Speaker 1: I don't know if who who always in on this ship,
Speaker 1: but they they really real me in the game and
Speaker 1: was like, Nigga, you're gonna be a real nigga because
Speaker 1: the nigga. The nigga had his broad um. He went
Speaker 1: away one night and the bitch was like walking around
Speaker 1: with a robo but ass naked and ship and she
Speaker 1: was just like um. She was like, man, short, you
Speaker 1: know I've seen you looking at me. I like you fine,
Speaker 1: I'll be looking and she was like you want to fuck?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so we had the house about ourself, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I want to fuck. She said, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me something about Dean. Give me some dirt. I said,
Speaker 1: every time you leave the best next door come over
Speaker 1: here and they're going the room and kick it. And
Speaker 1: she was like I knew it. She's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm get pussy. She went in the room. It never
Speaker 1: came back out. The next day, he said, nigga, don't
Speaker 1: you ever let the bitches again. I ride a nigger
Speaker 1: around like like bright, come on, man, we can never
Speaker 1: do that. He's gonna have to figure yourself out. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's feel to be able to put
Speaker 1: it back together. What Kanye did, Man, they go walk
Speaker 1: out on the edge on the wild side, get off
Speaker 1: into all that ship out there in the world. See
Speaker 1: how fucking real the world is, and all the ship
Speaker 1: that looked pretty and ugly and evil and good and
Speaker 1: bad and ship and some some niggas. Man, that ship
Speaker 1: is never come back. Just terrifying. Man, and the mother
Speaker 1: fucker out there on the edge and click. The only
Speaker 1: thing can bring him back was the fucking investors sucking
Speaker 1: ship into something like like or something, some kind of
Speaker 1: motherfucking therapeutic something that gets you back off that ledge.
Speaker 1: He went out there and seen that ship. He's seen
Speaker 1: the real ship. The niggas, And how you at a party, Man,
Speaker 1: you're thinking, like Nigga nig is right there as a
Speaker 1: demon like and he go trying to tell us somebody.
Speaker 1: They're like he crazy, Like, no motherfucker out of the
Speaker 1: party last night. I've seen that demon recording. Okay, look
Speaker 1: you ready, I was stunning, right. This is one of
Speaker 1: the first time in stunner to go to a war show.
Speaker 1: There's probably two thousand nine and go to a war show.
Speaker 1: He take me to the MTV Awards. I see Erica
Speaker 1: Body for the first time, and I'm like, damn, this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It's cold and personal. I'm owner, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: young ad laid nick sucked up in tality. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have her, like I finished your all sexuality.
Speaker 1: And it is like she just be floating because she
Speaker 1: don't even be walking, because she was just floating past.
Speaker 1: I was like, off and to have her this is
Speaker 1: I'm for to do this. This is this right here?
Speaker 1: Is it like like rappers man feel me and I'm
Speaker 1: a gangster too. That's gonna work out. So I'm looking,
Speaker 1: I said, bergman, I tapp him. I say, look, look
Speaker 1: at her right there. He's like yeah, she called. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm gonna go get it. So I
Speaker 1: get up to try to go shoot my shot. The
Speaker 1: nigga grabbed me and snatched me down. And mind you,
Speaker 1: this neggate the type of nigger that really to me
Speaker 1: get too invested in most of the ship. He give
Speaker 1: you game and all that. If you listen, it's cool.
Speaker 1: If you're not evenna, let you walk. But he grabbed me.
Speaker 1: He said, hey, man, don't do that. I said, why not?
Speaker 1: Looking don't get it? And you think I can't get her.
Speaker 1: He said, no, man, she's on some ship. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you're tripping. Let me get up. I'm thinking he's said,
Speaker 1: like I can't get her. He sat me down and
Speaker 1: grabbed me. Snap me day, he said, nagy man, she's
Speaker 1: like a witch or something, and she on some money.
Speaker 1: She will be saying that. People say that heard that.
Speaker 1: So I looked at him, right, I'm like, man, you trip,
Speaker 1: you trip. I look back and look at his face
Speaker 1: and all I thought is this Nick from New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what, let me just chill
Speaker 1: because it's the reason he's saying this ship. I never
Speaker 1: got that here. Yeah, that body wasn't man, get that
Speaker 1: bod isn't on you start wearing show the path many
Speaker 1: years ago? Was that about seven five seven. You'll be
Speaker 1: sitting there right now with this on something. I put
Speaker 1: his legend there legendary and ain't really hurt. Nobody's on
Speaker 1: it firsthand. But it's just that would be just a
Speaker 1: podcast right before you. Yeah, I was thinking about the
Speaker 1: right comment, Like I remember the videos changed for comment
Speaker 1: and did different people then, And I'm like, whatever that is,
Speaker 1: I need to know. It's definitely some magic in that
Speaker 1: in there. Man, it's definitely something magical about it. I
Speaker 1: did not then. I just I'm just basing that on
Speaker 1: the on the facts. Sure, yes, obviously you look at people,
Speaker 1: so all the facts. So conversations hold up, no sellings.
Speaker 1: G L my boy, Peter, feel me, y'all know art
Speaker 1: all that what Mama was short man, The ultimate Player,
Speaker 1: the player before I even understood what plan was about,
Speaker 1: feel me, when I just was listening to the records
Speaker 1: and I was like, Man, this nigga is talking some
Speaker 1: crazy ship whatever pop The Player of Players. That's an album,
Speaker 1: that's concept, The Player of all Players. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you, come on, that's a great point. I like
Speaker 1: that anyway. What's up man? You hear that line in
Speaker 1: the old two short song. It's been said the Player
Speaker 1: of all players? Said, Man, hey man. The first time
Speaker 1: they ever got me in the studio and said, uh,
Speaker 1: you don't make an album? What you wanna name that album?
Speaker 1: I really couldn't. I didn't have no slick ass title
Speaker 1: on deck, So I just was like, ship name it.
Speaker 1: Don't stop rapping. That was my That was my theme
Speaker 1: from day one when you grabbed the mic, don't stop rapping.
Speaker 1: Like like fucking a hunted bars whatever, just go fun
Speaker 1: the hook. Just don't stop rapping and then wrap a
Speaker 1: lot and fucking never stopped making songs. And I've been
Speaker 1: doing this man, rap rap ship is It's world renowned
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker's didn't ask you about the rap ship? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the player ship. How do like I get it because
Speaker 1: I'd have been up top right, I'd have been in
Speaker 1: Northern feel the rap. That's what made the rap. It's
Speaker 1: just the player ship, that's what made the rap. I
Speaker 1: was I was walking down the street with my radio.
Speaker 1: I was flowing at the time, you know, doing like
Speaker 1: Little Ryan's rhymes, just to go like um like, I
Speaker 1: was like mimicking what I heard out of New York.
Speaker 1: So we're like, you're the girl in the red. I
Speaker 1: heard what you said. You know that it was lame
Speaker 1: as fun, but it was like it was rhyming and
Speaker 1: it was novelty and people could see you doing it.
Speaker 1: Was like he's rhyming. But then I was walking down
Speaker 1: the street with my radio and the message came on
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard it, and he was
Speaker 1: like broken class everywhere people pisting on the stage, not
Speaker 1: like that ship and it gave me a visual. I
Speaker 1: was like, that was my first time that a rap
Speaker 1: song made me see something. It's crazy. I had a
Speaker 1: conversation with Eric B and the other my other partment
Speaker 1: from New York, and I told him I could tell
Speaker 1: when y'all came about the message meant more to Yard
Speaker 1: than anything else because your ship iced t ship in
Speaker 1: w a easy then ship to tell your story. He
Speaker 1: was like, like, everybody got that light. I got that light.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, I'm sitting there rapping this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm about to start rapping about Oakland like it was
Speaker 1: that easy and ship and that's the formula right now,
Speaker 1: That's where that's where the game comes from. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like I was sitting there at that moment in time
Speaker 1: in my life going damn, I got so much game.
Speaker 1: I need to just start rapping by game. That was
Speaker 1: really like this is how you know. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm in the motherfucking movie called Oakland. I'm
Speaker 1: in it and all the game is just all around me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all I gotta do is rap about
Speaker 1: Oakland like they wrapped about in New York. And I
Speaker 1: just that's what started now Pete think he's what Pete
Speaker 1: is a player, But I think he's a player because
Speaker 1: he got hurt before. No, no, no, I'm a retired player.
Speaker 1: I'm not a player no more. What's the definition of
Speaker 1: a player? I don't know what depends? And I guess
Speaker 1: who you're asking? How you asking? All I know is this,
Speaker 1: and I what you were saying. A second ago. I
Speaker 1: couldn't buy an ouncer game with cold hard cash before
Speaker 1: I moved to Oakland. Yeah, he lived up. I lived there.
Speaker 1: I lived on MacArthur back in the day, and it's
Speaker 1: like oh four so like right when like the side
Speaker 1: showing was going on, all that kind of ship. By
Speaker 1: the time I left out of there, I couldn't tell
Speaker 1: me ship. I had a reputation within the within the city.
Speaker 1: It was great. You know what that might be? Why
Speaker 1: you hard on the motherfucking woman like that though your
Speaker 1: time and debay, because the thing about the West, the
Speaker 1: whole West, is they don't play a by women. They're
Speaker 1: hard on women. If you, if you, if you thank
Speaker 1: you just something, you better be what you say you
Speaker 1: is because the whole West is hard on the woman.
Speaker 1: But I definitely agree. Northern California it's a different vibe
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna play. It's training, man, it's training, and
Speaker 1: it's not it's really it doesn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with how you get out of female. That's not what
Speaker 1: the training is. People interpreted different ways. So when you
Speaker 1: when you receive the game, you've got a lot of
Speaker 1: choices on how you put it back out there. But
Speaker 1: it's really about just not being a sucker this period,
Speaker 1: point blank and all your situations. Don't walk into the
Speaker 1: room and be the sucker. Don't be the weekending it.
Speaker 1: Don't be then it is getting used. Don't don't you know,
Speaker 1: don't be manipulated, be the manipulator. So if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be manipulated, the best way to do it probably
Speaker 1: is to learn how to be a manipulator. And then
Speaker 1: you then it's like it's like it's like being a
Speaker 1: con man, but you don't necessarily have to run cons
Speaker 1: on people. But being a con man, you ain't gonna get,
Speaker 1: you know, all the angles. So it's all about like
Speaker 1: trying to learn the angles. Man. Like I see how
Speaker 1: she coming at me. I'm not gonna spent the same
Speaker 1: game every time at a female, but I see how
Speaker 1: she coming at me, So let me go to uh
Speaker 1: foul number one on one dash two three and run
Speaker 1: that game on her, you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 1: deal with her like that. And it's like every situation
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, you know, be able to think
Speaker 1: on the fly. Every situation is a different situation, and
Speaker 1: player is something that you choose to be. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of games that motherfucker's that don't want to be
Speaker 1: a player. They found something good that they wanted like this.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I feel like a pimp
Speaker 1: who never had the pimp. So instead of pimping hose,
Speaker 1: I decided to just be a player. I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: my game that way. So a lot of females come
Speaker 1: into my area and come and get close to me,
Speaker 1: and it might be thinking they're dealing with like you know,
Speaker 1: some square level type of ship or some player type ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm really like mentally like leveling up on her
Speaker 1: like a pimp game. I mean, this had to be
Speaker 1: an eighties, ain't nobody, ain't nobody, nobody couldn't have tried
Speaker 1: to run the game. When you pass ninety, nigga, your
Speaker 1: player was world right now by that you gotta a
Speaker 1: but you gotta get slicked. You gotta get slicked in
Speaker 1: the game, but you have to women were still trying
Speaker 1: you pass nineties. One of them thought it was an
Speaker 1: act and they would roll up like thinking, all this
Speaker 1: this ain't really what it is. Well, you know chicks
Speaker 1: to this day, I mean, they never they get they
Speaker 1: pull up, they pull up, and uh they just kind
Speaker 1: of like go fishing. Man, Like you know, like we've
Speaker 1: been living a universe of no consequences. We know this.
Speaker 1: They give me an open door. Do you want to
Speaker 1: be a sucker? Like they like they try to get
Speaker 1: you to be a sucker? Still, man, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't have rocket taste. So he was like about this
Speaker 1: ship endlessly. One of my one of my favorite days
Speaker 1: was we was We was. We had the whole little
Speaker 1: mob with us. We out of town at a All
Speaker 1: Star basketball and like Denver or some ship somewhere, and
Speaker 1: this chick pull up on me, like with the with
Speaker 1: the whole vibe. She getting at me like she wants
Speaker 1: me to be on the pimp vibe. She talking like
Speaker 1: a real hole, you know, and just a couple of
Speaker 1: little exchanges and I say, I'm like, I'm in real
Speaker 1: mode at the moment right we get the oh start,
Speaker 1: we're kicking, and I'm like, baby, look I ain't know pimp.
Speaker 1: I'd be wrapped, you know what I mean. You know
Speaker 1: it's not good. I just like she turned around and
Speaker 1: told something. She was like, baby, this two shot said
Speaker 1: you don't got no house. And then she's like, that's
Speaker 1: my nigger right there. He's a real pimp. That she
Speaker 1: started getting like real like like about to go there,
Speaker 1: and I wrote up on Homie. She was still still talking,
Speaker 1: and I rolled up on Homie. I said, man, you
Speaker 1: might want to make her stop talking bro like, like
Speaker 1: not with a whole bunch of like you might, because
Speaker 1: niggas is gonna either beat her up or him up
Speaker 1: with it. It was gonna happen so fun all the raps.
Speaker 1: He shut his bitch up. Who was the coldest player?
Speaker 1: You remember coming up from up top? It was a
Speaker 1: lot of real ones like, but it's always that one
Speaker 1: that that got you with you like that nigga is
Speaker 1: a real This is the And then you know rumors
Speaker 1: about ship like before me, like people like the War
Speaker 1: Brothers and Ship that the movie that Mac that was
Speaker 1: in the movie and the movie was like personally about
Speaker 1: them and ship. Um, his names were legendary names, like
Speaker 1: you know, like I used to hang out with the
Speaker 1: saying these dudes that Keith and keV and their daddy
Speaker 1: was Roosevelt Taylor, and Roosevelt Taylor. He gotta he gotta
Speaker 1: shout out in the in the mac you know, they
Speaker 1: they put some real pimps in that movie, like some
Speaker 1: real Oakland pimps. But in the streets he was just
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, long line, a long line
Speaker 1: of names of real ones. And then he became a
Speaker 1: preacher and that you know, I'm still I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: looking at the game, and I know how how real
Speaker 1: it is. But it's like I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: down on the man and them. But to me, even
Speaker 1: in him being a preacher, I still seen the pimp.
Speaker 1: I've seen it, like he was still like one of
Speaker 1: my heroes. But when I was coming up, not the
Speaker 1: legendary dude before me. It was it was I went
Speaker 1: to high school. Frank de Bank. Frank de Bank came
Speaker 1: to school every day dressed like a fucking pimp. Dressed
Speaker 1: like a pimp every day to high school. One of
Speaker 1: his homes went to school with him. She came to
Speaker 1: school high school then high school. Yeah, she came to school.
Speaker 1: Nigga was a pimp in high school with holes in
Speaker 1: high school and they was going to class. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: even like being on campus, being like like no, he
Speaker 1: just though he looked it whether he had his hat
Speaker 1: on or suited with a bunch of jurry on wherever.
Speaker 1: Every fucking day. His name was Frank the bank. They
Speaker 1: had a perm su perm down to his shoulders. That's
Speaker 1: like kid the look man and everything is like styl
Speaker 1: and shift. Frank would have the bitch that didn't go
Speaker 1: to school. She was an older bitch. She would drop
Speaker 1: him off at school. So you know, we out there
Speaker 1: in the morning hanging out before we going to school
Speaker 1: and this nick get dropped off. It's two or three
Speaker 1: holes in the car. He jumped out with the one
Speaker 1: little hole and they going to school to class and
Speaker 1: then after school probably lunchtime to the fucking um, the
Speaker 1: fucking hole come pick him up in the car, top down,
Speaker 1: like to me, like going from down here and up there,
Speaker 1: like everything down in l a Iss ganged for everybody.
Speaker 1: If they're not a gang banger, their cousin the gang
Speaker 1: back an uncle game banger. It seemed like the same thing.
Speaker 1: But for pimping in Oakland, everybody kind of half ass
Speaker 1: fancy himself a pimp or player, or the uncle, a
Speaker 1: pamper or whatever else. Even if you're a gangster, you
Speaker 1: still like you might feel like having a pimp persona.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just embedded in the coaches. Have you
Speaker 1: ever been down like International when it's really lit, when
Speaker 1: there's a couple of hundred women that that's insane to me.
Speaker 1: I never seen anything like that. Any city back in
Speaker 1: the day used to be more like Sam Pablo. It
Speaker 1: was always a lot of a lot of little little
Speaker 1: places where the host rows and ship. But SAP was
Speaker 1: kind of burnt out of My favorite one, my favorite
Speaker 1: one was San Pablo. That was like a fashion show
Speaker 1: down there. It was that was big time. You ever
Speaker 1: you ever heard anything Aboudy Franka went out to the Midwest,
Speaker 1: and you know, he survived the game even he's been
Speaker 1: around kept the time. I actually a picture of Frankie's
Speaker 1: on the wall in the building. Actually on the picture
Speaker 1: that's tastic on the picture over there with all the pimps.
Speaker 1: He needs to be uh, he needs to be immortalized,
Speaker 1: and then um, you know we have dudes like a
Speaker 1: Gangster Brown. Gangster Brown was he was one of my
Speaker 1: immediate heroes because Gangster Brown used to drive a brown
Speaker 1: limousine Cadillac, and he was driving it and in the
Speaker 1: back here rolling windows down while he come rolling through,
Speaker 1: and it was just full of holes. Three photos in
Speaker 1: the back. This ship don't even seem real. I never
Speaker 1: I gotta watch the Mac, man, I gotta watch the Mac.
Speaker 1: I ain't laugh. But then let me tell you how
Speaker 1: the ship evolves though, man, because you know, before us
Speaker 1: it was real pimping like the Mac, the Cadillac with
Speaker 1: all the ship and the fucking fucking uh clothes and
Speaker 1: the matching and you know what I'm saying that it
Speaker 1: was that's late seventies pushed into the early eighties. Then
Speaker 1: it started, uh kind of I ain't gonna say, changing
Speaker 1: a lot. But the biggest blow to the pimp image
Speaker 1: was crack. When the crackhead you got, you know, if
Speaker 1: the dope deal it get on his own product can
Speaker 1: go down, He's just be like, oh he smoked out.
Speaker 1: But then as as a few pimps that got you know,
Speaker 1: the whole little look you know when let's say you're
Speaker 1: a clean ass pimp and then you get hooked on
Speaker 1: cracked and eventually you're gonna ride that car to the
Speaker 1: only got three rims and it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: fucked up and got it dead. Then your clothes get
Speaker 1: a little shabby, and then somewhere down the line, we
Speaker 1: started having an image of pimps looking like that, and
Speaker 1: we forgot the magic of what these motherfucker's that did
Speaker 1: for hundreds of years, if you like to say, late seventies,
Speaker 1: pre crack and the track with pretty much people I
Speaker 1: would assume I'm before my time, like a fashion show, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it would be populated by like professional holes who
Speaker 1: had pimps. Pretty yeah, you start getting I don't want
Speaker 1: to say, kind of holes who just strung I gotta
Speaker 1: go sell some pussy to get it it real quick,
Speaker 1: polluting the track. I would imagine that's how I grew up.
Speaker 1: That's what happened after, Like I grew up seeing pimping
Speaker 1: a hole in that way, Like I didn't even see holes.
Speaker 1: I only see strawberries. So then okay, so if you
Speaker 1: got if you got a certain integrity about what you do,
Speaker 1: and you see this drug flood, the the turf, the
Speaker 1: track and ship and ship and sucking. Uh, it's just
Speaker 1: making this ship look bad. And that whole little like
Speaker 1: I just got the image of when it was like,
Speaker 1: it's like your dick twentys and it just you know,
Speaker 1: crack head hole, crack head holl. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: like but the glamor went out of it. But then
Speaker 1: it never went away because you sit there and talk
Speaker 1: about um like you you say, she's a hoe, but
Speaker 1: she's a call girl, and he like the call girl,
Speaker 1: you expect her to kind of like carry herself a
Speaker 1: little different call girl. She could walk into a hotel
Speaker 1: and walk up to a hotel rooms, walk to her kneed,
Speaker 1: walk back getting her car and go as well as
Speaker 1: she could do be a call girl and go doing
Speaker 1: a house call or something. But you see a whole
Speaker 1: as a bit you get picked up into a car
Speaker 1: on the street corner for chump chains and do to
Speaker 1: do in the car or something, Gonna go do it
Speaker 1: in the cheap motail something. But the other side of it,
Speaker 1: so you say, what does the car girl make? Oh,
Speaker 1: every time she's go on the call, she's gonna make
Speaker 1: a five hunter. The better. So that's so call girls
Speaker 1: is the whole prostitutes the real ones. No, that's just
Speaker 1: it's just a different level of different levels selling. It's selling,
Speaker 1: rocks are selling answers are selling kilos. What level you want?
Speaker 1: So fucking um the car girl is. Now you know this,
Speaker 1: this turns into from from that whole crackhead ship. It
Speaker 1: turns into where you want to be. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be on the street, you know bits get on
Speaker 1: and get my money. You don't want to be that
Speaker 1: guy that's like fucking little little kid games and ship.
Speaker 1: That's some ship like like the it was like they
Speaker 1: wasn't even in that world. You're sitting there stuck on
Speaker 1: crackhead holes and all that thing is over here looking
Speaker 1: like then you might play for a sports team or
Speaker 1: the nigga might be a rapper, or you be like
Speaker 1: who this little baller as motherfuck is and got three
Speaker 1: or four and they're knocking down, you know, twenty a
Speaker 1: month each and it's coming daily gobs of cash and
Speaker 1: you're sitting there making fun of these pimps and not
Speaker 1: even knowing the whole time. The game moved on and
Speaker 1: the game kept going, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: a It was a beautiful thing, bro, Like I can
Speaker 1: take you through eras of like East Coast, Miami, fucking
Speaker 1: here in that l a fucking Vegas like a motherfucker Hawaii,
Speaker 1: and the game lives on like that, that crackhead image
Speaker 1: staying in shitty ass neighborhoods and and you know, if
Speaker 1: that's what you want to go for. But man, that
Speaker 1: piece shi and it ain't about fucking suit and tie
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking rhyman ryman and ship with words with
Speaker 1: your name or some ship is motherfucker's writing lambos bro Ye,
Speaker 1: it's unpleay to pay a prostitute, Uh, because I I
Speaker 1: think I've been on this whole spell, like right when
Speaker 1: I'm working on music. I just think that's unpleay. Yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: you're not a real player if you're paying. So look,
Speaker 1: if you've got an arrangement going with a with a
Speaker 1: with a chick, If y'all got some kind of arrangement
Speaker 1: where it's some money making family vibe money coming to
Speaker 1: then you said at the table when you bring in money,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got a money maker, you don't
Speaker 1: want her to be broke. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You want to let her live her best life too.
Speaker 1: If you live in your best life, let her. You know,
Speaker 1: it's different ways. Like some dudes, it's like really hardcore
Speaker 1: on it. But if you're just a civilian and you
Speaker 1: come in contact with the hell, I mean, she's only
Speaker 1: looking at you one way if you give her money,
Speaker 1: and so there's no other there's no other way. And
Speaker 1: if you don't give her money, she's only looking at
Speaker 1: you one way, Like you're a trick? Are you're not
Speaker 1: a trick? Which one? Are you? Ship? You wasting my
Speaker 1: time when you're dealing with a real one. But now
Speaker 1: we've got the blurred lines of yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they want to be the one thing missed. Meet
Speaker 1: your to table in the club and say if you
Speaker 1: cash had me two hunted out second dick ass for
Speaker 1: the night with you, Yeah, that's some ship. That's bitch
Speaker 1: if you don't get away from me, um cash at
Speaker 1: me right now. That's what I said, what ship? That's
Speaker 1: funny though I can't I can't, but I can't imagine
Speaker 1: the motherfucking broad that's gonna come up trying to play you.
Speaker 1: That's trick philosophy, is I mean? I was gonna take
Speaker 1: her to dinner anyway. I heard nig say that be
Speaker 1: killing me with that. Okay, that's that's my food. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, that's food delivery. You know what. You look
Speaker 1: at me at face value. Girls think this is a
Speaker 1: walking Yeah, so I get all of that. You get
Speaker 1: off get I get inboxed cash apps unsolicited. You want,
Speaker 1: you should holler at me, here's my cash app. I
Speaker 1: don't even know you, like they walk up to me
Speaker 1: like that, like it's feet salty about that. It was like,
Speaker 1: so you really just think I'm just not really because
Speaker 1: I view it as an opportunity. Now you're gonna learn.
Speaker 1: You know, I hang out with a couple of white pimps. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like, what about white players. It's um, it's white pimps. White.
Speaker 1: It wasn't white from Chicago. I'm not talking about the
Speaker 1: suit and tide oh jim to my some young real
Speaker 1: white pimps. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the way to do it, bro. But look, you know,
Speaker 1: game is game. They learned real fast, like if you
Speaker 1: if you live and die by the game, they just
Speaker 1: learned real fast who you are. Like they they've engaged
Speaker 1: in you all, man, I don't know about this game
Speaker 1: goofy hole and this ship, but real host at all
Speaker 1: times they just like they got the host sonar on you. Man,
Speaker 1: They're like reading is he or ain'ty? Because if you
Speaker 1: ain't got no money for it, she really putting a
Speaker 1: whole lot of energy. And you period. It's just a
Speaker 1: time frame which to figure out you're gonna brand me
Speaker 1: up or not. But the real game is is ficient,
Speaker 1: It's savage. It ain't for everybody, man, that real life,
Speaker 1: real game, that play game is what we all been
Speaker 1: rapping and talking about. Really know, it's for you that
Speaker 1: play game where you know the new way man, Like
Speaker 1: you can call yourself pimp. You what I'm saying you
Speaker 1: could you know what I mean. It's call yourself a
Speaker 1: player and all you're doing is paying all the hoses
Speaker 1: with you that you're a players. That's the new day.
Speaker 1: And he got to say that an Atlanta player. I
Speaker 1: don't know who said it first. It ain't tricken. If
Speaker 1: you got it, that's a lie. It's tricking steel. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just trick. It's just tricking that affecting your pockets.
Speaker 1: I prefer that's the one thing I love about stunner Man, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I love about stunner Man. Right
Speaker 1: with stunner Man, stunn of Man, they they knew it
Speaker 1: was tricking. It wasn't never like trying to They never
Speaker 1: denied it, right, and was like, oh, this ain't tricking,
Speaker 1: this is tricking. Still Like, well, I talked to girls
Speaker 1: from Atlanta and this and this is a little maybe
Speaker 1: more social political, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: trying to find a diagnose what makes West Coast mentality
Speaker 1: and West Coast mentality. But girls from Atlanta like, well,
Speaker 1: I expect a guy to be a gentleman and the
Speaker 1: pay for And I'm like, sweetheart, we're in Los Angeles. Like, firstly,
Speaker 1: so all that southern gent crap you can leave it
Speaker 1: where you came from, because when we don't do that
Speaker 1: out here. But to your point, why do you think
Speaker 1: I should do that? What about you makes you think
Speaker 1: you deserve that from me? Out the box? Never an answer,
Speaker 1: But I feel like down in like like the Texas
Speaker 1: of the world, extra cash on hand if you're a
Speaker 1: regular guy, because life is cheap out there out here?
Speaker 1: Life is not cheap, are you saying? Because if you.
Speaker 1: If I wanted to go spend money like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: like you got that extra sevens a month ago, blow
Speaker 1: on impressing a girl every month in Dallas. If I
Speaker 1: did that out here in the wrong situation, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be victed over pussy. Like nobody getting evicted over some
Speaker 1: pussy and music recording the show for you just to
Speaker 1: broadcast a live cut your ship off? Please? Did you
Speaker 1: please cut it off so we can have something. That's
Speaker 1: the hardest part about player is watching when somebody try
Speaker 1: to play. That's why that's why I can't commit to
Speaker 1: being a player. It's just it's too like you gotta
Speaker 1: be on guard all the time. But I can't trick neither.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think that's just because I'm
Speaker 1: from here. That's why I say I retired because now
Speaker 1: I look at it like I want to buy my
Speaker 1: time back, and all now it makes that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Because if I if I look at it like I'm
Speaker 1: giving you my time for free, I'm saying to you
Speaker 1: our time is worth the same amount. If I'm giving
Speaker 1: you money for my time, I'm saying my time is
Speaker 1: worth more than yours, because it's profitable to me to
Speaker 1: give you money todable for a fine broad that if
Speaker 1: you wanted to pay it, I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: bring it to I can't to do it. I can't.
Speaker 1: And they was talking about like the baddest bitches in
Speaker 1: l A, the baddest bitches. And they start putting up numbers.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a barber shop full the ball
Speaker 1: and they started put up to number. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, oh girls such as such. They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she she find it's fun. It's like Nigga her rent
Speaker 1: like thirty five hunted, you pay the rant, you can
Speaker 1: funk for a month. Nigga was like, I got thirty
Speaker 1: five hunted. That's how the conversation was going. I'm just
Speaker 1: in there listening to Oh my god, I knowed you
Speaker 1: raise this generation and this is what we gonna do.
Speaker 1: But the niggas said, man, if she sharted thirty five
Speaker 1: hund to be her boyfriend for a month, I'm in
Speaker 1: I just don't think nobody that bad. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm saying bro, it's it's it is a woman that
Speaker 1: I think is that bad. The way I would pay
Speaker 1: for her company I just can't believe that paying for
Speaker 1: her absence. It's the it's the trick leisure of not
Speaker 1: having to go through the brain power of the fucking
Speaker 1: back and forth with the dialogue and then the coast.
Speaker 1: But that's the best part. No, it's not the best
Speaker 1: part comes. Yeah, I mean you want you want that
Speaker 1: in the world. We want a lot of that in
Speaker 1: the world because because you know, pussy makes money, and
Speaker 1: you know, if a chicken is like on the independent side,
Speaker 1: or if she got some sponsorship or something I had,
Speaker 1: it's coming. It's going into the universe. I had a
Speaker 1: conversation about this earlier. I wanted to tell you about
Speaker 1: this fucking kid. No. Look, so I was telling the
Speaker 1: homie on live. I was like, the problem is men
Speaker 1: try to value themselves based off the pussy they're getting,
Speaker 1: and like, if you're getting pussy, I was talking, I
Speaker 1: was talking to Katie, was pushing chopping it up, and
Speaker 1: we was having a conversation about fucking and he was like,
Speaker 1: we was talking about Drake specifically. I don't remember what
Speaker 1: we was talking about. It wasn't nothing crazy, but he
Speaker 1: was like, man, Drake music and for people that get pussy,
Speaker 1: and I said, that's crazy, because everybody get pussy like Nagy,
Speaker 1: everybody don't get pussy. I said, it's a nigger in
Speaker 1: a tent on Maple and fourth right now getting some pussy.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that that nigga started to value themselves
Speaker 1: off the bitches they was fucking like the bitch don't
Speaker 1: got the one lady or the one man that nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna be proud she did. And I noticed other people
Speaker 1: wanted girls that I talked to because I talked to him,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I don't understand, how is that valuable?
Speaker 1: If she a fuck anybody like, it's always any girl
Speaker 1: who you overvalue, any girl that's overvalued. Che didn't hear
Speaker 1: somebody that she was looking like you fuck that niggd.
Speaker 1: I know, man, but it's a popularity contest going on
Speaker 1: right now, and it's just a matter of, uh, what
Speaker 1: kind of little clips can you get in what kind
Speaker 1: of little still photos can you get? So if you
Speaker 1: go into the frame of a lens and you put
Speaker 1: on some fake ass diamonds as some fake ass gold,
Speaker 1: and you pay a bit to stand there in the
Speaker 1: picture with you, are two bitches that you're paying your
Speaker 1: and it's a bottle on the table that you bought
Speaker 1: and you somebody later on. You could redefine that moment.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You could just let the
Speaker 1: moment look look at captioning something and that that that
Speaker 1: that volidifies your player with j Homi told me paid
Speaker 1: for all this ship and ship you you got overcharged
Speaker 1: for the bottle you paid the two house That fucking
Speaker 1: about the fact jury everything about you in that pictures
Speaker 1: fake and you put you put a caption likes they
Speaker 1: like shame. There's no more shame. I'm trying because to me,
Speaker 1: most of the time, of the stuff I don't do,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: ashamed of myself. I'm not gonna do short of things
Speaker 1: because the shame of myself. These niggas could looking at
Speaker 1: like these these niggas could look in the mirror and
Speaker 1: be lying and be Okay, look where the validation is
Speaker 1: coming from. The validation used to come from only the streets,
Speaker 1: only the community. Now it comes from imaginary motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: just gotta tap a screen twice, that's validation. Two taps.
Speaker 1: So validation used to be uh man glasses said you're
Speaker 1: a real one. Now two taps. If enough people do that,
Speaker 1: that tap said you're a real one, and you ain't
Speaker 1: did nothing to be coming that. I'm sure that I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't following it, but I'm sure somebody just became
Speaker 1: super fly as gang bangers. I ain't talking about it.
Speaker 1: Ain't on that from social media like Nigga nia and
Speaker 1: like this nigga ain't. Ain't nobody in the streets know
Speaker 1: if his rep and to me like I don't. What's
Speaker 1: crazy is I don't have a problem with it. If
Speaker 1: your own homies is validated. That's where I kind of
Speaker 1: be like, my ain't tripping. If your own homies gonna
Speaker 1: let you get it off, I ain't tripping. What funk
Speaker 1: with me is when they start trying to convince me.
Speaker 1: That's that's my issues. Like I was telling Charlotte, made
Speaker 1: my issues with trans people in generalism. Don't try to
Speaker 1: convince me. Convince yourself. That's the only thing I feel
Speaker 1: like as a man or as a human being, convinced
Speaker 1: a person in the mirror. But when people start trying
Speaker 1: to mess with your mind. So if certain people like
Speaker 1: that was putting on the show of being a gangster
Speaker 1: for their brand. Start trying to convince me. That's one
Speaker 1: thing I never had to deal with. So what about
Speaker 1: like the inception of a whole new hood, Like you
Speaker 1: take New York thirty years ago and like Atlanta just
Speaker 1: recently in the last five so years a little more maybe,
Speaker 1: And you know, no matter where it comes from New York,
Speaker 1: they said it came from the prisons and spread out
Speaker 1: to the streets Atlanta. I feel like, damn, they came
Speaker 1: from hip hop sudding. I don't know where, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying how you feel about Like motherfucker's just wake up.
Speaker 1: One day they got a bunch of little homes were
Speaker 1: hanging in the apartments, were like, fucking nigga, we're the
Speaker 1: so and so crips now. And then for a minute
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, y'all ain't even really. But then years
Speaker 1: from now, them saying niggas just like it's it's a
Speaker 1: whole little, little little pack of little niggas. I was
Speaker 1: born into that ship, and you say, man, y'all ain't really.
Speaker 1: They're like, Nigga, I was borned this ship, nigger. That's
Speaker 1: why I keep saying. I argue with the Homy the
Speaker 1: other day. You can't telling Nick out of town that
Speaker 1: cripping ain't real. Then niggas grew up with cripping and
Speaker 1: blood and at this point, yeah, so so it don't
Speaker 1: matter it's origin, you feel me, It don't matter where
Speaker 1: it started that if it's two or three generations deep,
Speaker 1: like it's certain states across the country. Me and Dog
Speaker 1: had this conversation. I'm like, niggas grew up gang banking.
Speaker 1: They the older brothers that some nigga's fathers and other
Speaker 1: states were gang bankers. So now their kids growing up
Speaker 1: in it. So at that point, they don't matter where
Speaker 1: it started at nobody give a funk. Rap. Rap would
Speaker 1: have allowed me if I was looking at this ship
Speaker 1: all wrong. Rap would allow me to be the coldest
Speaker 1: pimper in the world just because what I was rapping about.
Speaker 1: I could have just said all the process at some point,
Speaker 1: just when got eight holes and like fun rapping just
Speaker 1: but out of control, and it would have been the
Speaker 1: life imitating art, not the other way around. You know,
Speaker 1: becaulse it did it? Bro like you know it was.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure a lot of prostitutes came to
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, I will sail for you special
Speaker 1: on that like BT did the thing where there was
Speaker 1: like actually one of your show's backstage, some girl they
Speaker 1: were falling around. She was trying to be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go up on Too Short and I'm gonna go, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go get on his team and ship like she
Speaker 1: thought this this was a real television and you and
Speaker 1: you were on there looking indifferent as funk about this
Speaker 1: bit walking up to you trying to join your TEAMO
Speaker 1: holes and you were like, what are you doing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm about to do a shop. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I finished selling for you today, short haired chicken. So
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about like your rap being like
Speaker 1: player like. It was always player like I heard pimp,
Speaker 1: but I think I always got player yep. So that's
Speaker 1: why I could never imagine somebody twelve years, you know,
Speaker 1: in ninety two talking about let me I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: too Short girl. That just how could you listen to
Speaker 1: Too Short and think to yourself? Eventually some of this
Speaker 1: ship got to become real. Uh As a female, the
Speaker 1: songs were designed for you, tobe Uh detach yourself from
Speaker 1: the insults and easily just say he's talking about her.
Speaker 1: You're the only thing in the world I can get
Speaker 1: that off. Though I kind of right it that way
Speaker 1: a little bit too, because I had to be its
Speaker 1: certain words, Like even in all my wraps, I try
Speaker 1: to make it seem like I'm only talking to one dude,
Speaker 1: like I'm not talking to a group of people. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking to a crowd. I'm like interrap. I'm always like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I said something something, you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just like little Ship. Just like little ship, It's it's
Speaker 1: a conversation to one person. And then every time I
Speaker 1: go in on that bitch ain't ship type ship, I
Speaker 1: make sure I don't say bitches ain't ship or y'all
Speaker 1: bitches ain't ship. It's always like the bitch ain't ship.
Speaker 1: Why so if you're a female right there? And I
Speaker 1: just I learned that my people's reactions to the songs,
Speaker 1: I was right, So I just started like writing more
Speaker 1: like that. And and the way when I wrapped to
Speaker 1: the one person, I call it out in my mind,
Speaker 1: I call that one person the two short fan, Like
Speaker 1: it's one two short fan that funk with too short,
Speaker 1: so like real for real with her husband and the
Speaker 1: husband you see that that's the secradment. Her husband was
Speaker 1: looking like ship. But no, if I if I think
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm doing a song I'm recording. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: that real to shrip fan ain't gonna like this ship,
Speaker 1: gonna be mad because I get a little information from
Speaker 1: real too short fans like motherfucker, like and I like
Speaker 1: that song, brother, they didn't had that two short based,
Speaker 1: so like when I'm in the student, I gotta remember
Speaker 1: about that two short based or like, man, he's being
Speaker 1: all nice on that song. You know what's funny? Your
Speaker 1: brand is as advertised and and sometimes I don't mention
Speaker 1: you could always mentioned nice tea, always mentioned dog. But
Speaker 1: your brand is as advertised. You you exactly who you
Speaker 1: are on the records and banks. Just tell me I
Speaker 1: record a song, we record the ship. He's like that ship, Harrid,
Speaker 1: but you gotta put that two short ship on it.
Speaker 1: So when I figured out what he's talking about the
Speaker 1: two shorts ship is go back and say all the
Speaker 1: same ship, except instead of saying, yeah, bitch sucked my dick,
Speaker 1: just go back and then say yeah, bitch sucked my dick.
Speaker 1: Bitch like like say it and it come out better
Speaker 1: on the record. So you don't you didn't really know
Speaker 1: ship about brand. This is just was how he was
Speaker 1: living exactly what Brand ain't marketing? What the funk? What
Speaker 1: the fund is that? What? Then? That is maybe out
Speaker 1: there and we was out there being it and really
Speaker 1: like saying what was really real? So, uh, Born in
Speaker 1: Mac the album cover, Nigga, I would never lie about
Speaker 1: that day we went up to shoot the album cover.
Speaker 1: I'm like this this seven the day we did this
Speaker 1: photo shoot, and eighty seven the first half of eighty seven,
Speaker 1: I was broke as fuck. Second half of eighty seven,
Speaker 1: I had hell of money when we shot that album
Speaker 1: cover right in the middle of them too. That day
Speaker 1: we go up there, you know, we're getting a little
Speaker 1: paper and ship but it ain't really happening yet. But
Speaker 1: my nigga tied Bo Hannon. He got eight cars, hell
Speaker 1: of money, all kind of ship. You know, him and
Speaker 1: his brother they have the gang of ship whatever. So
Speaker 1: the Cadillac on Born the MC album cover is Ted's
Speaker 1: car and we're going to do the shoot. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta get the caddy, man, we gotta put the
Speaker 1: top down something. We gotta go parking up at the
Speaker 1: top of the top of the town and just see
Speaker 1: the whole view of the bay and all that. We
Speaker 1: get up there that day and it's overcast, so we're
Speaker 1: looking at clouds and ship. We don't see the water.
Speaker 1: We don't see the sky light of San Francisco, wen't
Speaker 1: We don't see that all this ship. So Chris Hicks
Speaker 1: c nh whom he put a loony's in the game.
Speaker 1: He put Drew down in the game. You know, we're
Speaker 1: all the same crew. So Chris he looking we up there,
Speaker 1: it's about you know, eighteen homies, a few cars up there.
Speaker 1: We got the Cadillact position, we got a photographer. I'm
Speaker 1: right there. We got probably got a little chain on
Speaker 1: or something to do that cover. Chris is like, we
Speaker 1: lost We don't got the scenery. You're like, man, fuck
Speaker 1: all this ship. There's a bunch of dope dudes outside. Right,
Speaker 1: He's like, everybody, all y'all gets tacking all your jewel
Speaker 1: put all the jewelry on short like like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we sit up there and over
Speaker 1: over dramatize everything about it, and when you look back
Speaker 1: that cover, you're like, man, that nigga is up, pimp,
Speaker 1: look at this nigga. But it's it's Oakland, bro, It's
Speaker 1: Oakland like Nigga like nigga. We all band together to
Speaker 1: make this motherfucking cold ass character. And the ship is
Speaker 1: you know, so didn't The story I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you is so Now I perpetuate this moment in life.
Speaker 1: I'm like money coming in. I'm like, the first thing
Speaker 1: I gotta do that I did wrong in the universe.
Speaker 1: I gotta go fix that ship. I have to buy
Speaker 1: this Cadillac and I gotta go buy a butch of
Speaker 1: fucking chains, and I have to drive this Cadillac down
Speaker 1: the street. You fo. Somebody saying, R nigga, nigga, go
Speaker 1: ask Ted we go to pink slip Nigga. I throw
Speaker 1: that motherfucker through every hood in with the top down.
Speaker 1: It was real life. It was not Born to MC
Speaker 1: album cover was not a picture. It really happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for real, for real, all right. I ain't gonna keep
Speaker 1: you man, I just I just I'm saying that's the
Speaker 1: the gang were saying. It ain't. Oh yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you don't mistake the game, I saying, I gotta get
Speaker 1: on a bitch, that's not what the game is. I
Speaker 1: gotta get on all these motherfucker's. Everybody got to know
Speaker 1: this ship straight up. So tell you I know you know,
Speaker 1: I know you know, I know you know you know,
Speaker 1: I know you know. And that's coming from the first
Speaker 1: fourteen years of my life in l A. So I
Speaker 1: gotta go up here and adjust to this ship. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I didn't just I wasn't born into the ship. I
Speaker 1: got there and just learned the game real fact, like
Speaker 1: you know, crash course they top man. You're gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something else that's beneficial about Short Dog is them
Speaker 1: first fourteen years gave me something that when I got that,
Speaker 1: when I got the two short Ship together, the Oakland
Speaker 1: Pip and all that, I had a ace in the
Speaker 1: hole that was like weight heavy. It's called l A.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then I when I
Speaker 1: got to so when I go to move around, I'm
Speaker 1: not I got you gotta go to the big city.
Speaker 1: But when I go to the big city, it's actually
Speaker 1: hell of familiar, hell of family, hell of connects. I know,
Speaker 1: I know the streets, I know to move around, so
Speaker 1: that where are you from down here? Eight even, but
Speaker 1: long man, get the funk out of here. My cousins
Speaker 1: everywhere in l A. I got cousins on uh else
Speaker 1: a gun knowing Main Cross Street from lock high for life,
Speaker 1: I got cousins sucking my cousins litle hunting fifth and
Speaker 1: uh Norman d figure we got some property eight. You know,
Speaker 1: my cousins, I've got a lot of cousins's crazy dog
Speaker 1: straight up. But just adding that to it. Knowing how
Speaker 1: to get up and down that highway five and when
Speaker 1: you get off that freeway, what to do and what
Speaker 1: not to do, where to go, where not to go,
Speaker 1: and actually having family and relatives going you know, what's
Speaker 1: going on right here, and you know, like really knowing,
Speaker 1: Like I know, I know a lot. Like I probably
Speaker 1: couldn't sit here and talk to you h history, but
Speaker 1: I could, like I could follow the storage from the
Speaker 1: eighties when it really jumped off. I can't even tell
Speaker 1: the ship about before the eighties when I was here
Speaker 1: because I moved away before a gang bang and got active. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no motherfucking every nigg and red shooting every
Speaker 1: nigg in. So it was like hell of territorial. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of niggas I was. I lived all Crypture,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of niggas are just it was
Speaker 1: just like cryp get along kind of crypt like. It
Speaker 1: wasn't cryp on CRYPTI. I never grew up in that.
Speaker 1: By the time I came up, it was just where
Speaker 1: are you from? Versus the nigga's next door? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: crazy because so I leave, I leave on like an
Speaker 1: elementary school kind of vibe, you know, like kind of young.
Speaker 1: When I come back, everybody I grew up with is
Speaker 1: bang it. I'm like everybody and it's like, man, my
Speaker 1: little cousins that like goddamn Like, so you're just like
Speaker 1: a real West Coast California nigga. Yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 1: I just it was a fortunate uh you know, events
Speaker 1: that I you know, occurred in my life and ship,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of like rolled away the right
Speaker 1: way and kind of kind of how did you just, Okay,
Speaker 1: before we jet out, how did you not pimp? If
Speaker 1: it's that simple, Well, I'm sure situation could happen, but
Speaker 1: how did you not commit to the easy opportunity? Because
Speaker 1: it had to be pressed? Okay, I'm easy. You could
Speaker 1: do it easy without even trying I started rapping as
Speaker 1: soon as I got to the Bay. Me and my
Speaker 1: rap partner Freddie b. We get popular really fast before
Speaker 1: anybody else, So anybody period in hip hop, we popped
Speaker 1: it off into Bay. Then I go to h seventy
Speaker 1: five Girls record Dean. How did I started making records
Speaker 1: with Dean? And this motherfucking um the ship just blow up.
Speaker 1: Then from Dean the next situation, we start our own company,
Speaker 1: which was Dean hodges On on seventi five Girls Records.
Speaker 1: He was a deep boy. You know, everybody came up
Speaker 1: with him, all deep boys. So his his little brother
Speaker 1: and his first cousin. We branched off from Dean because
Speaker 1: you know Dean, you know, like with the little kids.
Speaker 1: To him, he's like, I'm through with shows. We branched
Speaker 1: off and start our own ship using the formula that
Speaker 1: he used on seventy five Girls Records. So we start
Speaker 1: dangerous music and Nigga I'd say eight seven. We started
Speaker 1: making a lot of money. The first thing we put
Speaker 1: out with Freaky Tails. Start making a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I go from there to Drive Records. I started making
Speaker 1: a lot more money, start doing tours. I'm going to
Speaker 1: straight out of competit tour with Easy The next year
Speaker 1: when Ice Cube quit n w A and went out
Speaker 1: tour solo, I'm on that tour with him. We every
Speaker 1: I'm everywhere, like so I'm thinking before I could even think, like,
Speaker 1: uh man, I pimpty hull of I just fall into
Speaker 1: this too short ship. And I ain't never been stupid.
Speaker 1: So this whole time as easy as fun to go niked.
Speaker 1: If you wrap about pimping on every album and then
Speaker 1: you go out of pimps some holes, you're you're actually
Speaker 1: just doing your own case for the district attorney to
Speaker 1: just sucking put your hasts away forever. That'd be the
Speaker 1: easiest case. Every files proven two shows a pill. I
Speaker 1: can't do a ship, man, I couldn't do it. I
Speaker 1: like it was just even the weekends and the month
Speaker 1: in the year and whatever time I did, like take
Speaker 1: some whole money, the whole of bring what I said,
Speaker 1: if it's on a good month to be got to
Speaker 1: bring your average thousand a month. They getting that ship
Speaker 1: Friday night, trying not gonna wake on this bit thirty
Speaker 1: days to give me what I'm getting Friday, Come on, man.
Speaker 1: So if it's one last thing, if it's one player,
Speaker 1: one thing, one person who you feel like throughout your
Speaker 1: whole career, you didn't did a million motherfucking interviews and
Speaker 1: all that. If it's one person, you want to think
Speaker 1: that you like that that nobody ever says, like, Man,
Speaker 1: you know what this person was influential when this ship
Speaker 1: I do and motherfucker's will have no idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the only one, one name you could go to.
Speaker 1: Man that before anything else that matter happened. It was
Speaker 1: the one and the one thing that was a factor
Speaker 1: was the nigga Dean Hodges and that was it. Like
Speaker 1: I can tell you about what what the Bohannes did
Speaker 1: for me, I can tell you about what you know
Speaker 1: people in the music industry did for me. I could
Speaker 1: tell you about what family members did, but this Nigga
Speaker 1: Dean was I'm I'm I just turned nineteen. Now, my
Speaker 1: mama moved from and my brother they moved from Oakland
Speaker 1: to Phoenix. So now I'm in the town by myself.
Speaker 1: I didn't just caught up here like uh five six
Speaker 1: years ago, and now I'm solo bolo in the town.
Speaker 1: I get plugged in through two Dean, through his little
Speaker 1: brother and the Dean is a nigga who's playing keylows
Speaker 1: and ship. He got to five. He's driving the eighty
Speaker 1: five bands. He got an eighty five cats house in
Speaker 1: the hills. He all this ship, and we were seeing
Speaker 1: Nigga right by. We knew his little brother. You seeing
Speaker 1: Nigga ride by Dean and kind of nigging on wave
Speaker 1: at she's doing some old players wave rememn't look your way,
Speaker 1: just like straight up the hill. He's going up the hill.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, he wouldn't even wave with his own
Speaker 1: goddamn brother. And so we were really cool with his
Speaker 1: brother because we know that Dean little brother. He got
Speaker 1: Hella like benefits, goodies and ship and he's coming through
Speaker 1: with the ship, and you know he's getting his getting
Speaker 1: his right for respect for his status in life. So
Speaker 1: he like, I'm gonna pluggy with my brother, man, and
Speaker 1: he take me up there, and you know, Niga give
Speaker 1: us the cold shoulder, won't even open the door for us.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, it was up man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: come back later. Fucking we come back later. He rolled
Speaker 1: us up in there, and I ain't never man, I
Speaker 1: don't like you could talk about this playership, but this
Speaker 1: nigga Dean was a player like this nigga. This nigger
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend that lived with him. But then at
Speaker 1: all times it was just like bitches. Like we said
Speaker 1: on the couch watching TVs. I'm acting like I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk, but it's two bitches dancing behind me
Speaker 1: in their panties and they're like just in their own
Speaker 1: world and he's just acting like they ain't there in
Speaker 1: the house. Just he got motherfucker's coming in and out
Speaker 1: buying fucking dope. He didn't selling nothing under like, he
Speaker 1: really sold it, like just like like street famous. Motherfucker
Speaker 1: us to laps and ship. So he had to come
Speaker 1: by like at least by about to ounce something like
Speaker 1: he wasn't. It wasn't a trap house. And Nikki just
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a rock star man. So he
Speaker 1: was selling it a little dope. And he said he
Speaker 1: had been selling dope since sixth grade. That's all he
Speaker 1: ever did. He was really good at it and he
Speaker 1: was living a rock star life. So he hired all
Speaker 1: these musicians. He got too short, the rapper, he got
Speaker 1: the bras for the look. He got everything he wanted
Speaker 1: and like all y'all be around me now now to
Speaker 1: do it. So we hare that he he buying the
Speaker 1: best studios, the best equipment, like when I've come out
Speaker 1: with Born the Back and all that ship. Even before that,
Speaker 1: when I was doing another Steffire Girls ship. Nick, We're
Speaker 1: on the best ship. We got. We got Rick James,
Speaker 1: motherfucking musicians in the house. We got niggas that played
Speaker 1: with tower of power. He got if you gotta, if
Speaker 1: you got a weakness, he was. He was working just
Speaker 1: like uh, explaining that ship, man, Like what's your weakness? Here?
Speaker 1: Take more of it, keep playing do that ship. So
Speaker 1: I learned from the best of the best. I learned
Speaker 1: in the best studios. At the same time, the nigga
Speaker 1: put me in this position. He telled me, you know,
Speaker 1: come stay at my house. I'm staying in this house
Speaker 1: with all the while ship going on, with the bitches
Speaker 1: walking around naked and ship and I'm just I'm like playing, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if who who always in on this ship.
Speaker 1: But they they really real me in the game and
Speaker 1: was like, Nigga, You're gonna be a real nigga because
Speaker 1: the nigga, the nigga had his broad um. He went
Speaker 1: away one night and the bitch was like walking around
Speaker 1: with a robo but ass neaked and ship and she
Speaker 1: was just like um. She was like, man, shut you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen you looking at me. I like you fine,
Speaker 1: I'll be looking. And she was like you want to fuck?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so we had the house about ourself, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I want to fuck. She said, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me something about Dean. Give me some dirt. I said,
Speaker 1: every time you leave the best next door come over
Speaker 1: here and they're going the room and kick it. And
Speaker 1: she was like I knew it. She's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm getting some pussy. She went in the room. It
Speaker 1: never came back out. The next day he said, nigga,
Speaker 1: don't you ever let the bitches ship again. They got
Speaker 1: ride a nigger around, like like, come on, man, you
Speaker 1: call never do that like that. But but I was
Speaker 1: saying that that don't happen, then I'm I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it later on again in life somewhere like nipped that
Speaker 1: ship in the bud. Right, you know, Dan's riding Nick
Speaker 1: down to l A. We're going down to l A.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was going to make some business moves.
Speaker 1: Or whatever, you know, in the in the in the
Speaker 1: street ship. But he on the entertainment ship. We're pulling
Speaker 1: up on niggas like iced tea and you know, just
Speaker 1: chopping up the game. At the same time he's doing
Speaker 1: the dirt, he's doing the legitimate ship being a label.
Speaker 1: So and Nigga taught me move for move, how to
Speaker 1: get that money in the rap game, like how to
Speaker 1: not as a rap not rap game, but how to
Speaker 1: fucking labels like this is what you gotta do. Go
Speaker 1: do this, just just go here, go there, and n
Speaker 1: I the ship that he taught me is what I
Speaker 1: taught all the all the bay niggas, niul go to
Speaker 1: the studio, mix it down, master ship, go to the distributor,
Speaker 1: grab that, go take that to the motherfucker, you know,
Speaker 1: go to the manufacturer and go to the distributor. Go back,
Speaker 1: make sure your money come back like this. But but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, gave all the niggas to
Speaker 1: go here ship that Dean showed me. So he's very
Speaker 1: instrumental to bury hip hop. But you know, even though
Speaker 1: he wasn't hip hop person, he was they didn't wanted
Speaker 1: to be Jimmy Hendricks he wanted to be Boosey Collins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the nigga literally gave birth to you know E
Speaker 1: forty and them come from a different they can see,
Speaker 1: they come from a different you know, source of where
Speaker 1: they got the game as far as the music go.
Speaker 1: But it's the same ship. It's the same independent hustle.
Speaker 1: And if you if you got it from Knowing with
Speaker 1: forty New coming from St. Charles, or if you got
Speaker 1: it from Too Short Tibo Hannon, you know, coming from
Speaker 1: Dean Hodges, it's the same game. You know what I'm saying.