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Speaker 1: Back from a holiday weekend. Hello Texans, and welcome it

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Speaker 1: to NRG Stadium for the show that gets you plugged

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Speaker 1: in with your Houston Texans Texans All Access. I'm Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermyer with John Harris. Tonight, we got a great show

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Speaker 1: for you. Jermaine Kelly a forgotten man maybe to some

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Speaker 1: in the cornerback classroom, but don't overlook him. Drafted last year.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna catch up with him in segment number two tonight.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later on down the line. Plenty of

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Speaker 1: stuff going on around the league, including a bluff job

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Speaker 1: to get on the Browns roster, and I'll tell my

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Speaker 1: job bluff story from early in my career. We'll do that, Johnny. Happy,

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Speaker 1: return from the holiday weekend, and we've got some things

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Speaker 1: to discuss, don't we we do? Are we gonna? Are

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Speaker 1: we gonna talk about ninety nine getting engaged? Is that

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Speaker 1: gonna be a focal point in the show. No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: But congratulations to Ji. I mean, did the Houston Dash

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Speaker 1: tweet anything out about the bride? They must have. They

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Speaker 1: must have. But she did an interview today. She was

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Speaker 1: at the podium today, so I'm sure she went up

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Speaker 1: to the podium, and it was asked, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, and JJ, will he be at the podium

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Speaker 1: tomorrow when the team has coverage on OTAs he was

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Speaker 1: last week though, right, So I don't know if he'll

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Speaker 1: be up there. Wasn't last week. Oh he wasn't. No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't practice. Oh he didn't practice the way he

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Speaker 1: wasn't up there. Okay, so maybe maybe does or doesn't.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, we'll see. Look. I like the um

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Speaker 1: the engagement stuff. Great congratulations. I mean I expected that

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Speaker 1: to happen. I don't want to say it was you know,

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Speaker 1: was gonna happen. The way he talked about our a

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Speaker 1: year ago when he was coming back from the injury,

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Speaker 1: and how she took care of him. She's a nurturer, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: She's a nurturer. That's big, guys, get yourself a nurturer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can, yes, And uh, she's a very good athlete.

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Speaker 1: So at some point they're going to create bionic kids.

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Speaker 1: They are, they're gonna create bonic kids. Uh. The video

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Speaker 1: he posted a brief video of him them, not really

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Speaker 1: featuring any one of them, but he was making breakfast

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Speaker 1: and you saw the water and the place that we're

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Speaker 1: staying losing insanely nice. But you know, if you're want,

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Speaker 1: you know, why not go to someplace insanely nice yet

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Speaker 1: all right, So anyway, uh, yeah, that's it, colation that

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Speaker 1: congratulations to JJ. We mentioned Jermaine Kelly on the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Now Bart Star passes over the weekend. Yeah, eighty five

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Speaker 1: years old. I know that you grew up as a

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Speaker 1: think the big note to a lot of fans as

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Speaker 1: it relates to today's game is that he still holds

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Speaker 1: onto the all time quarterback rating in the postseason in

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Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. And John I

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Speaker 1: was surprised about this. I feel like I knew this,

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Speaker 1: but I forgot it. And then when you hear it

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Speaker 1: now you're like, really in today's day and age, because

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Speaker 1: is it's like the Dow Jones. You know, it just

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Speaker 1: nine and one all time in the postseason, and he

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. No matter that much, right, right? What was

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Speaker 1: historic about that day? It's the last time that any

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Speaker 1: Chuck ben Nerick played center and middle linebacker in nineteen

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Speaker 1: and he tackled Jim Taylor about ten yards short of

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Speaker 1: Jim Taylor until the clock ran out of Franklin Field,

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Speaker 1: which I always felt in honor to play Franklin Field.

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Speaker 1: Star quarterback and Jimmy Taylor at back. I go through

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Speaker 1: this thing John Harris as a little kid. We need

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Speaker 1: I had all the tribute books and so I learned.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about the sixties Packers through my dad,

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Speaker 1: So I knew of bart star as the player and

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Speaker 1: then as the coach, and he was just so revered

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, Lombardi gets there, he makes star of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and it was one of the

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Speaker 1: met him at the Lombardi Awards. It was the fortieth anniversary,

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Speaker 1: And so we were talking to Jerry Kramer and we

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Speaker 1: He spends maybe ten to twelve minutes with us, and

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Speaker 1: that little tougher now, Yeah, because they want to pick

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Speaker 1: his brain about football. Yeah, but if it weren't for that,

425
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Speaker 1: probably still beyond says, I've probably still choose yon. Yeah,

426
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty much call Russell Wilson right now. Kind

427
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Speaker 1: of nice thanks he'll have for me with a good

428
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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Well, that's Jermaine Kelly and John I said

429
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Speaker 1: it earlier. He's kind of a forgotten man. And this

430
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Speaker 1: whole cornerback mix because we talk about Bradley Roby acquired

431
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Speaker 1: in free agency and you talk about the draft choices.

432
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Speaker 1: But Kelly might turn out to be a very pleasant

433
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Speaker 1: surprise for this team. A lot of guys benefit, even

434
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Speaker 1: though it's unfortunate they get hurt, but if they're around

435
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Speaker 1: the building for a year, they've been through some things

436
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Speaker 1: anyway in the off season prior to that year of

437
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Speaker 1: injury recovery, that might actually help them mature a little bit,

438
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Speaker 1: look around, see what they need to do, and hit

439
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Speaker 1: the ground running in the year two. Nick Martin kind

440
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Speaker 1: of did that your thoughts. Yeah, one of the things

441
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Speaker 1: that I guess, whether the player wants us or not.

442
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Speaker 1: It takes the pressure off a little bit. You kind

443
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Speaker 1: of learn everything at your own rate. Yeah, where everything

444
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Speaker 1: is learn a defense. You don't have to have gone

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Speaker 1: on a field and disprove that or you prove that

446
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Speaker 1: you're the guy, or disprove that you're not, whatever the

447
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Speaker 1: case might be. Just have an opportunity to kind of

448
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Speaker 1: step back, gather a little bit of perspective, realize, I'll mit,

449
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Speaker 1: you miss how much you missed the game, and go

450
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Speaker 1: back out the second year and try and put it

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Speaker 1: all together. Look, some guys, I'd be curious for guys

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Speaker 1: that that's happened to, especially a seventh rounder like Jermaine.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes being a seventh rounder, I mean, there's a guarantee

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make the roster, but you at least stick

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Speaker 1: around for a year, so you learn things. You learn

456
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Speaker 1: where everything is, you learn the defense, you learn all that.

457
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Speaker 1: You go into your second year. Maybe you've got a

458
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Speaker 1: better opportunity to make the team in your second year

459
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Speaker 1: because you have all that going for you because you've

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Speaker 1: you've done all that in the year that you spent

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Speaker 1: on ir. So I'm not saying that that's the way

462
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Speaker 1: I'd wanted to go, but I would have loved to

463
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Speaker 1: have had him last year for sure, because we needed

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Speaker 1: him last year. But I do think going into a

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Speaker 1: second year, yeah, it's not the second year on the field,

466
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Speaker 1: but you're that you're that much further ahead than the

467
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Speaker 1: rookies because you've spent that year diving into the playbook

468
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Speaker 1: and doing all those things. And that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that Jermin's gonna have to get past. It was one

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Speaker 1: of them to come to knocks on him in college,

471
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Speaker 1: being at Washington or standards, they stay, we're injuries. He's

472
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Speaker 1: gonna have to get past all that. And if he does,

473
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Speaker 1: he's a good looking guy. I mean, just on the hoof,

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Speaker 1: just how he looks. I don't think he's got anybody

475
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Speaker 1: fat whatsoever. Can he run and cover that's gonna be

476
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Speaker 1: the key. Really didn't have a chance to see whether

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Speaker 1: you can do that in year one. So if you

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Speaker 1: can do that in year two, come on, everybody to

479
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Speaker 1: the party. Let's go. We'll be monitoring his progress closely. Okay,

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Speaker 1: coming up, We've got a few special things for you. First,

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Speaker 1: I want to remind you about Mike Devlin's football camp

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Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Bill O'Brien's gonna be there, a

483
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Speaker 1: bunch of players will be there. It's at Saint Thomas

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Speaker 1: High School Saturday, eight thirty to twelve thirty. It's one

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Proceeds go to Special Olympics. All the proceeds

486
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Speaker 1: go to Special Olympics. There's a bunch of fun stuff

487
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Speaker 1: going on, so go ahead check it out at Devlin

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Speaker 1: Football Camps dot com. For more information on Mike Devil

489
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Speaker 1: Football Camps Saturday at Saint Thomas High School. Proceeds benefit

490
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Speaker 1: Special Olympics. Devlin Football Camps dot com. What's the highest

491
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Speaker 1: quarterback rating the Texans have ever gotten in a game?

492
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Speaker 1: Who are the highest rating quarterbacks consistently? We'll go over

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Speaker 1: some of the historical performances. This inspired by the bart

494
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Speaker 1: Star all time playoff quarterback rating in history, and that

495
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Speaker 1: got me thinking about quarterback rating. Plus the Browns player

496
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Speaker 1: who fudged his way kind of bluffed his way into

497
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Speaker 1: a tryout and a spot on the ninety man roster.

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss all this and more on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vanjamarin, John Harris with you Texans All Access. As

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Speaker 1: we continue, we were talking about bart Star having the

501
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Speaker 1: all time leading playoff passer rating, all time leading playoff

502
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Speaker 1: passer rating over Joe Montana, over Tom Brady. That's incredible.

503
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Speaker 1: The late Bartstar passed away over the weekend, of course,

504
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Speaker 1: so that got me thinking, what about quarterback rating for

505
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Speaker 1: Texans performances Texans qbs of note like Matt Shop, David Carr,

506
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watsons, Age Rosenfels, Ryan Fitzpatrick, t J. Yates, guys

507
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Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, brought us Swiler, who, by the way,

508
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Speaker 1: never got over one hundred in a quarterback rating in

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Speaker 1: a game for the Texans Dan Waters Wet. Yeah, got

510
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Speaker 1: over ninety only twice. So the feelings that were experienced

511
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: during some of his performances metrically were warranted that he

512
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Speaker 1: just wasn't really getting over the hump statistically exactly. So

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Speaker 1: what is the greatest passer rating any Texans ever had

514
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Speaker 1: a game? Well, okay, here's the one. What's the minimum

515
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Speaker 1: of attempts in this category? Because I first I researched this,

516
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: by the way, so I was thinking twenty five, but

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Speaker 1: if you take it down to twenty de Sean, it's

518
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Speaker 1: just it's Deshanga, it's Miami right on Thursday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was one fifty six perfect because he was sixteen

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Speaker 1: for twenty with five touchdowns and no interceptions. So one

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Speaker 1: fifty six is pretty good. This just yeah, one fifty

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Speaker 1: eight point three is a perfect rating, Right, that's a

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Speaker 1: perfect I don't know why he didn't get perfect. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the yards per attemph we're a little off for perfection.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was shops All right, So Shop,

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny because I was wanting what is it

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Speaker 1: going to be? It's a game that I don't remember. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is O eight. This is the Hurricane Hart and

529
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Speaker 1: Hurricane Ike gear, and this is the Shop beats Miami

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Speaker 1: with the fourth and tend to Andre Johnson the over

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Speaker 1: year Amiah Bell. Then he runs it in yeah, and

532
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Speaker 1: the next week is rosen Fells rosen Coopter okay, because

533
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Shop missed that game because he had a virus. And

534
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Speaker 1: then Shop comes back and they beat Cincinnati at home

535
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Speaker 1: that year and Shob puts up a one forty four.

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Speaker 1: But wait, if I'm gonna go twenty attempts or that's

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Speaker 1: twenty five attempts or more. He had a game with

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Speaker 1: twenty three attempts where they beat Tennessee in lopsided fashion

539
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Speaker 1: and one eleven. This really got the winning streak rolling

540
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Speaker 1: for them. Uh that year they got a seven game

541
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Speaker 1: winning streak going, and he posted a one forty seven

542
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Speaker 1: and that was Arian Foster with the eighty plus year

543
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Speaker 1: No seventy eight yard touchdown reception. They had a number

544
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Speaker 1: of good plays in that game, and he also had

545
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Speaker 1: a pretty high radio against the Titans in two thousand

546
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Speaker 1: and nine in week two in that wild game in

547
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Speaker 1: which they beat the Titans Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, the bad and that was Mario Williams

549
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Speaker 1: and the Titans bench area going nuts or was the

550
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: Titan over there? I don't know. That was um well,

551
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Speaker 1: why battling it out with Scannina for a ball late

552
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Speaker 1: in the game after after a fumble, those two guys

553
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Speaker 1: would have fused the death. Yeah, I mean that was

554
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Speaker 1: That was a great fun game and a win. So

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Speaker 1: that was nice. You have to go with twenty attempts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's go with twenty attempts. So shop it was

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Speaker 1: one forty seven against Tennessee and on the road in

558
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Speaker 1: two eleven because the other game against Tennessee was here

559
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Speaker 1: in the season finale. What was David David's was this

560
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: is weird? David didn't have too many highly quarterback rated games.

561
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: It was in a loss in Gary Kubiak's second game

562
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Speaker 1: and he posted a one forty at Indianapolis in a

563
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Speaker 1: blowout loss. Quarterback rating was one forty three touchdowns, no picks,

564
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Speaker 1: only four sex. But the defense got boat raced by

565
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning that day and I got the champion. I

566
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Speaker 1: didn't look at the whole flow of the game, but

567
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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it was an early

568
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Speaker 1: lead by the Indianapolis Colts at the RCA Dome. Was

569
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Speaker 1: it the RCaH it was It was two thousand and six,

570
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Speaker 1: so it was the RCA Dome, and they got a

571
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Speaker 1: couple of atts to make it look a little bit better.

572
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Speaker 1: But a one forty by car Now Fitzy, I thought

573
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Speaker 1: he was gonna have the record when I was going

574
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Speaker 1: through this because I saved Watson for last, because I

575
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Speaker 1: thought Watson against New England, now that's not gonna be

576
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Speaker 1: it either. One watch it against Seattle, No, that's not

577
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Speaker 1: gonna be it either. When he threw a pick six

578
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Speaker 1: in that game. Not that the six hurt two in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback rating department. But so I looked at Fitze

580
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Speaker 1: and I thought this might hold it. One forty seven

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Speaker 1: point five. And as we all remember, how about the

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Speaker 1: Titans coming up multiple times in this deal, because watch

583
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Speaker 1: it in a really high one against the Titans and

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Speaker 1: the blowout win in twenty seventeen, the fifty seven to fourteen. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: Fitze a one forty seven point five with six touchdown

586
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Speaker 1: passes no interceptions. In twenty fourteen, that was his comeback game. Yes,

587
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Speaker 1: his first game back as the starter. I mean back,

588
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: what is it about that guy? What you should have

589
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: looked up is what was Fitzies in the oh five

590
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: game when he beat the Texans. I should have looked

591
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: that out, and I can look that up pretty quickly.

592
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Speaker 1: But you know what that year, all right? So maybe

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Speaker 1: the following year was that the Jet year In twenty

594
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Speaker 1: fifteen when fits he goes yeah, he goes to the

595
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Speaker 1: Jet yeah yeah, and they go ten and six. Yes, yeah.

596
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Speaker 1: He has a bad game in the finale and that

597
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: cost him to playoff. They played they think the play Buffalo.

598
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: They played Buffalo and that was you know, this game

599
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: means a lot to me. It worked for the Texans

600
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Speaker 1: here at NRG Stadium, but not so much for the

601
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Speaker 1: Jets up in western New York, you know. All right.

602
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: So Sage Rosenfels I saw had some good game he did.

603
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that over the

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Speaker 1: years will get lost is that Sage had some excellent games.

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Speaker 1: The one and I remember more than any others was

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Speaker 1: at Denver Thursday Night game was the Catchup Bottles. That

607
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: was Hey, he had two wins in a row. Tampa

608
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Speaker 1: on a Sunday, and then they played Denver on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And I think Darius Walker started both at running Beasts

610
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Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. So they were running the Koubiak system

611
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: if you look at it. And I remember this well

612
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: because I made a demo tape for the from the

613
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Speaker 1: TV copy matched up with the radio call just in

614
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Speaker 1: case I ever needed it. Yeah, of the opening drives

615
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Speaker 1: of each of those games, and they were just perfect drives.

616
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Speaker 1: They were perfect Kubiak's scripted drives with Rosenfeld's running the

617
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: bootleg and they ran a little, they threw a little,

618
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Speaker 1: and it's just gorgeous stuff. And yeah, beating Denver that

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Speaker 1: that Thursday night they went seven and seven. At the time,

620
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: that was the latest at the time they were ever

621
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Speaker 1: five hundred. It's the last time we're in to catchup bottles.

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Speaker 1: I a good question. It's a good question. The all

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Speaker 1: red red tops, red bottoms. I want to say they

624
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: did it another year, maybe two. Roosenvel's one twenty two

625
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville in O seven in oh seven. Yeah, that

626
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: was shops first year's shop missed a lot of the

627
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: year getting banged up. And that was also the year

628
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Speaker 1: that Sage went nuts with the come from behind performance

629
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Speaker 1: that came up short against Tennessee. That rating isn't quite

630
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Speaker 1: as high because he threw a pick earlier in that game.

631
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Speaker 1: But when you're looking at all time quarterback ratings for

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Speaker 1: the Texans, it's definitely Deshaun Watson against Miami this year

633
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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football five TDS picks quarterback rating one fifty six,

634
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Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure if he was gonna have it

635
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: after I saw that fifth seat number. But he certainly

636
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: does shops best season ninety eight point six. In two

637
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, he led the league in passing yards,

638
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl, MVP of the Pro Bowl.

639
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: But Watson, I mean, Watson just put up a one

640
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: h three. Now, I know quarterback ratings are higher now,

641
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's like the down Jones. They keep

642
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: going up. But Watson as the best in both categories,

643
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: season and single game. Second year in the league. Come up,

644
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: he still tear sex sixty two times. Yeah, that's that's phenomenal.

645
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: And this is why, like we talk about what can

646
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: improve the Texans, a lot of things. Obviously, you can

647
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: always get better but a healthy Watson. You gotta keep

648
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: him healthy and all and the fans know this. Everybody

649
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: knows this. You gotta keep him healthy. But how hurt

650
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: was he and how did that affect certain things at

651
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: certain times despite the fact that they were winning nine

652
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: in a row, you know, because everyone said, well, the

653
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: offense should look better. Well really should they when your

654
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is playing with a collapse along? I'm not so sure.

655
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: But anyway, they were able to win those games. Okay,

656
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: a couple of other things. What about the Cleveland Browns.

657
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: I love this story so much and it's a don't

658
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: try this at home, folks kind of story. But damon,

659
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: she he Giesseppi, who said at a workout that he

660
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: knew Alonzo Highsmith of the Browns and worked his way

661
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: into a workout that way. He was not invited to

662
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: this workout, but he said he knew him. Yeah, I

663
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: know a Lonzo. So he ends up it's at a

664
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: try out in Florida. He ends up running a four

665
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: three eight in the forty. He gets invited to Cleveland

666
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: to try out up there. By the way, he made

667
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: sure that he shook Alonso Heisman's hand so he could

668
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: say now I know him, and he was right. It

669
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: wasn't lying anymore, but or fudging it. He goes to

670
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland does well, he's on the ninety man roster right now.

671
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: And he went to Phoenix College. What is that? What

672
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: is Phoenix College? I think he's a junior college. I

673
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: guess not the University of Phoenix. Not the University of Phoenix,

674
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: because I don't know how that they would put together

675
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: a football team, which would be very interesting. They could

676
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: do a fantasy football team. They could do There's no

677
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: doubt they could do gaming. First of all, if you

678
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: say to anybody this, he must have done some research. Yeah,

679
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the millions of people that could go yeah, yeah,

680
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: I know Alonso. I mean everybody knows Alonzo. Everybody knows Alonzo.

681
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: Alonzo sees everybody. I got to I got to meet

682
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: him when he was living here as a He was

683
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: a scout executive with the Packers, and so I got

684
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: to know him, I mean ages Ago, and we hit

685
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: it off right away because they had all these hurricanes,

686
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: of course, and he had it. I don't know if

687
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: you saw this. Bruce Feldman did a great article on

688
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: Mannidas at the University of Miami, and they were trying

689
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: to can they ever find the swagger again? That was

690
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: the whole thing, Can they find the swagger again? And

691
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: so Mannida has interviewed Alonzo high Smith and got the

692
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: definition of swagger. It was phenomenal. It was phenomenal because

693
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: it was so complete, coletely not what you would expect.

694
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: It was essentially, swagger is essentially going out on the

695
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: field when there are no coaches there, running another two

696
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: gassers after practice, making sure that with no coaches there,

697
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: that you're doing the right things all the time, doing

698
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the things that are not It's not being tough right,

699
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: not being able to back it up right at it's

700
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: doing all the little that you have to do. It

701
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: was it was a phenomenal quote. But everybody knows Alonso.

702
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: So this guy is saying that, Yeah, I know Alonso.

703
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were like, oh, okay, well come on in.

704
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Then he d a four three eight. Yeah, that's phenomenal.

705
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever bluffed anybody like that,

706
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: but you have, Well, I I kind of did. My

707
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: first full time radio job was in Clearfield, Pennsylvania, which

708
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: I've I've talked about this place a lot some mill

709
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: nowhere the mountains in central western Pennsylvania, still about fifty

710
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: minutes to an hour away from State College, but it

711
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: feels farther than that when you live there anyway, in

712
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: the mountains. So the radio station is actually really cool.

713
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: It's a town of maybe ten thousand people, but this

714
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: but with all the mountains, you don't get too many

715
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: signals in there. So when you're on the station, they

716
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: probably have an eighty share in the town. You know,

717
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: you are an automatic known commodity in the town. Anyway,

718
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: I get the job there. All I want to do

719
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: is sports, but they need they have a need for

720
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: a DJ and news guy. I'm like, I do all

721
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: that stuff. So I made them a demo tape. Now, Johnny,

722
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: I had never been a DJ before, but I had

723
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: a four track recorder because I'm a musician, So I

724
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: made a hell of a demo tape. I'm like, that

725
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: was Stephen Knicks with you know, like I've made Stephen

726
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: Knicks single lead for Fleetwood Mac where we had the

727
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: next up Jackson Brown here and you know, I did

728
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing and I talked up to the post

729
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: and that's an industry term, but you know, you talk

730
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: right up to the vocal, and that's how they wanted it,

731
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: and I made it. I made it exactly to what

732
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: they would want, what they wanted to hear. And I

733
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: had a newscast. I've never done a newscast. I've done

734
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: sports cast, but now, which is simil Okay, I could

735
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: fudge my way through a newscast. So I did that.

736
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: So my demo was perfect. My demo was perfect. I

737
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: get the job. Now we're talking like two hundred and

738
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a week, so let's not freak out here.

739
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: But I got the job. And when I got there,

740
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, then there are the turntables, and I'm like,

741
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: oh boy, what do I do with these? I mean,

742
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because DJ turntables are a little

743
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: bit different, queueing up records, talking up the love vocal

744
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: play in the spots. You know, they thought I had

745
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: done all this stuff, and so I'm I'm asking the

746
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: guy who does the shift before me, like all right.

747
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: So he's like, huh, I mean this is the equivalent

748
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of like, how do you turn on the toaster? Okay,

749
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm seriously I and luckily, luckily this guy was really cool.

750
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: All right. You know, A week. Two weeks in, it's

751
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: not going perfectly okay, but you know, maybe they hear

752
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: some potential. The general manager and the program director pulled

753
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: me into the office and they play me my demo tape.

754
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: They're like, this is what we had in mind. So

755
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew I was not pulling it off.

756
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: He said, but we do like you and we'll work

757
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: with you. Let's go. So you know, within a you know,

758
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: a few days, I had the base six down and

759
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I just kept going. But I bluffed my way through

760
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: that first couple of Louis because I wanted the best

761
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: thing was I got to do sports, you know, and

762
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: I had to do all those other things in order

763
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: to do what I really wanted to do. And by

764
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: the way, side note, when I got there, the general

765
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: manager was really the play by play guy for the

766
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: high school games. He said, you can do the third quarter.

767
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I moved from Boston to Clearfield, Pennsylvania to

768
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: do the freaking third quarter of the football game. But

769
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, this is a good lesson for

770
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: young kids. It was the best thing that ever happened

771
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to me because this guy was on me. He was

772
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: actually a good play by play guy, and his favorite

773
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: was Gil Santos, who was doing Penn State at the time.

774
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: He did Penn State on the radio and he was

775
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: doing the Patriots. Yeah, they used to fly Gil in

776
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the New Penn State. Anyway, he was on me. He

777
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: would pick it up. You know, He's giving me all

778
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: these hands signals and and really the energy was huge

779
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: for this guy to have that, among other things, and

780
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: he really got me better. It was It was a

781
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: blessing that I only did the third quarter because I

782
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: got to hear him and I got to have him

783
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: boss me around. He was one of those guys, like

784
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: a coach, that you hate while you're playing for him,

785
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: but afterwards you'll love him because he made you better.

786
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of guys like that in life,

787
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of teachers like that in life. Well, teaching,

788
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: that's I remember when I applied for my first teacher,

789
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: I never taught. My parents were both teachers, and so

790
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: I put that in my cover letter to the principal

791
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: um my late friend Dale Reagan. I put that in

792
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the letter. I said, I've never taught before. I'm just

793
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I didn't not bluff my way through it. Yeah.

794
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: They actually made me come and teach during my interview.

795
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Oh very cool. That's smart on their part. And go

796
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: up there, and so they tell me to teach the

797
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: graphic calculator and I'm like done. I got off the phone.

798
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: I called my mom. I was like, Mom, I've never

799
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: used the graphic calculators, a graphic calculator, never used it.

800
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: I spent all day in Jacksonville hotel trying to learn

801
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: how to do that thing, and then walked in like

802
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. Wait, wait, give me

803
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: the one sentence definition of a graphic calculator. You essentially

804
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: can graph parabolas and lines and all these different mathematical

805
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: equations with a graphic calculator. Okay, you can make whatever

806
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: you say. Yeah, you can draw these kind of different pictures.

807
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: My mom used to be a graphic calculator. How her

808
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: kids do a project and draw something with all the

809
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: mathematical functions. She was way, look, I know where the

810
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: plus sign of the multiplication sign is. That's all I need.

811
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: It took me a while to find those things, so

812
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I didn't bluff my way through it. I was straight

813
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: up bonest about it. But man, that was But I

814
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: love this ground story I do so good. It's so

815
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of fake it to you make it ish uh.

816
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: And and it's you know, it's Bud Fox. It's find

817
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: your way into the office somehow. It's find your way

818
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: into the room somehow. And then and then you better

819
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: make the most of it, because you know, this could

820
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: have failed spectacularly, but you know what, he would have

821
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: had a great story no matter what. But what if

822
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: it fails. I mean, who cares it fails. He's on

823
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: the right man, Rice right now. He could write a

824
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: book on this, I know. I mean he runs a

825
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: four eight. Who cares he walks out of there. Nobody

826
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: knows who he is, but he knows he can run. Yeah,

827
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: I'll go run five an asset that will warrant me, Yes,

828
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: something you will pay attention to me, You will pay.

829
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Alonzo will pay. And that's the thing about Alonzo. He

830
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: can find talent anywhere anywhere. I mean he is He's

831
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: one of the best talent evaluators. Like he would pick

832
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: my brain about certain players, and I would talk about

833
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: him and I could just hear kind of in his

834
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: brother like yeah, yeah, he's pretty good. Huh, he's pretty good.

835
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean he just the way that he handled it.

836
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: He can find talent and can he write, because I

837
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: want to read the book on the Browns after this

838
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: thing fails. No, just kidding, Alonzo. I hope it doesn't

839
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: for your sake, But anyway, that's gonna do it. For

840
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: tonight's show. Tomorrow, we're gonna be on the field at

841
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: OTAs and we'll give you a complete report. You'll hear

842
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: from the head coach and a whole lot more tomorrow

843
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: at six. Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans.