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Speaker 1: your hosts Jim Margolis, James Began, and Josh Nelson.
Speaker 2: Hello, folks, welcome to you a new episode of The
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Speaker 2: your host, Josh Nelson, and this is a special edition
Speaker 2: episode as the twenty twenty six Major League Baseball trade
Speaker 2: deadline is just a few days away, and we are
Speaker 2: expecting the Chicago White Sox, who are still in first
Speaker 2: place in the America League Central, to be active to
Speaker 2: make some type of move before the deadline. In this episode,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be pitching some ideas that I have
Speaker 2: the White Sox could pursue before Monday's deadline. Again, the
Speaker 2: deadline is Monday, August third, five pm Central Time, and
Speaker 2: joining me to look over as far as by trades
Speaker 2: and hopefully doesn't judge them too harshly. A Sox Machines
Speaker 2: managing editor Jim Margulus, and hello Jim, it's exciting to
Speaker 2: be on the other side. It's been a while contemplating
Speaker 2: how the White Sox could add before the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird, it's scary, it's frightening. I you know,
Speaker 4: what is worth? What is value? This context is new
Speaker 4: and alienating to me.
Speaker 2: Well, we do have some news. So first case for
Speaker 2: the Detroit Tigers has already been scratched from his start.
Speaker 2: The Tigers will not start him until after the deadline. Now,
Speaker 2: there is some speculation because his fastball velocity was dipping
Speaker 2: in his previous start for the Tigers. So maybe Maz
Speaker 2: gets traded. Maybe it's for injury reasons. Maybe it's both
Speaker 2: to make sure he doesn't get hurt and that really
Speaker 2: hurts his ability to get moved. But the other big
Speaker 2: name right now, and this comes from Joel Sherman out
Speaker 2: in New York. He tweeted that the New York Mets
Speaker 2: are scratching Freddy Peralta. With interest picking up from contenders.
Speaker 2: Maybe the White Sox could be one of those contenders,
Speaker 2: as many of the contending teams are looking for starting pitching,
Speaker 2: and even though Freddy Peralta appears to be having a
Speaker 2: career worst year with the New York Mets and he
Speaker 2: is a free agent after this season, teams will pursue
Speaker 2: Freddy Peralta, and maybe the White Sox would be one
Speaker 2: of those teams, hoping that he catches a second win
Speaker 2: and is just as effective for his new team as
Speaker 2: he was for the Milwaukee Brewers last year. But Jim,
Speaker 2: before we really get into my trade ideas and kind
Speaker 2: of rip them apart, let's look over the White Sox
Speaker 2: shopping list. It's still starting pitcher and catcher, right, those
Speaker 2: are the two primary needs I think.
Speaker 4: So definitely starting pitcher, I think that's at the top,
Speaker 4: just with the amount of innings the bullpen has had
Speaker 4: to cover, with Eric Fetti being carefully managed, with Noah
Speaker 4: Schultz not being able to go five innings regularly, Davis
Speaker 4: Martin not being able to go past five all that
Speaker 4: often as of late. Really it's Sean Burke being the
Speaker 4: one starter can go six, then everybody else is more
Speaker 4: or less. Get them past the halfway points, and it's
Speaker 4: more or less where there starts come to an end.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think starting pitching is probably number one,
Speaker 4: or definitely number one. I should say they do have
Speaker 4: a couple of stopgap options in the miners. They traded
Speaker 4: for Jose Keaty, who's been on a roll in Triple A.
Speaker 4: There's some question about whether his post second Tommy John
Speaker 4: surgery stuff is actually good enough to retire major league hitters.
Speaker 4: It could be the kind of thing where he's a
Speaker 4: kitchen sing approach that works well against Triple A hitters,
Speaker 4: but against major leaguers he's running against the same kind
Speaker 4: of issues that's limiting the other pitchers on the staff
Speaker 4: to like five innings. There's also Jonathan Cannon, who's been
Speaker 4: pitching better as of late, and he's somewhat known, and
Speaker 4: when he's effective, he can go five six innings. You
Speaker 4: have David Sandlin, who's probably more along the lines of
Speaker 4: Noah Schultz when it comes to trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how he can get the lineup multiple times. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think having a veteran starter that will venable doesn't
Speaker 4: have to think about opening four or pulling the plug
Speaker 4: on after eighty pitches because he knows like the t
Speaker 4: top is going to have some ugly in store for him.
Speaker 4: I think is probably number one catcher. They did sign
Speaker 4: Eric Haas, who's right now Rake in Charlotte's he drove
Speaker 4: in five or six runs on a Thursday. He's been
Speaker 4: He briefly caused a stir when he left the game
Speaker 4: early because of dehydration. So everybody is champing at the
Speaker 4: bits to get him in the lineup as quickly as possible,
Speaker 4: even though he's bounced around, because he is this classic
Speaker 4: third catcher, you know, he serves a purpose and hes
Speaker 4: of being a veteran guy. But asked too much from
Speaker 4: him and he ends up on the DFA pile. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of the circle of life for him. But
Speaker 4: he is I think a better option, or at least
Speaker 4: a gives you a better sense of what he might
Speaker 4: be able to provide at the plate versus Drew Romo
Speaker 4: or Edgar Carroll, like the combination of Romo and Carrol,
Speaker 4: because he can kind of go back and forth between
Speaker 4: which one of those guys is actually doing a worse
Speaker 4: job at a given time.
Speaker 2: If the White Sox trade activity is just jose Yerkidi
Speaker 2: and Eric costume, is that sufficient.
Speaker 4: It would be disappointing. I think there's a wide range
Speaker 4: of guys who could help, or at least their presence
Speaker 4: could signal we tried something like Freddie Peralta, for instance,
Speaker 4: having a terrible season. He would be a rental. You
Speaker 4: don't want to look at what he did with the
Speaker 4: Mets and say we can fix him and rush to
Speaker 4: give up somebody of value. It's more like the trade
Speaker 4: the arrays makeoff and where we'd like we have somebody
Speaker 4: who's blocked three times over. We're coming up on a
Speaker 4: forty man crunch. You know, at most to give up
Speaker 4: that kind of guy. But he if Peralta showed up
Speaker 4: and it was just Peralta, at least the front offics
Speaker 4: say we added a picture who might be able to
Speaker 4: do something. We have one idea for. The idea might
Speaker 4: not work, but if it doesn't, we can at least
Speaker 4: look back and say we tried something. We brought in
Speaker 4: an external possible solution for a known problem. All the
Speaker 4: other prices we balked at because it just wasn't worth it,
Speaker 4: but at least we did something. We had something to
Speaker 4: show for our off season. I think it reminds me
Speaker 4: a little bit of twenty two twenty and although the
Speaker 4: circumstances behind that season were considerably different due to the
Speaker 4: pandemic and the shortened season, everything like that White Sox
Speaker 4: got off to a hot start, look like, oh, it's
Speaker 4: everything's coming together earlier than anticipated, and then they started
Speaker 4: tailing off at the end. And over the course of
Speaker 4: the trade deadline that was weird. Rick O Antario wanted
Speaker 4: to starter the front office. They said they convened with
Speaker 4: you know, rick con had this way of saying, like,
Speaker 4: we're going to meet with you know, ten people. We're
Speaker 4: going to talk to Dallas Kichel and Yasmani Grandal and
Speaker 4: Josea Bray, you and Ron Kittle, and you're just basically
Speaker 4: bringing in all sorts of people, say we all agreed
Speaker 4: on this. And the the more he'd invoke that, the
Speaker 4: more he was like, he's just kind of differing responsibility,
Speaker 4: and you know, it just seemed like he brought in
Speaker 4: so many people that just led to inaction, and in
Speaker 4: this case that deadline, they said, well, you know, we
Speaker 4: talked it over and we have faith with the team
Speaker 4: that we have and so we're not going to shake
Speaker 4: it up too much. And they brought in Jira Dyson,
Speaker 4: and that was all they had to show for. It
Speaker 4: was like a pinch runner, defensive replacement, very specific use case,
Speaker 4: and Rick Rentrio wanted a starter. And sure enough, you
Speaker 4: get to the postseason and you have Rick Rentick Rhea
Speaker 4: bent over at the hips with his hands on his
Speaker 4: knease because he's trying to get his team through a
Speaker 4: opener slash bullpen game, which he never practiced because he
Speaker 4: hated openers and hated the idea of bullpen games. And
Speaker 4: he tried to get something more in the front office
Speaker 4: and give it to him. And then you look at,
Speaker 4: you know, years later, in hindsight, well that was one
Speaker 4: of two good opportunities they had with the core that
Speaker 4: they had built. And so I think you at least
Speaker 4: want to try to throw something at one of those
Speaker 4: known problems, so you know, years down the line, when
Speaker 4: you're looking at missed opportunities, you can at least say, well,
Speaker 4: we tried something which is better than what the White
Speaker 4: Sox did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: That is a very good history lesson to learn from
Speaker 2: for Chris Scats because I think if it's just your
Speaker 2: Kidi and Haas, that's an f for Chris scats. That's
Speaker 2: not enough to add to your team to outlast Cleveland
Speaker 2: and Minnesota. Jim, I just I just don't think it is.
Speaker 4: I would call it maybe like a D D minus
Speaker 4: like HAS is something like based on the catchers available
Speaker 4: and depending on the price that they command and Kevin,
Speaker 4: how many teams are looking for catchers. I could see
Speaker 4: HAS being you know, not meaningfully different from you know,
Speaker 4: like Freddy for Mean or anybody else we've talked about
Speaker 4: who might you know command next to nothing or you know,
Speaker 4: that's that's all you're looking to add to the position
Speaker 4: if you have Kyle Teal coming back and you're still
Speaker 4: planning on Kyle Teal being around for you know, three
Speaker 4: or four year window. So I would say HASP qualifies
Speaker 4: as something but for the position of less need or
Speaker 4: like the the you know, if if they're they're one
Speaker 4: basically they're basically one starting pitching injury away from having
Speaker 4: a crisis. So I think that's what you want to do.
Speaker 4: You want to throw a body at the situation to
Speaker 4: where your Orkidi is not the your loan hope should
Speaker 4: to go down. Or Jonathan Cannon given the up and
Speaker 4: down season he's had and basically everything's happened since a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago in terms of his staying power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if has is that guy, I would just like
Speaker 2: to see him with Chicago right now. So that's just
Speaker 2: how I feel. So that's where the White Sox are
Speaker 2: listeners as we're recording this, And this is always a
Speaker 2: gamble when we do these types of episodes because of timing.
Speaker 2: I have to stop what I'm doing and get it
Speaker 2: published immediately because we don't know if there's breaking news
Speaker 2: and we have to record a whole new episode as
Speaker 2: an emergency podcast. So please play along. As far as
Speaker 2: with my trade ideas, some of them may come to
Speaker 2: fruition and some of them are incredibly long shots, and
Speaker 2: that's where we're going to start with trade idea number one. Jim,
Speaker 2: for me, this is the longest shot. And as far
Speaker 2: as trying to figure out a trade package that would
Speaker 2: entice his team to move this particular player, I'll admit
Speaker 2: I'm grasping at straw. So my offer is this is
Speaker 2: the most I'd be willing to offer if I was
Speaker 2: in Chris Gatz's position to acquire this starting pitcher. And
Speaker 2: my trade idea number one is Redebt Merse with the
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Angels. The more I look into Debt mers One,
Speaker 2: I forgot that the team that trades for him or
Speaker 2: the Angels hold on to Debt Merse. They have team
Speaker 2: controlled through the twenty twenty eight season. So it's more
Speaker 2: than just through the twenty twenty seven season, which I
Speaker 2: originally had thought. No, this is two years plus the
Speaker 2: remaining of the twenty twenty six season. He's having a
Speaker 2: career year. He's already hit a milestone. This is his
Speaker 2: first three war season. According to vangrafts dot Com, his
Speaker 2: strikeout rate last year coming out of the bullpen was
Speaker 2: very impressive. He was striking out batters at a thirty
Speaker 2: percent clip back to a starter, and he's still striking
Speaker 2: out batters at a twenty eight and a half percent clip.
Speaker 2: Only Grant Tailor of all current White Sox pitchers, has
Speaker 2: a higher strikeout rate than Redebt mer Sean Burke right
Speaker 2: now is at twenty seven point seven percent for that
Speaker 2: strike rate strikeout rate, And if the White Sox were
Speaker 2: to acquire Debt Merse on paper, they are starting rotation
Speaker 2: be led by start three pitchers who have three war
Speaker 2: or better. This season, and Davis Martin, Seawan Burke, and
Speaker 2: of course readebt Merse. This is where I'm going. I'm
Speaker 2: expecting a lot of pushback. What I would offer if
Speaker 2: I was in Chris Getz's position, I would send to
Speaker 2: the Angels Billy Carlson, last year's first round pick, Hagen
Speaker 2: Smith the year previous first round pick, and Jonathan Cannon
Speaker 2: kind of is an extra piece of this trade. So
Speaker 2: if the Angels needed a starting a pitcher to get
Speaker 2: through the rest of the season, Jonathan Cannon can do that.
Speaker 2: And this is where I flipped the table around or
Speaker 2: swing it around and Jim share me your thoughts as
Speaker 2: far as this particular trade offer idea for the White
Speaker 2: Sox to get Readdebt Mers.
Speaker 4: I had to think about it for a while because
Speaker 4: there are a few different ways to look at it
Speaker 4: or approach it, depending on your first impression of it.
Speaker 4: Like you look at it, you see Carlson and Smith,
Speaker 4: you see, oh, that's two first round picks. That's a
Speaker 4: lot for Debt Meers, especially since Debt Meers has He's
Speaker 4: come back a little bit, but he's had an up
Speaker 4: and down season to where like he started off then
Speaker 4: got into a real hot streak, and now I think
Speaker 4: he's leveled off into this, you know, very you know,
Speaker 4: credible mid rotation starter. Still, if he's starting game win
Speaker 4: or game two of a postseason, might feel a little
Speaker 4: bit itchy, but at least he misses bats and you
Speaker 4: kind of understand why he would be there. The thing is,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it from the angel side, and it
Speaker 4: feels like maybe just a little bit lights or at
Speaker 4: least if they're trying to drum up competition, I wonder
Speaker 4: if they could shop it around and beat it. Just
Speaker 4: because you're looking at Hagensmith right now, is he a starter?
Speaker 4: Like hard to say that he is at this point.
Speaker 4: You know, he might be a very good left handed reliever,
Speaker 4: might be a excellent bullpen weapon. And I certainly saw
Speaker 4: him throw a great inning against Nashville, just you know,
Speaker 4: right in front of me, a sitting behind home plates
Speaker 4: taking some photos. And yet like the fastball, cutter slider
Speaker 4: combination in short bursts, gets some ugly swings and some
Speaker 4: late swings, some tough foul balls. So as a bullpen weapon,
Speaker 4: certainly think he's has a lot of attractiveness. I think
Speaker 4: when it comes to him being a starter, and like
Speaker 4: looking at Hagen Smith as a Debtmer's replacement in the rotation,
Speaker 4: I don't think you're quite getting that. And then Carlson
Speaker 4: is just he's not a lottery ticket at this point.
Speaker 4: I think he's more known than that. He's having a
Speaker 4: decent season, especially around a hand injury. Like I think
Speaker 4: he's been producing pretty well even though he doesn't have
Speaker 4: a homer yet. The defense is as advertised so far,
Speaker 4: So I think you look at him and think like
Speaker 4: that's a worthy project or a worthy guy to add
Speaker 4: to a pharm system and give a lot of leeway
Speaker 4: too on a lengthy development timeline. You don't expect great
Speaker 4: things from him, don't attach a whole lot of expectations,
Speaker 4: as this is the guy we got cut for debt merse.
Speaker 4: He has to hit, but you just look at how
Speaker 4: far away he is. He's still in Kannapolis, and it
Speaker 4: just feels it's a lot for the White Sox to
Speaker 4: give up. But it also feels like it could be
Speaker 4: beaten by a team that just has maybe a starter
Speaker 4: that they could give up and feel okay about, or
Speaker 4: a infielder who's blocked maybe at the double A level
Speaker 4: and can ultimately feel okay because they're getting a starter
Speaker 4: from next two years.
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's the best that I would be
Speaker 2: willing to go. And that's why again, like Redebt Merse
Speaker 2: I think would be a great addition for the White Sox.
Speaker 2: I know there's some pushback from White Sox fans. You
Speaker 2: don't think Redebt Merse is all that great, but just
Speaker 2: looking at the landscape for controllable starting pitchers, Jim, it's incredibly,
Speaker 2: incredibly limited. It's really whatever the Angels have that teams
Speaker 2: think is actually available in Redebt Merse and Jose Siano
Speaker 2: and I feel like as far as the controllable starting
Speaker 2: pitchers out there, debtmers is the best option. But maybe
Speaker 2: the White Sox are a little too hesitant because to
Speaker 2: your point, giving up our twenty twenty four and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five first round picks, that's kind of a gut
Speaker 2: punch to the farm system, and they keep preaching about
Speaker 2: long term development. But I do think you make a
Speaker 2: good point. Whoever doesn't win the Trek schoolbul sweepstakes, so
Speaker 2: they turn around and they call the Angels maybe they
Speaker 2: can beat whatever the White Sox offers. So that that's
Speaker 2: why I feel like, ultimately, while this would be a
Speaker 2: good fit gym, it is a very long shot that
Speaker 2: the White Sox and Angels would be able to make
Speaker 2: this deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like if you're the White Sox, you'd
Speaker 4: do that just because Deptmers is what you wanted Hagen
Speaker 4: Smith to be for two years good point. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: then so that's kind of you're upgrading over that and
Speaker 4: kind of upgrading over Cannon. You know, Canon's a good
Speaker 4: throwing I think I think a team would be happy
Speaker 4: to have him as a third player, perhaps, like they
Speaker 4: could use him right away given the way he's throwing away.
Speaker 4: He's throwing right now in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: So that was my line of thinking, was like, here
Speaker 2: you lose Debt Merse, here's Can and he can pick
Speaker 2: up his starts.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I think like det Meers is, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're looking at would you rather have Reaed, Debt
Speaker 4: Mars or Higginsmith on the White Sox the next two years?
Speaker 4: He probably say Dept. Mars just because you need a
Speaker 4: starter for those two years. And then it becomes a
Speaker 4: matter of like how much would you regret giving up
Speaker 4: Billy Carlson? And I think you could get by without him,
Speaker 4: given the just drafted Rock Schelowski, given that they have
Speaker 4: Caleb Bonnomer, given that Coulson's again, they have a whole
Speaker 4: lot of infielders right now, and so I think you
Speaker 4: can get by with taking a shot that Carlson won't
Speaker 4: become like the Keith Law projection of just possible twenty
Speaker 4: homers plus gold glove defense being somebody regret missing on
Speaker 4: the other side of the table like three, four or
Speaker 4: five years from now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not be in the mood to swap
Speaker 2: out Billy Carlson for Caleb Bonnemer. If the Angels came
Speaker 2: back and asked for that package, I would probably pass.
Speaker 2: I think highly of Kleb Bonomer. It looks he might
Speaker 2: hit thirty home runs this year across multiple levels, Jim,
Speaker 2: and we know that the White Sox could use more
Speaker 2: right handed power as Rock Schlawski makes his way or
Speaker 2: starts his way through the White Sox minor leagues. So
Speaker 2: as far as like untouchables, I don't think anyone's untouchable
Speaker 2: for the White Sox, but I would not give up
Speaker 2: Kleb Bonnomer for read Debt Mers.
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Speaker 2: My second trade idea, I think is a little bit
Speaker 2: more real. Stick We know, as Jim mentioned earlier, the
Speaker 2: White Sox need a catcher, and we talked about this
Speaker 2: in the past couple episodes three Targets. We even had
Speaker 2: Aer Kratz, a friend over at foul Territory, join the show.
Speaker 2: He recommended Jonah him. I think ultimately I'm going to
Speaker 2: go with Tyler Stevenson of the Cincinnati Reds, and the
Speaker 2: reason is is the bat he has almost the league
Speaker 2: average weighted runs cread A plus it's currently at ninety nine.
Speaker 2: He's batting two fifty one with a three point thirty
Speaker 2: three on base percentage. He's slugging three eighty nine. That's
Speaker 2: perfectly fine for hit her in the bottom of the order.
Speaker 2: He walks almost at eleven percent rate. He has eight
Speaker 2: homers and twenty nine RBIs. We can spend an entire
Speaker 2: podcast episode breaking down some of the defensive and game
Speaker 2: calling limitations for Edgar Carrow and Drew Romo. But the
Speaker 2: reason why the White Sox need to upgrade at this
Speaker 2: position with the uncertainty of Kyle Teal's injury is that
Speaker 2: Drew Romo's weighted runs create A plus is forty five
Speaker 2: and despite the to clutch walk off hits from Edgar
Speaker 2: Carrow this year, his way to runs cratiplus is thirty five.
Speaker 2: That is so bad for your two catchers right now
Speaker 2: on the team that they really don't merit any at
Speaker 2: bats in the major league level. So that's why I'm
Speaker 2: targeting Tyler Stevenson into exchange. For Stevenson. I know a
Speaker 2: lot of White Sox fans like Riku Nashida, and I
Speaker 2: think that he can be a useful utility player in
Speaker 2: the major league level. He really feels like a Terry
Speaker 2: francona typic guy, So be curious to see how the
Speaker 2: Reds would use Nashida and then Gabe Davis. This is
Speaker 2: a project. This is a lottery ticket six foot nine
Speaker 2: and he can throw up to ninety eight miles an hour.
Speaker 2: But again, Stevenson is going to be a free agent
Speaker 2: after this year, so this isn't going to be a
Speaker 2: huge prospect cost at least in my opinion for Stevenson. So, Jim,
Speaker 2: it's your turn break it down. What do you think
Speaker 2: about this trade?
Speaker 4: Think it needs a little bit more. It was funny
Speaker 4: as one Riku with Charlotte in Nashville this week, And
Speaker 4: I'm really glad he got the time in the majors
Speaker 4: this year because he's such a good minor league player,
Speaker 4: and it feels like a knock on him. But in
Speaker 4: terms of just how effective he is at Triple A,
Speaker 4: how he helps the lineup, how he gives guys extra
Speaker 4: plate appearances in Birmingham and now in Charlotte. You know,
Speaker 4: he's got a three twenty batting average, four hundred OVP,
Speaker 4: plays a few different positions, So like, he's really good
Speaker 4: to have around on a Triple A roster. He helps
Speaker 4: a team win, he creates opportunities for their guys. Teammates
Speaker 4: love having him around, like he's a good clubhouse guy.
Speaker 4: And so I don't want to say, like, you know,
Speaker 4: it was good that he got those games in the
Speaker 4: majors because they won't happen again. But he has such
Speaker 4: a narrow window for providing or another narrow path providing
Speaker 4: major league value. He's got a good outfield arm. He
Speaker 4: can create havoc on the base paths and place small ball,
Speaker 4: but we saw it with the White Sox. Just it's
Speaker 4: really hard to just beat major league defenses with soft
Speaker 4: contact over and over and over again the way that
Speaker 4: he can in the minors. So I don't know if
Speaker 4: he's somebody who is going to be attractive in a
Speaker 4: trade unless you know he's like the third player involved,
Speaker 4: or if it's like say prospect wait of like a
Speaker 4: Caleb Bonhamer and then Riko Nishida as well. I just
Speaker 4: think other teams can probably replicate that twenty six man,
Speaker 4: good clubhouse guy, you know, specific set of skills that
Speaker 4: Nashidah brings. So that's why I think I don't know
Speaker 4: if he moves a needle much in terms of trade value.
Speaker 4: I think Gabe Davis is an interesting guy just because
Speaker 4: the physical tools are there. He seems like somebody who's
Speaker 4: underdeveloped in college to where like the what he's had
Speaker 4: for a season so far in Winston Salem now in
Speaker 4: Birmingham is pretty impressive for how quickly it's come together
Speaker 4: in terms of strike throwing, but you know he is
Speaker 4: reaching new innings limits when he throws he is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's all kind of unknown. So I feel like, if
Speaker 4: that's the deal, then I think you do it. Perhaps
Speaker 4: Davis turns into monster because he's a big guy and
Speaker 4: he throws hard and he has a few different ways
Speaker 4: to get somebody out, But I think he's far enough
Speaker 4: away to where if that's the deal, I think the
Speaker 4: White Sox should do it. And I think the Reds
Speaker 4: can probably find at least one team offering somebody a
Speaker 4: little bit more certain that can get to the majors,
Speaker 4: just because like Davis's I think he fits that project mold,
Speaker 4: and I think if you're if he's leading the trade,
Speaker 4: and I think you need somebody a little bit stronger
Speaker 4: as the secondary piece to be a little bit more alluring.
Speaker 2: Okay, so right now in my first two trade offers,
Speaker 2: I'm light.
Speaker 4: It feels like I wouldn't say it's like just feels
Speaker 4: like in terms of value, in terms of like FV,
Speaker 4: like if you're putting feature value on, I think they're
Speaker 4: they're right on. It's just yeah, I'm thinking about the
Speaker 4: Angels and how they value you know how Arnie Moreno
Speaker 4: just wants like a couple of name brand players. He
Speaker 4: just basically wants a roster and that's kind of it.
Speaker 4: And so I think, you know, maybe you know, Carlson
Speaker 4: is just somebody's too far away to you know, and
Speaker 4: somebody can plug in pretty quickly and get the fans
Speaker 4: off his back is probably you know, more to his liking.
Speaker 4: This one just feels like, just how many teams need
Speaker 4: a catcher? Could they offer somebody who's yeah, it might
Speaker 4: not take much more. I'm trying to think if there's
Speaker 4: anybody else in the system.
Speaker 2: Well, my other idea was including Caro, Like this is
Speaker 2: a deal where I would maybe send Edgar Carro and
Speaker 2: gave Davis a Cincinnati for Stevenson.
Speaker 4: That feels like something that could hold a little bit
Speaker 4: more appeal, just because Caro has shown the ability to
Speaker 4: do it and if he rediscovers it, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's hard to know with him if it's a case
Speaker 4: where last year was Caro's ceiling. And you see this
Speaker 4: sometimes with yeah, developing players that they just try so
Speaker 4: hard to find waste to get around that or bust
Speaker 4: through it that they kind of make themselves worse. I
Speaker 4: think like Jared Keelnick is another one who you know,
Speaker 4: kind of fits that description of just trying so many
Speaker 4: swings and stances and adjustments and just getting further and
Speaker 4: further away from the guy who was like a useful
Speaker 4: platoon player with the Mariners. So yeah, if Caro's last
Speaker 4: year was his ceiling, then it might be a case
Speaker 4: where he's like a throw in if he can get
Speaker 4: back to it. It's just a matter of did he
Speaker 4: make himself worse trying to get back to that and
Speaker 4: trying to become that definite starting catcher versus somebody who's
Speaker 4: a nice backup to have.
Speaker 2: All right, And then my third and final trade idea
Speaker 2: before the deadline, and I feel like this is maybe
Speaker 2: the most realistic target for the White Sox right now
Speaker 2: in the starting pitching front, and that is Robby Ray
Speaker 2: the San Francisco Giants. So Ray right now has a
Speaker 2: pretty big discrepancy when it comes to earn run average.
Speaker 2: It's currently three point zero eight, which for the Ogs
Speaker 2: that's great. His fit is four point three to seven,
Speaker 2: So you're going to see a difference in terms of
Speaker 2: war on Baseball Reference and fangrafts. Ray has already pitched
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two and two thirds innings this year.
Speaker 2: He was excellent in his last outing against the San
Speaker 2: Diego Padres. Walks can be an issue with Robbie Ray,
Speaker 2: and is able to maintain fastball velocity over the course
Speaker 2: of the start has been into question, but Ray is
Speaker 2: still figuring out a way to go five six innings
Speaker 2: in his starts and with about eight million dollars left
Speaker 2: on his contract. As far as his deal originally with
Speaker 2: the Seattle Barners going to be expiring after this season,
Speaker 2: the White Sox have said that they are willing to
Speaker 2: take on some money to lower as far as the
Speaker 2: impact on prospect cost. And I feel like Robbie Ray
Speaker 2: is a good target for that type of strategy where
Speaker 2: I have a lot more confidence in his ability to
Speaker 2: start in the spots where Eric Betty and Noah Schultz
Speaker 2: have been starting, and that will help the White Sox
Speaker 2: start in rotation, I think solidify and again to go here,
Speaker 2: maybe this trade deadline is not about what can the
Speaker 2: White Sox do to add to beat the Yankees and
Speaker 2: raise in the postseason, But maybe my mindset is what
Speaker 2: can you add to outlast the Guardians and Twins so
Speaker 2: you can get into the postseason and see if chaos
Speaker 2: reigns Still in the American League even in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So the players that I would send from the White
Speaker 2: Sox to the Giants Drew Thorpe. He's currently rehabbing, but
Speaker 2: I really don't know what the future looks like for him.
Speaker 2: I think he's still an intriguing project, but he could
Speaker 2: use more time in development. He's not going to help
Speaker 2: the White Sox this season, and Kyle Lodis, which the
Speaker 2: White Sox drafted last year, and with all the shortstops
Speaker 2: and middle infielders that the White Sox have, I think
Speaker 2: that he is probably most suited to be dealt by
Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox as there's going to be some
Speaker 2: roadblocks and his ability to reach the major leagues. So
Speaker 2: if the Giants are looking for proving college bats because
Speaker 2: Lodis was really good with Georgia Tech last year, I
Speaker 2: think that is a worthwhile project from a San Francisco
Speaker 2: Giants perspective. And if Drew Thorpe continues his rehab and
Speaker 2: looks stronger and stronger, maybe Thorpe can help out in
Speaker 2: the rotation for the San Francisco Giants next year and
Speaker 2: get a chance to pitch at the Giants stadium. So
Speaker 2: Jim Robbie Ray lay it on me. What do you
Speaker 2: think about this trade offer?
Speaker 4: I think it's close. Like I will say, like this one,
Speaker 4: I rolled around in my head because I still like
Speaker 4: Thorpe as a contribute to the rotation. The change up
Speaker 4: is really really good. We don't know what he looks
Speaker 4: like when he's fully healthy, because he had some LB
Speaker 4: issues before the Tommy John surgery. And just the change
Speaker 4: up is so good that he can get a lot
Speaker 4: of mileage out of that. And if he's got a
Speaker 4: tick or two more velosity because he was pitching a
Speaker 4: little bit hampered, that's probably a good number four starter.
Speaker 4: And I don't say that lightly. I mean you need
Speaker 4: five starters. If somebody's good number four, if that means
Speaker 4: they're never a threatened from being replaced, or they're never
Speaker 4: the worst pitcher in rotation, that's an extremely useful pitcher.
Speaker 4: And I think a good return for rental if you
Speaker 4: are the Giants, I think maybe a team could beat that.
Speaker 4: The one thing that concerns me with Ray, and I
Speaker 4: think the one thing that'll be interesting watching his market
Speaker 4: is that he's got a big home and road split.
Speaker 4: And we talk about Giants' pitchers and how hard it
Speaker 4: is to know Homer at Oracle Park. I immediately go
Speaker 4: to his splits, and he's got a two hundred ops
Speaker 4: or a two hundred point ops split between home and
Speaker 4: away seven to eighty five allowed at home for eighty
Speaker 4: four or sorry, forty four at home seven eighty five away.
Speaker 4: He's given up ten homers in fifty seven to two
Speaker 4: thirds innings versus five homers in over sixty five innings
Speaker 4: at Oracle Park. So I think if you move him
Speaker 4: from Oracle to the Rates, you are inviting chaos. I
Speaker 4: think he's experienced enough to where you know, he's not
Speaker 4: a one trick pony necessarily. He's had enough success in
Speaker 4: his career that he probably knows how to get away
Speaker 4: with his you know, with certain environments. And when he
Speaker 4: does go to a less friendly place to pitch, then
Speaker 4: he knows exactly the mistakes that he's less like to
Speaker 4: get away with. So I wouldn't necessarily say, you know,
Speaker 4: copy his road splits and then past them in the
Speaker 4: home slot for the rest of the season. And it's
Speaker 4: that simple, But that would be the one thing that
Speaker 4: would give me pause in terms of just trying to
Speaker 4: get him to replicate his overall performance, certainly somebody who helps.
Speaker 4: And it was funny. The one guy I was thinking
Speaker 4: about in terms of rental pictures, in terms of comparable
Speaker 4: deals and what kind of prospect stock they cost, was
Speaker 4: you say, Kakuci a couple of years ago with the
Speaker 4: UH went from the Angels to the Astros, and everybody
Speaker 4: thought the Astros overpaid. It was Jake bloss and Joey
Speaker 4: Low Perfido and Will Wagner, and you look at what
Speaker 4: the Astros got, which is like very good performance from
Speaker 4: Kakuchi after the trade, and low Perveto had some moments
Speaker 4: but didn't quite stick, and I think he went back
Speaker 4: to the Astros and blossc got hurt. Like the Astros
Speaker 4: did fine. They got slaughtered in the post trade analysis
Speaker 4: because they did give up their number two and number
Speaker 4: three prospect, but it turned out like that it didn't
Speaker 4: hurt them basically whatsoever. In fact, they got low Perffito back.
Speaker 4: So if if that was a lot, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: it might cost the White Sox a little bit more.
Speaker 4: But I think between the money owed, the road splits
Speaker 4: and just you know, his overall effectiveness and just you know,
Speaker 4: he has some efficiency issues to where I think he's
Speaker 4: less likely to go deep in a game than debtvers
Speaker 4: I think his cost can only be so much before
Speaker 4: you know, you're talking about like the Giants having to
Speaker 4: cover a ton of salary and maybe change the calculus
Speaker 4: all that much. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Like if Kevin Gosman didn't list the White Sox at
Speaker 2: his no trade clause and that was something that you
Speaker 2: would have to negotiate, whether the Toronto Blue Jays would
Speaker 2: have to work out with Gossman before trading him. I
Speaker 2: think Gosman would be my number one target, like out
Speaker 2: of those rentals, Jim, because I think Gossman I would
Speaker 2: have the most confidence that you would want him to
Speaker 2: start one of the first three games of a postseason series,
Speaker 2: maybe even game two, behind Sean Burke, like maybe go Burke, Gossman,
Speaker 2: Martin and k I think Ray though, just being that
Speaker 2: veteran presence and the starting rotation is a better option
Speaker 2: for the White Sox than Fetti and Noah Schultz moving forward.
Speaker 2: So that's why I think it's most realistic. Like out
Speaker 2: of all the pictures on expiring contracts, that's where I
Speaker 2: do see like the benefit of the White Sox adding
Speaker 2: Robby Ray.
Speaker 4: The thing with Goxman and I wonder is, you know,
Speaker 4: when you sign that deals after the twenty twenty one season.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, like in terms of the White Sox
Speaker 4: reputation and being added to a no trade clause. I
Speaker 4: wonder if it is something where Yeah, how old is
Speaker 4: this no trade clause? That's a good point. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: going back to the twenty twenty one Yeah, that's when
Speaker 4: he signed. The deal, was after the twenty twenty one season.
Speaker 4: So is it a case where the White Sox, you know,
Speaker 4: have they improved their reputation enough. We've heard about, you know,
Speaker 4: through the season and how surprising they are and how
Speaker 4: chaotic there dugout is, you know, and stories about the
Speaker 4: the dugouts Yeah yeah, and the the the very college
Speaker 4: like atmosphere that they bring. And I think you, Mike
Speaker 4: Vassal others have said, you know, what's going on your
Speaker 4: dugout in the good way, Like people have noticed that, oh,
Speaker 4: these White Sox, there's something different going on there. I
Speaker 4: wonder if that carries over to you know, Gossman having
Speaker 4: reasons for a no trade clause that may not exist.
Speaker 4: Perhaps he doesn't like Chicago, Perhaps he doesn't like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, great fielder, doesn't you know, he's heard bad
Speaker 4: things about the accommodations for uh, you know, the the
Speaker 4: off field stuff for his family or whatever. So perhaps,
Speaker 4: like there's other reasons besides that. But that's something that
Speaker 4: when I saw he had no trade clause, I thought,
Speaker 4: how old is it and what information was he basically
Speaker 4: off of? And has that information change? Maybe it hasn't,
Speaker 4: but maybe it has.
Speaker 2: Milwaukee's on that list, what starting picture that's a veteran
Speaker 2: right now wouldn't want to be on the Milwaukee Brewers,
Speaker 2: Like the Brewers have a great chance of well, not
Speaker 2: only reaching the postseason, but reaching the Championship Series and
Speaker 2: maybe the World Series this year. So I think you're right, Jim, Like,
Speaker 2: it is fair to question how old is this no
Speaker 2: trade cost? Because if he made this in the last
Speaker 2: couple of months, maybe he just doesn't like the Midwest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe he you know, he wants to drink
Speaker 4: less beer or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe Chicago is the American version of Toronto. Kevin, Yes,
Speaker 2: come on over, Yeah, Gosslan would be my my number
Speaker 2: one option. We'll see if he's able to, if he's
Speaker 2: willing to waive his no trade class with the White Sox.
Speaker 2: White Sox go get Kevin Gossman. I would really approve that,
Speaker 2: but as far as the pitcher's out there, I do
Speaker 2: think again Robbie Ray could help the White Sox. So
Speaker 2: those are my three trade ideas. We're gonna take a
Speaker 2: quick break from a word from responsors. You guys also
Speaker 2: pitched your trade ideas to us and we'll be sharing
Speaker 2: those next on the Sox Machine podcast. Welcome back to
Speaker 2: the Sox Machine podcast again. Before we went to the break,
Speaker 2: we highlighted that you guys are listeners and those that
Speaker 2: watch our videos and our YouTube channel at YouTube dot
Speaker 2: com slash Socks Machine. You guys pitched us some trade
Speaker 2: ideas as well, so we're going to share them now.
Speaker 2: From one of our longtime supporters, Paul Reiker on Twitter,
Speaker 2: this is a doozy Jim. His His pitch is that
Speaker 2: Mike Trout is going to pull a Jake Peebe and
Speaker 2: wave his no trade clause. The Chicago White Sox received
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, read debt, merse and some cash, and the
Speaker 2: Angels receive Caleb Bonnemer, Noah Schultz, Shane Smith, and George Wilcow.
Speaker 2: That would be a headline, stealing trade very San Diego
Speaker 2: before the deadline. What is your instant reaction to this idea, Jim.
Speaker 4: An instant reactions Hell yeah, not because necessarily baseball village
Speaker 4: just like, Wow, that's a lot. That's lot to write about.
Speaker 4: That is, that's reactions, that's being a subject of baseball fascination.
Speaker 4: That is traffic four Socksmachine dot com and listeners and
Speaker 4: viewers of the Sox Machine podcast and subscribers. So yes,
Speaker 4: all four, it's all four headlines. I love me some
Speaker 4: striker trades because he's always good at this. In terms
Speaker 4: of yeah, six player deals, three player deals, that's you know,
Speaker 4: I would not have thought of that name, And don't
Speaker 4: know if anybody would could leave the UH trade table
Speaker 4: without vomiting either out of disgust or fear. But in
Speaker 4: terms of like, yeah, kind of makes sense. Really, Bondomer
Speaker 4: is the only one that you feel huge regret about.
Speaker 4: I think you're the White Sox. And then it just
Speaker 4: a matter like how much cash because like, if you're
Speaker 4: stuck with Trout and I'm looking at his contract through
Speaker 4: twenty thirty, so it's yea seasons after this, you know,
Speaker 4: and he's somebody who hamstrings the White Sox ability spend
Speaker 4: afterwards if his legs give out him again, Like that
Speaker 4: could be a case where you just collapsed your whole
Speaker 4: you know what you're trying to build, because you can
Speaker 4: no longer add from the outside anymore. But in terms
Speaker 4: of just fascination, I'm for it.
Speaker 2: Our next idea comes from Tony, and Tony wants to
Speaker 2: make a deal with the New York Mets. And he's
Speaker 2: got the Mets sending Clay Holmes and Luis Robert Junior
Speaker 2: to the White Sox or Mason Edwards ever Sin Preira
Speaker 2: and Kobe Shelton. And his idea is that the White
Speaker 2: Sox get a starter and I'll put you an option
Speaker 2: for Tristan Peters, somebody that's more reliable that could hit
Speaker 2: left handed pitching. What do you think about this trade proposal.
Speaker 4: Jim, Another fascinating one, just because it feels like Roberts,
Speaker 4: you know, given the cash ode to him. If you're
Speaker 4: taking on his entire deal, that probably takes value away
Speaker 4: from Holmes. I think Holmes is somebody who could have
Speaker 4: a fair amount of value, and I think you're talking
Speaker 4: about Colby Shelton because Pereira is out of options, like
Speaker 4: we've seen the White Sox struggle to keep him on
Speaker 4: the roster away, Like how much of a project do
Speaker 4: you want? I don't think he has much value. Mason
Speaker 4: Adams is a good six starter candidate right now. Could
Speaker 4: be a back end guy. I don't think he has
Speaker 4: a whole lot of bullpen value. If he gets that point,
Speaker 4: he's more of like a kitchen sink, command oriented pitcher
Speaker 4: who can surprise you by getting through the lineup two
Speaker 4: and a half times. Does that move a needle much?
Speaker 4: Do other teams have that kind of picture. Colby Shelton
Speaker 4: I think is he's improved his stock quite a bit.
Speaker 4: Feels like you can probably do a little bit better
Speaker 4: if you're the Mets, just because I think you're looking
Speaker 4: at Colby Shelton being the one guy who's improved his
Speaker 4: stock enough. Certainly hit some tanks to where like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's some real power in there, and if you can
Speaker 4: cover left side of the enfield spot could be underappreciated.
Speaker 4: Could be a team somebody takes interest in targets if
Speaker 4: they've been scouting the system. But I think that's probably
Speaker 4: a little bit lights for Holmes even with Robert eating
Speaker 4: into the deal. But I did, like I thought at
Speaker 4: first in terms of like would they want Robert Beck?
Speaker 4: And it would really test the theory that you know,
Speaker 4: among the players who are previously in the rebuild court
Speaker 4: cores and you know, who are the players are happy
Speaker 4: to move on from. Like Roberts, for all of his injuries,
Speaker 4: really seem like he wanted to be on the field
Speaker 4: and was trying. It just seemed like his body was
Speaker 4: built to a point that it just couldn't withstand the
Speaker 4: riggers of Major League Baseball. That would kind of test
Speaker 4: it because he does fits like in terms of how
Speaker 4: Tony described for a platoon partner for Tristan Peters in
Speaker 4: center field, like yeah, that's that's pretty good. You're getting,
Speaker 4: you know, no defensive drop off, and like it would
Speaker 4: be compelling. But it would be just a matter of
Speaker 4: would the White Sox feel like they're reintroducing their past
Speaker 4: when they've worked so hard to shake it. That would
Speaker 4: be the one, you know, perhaps it'd be kind of
Speaker 4: bs if you know, like the whole thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we can bring Robert and be fine. Everybody liked him,
Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't his fault. If he gets hurt,
Speaker 4: it's no big deal, but yeah, I would be testing
Speaker 4: that theory of just was he different from like the
Speaker 4: Ilo Jimenezo on Macata sector of just uh guys who
Speaker 4: weren't leaders and kind of actively or not actively, but
Speaker 4: just maybe helped create this environment of just nobody's trying
Speaker 4: all that hard.
Speaker 2: And then finally from socksmachine dot Com from one of
Speaker 2: our supporters, Hawk checking on Fraser twenty one, so three
Speaker 2: ideas he has get Kevin Kossman for Blake Larsen and
Speaker 2: Kay Bush, White Sox acquire Freddy Peralta for Kyle Lodis
Speaker 2: and a lottery ticket. And the White Sox acquired Jonah
Speaker 2: him from the Athletics or Ryan Burrow. So very similar
Speaker 2: thought process like I had in acquiring two starting pitchers
Speaker 2: and a catcher. So what do you think about If
Speaker 2: the White Socks are able to pull this off, then
Speaker 2: I think this would be a great trade deadline and
Speaker 2: the instant reaction for everyone that covers the White Sox
Speaker 2: was Chris Getz did a very good job and he
Speaker 2: added depth to the starting rotation. He found a better
Speaker 2: catcher to buy time until Kyle Teal returns. Like the
Speaker 2: White Chris Gets would be graded very favorably if the
Speaker 2: White Sox were able to pull this trade off. That's
Speaker 2: my thought, Jim. But what are your thoughts as far
Speaker 2: as acquiring Gossman Praltenheim.
Speaker 4: Especially Gosmin for two guys who aren't pitching and haven't
Speaker 4: been able to stay on the mound. That would be
Speaker 4: I think if your Toronto your irate if that's what
Speaker 4: you get back for Gosmin. Like Larson's had four and
Speaker 4: two thirds innings of major experience, had Tommy John surgery
Speaker 4: and then Alett strain cut his first season short after
Speaker 4: three outings. Bush had Tommy John surgery. I think he's
Speaker 4: had shoulder issue since so he's had trouble rehabbing. So
Speaker 4: I think that would that deal I think would get
Speaker 4: you pilloried if you are the Blue Jays and that's
Speaker 4: the best you could do, unless like somehow he's wielding
Speaker 4: his no trade clause, that is the best you can do.
Speaker 4: But it really does seem like that is thoroughly beatable.
Speaker 4: Prolto would be just you know, how bad is it?
Speaker 4: Like because he's he's not pitching well for the Mets,
Speaker 4: and like that's it's not going well. Like you don't
Speaker 4: want to give up much more than load E's. It
Speaker 4: feels like a team could probably do, but like I
Speaker 4: almost feel like I give up Burrow, like or flip
Speaker 4: it and say, like Burrows instead of load East in
Speaker 4: that spot might do it because Burrow's just got to
Speaker 4: double A. He's been out playing Lodis at high A
Speaker 4: and has a little bit more versatility on his side,
Speaker 4: and you know, maybe he's better. It's tricky there, but
Speaker 4: like the pro Alta, yeah, just the way he's pitching
Speaker 4: and the way how bad it spent for the Mets,
Speaker 4: you don't really want to go much more before balking
Speaker 4: and say like, we've made a mistake by thinking we could,
Speaker 4: like just the way the Mets out there pulling a
Speaker 4: fast food on the White Sox, by getting Louise Robert
Speaker 4: and saying we can keep him healthy. It'd be the
Speaker 4: same thing to me just getting Pearlton saying yeah, we
Speaker 4: can fix them. We can get him back back to
Speaker 4: a postseason start in two months. So that'd be a
Speaker 4: kind of a flip of that time. I think his
Speaker 4: market's probably good enough to where you had to pony
Speaker 4: up more than Burrows, but yeah, probably not much more
Speaker 4: just a matter of like a better player, but one
Speaker 4: you don't need, and Burrows is fits that position in
Speaker 4: terms of so much redundancy up the middle for the
Speaker 4: White Sox to where you could trade them for somebody.
Speaker 4: Just feels like the White Sox could trade them for
Speaker 4: somebody who's closer, somebody who's like probably you know, in
Speaker 4: triple A versus just got to double A, you know,
Speaker 4: being more major League ready and providing the same kind
Speaker 4: of future value and ceiling. So yeah, I like the
Speaker 4: three players. Yeah, Gosman will cost more. He I'm probably
Speaker 4: a little bit more Protai. I have no idea, just
Speaker 4: because it's been so bad and so so tragic in
Speaker 4: a way, just because I think there's a video of
Speaker 4: Pat Murphy talking to Peralta and like they captured some
Speaker 4: audio and it sounds like, yeah, it wasn't anything scandalous
Speaker 4: or you know, par alter but you know, Murphy just
Speaker 4: kind of the way he I forget exactly what he said,
Speaker 4: but it's kind of like you're good, but it sounded
Speaker 4: like a heavy you good. Yeah, I'm concerned about you, like,
Speaker 4: y know what happened, Like you were not this guy
Speaker 4: for us, and even though you know we don't want you,
Speaker 4: necessarily as the Brewers, to be as good for the
Speaker 4: Mets as you are for the Brewers who probably care
Speaker 4: for him as a person and don't want to be
Speaker 4: that bad. So yeah, it's prolt I have no idea
Speaker 4: exactly what he will cost, but probably can't be much
Speaker 4: more than that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what happens. We are hoping the White
Speaker 2: Sox make a deal. If that does happen, of course
Speaker 2: we'll fire up an emergency podcast when the news breaks.
Speaker 2: But then again, especially Trout one, especially.
Speaker 4: Mike Trout, that would be like that would be like
Speaker 4: a three and a half hour emergency podcast.
Speaker 2: The White Sox acquired by Trout. Yes, that would be
Speaker 2: stop what we're doing right now and get on the computer.
Speaker 4: Six part series that those six parts recorded in sequence
Speaker 4: in six hours, and we just livestream the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Pretty much pretty much. But again, our friends at foul
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