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Speaker 1: I don't want you going to the bushes to find them.

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Speaker 1: The point.

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Speaker 6: Racists, the money stuff I can't tell me.

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Speaker 7: From the Aid to Toronto, we let the metal go off,

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Speaker 1: Metal detector go off. There it is.

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Speaker 8: There is, Ladies and gentlemen, gentiles and little mamas alike.

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Speaker 8: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of Ma Mama Told.

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Speaker 2: Me Podcast, where we dive deep into the pockets of

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Speaker 2: black conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Theory and we finally work to prove whatever the fuck

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Speaker 1: you want us to prove.

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Speaker 8: You call in, you tell us what you want us

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Speaker 8: to believe, and we'll do our best.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean we try really hard to make all

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Speaker 1: No, we don't. We we give time. I think that

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Speaker 8: That is our love language is uh. We give our time.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, Yeah, maybe it's not thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna forget some birthday. Maybe we didn't pick

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Speaker 2: up everything you wanted us to a safeway. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I forgot you were out of pistachios. Was all together?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't going to write it down? Baby, right? I got

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but we're here. We dedicate our time to you.

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Speaker 8: You know what I've been thinking about, and this is

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Speaker 8: that that Trump made the well wait, you know that

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Speaker 1: You think he's secretly older than he is?

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Speaker 8: Nah, I think those kids were right to bully him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's open it up. Let's open it up.

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Speaker 1: Here's one good second and think about what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: How old is he? He starts? I think that Rachel,

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Speaker 2: I think that dressing up like a cop yep at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: And this is I'm dancing carefully. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Come on, you guys, can't leave me alone. You please

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Speaker 1: can't leave. I don't know. I like crime. No, I agree.

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Speaker 8: He's got a lot going on already. Yeah, he has

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Speaker 8: It is a lot of fucking work to not address

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Speaker 1: Fuck is happening with you? And then you put a

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Speaker 2: Outfit on top of it. But it was another thirteen

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Speaker 8: You apparently have a whole family that cares about you,

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Speaker 8: They're roasting him because he came to a fucking parking

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Speaker 5: You created.

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Speaker 8: I think he's doing vigilante justice in whatever bullshit neighborhood

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think he can stand up for me

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this isn't a boy with resources. That's why they

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Speaker 8: I've seen a few little man conspiracies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen on YouTube they said that his dad

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Speaker 1: That guy is a liar.

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Speaker 1: What kid that age dresses like a cop who doesn't suck?

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Speaker 1: And so if you got a bully, I'm a little

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Speaker 1: They just yeah, they didn't do a crime. They just

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Speaker 5: Look like ship.

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Speaker 8: It's not like he was like swagged. It wasn't even

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Speaker 5: Well, you're saying he's slow.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's slow. I think he's sick. You

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The man's a secret service.

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Speaker 1: How fast cash for Tell is whoa.

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Speaker 8: Our guests today. We haven't introed her yet. We've burned

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Speaker 8: most bridges with a lot of communities. But I'm excited

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Speaker 8: They could, though we're cutting off we're cutting off our

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Speaker 1: I want that.

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Speaker 2: You want that money, I want that money that's you.

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Speaker 1: Then they have access to you. You got to like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna know your kids that these guys like you, they're.

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Speaker 8: Gonna need to see me drinking the milk.

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Speaker 8: I can't just say I drink it.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be and they're gonna know. They're gonna smell

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Speaker 1: That's really Yeah, you don't smell like a sick cow.

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Speaker 8: Didn't drink our milk. Man, didn't drink our.

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Speaker 1: I guess today. She's so funny.

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Speaker 8: You know her, You know her from from writing on

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Speaker 8: amazing shows, Harley Quinn, Blockbuster killing It uh keenan we

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Speaker 1: People still want to work.

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Speaker 4: Well, masterpiece, beautiful, beautiful time television.

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Speaker 8: I would say I've said that Yeah, she's so funny

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Speaker 1: Give it up for Rachel Pegram everybody.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now, remember that's louder for them, and believe it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's quiet in here, but I'm trusting y'all.

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Speaker 1: It's loud elsewhere and here it's embarrassing. M H. I

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Speaker 8: Rachel, you came to us today with the conspiracy theory that.

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Speaker 1: That I'm excited about.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how you felt about this one. I

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Speaker 4: The it was the Highway Act of nineteen fifty six.

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Speaker 4: It was brought forward and it was like, oh, we're

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Speaker 8: I guess the question. Maybe that's a better way of

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Speaker 1: Just like straight up race or.

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Speaker 7: Highways the looming through the house.

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Speaker 8: The No, this was one percent them being like we are.

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Speaker 1: Not if we always section it often yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were communities that were integrated that they didn't like,

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Speaker 1: Yep, damn kind of solved it early. Huh No, I

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Speaker 8: There's a lot here. It's not just it doesn't just

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Speaker 2: My question is what's the timeline, because it's like when

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Speaker 8: This was in response to things that were happening in

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Speaker 1: And my other question is outside of because it's obviously

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Speaker 4: there's actually a park, there's an empty lane, there's no

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Speaker 1: Look, that's where a team smokes cigarettes. Ride through that, but.

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Speaker 4: They can't go outside smoke a cigarette with their girlfriends.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's surely it could not have been more intentional.

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Speaker 8: It could not have been more malicious, which is why

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden in twenty twenty whatever the fuck is being like, yo,

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Speaker 8: we gotta fix this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where's that stand now?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 5: Well, Joe Biden, he's still working on this Joe Biden.

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Speaker 8: I think it's running in a few years. Yeah, And

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Speaker 8: I think he felt like it got taken away from

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Speaker 8: more shot. But but currently no, I don't know that

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Speaker 5: They're actually building more highway, taking through more neighborhoods now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they're naming the highway.

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Speaker 2: We're racist too, all among people up North Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets a highway. Fuck. Maybe we should take a break.

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Speaker 8: We'll take a break, and when we come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: That would love to present to both of you. That

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Speaker 1: be back when more. Rachel pegram More. My mama told me.

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Speaker 9: Do you have your passport? Did you get your shots?

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Speaker 7: Would you like to come back with drop to a panic.

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Speaker 10: I hate it that he says, do you have your shots?

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Speaker 10: It's like the way that the way that feels to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so a crowd of eating open, Yeah, it's pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's it's not it's not sure all the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Rachel. One of the things that this conversation made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is founded on that. It's always been that

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Speaker 1: you what are you gonna integrate this? What are you

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Speaker 8: That's sort of the challenge that I found myself up against.

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Speaker 1: That's I think that's stupid.

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Speaker 2: I have heard dreadheads talk about that shit though, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I almost disagree that that didn't happen. I think it

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Speaker 1: Just like was like I'm white.

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Speaker 5: I was just like, oh, but he's not just a

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Speaker 4: He was a Polish guy. But then you can just

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Speaker 8: I'm the product of the integration frankly, but yet thanks man,

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Speaker 8: But no, it's it means a lot, but but it's

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Speaker 8: That's it's it's it feels like a false start.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah that rocks. Where will we be now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, no there's did he like

447
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 8: there's golden Englewood?

448
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, No, we should have just dug for

449
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: the gold ourselves. Did he come around the corner? Or

450
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: it was just ultimately the point because I know.

451
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 8: I mean, the professor very much agreed with him, and

452
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 8: so it became, in my opinion, to people being wrong,

453
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 8: being like you're right to each other. And I don't

454
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 8: mean to you know. I'm sure she had a more

455
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 8: complicated answer than I took it to mean, but basically

456
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 8: her her argument was that we accepted integration as if

457
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 8: it was our only option when in fact there were

458
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 8: alternatives to segregation or integration. Now where I take issue

459
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 8: is she never really explains what those are alternatives.

460
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 4: Are, right, Yeah, I don't think when people now like

461
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: to have a strong opinion about what the past and

462
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: what they would have done, it's like, well, they could

463
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 4: have done something, and I'm like, but you weren't there.

464
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: You don't know the options that people were faced and

465
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: like what they were like choosing, and like what you

466
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: had to deal with on a day to day basis,

467
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: and integration looked like it would help you and your

468
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: family right there, right then, that's a very different option

469
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: than you.

470
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 5: All the way on the other side of the life.

471
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: Actually it could have been a little bit different and.

472
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: A lot stronger than the roof it. Just I don't

473
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: like that at all.

474
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 8: And I bet she is a very she's an African

475
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 8: American studies professor at Princeton. I imagine she's very learned

476
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 8: on the subject of like of the happenings of that era.

477
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 8: But I don't think that any amount of like reading

478
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 8: can actually make you experience or fully empathize with what

479
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 8: it feels like in that moment where you are being

480
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 8: presented with Like if I found out my kid was

481
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 8: like at a school with poison water, and then the

482
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 8: other school didn't have poison water. I want them at

483
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 8: the school without the poison water. I don't give a

484
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 8: fuck if that means that like I have to then

485
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 8: introduce this more complicated problem in my life, and maybe

486
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 8: it is more complicated.

487
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

488
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 8: I just don't want my baby poison. Yeah, yeah, that's

489
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 8: all they were feeling.

490
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: No.

491
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 5: I think, like, as I was saying earlier, my dad

492
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 5: eighty three years.

493
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: Old, sochie was around for integration and like told me

494
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: about like the different schools that he went to, and

495
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: like when he went to a school that was all

496
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: black and then when he went to a school that

497
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 4: was integrated until he was with a lot of white kids,

498
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: and just like even the education difference and like the

499
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: kinds of teachers that he got. He did say, I

500
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: mean there is it's not a one to one, but

501
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: it's like when he was at an all black schools,

502
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 4: like he got to have black teachers, he got to

503
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 4: be like taught by other people that look like him,

504
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: and like they were telling him, however, there's like maybe

505
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: certain subjects that weren't covered because if they didn't have

506
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 4: a teacher that was you know, knowledgeable there, you wouldn't

507
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: have it versus when he got to.

508
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: A white school.

509
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: Okay, you maybe have like a math teacher who like

510
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: knows a little more.

511
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: It was one of the subjects that was one.

512
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 8: Let's not call that.

513
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: There.

514
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: Let me just say I think math was there.

515
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: His words are so beautiful.

516
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: Maure or something. You know, I just know that.

517
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 8: It was like okay, yeah, yeah, added to build my daddy.

518
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Dude, is he says, I have to check me so beautifully? Yeah?

519
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Uh no.

520
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: But you know, just it's just like different opportunities in

521
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: a different and like you know, even just like the

522
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: facilities and the kinds of like, yeah, funding that you get,

523
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: but it's not that that the black schools, if those

524
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: had been more funded, that they wouldn't have maybe wanted

525
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: to be there, but like that funding wasn't gonna happen.

526
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: Right without the integration. That's why it's not a fair.

527
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: That's why it's such a crazy And it feels like

528
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: that argument feels like it's like trusting white.

529
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 11: People a lot, and yeah, in a way where like

530
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 11: this they would they would have helped you take care

531
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 11: of it, like that's why would you watch Yeah, that's so,

532
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 11: that's so crazy.

533
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: They burned Tulsa to the ground.

534
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 8: I'm saying they were, like, this ship makes us so mad.

535
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: We don't even want a city no more. We can't

536
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: have this.

537
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 8: We don't even we don't want this to exist. There's

538
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 8: no fucking way that we're just gonna let niggas ride

539
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 8: off of like some alternative to to whatever.

540
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: They don't even give them any kind of a leg up.

541
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Has that been the history of any of this to

542
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: get help, let let alone an even playing field.

543
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: So I think that like.

544
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 8: Argument this like it also presumes that things like the

545
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 8: highways being built the way that they are are just

546
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 8: a one off of things that they've done to us historically.

547
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 8: That I'm sure there are tens and tens and tens

548
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 8: of things that we take for granted that are just

549
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 8: slightly different than we realize. Like, for example, where I'm from,

550
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 8: I'm from a suburb called oak Park, and on the

551
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 8: oak Park side, or rather, our neighborhood is adjacent.

552
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: To a place called Austin in Chicago.

553
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 8: Austin notoriously is one of the rougher neighborhoods in Chicago,

554
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 8: but we are right next to it. A big street

555
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 8: separates us, called Austin. On the Oak Park side of

556
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 8: our street, the lights are white. On the Chicago side

557
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 8: of the street, the lights are yellow.

558
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Man, I hate walking down a yellow ass street at

559
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: night alone.

560
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 8: Like, same street, but this one's white. This one's yellow, y'all.

561
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 8: Don't think that's a little light yo. Just so y'all

562
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 8: know signature that you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

563
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 8: we don't give a funk about what's over there. That's

564
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 8: why we made the street lights yellow so they'll drive

565
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 8: these niggas crazy.

566
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a color of crime. It feels like close.

567
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: Your eyes and imagine a crime being committed on the street.

568
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what it looks like.

569
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: I never thought I was gonna get it.

570
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: It's a little yeah, and you're next to a basketball court.

571
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 6: Now.

572
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 8: It's it's those kinds of small things that I think

573
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 8: moved so far past just highways that I think this

574
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 8: kind of argument of like, well, we shouldn't have never

575
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 8: integrated in the first place from a South African makes

576
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 8: it feels nasty. It feels so silly because we're we're

577
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 8: so buried in Yeah, white supremacy frankly.

578
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like been like years and decades and decades

579
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: and decades of oppression, of being displaced, of being moved,

580
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: of being told you can't be here, of like establishing

581
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: yourself and then having to like have your community decimated,

582
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: and then you're presented with an opportunity where perhaps you

583
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: might get a little bit more for your community. True,

584
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: Like that's gonna look a lot different than like, oh well,

585
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: actually it's gonna come with these caveats. It's like, well,

586
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: I don't know that you're gonna see all of those

587
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: caveats when you're like coming from a place of like in.

588
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: A system that's baked in to keep you down, any

589
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: leg up you take.

590
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 8: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it. It felt nasty

591
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 8: in a way that I didn't I didn't want to

592
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 8: be angry at it, because I do, in my heart

593
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 8: of hearts, believe that we we as a as people,

594
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 8: would have been better off if we were able to

595
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 8: kind of like build our own and sort of privatize

596
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 8: blackness for longer, incubate this shit for a little bit

597
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 8: in an effective way. But on the flip side, it

598
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 8: feels so shortsighted to what the actual like lived experience

599
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 8: was for all of the people that survived that shit.

600
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just time and time again, like

601
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: if there's Tulsa. But then also where I'm from in Texas,

602
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm from a little town called Detton, and yeah, yeah,

603
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: and so in Detton, my family was from a part

604
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 4: of town where there's like a predominantly black community that like,

605
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 4: once they got emancipated, they like moved in and it

606
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: was like right by unfortunately the Texas Women's University, and

607
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: so this community was there and it was thriving. They

608
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: had a full downtown and sometimes the women from the

609
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: university would come and they would buy things from the shops.

610
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 4: And then everyone at the university got anxious paranoid about it.

611
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: The clan came to the town and said, we're burning

612
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: down the school, and you guys need like to warn them,

613
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: like you know, And they so they burned down the school.

614
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: They burned on half of the town, and then Texas

615
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: women University said, you have to move the town. You

616
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: need to move where all the black people are.

617
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: So we got to move the town.

618
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: I'm so cut to shop, yes, but they already burned

619
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: They didn't burn the university they burned the school in

620
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: the town. Yes, and so the Klan burned the school

621
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: for the black kids in the town, and then they

622
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 4: had to move the town overnight on logs, and they

623
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: moved it to another part of town, which is literally

624
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: where I'm from, which is southeast Dton, And so they

625
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 4: moved the whole town over there.

626
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 5: And then now is a park where.

627
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: They've sort of recreated some little monuments to say like, well,

628
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: this is what was here. But I guess that's what

629
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: I mean to say it with it is like this

630
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: happens all over the country where there's black people who've

631
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: established themselves. They got a lot of money, they were

632
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: doing well, they had commerce, they had capitalism, et cetera.

633
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: Oh it's bothering white people, or oh I don't like

634
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 4: the way you're thriving.

635
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: You need to leave. So like, what is the what

636
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: is the alternative?

637
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: You keep coming out and then they're taking you down.

638
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: It's like you have to I mean, I guess the

639
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: point is that you have to integrate into their society,

640
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: right ray, but you can't. They would rather you not

641
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: do for self as much as they would rather you

642
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: do whatever you have to do this similar or leave completely,

643
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: which put it on logs, which I'm sorry for what

644
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: happened in your town, hilarious visual.

645
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 4: Put the houses on logs and they're dragging them through

646
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: the town on horses.

647
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: I live in a house my she ain't even set

648
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: up to put on like if you told me I

649
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: gotta go on logs tonight tonight.

650
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 8: The idea that there was one dude who heard the

651
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 8: news and had to put his house on logs by himself.

652
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: I think that there was a nigga that was ready.

653
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Everybody said Ray was crazy logs.

654
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Everybody said, now we gotta go southeast.

655
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 9: Who's ready?

656
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Who's the engine in this little You don't have to

657
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: get ready.

658
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 7: That's mister Ray Wheels.

659
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: Taking three lots.

660
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

661
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 8: I this this is devastating to think about, that that

662
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 8: this is where our history starts. It reminds me a

663
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 8: little bit of Manhattan Beach. I think very recently, probably

664
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 8: in the past couple of years, there was a black

665
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 8: family that apparently was the sort of like original like

666
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 8: proprietors of this major section of Manhattan Beach, and they

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Speaker 8: are just now getting some version of like yeah, like

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Speaker 8: an attempt at getting money recoped for what essentially was

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Speaker 8: like burned and stolen from them type shit. It's all nasty. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: this it's it's vast, it's rich. It really the highway thing,

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Speaker 8: for me at least, reminds me of how little I

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Speaker 8: know about what was actually done to black people, and

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Speaker 8: in a beautiful way where you're like, sometimes you can

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Speaker 8: become a little like all right, motherfucker, I'll get it

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Speaker 8: with some of like the hardship of it all, and

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Speaker 8: it's a nice reminder that like, no, you don't get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: there's still so much more shit that you missed.

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Speaker 5: No, I completely.

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Speaker 4: That's like I feel like in looking at some of

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Speaker 4: the like looking at where the highways hit and where

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Speaker 4: they like cross, it was like, oh, it's the same

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Speaker 4: kind of thing, but like it's just these neighborhoods, these

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Speaker 4: places where people were thriving, were doing so well, Like

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Speaker 4: I I can't imagine having to like you built a

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Speaker 4: whole life and like you're you're doing like you in

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Speaker 4: the community, you got kids, you know, everything's going well

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Speaker 4: for you, and then they're like, no, just kidding, it's

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Speaker 4: all gone. How devastating that would have been and how

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Speaker 4: like painful like to rebuild after that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're go, right, and everyone scattered and yeah, comes

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Speaker 2: like and now they just got a highway through Vallejo.

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Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, I don't know why Vallejo is the city

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Speaker 1: I picked. Yeah, you picked to go.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where that is.

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Speaker 1: It's northern California. That's where forty is from. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that. Oh yeah, also Mac Dre.

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Speaker 8: I think I just treated Bay rappers like they're all

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Speaker 8: from Oakland.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I wasn't gonna say San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just assumed job there are in San Francis.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to coog Nut, Bill Manner players Rapping Forte

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, hell yeah, anyway, Yeah, I love Google Nut.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 1: I think you would like it me. He's very funny.

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Speaker 8: Okay, happy, I'm down the track, google Nut.

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Speaker 1: I think we're done. Okay, I think we did it.

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Speaker 8: This is I think a gorgeous episode of one of

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Speaker 8: our better pieces.

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Speaker 1: Rachel, could you tell the people where they could find you?

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Speaker 1: What cool shit you have going on? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You can follow me on Instagram that I am Rachel

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Speaker 5: Pegram And my album came out and so you can

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Speaker 5: buy that.

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Speaker 1: Go buy the album. Go listen to it. I have

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Speaker 1: some on all the all the you know that one.

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Speaker 5: It's even on title.

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Speaker 1: The blackest music streaming option is it? I got titled.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't playlist on title. I don't know

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Speaker 1: any white people who exclusively have title.

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Speaker 5: I have one wife friend who is exclusively on title.

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Speaker 5: She got in there and she said, I'm committed. Everything's

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Speaker 5: over there.

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Speaker 1: For a week and a half.

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Speaker 5: This is where I am home.

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Speaker 2: You know what I like about title? When you go

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Speaker 2: to an artist, the like top songs will be different

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Speaker 2: than they are for other streamings streamers because it's like

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Speaker 2: more black people.

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Speaker 1: So like the DMX top ten is different than if

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Speaker 1: you go to a party up the way that yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you go to yeah yeah, yeah, okay, wait I

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Speaker 1: like you that is? Yeah it is.

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Speaker 8: I think it's very generic. Yeah, you remember have to

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Speaker 8: you have to hunt. If you're trying to discover an artist,

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Speaker 8: you have to hunt to get to a B side

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Speaker 8: of their ship.

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Speaker 4: Really, it's not actively available. They're not like presenting that.

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Speaker 8: No, they present like, Yo, here's all the ship. You

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Speaker 8: will absolutely have heard of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, then come on over the title, y'all the water

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Speaker 1: is warm. I could probably get y'all a playlist. I

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Speaker 1: got a playlist over there. It's called hard Isn't bullshit,

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Speaker 1: David bor That's what it is. It's official.

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Speaker 5: You can talk about this one playlist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, not that I made. That. I

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Speaker 1: made in conjunction with title. The title. This is my playlist.

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Speaker 5: To present that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, that was really I.

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Speaker 2: Was really getting my feelings and I was like, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, they're really like, yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was like my workout man.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's about what you were trying to get us

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Speaker 1: in on new music. Oh no, I'm good man, really

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Speaker 1: want that. Yeah. I didn't give a fun about Yeah no,

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Speaker 1: that's that. That sucked, But that's cool. That title was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give a fuck about it. Yeah yeah, cool.

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Speaker 1: Well go listen to David's title.

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Speaker 2: Make listen to Hardy's and Bullshit on Times and where

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Speaker 2: what else can they do for you?

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Speaker 1: Cool guy?

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Speaker 2: Joke City seven on Instagram, Go to Patreon dot com,

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Speaker 2: back slash David Bory, purchase my special Birth of a

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Speaker 2: Nation with the g It's so funny, and then go

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Speaker 2: to all the streaming services mostly mostly title and you

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Speaker 2: can listen to the album and it's different jokes, so

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Speaker 2: you could listen to the album and then you could

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Speaker 2: watch this by the special till you to buy this special.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And as always, you can follow me at Langston

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Speaker 8: Kerman on all social media platforms. You can see me live.

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Speaker 8: I will be March twenty seventh and twenty through the

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Speaker 8: twenty ninth, I'll be in the Vermont Comedy Club, and

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Speaker 8: then April tenth, I'm gonna be in Salt Lake City

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Speaker 8: at Wives Guys, and then April seventeenth, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 8: at the Wise Guys in Las Vegas. And you can

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Speaker 8: send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. You

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Speaker 8: could tell us which music streaming service Asian people prefer.

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