1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: This is Steve Schmidt with the warning I'm here in Paris. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Earlier today I was at the Normandy Landing Beaches, standing 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: on Juno Beach, in the museum on Juno Beach, remembering 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the sacrifice of Canadian forces, standing in the cemetery this 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: morning in Benny, Sir Mayor, Canada, of course a nation 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: and ally threatened by Donald Trump, our neighbor to the north, 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: where there is no knock in the night on the 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: door this evening. There are different categories of Democrats across 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: the country, and I'm very pleased to be able to 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: bring to you a fighting Democrat, one of the finest 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: members of a rising generation of leaders, Congressman Jake Oachincloss. 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: A serious man with a serious message, who's going to 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: talk to about the full range of issues that he's 14 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: engaged in. Of course, he is a member of the 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: House Commerce Committee. It is the most powerful of congressional 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: committees with jurisdiction over anything to do with interstate commerce. 17 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: He is a Marine major, a veteran of the Marine 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Corps fighting in Afghanistan. In Hellman Province, Congressman Arkincloss, there 19 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: is a famous chesty puller quote. He said they're on 20 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: their left, they're on the right, they're in front of us, 21 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: there behind us. 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: They can't escape us now. 23 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: And many times he pointed out, from a position of 24 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: being surrounded, his gratitude that his foes would be unable 25 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: to escape, as he was ready to attack in any direction. 26 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: So with that, we could talk about the measles, we 27 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: could talk about Pete Hegsath. But I was with Betow 28 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Rourke last week in Tulsa, Oklahoma, an event with nine 29 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: hundred people, and one of the things that he pointed out, 30 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: there had been a measles death in twenty years in America, 31 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: and there's been two since January twentieth. So let me 32 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: kick it off to you there and talk about the 33 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: urgency of the public health crisis that's building because of 34 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: the quackery that's loose in the federal government, and talk 35 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: about whatever you wish, but this is obviously an urgent moment. 36 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: People are dying, damage is being done. How do you 37 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: see it, sir? 38 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: Measles was declared eradicate it in the year two thousand 39 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: in the United States, and now we have a politician 40 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: bringing back a disease that scientists had cured. He's doing 41 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: that by running natural experiment. He ran his first natural 42 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: experiment in Samoa in twenty nineteen, in which he derailed 43 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: their measles vaccination campaign with a mixture of conspiracy and quackery. 44 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: Eighty three individuals in Samoa died, the majority of them 45 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: were children. And now RFK Junior is running his second 46 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: natural experiment in the American Southeast where he is shipping 47 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: vitamin A instead of MMR vaccines to unvaccinated or under 48 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: vaccinated communities, and we're seeing children die of measles. Meanwhile, 49 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: Steve I can't get my Committee Republican Colleagues on Energy 50 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: and Commerce, which has jurisdiction over RFK, to even so 51 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: much as hold a hearing to ask him if maybe 52 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: he wants to recommend the MMR vaccine, the most effective 53 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: medical invention of the last hundred years, to parents, or 54 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: if perhaps it was a bad idea to fire the 55 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: FDA's top vaccine specialists during a measles outbreak, or if 56 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: he should consider fire the senior staffers around him, who 57 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: all of them are running businesses on the side that 58 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: are regulated and reimbursed by thems N FDA. 59 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you do you have any knowledge about the vaccine 60 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: status of any of your Republican colleagues kids. Do any 61 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: of those members have unvaccinated kids concerning the measles vaccine? 62 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: Do any of them proudly say there's no way my 63 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: kid would ever get the measles vaccine. 64 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: Here's the challenge, Steve. It's a good question. It's not 65 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: that RFK says I myself would not get the MMR vaccine. 66 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: And it's not necessary that my Republican colleagues said I 67 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: myself would not get the MMR vaccine. What they do 68 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: is they hide behind this. Oh, I'm just asking questions, Mantrevi. Listen, 69 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: people are saying, not me, but people are saying that 70 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: the MMR vaccine causes autism. Meanwhile, that's the single most 71 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: debunked scientific theory of the last twenty five years, based 72 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: on a fraudulent twelve person study in the late nineteen 73 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: nineties that has been ripped to shreds by any scientists 74 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: with two neurons to run together. But they just point 75 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: to it. Hey, I just want transparency. I just want 76 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: to ask some questions. What that does is it pumps 77 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: uncertainty into the public. And when you need ninety five 78 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: percent of the community vaccinated to have hurt immunity for 79 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: measles because it is so contagious, you don't need very 80 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: much uncertainty to get to a place where communities lose 81 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: hurt immunity. Who does that hurt? That hurts the kids 82 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: who are medically compromised and can't actually get the MMR vaccine. 83 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: It hurts that five percent who really do need the 84 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: medical exemption from the vaccine. Now they're exposed because the 85 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: nation's top health official is allowing a measles vector to 86 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: spread irresponsibly. 87 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: When you talk about these people with their businesses, and 88 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: we talk about the immense wealth and privilege of all 89 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: of these people who are doing this, I'd like to 90 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: point out drove across the country last month from Palm 91 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Springs through al Paso to Fort Worth to Vicksburg, up 92 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: through the Natchez Trace to Tupelo to Nashville in Mississippi, 93 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: for instance, one of the few places in the country 94 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: where you're regularly going to see a syphilis billboard. So, 95 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: as a moral proposition, do you ever say to your 96 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Republican colleagues that this what's happening impacts disproportionately poor people 97 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: who are misinformed and then sentenced to die, and we 98 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: have kids dying, and you can stop it, and might 99 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: you consider doing that? And I just wonder, right there 100 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: is and I'd be inclined to yell. You are a 101 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: marine officer who has dealt with the full menagerie of 102 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: the human personality under the most difficult and stressful moments, 103 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: including foreign personalities, and I'm just wondering, how do you 104 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: approach them at a psychological level as a marine, as 105 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: a congressman, as an American to do the right thing? 106 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: What's the approach? 107 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: Two things. One to your first question, we have been 108 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: very clear as Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee 109 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: that we hold not just RFK but Congressional Republicans personally 110 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: accountable for every measle's death in this country because they 111 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: could stop it if they wanted to, and it's on 112 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: them and they are on the record now is denying 113 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: a hearing to put RFK himself on the record. But 114 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: number two, you asked about where do I apply lessons 115 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: from military strategy to this moment that we're in. One 116 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: thing that marine officers learn is the concept of a 117 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: center of gravity and a critical vulnerability. Think of the 118 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: center of gravity as like the kneecap, and the critical 119 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: vulnerability is the back of your knee. The idea is 120 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: is that in general, your opponent's strength is also an 121 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: indication of their weakness. And the reason I say that 122 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 3: is what RFK Junior and CALLI means, and that crew 123 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Mark Himen their center of gravity is corruption. They've gone 124 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: out and argued that chronic disease in this country is 125 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: driven by the corruption of pharma and big food tied 126 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: in with regulators, and he stood in front of the 127 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Food and Drug Administration's career scientists and called them soft 128 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: puppets for industry. That center of gravity also tells you 129 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: what their critical vulnerability is because they themselves are corrupt. 130 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: They are projecting their own corruption onto the civil servants 131 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: who are here to keep Americans safe and healthy. Onto 132 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: the civil servants whose job it is to detect toxins 133 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,479 Speaker 3: and eye drops and keep you from getting a corneal transplant. 134 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: Who are they to detect and help with lead in 135 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: the water supply like this happening in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, right 136 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: These individuals are corrupt themselves. CALLI means is out there 137 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: running tax laundering HSA business and the same time is 138 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: changing benefits design at HHS to help his own business. 139 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: You've got Brad Smith, the head of Healthcare DOGE, whose business, 140 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: Main Street Health, is regulated and reimbursed by CMS. He's 141 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: in charge of hiring and firing his own regulators. They 142 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: all have special employee exempt status. There's no transparency or disclosure, 143 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: and there has not been a single ounce of oversight 144 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: from Congressional Republicans over this. 145 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Do you have the ability in the minority to compel 146 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: a cali means to testify before the committee. 147 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: We're working on that right now. The short answer is, 148 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: can I get a subpoena? 149 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: No? 150 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: I can't. We need Congressional Republicans to vote for subpoenas. 151 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: But we are not without tools and without influence, right 152 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: and we need to start using the bully pulpit afforded 153 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: even to a minority on these committees in the same 154 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: manner that Judiciary has started to do to put the 155 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: spotlight on the self dealing and corruption of these individuals, 156 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: because ultimately where they are vulnerable is in their private 157 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: sector interests, and we cannot allow them to take on 158 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: this mantra of fighting corruption when the only thing they're 159 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: doing is bringing back infectious disease and enriching themselves. 160 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: When Democrats when an overwhelming majority in the House in 161 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: this next election cycle, and you are sitting in the majority, 162 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: will you be able to compel the testimony of Cali 163 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: Means and all of the people around Robert Kennedy under 164 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: oath before the Commerce Committee. 165 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: See we will peel the bark off of these individuals 166 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: in the majority. 167 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: What message do you have for these people who have 168 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: a lack of imagination that with each day the horizon 169 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: lurks closer and though it cannot yet be seen, it 170 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: is coming. 171 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: It's the same message that RFK issued to FDA scientists 172 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: when he told them save your records and pack your bags. 173 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Same message to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. 174 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: We are going to hold him accountable for his quackery, 175 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: his conspiracy, and his corruption. 176 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: At what point do you look at this through a 177 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: moral lens, through your training as a marine officer, and 178 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: say this is a form of crime that I would 179 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: regard this if I was in the HHS bureaucracy and 180 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm implementing illegal orders that are in the end going 181 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: to cause human suffering, and I'm doing so willfully that 182 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm complicit in something here that I would be held 183 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: accountable for, and that through an ethical lens. This is 184 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: a disaster that we're seeing across the board. But we're 185 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: going to be teaching ethics in a way that we 186 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: haven't talked about it for a long time, certainly not 187 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: in your lifetime, and you've been trained in the matter. 188 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: I just would love to hear you talk about ethics 189 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: and they're collapse and the responsibility that each person has. 190 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: If you're a government employee and you're chaining up a 191 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Canadian actress like she's Hanibal Elector and treating her like 192 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: she would be treated in Putin's Russia, and you think 193 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: that you will do so, and the day will never 194 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: come when the American arm of justice doesn't reach out 195 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: for you. It's either I'm badly wrong about my assumptions 196 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: on something and I'd like you to clarify them for 197 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: me because my faith is misplaced, or I'd like you 198 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: to set a lot of people right out there who 199 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: can't seem to also see that over the horizon is 200 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: a moment where people are going to be answerable for 201 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the things that they did and following orders of RFK 202 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: and CALLI means. 203 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: Won't cut it. 204 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: I agree with you, Steve. I think the area where 205 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: this is most immediately pressing is actually not in HHS though, 206 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: It's in the Department of Justice, and it's with the 207 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: return of mister Garcia from El Salvador. Because the administration 208 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: wants to make this issue a question about border security 209 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: or about immigration, and you and I both support a 210 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: strong and secure border. We support this as a nation 211 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: of laws where people have to have an orderly process 212 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: to become citizens. We support deporting criminals after due process. 213 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: What we also support, though, is the very core notion 214 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: of American freedom. If your feet are on American soil, 215 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: you get to stand in front of a judge against 216 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: the awesome power of the state and trust that the 217 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: facts of the matter will be considered with impartial application 218 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: of the law. And this administration has admitted that they 219 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: deprived somebody on American soil of due process and of 220 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: habeas courses. That does an assault upon freedom, not just 221 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: his freedom, but all of our freedom. He is now 222 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: threatening to do that for what he calls homegrown problems. 223 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: The other word for homegrown, Steve, is citizen. He's threatening 224 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: to do this against citizens of the United States. And 225 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: when this judge, and I think this is going to come, 226 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: begins to issue orders of civil and criminal contempt against officials, 227 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: they need to know that they cannot be protected by 228 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: the deer leader. That whether it takes five years or 229 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: fifteen years, any official who disobeys a court order will 230 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: be held to account for it. 231 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: When you think about the immorality around the world of 232 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: American food aid rotting on shelves, the medicine not being distributed, 233 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: that will cause death, that will lead to political instability, 234 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: that will lead to all manner of atrocity and adverse 235 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: outcomes for the security of the country. When you look 236 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: at the damage being done in this moment. I got 237 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: the Governor of Michigan hiding in the oval office. That 238 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: was her instinct under fire and that can't be unseen 239 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: and it's not your responsibility to explain it. Got Gavin 240 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Knew some calling anybody who said what you just said 241 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: about mister Garcia a sheep, and they don't understand that 242 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: we can only talk about one thing today, and that's 243 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: got to be the tariffs, because today is today that 244 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Gavin has decided, well, I'm going to come off the 245 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show and the Steve Bannon Show, and I'll 246 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: show a different side of the show, and I'll do 247 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: the lawsuit show, And so I won't meet the fight 248 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: where the fight is needed to be met. Instead, I'll 249 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: maneuver a bit around tactically. 250 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: Right, So, in this whole deal, right. 251 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Now, I want to envision something, right. I want to 252 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: envision you being president of the United States four years time, 253 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: coming in on January twentieth, and looking ahead right to 254 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the damage that will be done between tomorrow the beginning 255 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebrations, the start 256 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: of the American revolution and the end of Trump's arm 257 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: all the damage that will be done, all the alliances 258 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: that will be free, all of those things. What is 259 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: going to need to be set to the world and 260 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: to the American people in the aftermath. And what is 261 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: the first thing that will need to be asserted about 262 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the people who did this, who are screaming down the 263 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: American people, calling an innocent man without evidence, and terrorists 264 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: from the Oval Office chaining people at the border, disregarding 265 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: their civil rights. 266 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: What will need to be said? 267 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: The next president will need to recommit America to freedom, 268 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: The four freedoms, free enterprise, free minds, free elections, and 269 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: freedom from fear. And the next president is going to 270 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: have to build back Americans' faith in those four freedoms 271 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: through a concrete agenda that ranges from supporting the rule 272 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: of law to ending corporate capture in Washington, d c. 273 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: To holding politicians accountable to election reform, to ending the 274 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: attention fracking of social media corporations that has polarized our 275 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: society and eroded our sense of civic discourse, to unlawed 276 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: and unleashing American builders and doers to get stuff done 277 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: in this country. It needs to be an agenda of freedom. 278 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: Because Americans know what democrats are against. They know we 279 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: stand against Donald Trump, and we do have to rally 280 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: to that banner, but they also need to know what 281 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: we are for, and we are for freedom. 282 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to pretend i'm your chief of staff. 283 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: And so the Olive archs have come for your inauguration, 284 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: and they've been stuffed over at the EEOB where they've 285 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: been waiting in a small and terrible room with a 286 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: lemon cleansing scent for many, many hours, and you are 287 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: now ready to see them. And so there was a 288 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: premise about these tech companies going back, oh say, fifteen years, 289 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: the motto of Google being do no evil, and Facebook 290 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: this is harmless, all of it. And so they have 291 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: bared their teeth at the American eagle. As FDR said, 292 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: they have tried to clip the wings of the American eagle. 293 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: Not an army of. 294 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Fifty thousand, not legions, a small number of billionaires who 295 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: have conspired to take something that does not belonged to them. Historically, 296 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: when this has happened, when there has been through what 297 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: FDR calls this inventive genius of man, this formation of 298 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: new monarchies, new dukedoms, we smash them, we break them up. 299 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: And tomorrow is the two hundred and fiftieth shot. Ye 300 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the shot heard around 301 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: the world. Talk to me as I bring them in 302 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: to the Oval office. What you're going to say to 303 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: them about what's about to happen to their companies and why? 304 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: Because I believe it will be an occasion for honesty 305 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: and transparency, unless I have that wrong. 306 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: I would divide them into two different groups. The first 307 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: group would be the health insurance and social media executives 308 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: and that conversation would be short and it would be brutal. 309 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: I would tell the health insurance executives that their days 310 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: of price gouging Americans, of abusing pharmacists and physicians and nurses, 311 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: of jacking up premiums and copays are over, and that 312 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: their days of profiteering off of high health care costs 313 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: are behind us. As Americans, they have been bleeding the 314 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: economy dry, and now we are going to bleed them dry. 315 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: And then I would tell the social media corporations that 316 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 3: they have become the wealthiest and most powerful corporations in 317 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: the history of the world by turning our children's attention 318 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: span into products to be sold off to the highest 319 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: advertising bidder, and that we are going to sanction and 320 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: tariff them in a manner that cuts their digital empires 321 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: down to size, and that we are not going to 322 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: allow their screen time to rob our family time any longer. 323 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: Then I'd bring the rest of the businesses in and 324 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: I'd say, I don't care if you're a big business. 325 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: I want business to be succeed successful in America. I 326 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: want small businesses to become big businesses. I want big 327 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: businesses to pay their workers well and to create new products. 328 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: That's what we are. We're a proud capitalist, market oriented society. 329 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: But you're going to play by the same rules as 330 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: everybody else in this country, plays by small businesses and 331 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: workers alike. You are not getting any more special treatment. 332 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: In Washington, Prime Minister Carney brought you up right now 333 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: and said, Parliament needs to hear from an American. What 334 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: do you say to the Canadian Parliament? 335 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: That the American people in January did not wake up 336 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: and decide that Russia was their friend, in Canada was 337 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: their enemy. That the United States and Canada have the 338 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: longest undefended border in the world because we are core allies, 339 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: not allies of convenience, not economic allies, but allies with 340 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: shared values. And that no amount of inanity and abuse 341 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: from the White House is going to change the cultural 342 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: ties and the democratic ties between our two great peoples, 343 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: and that this too shall pass. 344 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Where's the first place you take the plane to a 345 00:23:53,320 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: foreign country to start the tour as President of Reconciliation. 346 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: My first phone call is to Canada, which is traditional 347 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: for American presidents. The first plane trip is to Nigeria. 348 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: I think Nigeria is going to be the third biggest 349 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: country in the world. By twenty fifty, half its population 350 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 3: is under the age of eighteen. It's a media and 351 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: cultural and economic dynamo already and becoming ever more so. 352 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: But the Global South, of which Nigeria is one of 353 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: the cornerstones, has been ignored, not frankly just by the 354 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: Trump administration, but by a lot of previous administrations and 355 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 3: our ability. I think to get Nigeria linked into and 356 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: building on top of the United States operating system as 357 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: opposed to the Chinese Communist Party operating system would be 358 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: a bell weather for the rest of the Global South. 359 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: Talk about your affiliations in life and what they mean, 360 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about three. I want to 361 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: talk about four of them. Specifically, you are a United 362 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: States Marine What does that mean to you? 363 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: Officer? Candidates for the United States Marine Corps walk by 364 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: a statue with the simple statement leadership by example exam 365 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: That's right, and that to me is the core of 366 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: it is. Whether it as a leader within my office 367 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: of my staff, whether it is as a representative of 368 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand people in the halls of Congress, or 369 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: whether it is as a leader in public service. My 370 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: example has to be one that I would feel proud 371 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: of being emulated. 372 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: What does it mean to be a member of the 373 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: United States House of Representatives? And the first time you 374 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: walked under the Capitol through Statuary Hall as a member. 375 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: Steve, I grew up with the portraits of the founding 376 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: Fathers on my bedroom wall. I didn't have athletes and musicians. 377 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: I had James Madison and Franklin and Hamilton and Washington. 378 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: And so you can imagine walking into the House Chamber 379 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: and seeing the grand portrait of the signing of the 380 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: Constitution and what that means to me and the privilege 381 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: of a lifetime it is to get to be the 382 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: voice and vote for fellow citizens, especially at this tumultuous 383 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: time in our history. That was the first time I 384 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: walked into the Capitol. The second time I walked into 385 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: the Capitol, though, was January sixth, twenty twenty one, and 386 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: there I saw an insurrection against our constitution. And I 387 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: saw Republicans then walk back into that chamber and step 388 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: over glass in order to vote against the certification of 389 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: an election that they knew was far and fair. And unfortunately, 390 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: what that has left me with is a deep cynicism 391 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: about the ability of my Republican colleagues to ever stand 392 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: up to Donald Trump. They are not going to do 393 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: the right thing by following their conscience. They're going to 394 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: do the right thing because we beat them. 395 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: So I agree completely. History teaches us that two of 396 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: the greatest institutions in the history of the world in 397 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: terms of the advancement of human dignity and freedom, or 398 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the Republican Parties and the Democratic Parties of the United 399 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: States of America. These two institutions that form a duopoly. 400 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: That drive. 401 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: A lot of reciprocal craziness. When I look at the 402 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: Republican Party, it became a shell and then the vessel 403 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: of a new rising fascism. And so this former Republican 404 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: now fully embraces as a member the Democratic Party right 405 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: as a vessel of not America's perfections, but of the 406 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: possibility of redemption from America's gravest sense. And so I 407 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: wanted to ask, what does the Democratic Party mean to you? 408 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: As someone who's not yet forty but is already a 409 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: leader of it, will become a greater leader in it 410 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: and a more important voice in terms of defining it. 411 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: What does the Democratic Party mean to you? 412 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: It's what the Democratic Party means to me right now, 413 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: and what the Democratic Party could be. What the Democratic 414 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: Party means to me right now is the bulwark for 415 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: the rule of law, the constitution, and individual freedom against 416 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: the authoritarian impulses of Donald Trump. But that fight, if 417 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: we're being candid and self reflective, that fight has exhausted 418 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party. We have put all of our energy 419 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: and all of our power behind wrestling with this would 420 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: be dictator. And it's a righteous fight, and we need 421 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: to do it, but it has exhausted us, and it 422 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: has depleted us of new and big and bold ideas 423 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: for the future. And so what the Democratic Party has 424 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: to do right now, and this is a challenge, is 425 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: on the one hand, we do have to fight Donald Trump. 426 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: We have to contest his abusive power, and we also 427 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: have to explain to the American public what we would 428 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: do with power should we be given that power, because 429 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: Americans will vote for the party or the individual that 430 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: they understand what are you going to do? On day one? 431 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: And right now, Americans know what Democrats are against righteously, 432 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: we're against Donald Trump, but they don't know what we're for. 433 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: And that is why I think we need to become 434 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: the Party for Freedom, the Party for free elections, meaning 435 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: not just that the elections are not rigged, but that 436 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: every single politician, every single election cycle stands before voters, 437 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: and those voters have a real choice about whether that 438 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: politician is going to get sent back to officer right now, 439 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: because right now, thirty five out of four hundred and 440 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: thirty five seats in the House of Representatives are contested. 441 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: The other four hundred are not. In a general election. 442 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: Democratic Party has to be in favor of free enterprise. 443 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: We've got to build stuff in this country. We got 444 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: to build nuclear power, in housing, in thousand tech Bolk 445 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: high schools, and more ships than the Chinese Navy. Got 446 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: to cut the regulations that make it too hard to 447 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: do that, and we got to stop the corporate capture 448 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: of Washington that is locked in rules that help the 449 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: big guys but not the little guys. This party has 450 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 3: to be in favor of free minds. Free minds, we've 451 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: got to reject the cancel culture of the left, and 452 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: we also have to fund the science and the education 453 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: that allows people to truly explore the questions that can't 454 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: be answered and make life worth living. We are the 455 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: Party of Freedom, that is our agenda going forward. 456 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the morale crisis that I 457 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: think is coming in the US military, and I think 458 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: it's acidic. I think then most people don't begin to 459 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: comprehend it. But Donald Trump is injected to pancreatic cancer 460 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: and to institutions that whatever imperfections they may have, and 461 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: they certainly have them, but are based on codes of honor. 462 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: And this is a two hundred and fiftieth anniversary year 463 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: of the US Navy, the US Marine Corps, the the 464 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: US Army, all being celebrated this year. In these institutions 465 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: and the entire training of the military, is I comprehended. 466 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Is we're going to teach you about authority by teaching 467 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: you about responsibility and connecting these things to the concept 468 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: of accountability. And the whole ethos of the military, particularly 469 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: the naval services, is built around accountability. For the captain, 470 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: it's inescapable, it's unavoidable, it's faded. If you take that authority, 471 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: what comes with it is accountability. And the Trump doctrine, 472 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the dogma which is always true in all autocratic systems 473 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: is that responsibility and accountability are inverse propositions. That the 474 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: more responsibility you have. The less accountability you have, the 475 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: less responsibility you have, the more accountability you have. Right, 476 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: so you can have one of the greatest intelligence failures. 477 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: You have the giving up. 478 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: And this really hasn't been talked about, but you understand 479 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: this just from basic common sense. Steve Wikoff and Moscow 480 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: during a military operation against an Iranian proxy force, gave 481 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: away the position of the planes and the carriers during 482 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: the attack on unsecured communications. There's no accountability whatsoever. 483 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: And so in. 484 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: Any environment where you add up favoritism plus favoritism of 485 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: outcomes and the denial of accountability. 486 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: As a dogma, and then right we come. 487 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Into graduation season, right where Trump will speak to a 488 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: service academy where the entire education has been a refutation 489 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's life, where Pete Hagseth will go speak 490 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: at one of the service academies. How does all of 491 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: this accrue in four years time? Because the US military 492 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: is going to be a very damaged institution within the 493 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: next couple of years, or tell me that I'm wrong 494 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: about that. 495 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: I have the great privilege of getting to nominate young 496 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 3: men and women in my district to the United States 497 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: Service Academies West Point, Annapolis Coast Guard. In fact, just 498 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: this morning I called a young man who was going 499 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: to the United States Naval Academy and Steve, these kids 500 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: are so impressive, it's enough to give you hope for 501 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: the future. I mean, he's like a three letter varsity athlete. 502 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: He's three to nine GPA. He's volunteering, he's in leadership 503 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: development courses, and he wants to he wants to dedicate 504 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 3: at least the first part of his career to the 505 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: United States, and he can do a lot of other things. 506 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: And I see that story over and over again. That 507 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: gives me hope that the United States military can withstand 508 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: the depredations and incompetence of these senior leaders. But to 509 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 3: your point, they face significant threats. The first threat is domestic. 510 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 3: I tell all these young men and women on the phone. Remember, 511 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: you do not swear an oath to a political leader. 512 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: You do not swear an oath to a party. You 513 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: swear an oath to the Constitution of the United States. 514 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: And young officers get that. But the cabinet and the 515 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: Trump leadership, as you said, clearly do not. That is 516 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: a major threat to the United States military and it's 517 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty year tradition of nonpartisan constitutional duty. 518 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: The second threat we have is that the United States 519 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: military globally has long been viewed, as we used to 520 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 3: say in the Marine Corps, no better friend, no worse enemy. 521 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 3: And the problem with this junior varsity squad, whether it's 522 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: tag Seth or Rubio or Walls or Gabbard, is that 523 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: the Russians and the Iranians and the Chinese, they think 524 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: we're a joke. I mean, you know, the Russians, they're 525 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: bad people, but they're not idiots. The people that Putin 526 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: is sending to negotiate are heard and apparatchicks who have 527 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: spent twenty five years in global negotiations, and they're looking 528 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 3: across the table at Hegseth, at Witkoff, and they're saying, 529 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: we used to deal with real people. When the Americans 530 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 3: said something, we took it seriously. We used to and 531 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: this is not a democratic Republican thing. Both administrations used 532 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: to do this. We used to deal with real people. 533 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: And now we're looking at this guy who ran two 534 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 3: small nonprofit veterans organizations into the ground, who can barely 535 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: take care of himself, much less a three million person military, 536 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: and this is the guy we're negotiating with. I mean, 537 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: it's humiliating, and you are right, it's gonna be. It's 538 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: gonna damage our reputation, but it's gonna be these young 539 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: officers that I talked to on the phone. It's gonna 540 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: be these young officers who help us resuscitate it. 541 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: When you're kind of sitting there right now in this moment, 542 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: how do you think Trump escalates the situation from here 543 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: and over the summer. Meaning we start today with where 544 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: he is with the Fed chair, Let's take it to 545 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: Labor day. 546 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: What do you see happening. 547 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 3: I'm always reluctant to prognosticate about this guy and his machinations, 548 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: but let me put forward this general theme I think 549 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: on the economy, and whether that means tariffs or Powell, 550 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: I think what we will see is that the bond 551 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: market is going to be the biggest check on his 552 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: worst impulses. That's what happened with his initial trade tariff 553 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: rollout the ten year treasury bond market a week treasury 554 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: auction that was sort of the Emperor has no close 555 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: moment for him. Now we have a debt limit ceiling 556 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 3: coming up. We've got much more treasury auctions coming up. 557 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: And when Bessent looks at a weak treasury auction and 558 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: he looks at yields going in the wrong direction, that 559 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 3: is going to be I think a significant check on 560 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: Trump's maneuverability within the economy. The area that I see 561 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: him going truly off the rails is on immigration. Immigration 562 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: has always been back, since back in twenty fifteen till today. 563 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: Immigration is the fundamental driver of the MAGA movement and 564 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: of his appeal to his base. And I expect we're 565 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: going to see more cruelty. I expect that we're going 566 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: to see more lawlessness. I expect that we're going to 567 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: see more xenophobia in his approach to immigration. As his 568 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: public approval on his economic handling, as public approval on 569 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 3: his foreign policy handling start to deflate, as civil society 570 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: starts to demonstrate solidarity and opposition to him, He's going 571 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 3: to double down on the one area that got him 572 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: elected in twenty sixteen that I would argue got him 573 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 3: elected in twenty twenty four, and that is immigration. He's 574 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: going to use immigrants as scapegoats. 575 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any worry about him federally deputizing as 576 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: marshals any elements of extremist militias. 577 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: So under the Insurrection Act, you can squint and look 578 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: at the legal paths to do that. It would be 579 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 3: litigated immediately, it would require compliant governors, so it would 580 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: probably be more of a red state phenomenon, probably a 581 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 3: border state phenomenon, but absolutely, I mean, this is part 582 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: of the authoritarian playbook, right. You try to fully the courts, 583 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 3: the media, and opposition politicians, and then you try to 584 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: co opt other forms of organized violence in society outside 585 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 3: of the state driven military, in order to create a 586 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: culture and climate of fear. 587 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: What do you as we have about ten minutes left 588 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: and I want to just give you some time to 589 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: just talk about whatever you. 590 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 2: Want to talk about. 591 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: But what do you say to the lead of big law, 592 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: for example, which to me at the first instance of 593 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: testing at really a ludicrous set of claims that you 594 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: give me an absurdist amount of money and as opposed 595 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: to saying, okay, I really don't want to be in 596 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: litigation here, but he gives me no choice. 597 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: They all surrender to him. 598 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: And so you have the people in the country at 599 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: high levels, leading law firms, leading media, companies that are 600 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: the first to capitulate, right, the people that have the 601 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: most right are the first to get in line, and 602 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: ordinary people are the first to get in the getting 603 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: screwed line. And I just wonder how you process across 604 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: the depth of it all, the total capitulation right, and 605 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: lack of willingness to really fight back and to stand 606 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: up not because you want to fight, not because you're aggressive, 607 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: but you're compelled to fight back against the aggression being 608 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: waged against you. And so as a marine officer, right 609 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: you've thought about fighting. 610 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: I just how do you frame all of. 611 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: This in this moment with so many people, When I 612 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: think you look at and say, well, obviously you should fight, 613 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: have chosen to say nah, not me. 614 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: The first rule of contesting an authoritarian regime is do 615 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 3: not obey in advance. When you obey in advance, you 616 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 3: induce more of the autocratic behavior. And what we are seeing, thankfully, 617 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 3: is not total capitulation. I would challenge that, actually, Steve, 618 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: you are seeing capitulation from some of the law firms, 619 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: Paul Weiss most notoriously, but you are seeing litigation and 620 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 3: fighting back from firms like Wilmer Hale and my expectation, 621 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: my hope, my work is that we have to create 622 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 3: cross sectoral solidarity. And this is a playbook that has 623 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 3: worked well in other countries that are dealing with this scenario. 624 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 3: Is it's not simply good enough for one law firm 625 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: to join the anarchist brief for another law firm. What 626 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: you need is for business executives and law firms and 627 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: universities and nonprofit leaders and social service providers and politicians 628 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: both in the opposition and in the ruling party to 629 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: lock arms. But to do that requires discipline, and this 630 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 3: is something I think democrats have to be careful of. 631 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 3: Democrats over the last fifteen years have had a habit 632 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 3: of saying we believe in ten things, and if you 633 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 3: agree with us on nine things, there's the door. That 634 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 3: is not the moment we are in right now, right now. 635 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: To build this solidarity, we have to say, fundamentally, it's 636 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 3: about one thing. It's about saying no to Donald Trump. 637 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: And if you're an evangelical voter and you agree with 638 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: us on nothing else besides that, welcome in. We're going 639 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: to work with you right now. We'll disagree later, but 640 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: we're going to work with you right now. And the 641 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 3: same thing with the business community and the legal community 642 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 3: in the universities. We disagree on a whole host of stuff. 643 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 3: We need a single tent poll that we can build 644 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: a wide tent on. But it's got to be one. 645 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: It cannot be this this all or nothing approach that 646 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: Democrats too often have taken. 647 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: Who is the greatest Democratic leader in the history of 648 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: the country. 649 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: So the Democratic Party was founded in eighteen twenty eight 650 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: by Andrew Jackson, So it's two hundred years of history 651 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 3: now to look at. I don't think there's just one. 652 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: I think I should have made it your favorite. Let 653 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 3: me give you two answers, which I know is not 654 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 3: technically allowed, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Let me 655 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: give you two answers. The first, and I'm channeling him 656 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 3: when I talk about the four Freedoms, is Franklin Delana Roosevelt, 657 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 3: because he took America at a moment of depression and aggression, 658 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: and he rallied the country to our strengths, and he 659 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 3: talked about the four Freedoms, and he rallied not just Americans, 660 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 3: but really the world to these four freedoms. Democrats have 661 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: to recommit to four freedoms now for the twenty first century, 662 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: not for the twentieth century. The second, though, is actually 663 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 3: not a Democrat at all. It is the Whig Party. 664 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: And the reason I say the Whig Party is that 665 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 3: the Whigs were the party that defeated Andrew Jackson and 666 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: his crew. And Andrew Jackson was the original MAGA. Andrew 667 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 3: Jackson in the eighteen thirties is the politician who really 668 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 3: fused Christian nationalism with economic populism in a way that 669 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 3: was the prologue to the MAGA movement. And the Whigs 670 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 3: beat him with a hard sider, log cabin campaign that 671 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: did not attempt to be diet coke to the Coca 672 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 3: Cola of Jacksonianism, but offered its own vision for economic 673 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 3: development and rule of law in this country. And we 674 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: have to channel those Wigs and the hard sider and 675 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 3: log cabin campaign that they ran to defeat Donald Trump 676 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 3: and to offer a new agenda. 677 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people out there are afraid and. 678 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 2: Nose. 679 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: Small member of small membership of this community falls in 680 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: that category. So I just want you to close it 681 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: out with whatever you'd like to say. But you know, 682 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: if you could, you know, just mentioned fear for a 683 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: moment and how to deal with it. It's something you've 684 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: had to deal with. And you know, I was always 685 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: taught that, you know, courages the is not the absence 686 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: of fear. It's the idea that there is something more 687 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: important than that fear, something that's worth fighting for. And 688 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: so over to you, Congressman, thank you very much for 689 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: being with us tonight. 690 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 3: Steve, thank you for having me on. Fear is something 691 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 3: that people do alone. Courage is something that people do together. 692 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 3: And that's why we as Americans need to rally together 693 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: to not let fear stifle who we are as Americans 694 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 3: and the kind of lives we want to pursue under 695 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: the Constitution. But rally rally, but rather join together to 696 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 3: give one another courage. 697 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's a perfect place to end it. 698 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: Congressman Jake Elkin Laus, thank you very much, and everybody, 699 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us tonight. And I'm Steve Schmidt. 700 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: This is the warning I invite you to join this 701 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: community where I promise to be honest, blunt and direct 702 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: about what is happening in this country. America is in crisis. 703 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: Follow and subscribe to this channel and on substack. 704 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: Thank you