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Speaker 1: It's me Carlos kings the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we obviously

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Speaker 1: have to talk about that explosive finale of the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've given it a break.

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Speaker 1: I was too busy upoc's ass because it's such a

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Speaker 1: great season. But rain Drops we must talk about. I

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Speaker 1: mean talk about an amazing finale that Jersey hasn't seen

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Speaker 6: It's actually recently you said something like about Dolorous and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our listeners always encourage us to listen to Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: They always say they're like, have you listened? You need

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Speaker 3: to listen to this episode, listen to it now, So

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Speaker 2: Do, well listen.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you to You two are like the Jersey

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Speaker 1: experts as well, and I could not think of doing

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Speaker 1: this episode with anybody. I've been in your podcast before.

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Speaker 1: You guys are such supporters of mine. I'm support of yours,

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Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. I mean, girls, that

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Speaker 1: finale was insane. In the membrane, I'm physically shaking, like

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Speaker 1: calling Vita Liquor sponsors so that I won't get arrested

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Speaker 1: by the US Marshalls. So let's just get right into it.

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Speaker 1: What did you two think about that finale? And did

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Speaker 1: it live up to this moment that we've all been

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: I actually I.

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Speaker 3: Was very invested, and I think that's good because I

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Speaker 3: it was really intense. It was kind of needed to

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Speaker 6: I mean I literally had butterflies in my stomach watching

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Speaker 6: it because I was like nervous shaking because I was like,

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Speaker 6: what is happening? Because like I had to rewatch it

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Speaker 5: Of them getting up, and I loved it.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a great finale and it just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely feel like not only like a season finale,

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Speaker 1: Josephs up it all so I need to know who

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Speaker 2: So her first victim.

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Speaker 1: Was Delores, where she revealed that Delores was invited to

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Speaker 2: You know, let's just call it what it is.

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Speaker 1: Delores reaction when she called her the C word see

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Speaker 1: Felt like, okay, do I believe Dolores or is Dolores

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I believe Dolores, because why would Dolores be

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Speaker 4: You're not playing with me. So I do believe Dolores here.

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Speaker 3: I believe that Margaret is making that up because Margaret

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Speaker 6: But I also I've been telling Raxcy and I think

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Speaker 5: The little blow up. But I still think Dolores is

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Speaker 6: And I think that Margaret just wants to make Teresa

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the reason why I listen

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Speaker 2: This isn't what.

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Speaker 1: I produced, do you know what I mean? It's still

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Speaker 1: that is not at all about friendships. Is truly about

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Speaker 2: And that's not.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you too.

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Speaker 1: Dolores immediate reaction to me displayed that Margaret was lying.

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Speaker 1: And the way Margaret sort of clocked Jackie's tea, which

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Speaker 2: She did not have that same energy with Dolores.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that de Laura's called her, I mean

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Speaker 1: Do you say Margaret underestimated that Delores is not somebody

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she got so scared.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, she didn't expect Dolores's reaction, and she's like, I

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Speaker 3: So she really backed the hell down and that told

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Speaker 4: She wouldn't have backed down, just like you said with

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Speaker 3: But I have a question because you're a producer, and

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Speaker 3: when you were producing New Jersey, didn't they have like

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like there's so much pressure to deliver

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Speaker 3: So you kind of have to understand where they're coming from.

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Speaker 3: But when you were on the show, didn't you guys

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Speaker 3: give Housewives like a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen, anybody who's on the show, they have options, right,

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Speaker 2: When you are reality star, you.

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Speaker 1: Can have a second life, a second win post forty.

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Speaker 1: And what that means is you are immedially famous, you're

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Speaker 1: it reaks U desperation to keep it. Listen, I have

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Speaker 1: no issue with Jackie Goldschneider. She's great television. But I

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Speaker 3: I do think though, that Jackie did realize she was

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Speaker 4: They stopped calling her, they.

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Speaker 3: Stopped being loyal, and she was like, wait, is this

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Speaker 3: this was never authentic, Like I.

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Speaker 1: He said, out of his own mouth, My father said

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Speaker 2: You. I think it's I think it's super sad and

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Speaker 6: I think too, it's like a lot of people's relationships

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Speaker 5: Are you guys doing something? It's something that do I

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Speaker 6: And if they say no, don't worry about it, then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Joe.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have the same energy he used to have,

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Speaker 3: Tried to throw shades, so he doesn't care about what

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Speaker 3: And he said, if my sister was really going through something,

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Speaker 4: And it's like, well, what about you, Joe.

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Speaker 3: We've never heard anything that you're going through, so why

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Speaker 4: Like this is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: They brought a dangerous person who's been harassing Teresa's children

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Speaker 4: Everyone? Look where everyone's at now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's saddest me because look, I think that if

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, please find me the black version of Jennifer

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Speaker 1: He's been nothing but sweet to me. Teresa looks happy.

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Speaker 1: I've always said this in nauseum. Teresa's children have great

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Speaker 2: Show are you watching? Because I don't think it's Louie's fault.

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Speaker 6: I think we've met Louis twan like, like everything you

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Speaker 5: He's been nothing but great to us as.

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Speaker 6: Well, and like he's and what we were at Brava

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Speaker 6: So I really don't understand like the hate, but I

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Speaker 6: when he talks like how people are going to spend things,

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Speaker 5: A lot, and it doesn't. It doesn't.

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Speaker 6: The way they edit it or the way he comes

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Speaker 6: And I think he loves Teresa, like you said, the.

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Speaker 5: Girls love him.

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Speaker 6: Why are people still obsessed with trying to like dethrone him?

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Speaker 5: Almost?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone on the cast has come from him,

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Speaker 4: So it's like you can only take so much where

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Speaker 3: Like say something off the wall, especially if you're not,

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Speaker 4: And I feel very bad because he didn't sign up

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Speaker 3: But like you guys are saying, his you know, their

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Speaker 4: If they have no concern no one else, should they

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Speaker 6: And his own kids too, Like you think that they're

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Speaker 6: So it just makes no sense. Like from what you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And listen, I will even say this. I

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Speaker 2: Am I watching here? That's not my enjoyment?

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Speaker 6: And carls imagine this happened to any other house if

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Speaker 6: they would go crazy. Like Rachel, they called like the

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Speaker 6: She threw something like I imagine if this was happening

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Speaker 6: I think she's very just chill and like go with

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Speaker 5: It's not on her.

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Speaker 6: But it's just crazy because if any other housewife had

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Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This

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Speaker 1: is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's

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Speaker 1: get back into the show. So let's get into this

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Speaker 1: finale dinner.

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Speaker 2: Honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jennifer Aiden, I'm gonna say this and I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to take it back. Jennifer Aiden maybe the top

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Speaker 1: ten best housewives of all time?

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Speaker 2: Top ten. Yeah, I'm going on a limb. She she

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Speaker 2: ask the ability.

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Speaker 1: You don't like Kenya Moore can ruff of feathers and

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Speaker 1: just like get other people's skin. Jennifer Aiden is similar

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Speaker 1: in the sense of she's so witty, she's so quick,

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Speaker 1: she's quick with it, she's pretty, she's like wealthy, and

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Speaker 1: I think she's a true housewives and she's funny. When

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Speaker 1: she went to Teresa and I's live show, I met

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Speaker 1: her for the first time there. She's so pretty, she's

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Speaker 1: so fun and the entire audience was like fanning out

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Speaker 1: over her. She's so delicious to watch. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: did not expect Jennifer Legend Aiden to eviscerate Danielle's husband's

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Speaker 1: body parts, because listen, the man moves, to me is

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Speaker 1: just typical housewife comedy clap back. Like, to me, it's

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Speaker 1: not anything. She's not talking about his job up what

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Speaker 1: he does for a living, allegedly licking sex toys up

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Speaker 1: his ass. You know, like there's certain things where you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that may be too far. The fact that she said

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Speaker 1: your man has the booths and you have.

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Speaker 2: The bra.

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Speaker 1: The fuck thinks about that? That moment to me solidify

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Speaker 1: like I need her back on the show. But we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the fate of the housewives later. But what

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Speaker 1: did you guys think of that? I mean, tense across

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Speaker 1: the motherfucking board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she wouldn't have done that though, had Danielle not

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Speaker 3: set first. You know, I come home to my husband

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Speaker 3: because daniel was trying to throw shade about it in

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Speaker 3: the poolhouse, and we know a lot was edited out

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Speaker 3: of that scene as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's the only.

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Speaker 3: Reason Jennifer says something, just like Jennifer says, won't you know,

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Speaker 3: won't start now, won't be none? You know, they always start.

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Speaker 3: She reacts and she's quick with it, and that's what

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Speaker 3: we love. We love to see that.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: That was amazing that.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was so epic, was so epic because I mean

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Speaker 1: to know that that soundby alone can make a woman

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Speaker 1: get up out of her seat and literally, Danielle, I

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Speaker 1: like you when I say this, don't take it like seriously.

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Speaker 1: It's me being fun, but I'm also being real. Danielle

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Speaker 1: studied the playbook of Teresa Judice. So okay, okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: we saw you on MTV TRL Britney Spears fan out.

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Speaker 1: We saw you on was it Jersey Delicious or some

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Speaker 1: shit like Danielle, and listen, this is not an insult.

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Speaker 2: It's a compliment.

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Speaker 1: The way that Beyonce study Diana Ross and Michael Jackson's cool.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. You're supposed to study the legends.

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Speaker 1: You not only study Brittany Spears to be a pop

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Speaker 1: star that didn't go anywhere. So instead you study the

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Speaker 1: pop icon of housewives, which is Teresa Judaice. So when

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Speaker 1: she got up out of her seat and like did

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Speaker 1: exactly what Teresa did to Margaret seasons ago, I'm like, Teresa,

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Speaker 1: all of these women are your sons, okay, and you

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Speaker 1: raised these girls.

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Speaker 2: You are mother.

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Speaker 1: You are seriously, this is like your playhouse and all

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Speaker 1: of these women are in your playroom. You literally built

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Speaker 1: the house that is the Real Housewives of Jersey. So

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Speaker 1: when Danielle did that, I'm like Teresa Junior, I can't

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Speaker 1: be mad at it. But did you guys think the

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Speaker 1: same thing? Like, girlfriend, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: I do think she's trying to be the young version

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Speaker 4: of Teresa.

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Speaker 3: I do think she is someone who's always wanted to

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Speaker 3: be famous, and so she knows that these kind of

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Speaker 3: moments were iconic for Teresa and she wants that too

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Speaker 3: to again secure her spot for the next season, Like

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Speaker 3: this is really gonna make her as a housewived, change

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Speaker 3: her in her husband's life. So I definitely think she

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Speaker 3: is taking some tips from Teresa and trying to do

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Speaker 3: the same thing. But I did want to ask you,

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Speaker 3: because she does throw a picture, we don't actually see

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Speaker 3: that happening. As a producer, why do you think that

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Speaker 3: they didn't show her throwing it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that really fast. So allegedly,

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Speaker 1: because I was told this too, that Dangelle allegedly threw

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Speaker 1: a glass picture at Jennifer Aden. What we saw was

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Speaker 1: more so like pushing the dishes towards her direction.

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Speaker 2: Is it true that she?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what did you ladies here?

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Speaker 3: You're missing apart? Margaret says, she shouldn't have thrown that

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Speaker 3: at you. She should, Yes, Jennifer, she shouldn't have thrown

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Speaker 3: that at you. I don't agree with that. So Margaret

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Speaker 3: says that, which confirms it was thrown at Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: So are they saying she picked up a glass picture

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Speaker 1: that we see on the kool Aid label and that

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Speaker 1: she like threw it in Jennifer's direction.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was glass.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just know that it was

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Speaker 3: like a picture thrown at her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And Margaret literally.

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Speaker 3: Says it, and she's like, I don't agree with her

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Speaker 3: throwing that at you.

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Speaker 6: Like imagine the way that, Like do you think a

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Speaker 6: little push of like the plates made production come in

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Speaker 6: and like want.

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Speaker 5: To grab her, Like why would that have happened?

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Speaker 6: You know, like a little push of the plate we

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Speaker 6: see them break glasses, but a throw would make production

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Speaker 6: have to security come and like escort her out of

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Speaker 6: the area.

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Speaker 2: Good point. Good point.

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Speaker 1: So to answer your question, why was it removed Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked to hear that maybe it was that dangerous

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Speaker 1: that they didn't want I mean, but again, I'm from

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Speaker 1: old school housewives, like we like I listen, I saw

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Speaker 1: Kenya morget her hair pulled from Porsche and dragged across

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Speaker 1: the reunion stage, do you know what I mean? So

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Speaker 1: I don't get this sort of removing stuff to make

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Speaker 1: someone look good. So I can't even explain to you

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Speaker 1: why that would happen if I did indeed happen, because

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Speaker 1: I don't come from that world. I literally we saw Ashley,

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Speaker 1: Jacqueline's daughter pull Danielle's hair. Now, we also saw Danielle

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Speaker 1: grab someone's weave and held her alleged pulled hair from

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Speaker 1: a scout in the Confessionals, So again that's what we see.

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Speaker 1: So to note that that could have allegedly been removed,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I can say to you is maybe

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Speaker 1: they're trying to protect Danielle in terms of coming back

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Speaker 1: next season because she's a younger housewife and they want

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Speaker 1: to make sure the show is at least skewed younger.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that bothers me, because listen, Jennifer Aiden obviously

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Speaker 1: is a lot, and that's in a good sense to me.

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Speaker 1: But to know that that was not only did she

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Speaker 1: have glass slapped in her face, she now had a

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Speaker 1: glass picture allegedly a picture thrown in her direction. So

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like, Danielle, you need to go on

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Speaker 1: Battie's Jersey on zeus. Yeah, and just audition for that show.

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Speaker 1: That's more your style, my baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And the fact that Jennifer allowed her to come back

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Speaker 6: is like why I think a lot of people love Jennifer,

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Speaker 6: because a lot of people would have been like, went crazy,

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Speaker 6: like she's not coming back, He'll no take her out

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Speaker 6: of Milton and yeah, like people with Milton jumpers like

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Speaker 6: it's fine, bring her back and she doesn't phaze me,

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Speaker 6: bring her back in like I'm not, I don't give

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Speaker 6: a shit.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The moment that shocked me.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been this shocked on a housewife show since

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Speaker 1: it was revealed Monica Garcia rand a blog, Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that Jackie Golschneider met with Louis

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Speaker 1: X in February of twenty twenty one. The thing is this,

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Speaker 1: and this is why I always tell me housewives nowadays

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Speaker 1: is seriously the game of survivor.

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Speaker 2: It's whatever you'll do to like stay on the island.

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Speaker 1: The island is housewives, So listen, I like to give

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Speaker 1: everyone of their props, and I'm going to give Margaret

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Speaker 1: her props.

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Speaker 2: Margaret did not hold back.

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Speaker 1: I what's crazy is in that very moment when Margaret said, well, Jackie,

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Speaker 1: you're the one who met with her, I mean with

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Speaker 1: his ex, and Jackie's like, no, no, I'm like, like

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Speaker 1: in real time, I'm like, okay, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: And then when Melissa.

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Speaker 1: Said, Jackie, if you said it, be honest about it,

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Speaker 1: because it's going to come out, and then for Dolores

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Speaker 1: to sort of repeat that you saw Jackie's.

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Speaker 2: Life flash before her eyes. She was Rudolph ritt NOO's

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Speaker 2: dear red right.

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Speaker 1: I think she thought that, you know that epic scene

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Speaker 1: on vander Pum Rules where Stasy like just like was

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Speaker 1: sitting next to Kristen and like just like like slapped

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Speaker 1: her when she was next to her. I think Jackie

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Speaker 1: was like scared that Teresa was going to do that.

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Speaker 2: So when she when she delicately it.

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Speaker 1: Was like sort of when you are a child and

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Speaker 1: you have to fess up to your mom that okay, mom,

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: Take the cook the cookie jar the way.

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Speaker 1: Jackie Golschneider sort of like melted in her seat, looked

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Speaker 1: in Teresa's direction and went like, yeah, I met with her.

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Speaker 2: I was like, your fucking ladies. I watched it five times.

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Speaker 1: I was literally, I'm telling you, I had a Lisa

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Speaker 1: Barlow shaking moment.

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Speaker 2: I did not expect that. Did you to know that already?

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Speaker 5: I did it.

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Speaker 4: I thought Margaret was there when that happened.

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Speaker 3: So I do think that was a little bit shocking,

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Speaker 3: and I'm kind of wondering, is it true Margaret really

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Speaker 3: didn't know. I don't believe that she didn't know. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe she had found out one week earlier. I

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Speaker 3: do believe she had known this for a while, because

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Speaker 3: it's weird that Jackie wouldn't have told her that if

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Speaker 3: they all can't see Theresa and Margaret's the queen of

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Speaker 3: calling people's exes, and we all knew Margaret. Margaret was

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Speaker 3: in communication with the X. She gifted the ex a

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Speaker 3: bracelet in twenty twenty one. The ex posted it on

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Speaker 3: social media.

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Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, hold on, girlfriend

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Speaker 1: Margaret did what.

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Speaker 3: Margaret gifted the ex a bracelet and the X is

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Speaker 3: very unhinged. Posted on social media and said, I want

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Speaker 3: to thank Margaret for giving this to me, tagged her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's receipts of all us.

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Speaker 6: So she's a liar when she says she didn't talk

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Speaker 6: to her until after the boat the liar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow.

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Speaker 5: Oh the tea, oh honey.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sipping in honey with lemon drops. So I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. I think Jackie told Dolores, Melissa and Margaret,

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Speaker 1: which is why it's no Now it makes sense why

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Speaker 1: those three ladies said you need to be honest because

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Speaker 1: it's going to come out.

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Speaker 2: And I think Jackie knew.

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Speaker 1: That if I don't reveal this, Let's be clear. If

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Speaker 1: I know that, no one knew about this, this is just.

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Speaker 2: Me, honey.

662
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm like going to the lie with my grave, you

663
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I die, oh baby, period dot.

664
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

665
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that Dolores and Melissa was so adamant,

666
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: like you need to be honest before it comes out.

667
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: Let let's just be honest. I agree with you too.

668
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: It just hit me. You're right Jackie told Margaret. Whether

669
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: or not she told Margaret.

670
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't think Dolores knew. I don't think Delus.

671
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't think Dolorus knew Lauras hates Jackie, and Jackie

672
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: would never tell Dolores that Dolores has always hated Jackie.

673
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was gonna say that too.

674
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't even think Jackie told

675
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: like Dolores, Margaret, and Melissa. I think Jackie told Margaret,

676
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: and Margaret told everyone else.

677
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: You have to see that.

678
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like guess what she did. But

679
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I didn't believe that Margaret's timeline

680
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: did not make sense to me. But this is the

681
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: sad parts. Let's have a real conversation in that very moment.

682
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: We got to be honest here. Margaret, at least in

683
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: that moment, the audience felt she was vindicated.

684
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you too feel the same way?

685
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: No, because we know that she has been having conversation.

686
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: But we all we know all listen, at the end

687
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: of the day, Teresa has been saying this person's dangerous

688
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: and dangerous to my family, and every single one of

689
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: you have admitted now that you've been in communication with her.

690
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 5: I think she's been indicated. I think Teresa's viated.

691
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: So I think Teresa's been indicated to be like, here's

692
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: a dangerous person. You guys have taken this so far

693
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: to give this person a platform for us to discuss her,

694
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: knowing that she's this dangerous, knowing that legal thing is

695
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: if like there's so much legal stuff involved.

696
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: And so I.

697
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: Do think Theresa's vindicated because they all spoke to her.

698
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: But Jackie just kind of looked like an idiot because

699
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: she had the opportunity the week before to say something

700
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: and she just didn't when they sat with the attorney.

701
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: So that would have been the perfect opportunity to just

702
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: be honest about it, like no one was innocent here,

703
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: and you know, it's still all like mind boggling though,

704
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: But I mean it was a good It was a

705
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: good scene for like Margaret to be like, here's what

706
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: I have on you.

707
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: Like without knowing what we know, Like if I was

708
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 6: just a casual, if you were watching it, I would

709
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 6: be like, dann Margaret really like it looked like she

710
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 6: had nothing to even touch, like she she didn't just

711
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 6: stayed away. But how are you so comfortable to call

712
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: this ex and like a week before and be like, hey,

713
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 6: ry guys, Yeah, how are you so comfortable to call

714
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: the ex a week before and be like, hey, like

715
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 6: who talked to you or who did this? It's like

716
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: that just shows you've had so much communication with her.

717
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: So talk to me.

718
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: What do you know about Margaret's interactions with the ex?

719
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: What is the timeline that you know that the audience

720
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: isn't aware of because the audience, in their defense, they

721
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: can only base things off of what they're watching on

722
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: the show.

723
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so from just like Jackie met with her in

724
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one, there was interactions in twenty twenty one.

725
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact months that she interacted with her,

726
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 6: but there was an interaction in twenty twenty one. Because

727
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 6: the acts, just like Melissa has said, the ex did

728
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 6: DM everybody, like Joe has talked to her. Melissa has

729
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 6: talked to her. Everybody has talked to this ex because

730
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 6: she wanted to make sure, like she wanted to get

731
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 6: her story out about Louis. So she's DMed everybody under

732
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: the sun, and like sometimes it happens, it is what

733
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 6: it is.

734
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: But Margaret has talked to her.

735
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 6: Margaret also has spoken on the phone with her multiple times.

736
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: It wasn't just once and it was all before the bodiitos.

737
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 6: She got subpoenaed for this because there was an actual

738
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 6: court case, like there was a you know, louing the

739
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 6: ex how to go to court, and they subpoenaed her

740
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 6: because they wanted to They wanted to show that, you know,

741
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 6: what this ex was doing, contacting Teresa's coworkers essentially, like

742
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 6: that's like you're talking about like you know, your work now,

743
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 6: so it's like she's contacting her coworkers. And they wanted

744
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 6: to show that on record. But then Margaret didn't show

745
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 6: up to the court to show up to it, so

746
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: it's legal. They saw that you talked to her, and

747
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 6: it's because of that bracelet thing that shows that she

748
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 6: did talk to her.

749
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one.

750
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: What did Margaret ever a knowledge or respond to her

751
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: fans about that post of the X revealing that Margaret

752
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: gave her bracelet.

753
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 2: No, No, she's not that we've seen.

754
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, not that we've seen, because they just think it's like,

755
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 6: you know, this is what we're doing. Margaret again has

756
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 6: talked to Siggy's ex, remember Siggy's husband at the time,

757
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: she contacted Siggy's X, and that was one thing, Siggy said,

758
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 6: the production you're not doing, You're not getting my husband's

759
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 6: ex involved.

760
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: Margaret did that.

761
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 6: Margaret has clearly found out things about Jennifer Aiden and

762
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 6: like her husband's past. Like Margaret does that all the time.

763
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 6: So it's not that crazy that Margaret's going to do

764
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: this with Teresa's husband that they can't stand his exes.

765
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that.

766
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: Margaret didn't know that Jennifer Aiden's husband cheated on her,

767
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: yes with a with a coworker. So it is plausible

768
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: that obviously Margaret would reach out to the exes because SIGGI,

769
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: first of all, your exclusive with Siggy was so amazing,

770
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: so congratulations, I mean it was fantastic and it like

771
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: blew up the internet. Siggy did reveal to you ladies

772
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: that yes, Margaret reached out to her ex and that's

773
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: when she said, this is enough, Like I'm here to

774
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: have fun and throw cake on the ground and all

775
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: that shit. But like, why do you think Margaret feels

776
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: the need to all of a sudden to play this

777
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: dangerous game of Molly's games.

778
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: So the Molly's game, it's like Margaret's game.

779
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: That's actually to me.

780
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 6: She ruins the show sometimes, like we're all for fun,

781
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: like the moment she had with Jackie, that's it is fun.

782
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 5: We're all for fun.

783
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: But for her to like have to go into like

784
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 6: all these people and in the minute like her son's involved,

785
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 6: it's like, which is not even true, Like there's still

786
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 6: no proof that they keep saying that Louis called the

787
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: sun that did not happen. So like for her to

788
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: go crazy when she like it comes in her core,

789
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 6: but when like she can go do with everyone else,

790
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: that's why to me, she doesn't play fear and she

791
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 6: ruins the show.

792
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: Carlos, I talked to Siggey today and she told us

793
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: to tell you.

794
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: Hi, Oh, I love her.

795
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: Did she tell you I ran into her like a

796
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: peer one imports or something and.

797
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but she's I said.

798
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: I was like, we're going on Carlos's podcast, and she like,

799
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: make sure you tell them.

800
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: I said, Hi, No, I love Siggy. She was so sweet.

801
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: She said, you're the Carlos King, honey heard so much about.

802
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: We spent like thirty minutes talking and I listen up

803
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: there she's she's such a great doll that I like

804
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: her and I think that's why I'm so sad because

805
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Jersey was like top tier housewives, right, it was up

806
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: there with like Atlanta, you know, like just comedy and

807
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: drama and.

808
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: Real life stuff.

809
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: And it's saddest me that it's gone to the point

810
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: where it is about the behind the scenes stuff. So

811
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: now that we saw this finale, now that we know

812
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: there's no reunion, what do you think the future of

813
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: Housewives is going to be? Andy Cohen sent on his

814
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: podcast with an over zealous caller, who, by the way,

815
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: was so fun I like lovers.

816
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: She's like, get rid of these Oh, I'm like, sister,

817
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: who are you? Come on my podcast, baby, I'll give you.

818
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you the entire hour and how that she

819
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: was so funny to me.

820
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: But Andy has said, like, yes, we're thinking about a reboot,

821
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: we're thinking about new girls, we're thinking about keeping some

822
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: What is you'all prediction in terms of who stays and

823
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: who goes? And I will give you guys my exclusive

824
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: prediction too.

825
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: I think they're only going to bring about three people back.

826
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Because he's talking about a reboot, they're talking about fresh faces,

827
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: so obviously that.

828
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: Means that majority of the cast isn't going to come back.

829
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: I do think that, whether you like Teresa or not,

830
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: as we saw him watch What Happens like, Teresa was

831
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: like the word of the night Teresa. Every scene is

832
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: based on Teresa. It would only make sense if she

833
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: comes back. I would love to see Jennifer come back

834
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: because she's top to your housewife, like she's why we

835
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: watch the Housewives.

836
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: You know.

837
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: I do see Dolores coming back and one of the

838
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 3: newbies coming back as well.

839
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: I think Melissa is done.

840
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind Margaret coming back, to be quite honest,

841
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: but I also believe she is one hundred percent the

842
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: reason the show is as toxic edited. If I had

843
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: to pick between Margaret and Melissa, I'm gonna go with

844
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: Margaret though, Okay, yeah.

845
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 6: I honest, I think they're only going to bring back

846
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 6: two people or reboot it. Like I don't even think

847
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 6: they're gonna bring back three or four because then you're

848
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 6: kind of just because the way that they've been all

849
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 6: been explaining it, the way that they you know, did

850
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 6: this finale, it's like they're trying to do like the

851
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 6: end of an era type show. So it's like for

852
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 6: them to bring back like half the cast, like it

853
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: just wouldn't make sense. And I think that they're going

854
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: to pick two people from either side. I don't think

855
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 6: they're going to bring back one person from the TREESA

856
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: side and one person from Margaret's side or whoever.

857
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna.

858
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 6: Bring back two people and then try to get a

859
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: new cast going around those two people.

860
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with the both of you, and

861
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: this is my prediction. Who I strongly ninety nine point

862
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: nine percent believe that. Listen, there's no show without Teresa.

863
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because she's my friend. I'm

864
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: saying it because I'm a producer. I create shows, I

865
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: work with networks. Networks are built off of advertising dollars.

866
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: I have never seen a woman in my lifetime, and

867
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: you ladies, tell me if you see if you have

868
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: seen it. I have never seen a woman who is

869
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: truly the face of a show like truly is. We

870
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: talk about Kyle being the face of nine to two

871
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: and zero. I do think and I love Kyle, but

872
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: I do think there's life after Kyle if if she

873
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: decides to leave the show. We see Atlanta Housewives survive

874
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: without Nini, And to me, Nini is Atlanta Housewives. I'm

875
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: not saying the show is good or great. I'm just

876
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: saying we've seen it. I don't see a world where

877
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: you have the pinnacle face of a show and to

878
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: know that Andy Combe's best friend in real life. Kelly

879
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Rippa said on her own podcast, there's no show without you, Teresa.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see Andy.

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Speaker 1: Cohen and Kelly Rippa having a battle over who's do

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

883
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: I think that's you know.

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00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I think everyone knows that it's

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Speaker 1: Teresa's show. So with that being said, I think Teresa

886
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: comes back. I think Dolores comes back because she's Switzerland.

887
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Teresa needs a friend, and I

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00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: think they believe Dolores is the best candidate. I love

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden. Unfortunately, I don't know if they want her back.

890
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm just being on It's not my opinion of whether

891
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: or not she shouldn't. I want her to stay on forever.

892
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Based on what I'm seeing, I

893
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: don't see a world where they invite her back, and

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00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: I think, possibly, possibly, they may keep one of the

895
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: two newbies, Danielle or Rachel but I don't see anything

896
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: beyond that. I think Melissa and Joe knows their time

897
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: is up. I think the reason why you're seeing Joe

898
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Gorga stressed out is because I think he knows that

899
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: this show he sacrifices the relationship of his sister for

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00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: is done. I think Melissa knows her time is up.

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00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: With that being said, though, I think the networks loves them,

902
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to do other stuff

903
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: like how we see like lu Anne do things and

904
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Speaker 1: Sonya Morgan Derinda. I think they'll do other things, but

905
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Speaker 1: I don't think they will ever ever be back, and

906
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: I think mar I think they may bring Margaret back

907
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: if she decides to sort of come in and not

908
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: be so advantageous to take down to recent Louis, but

909
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Speaker 1: I don't see Margaret coming back either.

910
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Speaker 2: We all believe Jennifer Aiden's a great housewife.

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00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: So before I let you ladies go, do we believe

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Speaker 1: that the reason why it is curtains for Jennifer Aiden

913
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: is because of this alleged relationship that she have a

914
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Speaker 1: blogger sitting them screeners, And do you think everybody involved

915
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: in production said enough is enough and that kind of

916
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: stealed her fate.

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Speaker 4: I think no matter what, was going to be a change.

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Speaker 4: And they said that.

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Speaker 3: They kept saying, listen, when Seedson fifteen comes, it's going

920
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: to be a change. We're going to have them all

921
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Speaker 3: together one last time, and then season fifteen, we're going

922
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: to have a big shake up. We've been saying this

923
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: since season thirteen. That's when season fifteen comes. Once we

924
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: knew that everyone was coming back for season fourteen, we said,

925
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Speaker 3: season fifteen is going.

926
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Speaker 4: To be the biggest shake up.

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Speaker 3: So I think that no matter what, you know, the

928
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Speaker 3: people like like a Jennifer, maybe she would have never

929
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Speaker 3: been on their list because they were going.

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Speaker 4: To have to switch up completely anyways.

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Speaker 3: So that's how I look at it, at least, just

932
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Speaker 3: because we know that it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: shake up for season fifteen.

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Speaker 6: It did seem though, because of the all the blogger

935
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Speaker 6: stuff that they kind of were, you know, erasing some

936
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Speaker 6: of her screen time. And I think she even has

937
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: said it like a lot, like she's been saying it

938
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Speaker 6: a little bit, like you know, with little comments that

939
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Speaker 6: she'll make on Instagram, and so it shows that like

940
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 6: there's so many things that they cut off, and I

941
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 6: don't think they did her justice with editing, and I

942
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 6: think they edited it afterwards.

943
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Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, Agree, Agrey, Well, look, we are going to

944
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: see what happens, but I think we all collectively agree

945
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: and listen. When you're on the same page as Kelly Rippa,

946
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: you must be doing something right. So I think we

947
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Speaker 1: all know that Teresa is going to continue on the show.

948
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Speaker 2: By Melissa.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Melissa, what did you ladies think of her

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Speaker 1: calling Teresa white trash and loaning a moment? And I

951
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: felt like Melissa. I tried not to because somebody told me,

952
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: ladies that Melissa thinks you're so hard on her and

953
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: she doesn't understand what she did to you.

954
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: For you to keep talking about her, I'm like, I

955
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: talk about the show.

956
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't dislike you, like I don't know you to

957
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: dislike you, So I tried this season not to like

958
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: go in it. Oh Melissa, Melissa, you made it hard

959
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: for yourself in the finale.

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00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: You wanted a moment so badly from Teresa.

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Speaker 1: You called her white trash, she called you a horror response,

962
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: and then you want to say, oh, your niece Antonia,

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00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: you want me to tell her that you called her

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00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: mother a whore.

965
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: It's like you started it, like, and she's.

966
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: A bitch because she's called her.

967
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if we can swear this, but she's

968
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: called her the B word. Melissa's called Teresa the B word.

969
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: That's Gia's mom, that's all their moms. So it doesn't

970
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: make sense. But what she does is she tries to

971
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: reach and bring the kids in it. So maybe like

972
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Speaker 3: people will for her.

973
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Speaker 4: Or something, but I just think it was a big reach.

974
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: She wanted a moment because she's honestly been very irrelevant

975
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: this entire season, you know, and we're doing a rewatch.

976
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: We're watching season three and season four, and our biggest

977
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: thing when it comes to Melissa, it's like, not even

978
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: about Teresa. It's about the lies that Melissa spreads, like

979
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, it's about the comments that Melissa constantly would say,

980
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: I pay my bills unlike Teresa, knowing Teresa's going through

981
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: legal stuff. Carlos, if my sister in law said some

982
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: shit like that, I would never look at her. You

983
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: came on my show and you're talking shit about my finances,

984
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: I would never look twice at you ever again. So

985
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: she did all that stuff, you know, she always talked

986
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: about money. People forget because a lot of people are

987
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: casual viewers. But if you watch back from season three

988
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: and four, there's no one who tried harder than Teresa.

989
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: So Melissa is reaching and the the only way she

990
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: can do it is through Teresa, just like she has

991
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: since season three.

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00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 6: And I will say this, it's funny because in her

993
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 6: conversation with Joe, she's like, I'm gonna respect her boundaries

994
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 6: that we have, and the boundaries they have is that

995
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 6: they're not talking to her and they're not going to cure.

996
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 6: But the minute she could talk to her, she was

997
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 6: so excited to get up and like start, start, start

998
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 6: shit with Teresa.

999
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 5: And Theresa doesn't even look at you. She literally does

1000
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: not look at you.

1001
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: She doesn't think about her, She does not think about her.

1002
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: You saw she brought cookites.

1003
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it bites at her.

1004
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 6: Yes, oh my god, that was the most irrelevant. And

1005
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 6: Jennifer's like, you did not just say sprinkle cookies.

1006
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: I know, It's like what els was?

1007
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: You were Melissa's Facebook friend when she made a post

1008
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: about sprinkle cookies after adding all the producers.

1009
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: Isn't that true?

1010
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, no, we're Facebook friends.

1011
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: I never met the woman and I so again, I

1012
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: was just being honest about like and listen, it is

1013
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: what it is. I just feel like, just be real.

1014
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: You wanted to get on the show, and it's fine.

1015
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of like I.

1016
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: Would admit to it, like, look, I wanted to be

1017
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: on the show.

1018
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: I befriended the producer and I wanted my time. And

1019
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: I would have said this if I was Melissa, the

1020
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: alleged bad bitch that she is. You know, we call

1021
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: her m low because she thinks she's Jennifer and it's

1022
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: all good in the hood. But ladies, I would have

1023
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: said this, I'm such a bad bitch that I got

1024
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: on the show and I've been on for more than

1025
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: ten seasons.

1026
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Fuck you, like I would.

1027
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: I would have been so like whatever, It's not how

1028
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: I got on. It's the fact that I stayed on.

1029
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: That would have been my tagline. You know, It's not

1030
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: how I got on, it's the fact that I stayed on.

1031
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Like Melissa, that should have been her tagline. But the

1032
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: fact that you tried to play this victim and the

1033
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: woe is me, no one's buying it. And the fact

1034
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: that Melissa knew I am so irrelevant on this show

1035
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: without getting into a fight with Teresa and then to

1036
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: do the ga five year old model posts standoff.

1037
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 5: Oh like I was dying.

1038
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: I really couldnot do.

1039
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 5: I couldnot do like she wanted to be, like, do

1040
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: you see me like?

1041
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: You see me like?

1042
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 4: But Melissa is the most phased.

1043
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Oh she is, because listen, how you get on is

1044
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: how you get off. And I think she realized. I

1045
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: think Melissa realized I played my cards wrong. I played

1046
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: my cards wrong. She would have This is the sad part

1047
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm in with this. Melissa. If you're listening, listen up.

1048
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: If you if you would have remained in Teresa's corner

1049
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: as the doting sister in law, I promise.

1050
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 2: You you would still be on the show.

1051
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Like the show would have been Melissa and Teresa and

1052
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: other women, I promise you, because they would have appreciated

1053
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: the fact that, yes, at the end of at the

1054
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: end of the day, the DNA of this show remains

1055
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: about family. That's what separates Jersey from New York, OHC,

1056
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Atlanta, Potomac, Beverly Hills is the fact

1057
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: that Jersey was about family. And I promise you I

1058
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: am ninety nine point nine percent factual. In this Teresa

1059
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: and Melissa would have remained on the show if Melissa

1060
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: would have played her hand right because they are the

1061
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: DNA of the motherfucking show. And the fact that she

1062
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: was too busy of Margaret's ass smelling pepto bismo that

1063
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: she did not realize it was going to be the

1064
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: end of her paycheck.

1065
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: But absolutely, Carlos, we say this.

1066
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: You know, we blame a lot on Melissa, but it

1067
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: really is Joe. Melissa is the way she is because

1068
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: of Joe. So you know, Joe allowed this to go

1069
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: on like they did, so I really do believe he

1070
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: is the biggest problem in all of it.

1071
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that. I agree with that, so listen,

1072
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. I'm so happy to have

1073
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: you too on my podcast. This will be the first

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