WEBVTT - Conversations with Too Short 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.400 I don't know if who who always in on this ship, 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.840 but they they really real me in the game and 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.040 was like, Nigga, you're gonna be a real nigga because 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.360 the nigga. The nigga had his broad um. He went 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.240 away one night and the bitch was like walking around 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.720 with a robo but ass naked and ship and she 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.040 was just like um. She was like, man, short, you 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.840 know I've seen you looking at me. I like you fine, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.480 I'll be looking and she was like you want to fuck? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.520 And I'm like, so we had the house about ourself, right, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.680 I'm like, yeah, I want to fuck. She said, tell me, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.200 tell me something about Dean. Give me some dirt. I said, 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.919 every time you leave the best next door come over 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.479 here and they're going the room and kick it. And 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.800 she was like I knew it. She's like, all right, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.480 I'm get pussy. She went in the room. It never 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.880 came back out. The next day, he said, nigga, don't 0:00:51.880 --> 0:01:00.640 you ever let the bitches again. I ride a nigger 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.960 around like like bright, come on, man, we can never 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:09.800 do that. He's gonna have to figure yourself out. I 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:11.080 don't know if he's feel to be able to put 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.160 it back together. What Kanye did, Man, they go walk 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.840 out on the edge on the wild side, get off 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.399 into all that ship out there in the world. See 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.360 how fucking real the world is, and all the ship 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.280 that looked pretty and ugly and evil and good and 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.320 bad and ship and some some niggas. Man, that ship 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.640 is never come back. Just terrifying. Man, and the mother 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.400 fucker out there on the edge and click. The only 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.880 thing can bring him back was the fucking investors sucking 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.160 ship into something like like or something, some kind of 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.240 motherfucking therapeutic something that gets you back off that ledge. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.560 He went out there and seen that ship. He's seen 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.360 the real ship. The niggas, And how you at a party, Man, 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.000 you're thinking, like Nigga nig is right there as a 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.200 demon like and he go trying to tell us somebody. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.880 They're like he crazy, Like, no motherfucker out of the 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.800 party last night. I've seen that demon recording. Okay, look 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.880 you ready, I was stunning, right. This is one of 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.600 the first time in stunner to go to a war show. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.520 There's probably two thousand nine and go to a war show. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.079 He take me to the MTV Awards. I see Erica 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.480 Body for the first time, and I'm like, damn, this motherfucker. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.440 It's cold and personal. I'm owner, I said, you know, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.560 young ad laid nick sucked up in tality. I'm like, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:24.800 I'm gonna have her, like I finished your all sexuality. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.200 And it is like she just be floating because she 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.359 don't even be walking, because she was just floating past. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.639 I was like, off and to have her this is 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.000 I'm for to do this. This is this right here? 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.200 Is it like like rappers man feel me and I'm 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.160 a gangster too. That's gonna work out. So I'm looking, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.200 I said, bergman, I tapp him. I say, look, look 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.520 at her right there. He's like yeah, she called. I 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.040 was like, yeah, I'm gonna go get it. So I 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.000 get up to try to go shoot my shot. The 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.600 nigga grabbed me and snatched me down. And mind you, 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.640 this neggate the type of nigger that really to me 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.639 get too invested in most of the ship. He give 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.400 you game and all that. If you listen, it's cool. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.880 If you're not evenna, let you walk. But he grabbed me. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.600 He said, hey, man, don't do that. I said, why not? 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.919 Looking don't get it? And you think I can't get her. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.560 He said, no, man, she's on some ship. And I'm like, man, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.800 you're tripping. Let me get up. I'm thinking he's said, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.320 like I can't get her. He sat me down and 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.240 grabbed me. Snap me day, he said, nagy man, she's 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.919 like a witch or something, and she on some money. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.959 She will be saying that. People say that heard that. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.280 So I looked at him, right, I'm like, man, you trip, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.440 you trip. I look back and look at his face 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.840 and all I thought is this Nick from New Orleans. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.880 So I'm like, you know what, let me just chill 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.280 because it's the reason he's saying this ship. I never 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.680 got that here. Yeah, that body wasn't man, get that 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.480 bod isn't on you start wearing show the path many 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.360 years ago? Was that about seven five seven. You'll be 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:53.600 sitting there right now with this on something. I put 0:03:53.760 --> 0:04:00.320 his legend there legendary and ain't really hurt. Nobody's on 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.080 it firsthand. But it's just that would be just a 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.600 podcast right before you. Yeah, I was thinking about the 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.240 right comment, Like I remember the videos changed for comment 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.040 and did different people then, And I'm like, whatever that is, 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.560 I need to know. It's definitely some magic in that 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.000 in there. Man, it's definitely something magical about it. I 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.880 did not then. I just I'm just basing that on 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.680 the on the facts. Sure, yes, obviously you look at people, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:33.760 so all the facts. So conversations hold up, no sellings. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.880 G L my boy, Peter, feel me, y'all know art 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.240 all that what Mama was short man, The ultimate Player, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.920 the player before I even understood what plan was about, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.040 feel me, when I just was listening to the records 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.200 and I was like, Man, this nigga is talking some 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:58.719 crazy ship whatever pop The Player of Players. That's an album, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.560 that's concept, The Player of all Players. I'm trying to 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.200 tell you, come on, that's a great point. I like 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.080 that anyway. What's up man? You hear that line in 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.119 the old two short song. It's been said the Player 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.760 of all players? Said, Man, hey man. The first time 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.640 they ever got me in the studio and said, uh, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.800 you don't make an album? What you wanna name that album? 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.960 I really couldn't. I didn't have no slick ass title 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.359 on deck, So I just was like, ship name it. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.159 Don't stop rapping. That was my That was my theme 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.240 from day one when you grabbed the mic, don't stop rapping. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:42.560 Like like fucking a hunted bars whatever, just go fun 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.280 the hook. Just don't stop rapping and then wrap a 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:50.320 lot and fucking never stopped making songs. And I've been 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.720 doing this man, rap rap ship is It's world renowned 0:05:54.760 --> 0:06:00.280 and the motherfucker's didn't ask you about the rap ship? Yeah? Yeah, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.360 the player ship. How do like I get it because 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.680 I'd have been up top right, I'd have been in 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.279 Northern feel the rap. That's what made the rap. It's 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.520 just the player ship, that's what made the rap. I 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:15.320 was I was walking down the street with my radio. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.359 I was flowing at the time, you know, doing like 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.720 Little Ryan's rhymes, just to go like um like, I 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.360 was like mimicking what I heard out of New York. 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.599 So we're like, you're the girl in the red. I 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.320 heard what you said. You know that it was lame 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.560 as fun, but it was like it was rhyming and 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.720 it was novelty and people could see you doing it. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.960 Was like he's rhyming. But then I was walking down 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.800 the street with my radio and the message came on 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.240 the first time I ever heard it, and he was 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.760 like broken class everywhere people pisting on the stage, not 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.360 like that ship and it gave me a visual. I 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.560 was like, that was my first time that a rap 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.159 song made me see something. It's crazy. I had a 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.640 conversation with Eric B and the other my other partment 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.039 from New York, and I told him I could tell 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.360 when y'all came about the message meant more to Yard 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:07.280 than anything else because your ship iced t ship in 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.600 w a easy then ship to tell your story. He 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.840 was like, like, everybody got that light. I got that light. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.640 I was like, fuck, I'm sitting there rapping this ship. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.200 I'm about to start rapping about Oakland like it was 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.480 that easy and ship and that's the formula right now, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.000 That's where that's where the game comes from. It wasn't 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.120 like I was sitting there at that moment in time 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.640 in my life going damn, I got so much game. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.640 I need to just start rapping by game. That was 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.960 really like this is how you know. I was like, oh, ship, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.880 I'm right, I'm in the motherfucking movie called Oakland. I'm 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.040 in it and all the game is just all around me, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.160 and I'm like, all I gotta do is rap about 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.480 Oakland like they wrapped about in New York. And I 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.920 just that's what started now Pete think he's what Pete 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.000 is a player, But I think he's a player because 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.840 he got hurt before. No, no, no, I'm a retired player. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.840 I'm not a player no more. What's the definition of 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.320 a player? I don't know what depends? And I guess 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.600 who you're asking? How you asking? All I know is this, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.560 and I what you were saying. A second ago. I 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.360 couldn't buy an ouncer game with cold hard cash before 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.200 I moved to Oakland. Yeah, he lived up. I lived there. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.800 I lived on MacArthur back in the day, and it's 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.880 like oh four so like right when like the side 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.320 showing was going on, all that kind of ship. By 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.920 the time I left out of there, I couldn't tell 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 me ship. I had a reputation within the within the city. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.160 It was great. You know what that might be? Why 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.960 you hard on the motherfucking woman like that though your 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.480 time and debay, because the thing about the West, the 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.800 whole West, is they don't play a by women. They're 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.840 hard on women. If you, if you, if you thank 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.280 you just something, you better be what you say you 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.360 is because the whole West is hard on the woman. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.680 But I definitely agree. Northern California it's a different vibe 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.200 that ain't gonna play. It's training, man, it's training, and 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.520 it's not it's really it doesn't have anything to do 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.680 with how you get out of female. That's not what 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.920 the training is. People interpreted different ways. So when you 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.679 when you receive the game, you've got a lot of 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.400 choices on how you put it back out there. But 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.600 it's really about just not being a sucker this period, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.240 point blank and all your situations. Don't walk into the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.520 room and be the sucker. Don't be the weekending it. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.840 Don't be then it is getting used. Don't don't you know, 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.960 don't be manipulated, be the manipulator. So if you're not 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.120 gonna be manipulated, the best way to do it probably 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.240 is to learn how to be a manipulator. And then 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.480 you then it's like it's like it's like being a 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.319 con man, but you don't necessarily have to run cons 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.840 on people. But being a con man, you ain't gonna get, 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.280 you know, all the angles. So it's all about like 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.679 trying to learn the angles. Man. Like I see how 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.640 she coming at me. I'm not gonna spent the same 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.199 game every time at a female, but I see how 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.920 she coming at me, So let me go to uh 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.080 foul number one on one dash two three and run 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.720 that game on her, you know what I'm saying, or 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.040 deal with her like that. And it's like every situation 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.400 you're supposed to be, you know, be able to think 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.840 on the fly. Every situation is a different situation, and 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.760 player is something that you choose to be. There's a 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.400 lot of games that motherfucker's that don't want to be 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.600 a player. They found something good that they wanted like this. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.880 You know, I feel like I feel like a pimp 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.680 who never had the pimp. So instead of pimping hose, 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.000 I decided to just be a player. I'm gonna use 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.559 my game that way. So a lot of females come 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:28.560 into my area and come and get close to me, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.240 and it might be thinking they're dealing with like you know, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.080 some square level type of ship or some player type ship, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.120 and I'm really like mentally like leveling up on her 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.280 like a pimp game. I mean, this had to be 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.280 an eighties, ain't nobody, ain't nobody, nobody couldn't have tried 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.360 to run the game. When you pass ninety, nigga, your 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.559 player was world right now by that you gotta a 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.200 but you gotta get slicked. You gotta get slicked in 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:59.360 the game, but you have to women were still trying 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.200 you pass nineties. One of them thought it was an 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.000 act and they would roll up like thinking, all this 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.760 this ain't really what it is. Well, you know chicks 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.079 to this day, I mean, they never they get they 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.760 pull up, they pull up, and uh they just kind 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.080 of like go fishing. Man, Like you know, like we've 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.440 been living a universe of no consequences. We know this. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.199 They give me an open door. Do you want to 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.920 be a sucker? Like they like they try to get 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.040 you to be a sucker? Still, man, I didn't. I 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.880 didn't have rocket taste. So he was like about this 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.600 ship endlessly. One of my one of my favorite days 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.840 was we was We was. We had the whole little 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.280 mob with us. We out of town at a All 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.640 Star basketball and like Denver or some ship somewhere, and 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.920 this chick pull up on me, like with the with 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.560 the whole vibe. She getting at me like she wants 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.800 me to be on the pimp vibe. She talking like 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.679 a real hole, you know, and just a couple of 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.960 little exchanges and I say, I'm like, I'm in real 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.840 mode at the moment right we get the oh start, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.480 we're kicking, and I'm like, baby, look I ain't know pimp. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.840 I'd be wrapped, you know what I mean. You know 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.839 it's not good. I just like she turned around and 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:07.120 told something. She was like, baby, this two shot said 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.920 you don't got no house. And then she's like, that's 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.160 my nigger right there. He's a real pimp. That she 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.280 started getting like real like like about to go there, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.640 and I wrote up on Homie. She was still still talking, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.960 and I rolled up on Homie. I said, man, you 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.120 might want to make her stop talking bro like, like 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.560 not with a whole bunch of like you might, because 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.760 niggas is gonna either beat her up or him up 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.560 with it. It was gonna happen so fun all the raps. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.640 He shut his bitch up. Who was the coldest player? 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.200 You remember coming up from up top? It was a 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.840 lot of real ones like, but it's always that one 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.079 that that got you with you like that nigga is 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.360 a real This is the And then you know rumors 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.520 about ship like before me, like people like the War 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.320 Brothers and Ship that the movie that Mac that was 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.360 in the movie and the movie was like personally about 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.679 them and ship. Um, his names were legendary names, like 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.120 you know, like I used to hang out with the 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.280 saying these dudes that Keith and keV and their daddy 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.680 was Roosevelt Taylor, and Roosevelt Taylor. He gotta he gotta 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.439 shout out in the in the mac you know, they 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.280 they put some real pimps in that movie, like some 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.360 real Oakland pimps. But in the streets he was just 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.240 one of them, you know, long line, a long line 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:24.760 of names of real ones. And then he became a 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.000 preacher and that you know, I'm still I'm sitting here 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.840 looking at the game, and I know how how real 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.839 it is. But it's like I don't want to talk 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.640 down on the man and them. But to me, even 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.880 in him being a preacher, I still seen the pimp. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.760 I've seen it, like he was still like one of 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.440 my heroes. But when I was coming up, not the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.080 legendary dude before me. It was it was I went 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.640 to high school. Frank de Bank. Frank de Bank came 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:54.000 to school every day dressed like a fucking pimp. Dressed 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.800 like a pimp every day to high school. One of 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.600 his homes went to school with him. She came to 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.400 school high school then high school. Yeah, she came to school. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.680 Nigga was a pimp in high school with holes in 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.840 high school and they was going to class. They wouldn't 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.920 even like being on campus, being like like no, he 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.280 just though he looked it whether he had his hat 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.000 on or suited with a bunch of jurry on wherever. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.520 Every fucking day. His name was Frank the bank. They 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.720 had a perm su perm down to his shoulders. That's 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:28.120 like kid the look man and everything is like styl 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.640 and shift. Frank would have the bitch that didn't go 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.600 to school. She was an older bitch. She would drop 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.840 him off at school. So you know, we out there 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.720 in the morning hanging out before we going to school 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.040 and this nick get dropped off. It's two or three 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.120 holes in the car. He jumped out with the one 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.480 little hole and they going to school to class and 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.800 then after school probably lunchtime to the fucking um, the 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.200 fucking hole come pick him up in the car, top down, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.280 like to me, like going from down here and up there, 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.480 like everything down in l a Iss ganged for everybody. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.000 If they're not a gang banger, their cousin the gang 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.560 back an uncle game banger. It seemed like the same thing. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.720 But for pimping in Oakland, everybody kind of half ass 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.200 fancy himself a pimp or player, or the uncle, a 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.920 pamper or whatever else. Even if you're a gangster, you 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.480 still like you might feel like having a pimp persona. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.040 It's just it's just embedded in the coaches. Have you 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.640 ever been down like International when it's really lit, when 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.400 there's a couple of hundred women that that's insane to me. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.680 I never seen anything like that. Any city back in 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.800 the day used to be more like Sam Pablo. It 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.200 was always a lot of a lot of little little 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.040 places where the host rows and ship. But SAP was 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.160 kind of burnt out of My favorite one, my favorite 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.960 one was San Pablo. That was like a fashion show 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.760 down there. It was that was big time. You ever 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.080 you ever heard anything Aboudy Franka went out to the Midwest, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.400 and you know, he survived the game even he's been 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:56.680 around kept the time. I actually a picture of Frankie's 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.840 on the wall in the building. Actually on the picture 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.000 that's tastic on the picture over there with all the pimps. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.880 He needs to be uh, he needs to be immortalized, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.560 and then um, you know we have dudes like a 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.880 Gangster Brown. Gangster Brown was he was one of my 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.520 immediate heroes because Gangster Brown used to drive a brown 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.760 limousine Cadillac, and he was driving it and in the 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.840 back here rolling windows down while he come rolling through, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.960 and it was just full of holes. Three photos in 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:35.640 the back. This ship don't even seem real. I never 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.240 I gotta watch the Mac, man, I gotta watch the Mac. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.720 I ain't laugh. But then let me tell you how 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.360 the ship evolves though, man, because you know, before us 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.800 it was real pimping like the Mac, the Cadillac with 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.160 all the ship and the fucking fucking uh clothes and 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.120 the matching and you know what I'm saying that it 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.320 was that's late seventies pushed into the early eighties. Then 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.400 it started, uh kind of I ain't gonna say, changing 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.920 a lot. But the biggest blow to the pimp image 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.560 was crack. When the crackhead you got, you know, if 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.199 the dope deal it get on his own product can 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.760 go down, He's just be like, oh he smoked out. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.840 But then as as a few pimps that got you know, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.200 the whole little look you know when let's say you're 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.600 a clean ass pimp and then you get hooked on 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.359 cracked and eventually you're gonna ride that car to the 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.160 only got three rims and it's like, you know, it's 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.479 fucked up and got it dead. Then your clothes get 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.359 a little shabby, and then somewhere down the line, we 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.439 started having an image of pimps looking like that, and 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.280 we forgot the magic of what these motherfucker's that did 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.080 for hundreds of years, if you like to say, late seventies, 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.960 pre crack and the track with pretty much people I 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.800 would assume I'm before my time, like a fashion show, yeah, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.840 but it would be populated by like professional holes who 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.760 had pimps. Pretty yeah, you start getting I don't want 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.880 to say, kind of holes who just strung I gotta 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:00.520 go sell some pussy to get it it real quick, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.600 polluting the track. I would imagine that's how I grew up. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.919 That's what happened after, Like I grew up seeing pimping 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.200 a hole in that way, Like I didn't even see holes. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.720 I only see strawberries. So then okay, so if you 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.600 got if you got a certain integrity about what you do, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.080 and you see this drug flood, the the turf, the 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.879 track and ship and ship and sucking. Uh, it's just 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.840 making this ship look bad. And that whole little like 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.120 I just got the image of when it was like, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.720 it's like your dick twentys and it just you know, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.919 crack head hole, crack head holl. You know, it's just 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.480 like but the glamor went out of it. But then 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.360 it never went away because you sit there and talk 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.760 about um like you you say, she's a hoe, but 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.040 she's a call girl, and he like the call girl, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.760 you expect her to kind of like carry herself a 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.680 little different call girl. She could walk into a hotel 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.400 and walk up to a hotel rooms, walk to her kneed, 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.719 walk back getting her car and go as well as 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.359 she could do be a call girl and go doing 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.000 a house call or something. But you see a whole 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.760 as a bit you get picked up into a car 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.800 on the street corner for chump chains and do to 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.320 do in the car or something, Gonna go do it 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.920 in the cheap motail something. But the other side of it, 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.000 so you say, what does the car girl make? Oh, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.040 every time she's go on the call, she's gonna make 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.000 a five hunter. The better. So that's so call girls 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.040 is the whole prostitutes the real ones. No, that's just 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.399 it's just a different level of different levels selling. It's selling, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.000 rocks are selling answers are selling kilos. What level you want? 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:44.600 So fucking um the car girl is. Now you know this, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.439 this turns into from from that whole crackhead ship. It 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.400 turns into where you want to be. You don't want 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.520 to be on the street, you know bits get on 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.000 and get my money. You don't want to be that 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.800 guy that's like fucking little little kid games and ship. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.920 That's some ship like like the it was like they 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.080 wasn't even in that world. You're sitting there stuck on 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.000 crackhead holes and all that thing is over here looking 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.240 like then you might play for a sports team or 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.719 the nigga might be a rapper, or you be like 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.520 who this little baller as motherfuck is and got three 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.600 or four and they're knocking down, you know, twenty a 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:27.800 month each and it's coming daily gobs of cash and 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.159 you're sitting there making fun of these pimps and not 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.840 even knowing the whole time. The game moved on and 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.840 the game kept going, and it was like it was 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.800