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Speaker 1: Strange Arrivals is a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and

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Speaker 1: The second floor of the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence contains

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Speaker 1: three sets of apartments appointed with frescoes, tapestries, and artwork

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Speaker 1: dating back as far as the Renaissance. Among the group

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Speaker 1: of apartments known as the Apartments of the Elements is

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Speaker 1: the Hercules Room, and in the Hercules Room is a

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Speaker 1: circular portrait of the Madonna and Child and the Infant

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Speaker 1: Saint John, whose creation has been attributed to a number

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Speaker 1: of artists, including Filipino Lippi. It's about what you'd expect

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Speaker 1: from a Renaissance painting. With that title, Mary praised above

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Speaker 1: the Infant Jesus, who reaches out to her while being

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Speaker 1: held by the Infant Saint John. Strangely, though, an object

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Speaker 1: appears to hover in the air in the background above

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Speaker 1: Mary's shoulder. A closer look reveals a football shaped entity,

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Speaker 1: light gray on top, darker on the bottom, with yellow

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Speaker 1: spikes emerging like beams of light. In the background, A

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Speaker 1: robed man with a dog looks up at the object.

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Speaker 1: What is going on here? I was finishing a book

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Speaker 1: on the Catholic doctrine of purgatory, in which it was

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Speaker 1: a huge project. I went to archives all over and

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Speaker 1: what I was looking at is Catholics used to do

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Speaker 1: devotions to souls in purgatory and that all kind of stopped,

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Speaker 1: and they don't do those anymore, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: know why. I am Diana Pasolka, and I'm a professor

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Speaker 1: at the University of North Carolina and Wilmington, and my

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Speaker 1: field has been in Catholic history and Catholic traditions. I

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Speaker 1: found the reasons for that, and I wrote a book

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Speaker 1: about it. But I also found that Catholics had a

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Speaker 1: lot of experiences of aerial phenomena from basically a thousand

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Speaker 1: I've been to the Vatican Library and Secret Archive and

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Speaker 1: looked at a lot of the documents there. I found

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Speaker 1: that there were all of these aerial phenomena incidences, and

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Speaker 1: the frameworks for understanding those were basically religious. They see

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Speaker 1: something like a disk in the sky, and they'd call

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Speaker 1: it an angel, or they call it a demon, or

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Speaker 1: they call it a lost soul from burgatory. And at

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Speaker 1: this point it never occurred to me that these are

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Speaker 1: like kind of like UFOs, but they were. They were

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Speaker 1: unidentified objects that then were identified through Catholic frameworks. Normally,

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Speaker 1: when someone sees something that they can't explain, they try

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Speaker 1: to understand it according to their belief framework. A Renaissance

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Speaker 1: perceive it as a demon or angel. People now are

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Speaker 1: culturally ready to identify them UFOs visitors from space or

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Speaker 1: another dimension. But what happens when the belief in UFOs

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Speaker 1: becomes the framework that a person uses to interpret things

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Speaker 1: that happen in the world around them. That is what

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Speaker 1: happens when you look at strange things that occur in

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Speaker 1: people's lives and you interpret them with the assumption that

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Speaker 1: the cause is most likely UFOs. This season on Strange Arrivals,

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Speaker 1: we will look at people who are not only sure

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Speaker 1: that UFOs are from somewhere else, but if put UFOs

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Speaker 1: at the center of their worldviews, what happens when they

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Speaker 1: become involved in investigating hard to explain events. How does

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Speaker 1: their presence affect our perception of the event and even

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Speaker 1: the experiencers own understanding of what they've been through. But

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Speaker 1: to begin the season, we'll set a baseline by looking

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Speaker 1: at a case that didn't attract prominent UFO investigators and

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Speaker 1: see how the witnesses understood there counter. I'm Toby Ball

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Speaker 1: and this is Strange Arrivals, Episode one, Boyani. On July fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, an Anglican missionary named Father William Gill,

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Speaker 1: a letter to Father Norman Cruttwell, who was at the

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Speaker 1: Anglican mission in Manapi, also in Papua New Guinea. The

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Speaker 1: letter began, Dan, woman, here is a lot of material,

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Speaker 1: me who supplies it. I just choose at Dagura in

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Speaker 1: myself think my gray cells are okay. This was essentially

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Speaker 1: a cover letter for a collection of documents that Gil

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Speaker 1: a week that began when a distant light was cited,

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Speaker 1: where is Papua New Guinea. Papua New Guinea is the

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Speaker 1: eastern portion of the island, known as either Papua or

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Speaker 1: while Papua New Guinea is now an independent commonwealth. In

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, when these events occurred, it was overseen

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Speaker 1: Father Gil and Father Crutwell were two Australian missionaries at

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Speaker 1: The Gura, which Gil mentions in his letter, is the

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Speaker 1: headquarters of the Anglican diocese in this area. On June

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Speaker 1: twenty first, five days before the first Mass sighting, a

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Speaker 1: teacher evangelist named Stephen Moy, who was stationed at Boyani

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Speaker 1: along with Father Gill, saw light in the early hours

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Speaker 1: later in nineteen fifty nine in England recounting his conversation

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Speaker 1: Last Sunday night, I saw a rather sing also is no.

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Speaker 1: He wrote a report about this event for Gil. It

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Speaker 1: by an actor. I saw a bright white light silently

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Speaker 1: gradually decreased in brilliance until the shape of an inverted

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Speaker 1: Gil his first impression upon glimpsing the light at the

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Speaker 1: again talking about his questions to Moy after the sighting.

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Speaker 1: more kinds of questions about his size and shape. I

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Speaker 1: wanted naper sixth and what he lack of place? And

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Speaker 1: each time he came there he said, no, it was

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Speaker 1: before he had his first sighting at Boyani, Gill wrote

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Speaker 1: a letter to Reverend David Durry, the acting principle of

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Speaker 1: Saint Aidan's College in Dagura, an institution for training teacher

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Speaker 1: evangelists such as Stephen Moy. There are being quite a

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Speaker 1: number of reports over the months from reliable witnesses. The

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Speaker 1: peculiar thing about these most recent reports is that the

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Speaker 1: UFOs seem to be stationary Boyanni, or to travel from Boyanny.

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Speaker 1: I myself saw a stationary white light twice on the

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Speaker 1: same night on April ninth. I do not doubt the

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Speaker 1: existence of these things, but my simple mind still requires

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Speaker 1: I am inclined to believe that probably many UFOs are

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Speaker 1: more likely some form of electric phenomena, or perhaps something

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Speaker 1: broad about by the Aden bomb explosions, etc. Then, addressing

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Speaker 1: Moy's sighting four days prior, he wrote that Stephen should

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Speaker 1: actually make out a saucer could be the work of

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Speaker 1: some time he has seen illustrations of some kind in

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Speaker 1: a magazine. It is all too difficult to understand for me.

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Speaker 1: didn't question Moy's version of his sighting. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: Gil again wrote to Dry, but this time his attitude

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Speaker 1: towards the lights was entirely different. Dear David. Life is strange,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. Yesterday I wrote you a letter expressing opinions

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Speaker 1: are the UFOs? Now less than twenty four hours later

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Speaker 1: I have changed my views somewhat. Last night we are

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Speaker 1: Boyani experienced about four hours of UFO activity and there

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Speaker 1: is no doubt whatsoever that they are handled by beings

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Speaker 1: of some kind. At times it was absolutely breathtaking. Here

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Speaker 1: is the report. This time he signed off cheers, convinced

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Speaker 1: Bill what had happened to cause this change of heart.

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Speaker 1: Father Gill sent a report on the events of that

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Speaker 1: We heard the beginning of the cover letter earlier in

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Speaker 1: this episode. Father Gill had taken careful notes of what

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Speaker 1: he observed during the encounter. Again from his nineteen fifty

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Speaker 1: the newsletter of the prominent at the time Aerial phenomena

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Speaker 1: research organization based in the United States. The text of

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Speaker 1: this report reads, father Gill that just had his dinner

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Speaker 1: saw this sparkling object, which to me was peculiar because

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Speaker 1: it was above Venus, so that caused me to watch

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Speaker 1: Stephen remarks that it appeared to wax and wane in brightness,

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Speaker 1: as though it was approaching and receding. The object eventually

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Speaker 1: gil relating this sighting many years later in the strange

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven film UFOs Are Here the Dao Diaries.

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Speaker 1: There's just hovering, not very far high up maybe two

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Speaker 1: it was very high and almost directly overhead. By nine

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Speaker 1: might have been observing a squid boat. Squid boats are

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Speaker 1: a ship at sea. Absolutely all I can be sure

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Speaker 1: It's hard to picture a squid boat moving away from

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Speaker 1: is that Gill doesn't seem too concerned about convincing people

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Speaker 1: about what he saw here. He is from the movie.

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Speaker 1: UFOs are here the Dao Diaries, people claiming to see

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Speaker 1: things such as I did the thirty eight of Us,

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Speaker 1: and we all believe that we saw it. But of

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Speaker 1: course we don't expect other people to believe us if

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. And it strikes me that Gill

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Speaker 1: or philosophical outlook. He's simply see something and reports on it.

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Speaker 1: But this is often not the case. Many times, people

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Speaker 1: who experience a UFO encounter or simply believed that encounters happen,

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Speaker 1: process alter those beliefs, or they build a belief framework

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Speaker 1: around their belief in UFOs. This season, on Strange Arrivals,

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Speaker 1: the children came back from school and they had all

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Speaker 1: of these stories about this device that had crashed in

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Speaker 1: He had a big tape and street black eyes and

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Speaker 1: by these accounts are so vivid and so consistent and

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Speaker 1: looking at the top of the stairs and there's this

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Speaker 1: little blue alien. It's as if the aliens come through

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Speaker 1: a screen. They shatter one reality, and I'm into this reality.

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Speaker 1: This was going to be like the revelation to the world.

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Speaker 1: Look at this great stuff, this great proof that we have.

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Speaker 1: There is a creative intelligence at work here trying to

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Speaker 1: reach us, to create some kind of a connection. They

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Speaker 1: were transformed by the experience and in touch with spiritual epiphany.

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Speaker 1: People assaying that the aliens came toward us, something's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. There's something they're just going to happen to this,

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Speaker 1: he was deliberately implanting false memories and I lost my

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Speaker 1: ability to think critically strange arrivals. As a production of

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky, this episode

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Speaker 1: was written and hosted by Toby Ball and produced by

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Speaker 1: Rima l Kaali, Jesse Funk, and Naami Griffin, with executive

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Speaker 1: producers Alexander Williams, Matt Frederick and Aaron Mankey and supervising

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Speaker 1: producer Josh Thane, with voice acting by David Burton, Joshua

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Speaker 1: Longhurst and William Clapton. And special thanks to Wendy Connors,

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