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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we obviously
Speaker 1: have to talk about that explosive finale of the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey.
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Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. I mean, girls, that
Speaker 1: finale was insane. In the membrane, I'm physically shaking, like
Speaker 1: I'm Lisa Barlow on the sprinter bus in my fur
Speaker 1: calling Vita Liquor sponsors so that I won't get arrested
Speaker 1: by the US Marshalls. So let's just get right into it.
Speaker 1: What did you two think about that finale? And did
Speaker 1: it live up to this moment that we've all been
Speaker 1: waiting for?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: I actually I.
Speaker 3: Was very invested, and I think that's good because I
Speaker 3: haven't been invested the entire season, so I do think
Speaker 3: it was really intense. It was kind of needed to
Speaker 3: have everyone together. And I get why there's no reunion.
Speaker 6: I mean I literally had butterflies in my stomach watching
Speaker 6: it because I was like nervous shaking because I was like,
Speaker 6: what is happening? Because like I had to rewatch it
Speaker 6: three times just that like you know, scene.
Speaker 5: Of them getting up, and I loved it.
Speaker 6: I thought it was a great finale and it just
Speaker 6: showed it goes to show that like the production and
Speaker 6: Bravo is probably going to say goodbye to most of
Speaker 6: them and they made they edit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely feel like not only like a season finale,
Speaker 1: but like a series finale in the sense of you
Speaker 1: won't see half of these girls ever. So let's just
Speaker 1: give us as proper like good Fellas, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, finality in terms of what
Speaker 1: we've been seeing. You know, there was some men, explosive moments,
Speaker 1: so many explosive revelations. Let's get into the Dolores and Margaret.
Speaker 1: Josephs up it all so I need to know who
Speaker 1: you guys believe, Margaret or Dolores. So here they are
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and listen. Margaret, this finale had
Speaker 1: no fucks to give, she said, if I'm going down,
Speaker 1: all you bitches are going down with me. I refuse
Speaker 1: to continue this season without exposing everybody in my way.
Speaker 2: So her first victim.
Speaker 1: Was Delores, where she revealed that Delores was invited to
Speaker 1: this meeting where they were pretty much going to listen,
Speaker 1: take down Louie.
Speaker 2: You know, let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 1: Delores reaction when she called her the C word see
Speaker 1: you next Tuesday, I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 2: A pardon me?
Speaker 1: Felt like, okay, do I believe Dolores or is Dolores
Speaker 1: not admitting to it because she doesn't want the rap
Speaker 1: of Teresa nor the tree huggers. Because Dolores's loyalty has
Speaker 1: been very questionable. You know who do you, ladies believe?
Speaker 1: Do you believe Margaret or do you believe dolor Dolorus
Speaker 1: all day?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you look at Margaret, she looks
Speaker 3: very questionable, you know, where she didn't anticipate Dolores to
Speaker 3: go that crazy, so and then she backs down.
Speaker 4: A little bit. So because she backs out.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I believe Dolores, because why would Dolores be
Speaker 3: like she's looking at her like bitch, Like, don't even
Speaker 3: go there, don't even start this shit with me, Like
Speaker 3: I know how you work.
Speaker 4: You're not playing with me. So I do believe Dolores here.
Speaker 3: I believe that Margaret is making that up because Margaret
Speaker 3: wants problems with Teresa and Dolores. But I know a
Speaker 3: lot of people are questioning her. I think Dolores is like,
Speaker 3: I have to keep my enemies closer, and that's what
Speaker 3: she does with Margaret.
Speaker 6: But I also I've been telling Raxcy and I think
Speaker 6: Dolores downplays her relationship with Margaret because they call each
Speaker 6: other best friends, they call each other sisters after they're
Speaker 6: apologizing after.
Speaker 5: The little blow up. But I still think Dolores is
Speaker 5: telling the truth.
Speaker 6: And I think that Margaret just wants to make Teresa
Speaker 6: Dolores not friends and she can have Dolores alter herself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the reason why I listen
Speaker 1: as a housewives connoisseur, as somebody who started Jersey, you
Speaker 1: know who started Atlanta.
Speaker 2: This isn't what.
Speaker 1: I produced, do you know what I mean? It's still
Speaker 1: like Hunger Games is you know, Jersey and a lot
Speaker 1: of housewives. Because I said on my own podcasts before,
Speaker 1: it's no longer about friendships. It's more about alliances. It's
Speaker 1: more about who cannot align myself with in order for
Speaker 1: me to secure another season. Jersey is definitely a show
Speaker 1: that is not at all about friendships. Is truly about
Speaker 1: picking aside, sticking to a side, and then investigating their
Speaker 1: quote unquote friends or their cast members to dick of
Speaker 1: so much dirt about them.
Speaker 2: And that's not.
Speaker 1: What I produced. Early on this season, we got the
Speaker 1: drama and all that stuff. I mean, hello Teresa chasing
Speaker 1: down Danielle stop as she pulling her hair, like we
Speaker 1: have some wild moments, but none to where somebody is
Speaker 1: being investigated to the degree of your involving husbands and children.
Speaker 2: I'm with you too.
Speaker 1: Dolores immediate reaction to me displayed that Margaret was lying.
Speaker 1: And the way Margaret sort of clocked Jackie's tea, which
Speaker 1: will get to later, the way she stood up with
Speaker 1: her bob looking like Nicki Minaj back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, you know, Starships era. The way she kind
Speaker 1: of like stood up, it was like, no, bitch, I
Speaker 1: know for a fact you did it.
Speaker 2: She did not have that same energy with Dolores.
Speaker 1: And the fact that de Laura's called her, I mean
Speaker 1: the C word in front of her face sort of
Speaker 1: showed me that Dolores is not the bitch to play with.
Speaker 1: Do you say Margaret underestimated that Delores is not somebody
Speaker 1: that she can scare the way she does these other women,
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 2: Melissa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she got so scared.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, she didn't expect Dolores's reaction, and she's like, I
Speaker 3: need Dolores because, just like you said, it's all about
Speaker 3: alliances here. So she's like, I need Dolores to have
Speaker 3: my back to be on my side to pick me,
Speaker 3: you know, over Teresa if it comes down to it.
Speaker 3: So she really backed the hell down and that told
Speaker 3: you everything.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't have backed down, just like you said with
Speaker 4: the Jackie thing.
Speaker 3: But I have a question because you're a producer, and
Speaker 3: when you were producing New Jersey, didn't they have like
Speaker 3: a couple of year contracts, not like a one year contract?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like there's so much pressure to deliver
Speaker 3: and do the dirtiest thing so you get another season.
Speaker 3: So you kind of have to understand where they're coming from.
Speaker 3: But when you were on the show, didn't you guys
Speaker 3: give Housewives like a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen, anybody who's on the show, they have options, right,
Speaker 1: So no one does a one season deal, not one
Speaker 1: person on any reality show.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just say docuseries. Right, if you're on
Speaker 1: like The Bachelor, obviously that one season. But when you're
Speaker 1: on a docu series like this, you're signed up for
Speaker 1: multiple seasons. But the thing is this, the network has
Speaker 1: the right to get rid of you. They don't have
Speaker 1: to exercise their option, right, So you could be signed
Speaker 1: on for like four years, but if your first season
Speaker 1: is then spectacular.
Speaker 2: Every network has.
Speaker 1: The right to let you go wow. That's the way
Speaker 1: it goes. And what happens with these housewives is this.
Speaker 1: It's not often that a middle age woman is able
Speaker 1: to be famous and on television because unfortunately, in our business,
Speaker 1: middle aged women don't have a lot of options to
Speaker 1: have a leading role on the television show, right, and
Speaker 1: that's primarily actresses.
Speaker 2: When you are reality star, you.
Speaker 1: Can have a second life, a second win post forty.
Speaker 1: And what that means is you are immedially famous, you're
Speaker 1: immedially successful. You me deally have all this wealth, and
Speaker 1: it's not every day that you have those opportunities, and
Speaker 1: it reaks U desperation to keep it. Listen, I have
Speaker 1: no issue with Jackie Goldschneider. She's great television. But I
Speaker 1: think Jackie is listen to me, it will get to
Speaker 1: the finale dinner in a second. Jackie Goldschneider to me
Speaker 1: is the perfect example of I will do whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to be to remain relevant. You know, I will
Speaker 1: disregard my friendship of five plus years with Melissa and
Speaker 1: Margaret and befriend Teresa if that means I get more
Speaker 1: camera time. You know, I think Jackie's loyalty is to
Speaker 1: her fame.
Speaker 3: I do think though, that Jackie did realize she was
Speaker 3: treated way differently when she got cast as a friend
Speaker 3: of the people like Melissa and Margaret who called her
Speaker 3: every single day.
Speaker 4: They stopped calling her, they.
Speaker 3: Stopped being loyal, and she was like, wait, is this
Speaker 3: friendship actually genuine? And that's why she was so comfortable
Speaker 3: flipping because they stopped giving a shit about her once
Speaker 3: she got demoted. So the you know, for her, she's like,
Speaker 3: this was never authentic, Like I.
Speaker 2: Thought, that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 4: But I see your.
Speaker 3: Point too, Like I see your point, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: but then I also see her side of it as well.
Speaker 6: But it's also like if she was someone too, you know,
Speaker 6: at that dinner for we will get to it, I guess,
Speaker 6: but at that dinner, it's if like she really wants
Speaker 6: to be on that show and secure her spot, Like
Speaker 6: she has so much shit on Margaret that she could say,
Speaker 6: like I know she does. So it's like, why don't
Speaker 6: you say it, Like why are you backing down? Like
Speaker 6: why aren't you telling your truth that probably you have
Speaker 6: on her? So that's what bothers me because it's like,
Speaker 6: let's let's let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think Jackie.
Speaker 1: Listen, Jackie did not expect to get exposed. And Honey,
Speaker 1: I mean if if I wanted to see how her
Speaker 1: chair looked, I needed to see the seat because I
Speaker 1: needed to see if there were brown doodoo stains. Because literally, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2: For the mental picture.
Speaker 1: Rank drops hot, hide your wives and hib the kids.
Speaker 1: I felt like she shit at her pants. I mean,
Speaker 1: talk about bubble guts, not butterplasmia stomach like literally bubble guts.
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about this before we get
Speaker 1: to that part. What do we think about the Louis
Speaker 1: Teresa's conversation juxtaposed against Joe Gorgas and Melissa's conversation as
Speaker 1: they were getting ready to have this finale dinner. So
Speaker 1: we got a chance to get two point of views
Speaker 1: from let's call it what it is, the two families
Speaker 1: who are the anchors of the show. Right to me,
Speaker 1: it was evident that the network, the production knew that
Speaker 1: these two families will never appear on the same show
Speaker 1: ever again. And from the flashbacks to the conversations about
Speaker 1: their parents, look, everyone knows. Teresa's my friend in real
Speaker 1: life and I love her dearly. It saddened me to
Speaker 1: see the flashbacks of her parents because, and I said
Speaker 1: this in nauseum, I know for a fact that her
Speaker 1: parents adored her, and I know for a fact that
Speaker 1: Teresa lived to please her parents and to take care
Speaker 1: of them when they were ill. And to sort of
Speaker 1: see how Joe Gorga said out of his own mouth
Speaker 1: that his father said, to take care of your sister.
Speaker 1: That was pretty much your father's dying wish. And to
Speaker 1: know that you could not even live up to your
Speaker 1: father's wishes to me, explain the type of man you are.
Speaker 2: And I know that everybody.
Speaker 1: Has these feelings about Louis, and I want to ask
Speaker 1: you ladies your thoughts on him. But I feel like
Speaker 1: no one thinks about the fact that at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, at the end of the day, Joe
Speaker 1: Gorga is blood related to Teresa.
Speaker 2: That's her only sibling.
Speaker 1: He said, out of his own mouth, My father said
Speaker 1: to take care of my sister, and you have I
Speaker 1: failed that assignment.
Speaker 2: You. I think it's I think it's super sad and
Speaker 2: super gross.
Speaker 6: I think too, it's like a lot of people's relationships
Speaker 6: can be like you don't like your in law, so
Speaker 6: like he might not like Louis, But why does it
Speaker 6: have to be like the be all end all for
Speaker 6: your relationship with your sister, Like there should have still
Speaker 6: been some sort of communication after before the wedding, after
Speaker 6: the wedding, like him still trying if like that's what
Speaker 6: you told your father that you're going to do, and
Speaker 6: that you're going to take care of her and her
Speaker 6: daughters and making sure that they're okay, and like making
Speaker 6: sure that their headspace is okay, like if if you
Speaker 6: heard like the way Melissa told him in that conversation,
Speaker 6: is that that house is so stressed, Like how do
Speaker 6: you not want to pick up the phone and call
Speaker 6: Gia at least or call somebody and say, are you
Speaker 6: guys doing okay?
Speaker 5: Are you guys doing something? It's something that do I
Speaker 5: need to know?
Speaker 6: And if they say no, don't worry about it, then
Speaker 6: at least you know you did your job. But how
Speaker 6: do you not have that feeling to do that with them?
Speaker 6: It blows my mind?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Joe.
Speaker 3: One thing that bothered me about him is you can
Speaker 3: tell in the last year he doesn't look happy if
Speaker 3: you see photos videos.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have the same energy he used to have,
Speaker 4: but you know, he still.
Speaker 3: Tried to throw shades, so he doesn't care about what
Speaker 3: his dad said, his mom says anything, because he still.
Speaker 4: Tried to throw shade.
Speaker 3: And he said, if my sister was really going through something,
Speaker 3: she would never want everyone to know about it.
Speaker 4: And it's like, well, what about you, Joe.
Speaker 3: We've never heard anything that you're going through, so why
Speaker 3: are you throwing shade at Teresa?
Speaker 4: Like this is a real thing.
Speaker 3: They brought a dangerous person who's been harassing Teresa's children
Speaker 3: onto this platform for no reason. It's like they take
Speaker 3: it too far and then it gets so ugly and
Speaker 3: now it's like, what was it worth it?
Speaker 4: Everyone? Look where everyone's at now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's saddest me because look, I think that if
Speaker 1: you look at the cast, okay, and let's look at them,
Speaker 1: let's look at them silo.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I will go on the record saying I think each
Speaker 1: of them individually are great housewives, but what they bring
Speaker 1: to the show, right, I think Melissa is a great housewife.
Speaker 1: I think Margaret is one. I love Rachel and Danielle Honey,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden.
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, we'll get to that a second.
Speaker 1: I mean, please find me the black version of Jennifer
Speaker 1: Aiden for my lover Mans franchise, because Honey, Bunny, she's everything.
Speaker 1: As individuals, they're all great housewives. It's saddest me that
Speaker 1: nobody felt the need to say, Okay, bitch, let's figure
Speaker 1: out how to make this show work, how to not
Speaker 1: make it dark. Let's not investigate each other. Let's not
Speaker 1: even run the gamut of like trying to expose each
Speaker 1: other husbands. The thinking that I'm getting the most I've
Speaker 1: had people texting me about Louie. I literally received the
Speaker 1: text last night from a friend of mine who said
Speaker 1: to me, you should be concerned about Louie. And my
Speaker 1: response was, I can only base somebody off of me
Speaker 1: meeting them, and I'm sorry, guys, He's a nice person.
Speaker 1: He's been nothing but sweet to me. Teresa looks happy.
Speaker 1: I've always said this in nauseum. Teresa's children have great
Speaker 1: discernment and at the end of the day, they love him. So, guys,
Speaker 1: I get what it may appear based on what we
Speaker 1: are fed courtesy of the show of the blogs or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I can only base Louie character off of what
Speaker 1: I know him to be, and if I'm wrong, I'm
Speaker 1: wrong in the end. But as of today, I like Louis.
Speaker 1: I love Teresa's happiness. It's primarily because of him. Her
Speaker 1: daughters love him. I don't know what you guys want
Speaker 1: from me. I don't see it when I'm around him
Speaker 1: in real life. But you two, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Louie. Should Teresa be concerned? Because that's the biggest
Speaker 1: feedback of people saying, well, it's Louie's fault he ruined
Speaker 1: the show, And I'm like, well, bitch, what.
Speaker 2: Show are you watching? Because I don't think it's Louie's fault.
Speaker 6: I think we've met Louis twan like, like everything you
Speaker 6: said is like how we feel we've met him.
Speaker 5: He's been nothing but great to us as.
Speaker 6: Well, and like he's and what we were at Brava
Speaker 6: Khan and we saw him.
Speaker 5: How he interacted with the fans is too. He was awesome.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people met him are like,
Speaker 5: we didn't expect that from him.
Speaker 6: So I really don't understand like the hate, but I
Speaker 6: also think that he was thrown into this not really
Speaker 6: understanding how it works, So I think he doesn't know
Speaker 6: when he talks like how people are going to spend things,
Speaker 6: and I think he's being genuine and like trying to
Speaker 6: like just he's very emotional guy, it seems like, so
Speaker 6: he's trying to show his emotions.
Speaker 5: A lot, and it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 6: The way they edit it or the way he comes
Speaker 6: out doesn't portray what he's really trying to, like say.
Speaker 6: And I think he loves Teresa, like you said, the.
Speaker 5: Girls love him.
Speaker 6: Why are people still obsessed with trying to like dethrone him?
Speaker 5: Almost?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone on the cast has come from him,
Speaker 3: come for him from the very beginning.
Speaker 4: So it's like you can only take so much where
Speaker 4: you don't.
Speaker 3: Like say something off the wall, especially if you're not,
Speaker 3: like you know, used to the show of things. So
Speaker 3: you know, I know he said that thing about Margaret's son,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think, what like when I think
Speaker 3: about it, He's just been through so much with everyone
Speaker 3: coming for him, for his businesses, for his children, for
Speaker 3: Teresa's children. They gave again a very dangerous person a platform,
Speaker 3: so he doesn't know how to handle it.
Speaker 4: And I feel very bad because he didn't sign up
Speaker 4: for this. He just really loves Teresa.
Speaker 3: But like you guys are saying, his you know, their
Speaker 3: kids adore him, so that tells you everything.
Speaker 4: If they have no concern no one else, should they
Speaker 4: live with him?
Speaker 6: And his own kids too, Like you think that they're
Speaker 6: old enough now, you think they can't decide if they
Speaker 6: don't want to be like have a relationship with their father.
Speaker 6: If their father was such a bad guy, they live
Speaker 6: with him too. They see him all the time too,
Speaker 6: So it just makes no sense. Like from what you're
Speaker 6: seeing his family, his own father, his sisters, they're all
Speaker 6: around him. And if you're a bad person, and if
Speaker 6: you're you have bad ill to people, you wouldn't have
Speaker 6: this like entrage around you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I agree, And listen, I will even say this. I
Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that he said I wish her
Speaker 1: son would suffer, you know, because I think I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to the kids, they should be off limits.
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm pretty sure he may regret it because
Speaker 1: you are in the moment and you're pissed and you're heated.
Speaker 1: So it's not something to like, you know, nail him
Speaker 1: to the crossover, but it was. It did shock me
Speaker 1: to hear that, So listen. I would go on the
Speaker 1: record saying I did not like that. I didn't think
Speaker 1: that was appropriate. But I also know that at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is real life and people
Speaker 1: are talking to the excess of people and involving like
Speaker 1: lawyers and private investigators, like am I watching Daylight NBC?
Speaker 1: Like what in the American Greed true crime series on
Speaker 1: Peacock's special of Jersey?
Speaker 2: Am I watching here? That's not my enjoyment?
Speaker 6: And carls imagine this happened to any other house if
Speaker 6: their man x came on the show or like how
Speaker 6: to be talking to show is keep coming after them,
Speaker 6: they would go crazy. Like Rachel, they called like the
Speaker 6: man boobs Daniel's man boobs, and she went off the wall.
Speaker 6: She threw something like I imagine if this was happening
Speaker 6: to anyone else's husband, what they would do to the production,
Speaker 6: what they would do to the show, Like, they would
Speaker 6: go crazy. And it's because Teresa, like you produced her.
Speaker 6: I think she's very just chill and like go with
Speaker 6: the flow that she's allowed even all of this to
Speaker 6: even happened, like where she didn't put her foot down.
Speaker 5: It's not on her.
Speaker 6: But it's just crazy because if any other housewife had
Speaker 6: this happened to them, they would be going nuts.
Speaker 5: They were doing crazy who.
Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This
Speaker 1: is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's
Speaker 1: get back into the show. So let's get into this
Speaker 1: finale dinner.
Speaker 2: Honey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jennifer Aiden, I'm gonna say this and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to take it back. Jennifer Aiden maybe the top
Speaker 1: ten best housewives of all time?
Speaker 2: Top ten. Yeah, I'm going on a limb. She she
Speaker 2: ask the ability.
Speaker 1: You don't like Kenya Moore can ruff of feathers and
Speaker 1: just like get other people's skin. Jennifer Aiden is similar
Speaker 1: in the sense of she's so witty, she's so quick,
Speaker 1: she's quick with it, she's pretty, she's like wealthy, and
Speaker 1: I think she's a true housewives and she's funny. When
Speaker 1: she went to Teresa and I's live show, I met
Speaker 1: her for the first time there. She's so pretty, she's
Speaker 1: so fun and the entire audience was like fanning out
Speaker 1: over her. She's so delicious to watch. I mean, I
Speaker 1: did not expect Jennifer Legend Aiden to eviscerate Danielle's husband's
Speaker 1: body parts, because listen, the man moves, to me is
Speaker 1: just typical housewife comedy clap back. Like, to me, it's
Speaker 1: not anything. She's not talking about his job up what
Speaker 1: he does for a living, allegedly licking sex toys up
Speaker 1: his ass. You know, like there's certain things where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that may be too far. The fact that she said
Speaker 1: your man has the booths and you have.
Speaker 2: The bra.
Speaker 1: The fuck thinks about that? That moment to me solidify
Speaker 1: like I need her back on the show. But we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the fate of the housewives later. But what
Speaker 1: did you guys think of that? I mean, tense across
Speaker 1: the motherfucking board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she wouldn't have done that though, had Danielle not
Speaker 3: set first. You know, I come home to my husband
Speaker 3: because daniel was trying to throw shade about it in
Speaker 3: the poolhouse, and we know a lot was edited out
Speaker 3: of that scene as well.
Speaker 4: So that's the only.
Speaker 3: Reason Jennifer says something, just like Jennifer says, won't you know,
Speaker 3: won't start now, won't be none? You know, they always start.
Speaker 3: She reacts and she's quick with it, and that's what
Speaker 3: we love. We love to see that.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 5: That was amazing that.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was so epic, was so epic because I mean
Speaker 1: to know that that soundby alone can make a woman
Speaker 1: get up out of her seat and literally, Danielle, I
Speaker 1: like you when I say this, don't take it like seriously.
Speaker 1: It's me being fun, but I'm also being real. Danielle
Speaker 1: studied the playbook of Teresa Judice. So okay, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we saw you on MTV TRL Britney Spears fan out.
Speaker 1: We saw you on was it Jersey Delicious or some
Speaker 1: shit like Danielle, and listen, this is not an insult.
Speaker 2: It's a compliment.
Speaker 1: The way that Beyonce study Diana Ross and Michael Jackson's cool.
Speaker 2: It's okay. You're supposed to study the legends.
Speaker 1: You not only study Brittany Spears to be a pop
Speaker 1: star that didn't go anywhere. So instead you study the
Speaker 1: pop icon of housewives, which is Teresa Judaice. So when
Speaker 1: she got up out of her seat and like did
Speaker 1: exactly what Teresa did to Margaret seasons ago, I'm like, Teresa,
Speaker 1: all of these women are your sons, okay, and you
Speaker 1: raised these girls.
Speaker 2: You are mother.
Speaker 1: You are seriously, this is like your playhouse and all
Speaker 1: of these women are in your playroom. You literally built
Speaker 1: the house that is the Real Housewives of Jersey. So
Speaker 1: when Danielle did that, I'm like Teresa Junior, I can't
Speaker 1: be mad at it. But did you guys think the
Speaker 1: same thing? Like, girlfriend, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4: I do think she's trying to be the young version
Speaker 4: of Teresa.
Speaker 3: I do think she is someone who's always wanted to
Speaker 3: be famous, and so she knows that these kind of
Speaker 3: moments were iconic for Teresa and she wants that too
Speaker 3: to again secure her spot for the next season, Like
Speaker 3: this is really gonna make her as a housewived, change
Speaker 3: her in her husband's life. So I definitely think she
Speaker 3: is taking some tips from Teresa and trying to do
Speaker 3: the same thing. But I did want to ask you,
Speaker 3: because she does throw a picture, we don't actually see
Speaker 3: that happening. As a producer, why do you think that
Speaker 3: they didn't show her throwing it?
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that really fast. So allegedly,
Speaker 1: because I was told this too, that Dangelle allegedly threw
Speaker 1: a glass picture at Jennifer Aden. What we saw was
Speaker 1: more so like pushing the dishes towards her direction.
Speaker 2: Is it true that she?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 2: Okay, so what did you ladies here?
Speaker 3: You're missing apart? Margaret says, she shouldn't have thrown that
Speaker 3: at you. She should, Yes, Jennifer, she shouldn't have thrown
Speaker 3: that at you. I don't agree with that. So Margaret
Speaker 3: says that, which confirms it was thrown at Jennifer.
Speaker 1: So are they saying she picked up a glass picture
Speaker 1: that we see on the kool Aid label and that
Speaker 1: she like threw it in Jennifer's direction.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was glass.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just know that it was
Speaker 3: like a picture thrown at her.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And Margaret literally.
Speaker 3: Says it, and she's like, I don't agree with her
Speaker 3: throwing that at you.
Speaker 6: Like imagine the way that, Like do you think a
Speaker 6: little push of like the plates made production come in
Speaker 6: and like want.
Speaker 5: To grab her, Like why would that have happened?
Speaker 6: You know, like a little push of the plate we
Speaker 6: see them break glasses, but a throw would make production
Speaker 6: have to security come and like escort her out of
Speaker 6: the area.
Speaker 2: Good point. Good point.
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, why was it removed Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm shocked to hear that maybe it was that dangerous
Speaker 1: that they didn't want I mean, but again, I'm from
Speaker 1: old school housewives, like we like I listen, I saw
Speaker 1: Kenya morget her hair pulled from Porsche and dragged across
Speaker 1: the reunion stage, do you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I don't get this sort of removing stuff to make
Speaker 1: someone look good. So I can't even explain to you
Speaker 1: why that would happen if I did indeed happen, because
Speaker 1: I don't come from that world. I literally we saw Ashley,
Speaker 1: Jacqueline's daughter pull Danielle's hair. Now, we also saw Danielle
Speaker 1: grab someone's weave and held her alleged pulled hair from
Speaker 1: a scout in the Confessionals, So again that's what we see.
Speaker 1: So to note that that could have allegedly been removed,
Speaker 1: the only thing I can say to you is maybe
Speaker 1: they're trying to protect Danielle in terms of coming back
Speaker 1: next season because she's a younger housewife and they want
Speaker 1: to make sure the show is at least skewed younger.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that bothers me, because listen, Jennifer Aiden obviously
Speaker 1: is a lot, and that's in a good sense to me.
Speaker 1: But to know that that was not only did she
Speaker 1: have glass slapped in her face, she now had a
Speaker 1: glass picture allegedly a picture thrown in her direction. So
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, Danielle, you need to go on
Speaker 1: Battie's Jersey on zeus. Yeah, and just audition for that show.
Speaker 1: That's more your style, my baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And the fact that Jennifer allowed her to come back
Speaker 6: is like why I think a lot of people love Jennifer,
Speaker 6: because a lot of people would have been like, went crazy,
Speaker 6: like she's not coming back, He'll no take her out
Speaker 6: of Milton and yeah, like people with Milton jumpers like
Speaker 6: it's fine, bring her back and she doesn't phaze me,
Speaker 6: bring her back in like I'm not, I don't give
Speaker 6: a shit.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The moment that shocked me.
Speaker 1: I haven't been this shocked on a housewife show since
Speaker 1: it was revealed Monica Garcia rand a blog, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had no idea that Jackie Golschneider met with Louis
Speaker 1: X in February of twenty twenty one. The thing is this,
Speaker 1: and this is why I always tell me housewives nowadays
Speaker 1: is seriously the game of survivor.
Speaker 2: It's whatever you'll do to like stay on the island.
Speaker 1: The island is housewives, So listen, I like to give
Speaker 1: everyone of their props, and I'm going to give Margaret
Speaker 1: her props.
Speaker 2: Margaret did not hold back.
Speaker 1: I what's crazy is in that very moment when Margaret said, well, Jackie,
Speaker 1: you're the one who met with her, I mean with
Speaker 1: his ex, and Jackie's like, no, no, I'm like, like
Speaker 1: in real time, I'm like, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 2: And then when Melissa.
Speaker 1: Said, Jackie, if you said it, be honest about it,
Speaker 1: because it's going to come out, and then for Dolores
Speaker 1: to sort of repeat that you saw Jackie's.
Speaker 2: Life flash before her eyes. She was Rudolph ritt NOO's
Speaker 2: dear red right.
Speaker 1: I think she thought that, you know that epic scene
Speaker 1: on vander Pum Rules where Stasy like just like was
Speaker 1: sitting next to Kristen and like just like like slapped
Speaker 1: her when she was next to her. I think Jackie
Speaker 1: was like scared that Teresa was going to do that.
Speaker 2: So when she when she delicately it.
Speaker 1: Was like sort of when you are a child and
Speaker 1: you have to fess up to your mom that okay, mom,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Take the cook the cookie jar the way.
Speaker 1: Jackie Golschneider sort of like melted in her seat, looked
Speaker 1: in Teresa's direction and went like, yeah, I met with her.
Speaker 2: I was like, your fucking ladies. I watched it five times.
Speaker 1: I was literally, I'm telling you, I had a Lisa
Speaker 1: Barlow shaking moment.
Speaker 2: I did not expect that. Did you to know that already?
Speaker 5: I did it.
Speaker 4: I thought Margaret was there when that happened.
Speaker 3: So I do think that was a little bit shocking,
Speaker 3: and I'm kind of wondering, is it true Margaret really
Speaker 3: didn't know. I don't believe that she didn't know. I
Speaker 3: don't believe she had found out one week earlier. I
Speaker 3: do believe she had known this for a while, because
Speaker 3: it's weird that Jackie wouldn't have told her that if
Speaker 3: they all can't see Theresa and Margaret's the queen of
Speaker 3: calling people's exes, and we all knew Margaret. Margaret was
Speaker 3: in communication with the X. She gifted the ex a
Speaker 3: bracelet in twenty twenty one. The ex posted it on
Speaker 3: social media.
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, hold on, girlfriend
Speaker 1: Margaret did what.
Speaker 3: Margaret gifted the ex a bracelet and the X is
Speaker 3: very unhinged. Posted on social media and said, I want
Speaker 3: to thank Margaret for giving this to me, tagged her.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean there's receipts of all us.
Speaker 6: So she's a liar when she says she didn't talk
Speaker 6: to her until after the boat the liar.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
Speaker 5: Oh the tea, oh honey.
Speaker 1: And I'm sipping in honey with lemon drops. So I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think Jackie told Dolores, Melissa and Margaret,
Speaker 1: which is why it's no Now it makes sense why
Speaker 1: those three ladies said you need to be honest because
Speaker 1: it's going to come out.
Speaker 2: And I think Jackie knew.
Speaker 1: That if I don't reveal this, Let's be clear. If
Speaker 1: I know that, no one knew about this, this is just.
Speaker 2: Me, honey.
Speaker 1: I'm like going to the lie with my grave, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I die, oh baby, period dot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the fact that Dolores and Melissa was so adamant,
Speaker 1: like you need to be honest before it comes out.
Speaker 2: Let let's just be honest. I agree with you too.
Speaker 2: It just hit me. You're right Jackie told Margaret. Whether
Speaker 2: or not she told Margaret.
Speaker 4: I don't think Dolores knew. I don't think Delus.
Speaker 3: I don't think Dolorus knew Lauras hates Jackie, and Jackie
Speaker 3: would never tell Dolores that Dolores has always hated Jackie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was gonna say that too.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't even think Jackie told
Speaker 1: like Dolores, Margaret, and Melissa. I think Jackie told Margaret,
Speaker 1: and Margaret told everyone else.
Speaker 4: You have to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like guess what she did. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I didn't believe that Margaret's timeline
Speaker 1: did not make sense to me. But this is the
Speaker 1: sad parts. Let's have a real conversation in that very moment.
Speaker 1: We got to be honest here. Margaret, at least in
Speaker 1: that moment, the audience felt she was vindicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you too feel the same way?
Speaker 4: No, because we know that she has been having conversation.
Speaker 3: But we all we know all listen, at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, Teresa has been saying this person's dangerous
Speaker 3: and dangerous to my family, and every single one of
Speaker 3: you have admitted now that you've been in communication with her.
Speaker 5: I think she's been indicated. I think Teresa's viated.
Speaker 3: So I think Teresa's been indicated to be like, here's
Speaker 3: a dangerous person. You guys have taken this so far
Speaker 3: to give this person a platform for us to discuss her,
Speaker 3: knowing that she's this dangerous, knowing that legal thing is
Speaker 3: if like there's so much legal stuff involved.
Speaker 4: And so I.
Speaker 3: Do think Theresa's vindicated because they all spoke to her.
Speaker 3: But Jackie just kind of looked like an idiot because
Speaker 3: she had the opportunity the week before to say something
Speaker 3: and she just didn't when they sat with the attorney.
Speaker 3: So that would have been the perfect opportunity to just
Speaker 3: be honest about it, like no one was innocent here,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's still all like mind boggling though,
Speaker 3: But I mean it was a good It was a
Speaker 3: good scene for like Margaret to be like, here's what
Speaker 3: I have on you.
Speaker 6: Like without knowing what we know, Like if I was
Speaker 6: just a casual, if you were watching it, I would
Speaker 6: be like, dann Margaret really like it looked like she
Speaker 6: had nothing to even touch, like she she didn't just
Speaker 6: stayed away. But how are you so comfortable to call
Speaker 6: this ex and like a week before and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: ry guys, Yeah, how are you so comfortable to call
Speaker 6: the ex a week before and be like, hey, like
Speaker 6: who talked to you or who did this? It's like
Speaker 6: that just shows you've had so much communication with her.
Speaker 2: So talk to me.
Speaker 1: What do you know about Margaret's interactions with the ex?
Speaker 1: What is the timeline that you know that the audience
Speaker 1: isn't aware of because the audience, in their defense, they
Speaker 1: can only base things off of what they're watching on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so from just like Jackie met with her in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one, there was interactions in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact months that she interacted with her,
Speaker 6: but there was an interaction in twenty twenty one. Because
Speaker 6: the acts, just like Melissa has said, the ex did
Speaker 6: DM everybody, like Joe has talked to her. Melissa has
Speaker 6: talked to her. Everybody has talked to this ex because
Speaker 6: she wanted to make sure, like she wanted to get
Speaker 6: her story out about Louis. So she's DMed everybody under
Speaker 6: the sun, and like sometimes it happens, it is what
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 5: But Margaret has talked to her.
Speaker 6: Margaret also has spoken on the phone with her multiple times.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just once and it was all before the bodiitos.
Speaker 6: She got subpoenaed for this because there was an actual
Speaker 6: court case, like there was a you know, louing the
Speaker 6: ex how to go to court, and they subpoenaed her
Speaker 6: because they wanted to They wanted to show that, you know,
Speaker 6: what this ex was doing, contacting Teresa's coworkers essentially, like
Speaker 6: that's like you're talking about like you know, your work now,
Speaker 6: so it's like she's contacting her coworkers. And they wanted
Speaker 6: to show that on record. But then Margaret didn't show
Speaker 6: up to the court to show up to it, so
Speaker 6: it's legal. They saw that you talked to her, and
Speaker 6: it's because of that bracelet thing that shows that she
Speaker 6: did talk to her.
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: What did Margaret ever a knowledge or respond to her
Speaker 1: fans about that post of the X revealing that Margaret
Speaker 1: gave her bracelet.
Speaker 2: No, No, she's not that we've seen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not that we've seen, because they just think it's like,
Speaker 6: you know, this is what we're doing. Margaret again has
Speaker 6: talked to Siggy's ex, remember Siggy's husband at the time,
Speaker 6: she contacted Siggy's X, and that was one thing, Siggy said,
Speaker 6: the production you're not doing, You're not getting my husband's
Speaker 6: ex involved.
Speaker 5: Margaret did that.
Speaker 6: Margaret has clearly found out things about Jennifer Aiden and
Speaker 6: like her husband's past. Like Margaret does that all the time.
Speaker 6: So it's not that crazy that Margaret's going to do
Speaker 6: this with Teresa's husband that they can't stand his exes.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1: Margaret didn't know that Jennifer Aiden's husband cheated on her,
Speaker 1: yes with a with a coworker. So it is plausible
Speaker 1: that obviously Margaret would reach out to the exes because SIGGI,
Speaker 1: first of all, your exclusive with Siggy was so amazing,
Speaker 1: so congratulations, I mean it was fantastic and it like
Speaker 1: blew up the internet. Siggy did reveal to you ladies
Speaker 1: that yes, Margaret reached out to her ex and that's
Speaker 1: when she said, this is enough, Like I'm here to
Speaker 1: have fun and throw cake on the ground and all
Speaker 1: that shit. But like, why do you think Margaret feels
Speaker 1: the need to all of a sudden to play this
Speaker 1: dangerous game of Molly's games.
Speaker 2: So the Molly's game, it's like Margaret's game.
Speaker 5: That's actually to me.
Speaker 6: She ruins the show sometimes, like we're all for fun,
Speaker 6: like the moment she had with Jackie, that's it is fun.
Speaker 5: We're all for fun.
Speaker 6: But for her to like have to go into like
Speaker 6: all these people and in the minute like her son's involved,
Speaker 6: it's like, which is not even true, Like there's still
Speaker 6: no proof that they keep saying that Louis called the
Speaker 6: sun that did not happen. So like for her to
Speaker 6: go crazy when she like it comes in her core,
Speaker 6: but when like she can go do with everyone else,
Speaker 6: that's why to me, she doesn't play fear and she
Speaker 6: ruins the show.
Speaker 3: Carlos, I talked to Siggey today and she told us
Speaker 3: to tell you.
Speaker 2: Hi, Oh, I love her.
Speaker 1: Did she tell you I ran into her like a
Speaker 1: peer one imports or something and.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but she's I said.
Speaker 3: I was like, we're going on Carlos's podcast, and she like,
Speaker 3: make sure you tell them.
Speaker 2: I said, Hi, No, I love Siggy. She was so sweet.
Speaker 1: She said, you're the Carlos King, honey heard so much about.
Speaker 1: We spent like thirty minutes talking and I listen up
Speaker 1: there she's she's such a great doll that I like
Speaker 1: her and I think that's why I'm so sad because
Speaker 1: Jersey was like top tier housewives, right, it was up
Speaker 1: there with like Atlanta, you know, like just comedy and
Speaker 1: drama and.
Speaker 2: Real life stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's saddest me that it's gone to the point
Speaker 1: where it is about the behind the scenes stuff. So
Speaker 1: now that we saw this finale, now that we know
Speaker 1: there's no reunion, what do you think the future of
Speaker 1: Housewives is going to be? Andy Cohen sent on his
Speaker 1: podcast with an over zealous caller, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: was so fun I like lovers.
Speaker 2: She's like, get rid of these Oh, I'm like, sister,
Speaker 2: who are you? Come on my podcast, baby, I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you the entire hour and how that she
Speaker 2: was so funny to me.
Speaker 1: But Andy has said, like, yes, we're thinking about a reboot,
Speaker 1: we're thinking about new girls, we're thinking about keeping some
Speaker 1: What is you'all prediction in terms of who stays and
Speaker 1: who goes? And I will give you guys my exclusive
Speaker 1: prediction too.
Speaker 3: I think they're only going to bring about three people back.
Speaker 3: Because he's talking about a reboot, they're talking about fresh faces,
Speaker 3: so obviously that.
Speaker 4: Means that majority of the cast isn't going to come back.
Speaker 3: I do think that, whether you like Teresa or not,
Speaker 3: as we saw him watch What Happens like, Teresa was
Speaker 3: like the word of the night Teresa. Every scene is
Speaker 3: based on Teresa. It would only make sense if she
Speaker 3: comes back. I would love to see Jennifer come back
Speaker 3: because she's top to your housewife, like she's why we
Speaker 3: watch the Housewives.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I do see Dolores coming back and one of the
Speaker 3: newbies coming back as well.
Speaker 4: I think Melissa is done.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind Margaret coming back, to be quite honest,
Speaker 3: but I also believe she is one hundred percent the
Speaker 3: reason the show is as toxic edited. If I had
Speaker 3: to pick between Margaret and Melissa, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 3: Margaret though, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 6: I honest, I think they're only going to bring back
Speaker 6: two people or reboot it. Like I don't even think
Speaker 6: they're gonna bring back three or four because then you're
Speaker 6: kind of just because the way that they've been all
Speaker 6: been explaining it, the way that they you know, did
Speaker 6: this finale, it's like they're trying to do like the
Speaker 6: end of an era type show. So it's like for
Speaker 6: them to bring back like half the cast, like it
Speaker 6: just wouldn't make sense. And I think that they're going
Speaker 6: to pick two people from either side. I don't think
Speaker 6: they're going to bring back one person from the TREESA
Speaker 6: side and one person from Margaret's side or whoever.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna.
Speaker 6: Bring back two people and then try to get a
Speaker 6: new cast going around those two people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with the both of you, and
Speaker 1: this is my prediction. Who I strongly ninety nine point
Speaker 1: nine percent believe that. Listen, there's no show without Teresa.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because she's my friend. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it because I'm a producer. I create shows, I
Speaker 1: work with networks. Networks are built off of advertising dollars.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a woman in my lifetime, and
Speaker 1: you ladies, tell me if you see if you have
Speaker 1: seen it. I have never seen a woman who is
Speaker 1: truly the face of a show like truly is. We
Speaker 1: talk about Kyle being the face of nine to two
Speaker 1: and zero. I do think and I love Kyle, but
Speaker 1: I do think there's life after Kyle if if she
Speaker 1: decides to leave the show. We see Atlanta Housewives survive
Speaker 1: without Nini, And to me, Nini is Atlanta Housewives. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the show is good or great. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying we've seen it. I don't see a world where
Speaker 1: you have the pinnacle face of a show and to
Speaker 1: know that Andy Combe's best friend in real life. Kelly
Speaker 1: Rippa said on her own podcast, there's no show without you, Teresa.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see Andy.
Speaker 1: Cohen and Kelly Rippa having a battle over who's do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I think that's you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think everyone knows that it's
Speaker 1: Teresa's show. So with that being said, I think Teresa
Speaker 1: comes back. I think Dolores comes back because she's Switzerland.
Speaker 1: I think I think Teresa needs a friend, and I
Speaker 1: think they believe Dolores is the best candidate. I love
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden. Unfortunately, I don't know if they want her back.
Speaker 1: I'm just being on It's not my opinion of whether
Speaker 1: or not she shouldn't. I want her to stay on forever.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Based on what I'm seeing, I
Speaker 1: don't see a world where they invite her back, and
Speaker 1: I think, possibly, possibly, they may keep one of the
Speaker 1: two newbies, Danielle or Rachel but I don't see anything
Speaker 1: beyond that. I think Melissa and Joe knows their time
Speaker 1: is up. I think the reason why you're seeing Joe
Speaker 1: Gorga stressed out is because I think he knows that
Speaker 1: this show he sacrifices the relationship of his sister for
Speaker 1: is done. I think Melissa knows her time is up.
Speaker 1: With that being said, though, I think the networks loves them,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to do other stuff
Speaker 1: like how we see like lu Anne do things and
Speaker 1: Sonya Morgan Derinda. I think they'll do other things, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they will ever ever be back, and
Speaker 1: I think mar I think they may bring Margaret back
Speaker 1: if she decides to sort of come in and not
Speaker 1: be so advantageous to take down to recent Louis, but
Speaker 1: I don't see Margaret coming back either.
Speaker 2: We all believe Jennifer Aiden's a great housewife.
Speaker 1: So before I let you ladies go, do we believe
Speaker 1: that the reason why it is curtains for Jennifer Aiden
Speaker 1: is because of this alleged relationship that she have a
Speaker 1: blogger sitting them screeners, And do you think everybody involved
Speaker 1: in production said enough is enough and that kind of
Speaker 1: stealed her fate.
Speaker 4: I think no matter what, was going to be a change.
Speaker 4: And they said that.
Speaker 3: They kept saying, listen, when Seedson fifteen comes, it's going
Speaker 3: to be a change. We're going to have them all
Speaker 3: together one last time, and then season fifteen, we're going
Speaker 3: to have a big shake up. We've been saying this
Speaker 3: since season thirteen. That's when season fifteen comes. Once we
Speaker 3: knew that everyone was coming back for season fourteen, we said,
Speaker 3: season fifteen is going.
Speaker 4: To be the biggest shake up.
Speaker 3: So I think that no matter what, you know, the
Speaker 3: people like like a Jennifer, maybe she would have never
Speaker 3: been on their list because they were going.
Speaker 4: To have to switch up completely anyways.
Speaker 3: So that's how I look at it, at least, just
Speaker 3: because we know that it was going to be a
Speaker 3: shake up for season fifteen.
Speaker 6: It did seem though, because of the all the blogger
Speaker 6: stuff that they kind of were, you know, erasing some
Speaker 6: of her screen time. And I think she even has
Speaker 6: said it like a lot, like she's been saying it
Speaker 6: a little bit, like you know, with little comments that
Speaker 6: she'll make on Instagram, and so it shows that like
Speaker 6: there's so many things that they cut off, and I
Speaker 6: don't think they did her justice with editing, and I
Speaker 6: think they edited it afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, Agree, Agrey, Well, look, we are going to
Speaker 1: see what happens, but I think we all collectively agree
Speaker 1: and listen. When you're on the same page as Kelly Rippa,
Speaker 1: you must be doing something right. So I think we
Speaker 1: all know that Teresa is going to continue on the show.
Speaker 2: By Melissa.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Melissa, what did you ladies think of her
Speaker 1: calling Teresa white trash and loaning a moment? And I
Speaker 1: felt like Melissa. I tried not to because somebody told me,
Speaker 1: ladies that Melissa thinks you're so hard on her and
Speaker 1: she doesn't understand what she did to you.
Speaker 2: For you to keep talking about her, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: talk about the show.
Speaker 1: I don't dislike you, like I don't know you to
Speaker 1: dislike you, So I tried this season not to like
Speaker 1: go in it. Oh Melissa, Melissa, you made it hard
Speaker 1: for yourself in the finale.
Speaker 2: You wanted a moment so badly from Teresa.
Speaker 1: You called her white trash, she called you a horror response,
Speaker 1: and then you want to say, oh, your niece Antonia,
Speaker 1: you want me to tell her that you called her
Speaker 1: mother a whore.
Speaker 2: It's like you started it, like, and she's.
Speaker 4: A bitch because she's called her.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we can swear this, but she's
Speaker 3: called her the B word. Melissa's called Teresa the B word.
Speaker 3: That's Gia's mom, that's all their moms. So it doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense. But what she does is she tries to
Speaker 3: reach and bring the kids in it. So maybe like
Speaker 3: people will for her.
Speaker 4: Or something, but I just think it was a big reach.
Speaker 3: She wanted a moment because she's honestly been very irrelevant
Speaker 3: this entire season, you know, and we're doing a rewatch.
Speaker 3: We're watching season three and season four, and our biggest
Speaker 3: thing when it comes to Melissa, it's like, not even
Speaker 3: about Teresa. It's about the lies that Melissa spreads, like
Speaker 3: you know, it's about the comments that Melissa constantly would say,
Speaker 3: I pay my bills unlike Teresa, knowing Teresa's going through
Speaker 3: legal stuff. Carlos, if my sister in law said some
Speaker 3: shit like that, I would never look at her. You
Speaker 3: came on my show and you're talking shit about my finances,
Speaker 3: I would never look twice at you ever again. So
Speaker 3: she did all that stuff, you know, she always talked
Speaker 3: about money. People forget because a lot of people are
Speaker 3: casual viewers. But if you watch back from season three
Speaker 3: and four, there's no one who tried harder than Teresa.
Speaker 3: So Melissa is reaching and the the only way she
Speaker 3: can do it is through Teresa, just like she has
Speaker 3: since season three.
Speaker 6: And I will say this, it's funny because in her
Speaker 6: conversation with Joe, she's like, I'm gonna respect her boundaries
Speaker 6: that we have, and the boundaries they have is that
Speaker 6: they're not talking to her and they're not going to cure.
Speaker 6: But the minute she could talk to her, she was
Speaker 6: so excited to get up and like start, start, start
Speaker 6: shit with Teresa.
Speaker 5: And Theresa doesn't even look at you. She literally does
Speaker 5: not look at you.
Speaker 3: She doesn't think about her, She does not think about her.
Speaker 3: You saw she brought cookites.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it bites at her.
Speaker 6: Yes, oh my god, that was the most irrelevant. And
Speaker 6: Jennifer's like, you did not just say sprinkle cookies.
Speaker 2: I know, It's like what els was?
Speaker 3: You were Melissa's Facebook friend when she made a post
Speaker 3: about sprinkle cookies after adding all the producers.
Speaker 4: Isn't that true?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, no, we're Facebook friends.
Speaker 1: I never met the woman and I so again, I
Speaker 1: was just being honest about like and listen, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I just feel like, just be real.
Speaker 1: You wanted to get on the show, and it's fine.
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of like I.
Speaker 2: Would admit to it, like, look, I wanted to be
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 1: I befriended the producer and I wanted my time. And
Speaker 1: I would have said this if I was Melissa, the
Speaker 1: alleged bad bitch that she is. You know, we call
Speaker 1: her m low because she thinks she's Jennifer and it's
Speaker 1: all good in the hood. But ladies, I would have
Speaker 1: said this, I'm such a bad bitch that I got
Speaker 1: on the show and I've been on for more than
Speaker 1: ten seasons.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, like I would.
Speaker 1: I would have been so like whatever, It's not how
Speaker 1: I got on. It's the fact that I stayed on.
Speaker 1: That would have been my tagline. You know, It's not
Speaker 1: how I got on, it's the fact that I stayed on.
Speaker 1: Like Melissa, that should have been her tagline. But the
Speaker 1: fact that you tried to play this victim and the
Speaker 1: woe is me, no one's buying it. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Melissa knew I am so irrelevant on this show
Speaker 1: without getting into a fight with Teresa and then to
Speaker 1: do the ga five year old model posts standoff.
Speaker 5: Oh like I was dying.
Speaker 2: I really couldnot do.
Speaker 5: I couldnot do like she wanted to be, like, do
Speaker 5: you see me like?
Speaker 2: You see me like?
Speaker 4: But Melissa is the most phased.
Speaker 1: Oh she is, because listen, how you get on is
Speaker 1: how you get off. And I think she realized. I
Speaker 1: think Melissa realized I played my cards wrong. I played
Speaker 1: my cards wrong. She would have This is the sad part
Speaker 1: I'm in with this. Melissa. If you're listening, listen up.
Speaker 1: If you if you would have remained in Teresa's corner
Speaker 1: as the doting sister in law, I promise.
Speaker 2: You you would still be on the show.
Speaker 1: Like the show would have been Melissa and Teresa and
Speaker 1: other women, I promise you, because they would have appreciated
Speaker 1: the fact that, yes, at the end of at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the DNA of this show remains
Speaker 1: about family. That's what separates Jersey from New York, OHC,
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Atlanta, Potomac, Beverly Hills is the fact
Speaker 1: that Jersey was about family. And I promise you I
Speaker 1: am ninety nine point nine percent factual. In this Teresa
Speaker 1: and Melissa would have remained on the show if Melissa
Speaker 1: would have played her hand right because they are the
Speaker 1: DNA of the motherfucking show. And the fact that she
Speaker 1: was too busy of Margaret's ass smelling pepto bismo that
Speaker 1: she did not realize it was going to be the
Speaker 1: end of her paycheck.
Speaker 4: But absolutely, Carlos, we say this.
Speaker 3: You know, we blame a lot on Melissa, but it
Speaker 3: really is Joe. Melissa is the way she is because
Speaker 3: of Joe. So you know, Joe allowed this to go
Speaker 3: on like they did, so I really do believe he
Speaker 3: is the biggest problem in all of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that. I agree with that, so listen,
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. I'm so happy to have
Speaker 1: you too on my podcast. This will be the first
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