1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome too. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Round. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: This is a pro wrestling podcast with a hinge of 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: pop culture joined Battle in Eli as they'd break down 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: the world of professional wrestling and you never know who's 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna stop up. Now making their way to. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: The microphone, give it up for the greatest podcast tag 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: team in the world, Battle and Ela. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: When you were a kid, when you came time for Christmas. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 5: I think me and Eli have kind of talked about 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 5: this before that we've always wanted a certain type of 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 5: pads for Christmas that a tag team by the Legion 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 5: of Doom would wear. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Right. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: I had a buddy in third grade that had the 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: red and black styrofoam pads that he got from the 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: WWF catalog, and I was so jealous of that kid. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 5: That was the one thing that I always wanted for Christmas, 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 5: never got it, and then I found out that Santa's 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 5: not real and I should just buy for myself. So 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 5: it just so happens that today we have one of 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 5: the guys Legion of Doom. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: Is it like weird if I go, oh, what a rush? 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: Or are you gonna make fun of me for saying that? 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we Okay, Man Road. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: Warrior Animals on the phone with us. He is in 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: town this weekend, going down tomorrow at Station Camp High 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 5: School in Gallatin, the second annual event would Tried and True. 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 5: It is a benefit show for Ray of Hope Foundation, 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 5: which is an organization that helps provide financial assistance to 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: these families whose child is currently in treatment for pediatric 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 5: brain tumor or brain cancer. Let's kind of just jump 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 5: right into this Road Warrior Animals on the phone. You 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 5: came from a powerlifting background. How did you get into 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: wrestling and had you always been a fan and where 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 5: did you get your training from? 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: You know? Man? At our gym, we had just some 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: of the guys that you guys already know rather from 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: the Rick Rude Hawks, myself smashing Demolition Ordin Berserker, Mister 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: p A heading the Ki to poll Off. We all 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: walked out at the same gym and uh we all 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: we all back and were football players. You know. I 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: was actually training for training for a walk on tryout 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 2: with the with the new jersey generalism of the old 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: USFL Donald trumpsall team and one thing to another. And 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: our bartender checked us out was a guy named Ed Sharkey. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: Ed Sharkey. His claimed the fame was training just in 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: the body Ventura. Yeah, so, Ed says, and he was 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: the bartender at the bar. We all bounced that. He says, Hey, 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it in the wrestling camp. The 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: guys interested in doing it, he said, Man, I don't know, 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: like in the gym, we used to fool around rut 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: of our buddy's the adventure. We go and drop an 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: out ball in the white bench pressure which is not 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: the same thing to do right, you know, or squatting 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: and we come hit him, you know, behind or something. 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: He's squatting. But you know, so I said to myself, 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: as said, well, you know what, the public will be 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: good for me for football, for my tryout. Why don't 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: I just give it a shot and see what happens. 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: So Hawk and I and a guy named Scott Norton 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: Espie at the end of yeah yeah, World armisting Champion. Yeah. 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: So he and I and Hawk and Rude and you know, 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: we went to camp and Barry Darshal went camp, and 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: just so happens that football came up, or wrestling came 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: up first, and I had the opportunity when all the 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: Anderson who Georgia came to wrestling, came in the bar. 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: I actually threw a guy out of the bar, landed 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: on his feet. To be honest with you, yeah, I said, 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: excuse me. He knew right away when you met us. 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: He goes, these guys are right man, this is perfect, 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: you know, and it was the right place, right time, 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: and haw can I you know, we had to give 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: the gap. I call it. Man. We could talk, we 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: can sell a product, we can go in the ring, 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: you know. So it was like the perfect storm. You know. 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: Well, I just found this out this week when we 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: were getting these questions together. So you debuted as the 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: road Warrior by yourself, and then yeah, later on you 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: kind of use this when you and Hawk officially became 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: a team. So when did you meet Paul Ellering? And 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: is that kind of hot? Was? Was he the glue 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: that kind of got that together? 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, Paul was the glue that kept the machine together. 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: We met him down in uh you know, George Shampter 86 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: wrestling down there in the NWA, and you know, only 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: didn't want us talking right off the bat. He says, 88 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna give this guy it's gonna be your mouth piece. 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Let him talk you guys don't say nothing. And then 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of a time they started letting us 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: talk and started letting us give some selling points and 92 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: this and that, and then he decided, well, god, these 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: guys can talk, man, they're pretty good of the mic. 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: So he let us start doing it with Paul. You know, 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: we you know, I was the hard cell guy and 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: Hawk was the off the wall guy, and then Paul 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: wrapped it up in a nice little bow, you know, 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: for the last little bit. 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 5: Just hearing these stories is like just mind blowing for 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 5: a kid that grew up watching you guys wrestling, and 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 5: then you're talking about it. Which, by the way, Animal 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: is going to be hanging out tomorrow. It is going 103 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 5: down Summer showdown Station Camp High School. You can still 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 5: get your tickets right now. Tried and truepro dot Com 105 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 5: also going to be there. Will be the war Kings, 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 5: NWA Tag Team Champion, Brom Camille, Kick Cash, and so 107 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: many more and Road Warry Animals on the phone with 108 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 5: us right now, and I want to kind of talk 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: to you about this kind of talking about NWA. You know, 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 5: one of the most popular runs for the team was, 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 5: you know, eighty six to ninety with Jim Crockett, you 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: guys had an infamous match with the Midnight Express, the 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 5: Skywalker match at Star K eighty six, which people still 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: talk to about this day. Can you walk us through 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: how that match came to be and your memories of 116 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 5: that event. 117 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: Well, that was one of Dustie Rose's brilliant ideas. And 118 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: do you know how to get two guys three pounds 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: on a three wide fireman's scaffold thirty feet out of 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: the ring wasn't exactly the way I wanted to get 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: into wrestling, you know. But but what made it great 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: was the way that Jim Cornett and the Minute Express 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: sold the whole angle. And you know, I'll never forget it. 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Standing up there, you know, the Omnian Atlanta, the very 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: first one, and you know it looked like McGill and Guerrilla, 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: like a big giant ape in the tree, you know, 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: standing up there calling the Minute Express up, and you know, 128 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: of course Bobby and Dennis and you know Cornett was 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: all they were all fraid of heights and uh, you 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: know at the end of the match, you guys saw 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: we chased Cornett up the scaffold and uh, you know, 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: let him hang. Were big Bubba Rodgers boss Man was 133 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: trying to catch him and he didn't and broh, I 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: never laughed the heart of my life. I told Jimmy, 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: I said, Jimmy, you're ready. I yelled down the boss 136 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Man and said, hey, bro you're ready to catch them. 137 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: He says yeah, and he landed three feet away from him. 138 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Show Jimmy bounced about ten seat in the air screamed, mighties, mighties. 139 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: But it was definitely we looked at I'll say one thing, man, 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't the staplest match. It's probably the most dangerous 141 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: match I've ever been at, to be honest with you. 142 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dusty definitely had a pretty wild imagination between that 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: and like. 144 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the greatest minds in wrestling. Man, he 145 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: came up with some phenomenal ideas, you know, and uh, 146 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: and he always took care of Hawking Eye and you know, 147 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: and you know, we were kind of like the enforcers. 148 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: We were like the bullies, little bullies, and it worked 149 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: out perfect. Yeah. 150 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was, uh, you know specifically that match. 151 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: You know, I'm from West Tennessee, so I grew up 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: Memphis wrestling, you know, Jerry Lawler and all that. So 153 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: just to see to see Star Cast eighty six and 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: see a match like that, it was like seeing a spaceship. 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: I mean it was like, what is this, you know, 156 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: I mean, and yeah, it was wild and I guess 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: so did did jim Cornett? Did he really hurt his. 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Leg or was that just a word blew out both these? 159 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: Yes, he really did get hurt. 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got hurt big time. Well, you know, 161 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: the funny thing was, you know, boss Man and Hawk 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: like to go out and let's just say, get their 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: mind right outside, you know, do an extracurricular thing. And 164 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: so they were probably high as the tight and the 165 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: way they came in, and you know, you know, Bubble 166 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: had on those glasses and the hat and these high 167 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: and then the depth perception. There's no way who's going 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: to catch Cornett. I mean, seriously, man, Cornett was like, 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, ten pounds of shit in five thound bank 170 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: those scuse the language, but you know, I mean, you know, 171 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: I mean, but I love Jimmy to death. Jimmy is 172 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: one of the greatest managers and voices in pro resting period. 173 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: But I knew right away that he was not going 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: to catch it. I could just see it down there. 175 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Then man, he sure you're ready, and yeah, I'm ready. 176 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it was dangerous, you know. And the 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: thing is we had about fifty of them with those 178 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: guys around the country. 179 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh jeez. 180 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah man. And and hats off to Bobby and 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Dennis who fell off every time because I told Dustius said, 182 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: I am not falling off thirty feet above the ring. 183 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's freaking wild. Yeah. 184 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, but we always got putting those Maxes, man. 185 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: We always got put in the war games. We always 186 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: got putting the Temple in the Tower Doom, we got 187 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: putting us Capitol matview, as you know. And a lot 188 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: of people are realizing that about four days before that event, 189 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: Hawk had broken the lower part of his leg in Tokyo. 190 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was resting that on a broke leg. 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I cut the cast off and I picked 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: it up in the locker room, and uh, he went 193 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: up there, you know, because the show must go on. 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: You know. That was our attitude, and you know, you know, 195 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: you know a lot of great paying fans that needed 196 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: to see it, and you know, we wanted to be 197 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: there for the fans. You know, that's the same thing 198 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: that you tell you you're from you know, West Tannessee there. 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: You know, we had some great battles with Jerry Lawler 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: and Austin Idol and Memphis. You know, we're going down 201 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: there working for Jerry Jarrett. Man. I remember we go 202 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: down there three four months in a row and sell 203 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: out the Men's MEN'SSS Arena there. Yeah, it was yeahs 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: and it was just always live and loud and pass. 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: You know. That's a good thing, man. That's why I 206 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: want to do these spirits for now. I bring my 207 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: spike shoulder pads with me with the fans, put them 208 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: on for a photo, getting a photo with me and 209 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: take the picture. You know. It's all about giving back 210 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: to the fan, man, That's why. So if you're not 211 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: doing anything tomorrow, you know, the fans need to come 212 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: out because it's going to be a great fan experience. 213 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've we've gone to several of the tried and 214 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: true events here recently, and I mean they just put 215 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: on a top not show. 216 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 2: Oh they put on a great show. Man. Probably one 217 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: of the top indie companies in the country for sure. 218 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: We agree. So after after that initial run, you know, 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: I you know, it's hard to say, but arguably that 220 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: n w a Ryan is really what put you guys 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: in the national spot light. So of course, then the 222 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: next progression was the WWF. You went there from ninety 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: to ninety two to work for EVNS. What was it 224 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: like working for the WWF during that period, which is 225 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: kind of unofficially, you know, the start of the cartoon era, 226 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: I guess is what they call it. 227 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, man, here here's the thing. As much 228 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: as they tried to make it a kind of a 229 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: cartoon error, it never really worked with Hawk and Eye anyway, Right, 230 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: we went from NWA Champs went to the AWA when 231 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: burn guy he went to another prestigious territory. You know. 232 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: We went to work for All Japan and New Japan, 233 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: where we were the only team to take the international 234 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,119 Speaker 2: titles out of Tokyo and defend them in the US, 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: actually defended them against the Express to be honest with you. 236 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, so, I mean, we did a lot of 237 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: stuff over Japan and Puerto Rico, and you know, went 238 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: to kuwaitacy times in South Korea and all sorts of things. 239 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: And then it was time just to go to the 240 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 2: WWS because the last belt of the Big three that 241 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: we didn't win was the WWF tag Q Championships, right, 242 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: So Hawking I went there and then you know, it 243 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: was I think it was SummerSlam and ninety two we 244 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: beatn Asky Boys the Madison Square Garden and it was 245 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: fricking crazy, you know, as much as they tried to 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: make a cartoonish, you know, the only thing different with 247 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: Hawk and I was they didn't want to slide to 248 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: the ring and beat people up. We had to go 249 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: up in each quarner and say yah boo, you know yeah, 250 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: which we didn't like very much. Hawk would go up there, 251 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: you know, pop the collar and just take his tongue out. 252 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: Night pretty much just walked around the ring. 253 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: We're just gonna be like, we're just gonna kind of 254 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: take it easy tonight. And we're not gonna do that. 255 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: Man. 256 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: Right now, our guests on the phone with us Road 257 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: Warrior Animal Tried and True is going down tomorrow night 258 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 5: in Gallatin Station Camp High School. Tickets are still available 259 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: at Tried and truepro dot com. It is a benefit 260 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: show for Ray of Hope Foundation. Let me ask you 261 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: this real quick question. So you had like a legitimate 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: back injury that kind of kept you out of the 263 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: ring for what was in almost four years. What exact 264 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 5: actually happened, if you want to talk about it, and 265 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: how excruciating was it for you not being able to 266 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: perform in the ring. 267 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: Well, man, it was a combination the guys. I mean, 268 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: it was a combination of Hawks, you know, failing like 269 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: four or five tests of ww you know, and and uh, 270 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: he decided to quit after the Big sum the Big 271 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: Summer Slam over and when we stadium, when we rode 272 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: the motorcycles down in front of ninety thousand people, you know, 273 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: we all. 274 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: Came back, which I still get goosebumps every time I 275 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: see that. 276 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: By the way, just how awesome. 277 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: That it was so freaking aloud that it was the 278 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: most awesome entrance I think I've ever been a part of. 279 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: You know. And when Hawk didn't come back, I continued 280 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: on dates and I rested the every Brothers in Tokyo 281 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: and they landed me wrong on the double suplank that 282 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: was doing that two on one match. So I wanted 283 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: to honor the dates for the WWE. And I heard 284 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: heated a couple of discs at being a smart businessman. 285 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: You know, I had a look, there's a lot of 286 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: the policy and you know, like slected all my lords 287 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: a lot for a couple of years, you know, and 288 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, I probably could have came back sooner. You know, 289 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: I rehabbed very smartly and you know, and and everything else. 290 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: But you know, and the Japanese officers called me like 291 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: crazy to come back. But I had to make sure 292 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: everything was right, man, you know, because you much have 293 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: your partner walk out on you. You got to make 294 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: sure it's all right before you go jump back into it, 295 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: you know, right, yeah, I mean I knew there was money. 296 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, hawking over to Span and he 297 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: was taking it with Kanski for a while. They were 298 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: doing the Power Warriors thing and or the hell Raisers thing, 299 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: and you know, I would get in calls the whole time, 300 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: Hey animal, when are you coming back? When you coming back? 301 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: When you're coming back? You know. So the Japanese were 302 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: really ready for it. And I walked down at Tokyo 303 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Dome one time in front of sixty five thousand people, 304 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: and you know, it's kind of kind of thrill, man, 305 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: when you got sixty five thousand thousand people going, you know. 306 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: You know, the way they say animal in Japan is 307 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: had him, you know, And then you got all of them, 308 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: you know, because they saw that I was a shape. 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: I saw that I was still big, they saw that 310 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: I can still move around, so they would want me 311 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: to come back. I'd be honest with you. They just 312 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: kind of mading a wait for it a little. 313 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: Bit, right, And I mean you probably stood out like 314 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: Godzilla over there too. 315 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bro. I was like, seriously, man, I was like, 316 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: we weren't on like Godzilla. I mean, everybody, the people 317 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: are so small, and then here we come in, you know, 318 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: and it's just it's it's it's a great place on 319 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: the I love rustling inst your pants. 320 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're still rapping about it over there. So 321 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: so you finally, you know, after your back held up 322 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: and you got back into it, you I guess you 323 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: guys both went back to w c WNF for most 324 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: of ninety six and then went back to w WF 325 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: that kind of mid nineties point. It's pretty I mean, 326 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: looking back on it now, it's pretty much the hottest 327 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: period of the business has ever seen, with the Monday 328 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: Night Wars and all that kind of stuff. Since you 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: were a part of both companies, what do you think 330 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: was the biggest difference between WCW nineteen ninety six and 331 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: WWF and nineteen ninety six. 332 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: You know, man, you know back Jersey bro And to 333 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: be honest with you, back in the late late eighties 334 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: two is when it all started, right, we were the 335 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: resting business was over twenty million homes at one time. 336 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. 337 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: And as you saw that you saw in the last 338 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Mels rating someone full on Facebook the other day. I mean, 339 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: but Austin last Monday in Basketball Garden, it only did 340 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: a two point one million share and then by the 341 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: end of our three I did a one point eight 342 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: three Why is that's telling you? You know, the business 343 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: is hurting right now. And even though we have more 344 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: companies opening up, which is great, the which is good 345 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: for the boys and girls in the business and that 346 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: end of its phenomenal, it's hurted from the fact that 347 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: it needs consistency and it needs storylines, right and so yeah, 348 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: so and that was the big thing with Hawk and 349 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: I and we were we're big storyline guys, right, We're 350 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: big on you know, someone keep screwing someone else and 351 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: here we come medi equalizer. You know. That was the 352 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: best part of our of our gimmick. And yeah, we 353 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: did have you know in the mid nineties, the good 354 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: to run it in you know w c W, which 355 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: was the kind of not the greatest run of our 356 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: career because you know, we could never get our contract 357 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: done with w c W because we were a japan entity, 358 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: and you know, they wanted us to give up Japan, 359 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: and you know, we weren't willing to give that up 360 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: because that was our only safe have it. You know, 361 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: you know what really did it was really cool about 362 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: it is that no matter when we went back to 363 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: w w F or anywhere. We did a couple of 364 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: shots in Philly and Baltimore. We did the raw one. 365 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: You know, I did the raw one was the show. 366 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: It was like I never left. You know, we still 367 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: get the same L D chat. You know, I did 368 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: a w last year of Chicago. You know, he had 369 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: twelve thousand people there in the seers centers chatting L 370 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: O D. And it was fricking awesome. Man. When I 371 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: wrote the motorcycle down to the ring, so it's it's uh, 372 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: it's just one of those freakish gimmicks, you know. You know, 373 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: I sat someone told me the other day and I 374 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: realized that in the all four major hall of Fame, 375 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: the Prussing Hall of Fame, the nw A Hall of Fame, 376 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: the w W Hall of Fame, and the UH and 377 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. There's only six guys 378 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: in all, four and Hawk and I are two of 379 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: the six guys. Yeah, yeah, man, So it's a it's 380 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: a it's a testament to what we did. But it's 381 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: also the testament that, man, our job and our our 382 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: main purpose was to entertain the fan and get the 383 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: sam what they paid for, and hopefully we did that. 384 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: You know, Speaking of that, I kind of wanted to 385 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: piggyback off that. So you mentioned earlier that you you 386 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: actually worked out at the same gym as one of 387 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: the guys from Demolition to I mean, to my knowledge, 388 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: you guys were the first ones to do the paint. 389 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: I mean I don't yeah, yeah, I don't. You know, 390 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: there may have been somebody in the seventies I'm not 391 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: aware of or something, but I mean, y'all were the 392 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: very first ones. And then you you know that the 393 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: Blade Runners became the Warrior and Staying, and then of 394 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: course you had Demolition. Did you guys have any hard 395 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: feelings against Demolition? Because I think y'all both were in 396 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: the WWF at the same time. At one point, you know, 397 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: was you know, some people definitely claimed that that was 398 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: Vince's version of you guys. And then of course he 399 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: got the real deal and Demolition broke up. So like, 400 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: was there any kind of like you know, animosity there 401 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: or were you just like, you know whatever, you're just doing. 402 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: Your job or no, man, whatsoever. I mean, both Demolition 403 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: were buddies of ours in the business. I have a 404 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: little smash as I was sixteen, you know, so it 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: wasn't big a deal to us, and we were the 406 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: first paying at tag team in the business. I mean, 407 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: we were already so established. There's nothing that could have 408 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: happened in Demolition was this version of us, because we 409 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: went up there and visited the first time and we 410 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: never got our deal done. And the next CEO some 411 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: months later, they made Demolition, and so we that's when 412 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: we stayed with the NWA and CW and then we 413 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: went back later and to the very first match against Emolation, 414 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: we beat him in seven minutes. Yeah, you know, because 415 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: because Vince's attitude was he didn't need him anymore. So 416 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean no, and that's not being conceded that we 417 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: were just one already right up there, the Ultimate Warrior 418 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: and Undertaker for our sales for merchandise. So we were 419 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: very very big telling stuff for kids and everything else. 420 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: And that's that's big in the company. You know, that's 421 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: really important. 422 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 5: If you would have told like Little Battle, who is 423 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: a wrestling fan, that he would be talking to a 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: guy that he looked up to on the phone right now, 425 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: I'd probably be like, no, you're crazy. So it's it's 426 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: literally to have you on the phone talking with us 427 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: right now, road Way, your animals on the phone with us. 428 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: You mentioned that you were big storyline guys, and I 429 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: kind of want to ask about this. So there was 430 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 5: a I guess in WWF, WWE, whatever you wanna call it. 431 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: At the time, there was like a controversial period for 432 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: lod with the Legion of Doom two thousands starting up 433 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: with Sonny Hawk on TV putting puke and using I 434 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 5: guess the real life struggles with Hawk on TV. Would 435 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: you do that storyline again if asked, because it seems 436 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 5: like they're kind of putting personal life now and putting 437 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: it out. 438 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: There for everybody. 439 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't have done it. I they you know, 440 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: to be honest with the depth of the time. They 441 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: wanted me to do that whole angle, and I said no, really, yeah, 442 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to let you know, as Hawk volunteer 443 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: to do it. And and you know, I told him 444 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: it's a listen, man, I got a kid in high school, 445 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: I got a kid in junior high, and I got 446 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: a kid elementary school. I'm not putting it through that. 447 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: You know, Hey, your dad's all messed up, he is 448 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: doing drug, he's all drunk or whatever. You know, It's 449 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: just to me, you don't need the Russian business always 450 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: sold out and he didn't need to go that lowe 451 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: and I don't even know why they wanted to go 452 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: that low so they didn't draw any money. Right. 453 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: Well, it was funny because that was the Attitude era, 454 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: and there was some very controversial things on TV from 455 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: the you know, Clanton Lease scat females to you know, Stephanie. 456 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe think about it, bro Hawk and I 457 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: were attitude from they won to us. 458 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: Well, and that's what's funny is that the the the 459 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: l D two thousand angle seemed to be the like 460 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: that to me, sound seemed to stick out like a 461 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: sore thumb, you know what I mean, Like it definitely 462 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: you know, you can kind of see it was blurring 463 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: the lines and stuff. But I was like, Okay, you 464 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: just had the Undertaker kidnapped Stephanie McMahon. You know, you're 465 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: dealing with all this very soap opera kind of thing, 466 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: and then the l D two thousand was a very 467 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: real ground thing and it was almost like to me, 468 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: that almost seemed more shocking than some of the stuff 469 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: they were showing, you know what I mean. Yeah, So 470 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: was that was that just all Vince's call? Was that 471 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: his story that he came up with? Or do you 472 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 4: remember her? 473 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, that was Vince's call, bro. And the reason 474 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: why I didn't last is because and everybody knows Sonny 475 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: as great as she was, you know she was, she 476 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: had her demons too, you know, and and and couldn't 477 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: you rid of them? And you know, and you know, 478 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: she was one of the hottest things in the wrestling 479 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: at that time. And I'll never forget the mess we're garden. 480 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: You know, she was a little bit e neebriated, and 481 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: you know, I told her, so we're going to come 482 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: in the ring, man, We're going to swing around a 483 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: little past with our spikes shoulder pads don't come near us. 484 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: And what does she do. She stands right next to 485 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: me and I kind of caught her on the cheap 486 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: with one of my spikes and that kind of lightly 487 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: lightly sprash sterette bud tricking down her cheek on TV, 488 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: and you know, Vince just got hot and me. Vince 489 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: was like, you know, I came back and he goes 490 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: Joe and she messed up and I said, little pens honestly, yeah, 491 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, and you know that you know that was 492 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: the first time she went to treatment or whatever. But 493 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, you know, the poor thing, you know, Hawk 494 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: and I never needed a manager, nor a female manager, 495 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 2: and we were gonna have anybody who should have had 496 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: Paul ellery the whole time. Yeah, you know, And uh, 497 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: I think the attitudeer, although it was popular, I think 498 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: it was to be honest with one of the most 499 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: degreeing times in our business, to really be honest with you. 500 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just there's just some stuff done on TV, 501 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: like Brown's Panties matches and all those other stuff, and 502 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I know they want to say that 503 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: the older audiences are audience, but it's the kids to 504 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: get the parents to go to the event by the 505 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: action figures and the and the T shirts and everything else. 506 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: And you know, the Hogan number one phone, you know, 507 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: hand you know it's not it's not the frigging twenty 508 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: five thirty year old, you know what I mean, right, 509 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: And it just it just got to a place that 510 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: kind of was almost kind of like point of no return. 511 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: And now you know, they're trying to get back to 512 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: doing fan family at Frendly Entertainment. But it's hard man 513 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: and that's what's good about Tumpany's, like you know, World 514 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Class Revolution down in Dallas in Oklahoma, Tried True you know, 515 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: Jason Maples out Indiana, another guy. They run very good 516 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: events that are fan friendly and geared towards the younger audience, 517 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: you know. And there's no bron pennis matches. There's no 518 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: ridiculous stupid things. 519 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's one thing you'll never see at a 520 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 5: Tried and True wrestling event. It is very family oriented. 521 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: We've had Crimson on before, which tomorrow night it is 522 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: going down in Gallatin Station Camp High School. Tickets still available. 523 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: Tried and truepro dot com people that are going to 524 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: be there. Of course, the Man, the Myth, the Legend 525 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 5: on the phone with us right now. Road Warrior Animal's 526 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: going to be there, the war Kings newly minted n 527 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 5: w A tag team champion, Bron's going to be there, 528 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 5: Camille Kick Cash and so many more. And it all 529 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: is a benefit show for Ray of Hope Foundation, which, 530 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: by the way, tomorrow night we're gonna be there. Can 531 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: I have like a tutorial of like how to put 532 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: the face paint on so I can do this myself. 533 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pay put the right numbers on your face. 534 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: You can just put the color out of there. 535 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: Perfect. 536 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: It's color by numbers, color color by numbers. But yeah, man, 537 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: fanc need to come on out. Man, put on the spikes, 538 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: shoulder pads, get an autograph, sign eight by ten, whatever 539 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: you want and take a picture. And it's going to 540 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: be a great night, great night for an event, great 541 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: night for raising money for the cause, and it's it's 542 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: all about fan appreciation. 543 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Crimson and Tried and True, how did 544 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: how did you guys get hooked up? Did y'all did 545 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: y'all meet when you were involved with Impact or did 546 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: you just kind of meet on the road don't you 547 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: know how. 548 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: No, man, I went down again to try and truly 549 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: event and I looked at Jackson Crimson. I said, man, 550 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: these guys got a great look. And then I watched 551 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: some work and I studied them for a while, and 552 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: I today, you want to do something together, Let's do it, 553 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be together. It's just that, you know, 554 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: Crimson just had shoulder surgery, so he's kind of out 555 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: of action. But you know it's you know, my role 556 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow night will be very limited because there's not really 557 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: anything for me to do. But it's it's it's gonna 558 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: be uh in the future. People need to look out men. 559 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: I think the Wark King is going to be a team. 560 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: To be wrecked with watching those two go at it. 561 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: Like I met Crimson in person and I was like, 562 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: that's a big dude. And then when jacks came in, 563 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: I was like, holy. 564 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: Crap, like, oh yeah, man, Jackson, yeah, Jackson, and I 565 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: are about to say the size and Jackson a big 566 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: chat man. He's a big, big guy. 567 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: And I've watched guys try to chop them down and 568 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 5: there's no chance in hell they're getting that guy down. 569 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you get them together. Man, you know 570 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: it's it's and you got me in their corner that 571 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: has been through every type of tag team match there 572 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: could be, is bro. As long as they listen to me, 573 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: then they're gonna make it, make it far. You know. 574 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: You know something I kind of I want to reflect 575 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: on with you for a little bit. Let's go back 576 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: to twenty eleven, a big moment for you guys' career, 577 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: the Road Warriors inducked into the WW Hall of Fame. 578 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 4: What did that honor mean? 579 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 5: Do you like what was going through when when they 580 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: called you up and said, hey, you're going. 581 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: In this year. 582 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, you know, I sold. 583 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: My brother called me up and told me and I said, well, 584 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: I said, to be honest with you, John, I said, 585 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: we could have went in with Hawk was still alive, 586 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, which, you know, I think we we would 587 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: have deserved that. There was a no brainer. We should 588 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: have went in. But when I look at the big 589 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: picture and they were trying to wait to Atlanta where 590 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: we all started the whole thing and everything else, the 591 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: only downfall was then we talked, you know, and when 592 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Paul ellery put that little mini action figure up on 593 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: the podium, you know, I got lost it. 594 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 5: You know, I think everybody almost lost it when that happened, 595 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: Like I got tears. 596 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you had you had twenty thousand people all 597 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: chanting hawk. Yeah. So it was surreal. 598 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Man. 599 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: It was pretty cool. And you know, going in that 600 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame was awesome. It was a good event, 601 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, and you see something, you know, some of 602 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: the prison starting where they're laughing, you know, like Amiz 603 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: and some of the other young guys at the time, 604 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, and and then a look at the audience 605 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: to see Triple h and you know, Austin had been 606 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: to the family and my family was there. It was 607 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: pretty cool. 608 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely one of those you know, I 609 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: don't know why it took so long to. 610 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: Get you guys in, but you know, like politics, all politics, you. 611 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I mean I guess so, but you know, yeah, 612 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: you are a four time Hall of Famer. 613 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: Now get someone get their painties in a bunch, and 614 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: it just takes a while. You know, what are you 615 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: gonna do? 616 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: We'll go piggybacking off that. Where can people keep up 617 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 4: with you on social media? Kind of keep up with 618 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: your schedule and what you got next? 619 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I take bookings on my personal website, 620 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: Joseph Laurias. Uh, you know you can go there. You 621 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: can just message me. I take bookings through that. You know, 622 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: other ways you can do it on uh, you know, 623 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: book for us dot com. You go there and get 624 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: a hold of me for appearances or my uh water 625 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: rush podcast. You know, you go on my water rush 626 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: podcast site and you know, I think it's water rush 627 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: dot com and uh, you'll get on there and check 628 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: it out and send inquiries about bookings and everything else. Man. 629 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: So it's there's funny ways to reach me. 630 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 4: So we've asked a couple of people here recently about 631 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: this and we've actually got we've got one of the 632 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: vps coming on soon. But uh, you kind of touched 633 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: on it earlier about uh, you know, there's a lot 634 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: of a lot of options for wrestlers now, you know, 635 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: the quality maybe varies a little bit, but you know 636 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: there's a lot of choices right now. Uh what do 637 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: you what do you think about a w h I mean, 638 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: what do you think about their chances of survival in 639 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: the current climate. 640 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: Well, you know, man, you got you got impact r 641 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: O e H, you got you know, the NWA is 642 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: trying to do something. You know, they got to get 643 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: the right people at the office first to make that work. 644 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: And soon as Billy Corgan figure that out, it'll be 645 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: great again. And then you have ae W. Now it's 646 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: kind of like mixed I always hear from the fans 647 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: when I listen to the fans, there's kind of like 648 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: mixed reviews about aew right and one sentence, it's great. 649 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: I think it'd be a great place for Jackson Crimson 650 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: to go in there with me and totally destroy that 651 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: tag team deal. There's a couple questionable issues going on 652 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: with you know, and it's been all over Facebook, and 653 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: it's the secret man with the transgender thing and all 654 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: that other stuff, and you know, and the amazing thing 655 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: is man's entertaining the fan, is having an open mind, 656 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: open mind for the resting business and entertaining this fan, 657 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: you know. So I think that's you know, the main thing. 658 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: But I think they have you know, they said they 659 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: weren't going to hotshot it, but so far with I've 660 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: seen from mew is, they have been hot shot right. 661 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. There's no storyline. I mean, 662 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: first I thought that they had the match with Dustin 663 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: and Cody, which was probably one of the best matches 664 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: I've seen in the last twenty years. I thought that 665 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: was gonna be a huge angle, and then it was 666 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: a blow off against you know once the next week, 667 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: and then Cody went off and wrestle somewhere else. I'm 668 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: not even seen Dustin, and then yet you know, and 669 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: you know now you have you know, John Moxley got hurt, 670 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: so and then Jericho now is the champ, and you 671 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: know Jericho's gonna wrestle Cody. I guess I don't even 672 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: know what's going on. Man, I'm confused, and I can't 673 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: imagine what the fans are gonna do. And I think 674 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: they need to straighten that out. But maybe they will 675 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: with TV. I'm sure with TV they will. You know 676 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: when again Turner and they had straightened it out. It's 677 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: a show. But think about a guy. There's gonna be 678 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: eight to nine hours of wrestling a leach now, which 679 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: is going to be I think it's gonna oversaturate it 680 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna be overkilled because you're gonna have, 681 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: you know, two hours of the manx T three hours 682 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: of raw, two hours to SmackDown. You're gonna you know, 683 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: and that's just you got two o five Live, you're 684 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna have, you know, two hours of ae W. I mean, 685 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: that's a lot of. 686 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: Wrestling, and it's it's it's kind of crazy because it's 687 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 5: like it it reminds you of like the Monday Night Wars. 688 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: Now that like W is saying, hey, we're going on 689 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: Wednesday night, same night as a w But I think 690 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 5: the one thing that kind of caught us off car 691 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: was that WW is like, we're gonna show one hour 692 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 5: of NXT on Wednesday night, you have to watch the second. 693 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: Hour on the network. 694 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. 695 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: You want to make it. 696 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Is supposed to be so much better than WWE. Why 697 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: is it not two hours? I mean they must have 698 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: did that because they have a deal with you know, 699 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: the USA network that they have to fulfill. But I mean, 700 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: they better get together with the good programming for Fox. 701 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: The Fox ball put up with it. No. 702 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: I think the rumors we've been hearing is that some 703 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: of these changes have been implemented by Fox, like the 704 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: twenty four hours twenty four to seven Championship and this 705 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: wild cord rule, which I think they're going to go 706 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: away from any day now. 707 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: But h yeah they should. The wild plow rule is stupid. 708 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no reason for it. 709 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: No, bro, if you look at it the show, and 710 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be you know, negative fancy here, man, 711 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: but you look at the show. You have the same 712 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: guys on both programs. They're the same girls. And I 713 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: was sitting there the other day on my podcast and 714 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: I said, where's Osaka, where's all these great girls? Where's 715 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: Mandy Rose Live Live Morgan, where's you know, where's some 716 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: of these great females that were on the show. Where's 717 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: roost Heads? Yeah, where's Lama? You know, Where's where's a 718 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: lot of these guys? Yeah? Man, where's everybody going? They 719 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: just disappear. I mean, I know the usos are getting 720 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: punished because of the second d I thing, but I mean, 721 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, where are Where's there? You know it's and 722 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: it needs to be fixed. And if you want to 723 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: build stars, you have to put all your stars on TV. 724 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you think do you think WWE works better 725 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: as just one roster and then everyone's spread out across 726 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: the shows or do you like the way that they've 727 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 4: done it with the kind of the the draft where 728 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 4: some people are all some people are smacked down. Do 729 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: you think that helps their creative or do you think 730 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: it hurts it? 731 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: I think I heard them. I think you need to 732 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: stay with one brand and stay with the brands. Yeah, 733 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't think you should be crossing over. I don't 734 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: think the world tore thing makes any sense for a 735 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: while there. Romant Rains is on every show every week, 736 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: and it's overkill. You know, people only want to see 737 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: them so much. It's almost like you see them too much. 738 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: And when you think about it, do you think, Yeah, bro, 739 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: you think about it. When Hawk and Heights come out, 740 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: they would say, coming up the road Warriors, you never 741 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: see us open up the show? Well, we would. We 742 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: would tell on near the end, and everybody would take 743 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: two the whole hour because they wanted to see what 744 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: we were going to do or what we were going 745 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: to say. 746 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 5: I know I sure did. Every time that I saw that, 747 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 5: I was like, Nope, not changing the channel, Mom, not 748 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 5: going to bed this time. Let's uh wait for a 749 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 5: little bit. 750 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I mean, bro. There's no anticipation 751 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: now for the show. You know, there's nobody waiting to 752 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: see what someone's going to say, because you're want to 753 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: show up with the fifteen minute promo. 754 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, and then I guess with the with thinking 755 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 5: back then and now it's like social media now you 756 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 5: can already kind of know what's going on with like 757 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: Dave Melter and all them with the dirt Sheets pretty 758 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 5: much spoil it. 759 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like everybody watches everybody knows what's going 760 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: on before the show even airs. Yeah. 761 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: It used to be like especially probably at least in 762 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: the nineties or you know, late nineties, like Attitude Ara stuff. 763 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you pretty much felt like you had to 764 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 4: watch every single week. You had to you had to 765 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: be sitting on your couch on Monday to know what 766 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: was going to happen. Now, you know, I could not 767 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: watch Monday Night Raw for six weeks, turn it on 768 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: randomly on a Monday, and I'll be caught up like 769 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 4: there's nothing They're not like they're not like dragging it 770 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: out to make you like, oh, tune in next week, 771 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 4: you know, like there's nothing out there. 772 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 5: You know. 773 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm well, bro, that's why it's tried and true, baby, 774 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: That's why it is tomorrow tried and to tomorrow come 775 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: on out. People will be very very pleased to be 776 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: entertained and you'll be giving a great show. And like 777 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: I say, man, it's for a great cause. 778 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: Tickets are still available tried in truepro dot com. 779 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: It is for a great cause, like Animal just said, 780 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 5: Ray of Hope Foundation is an organization that helps provide 781 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: financial assistance to those families whose child is currently in 782 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 5: treatment for pediatric brain tumor or brain cancer. Station Camp 783 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 5: High School tomorrow, that's what it is. You can meet 784 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 5: road Warrior Animal, like you said, get a photo with 785 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: the pads on, which that in itself right there, is 786 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 5: worth buying a ticket to begin with. 787 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: Even at like five thousand bucks. I think, even though we. 788 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 5: Know that the event is gonna be awesome, just being 789 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: able to put the shoulder pads on and like I 790 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 5: guess bringing my childhood to me right now, that's what's 791 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 5: getting me tomorrow. 792 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey bro, oh what a rush there you go. 793 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: I literally just now got on that right there. 794 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 5: That is the greatest thing in the world. Rotor Animal, 795 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 5: thank you so much for hanging out with us today, 796 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 5: and we are definitely looking forward to come and saying. 797 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: Hi you tomorrow. Yeah. Thanks that all guy. 798 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: We hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Battleground. 799 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: Make sure you give it five stars and leave a 800 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: nice review. 801 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: If you want to stay up to date, follow them 802 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: at Battleground Podcast on Instagram,