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<v Speaker 1>Strange Arrivals is a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and

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<v Speaker 1>Mild from Aaron Mackey. For the best experience, listen with headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>The second floor of the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence contains

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<v Speaker 1>three sets of apartments appointed with frescoes, tapestries, and artwork

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<v Speaker 1>dating back as far as the Renaissance. Among the group

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<v Speaker 1>of apartments known as the Apartments of the Elements is

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<v Speaker 1>the Hercules Room, and in the Hercules Room is a

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<v Speaker 1>circular portrait of the Madonna and Child and the Infant

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<v Speaker 1>Saint John, whose creation has been attributed to a number

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<v Speaker 1>of artists, including Filipino Lippi. It's about what you'd expect

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<v Speaker 1>from a Renaissance painting. With that title, Mary praised above

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<v Speaker 1>the Infant Jesus, who reaches out to her while being

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<v Speaker 1>held by the Infant Saint John. Strangely, though, an object

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<v Speaker 1>appears to hover in the air in the background above

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's shoulder. A closer look reveals a football shaped entity,

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<v Speaker 1>light gray on top, darker on the bottom, with yellow

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<v Speaker 1>spikes emerging like beams of light. In the background, A

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<v Speaker 1>robed man with a dog looks up at the object.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on here? I was finishing a book

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<v Speaker 1>on the Catholic doctrine of purgatory, in which it was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge project. I went to archives all over and

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<v Speaker 1>what I was looking at is Catholics used to do

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<v Speaker 1>devotions to souls in purgatory and that all kind of stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't do those anymore, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know why. I am Diana Pasolka, and I'm a professor

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of North Carolina and Wilmington, and my

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<v Speaker 1>field has been in Catholic history and Catholic traditions. I

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<v Speaker 1>found the reasons for that, and I wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I also found that Catholics had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experiences of aerial phenomena from basically a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago till now. And because the Catholic Church takes

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good notes, they're known for their record keeping. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Vatican Library and Secret Archive and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at a lot of the documents there. I found

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<v Speaker 1>that there were all of these aerial phenomena incidences, and

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<v Speaker 1>the frameworks for understanding those were basically religious. They see

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<v Speaker 1>something like a disk in the sky, and they'd call

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<v Speaker 1>it an angel, or they call it a demon, or

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<v Speaker 1>they call it a lost soul from burgatory. And at

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<v Speaker 1>this point it never occurred to me that these are

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like UFOs, but they were. They were

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<v Speaker 1>unidentified objects that then were identified through Catholic frameworks. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>when someone sees something that they can't explain, they try

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it according to their belief framework. A Renaissance

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<v Speaker 1>Italian sees a desk and uses a Catholic framework to

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<v Speaker 1>perceive it as a demon or angel. People now are

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<v Speaker 1>culturally ready to identify them UFOs visitors from space or

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<v Speaker 1>another dimension. But what happens when the belief in UFOs

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the framework that a person uses to interpret things

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<v Speaker 1>that happen in the world around them. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you look at strange things that occur in

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<v Speaker 1>people's lives and you interpret them with the assumption that

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<v Speaker 1>the cause is most likely UFOs. This season on Strange Arrivals,

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<v Speaker 1>we will look at people who are not only sure

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<v Speaker 1>that UFOs are from somewhere else, but if put UFOs

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<v Speaker 1>at the center of their worldviews, what happens when they

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<v Speaker 1>become involved in investigating hard to explain events. How does

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<v Speaker 1>their presence affect our perception of the event and even

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<v Speaker 1>the experiencers own understanding of what they've been through. But

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<v Speaker 1>to begin the season, we'll set a baseline by looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a case that didn't attract prominent UFO investigators and

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<v Speaker 1>see how the witnesses understood there counter. I'm Toby Ball

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Strange Arrivals, Episode one, Boyani. On July fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty nine, an Anglican missionary named Father William Gill,

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<v Speaker 1>stationed at the Boyani Mission in Papua New Guinea, wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to Father Norman Cruttwell, who was at the

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<v Speaker 1>Anglican mission in Manapi, also in Papua New Guinea. The

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<v Speaker 1>letter began, Dan, woman, here is a lot of material,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind you've been waiting for, no doubt, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am in some ways sorry that it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>me who supplies it. I just choose at Dagura in

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<v Speaker 1>respected my sanity very greatly, and like all madmen, I

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<v Speaker 1>myself think my gray cells are okay. This was essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a cover letter for a collection of documents that Gil

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<v Speaker 1>had sent to Crutwell. Together, they told the story of

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<v Speaker 1>a week that began when a distant light was cited,

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<v Speaker 1>one that seemingly could not be explained. The week ended

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<v Speaker 1>with an encounter that occurred over three days and was

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed by thirty eight people, including Gill, other personnel at

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<v Speaker 1>the mission, and local Papuans. So you might be wondering

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<v Speaker 1>where is Papua New Guinea. Papua New Guinea is the

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<v Speaker 1>eastern portion of the island, known as either Papua or

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<v Speaker 1>New Guinea. The western portion is a province of Indonesia,

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<v Speaker 1>while Papua New Guinea is now an independent commonwealth. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty nine, when these events occurred, it was overseen

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<v Speaker 1>by Australia, which is only eighty miles across the era

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<v Speaker 1>for a sea from the southern tip of the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Father Gil and Father Crutwell were two Australian missionaries at

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<v Speaker 1>tiny missionary stations around good Enough Bay, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>peninsula that makes up the easternmost part of the island.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gura, which Gil mentions in his letter, is the

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<v Speaker 1>headquarters of the Anglican diocese in this area. On June

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first, five days before the first Mass sighting, a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher evangelist named Stephen Moy, who was stationed at Boyani

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<v Speaker 1>along with Father Gill, saw light in the early hours

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<v Speaker 1>of the morning. This is Gil from a speech given

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<v Speaker 1>later in nineteen fifty nine in England recounting his conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Moy after Moy's sighting. Moy is referred to here

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<v Speaker 1>as Stephen moy Gill, one of my head teachers. Teachers

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Stealen moy Gill, which sound about suspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Last Sunday night, I saw a rather sing also is no.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a report about this event for Gil. It

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<v Speaker 1>began with Moy walking out of his house at one

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. The text of the report is read

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<v Speaker 1>by an actor. I saw a bright white light silently

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of a sky from a point about a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter a mile out to see slightly west of boy

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<v Speaker 1>Andei Mission station. It descended from what seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a great height, and I thought at first it was

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<v Speaker 1>a falling star. He watched for what he estimated to

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<v Speaker 1>be about three minutes as it descended and moved to

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<v Speaker 1>the east along the coast. It settled at what Mooy

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<v Speaker 1>guessed to be about three hundred feet above the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>There it remained stationary for perhaps half a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>gradually decreased in brilliance until the shape of an inverted

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<v Speaker 1>saucer could be discerned, which was tilted backwards with part

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<v Speaker 1>of the base visible. The object then moved upwards and

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared from view into the clouds. Moi also mentioned to

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<v Speaker 1>Gil his first impression upon glimpsing the light at the

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<v Speaker 1>was a light similar to those dropped by planes during

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<v Speaker 1>the war. This would be World War Two. Here's Gill

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<v Speaker 1>again talking about his questions to Moy after the sighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an object over the sea, and I ask you

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<v Speaker 1>more kinds of questions about his size and shape. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted naper sixth and what he lack of place? And

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<v Speaker 1>each time he came there he said, no, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an the nearest thing that I can relate to. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this was not the first time unexplained lights had been

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the area. In a strange coincidence, the day

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<v Speaker 1>before he had his first sighting at Boyani, Gill wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to Reverend David Durry, the acting principle of

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Aidan's College in Dagura, an institution for training teacher

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<v Speaker 1>evangelists such as Stephen Moy. There are being quite a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reports over the months from reliable witnesses. The

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<v Speaker 1>peculiar thing about these most recent reports is that the

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs seem to be stationary Boyanni, or to travel from Boyanny.

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<v Speaker 1>I myself saw a stationary white light twice on the

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<v Speaker 1>same night on April ninth. I do not doubt the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of these things, but my simple mind still requires

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<v Speaker 1>scientific evidence before I can accept from outer space theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I am inclined to believe that probably many UFOs are

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<v Speaker 1>more likely some form of electric phenomena, or perhaps something

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<v Speaker 1>broad about by the Aden bomb explosions, etc. Then, addressing

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<v Speaker 1>Moy's sighting four days prior, he wrote that Stephen should

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<v Speaker 1>actually make out a saucer could be the work of

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<v Speaker 1>the unconscious mind, as it is very likely that at

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<v Speaker 1>some time he has seen illustrations of some kind in

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<v Speaker 1>a magazine. It is all too difficult to understand for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You signed off yours doubting. William gil acknowledged that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't question Moy's version of his sighting. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>referenced both his and other a similar experiences, but he

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<v Speaker 1>maintained that he did not think that these lights warranted

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<v Speaker 1>any undue attention. The very next day, June twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Gil again wrote to Dry, but this time his attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards the lights was entirely different. Dear David. Life is strange,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yesterday I wrote you a letter expressing opinions

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<v Speaker 1>are the UFOs? Now less than twenty four hours later

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<v Speaker 1>I have changed my views somewhat. Last night we are

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<v Speaker 1>Boyani experienced about four hours of UFO activity and there

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<v Speaker 1>is no doubt whatsoever that they are handled by beings

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind. At times it was absolutely breathtaking. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is the report. This time he signed off cheers, convinced

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<v Speaker 1>Bill what had happened to cause this change of heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Father Gill sent a report on the events of that

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<v Speaker 1>night and the two that followed to Father Norman Crutwell.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard the beginning of the cover letter earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Father Gill had taken careful notes of what

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<v Speaker 1>he observed during the encounter. Again from his nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine speech in England, this is what I think right

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<v Speaker 1>for this is the sort of thing that no believe

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<v Speaker 1>unless I write it down. In fact, I went believe

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<v Speaker 1>it unless I write it down either, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>how it is, especially at the tribe. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any whisky on board, but you never know that people

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<v Speaker 1>might might believe that I wrote this minutes I minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever anything happened, I put it down, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just as sit as best I had a write, an

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<v Speaker 1>academic approach to I was not excited, not that I remember, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a common enough of mind to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to because the events was having become Crutwell used

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<v Speaker 1>guils report and his own investigation to author a three

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<v Speaker 1>part article that appeared in the November nineteen sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>and January March nineteen sixty two editions of the April Bulletin,

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<v Speaker 1>the newsletter of the prominent at the time Aerial phenomena

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<v Speaker 1>research organization based in the United States. The text of

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<v Speaker 1>this report reads, father Gill that just had his dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and came out of the front door of the mission house.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a small patch of lawn, a few trees, including

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<v Speaker 1>coconut palms, and then a drop of perhaps fifty feet

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<v Speaker 1>to the shingle beach below. He casually glanced at the

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<v Speaker 1>sky and looked for Venus, which was conspicuous at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>In his own words, I saw Venus, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>saw this sparkling object, which to me was peculiar because

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<v Speaker 1>it sparkled, and because it was very very bright, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was above Venus, so that caused me to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it for a while, and then I saw a descent

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<v Speaker 1>towards us. Stephen gil Moy, who joined Father Gill a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes later, described it as shining with a bright

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<v Speaker 1>white light like at Tilly Lamp. At Tilly Lamp is

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<v Speaker 1>a kerosene lamp, the kind that many people use when camping.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen remarks that it appeared to wax and wane in brightness,

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<v Speaker 1>as though it was approaching and receding. The object eventually

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<v Speaker 1>came fairly close and maintained that distance. This is Father

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<v Speaker 1>gil relating this sighting many years later in the strange

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven film UFOs Are Here the Dao Diaries.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just hovering, not very far high up maybe two

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<v Speaker 1>or three hundred feet up in the air, and glowing

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<v Speaker 1>and two bipods jutting out from underneath it and sparkling

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<v Speaker 1>all around. In his nineteen fifty nine speech, Gil gave

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<v Speaker 1>further details about the appearance of the craft, an outdone

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<v Speaker 1>of a saucer, a dark portion between it and the

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<v Speaker 1>smartly night, so there's a light outside, darkness and the

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<v Speaker 1>ardent itself that is most Another most little thing is

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<v Speaker 1>the chapter blue electric or light emanating from the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the past up towards it, or an electric blue light,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I destroyed as a pencil with light.

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<v Speaker 1>Again from the text of Crutwell's report, Father Gill states

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<v Speaker 1>that it changed from a brilliant white light when it

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<v Speaker 1>was far off, to a dull yellow or perhaps pale

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<v Speaker 1>orange when it was close. When asked whether he thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was metallic, he answered, well, with the pigs solid

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not transparent or gaseous, we just assumed that it

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<v Speaker 1>was metallic from our own experience of things that travel

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<v Speaker 1>and carry men. All witnesses agree that it was circular,

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<v Speaker 1>that it had a wide base and a narrower a deck,

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<v Speaker 1>that it had a type of legs beneath it, that

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<v Speaker 1>it produced at times a shaft of blue light which

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<v Speaker 1>shone upwards into the sky at an angle of about

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<v Speaker 1>forty five degrees. So to summarize, Gil and his companion

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<v Speaker 1>saw a late descend to within a fairly close distance

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<v Speaker 1>to where they stood on the shore, at which point

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<v Speaker 1>they could see that it was a craft of some type.

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<v Speaker 1>It was saucer shaped, and let with an additional light

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<v Speaker 1>beam reaching into the sky. There also seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a light that is somewhat separate from the craft hovering

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<v Speaker 1>close to it. But this was not all they saw

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. Strange rivals will return in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Father William Gill and a group of other missionaries and

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<v Speaker 1>local people had watched a light approach until it came

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<v Speaker 1>close enough to make out that it was a physical

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<v Speaker 1>craft hovering above the ocean. When we think about a

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<v Speaker 1>classic flying saucer or UFO, I think we picture a

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<v Speaker 1>craft that is fully enclosed, like an airplane. But Gil

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<v Speaker 1>reported that this craft had a deck like a boat

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<v Speaker 1>from his nineteen fifty nine speech. Was a thick structure

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<v Speaker 1>the two pass of what I called the body of

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd, and then there was what I interpreted as

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<v Speaker 1>a superstructure on top of that. He was on the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and as reminded us, I think of the craft and

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<v Speaker 1>on this stack, Gil and the assembled crowd sat figures

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<v Speaker 1>from Crutwell's report. As we watched it, men came out

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<v Speaker 1>from this object and appeared on the top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>on what seemed to be a deck on top of

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<v Speaker 1>a huge disk. There were four men in all, occasionally two,

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<v Speaker 1>then one, then three, then four. We noted the various

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<v Speaker 1>times the men appeared, and then later on all those

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses who were quite sure that our records were right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they agreed with them and saw the men

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time as I did, were able to

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<v Speaker 1>sign their names as witnesses of what we assumed to

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<v Speaker 1>be human activity or beings of some sort on the

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<v Speaker 1>object itself. Gil also remarked about the way the blue

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<v Speaker 1>light reflected on the figures on the craft, in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to a general glow that he said surrounded them but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually touched them, that there was some gap between

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<v Speaker 1>them and the lay. He further explained that in his observations,

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<v Speaker 1>the men seemed to be illuminated in two ways by

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<v Speaker 1>reflected light as men seen working high up on a

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<v Speaker 1>building at night, brought by the glare of an oxy

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<v Speaker 1>aceateleine torch, and b by this curious halo which outlined them,

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<v Speaker 1>following every contour of their figures, and yet did not

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<v Speaker 1>touch them. In fact, they seemed to be illuminated themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way as the machine was. Gil was

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<v Speaker 1>asked whether the men might have been wearing some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of space suits. His reply, according to Crutwell's report, was

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say that. Maybe so that would seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be a possible explanation of the double outline, but I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see any such suits. Crutwell's report continues, I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him whether he could see any detail, such as the

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<v Speaker 1>color of their skins. He replied that they were too

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<v Speaker 1>far away to see such details, but that he would

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<v Speaker 1>say they were probably pile As for the details of

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies, all he could be sure of was that

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<v Speaker 1>they had an outline of normal human beings from the

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<v Speaker 1>waist up. Their legs were hidden by the sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the craft. If we're in clothes, they were very tight fitting.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the craft with the figures onboard, there

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<v Speaker 1>were other smaller objects Crutwell uses the word discs that

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<v Speaker 1>moved around more than the larger craft. They're described as

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<v Speaker 1>moving erratically, sometimes fast, sometimes slow, coming closer and then retreating,

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:47.600
<v Speaker 1>occasionally swinging back and forth like a pendulum. Several witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>later drew pictures of the bigger ship. While there are

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<v Speaker 1>minor differences in things such as the number of legs

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<v Speaker 1>descending from the bottom, they're clearly the same object around disc,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps fairly thick, with the smaller structure resting on top

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<v Speaker 1>on which the figures walked. There are interesting differences in

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<v Speaker 1>perspective as well, with some drawings depicting the angle at

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<v Speaker 1>which the object was sited and others showing the objects

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<v Speaker 1>straight on, though during the sighting they were always looking

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<v Speaker 1>up at it. At nine thirty that night, after nearly

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<v Speaker 1>three hours, the crafts finally departed, wavering slightly, then taking

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<v Speaker 1>off at great speed. The largest of them eventually receded

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<v Speaker 1>to a distance where it was merely a pin point

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky, and then vanished. And there the encounter

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<v Speaker 1>ended for that night, because at about six o'clock the

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<v Speaker 1>next evening, a Papuan medical assistant named Anne Laurie Barewa

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<v Speaker 1>called to Father Gill that the large UFO had returned.

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<v Speaker 1>Gill arrived on the scene around two minutes after six

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<v Speaker 1>and saw what he thought was the largest of the

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<v Speaker 1>craft from the previous night. It seemed a little smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>but he attributed that to would probably being further away.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Gil called for the others to come to the object.

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<v Speaker 1>He reported to Critewell, although the sun had set, it

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<v Speaker 1>was quite light for the following fifteen minutes, we watched

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<v Speaker 1>figures appear on top four of them. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that they were human. This is possibly the same

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<v Speaker 1>object that I took to be the Mothership last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Two smaller UFOs were seen at the time, stationary one

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<v Speaker 1>above the hills west and another overhead on the large one.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of the figures seemed to be doing something near

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the deck. They were occasionally bending over

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<v Speaker 1>and raising their arm as though were adjusting or setting

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<v Speaker 1>up something not visible. One figure seemed to be standing

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<v Speaker 1>looking down at us a group of about a dozen.

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<v Speaker 1>This figure stood with his hands on the rail, looking over,

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<v Speaker 1>just as Father Gill said, quote one will look over

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<v Speaker 1>the rails of a ship. At this point, Father Gill

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<v Speaker 1>decided to wave to the figures on the craft to

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<v Speaker 1>see if he could make contact with them. From the

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<v Speaker 1>movie UFOs are here the Dao Diaries, And so we waved,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it be wonderful if we could get this object

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<v Speaker 1>down onto the playing field. And as we waved, wondering

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<v Speaker 1>whether we'd get some recognition and whether perhaps they would

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<v Speaker 1>understand what we wanted, they waved back. Here's Gill as

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<v Speaker 1>told to Crutwell in his report, there seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt that our movements were answered. All the mission

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<v Speaker 1>boys made audible gasps of either joy or surprise. Gil

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<v Speaker 1>and his companions proceeded to flash lights on and off

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<v Speaker 1>towards the craft, and perceived that these offerings were acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>by the craft, which would make a slight dip in reply.

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<v Speaker 1>They then returned to waving, But the figures on the

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<v Speaker 1>craft had returned whatever it was they had been doing,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're more interested in what they were doing on

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<v Speaker 1>the south than in us. This was the impressive week off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in my report he will say that great ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and then going on with whatever the business was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was six thirty at this point, and Gil and his

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<v Speaker 1>companions left the scene for dinner. After dinner, they saw

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<v Speaker 1>that the big ufo was still there, though it might

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<v Speaker 1>have receded somewhat. They then decided to go ahead with

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<v Speaker 1>the day's evensong, a church service traditionally held near sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>Just prior to the evening service, about seven o'clock, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing was there again. It had arrived about an hour earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all decided to have the normal even song

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<v Speaker 1>that we do have on those nights, because well, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing was out there outside the church anyway, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really wouldn't go away doing the service, and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>When he came out, very well was still up in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky, and so for another hour or two we watched,

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly it did go, and there was this

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<v Speaker 1>amazingly incredible speed that they hollcraft disappeared to nothing across

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<v Speaker 1>the bay in that of the second or say, this

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of the second night of the encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that seems to have had the most

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<v Speaker 1>impact on Father Gil. When you listen to him talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these encounters. There is of course the amazement of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a craft like this descend from the skies and

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<v Speaker 1>hover in view. There is the appearance of four figures

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<v Speaker 1>for one of a better description the crew of the craft.

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<v Speaker 1>But what seems to really stay with him is that he,

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<v Speaker 1>through his wave and their reply, communicated with things that,

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<v Speaker 1>while they looked human, were most likely not another very

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>station there without any doubt a pour in my own

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<v Speaker 1>mind in any case, but I saw it is one

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<v Speaker 1>thing which I just coun't count wise pounds of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something June waves. It was a parent response the

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<v Speaker 1>way the way plisibly gay. The third night of the

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<v Speaker 1>encounter was far less dramatic than the first two. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in Crotewell's article in the Aprol Bulletin, the third night

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<v Speaker 1>is reduced to a brief timeline starting with six pm,

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<v Speaker 1>when apparently someone looked for a UFO in the sky

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<v Speaker 1>without success. By six forty five one had appeared, though

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<v Speaker 1>it was very high and almost directly overhead. By nine

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>there were three arranged in a nearly straight line. At eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>eight UFOs, the largest number seen at one time over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the nights, were arrayed in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>One appeared to be fairly low, but there was no

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<v Speaker 1>sign of activity on the deck. And that's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the report for the third and final night of

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>this unusual encounter. In trying to explain what Gil and

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>his companion saw over those three nights, there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me to be two different things going on. One is

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<v Speaker 1>the number of small objects, which are mostly referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as lights. Alan Heinik, who was the best known UFO

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>researcher at the time, looked into this encounter, including interviewing

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Gil and other witnesses. He concluded that these smaller objects

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>were not entirely surprisingly misidentified bright stars and planets. This

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>happens all the time, But Heineck didn't have an explanation

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for the larger object, and that, of course, is why

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>this sighting is so interesting, the bigger craft with the

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<v Speaker 1>figures on top. I am not aware of another modern report,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the one from Boyani, with figures actually atop

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a craft while it hovers in the air. Because the

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>craft was positioned over the sea. The obvious answer would

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<v Speaker 1>be that they mistook a ship for an aerial craft.

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<v Speaker 1>But how could this be true if dozens of witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>perceived it as being at least a couple hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>in the air. A likely explanation is a phenomenon called

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<v Speaker 1>the fata morgana, which is a particular kind of mirage

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that occurs just above the horizon. It is caused by

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<v Speaker 1>a temperature inversion when a layer of warm air sits

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<v Speaker 1>above a layer of cool air, resulting in the bending

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<v Speaker 1>of light rays. This kind of mirage will cause objects

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<v Speaker 1>to appear distorted, or possibly in this case, to appear

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<v Speaker 1>above the surface on which they are in fact resting. Thus,

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<v Speaker 1>a ship appears to hover above the sea rather than

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<v Speaker 1>rest in it, and a boat is hinted at. In

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Gill's description the men on top of the craft, he

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>describes one of the figures on the craft is standing

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>with his hands on the rail, looking over, just as

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<v Speaker 1>one will look over the rails of a ship. If

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<v Speaker 1>in fact this is the case, Gil and his companions

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>might have been observing a squid boat. Squid boats are

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<v Speaker 1>strung with lights that hang on beams off to the

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the ship to attract squid to the surface

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 1>where they can be caught. They also sometimes have antenna

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>poles that are illuminated by the ship's lights and can

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<v Speaker 1>look like what Gill called a pencil quick line reaching

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>towards the sky. Is this a certain identification, No, but

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Gill acknowledged that though we felt this was not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible that he and the others had seen

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a ship at sea. Absolutely all I can be sure

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>about as that I have in my mind what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to picture a squid boat moving away from

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Gil at incredible speeds, but that could be a product

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of the distorting effects of the Fadam morgana or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the squid boat shut off some of its lights so

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that it appeared to get smaller, which would have been

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>interpreted as it being further away. What's interesting to me

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is that Gill doesn't seem too concerned about convincing people

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>about what he saw here. He is from the movie.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>UFOs are here the Dao Diaries, people claiming to see

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>things such as I did the thirty eight of Us,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and we all believe that we saw it. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course we don't expect other people to believe us if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. And it strikes me that Gill

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't try to integrate the story into his religious beliefs

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>or philosophical outlook. He's simply see something and reports on it.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But this is often not the case. Many times, people

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>who experience a UFO encounter or simply believed that encounters happen,

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>either add UFOs to their existing beliefs and in the

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>process alter those beliefs, or they build a belief framework

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>around their belief in UFOs. This season, on Strange Arrivals,

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<v Speaker 1>the children came back from school and they had all

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<v Speaker 1>of these stories about this device that had crashed in

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<v Speaker 1>the school grounds. I actually in the trees. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the children feel that they did see something.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a big tape and street black eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>by these accounts are so vivid and so consistent and

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<v Speaker 1>so credible in the air and flow their cars. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the top of the stairs and there's this

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<v Speaker 1>little blue alien. It's as if the aliens come through

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<v Speaker 1>a screen. They shatter one reality, and I'm into this reality.

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<v Speaker 1>This was going to be like the revelation to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this great stuff, this great proof that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a creative intelligence at work here trying to

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<v Speaker 1>reach us, to create some kind of a connection. They

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<v Speaker 1>were transformed by the experience and in touch with spiritual epiphany.

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<v Speaker 1>People assaying that the aliens came toward us, something's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. There's something they're just going to happen to this,

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<v Speaker 1>he was deliberately implanting false memories and I lost my

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<v Speaker 1>ability to think critically strange arrivals. As a production of

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky, this episode

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<v Speaker 1>was written and hosted by Toby Ball and produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Rima l Kaali, Jesse Funk, and Naami Griffin, with executive

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<v Speaker 1>producers Alexander Williams, Matt Frederick and Aaron Mankey and supervising

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<v Speaker 1>producer Josh Thane, with voice acting by David Burton, Joshua

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<v Speaker 1>Longhurst and William Clapton. And special thanks to Wendy Connors,

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<v Speaker 1>creator of the Faded Discs archive of UFO related audio

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