liberal redneck thing. The stand up that

1437
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: I do has always been and it's still like, you know, culture,

1438
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: It's not like straight up political, like I might getting

1439
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: us some political stuff, but I also talk a lot

1440
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: about just like how I grew up, or my hometown

1441
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: or you know, the South in general, how other people

1442
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: think of this out. I got tons of jokes that

1443
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: make fun of California ever since I moved there, you know,

1444
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: like it's not just politics. But one thing I found is,

1445
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: like people in other plays, because I didn't realize either,

1446
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: like you were saying, you're like, you know, you removed

1447
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: the North South from it, and similar stuff was happening

1448
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: in my hometown. Like I didn't realize that until later,

1449
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: but like that holds true for a lot of people

1450
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of places, meaning like a lot of

1451
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: people can relate to that type of thing. Like the

1452
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: other day I went to my eye a new eye

1453
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: doctor in Burbank, California. He's like a mid thirties Armenian

1454
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: dude named doctor Hosseeppen, and he as soon as I

1455
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: came in, he was like, I know this is weird,

1456
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: but I'm a huge fan. He was like, I grew up.

1457
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: He was like, I grew up in a poor immigrant household,

1458
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: and he was liking so much of what you say.

1459
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: Just yeah, right. And another time this dude come up

1460
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: to me after a show and he was like, hey,

1461
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: so I grew up my whole life in Cuba and

1462
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I never knew it until listening to your set just now,

1463
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: but apparently I was a redneck. I guess, he was, like,

1464
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: because all that stuff you were saying like totally applied

1465
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: to me too, So like you know, um, it's a

1466
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: more universal experience than a lot of people realize or whatever.

1467
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: But that's like the high, that's the high mark of

1468
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: art though man rights when you know, you you convey

1469
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: a particular experience and then it, you know, it resonates

1470
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: with people who haven't lived that same one. Yeah, they

1471
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: reflect on their own stuff. It makes them reflect on

1472
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: their own things and feel better about it, or they

1473
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: laugh about it or right, you know. But yeah, I

1474
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: don't remember the exact material, but yes, it was talking

1475
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: about just my very first set was all about like

1476
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: and also at the time because I was really nervous

1477
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: and everything, and also I probably had a couple of

1478
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: drinks because I was nervous. So I get on stage

1479
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: and like, so all of those things means like my

1480
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: accident was like way thicker, you know, I'm up there,

1481
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: like I'm from clay Knty, Tennessee, you know, like it

1482
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: just just belting out yeah without Maine in two and

1483
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: so it probably played because I was talking about how

1484
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: redneck my hometown was. I remember I talked about moonshine,

1485
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: but I don't remember any of the jokes. It was

1486
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: talking about, like, you know, something about punching off makes

1487
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: you want to punch a horse, you know, or whatever

1488
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: else like somebody as we know the party's gonna turn

1489
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: up is when some old boy hols the moon shine

1490
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: out or you know, shit like that, pretty like honestly,

1491
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: pretty U like blue collar comedy tour e type of

1492
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: type of stuff, honestly. And then as I kept going,

1493
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: I started and now I started talking about more like

1494
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, social commentary. You know,

1495
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: I'd have bits about like i'd make fun of the Bible,

1496
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: or I make fun of the Confederacy, or I get

1497
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: into racism or homophobia or that type of ship, but

1498
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 1: always mixed with you know, the other stuff, the lifestyle

1499
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: stuff too. And now I'll talk about you know, I

1500
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: talk about my wife a lot, you know what I mean,

1501
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: So like trying to cover a lot of the bases.

1502
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: Last night I was writing some kids materials. Well, you know,

1503
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: I just like, like, I don't want people to like,

1504
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to just do the one thing, you

1505
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm okay with people knowing me

1506
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: primarily from one thing, but like, I want to do

1507
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: more than just the political stuff. Like I men, one

1508
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: of the guys I work with a lot started a

1509
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: new podcast this year that's just us two hill billy's

1510
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: talking about fancy people shit. Right. It's called putting on

1511
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: errors and it's like not, it's not political at all,

1512
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 1: And I mean we have a lot of fun with it.

1513
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. You know. I try to like

1514
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: find places where fancy and trashy people overlap, like you know,

1515
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: cousin banging or you know, or like getting drunk on

1516
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: a boat or nading a logger or you know, stuff

1517
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 1: like that. Different. That's really that's a great little couple there. Yeah,

1518
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: it's cousin banging and getting drunk on boats. Yeah, right,

1519
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: well more do you want? You know, the boats are different?

1520
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, exactly know what you talk about doing

1521
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: a kid humor? Man, it's like can and I just

1522
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: want to spend it back. We gotta go way back

1523
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: a little bit because I thought you were going to

1524
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: ask the question when you but we didn't never get there.

1525
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: The uncles, no, when you when you're like a kid

1526
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I'm gonna do something in show

1527
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: business and even instead you said you were starting to

1528
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: write down things and you thought you could make fun

1529
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: of But my question is what in your head? What

1530
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: was going on when you're like, oh, I'm funny enough

1531
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: that I could present or were you like always kind

1532
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: of class clowney, Like what gives somebody something in their

1533
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: head with They're like, oh, I'm funny enough that I

1534
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 1: can produce jokes. I like a lot of people laugh,

1535
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of kids from a broken home situation. Whatever.

1536
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: I was funny, Like I was a smart kid, but

1537
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I was also if I wasn't like class clowney, but

1538
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: I was funny. My friends would tell me, like, you know,

1539
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: you should be comedians some day or whatever. Like people

1540
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: would say that. And again, I cannot stress enough the

1541
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: inflated opinion I had of my own mental capabilities intellectual

1542
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: and creatively and everything. So like I was like, yeah,

1543
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I totally do that, you know. And I and I'm

1544
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: not just saying this. I really was aware even then.

1545
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like Cassie, I'm still gonna

1546
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: have my accent right because I can't help it, but

1547
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be dumb and that'll be wild. I'm

1548
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: ain't facetious. But like I was aware. I was aware

1549
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: even then that it would be like a thing, sure

1550
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: that I would have a thing without even trying to

1551
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: have a thing, just by virtue of who I am

1552
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: as a person, you know, Like I thought about that

1553
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: even then, um so, but don't get me wrong, I

1554
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 1: was still very nervous. Like so, by the time I

1555
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: get out of grad school and moved to Knoxville, I'm

1556
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: twenty three, and it was like I was very much like,

1557
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna do it, do it like

1558
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: it's either now or never. You've been keeping your little

1559
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: notes and saying all this shit for years, but either

1560
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: do it or don't. And so I signed up for

1561
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: an open mic. I stacked the deck in my favor,

1562
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of first timers do. I brought a

1563
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: bunch of co workers and stuff with me. Yeah, most

1564
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: people their first time, they end up doing that, you know,

1565
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: they bring friends with them, and so it kind of

1566
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: pumps up the response you get. And then I just

1567
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: got the bug, and I don't think I missed a

1568
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't think I missed an open mic after that

1569
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: for like two and a half years or something. That

1570
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: first night, now, because I had my friends in the crowd, like,

1571
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: it went well. I you know, it wasn't long before

1572
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I bombed, for sure, but by that time it was

1573
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: too late. I was just fully in it, you know, man, dude,

1574
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that like learning Spanish.

1575
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: UM pretty much that learning Spanish and doing a learning

1576
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: Spanish and learning how to do um, and I'll never

1577
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: do it. I'll never do either learning Spanish learning how

1578
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: to do stand up. I think it'd be like really

1579
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: interesting man like saying bad hating to me, like I

1580
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: lost my arms and legs and ship. I would probably

1581
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, usually something bad has happened to

1582
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't no, no, that wouldn't be my line of humor.

1583
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: But I'd be like I would walk away from certain

1584
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: other activities. Well, yeah, I would walk away. Yeah, I

1585
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: would move away from certain activities, and I'd be like,

1586
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I gonna learn Spanish and do stand up. I funny,

1587
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I have started

1588
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: and then ultimately stopped learning Spanish in my life. So

1589
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: I do absolutely. I've like picked it up so many times.

1590
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 1: I've had you know, both duo lingo and was that

1591
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Rosetta stone or whatever? Um, I've yeah, and like I'll

1592
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: start to pick it up and everything, and then I

1593
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: just stopped. For me. I I've always equated learning Spanish

1594
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: like learning to play guitar. For some reason, It's it's

1595
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: like something you ought to do. Something something that seems cool.

1596
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: It's like real easy to not keep up with, do

1597
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it seems cool, you

1598
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: pick it up and then like next thing, you know,

1599
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: you're like, oh damn, oh yeah, I don't do it

1600
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: so far away exactly right. Yeah, I've done that so

1601
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: many times that when we go to Mexico, Steve actually

1602
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: thinks I have decent Spanish. Oh yeah, I got. I

1603
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: used to. I got to a point where I could,

1604
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: like I could read Spanish pretty like pretty well, you know,

1605
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: like I could uh, but I couldn't. I never was

1606
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: able to like uh, and I could speak a little

1607
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: bit of it, but I never could a native Spanish speaker.

1608
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: Talking was always its way too fast. I could never

1609
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: parse it, you know. But now I got next to nothing.

1610
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: It's my second most favorite country, next to America. Mexico.

1611
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: In Mexico, yeah, I go there a couple of times

1612
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: a year, and every time I go there, I come

1613
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: home feeling just humiliated. So I haven't picked up much anything.

1614
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, well, living in living in southern California is

1615
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: like that too, you know. I mean It's like I

1616
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: told my said, that was another time I said, as

1617
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: though that they have sole proprietorship over that land. Yeah,

1618
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: but that's my like, my, that's where I go to

1619
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: feel like a dick for having out learned Spanish. Yeah,

1620
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: but that was one of the times when I moved.

1621
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: When we first moved to La I was like, this

1622
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: is great, I'll finally pick up Spanish. Right seven years later,

1623
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, oh uh my Yamo Trey, Like

1624
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have it at all, you know,

1625
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: and it's everywhere out there. Um uh. I won't get

1626
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: back into like some of your career stuff, but I

1627
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: wanted to come in. You're talking about trying to write

1628
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: kids stuff. Yeah, well not like not four kids, because

1629
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: that's most comics have kids. They have material about their

1630
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: kids and I never have. But it's like a starting path,

1631
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's it's like it's a path

1632
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: you go down. Dude, I'm not a comedian. It's a

1633
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: path you go down. And I think it's like a

1634
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: decision you make. Okay, please a lab break. I'm literally

1635
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: last says I'm gonna start doing jokes about my kids,

1636
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: And it's like a path you go down, right, It's

1637
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: a path you go down. Yeah, but you also can't

1638
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: help it. I made it. I just made a bet

1639
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: with my daughter for ten bucks that she bet me

1640
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: that she broke her toe, and then she didn't. I said,

1641
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: you didn't break her toe? She said, yeah, I did.

1642
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: So she gets the X ray she didn't break her toe,

1643
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: and I said, you one me ten bucks. She says, no,

1644
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the beat because I didn't realize I

1645
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: hadn't broke my toe right home. That's like, it's the

1646
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: whole point of that, that whole thing. That's why like

1647
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: that that that was the whole conversations about that. So

1648
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: they do stuff that's funny. But then if you if

1649
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: you deal in that trafficing that, you become like a dad.

1650
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: You become a dad comedian. Yeah, definitely, you're like my

1651
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: wife boy, the old ball and chain, right, that's the

1652
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: old badle ax. Yeah, that's part of I think that's

1653
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: part of why I've never done it. But I think

1654
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: another reason for me is, like I'm not saying all

1655
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: of them, but I feel like a lot of comics

1656
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: that have kids, when they talk about kids, it's some

1657
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: version of like, you know, oh, they've sapped my life essence,

1658
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like they drain your youth,

1659
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: they kill your dreams. Right, it's like some versions just

1660
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I've just never I've just never really felt that way,

1661
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: and so like I just I don't know, I didn't

1662
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: see the angle. I'm making a bunch of jokes and

1663
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: you know about how much I think it rocks to

1664
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: have kids. Yeah, that's a good thing though, because I've

1665
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: talked to I've talked to some comedians I like about this,

1666
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: where I've tried to explain it to them. I don't

1667
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: know if it resonates with them, but I would. I've

1668
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: said that you you approach stand up from a position

1669
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: of strength, because the like sort of the stereotypical stand

1670
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: up thing is like, oh the old battle acts. They're like, oh,

1671
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, no one at work takes me seriously, oh

1672
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: my kids whatever, you know, no one, I don't get

1673
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: laid right, But to do comedy from yeah, comedy from

1674
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: a position to strength, it's hard, but it's good. Like

1675
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:28,959
Speaker 1: comedy from a position of of of of comfort, yeah right, comfort, happiness,

1676
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: like feeling good about yourself and then do comedy. Yeah. Well,

1677
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: And that's part of the because I do think it

1678
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: makes it somewhat novel because that's usually how to go.

1679
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: The stuff I was kind of working on my side

1680
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: or thinking about, is it's all positive about having kids,

1681
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: like it sort of talks about everybody says all these

1682
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: negative things about it, and then I tell why, you

1683
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: know why I think it's positive, which is hopefully you know,

1684
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: makes it different and it's fresh. But yeah, but I do,

1685
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I do self deprecate, but I also like,

1686
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, um, like another part of my opial I

1687
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: think is literally sometimes just like big work, it's like

1688
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: the sounding kind of smart thing like sometimes like crowd

1689
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Connecticut or something, I feel like they're laughing, is like

1690
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: do you hear that? It seems smart but it sounded dumb.

1691
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I love that, like uh, And so that's because I've

1692
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: also taught there's this uh, this media company that I've

1693
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: worked with before, like doing some pilots and stuff. They're

1694
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: like a vice type of outfit, but it's not vice,

1695
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 1: and they're The guy that works here told me once

1696
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: it's the reason He's like, the reason we love you

1697
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: is because your pretension proof, right, He was like you

1698
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: He's like he's like he's like, you're never gonna come

1699
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: across to our audience as preachy or pretentious because your

1700
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: Southern because of in the unspoken part is like because

1701
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: of how dumb you sound, right Like it makes you

1702
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 1: immune to that, Like you could be just as you know, superior,

1703
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: acting as you know, just as sanctimonious as anybody, but

1704
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna sound all dumb while you're doing it. Well,

1705
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, they done so on other Southerners though they

1706
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: have They have people read the same speech. Yeah right,

1707
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: They have people with different accents give the same speech,

1708
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: and then people rate how well they knew the subject matter.

1709
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: And the Southerners are like, damn, guy eated he's talking

1710
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: about that. I did not know that was an actual study. Uh.

1711
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I've got a bit about that, or that exact thing

1712
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: about how if you say the same thing to people

1713
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: in different accents, it'll impact them in different ways. The

1714
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: British person is gonna be more impressive, exactly right in

1715
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: in a Southern mail, it's gonna be less. It's gonna

1716
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be The material he gives is gonna sound

1717
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: less legit. Can you give us an example? Uh So?

1718
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: The example I'm using right now is like, even if

1719
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: you pick a famous quote that sounds smart on its

1720
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: own like like John Lennon's life is what happens when

1721
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you're busy making other plans. Right, like you said somebody

1722
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: in a French accent. You know, life is what that beens.

1723
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: We you're busy making us plans, people are like, you're

1724
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: so right, so we should have sex right now, right,

1725
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Like I just want to have sex all of a sudden,

1726
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know why. You know Australian accent. Oh

1727
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: might watch what happens you're busy making other plans. People

1728
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: are like, he oh, yeah, well that's a party. This

1729
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: guy likes the party. I could just tell But if

1730
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: you say it in my accent, that's what happens when

1731
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: you're busy making other plans. People are like, oh no,

1732
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: he's not gonna tell us his plans. He I don't

1733
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: want to hear this guy's plans probably involved truck nuts

1734
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and taky torches. Let's get out of here. But yeah,

1735
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: but I did in other literal studies, I'd like to

1736
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: check those out. We're talking about it. You had a

1737
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: bit for a while. You had a bit for I

1738
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: want to talk with the inception of the liberal redneck.

1739
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: You had a bit for a while where you do

1740
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: sort of that it would be like that same joke

1741
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 1: he was talking about when you're talking about like having

1742
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: a liberal perspective coming from a rural Southerner. Yeah, but

1743
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: then you started doing it for real? Exactly what was

1744
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: it the guy you going on it? Well, when did

1745
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: you start to do this free standing without all the

1746
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: without all the build up. You know, there's actually a

1747
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 1: very specific that I know exactly what it was because

1748
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: I had that bit for a little while. I told

1749
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: my comic friends, I'm thinking about making a series, an

1750
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: internet series based on that idea. Every one of them

1751
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: was like, that's a really good idea. You absolutely should

1752
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: do that. But at the time I was like, I

1753
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, man, I have to like

1754
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: save up money and buy a nice camera. I have

1755
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: to learn how to edit. I'm theed lighting. It'll have

1756
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: to can't look like an amateur, you know. I thought

1757
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: there was like a barrier, you know. I thought I

1758
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: had to do better, like in terms of that. And

1759
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: then one day, in like the spring of twenty sixteen,

1760
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: North Carolina had passed that anti trans bathroom law they

1761
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: had right at the transgender bathroom law. You guys remember that, Yeah,

1762
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: do you remember, I can't remember, they passed a law

1763
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: prohibiting trans people from using but you had to go

1764
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: to the bathroom of your biological birth gender or whatever.

1765
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: So like a trans woman who is now a woman

1766
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: would have to go to mend room or that law

1767
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 1: or whatever. So anyway they had made that law. I

1768
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: saw this video that was going viral amongst the right,

1769
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: so like I saw people and I went to high

1770
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: school with sharing it on Facebook. And it was this

1771
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: preacher in North Carolina who was mad as hell about

1772
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 1: this whole thing. He's like preaching fire and Brimstone out

1773
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: in the woods for some reason, you know, yelling at

1774
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: his phone and not being funny at all, not a

1775
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: dick joking site, just like just nothing, but but just

1776
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: you know, fire and brimstone, shocking all about the horrors

1777
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: of these animals in the bathroom with our baby girls

1778
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: and whatever else. And this video had like fifteen million

1779
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: views on Facebook, right, And when I saw that, it

1780
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: was like a lightbulb went off. I was like, well,

1781
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: if that guy, if that thing is like the thing

1782
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make fun of, then like I don't

1783
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 1: need any that fancy shit, like in fact, that would

1784
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: be a mistake, like I should just do it exactly

1785
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the way that he does. I should just go out

1786
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and yell at my phone, right, and now it's like

1787
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: the simplest thing in the world. But like I hadn't

1788
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: looked at it that way until I saw that guy,

1789
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: and then I realized. And after I realized, I went

1790
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 1: out and I made the first one. The first one

1791
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: was about my home state of Tennessee, trying to make

1792
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: the Holy Bible the official state buck right, and it

1793
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: got like seventy thousand views or something, which I was

1794
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: over the moon about. I was complete anonymity at this time,

1795
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Like I was blown away by that. So I was like,

1796
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm definitely onto something. I'll keep going. I made the

1797
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: second one. The second one was about the transgender bathroom law,

1798
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: and it ended up getting like tens of millions of

1799
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: views and went like crazy viral and changed my life

1800
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: literally overnight. So wherever that preacher is, I hope he

1801
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 1: knows it, like this was all his fault, mysterious ways.

1802
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm right, buddy. So when when you had that and

1803
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,640
Speaker 1: it took off, but you still would do normal, like

1804
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: you didn't just totally that then become your comedy bit

1805
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: though stage. Yeah, you had to keep it separate. Yes,

1806
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: and I do keep it separate. But I'd like to say,

1807
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 1: and I've been you know, I've been touring post going

1808
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: viral for seven years now, and so I feel pretty

1809
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: comfortable saying that, Like, if people like those videos, I

1810
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: think they'll like my stand up too. And I also

1811
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: think that maybe people that don't like those videos or

1812
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: don't want to hear just a bunch of political stuff

1813
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 1: would also still like a lot of my stand up

1814
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: because I'm still the same guy, right, So like I'm

1815
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: still like scratching a lot of the same itches or

1816
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: touch you know what I mean. I'm still like in

1817
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: the same ballpark just by virtue of just being who

1818
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: I am. But no, I do not like rant about

1819
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: politics on stage as a stand up. I do, like,

1820
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, more traditional stand up material about whatever subjects

1821
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 1: has you're there's a difference between you could have political

1822
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: differences right with your friends you grew up with. But

1823
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have if you're gonna do political differences

1824
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: and then get tons of audience, right, I could see

1825
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: that causing friction. Do you have friction with people you

1826
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: grew up around? Yeah, I mean, I really hate to

1827
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: say this, but I mean some of them, I feel

1828
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: like it's just broken now. There was like friction at first,

1829
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: and gradually it's nothing ever happened. It was never like,

1830
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: you know what we're done, Nothing like that ever happened.

1831
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: But I just at a certain point you realize, like

1832
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: I ain't heard from or talk to him in a

1833
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: really long time, and like that's also on me, you

1834
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it got not with all

1835
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: of them. A lot of my friends are like, they're

1836
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: like me. They're either a political or they're more you know,

1837
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: they like lean left. A lot of the other Salina boys,

1838
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, the group of buddies I grew up with them.

1839
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm still tight with. But some of them, yeah, it

1840
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: got weird. But if I ran into them at Christmas

1841
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: or whatever, I know that it would be cool, Like

1842
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: we'd you know, hug it out. Might be slightly awkward,

1843
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: but it would be okay. But like we almost never

1844
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: used to talk politics at all ever. And one of

1845
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: the times that just happened. I had rented a house

1846
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 1: bottom Dalhalla where everybody went out there, brought their kids

1847
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And one of the guys I'm talking about

1848
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 1: like he comes up to being out of nowhere, like

1849
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: we're staying there drinking beer, looking at a fire on

1850
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 1: the lakeside or whatever, and out of nowhere. He's like,

1851
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: he's like, tray, you know me, man, He's like, you know,

1852
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: like I worked my job, I pay my taxes or

1853
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: raise my kids, like I'm a you know, I'm an

1854
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: upstanding member of society or whatever. And it's like and

1855
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: he is, He's an all American family man, one hundred percent.

1856
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I know, buddy, And he

1857
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: was like, I just don't understand why you think I

1858
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: ought not be able to have a gun right. And

1859
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't think that, buddy, you know,

1860
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, what do you mean. I was like,

1861
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't think. I've never said I don't know why

1862
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 1: you think. I think he just found out that I

1863
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: was like liberal and then assumed I wanted to take

1864
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: everybody's guns or whatever. And I was like, I was like,

1865
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: I was like, you helped me move my grandpa's guns

1866
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: to my house, Like where you think? Like wh you

1867
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: think happened to it? But I told him, I was like,

1868
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I I've never thought that was like,

1869
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, I think there's a

1870
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,839
Speaker 1: lot of people in this country or dangerous or unhinged

1871
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they shouldn't have a gun, and maybe

1872
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: we should try to find better ways to keep guns

1873
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: out of those people's hands. And he was like, well, hell,

1874
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I was like right. I

1875
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, so we pretty much are

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01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: on the same page, right, you know, but like you

1877
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: just assumed that it wasn't the case, because I feel

1878
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of people do that. If someone self

1879
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: identifies as being on the other side of the fence

1880
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: politically from you, people tend to like automatically assign them

1881
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: to the far end of that special you know what

1882
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 1: I mean, And it works in both directions, and most

1883
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: of the time that's not that's not the case. Like

1884
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: those people do exist, and I could do without either

1885
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, the extremest on either end.

1886
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 1: I'm not not a big fan of. Most people are

1887
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: not really that far separated from each other on most

1888
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: of like the big things I think, you know what

1889
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the centrist, the centrist redneck isn't funny. No, No,

1890
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a centrist at all. I'm just saying, like,

1891
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I think that if you were, it's not funny, right, Like,

1892
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, it just has to be. That says a lot.

1893
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm glad you get it. Yeah, no, it doesn't. You know,

1894
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't need to do the whole. I don't need

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01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 1: to do the whole. I don't agree with you on

1896
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: everything because I pointing out the people. I don't agree

1897
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: with anybody and everything, right, including my mom and my wife.

1898
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: That's also so, I don't agree with anybody and everything.

1899
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: But I think I like you're that'sh it's funny. I

1900
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 1: like your I mean appreciate I could watch uh it's funny.

1901
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: It pains me that no one there might be a

1902
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: lot to it. It pains me that that very few

1903
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 1: people from the right of the political spectrum can do

1904
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: that kind of humor. M there's probably like a scientific

1905
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: explanation for it. There's some that can. They've done it,

1906
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: like the right has very like some comedians have very

1907
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: effectively made jokes about the excesses of the left. But

1908
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: even like you're looking like Bill Maher right, he's from

1909
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 1: the left, right, but he's very good at making jokes

1910
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: about the excesses of the left. So they've been able

1911
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: to do that. There's it's like, I don't know, there's

1912
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: just a lack of there's not that much really funny

1913
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: news commentary coming from the right. It's just they don't

1914
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with because it's like they if

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01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: you have a right like a perspective from the right

1916
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: looking at commentary is much more likely to go what

1917
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: world coming to? Yeah, that someone needs to pay that's what,

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01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 1: and they're less likely to do like, holy shit, dude,

1919
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And then joke about it. No, No,

1920
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what that was gonna be My

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01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 1: response to that. It does seem like that's more of

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01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: the default state of their commentary is more I a

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01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: geared towards like vitriol and that sort of thing. That's

1924
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 1: a hot tip for comedian for right wing comedians. Just

1925
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: figure out how to do funny news commentary at night

1926
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: and you probably get a big show. Uh yeah, you

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01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: know there's something like, uh, well, nah, he's not he's

1928
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: not straight up right. When I was gonna say, I

1929
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 1: think one of the funniest dudes on earth is you know,

1930
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Tim Dillon, and he's kind of you don't know, Tim

1931
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: Dillon he's so funny and he's like he but he's not, like,

1932
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: he's not super right wing. He's sort of got his

1933
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 1: own thing going on politically, do you know what I mean.

1934
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. I just uh, he's kind of

1935
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a huge podcast and stuff lately.

1936
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Speaker 1: So I just thought that, you know, he might be

1937
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 1: a reference point people know. He's like a he's a

1938
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: d He's like a very long Island d like New

1939
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: Yorker guy. He's like a like a tough talking kind

1940
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 1: of conservative dude. But he's also a gay man. And

1941
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: so it's like, but he's just I'm just saying he's

1942
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: not a lefty and he's super funny. So like and

1943
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: Nick de Polo, I haven't you know, he's been a

1944
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: comic for forever. I always thought he was super funny.

1945
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: I know he's very conservative. Like there's you know, there's

1946
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: some Dennis Miller turn conservative. I was always a huge

1947
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: fan of his. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Um,

1948
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 1: so you know there's some when I'm watching yourself though, man,

1949
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm always like I'm like, uh, I always have this

1950
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 1: thing in my head. I'm like, that's a good point,

1951
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: and um, I'll think, like if if you're talking about

1952
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,480
Speaker 1: something that I'm not totally on board with your perspective

1953
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: on it, I'm listening, I'm like, damn it, that's a

1954
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 1: good point and someone would have to really think of

1955
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: a good way to get around that one. I got

1956
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 1: nothing here. Really, I really appreciate all the stuff you're saying,

1957
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: because that's like I try to you know. I mean,

1958
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going for a lot of times, Like

1959
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: even if you disagree with me, you can like at

1960
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: least have to acknowledge part of where I'm coming from. Yeah,

1961
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: it's like it's like really, um, it's really funny, fun

1962
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: compelling arguments and then you kind of you know it too.

1963
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Is like I guess for me, right, you know, for

1964
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 1: me being a Yankee, I guess maybe in some way

1965
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: I'm as guilty of the ship that you're talking about,

1966
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: the like stereotypes and stuff. You man, I don't know,

1967
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: it's funny, like you know it, it's it's somehow in

1968
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: my head. It's um. Maybe I'll like I'll never get

1969
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: over the surprise of like the joke in the first place. Yeah, right, yes,

1970
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 1: it's the joke in the first place. If you're gonna

1971
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 1: hear someone you know as like you're there with with

1972
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: your sort of background vocabulary, way of expression, accent on

1973
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: a rant with a camo hat. I feel like, let

1974
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: me let me guess how this guy feels about the

1975
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: best feels about the bathroom is well, you know, I

1976
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: mean that's like I mean that right there is the

1977
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: whole sason, you know what i mean. I'm just like

1978
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: I could just I can hear it before you start,

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01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: and then you like it winds up being like not

1980
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: at all you want you're going to hear. I mean

1981
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 1: that is kind of like my whole thing right there,

1982
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, what how you

1983
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: just laid that out? I feel like that's it's kind

1984
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: of putting it in a nutshell the videos at least,

1985
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: because I mean, yeah, it's none of it would like

1986
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: have worked the way that it does if people weren't

1987
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: thinking that or thinking the same thing, you know. I mean,

1988
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm very aware of it, and I and I get it.

1989
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: It's just like that's the thing too when it comes

1990
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Speaker 1: to South and stereotypes, I'm always like I'm not trying

1991
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 1: to say that they don't exist, like stereotypess this for

1992
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: reasons like a lot of those people are you know,

1993
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff is real. It's just that

1994
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: we don't have a monopoly on it. It's like you

1995
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: said earlier, I don't remember if we recording yet or not.

1996
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Walmart got brought up and oh and you and you

1997
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 1: were like, we got those people up here too, and

1998
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: like right, like that, well, let me let me do

1999
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: it right, because Yanni's not guilty of doing that. I

2000
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: did that right. So what Clay, our colleague Clay who

2001
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: tell about earlier, has a UM. He has a very

2002
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 1: good podcast called Beargreas Podcast, and in it he's exploring them.

2003
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: He's from Arkansas, and somewhere he found that like for

2004
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 1: some long span of years, Arkansas was the most maligned

2005
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: state in the Union, not even over Mississippi. Well, I

2006
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: think it got beat by West Virginia or something. West Virginia.

2007
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: For a long time, Arkansas is the most maligned thing.

2008
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: And he's talking about the um sort of the persecution

2009
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: complex of yes of hill people, country people in Arkansas.

2010
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: And when he's laying this out to me, he was

2011
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: get into how there's when when you get into the

2012
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: complexity of it, though, he goes you know, not many

2013
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: people would guess that this world class art gallery. I

2014
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it. You know, Crystal Bridges.

2015
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you would know that Crystal Bridges, this

2016
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: world class art galleries in Arkansas. Right, and he goes

2017
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: and you might not know the Walmart all right, And

2018
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 1: I was laughing with I was laughing at being like,

2019
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: I feel that that is on the other side of

2020
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: the art, right, that's not coupled with Crystal Bridges just

2021
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: totally exports Arkansas, Yeah, totally, yeah, like as a total

2022
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 1: So when you came here talking about our Walmart conversation,

2023
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: we were laughing about me and Clay's sort of public

2024
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 1: debate about yeah, what what in the popular imagination when

2025
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 1: people think of Walmart and sort of how it's treated

2026
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: in the comedy world. Right, if you're gonna if a

2027
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: comedian is gonna do a Walmart joke, Yeah, it's not

2028
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna be about sophisticated business practices, right, it's not gonna

2029
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: be about revolutionizing yeah, supply chain innovation. Yeah. Yeah, it's

2030
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: like you're limiting edge logistics. I'm a new bleeding edge logistics.

2031
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Bet about Walmart, it would be a wild angle to take,

2032
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: but they U. Yeah, well it's not just like comics

2033
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,480
Speaker 1: doing bitsy. I mean there's like, you know, people of Walmart.

2034
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Like it's like, you know what I'm talking about, Like,

2035
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: so there's a sub bredded. I think there's an Instagram.

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01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 1: It's like they just post pictures of people of Walmart

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: and the y in their natural habitat, you know, the

2038
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 1: the chipsisle or whatever like and you know, so I

2039
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: mean it's just like it's a thing. You know, it's not.

2040
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, you said that we're talking about that. I

2041
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: said something about it and Jannest was like, well, to

2042
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: be fair, like we got those up here too, And

2043
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. It's like, especially since I started

2044
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: traveling as a comedian, everything going all over the place.

2045
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:52,959
Speaker 1: Like if you drive from Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington,

2046
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 1: which I have done, like the topography and everything is different,

2047
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: but like culturally speaking, you start seeing a lot of

2048
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 1: very familiar stuff if you're from the rural South, you

2049
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the same thing between San Francisco dichotomy. Yeah, right,

2050
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 1: like you know the whole Like there's the man out

2051
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: self identify as Rednecks, but there's you know, redneck adjacent

2052
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: people and pretty much every state in this country, I mean,

2053
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: eastern Washington on the rednecks proud of it, no doubt, right, yeah,

2054
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: I know some of them are, like some of them are, yeah,

2055
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: proud of it. And I think like the way country music,

2056
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: Nashville country, like radio country music has gone in recent years,

2057
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 1: is added to like the sort of like, you know,

2058
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: having that as an identity strongly wherever you're from, like

2059
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: if you're from Maine or wherever, you know, but like

2060
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: redneck and proud, you know, because it's become more of

2061
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Speaker 1: a like just like a cultural identification or something the

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01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: country recent years. Yeah, right exactly. But yeah, that's the

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01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 1: only genre of music that I'll that like, I don't.

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01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't have like favorite genres. I have like artists

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: that I like and whatever, but like radio countries, only

2066
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: when I take like personally you know what I like,

2067
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: I uh, I don't know, I can't stand it, like

2068
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 1: I like, well, like the stuff that is on the radio,

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01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: not like yeah, you know, like not what they call Americana, right,

2070
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: which Americans like Stargill Simpson, Jason Zwell, Tyler Childress whatever.

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Speaker 1: And I've always thought like as far as I could tell,

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: Americana is just country music. That's good, right, So they

2073
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 1: can't call it. They can't call it country, have to

2074
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: call it something else. But uh but yeah, like the

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01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: last time I went downtown in Nashville, because I grew

2076
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: up going to Nashville all the time and I still

2077
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: go every year and do shows and stuff. But the

2078
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,919
Speaker 1: last time I went downtown the real touristy part Broadway,

2079
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Second Avenue, Honky Talking, right, I was in town with

2080
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: this camera crew. They're all California people, and they wanted

2081
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 1: they wanted to go Honky talk, like they specifically wanted

2082
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: to go downtown, and I was like, I don't want,

2083
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, but I was like the the local guys.

2084
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'll go with you. And we

2085
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: get down there and they're like, uh. I just get

2086
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 1: in there and I have a couple drinks. I'm looking

2087
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: around and it's like to me, I just see all

2088
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,759
Speaker 1: these people that are like like cosplaying as my cousin

2089
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Ray or something like that, like you know what

2090
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they go down to go to redneck

2091
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 1: fantasy camp or something, you know, and like it just uh,

2092
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll just I'll get my red up

2093
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: as it where I'll get annoyed. The last time I

2094
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: got kicked down, I got kicked out of a bar

2095
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: down there because they started playing Courtesy of the Red, White,

2096
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: and Blue, and everybody's singing along while this dude and

2097
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: a cut off camo shirt like white it stands on

2098
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 1: the bar, and waves of American fly back and forth

2099
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: across everybody else and all this stuff. And I started screaming.

2100
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: This is no longer true. I've since found out, but this,

2101
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: at one point was true. I started screaming at the

2102
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: top of my lungs. Toby Keith is a registered democratister Democrat,

2103
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: and they kicked me out for it. But uh and

2104
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: you were lying anyway, now he was He's not, you

2105
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: know you are. You're right. I was lying because I

2106
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: said he is a registered Democrat and that's not. He's

2107
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: not anymore. But around the time, that's emblematic of himself.

2108
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: That is, You're right, it's true. What do you call it?

2109
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 1: Um blue dog? Uh? No, when something's that, like a

2110
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: small thing is emblematic of something larger, microcosm, microcosm of

2111
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the American soulf and held it. Yeah, you're right. Man,

2112
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,879
Speaker 1: I want to come see you do a show sometimes.

2113
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I'd love it. Yeah, Montana's I am. Yeah. You go

2114
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: to tray Crowder dot com check it out. Also got

2115
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: a special on Amazon right now. You can find there

2116
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: as well, which we watched. It was funny shows coming

2117
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 1: up Montana. I was actually about to say, I need

2118
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: to get on to my agent about this. Montana is

2119
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: one of only like four or five states left in

2120
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: America that I have not done stand up in. Have

2121
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: you done Alaska? That's one of the other ones. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming,

2122
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 1: North Dakota. I've been to far I got Maston Fargo

2123
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: on accident. On accident, I sort like we somebody else. Yes, Yes,

2124
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: the elevator doors open, we're holding pizza. We're going back

2125
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: to our tail round to record a podcast. Elevator doors open,

2126
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: just pandamon them pepper spray. Ever, some dude runs by

2127
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: bleeding from the nose and a wife beater like, you know,

2128
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: trying to get the hell out of there. We're like,

2129
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 1: we start coughing, throwing up and stuff or you know,

2130
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 1: almost thrown up. It was wild, And then the hotel

2131
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: was really weird. Is they It's almost like they wouldn't

2132
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: even acknowledge that it had happened. Like like, after we

2133
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: try to talk to him, we're like like, we're not like,

2134
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: we're not trying to complain, We're not gonna file charges

2135
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: or so anybody or whatever, but just like just what

2136
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: was that about, you know, And they're like, we, uh,

2137
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, I really shouldn't speak on that kind of thing.

2138
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you or whatever. Like

2139
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 1: they just wouldn't. They just wouldn't even acknowledge that this

2140
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: incident had occurred. So I still don't know the details

2141
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: of it. But yeah, I got I got inadvertently macedon Fargo.

2142
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: The show was fun though, South Dakota is one of

2143
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 1: them though, so yeah, but I'd love to come back

2144
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: to Montana and do a show up here. I just

2145
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: even when I got here, just driving around, I was like,

2146
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I need to send my agent an email about making

2147
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, tell us. I just realized there's all

2148
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 1: kinds of people here, right, Yeah, more and more, right,

2149
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. I

2150
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: feel like like music, you're you're surprised by um, you're

2151
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: surprised by the musicians that come through here. Yeah, I

2152
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: mean because because you know, relative to the relatively low population,

2153
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: you're surprised by the musicians, but you're not often surprised

2154
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 1: by well me and Crean saw Chappelle. Yeah, but but

2155
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: there's not like it's not like a big stop. It's

2156
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 1: not like a big stop for like, it's not a

2157
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 1: big comedy stop. Right, Maybe that's changing. Maybe I'm wrong.

2158
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: I feel it's a big comedy. So yeah, I think

2159
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: there's like a new club that someone from California moved

2160
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: here to open. I don't remember what it's called. I've

2161
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: never been there, but it last best coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

2162
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: then there's a little problem where I don't go out

2163
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: that heard that I mean other than not out I know, yeah, yeah,

2164
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't. That's one of the things. One of the

2165
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: upsides that I had in mind for having kids, like

2166
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: I told you other trying to think of like the

2167
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: positives having kids or whatever, is that kids are like

2168
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: a cheap code for getting out of shit and like

2169
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: canceling plans, like no one's ever gonna question you can

2170
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: get out of whatever you want to get out of it.

2171
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 1: As you get older, like getting out of stuff. It's

2172
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: like way better than going to stuff, and when you

2173
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 1: got to go to something, when you got to go

2174
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: to something, you don't want to go to these one

2175
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: of your kids exactly that way, you can come exactly

2176
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: focus on them, talk to them, pay attention to them,

2177
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: and then leverage them as why you gotta go, why

2178
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: you gotta go, why you gotta get out of there? Exactly?

2179
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: Love it? Yeah, I love it. It's a great thing.

2180
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: It drives a real wedge in my marriage that I

2181
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: don't like to do stuff. Yeah, I don't like to

2182
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 1: go out in public. Right, Yeah, I mean my wife's

2183
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: the same way. But I tell you, I mean you're

2184
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: probably travel even more than I do, I guess or not, right,

2185
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: like in a super public way with it. We kind

2186
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 1: of hold up. Yeah, right, we totally hold up. But

2187
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: is that But is that why because you travel so

2188
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: much when you're back here you just don't want to

2189
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: do nothing? Or also you just can't go out? No,

2190
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: it's older, I get yeah, right, I just don't want

2191
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: to do it. I just don't. I don't want to.

2192
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 1: I just don't like engaging that much. You know, it

2193
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: gets a problem I got to work through totally or not.

2194
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: We could also just not which is probably what you

2195
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: just gonna get yourself one of them red hats. Oh yeah,

2196
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about people. Oh yeah, brother, I feel like, man,

2197
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I never knew it could be so fun to go out.

2198
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 1: I knew it a lot more fun. I need to get, Like, yeah,

2199
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 1: I need to get a Biden hat and go out.

2200
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: No one will talk to me. Do we still enough

2201
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: time to take and tell me why all soulinders are

2202
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: just born good storytellers? Oh yeah, this is good to

2203
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: explore your prejudice. Yeah, his prejudice or you better at it.

2204
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, you know, I don't want to I want

2205
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 1: to start any kind of uh, you know, regional dispute

2206
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: or anything. But got in supremacy of storytelling supremacy. But

2207
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: it's definitely like a thing. And like I got this one, buddy.

2208
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 1: He's just a good old boy. His actual like his

2209
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: nickname is Porno. Actually nickname's Regulars, Like you know, Porno

2210
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: ducks Sunshine, right, But anyway, Porno's like he's like a machinist,

2211
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, works in a factory. Good dude, everything pretty

2212
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 1: damn country from my hometown and all this, and he's

2213
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: just like but he's not any kind performer is what

2214
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And but he's just like just a natural

2215
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 1: masterclass storyteller, do you know what I mean, Like he'll

2216
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: just anytime he's done anything, like if you ask him

2217
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: about it, you know you're in for a good time,

2218
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the fair he came

2219
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 1: to visit me in Knoxville from our hometown. This man

2220
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: at this point in time I'm talking about, he was

2221
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 1: probably thirty two, thirty one, thirty two, first time he'd

2222
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 1: ever driven on the interstate, right, And so like I

2223
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: knew that was gonna be funny when he got there, right,

2224
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, Man, he comes through just like all out

2225
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 1: of whack. It's like sweating and like god, damn something,

2226
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh he's animals out here, you know whatever. And then

2227
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 1: it's like tell me all about it, porno, you know,

2228
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 1: And then he does, and it's always tremendous. As for

2229
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 1: why that is, I wish I had an answer for you,

2230
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, some things are just like

2231
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 1: ingrained culturally, I guess. Like and also we're big and

2232
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean this in a I mean this in a

2233
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 1: good way where like we're big bullshitters. Yeah, do you know,

2234
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 1: like just naturally like I'm agreeing because I understand that

2235
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 1: you're saying that in a positive light. Yeah, right now,

2236
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: abellish things for either you know, comedic or dramatic effect

2237
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's just like that's also a big thing culturally.

2238
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's like a little bit fool of ship,

2239
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: but in a fun way, you know. And I think

2240
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: that you know, that helps him telling a story if

2241
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: you're the type of person to do that kind of thing.

2242
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: And when I married a gal from the South, from

2243
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and when I got introduced to the South,

2244
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I would go and visit just feel like,

2245
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: this is great. I'm just gonna listen to people talking,

2246
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: laugh my ass off, yeah now because the accident, because

2247
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 1: the stories are good and I'm laughing, it's great. So

2248
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 1: I was entertained by it. So when you went to

2249
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 1: Michigan for the first time, were you like, fuck, these

2250
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: people were boring? Oh yeah, that's a good way of

2251
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 1: putting it. Did you think they were great storytellers? Uh? No, No,

2252
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 1: but I didn't think. I didn't think they were boring

2253
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: or anything. I mean, my first first time I ever

2254
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 1: went to Michigan was up that old day job. I

2255
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 1: spent a week in Michigan at a training thing with

2256
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: other people. They worked for the Department of Defense, So

2257
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: it was like a pretty like buttoned up affair, do

2258
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But I remember one time

2259
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics of it. We were broken

2260
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: up into a group. We're having to decide on something.

2261
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree. One girl said one thing, another girl

2262
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 1: said the other, and I said, quoting old brother where

2263
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: art Thou? I said, well, I'm with you fellers right,

2264
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 1: like just playing around, And I could tell that they

2265
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: both just thought I was just saying that, do you

2266
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they had no idea it was.

2267
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 1: I was quoting a movie or doing a bit or whatever.

2268
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 1: They were just like, okay, that doesn't help, but all right,

2269
02:02:57,120 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, I don't know. I like, I've

2270
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: gone to appreciate the Midwest because I think that, like, um, well,

2271
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: because I also like why, I don't know, I don't

2272
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 1: know where you're from originally, but you're talk about getting

2273
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 1: introduced to the South, Like I feel like you guys

2274
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:15,120
Speaker 1: in particular, like your whole thing, Like this is gonna

2275
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: sound so dumb, but I can remember I can remember

2276
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: being surprised also to find out that like hunting and

2277
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: fishing and all that type of stuff was so big

2278
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: in other parts of the country too. Like as a kid,

2279
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I thought that was all South shit. Yeah, right, like

2280
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: because it was such a huge thing there, and I

2281
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't a thing everywhere, and I thought that

2282
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 1: was like like a Southern thing, but obviously it's not.

2283
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 1: And so I'm saying, like, it's just I just feel

2284
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 1: like there's a whole lot of overlap, you know what

2285
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Speaker 1: I mean, like cultural overlor in terms of interest and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Like you're gonna sound different, but still you know, it

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be too alien to you. I wouldn't think a

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Speaker 1: lot of you can definitely find a lot of common ground.

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Speaker 1: I would think, you know, sportsman for sure. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but uh but yeah. But are people in Michigan good

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Speaker 1: telling stories? I don't. I don't know. Yeah, right, I think, Well,

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Speaker 1: let me here's the way of putting it. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap her up. I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: one last story. Me and Ronnie Bang okay, missile, Me

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Speaker 1: and another very Yankee person. We were down in South

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Speaker 1: Carolina one time. We're with some guys, we're working up

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Speaker 1: a custom load for a rifle. So you go out

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Speaker 1: shoot a couple rounds okay, and you go back into

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Speaker 1: the reloading bench and mess around and the amount Like

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Speaker 1: he was losing his mind because the going in, getting

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Speaker 1: the ice tea and talking and everybody sits down. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, holy shit, man, this should take twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: He was the thing. Yeah, the world and he like

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Speaker 1: he went on rant yeah afterward about he went on

2305
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 1: a rant about what in the world, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think he attributed it to there's no sense of needing

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Speaker 1: to um. He at treated that there's no sense of

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Speaker 1: needing to get like the wood cut and the crop

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Speaker 1: in right because the cold's coming. Yeah no, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: winter is not coming. I'll say. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he just cut though this cut would later now is

2312
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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to go anywhere because the snow

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Speaker 1: life definitely does move at like a slower pace like

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Speaker 1: legitimate layers, like I feel like a lot of rednecks

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Speaker 1: lost Southern people, will you know, take half an hour

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Speaker 1: or forty five minutes to say goodbye, to like leave

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Speaker 1: a place. Show Man's like, well, better get out of here.

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Speaker 1: You know, and then they stand up and they're like

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Speaker 1: you talp the page lately, you know, just start a

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Speaker 1: whole new thing, and then, you know, and then end

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Speaker 1: up in the driveway standing by the truck having a

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Speaker 1: whole separate conversation for ten fifth table minutes. Get in

2323
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Speaker 1: the truck, roll the window down to keep talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: highly pull out on Yale on their way out the

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Speaker 1: guns from Birmingham, Alabama. Whenever we try to leave your house,

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Speaker 1: it'd be a three hour affairs off for us, four

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Speaker 1: different dishes or something, and you know to take well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna drive up and blow away. There's Midwest comics

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Speaker 1: that do best bits about the Midwest Goodbye, and it's

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Speaker 1: very similar. Well stay right there, yeah, yeah, like start

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Speaker 1: by putting your coat on, then stay at the door

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Speaker 1: and have another beer, and then you have to stay

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Speaker 1: longer because you gotta let that beer wear off, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so on, so on and so forth. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It is, like I do think there's like

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Speaker 1: a lot of cultural overlap really between the because also

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Speaker 1: it's like that's all as far as like the coast

2338
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Speaker 1: coastal elites and all that stuff, you know, the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Also is that's flyover country? Do you know what I mean? Like,

2340
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Speaker 1: there's it's all the middle part of America that you know,

2341
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Speaker 1: the coast looks down their noses at or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: there's just I don't know, there's a lot of I

2343
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of common ground there or should be,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's probably the Southerners who would hold

2345
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Speaker 1: it up because you know, the whole Yankee thing. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, man, tell people how to find you pretty

2347
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Speaker 1: much just by name, which is spelled round because I'm

2348
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Speaker 1: white trash. It's a t r a E Crowder. How

2349
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Speaker 1: are they supposed to spell it t r e y generally?

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Speaker 1: Oh tr a e r a E Crowder dot com

2351
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: or just that's how people can find your shows. That's

2352
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Speaker 1: find my shows and the special But any social media

2353
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: you use, it's also I'm also just Trey Crowder on there,

2354
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Speaker 1: except for Instagram because of some bitch scoped me. So

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Speaker 1: I'm official Tray Crowder on Instagram. But the rest of

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Speaker 1: them are just Trey Crowder, so pretty much just called

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Speaker 1: scoped scoped. Yeah, I said scooped, scooped, Oh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I know, I was asking you scooped you you know,

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Speaker 1: like you know, like contact information online, you dex them

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02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:54,879
Speaker 1: docks docks. Yeah, yeah, docs. I thought I thought sculped

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Speaker 1: was getting I mean, I kind of feel like that

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Speaker 1: maybe works better. Really start having Well that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: If he gets scooped, Like as a journal somebody beat

2364
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 1: you to the story or whatever, you get scooped. And

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Speaker 1: that's I think why I said that. But I didn't

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Speaker 1: even really think about it. But scoped, I like scoped better.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's act like that. I was called unawares right, Yeah, yeah,

2368
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Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming. Yeah, like even happened to Trump.

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Speaker 1: You had to do the real Donald Trump because someone

2370
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Speaker 1: else picked up is yeah. Thing all right, man, Some

2371
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Speaker 1: people find you there if you're if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: a big left and you'd like to laugh, we'll check

2373
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Speaker 1: them out. If you're a super right wing guy and

2374
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: you want to be all pissed off and laugh, check

2375
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Speaker 1: them out. Yeah, either way, were welcome either way. A

2376
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Speaker 1: lot of rightway people come to my shows because they

2377
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Speaker 1: get drugged there by their spouse or whatever. And usually

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Speaker 1: usually at the end of the show they're like, I

2379
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 1: didn't agree with the damn word you said. But you

2380
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 1: are funny. Though I like to give you that, I

2381
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Speaker 1: think you'll dig as redneck. Anyway, Thank you guys for

2382
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Speaker 1: having me. This was great. Appreciate it man, good, Yeah,

2383
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Speaker 1: thanks for coming. All right, all on, see your gray

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02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 1: shine like silver in the sun. Right on, all right,

2385
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Speaker 1: all alight on, sweetheart, we're done. Beat this damn horse

2386
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Speaker 1: to death to take it the new one and ride.

2387
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: We're done beat this damn horse today, so take your

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Speaker 1: new one and ride on.