1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field and the 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Packers are getting set for a week two trip to Atlanta. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: It will be a Sunday noon Central Time kickoff against 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: the Falcons and West. This is a Falcons team that 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: there's some excitement brewing down there, not just because they're 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: want to know. I actually did read that at one 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: to oh. This is the first time the Atlanta Falcons 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: have been above five hundred since twenty seventeen, was the 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: year after they went to the Super Bowl, So there 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: is some excitement brewing in Atlanta. They have a young 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: quarterback in Desmond Ritter. They have a young backfield duo 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: and Tyler Algier and first round draft pick b Genre Robinson. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: They spent big in free agency to get safety Jesse 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Bates from the Cincinnati Bengals, who made an immediate impact 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: in his first game and a major impact in his 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: first game for the Atlanta Falcons. Atlanta likes what they've 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: got going down there. And this is going to be 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: a very different and very interesting matchup for the Packers 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: compared to Week one. 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: Well, and don't look now, but you know you got 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: Patterson coming back now too, That's right. You know he 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: had the thigh injury miss last week. He was a 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: full participant on Wednesday, the three headed monster. And you 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: know what stood out to me most in that week 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: three win Week one win, excuse me getting too far 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: out of myself, was the fact that the parallels between 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay and Atlanta and how they won those football games. Right. 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, Jordan Love made a few more plays through 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: the air than Desmond Ridder did. Yeah, but they both 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: played mistake free football and in a certain amount, they 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: both kind of took it to their opposition. For Atlanta, 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: I thought one of the things that was really salient 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: point that guys talked about in the locker room was 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, this football team, the way 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: that they're built. Yes, they're in this quote unquote rebuilding mode, 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: but they've drafted a lot of these guys into their scheme. 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: And it's something that even the assistant coaches last night, 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about on Wednesday, the fact that you know, 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. They have studs everywhere. 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: They've built out their offensive line. They have three good 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: running backs that they can all build off of. You know, 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: you look at the tight end situation with Kyle Pitts 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: and you know, all these weapons that they have Drake London, 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: they've kind of fortified the whole thing. They just got 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 2: to figure out if Desmond Ritter can be the guy 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: that drives this car. But last week, if you win 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: the turnover margin three to nothing and you kind of 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: take it to a team and control the tempo of 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: a game like they did against Carolina, that's the recipe 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: for success in the National Football League. 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it. With regard to the way both 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the Packers and the Falcons won, the two teams combined 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to go plus five yeh turnovers. The Packers won two 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: zero in the turnover battle, the Falcons won three zero 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and Jesse Bates. That three zero was all thanks to 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates. He had two interceptions, he had a forced fumble. 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Those three turnovers led directly to Atlanta's first seventeen points 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: in the game in a game that they win twenty 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: four to ten, and they were actually losing ten to 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: seven in the third quarter when Baits got his second 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: and his third takeaway that led to ten points and 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: then the Falcons were up seventeen to ten and then 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: added a touchdown late to put it away. Reigning NFC 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week, they couldn't have asked more 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: in one game from the big free agent investment that 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: they made on the defensive side of the ball. And 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Love was talking about it after practice on Wednesday, 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: that Baits, you know, he makes his plays. You know, 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: he plays what they call the post or the deep 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: center field at safety, and he makes his plays by 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, reading the quarterback's eyes for a young quarterback, 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you know Jordan Love, and last week it was a 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: rookie making his first start, Bryce Young for the Carolina 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Panthers going up against this Falcons defense. This is a 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: game that's going to test Jordan Love's eye discipline. You know, 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: we've seen on the film how he made some throws 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: last week where you know he is he's trying to 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: look off defenders and then throw the other way. These 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: are the kinds of things that you learn in the 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: NFL when you can sit for a few years, and 84 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: certainly behind a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. It's going to 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: be a test for Jordan Love in that area because 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: if he gives anything away with his eyes, Jesse Bates 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: is going to be there and to try and to 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: try to jump the pass. 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Much better football team overall is what they're seeing this week. 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: You know, that was a great start against Chicago, but 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: I think you listed everybody on Wednesday in the locker room. 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Nobody's resting on their laurels going into this one because 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: they understand the threat on both sides of the ball. 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Looking at Baits, I mean, the Packers have seen him before. 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: AJ Dillon even talked about in the locker room being 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: hit by him before when they played Cincinnati. I was 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: trying to get an end zone. The kid brings it 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: on every single play and he gave them sort of 99 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: a veteran edge that I think this secondary really needed. 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: AJ Terrell is probably one of the better corners in 101 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: this league that nobody talks about. You saw some of 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've checked it out, but like 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: some of the PFF stats, I mean, this guy is 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: one of the best cover corners in the league. But again, 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: kind of like the situation the Packers were in last 106 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: year in Miami. There's a couple of these corners that 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: if they're not flashy and they don't really put themselves 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: out there, you don't hear a lot about them. But 109 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Butterrell's not a guy that you can, you know, really 110 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: look past. Either. Jeff Akuda could potentially be back in 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: this game. You want to talk about hungry guys that 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: have something to prove, you know, He's probably stands chief among. 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: That list redemption story if there ever was one. Yeah. 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 2: And then up front, I mean it's your typical Calias Campbell, 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: you know, with Grady Jared, I mean, just the guys 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: that have been hallmarks in this league of defensive excellence 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: for years. 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: Bud just like Campbell kind of established him self elsewhere. 119 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Now you know, a veteran that's been brought in for 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: this Atlanta Falcons defense. As they they've put some pieces 121 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: you mentioned how they you know, offensively, especially in the 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: offensive line. They've drafted all these guys defensively, they've kind 123 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: of put things together through free agency and picking guys up, 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: and they're trying to, you know, to piece it all 125 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: together and see what they have. 126 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's gonna be where it all comes down 127 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: to and seeing what Green Bay can do and if 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: they can win in the same way as they won 129 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: against the Chicago Bears. But Mike, I will bring it 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: back to the beginning. You're not gonna see a Justin 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Fields type runner this week. But it's going to be 132 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: about staying disciplined against this this multifaceted offense. I wish 133 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: I could remember which guy talked about it, but just 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: looking around and seeing first round pick, first round pick, 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: the amount of resources that they've invested on the offensive 136 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: side of the ball, Now that's gonna be a key 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: because even I wrote about this an insider inbox. Guys, 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna see it here in a couple of weeks 139 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: with Gibbs, and they're gonna see it in this game 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: with Jan Robinson. But when these guys figure out the 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: full gamut of being a running back, they're gonna be 142 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: difficult to deal with and it's gonna be tough to 143 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: get them off the field. Green Bay needs to make 144 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: him look like a rookie in the areas in which 145 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: he's growing, and then when he has the ball in 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: his hands in space, whether it's as a pass catch 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: or a runner, hats to the ball again and making 148 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: sure that they get him down. Yeah. 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, in that backfield you have Tyler Algier, who is 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: a thousand yard rusher, Like. 151 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: Why it a thousand yard season? I think I've ever heard. Yeah. 152 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And he was just a rookie last year doing that, 153 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: so he's a second year running back. Then they spend 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the number eight overall pick in the draft on Bijon 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: Robinson and just the highlights from week one and Matt 156 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Lafleur talked about it too. He makes guys miss, He's 157 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: tough to tackle, and you know, it's one of those 158 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: things that much like we talked about with Justin Fields 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: last week, you have to have everybody rallying to the 160 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: ball when he's got it because there is a good 161 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: chance he's gonna make the first guy miss, and you 162 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: have to have other guys there to help clean it 163 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: up so that a mistackle doesn't rupture into a big play. 164 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: A mistackle just means maybe a couple of extra yards. 165 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Those are the things that will that'll make the difference 166 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: in this game. And it's interesting because as much as 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Love posted one hundred and twenty three passer rating, 168 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter posted one hundred and eleven passer rating, and 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: those were the two highest passer ratings in the NFL 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: in Week one. I think this game is going to 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: come down to the to the ground games for both teams. 172 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: With what with what the Falcons want to do, and 173 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, getting Cordrell Patterson back from injury, if 174 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you can call a you know, six four, two and 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: twenty pound guy a change up running back, but that's 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: what he is, That's what he is in this offense 177 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: because of because of how the style of runner that 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: those those other guys are. And then with the Packers, 179 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Aaron Jones. He missed practice 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday with the hamstring, and and you know the 181 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Packers that elevated Patrick Taylor from the practice squad to 182 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: be the number three running back in the game last week. 183 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: But I think there's gonna be a lot on both 184 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: sides that that's going to be predicated on the running 185 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: game here. And I'm not saying that the Packers necessarily 186 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: have to outrush the Falcons in order to win this game, 187 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: but when you see that the Carolina Panthers rushed for 188 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four yards against the Falcons. You 189 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: got to be you have to find a way to 190 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: do some of the things that they did in terms 191 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: of the way they move the ball, but then obviously 192 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: protect the football because the turnovers is what killed Carolina. 193 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where Bryce Young got into trouble at 194 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: that game, obviously the fumble as well. Corterill Patterson. I 195 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: have so much respect for this guy. The fact that 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: he's in now, what year eleven in the National Football League. 197 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw him in Minnesota. We saw how 198 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: dynamic of a kickoff returner it could be, but he 199 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 2: couldn't find his footing as a receiver. He resurfaces, he 200 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: bounces around, he gets to Atlanta, and they kind of 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: opened up Pandora's box a little bit. And now if 202 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: they call it the joker position, whatever they're referring to 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: him as now, I think with Robinson there, with Elgier 204 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: did last year, that only makes him more dangerous. And 205 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: again I was taken aback when I saw that injury port. 206 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, he's back at practice. It's like, 207 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: oh no, he's a full participant. It's like, okay, well 208 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a game changer here. So Yeah, 209 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, as I wrote 210 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: in our Insider Inbox column, it's going to come down 211 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: to that turnover margin in which team breaks the other 212 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: team's sort of streak here to start the season. You know, 213 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: it's making Ridder make mistakes. Ridder got to play a 214 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,119 Speaker 2: very basic football game against Carolina thanks to the takeaways, 215 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: thanks to his weapons that he had around him. Making 216 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: sure that you can actually make him be more of 217 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: a passer, make him try to make plays beyond ten 218 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: yards downfield. And from Green Bay's perspective, it's taking all 219 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: the things they did well against Chicago and trying to 220 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: elevate them now against the Felcons team that feels like 221 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: it has a lot to prove this season. Yeah. 222 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh, I want to get to a few more 223 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: keys to victory from our perspective, but I'll take care 224 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: of some sponsor business first. 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So we talked about the turnovers, We talked 232 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: about the ground game for both teams, anything else that 233 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: stands out to you that you would put on the 234 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: list of the keys to victory for Green Bay. 235 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: I want to expand a little bit more on Aaron 236 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Jones because at this time in which we're taping this 237 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: before practice on Thursday, we're not sure what's going to 238 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: happen there. He did not go on Wednesday. Yeah, but Mike, 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: he touched the ball eleven times last week and he 240 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: produced one hundred and twenty seven yards. Ninety seven of 241 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: those came in I think it was ninety seven was 242 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: a one O. Three came in the third quarter. Basically 243 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: two series against the Bears last Sunday, he made. 244 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: The two biggest plays of the game offensively, the throwback 245 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: the throwback screen for fifty plus yards and then obviously 246 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: was the receiver on the choice route on fourth and 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: three that not only turned into a huge conversion but 248 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: a huge thirty five yard touchdown. Those are the two 249 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: biggest plays of the game offensively. 250 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: They really were Mike, and that was without one of 251 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: the top playmakers and Christian Watson. So let's see how 252 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: this week goes now Watson also not practicing yet. Are 253 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: they going to have one? Could they have either, may 254 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: not have both? Everything kind of changes on its access 255 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: based on that. Now, Matt Lafleura, the coaching staff probably 256 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: has a decent idea of what their availability is going 257 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: to be. At this point, they'll be able to make 258 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: a game plan work no matter what. But if you 259 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: don't have him, then it goes back to aj Dillon, 260 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: it goes back to a guy like Emmanuel Wilson, possibly 261 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: Patrick Taylor who came up last week. It becomes who's 262 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: the next man up there that can help them make plays? 263 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: And from a receiving perspective, Mike, you know you and 264 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: I talked right before the show began. The Packers had 265 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: the youngest team in the National Football League in Week one, 266 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: twenty five point one to three average years age. Just 267 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: a remarkable shift obviously in one year's time. Well, you 268 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: want to use that youth, you want to use that 269 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: that upside, I mean, and Jayden Reid showed you that, 270 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave, did you realize that stat that I think 271 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: Josh Blank from the NFL put out Luke Musgrave's fifty 272 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: yards relatively modest, you know output in that game. Fifty 273 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: yards was the most receiving yards by a rookie tight 274 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: end in four years. C J. Hockinson, who had like 275 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty one yards is his debut in Detroit, 276 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: but fifty yards just give you a reminder that's uncommon 277 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: for rookies to be able to contribute in that way. Now, 278 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: obviously a chunk of that yardage came off of that 279 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: broken play on Chicago's behalf, but you have to make 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: the plays that are out there, and the Packers are 281 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: going to have to rely on those guys. If Aaron 282 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: Jones is available, fantastic. I would be surprised if he's 283 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: playing thirty snaps or thirty you know, touches. But you 284 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: have to prepare like you have a team that is 285 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: built to excel in different ways. And I think as 286 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: good as that game plan was for the Chicago Bears, 287 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: packers aren't have to come up with something potentially completely 288 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: opposite now for Atlanta. 289 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing that I that I think 290 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I want to touch on here too, and it's just 291 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: it's a repeat of what I brought up last week defensively, 292 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: and it comes down to the tackling. And we talked 293 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: about it so much with Justin Fields, and yes it 294 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: was it was frustrating that Fields escaped so many sacks 295 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff. Right, But but that's 296 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: what he does. I mean that, that's that's what that's 297 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: what makes him the dynamic player that he is. And 298 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's not easy to bring him down. It's 299 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: not he's easy to sack him. And as I said before, 300 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: now you have a guy like Bijon Robinson who is 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: extremely quick and shifty at breaking tackles. And if Corduoll 302 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Patterson is in the mix, that's a power guy that 303 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: is tough to that is tough to bring down with 304 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: one player. And and there are going there are going 305 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: to be mistackles. It happens. You know, the guys on 306 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball are paid not to 307 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: get tackle. That's part of the game, right. But I 308 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: think that you know the differences. Does a mistackle become 309 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: an explosive play or or do you have the guys 310 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: there to still limit the damage when somebody misses the tackle. 311 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: And that's the thing to watch defensively, because Matt Lafleuris 312 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: has has talked all preseason long, through the preseason games, 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, the play style and the aggressiveness on defense, 314 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: and the aggressiveness is not just about it's not just 315 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: about getting in guys' faces, you know, on the perimeter 316 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage to play bump and run, 317 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: and you know, it's not just about blitzing or whatever. 318 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: It's about the pursuit. It's about the way guys go 319 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: after the ball carrier collectively. And if the Packers can 320 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: continue that kind of play style, that's how when there 321 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: is a mistackle, it doesn't end up becoming a big 322 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: backbreaking play. And if the Packers defense can continue that 323 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: style and limit the mistackles and you know, take advantage 324 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: of the opportunities that are there to get those guys 325 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: on the ground, then I think you turn it over 326 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: to Desmond Ritter and can this young quarterback beat your 327 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: young quarterback? And that might be what the game comes 328 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: down to in the fourth. 329 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: Quart I absolutely love the physicality with which the Packers 330 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: defense played against Chicago, because you're right, it is about 331 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: the ball carry, but let's not even look at the 332 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: ball carry. Let's look at where the ball is going. 333 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: You think about that end zone play, that red zone 334 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: play where I mean the Bears kind of telegraph what 335 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: they were trying to do with Cole Comet. Comet goes 336 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: to the end zone basically, you know, initiates the contact 337 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: with Rasoul Douglas, and Douglas doesn't back down, He stays 338 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: right with him, he ends up block. You know, having 339 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: a pass disruption there sort of neutralizes the only real 340 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: threat that the Bears had towards the Green Bay end 341 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: zone that entire game, until, of course, the mop up 342 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: duty late. You have to be able to do that, 343 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: and you know, with jyr Alexander, Rasoul Douglas and Darnell Savage, 344 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: I thought I had a heck of a game that 345 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: probably didn't draw a lot of headlines. But I mean 346 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: ten to eleven tackles and a TfL for negative seven yards. 347 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: I said it to you in the press box, Mike, 348 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: a negative seven yard TfL off a screen on first 349 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: down is as good as a sack. Yeah, it doesn't 350 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: get that little one next to your name on the 351 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: sack column, but that's a huge play. And the Packers 352 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: had defenders that were routinely making those plays against Chicago. 353 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: They have to keep them coming against the Falcons. 354 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. The I think the other thing that will 355 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: be interesting here because this is this is such an 356 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: intriguing matchup and last week's game, you know, with the 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: big plays by Aaron Jones and then the pick six 358 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: by kway Walker. You know, the Packers turn this turn 359 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: turn that game into a runaway if this one, if 360 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: this one comes down to you know, late in the 361 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you've got two very young quarterbacks trying to 362 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: feel their way which one is going to be able 363 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: to execute, to make the plays, to to do the 364 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: things in a you know, whether it's in a in 365 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: a four minute offense situation or a two minute drill 366 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: type of situation in order to get something done. The 367 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: other thing that I think will be really intriguing to 368 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: watch in this game is Rashaan Gary. He only played 369 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: twelve snaps against the Bears. Ten of those were pass 370 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: rush snaps, and statistically, he was credited with seven quarterback 371 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: pressures in ten snaps. Now, of course, you know when 372 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: wind wise, you know, conditioning wise, you're not getting tired 373 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: at all because you're only playing twelve snaps over the 374 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: course of a game, you know, you're your your percentage 375 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: you know likely will be higher. But seven pressures in 376 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: in ten pass rush snaps, like that's insane. And I mean, 377 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see where exactly where Shaun Gary's you know, 378 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: quote unquote pitch count will be now in his second 379 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: game back, and how the Packers want to handle that. 380 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: They certainly rotated all those guys defensively, upfront, defensive lineman, 381 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: the edge rushers. There was a big time rotation going 382 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: on even before you know, the the the late in 383 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: the game, when when the when things were out of 384 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: reach for Chicago. But but I mean, if you know, 385 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: if Rashaun Gary goes from playing say twelve snaps to 386 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: thirty snaps, how big of an impact might he have 387 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: on on this football game? With the way he looked 388 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: coming back in Week one, It's it's kind of scary 389 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: to think about. 390 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: It is the only I will say. And again this 391 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: is just to keep expectations modest. They're going into Mercedes 392 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Benz Stadium, They're gonna deal with the artificial turf. I 393 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: would be I would be surprised if it goes above 394 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: twenty this week. Yet I could see that being the 395 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: case when they get back to Green Bay finally on 396 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: their own their own Turf's good point. But that being said, Mike, 397 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't recall anybody who did more with fewer snaps 398 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: than what Rashan Gary did. And I was so happy 399 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: to see the NFL actually gave him credit for that 400 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: pass deflection when they readjusted their statistics on WEDNESDA. 401 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah you got Yeah, you got credit because. 402 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: He deserved it. 403 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: He broke up that pass. Yeah, he broke up the play. 404 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: And the fact is is that for a guy to 405 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: come out and accept the role that he's been given 406 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: with the understanding of hey, Rashan, we got to get 407 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: through seventeen games. You know, we want you to get 408 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: paid like everybody else we want we want to see 409 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: the big picture here. Though, because I wrote about it 410 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: last week, Mike, this defense is different when Rashan Gary 411 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: is out there. There's a swagger about it. There's a confidence. 412 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: And one thing that Matt Lafleur touchdown that you also 413 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: did too a couple of minutes ago, and it was 414 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: something I asked Jason Rebervich, the Packers outside linebackers coach 415 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: passed for a specialist on Thursday or Wednesday. Excuse me, 416 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: the rotation that they had. Yeah, Preston Smith played about 417 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the defensive snaps. That's never happened, at 418 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: least when he's healthy. 419 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been up in the more eighty percent range 420 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: in most games since since he's been here with Green Bay. 421 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: And they're willing to live with some of the mistakes 422 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: that come with that. Lucas Vennis isn't going to play 423 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: completely clean football, but you saw what he can add 424 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: with his speed and his athleticism. You saw with Justin Hollins, 425 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: the veteran savviness. You touched on it, you know, with 426 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: what you might have missed. I mean things that these 427 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: guys do. To have four pass rushers all have over 428 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: twenty five snaps, and we're not even talking about Rashaan Gary. 429 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: That's what gives me a lot of excitement here about 430 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: what they can do. Last week, Justin Field's tough guy 431 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: to bring down. Very interested to see if you know, 432 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: guys like DeVante Wyatt and Rashaun Gary can get separation 433 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: from their man and go up against a guy like 434 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter, what they could possibly do with those opportunities. 435 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be It's definitely going to be 436 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. A couple other things to touch on 437 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: before we go. First off, I want to get your 438 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on a couple of other Week two games, but 439 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I'd be remiss because I've mentioned it so many times 440 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: in Insider Inbox. One of the things that really excites 441 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: me about this game is I went to the Atlanta 442 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: Falcons website this week and they changed like their background 443 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: to like the red helmets. They're going to be wearing 444 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: the red helmets, I think on Sunday, like the ones 445 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: from my childhood. I absolutely love that helmet. I really 446 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: wish the Falcons had never gone away from it in 447 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: the first place. It's like that red helmet with the 448 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: black bird on it. I just I always, I always 449 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: love that as a kid, and I'm actually going to 450 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: get to see it live and in person here in 451 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: Atlanta on Sunday. I'm fired up, am ready. 452 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: There aren't a lot of things that actually show our 453 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: generational differences, but this is one of them. Because You're 454 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: absolutely right, it's a sweet look. But for me, I 455 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: was a Michael Vick kid. Yeah, So like when I 456 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: think of the Falcons. I think of just jet black, 457 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: those black uniforms with a little you know, red tint, 458 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: because that was Michael Vick running all over everybody for 459 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: a few years. So I'm always I'm partial to that. 460 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: But that being said, it is a good look, and 461 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: obviously it's it's always neat when you get the alternate uniforms, 462 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: whether it's Green Bay or the opposing team. We add 463 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: a different, little little extra flair to a matchup. 464 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Is always yeah, a little more, a little more spice, 465 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: a little more visual to what's going on. Week two, 466 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: I think a big game a lot of a lot 467 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: of NFL fans in general, but certainly Packers fans will 468 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: be paying attention to the Thursday night matchup. The Minnesota 469 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Vikings have an awfully tough task. They lose at home 470 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: in Week one to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a game 471 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: that everybody expected them to win, they did not, And 472 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: now they have the quick turnaround on the road at Philadelphia, 473 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: playing the defending NFC champions in a primetime matchup and 474 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: the Vikings trying to avoid an zero to two start. 475 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: And then the flip side of it is the Detroit Lions. 476 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: They're back at home now in week two, they're playing 477 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: a Seattle team that lost at home in Week one 478 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions. While Seattle's looking to avoid zero 479 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: to two, the Detroit Lions much like the Packers looking 480 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: to start two and oh, and I think just you'd 481 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see where everything is in the 482 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: NFC North after two games here. 483 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: So last week we had the Bears loss against Green Bay, 484 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: and then you had the Giants kind of getting just 485 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: ran out of the building against. 486 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys, putting it mildly, putting it mildly. 487 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: But if it wouldn't have been for that, just speaking 488 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: strictly on the field, not the Aaron Rodgers thing, and 489 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: the Jets actually winning that game, the Seattle Seahawks completely 490 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: lay an egg against the La Rams at home at home. 491 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: And now you got a team that a lot of 492 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: people was expecting to be playoff contender top of that division. 493 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: Now they got questions to answer right off the bat. 494 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of folks were thinking that Seattle is 495 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: really the only team in the NFC West that was 496 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: going to challenged the San Francisco forty nine ers for 497 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that division title. And they lose a division game at 498 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: home in Week one two, a Rams team that was 499 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: miles away from the playoffs last ye Yeah. 500 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: And again it was close early on, but it did 501 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: not end that way. And then for the Philadelphia Eagles, 502 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: one reason I'm excited to watch this game at the 503 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: time in which we're taping this tonight is because of 504 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: Jaalen Carter and the fact that this young man. I mean, 505 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there. We know what happened 506 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: with the draft and everything, but he's a wrecking ball 507 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: and that was already a really tough, physical Philadelphia Eagles defense. 508 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he does against a Minnesota 509 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: interior offensive line that hasn't been perennially known as one 510 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: of the best in the National Football League. 511 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Well, and the Vikings are dealing with injuries up front. 512 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Their center Garrett Bradbury's already been ruled out for this game, 513 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: and then at tackle Christian Darrisaw it sounds like he's 514 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: been listed as questionable I think with his injury. So 515 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the Vikings might be down two starters on the offensive 516 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: line on a short week on the road against a 517 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: team like philadelph and they're trying to avoid starting h 518 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: to two. It's a huge, huge task in front of 519 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings Thursday night to get a win and 520 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: get in the win column in twenty twenty three. 521 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then obviously for Philadelphia's standpoint, Jalen Hurts going 522 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: back into that stadium, I mean, there's gonna be a 523 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: lot of positive vibes. I know they came up short, 524 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: but they still got high expectations for this year. That 525 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: Eagles fan base is gonna be revan ready to go. 526 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I know we don't talk too much about AFC 527 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: games a lot, but I just want to say I 528 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: think the game of the week in the NFL this 529 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: week is one that we're not gonna be able to 530 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: watch because it's gonna be going on at the same 531 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: time as Packers Falcons. But Kansas City at Jacksonville, my friend, 532 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They start out OH to one Jacksonville, who 533 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: was eliminated from the playoffs by the Chiefs last year, 534 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: and you know, they've got Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson's 535 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: got everything going in the right direction in Jacksonville, and 536 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City has to go down there to try to 537 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: avoid an OH and to start for the defending champs. 538 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a really intrigue game. I'm 539 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: definitely going to catch the highlights of that one when 540 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: I have a chance, maybe on the plane on the 541 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: way back from Atlanta. 542 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: We gotta go, we gotta get, gotta get move in here. 543 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: But I want to ask you this quick, because you 544 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: knew him a little bit. Was there ever a team 545 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: we talked about being a quarterback away where I was 546 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: talking earlier about being like Christian McCaffrey away with like 547 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. Yeah, was there ever 548 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: a team that you think was more of a coach 549 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 2: away just in terms of getting the ship righted than 550 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: Jacksonville was with Doug Peterson because we talked so much 551 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: about him with Trevor Lawrence, right, and Lawrence is starting 552 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: to realize his potential underneath the learning tree of Doug Peterson. 553 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: But just the way that that team has played for 554 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: the last year and a half. Now, they're competitive, and 555 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: when they go up against a team like Kansas City, 556 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champion, they're going to be focused 557 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: more on the fact that, yeah, they lost last week. 558 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna be disappointed and they're gonna come out hungry 559 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: in guns of blazon. Doug Peterson. I just you cannot 560 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: say enough of what that guy has done there and 561 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: just changing that culture, and very quickly they went from 562 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: a laughing stock in the National Football League within the 563 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: last what four hundred days to be in a team 564 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: now that nobody wants to mess with. 565 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a team that came back from what was 566 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: a twenty seven to nothing in a playoff game. I 567 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: mean that that team, I'm telling you, they absolutely believe 568 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: they are going to win every single game. And when 569 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: you come back in a playoff game from twenty seven 570 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to nothing, it doesn't matter what the score at halftime is, 571 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: They're gonna come out and believe that they're going to 572 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: beat you. That is the culture that Doug Peterson has 573 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: instilled there, and they have the quarterback that gives everybody 574 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: the belief that it's not just a bunch of happy talk. 575 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: So well, by the way, Kelvin Ridley too, is still 576 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: a pretty darn good receiver. 577 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he can. He can play. 578 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: Thankfully, the Packers don't have to see him this weekend. 579 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he's not in Atlanta anymore. So Packers have 580 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: certainly other guys that they have to deal with and 581 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: it'll be fun to watch on Sunday. So with that, 582 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscript, 583 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: but be sure to follow all of our coverage of 584 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: the team and we will have everything for you from 585 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta on Sunday for the Week two matchup. It's all 586 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: there on packers dot com for Wes, I'm Mike, thank 587 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: you for tune and everybody, we will see you next time. 588 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: M HM.