1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Walking back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Show Tuesday Edition program. Appreciate all of you hanging out 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: with us. I'm back from Italy. We've been having a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: lot of fun breaking down everything. We're joined now by 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: our friend Andie McCarthy, who just celebrated his thirtieth wedding anniversary. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Congrats on that. More importantly, congrats to your wife, who 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: probably has had to deal with a lot more over 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: those thirty years than you have, if she's anything like 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: my own wife and Andy. I'm curious, as a thirtieth 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary present, would you be ecstatic to get Aaron 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers as the quarterback of your New York Jets. I 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: think I'd be more ecstatic than my wife. Frankly, but 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: you already lost your reliever by the way to the 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classics. I know you're a big Mets fan, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: so it feels like maybe you do deserve Aaron. Well. Yeah, 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: and if his arm is still good enough, maybe he 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: can replaced as we could kill yet no doubt. All right, 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: so I hope he's ready to play, that's all, Buck. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: It's just this is like when you brought up el 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Sid Buck you got no idea, what I got nothing? 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I got nothing? Sorry, all right, Andy, you and and 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: then I and Buck. We've been having this ongoing conversation 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: about all the different investigations going on into Donald Trump, 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and my theory had been that one of these local prosecutors, 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: either in Georgia or New York would decide that they 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: have so much political upside that they would bring a 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: charge against Trump, and maybe both still will. How do 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: you see this playing out? How does it impact the 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Department of Justice investigations? What do you think Joe Biden 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: and Merrick Garland are thinking as they watch what Alvin 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Bragg is doing and also what continues to go on 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: down in Atlanta. Well, I think you're entirely right about 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the likelihood of the local prosecutors pulling the trigger first, 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: because you know, I don't think we I think the 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: media is very foot of Washington centric, and we probably 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: focus on this enough. But unlike in the federal system, 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the state attorney generals and the UH and the local prosecutors, 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: like the district attorney in Manhattan, they're elected officials. So yeah, 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: politics pervades what they do. And in Manhattan and in 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: big cities, you know there their progressive partisan Democrats, so 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: you know they have a political incentive to do this 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: that goes beyond just like how it helps Democrats and 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: how it helps their twenty twenty four position visa the 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Trump It's good politics in Manhattan, even if it's atrocious 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: law enforcement, it's good politics in Manhattan for Alvin Bragg 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: to do this. Hey, Andy, it's Buck. Do you think 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: that there's any chance at this point, given the delay, 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: that this could actually be averted. I've even seen some 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: analysts on CNN saying maybe Bragg doesn't have the stomach 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: for this after all. But as Clay and I can see, 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: there's really no And you kind of laid this out. 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: With the political situation in New York City and for 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: the District Attorney's office, there doesn't seem to be any 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: downside for Brad I mean downside for the rule of law, 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: et cetera. But for the DA himself. Do you think 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: do you think he's feeling the heat? Well, you know, 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: let's let's remember Buck, he did walk away from this 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: case once before, so it obviously does make him nervous. 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: A year ago he walked away from this case. And 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: it's important that people understand the Feds head this case. First. 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: My old office, that the Southern District of New York, 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: which famously does not give up cases that are attractive 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: cases to the district attorney's office or the federal prosecutors, 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: but they didn't want to touch this one. So I 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: think Brag has at least signaled that he appreciates this. 66 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Some downside, he could be very embarrassed if if Trumpet 67 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: were to get acquitted, But I think, you know, but 68 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: generally speaking, I think the politics favor gearging trump in 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: New York for an ambitious district attorney. How much he 70 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: would be humiliated if he lost the case, I don't know. 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: It's a weak case. It's obviously he's obviously looking at 72 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: it as a felony because he wouldn't need the grand 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: jury to indict a misdemeanor, so you only get grand 74 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: jury right as far as a felony prosecution's concern. But 75 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: they're clearly looking at this as a felony. But I 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: have to tell you I don't see it. I mean, 77 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm obviously he knows Bragging. His investigators know a lot 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: more than I do. And we'll have to see what 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: the crime looks like when when we get a look 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: at the indictment if we do. But you know, I'm 81 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm just not seeing it. What they're talking about here 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: is falsification of business records. I can see what he's 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: talking about there, although I still think it's not it's 84 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: anything but a slam dunk case. But the second thing 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: he'd have to show in order to get the felony 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: is that he'd have to prove beyond the reasonable doubt 87 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: that Trump intended to conceal another crime by falsifying the 88 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: business records. I don't see what the other crime is. 89 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I think it has to be a New York crime. 90 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't see another New York crime here. But more 91 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: to the point, I think the sensible interpretation of the 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: facts as we know them is that Trump probably didn't 93 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: want Milannia to find out that he entered a non 94 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: disclosure agreement with a porn star, and he didn't want 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: this to come out before the twenty sixteen election. Those 96 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: may be indecorous, but they're felonies. You know, they're not 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: another crime. And what would happen if Trump and I understand, 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think ultimately Trump didn't want 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Milannia to know, and so he signed this nondisclosure agreement. 100 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: It also implicated maybe the campaign. But what would happen 101 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: if Trump came out and said, hey, I'm apologized privately 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: to my wife. I was stupid. I had a one 103 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: time sexual event, you know, liaison with Stormy Daniels, and 104 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I was embarrassed by it, and so I decided that 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: I should uh that I didn't want that to go public. 106 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't that basically in this case? I mean because again no, Clay, No, 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: you know why because because then there's an intent. Okay, 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: so he's he's he's admitting to an intent. Then well, 109 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: but the other thing is to the theory that Bragg 110 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: is pursuing, it really doesn't matter whether the thing between 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Trump and Stormy Daniels happened or not. It's it's irrelevant. 112 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: What matters is how they booked the Yeah, and that's 113 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: where and that's where it gets interesting. Right because most 114 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: campaign finance law, and I studied it, I'm sure you've 115 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: prosecuted it is about keeping people from getting money from donors. Right, 116 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy myself a Lamborghini with my 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: campaign funds. Correct. In this situation, Trump actually gave away 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Like this is why it's so convoluted to even consider 119 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: it a campaign finance violation. In my mind, I'm curious 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen anything like this. Trump actually, in 121 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: this case gave away his own my understanding is personal money, 122 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: which is the exact opposite of what campaign finance laws 123 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: are designed to kind of police. Yeah, and there's a 124 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: good argument that it wasn't really campaign related, right, you know, 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: there's an argument that it was obviously, but I think 126 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: it'd be very difficult to prove that this was a 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: campaign finance violation. I think that's a large part of 128 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the reason the Southern District of New York, the federal 129 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: prosecutors walked away from it. But the other thing here is, 130 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, when the New York Statute says conceal another crime, 131 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: which is what a quote of what the statute says, 132 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: they have to be talking about a New York crime. 133 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we have to assume that in 134 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: the New York penal Code when they talk about another crime. 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: It's not like it's not a crime against Sharia, right, 136 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: not a crime against France. Right. I don't think a 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: federal crime, does it. I think it's going to be 138 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: in New York crime. Wow. Just so, just so I 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: can as the non lawyer here for a second. So 140 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: what you're saying is that the whole thing hinges on. 141 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: It seems that the can that the misrepresentation of how 142 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: these funds were spent to the only way it could 143 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: be considered a felony is if it's concealing a federal 144 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: crime that Trump has not been accused of, indicted for, etc. Right. 145 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: Is that so he's going out I think like it 146 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: would have to be a violation of New York state law, 147 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: right because this New York state. Uh No, But but 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: isn't the DA claiming that that he violated a federal 149 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: law by doing this? In the or is it he's 150 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: claiming that there's what what is the state law violation 151 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the campaign finance? Well this is important. 152 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we have we have to wait to see 153 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: the indictment to see what his theory is about what 154 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: the other times. But what I'm saying is if he 155 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: hangs his head on a federal crime, That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, 156 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is he's got a legal problem in 157 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: that I don't think a federal crime is eligible under 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the pri He can't cherry pick a federal statue to 159 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: justify the felony enhancement of the New York state crime 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: that he's alleging here right right by the way? Is 161 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: it here? This is like? Does Andy? They're indicting possibly 162 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: a former president over this? I mean this is crazy. Like, 163 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: just even this discussion shows how crazy it is. Yeah, 164 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: but again, you know, this almost brings us back to 165 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,479 Speaker 1: where we started. Right, it's crazy unless it's good politics 166 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: for a progressive in Manhattan. So what's the timeframe on you? Right? 167 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: It's nuts? What's the time frame on this? Andy? Because uh, 168 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Buck and I both think this benefits Trump politically, I 169 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: presume and I that this would take a while for 170 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the case to play itself out in your experience, and 171 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you may not even know because this is a hard thing. 172 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of precedent on this. We're now 173 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: sitting at almost April, right. The voting in Iowa starts 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: in January, and the primary season kicks into high gear 175 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: certainly by September or October, to the extent that it's 176 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: not already in high gear. What's the time frame on 177 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: a case like this, Yeah, and you know play. The 178 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: other thing is I've said again and again, you know 179 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: once the first prosecute across is the Rubicon. It's not 180 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: like this is the only case. Yeah, right. I mentioned 181 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that earlier giving you a site for that at Tension Riveted. Right. 182 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: There could be three other cases the role we know. 183 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: But what we understand is this is a Monday, Wednesday, 184 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Thursday grand jury that they meet in the afternoons of 185 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: those of those days of the week. So I think 186 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the earliest they could indict would be tomorrow. I think 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: it's probably more likely if they're going to indict this week, 188 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: it'll be Thursday. But we don't have any control over 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: that port and awareness and he can ask also because 190 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: you understand the processes here. There was some criticism coming 191 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: from the right of descantists over the week and people saying, well, 192 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: he should put out a statement that this is abuse 193 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: and that they're not going to extra diet. How does that? 194 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: What's the so what on whether the governor of Florida 195 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: can do anything to even slow or examine the process 196 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: of Trump being transferred up to New York. I mean, 197 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I assume Trump would surrender himself like how does that 198 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: all actually play out. So you have a right buck 199 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: if you get arrested in the United States and you're 200 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: an American citizen, you get let's say you get arrested 201 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: in or you get charged in State one, but you're 202 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: in State two. You have a right to fight extradition. 203 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: But it's pointless to do it because the law is 204 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: very clear. The states have mutual obligations to each other 205 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that people who've been charged are sent 206 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: to the place where they've been charged to appear. So 207 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: it's Trump could in theory fight it. DeSantis would be 208 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: nuts to get involved in this, not least because Florida 209 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: has a you know, his interest is not you know 210 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: what happens to Donald Trump. His image is being a 211 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: good interest is to be a good governor Florida. Florida's 212 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: a very important relations with the New York law enforcement people. 213 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, it goes both ways. So there's no reason. 214 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: This is why governors typically don't get involved in this stuff, 215 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: and he shouldn't get involved in this individual case other 216 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: than to do what he did yesterday, I think, which 217 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: is to criticize the nakedly partisan nature of what Bragg 218 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: is doing. But other than that, I wouldn't get involved 219 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: in it. I think you know, as you know Buck 220 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: as well as anyone you know, the NYPD and the 221 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Secret Service are very good police organizations, and they have 222 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: very good relations with each other. There's a lot of 223 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Secret Service protectees who spend a lot of time in 224 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: New York, so these guys coordinate all the time. So 225 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: I think you know, that's just where every listening. The 226 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: origins of the Intelligence Division, where I worked before the 227 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: nine to eleven year, was actually dealing with VIP protectees, 228 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: including Secret Service in New York City. Yep, yep. So 229 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: they work well together. You're not going to see Trump, 230 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: you like, cops come up to Trump and slap handcuffs 231 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: on him and dragoman. This is a non violent I 232 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: it kills me to even call us a crime, but 233 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: it's a non violent crime allegation. So what I imagine 234 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: will happen is the NYPD, the DA's Office, and the 235 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: Secret Service will arrange for Trump to surrender at some 236 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: point on the charge. This goes to what play was 237 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: talking about before. What happens from here they surrender, He'll 238 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: be processed like anyone else. I don't think they'll cuff him, 239 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: but he'll get fingerprinted and photographed. They'll bring him before 240 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: a judge for a quick hearing, probably enter a not 241 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: guilty plea. They won't be bailed because it's non violent. 242 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: He'll be released on his own recognizance, and then the 243 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: case will be assigned to a trial judge and they'll have, 244 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, pre trial motions. It's very congested in the 245 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: courts of New York City, so it maybe a long 246 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: time before they can schedule this. I really don't have 247 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: a good answer to the question of like, will it 248 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: be months from now, will it be you know, will 249 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: be sometime next year. I just I don't know when 250 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: they'll schedule this. It's a logistical nightmare obviously for the 251 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: cops in the Secret Service. You know, every time Trump's 252 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: going to have to come from Florida, appear to appear 253 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: in court, and then again you have the wildcard of 254 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: these other investigations, and if prosecutors file other indictments, then 255 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: these courts and prosecutors are going to have to get 256 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: together to figure out who goes first and on what schedule. 257 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: Andy quickly here do you think the Biden Department of 258 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Justice are they having private behind the scenes conversations with 259 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg, or are they terrified to have any connection 260 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: with him at all. I think it's more likely that 261 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: they're having behind the scenes conversations with Fanny Willis, who 262 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: is the prosecutor in Fulton County, because her case is 263 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: very important to their case, to the extent that they 264 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: want to do something on the twenty twenty election stuff. 265 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: What happened in Georgia. The witnesses to what happened in 266 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Georgia are critically important as far as Bragg's thing is concerned. 267 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: To me, this is such a weak case that the 268 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Southern District of New York already walked away from it. 269 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: If I'm the fence, I wouldn't want to have a 270 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: thing to do with this because if it turns out 271 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: that it's a disaster of a case and it blows up, 272 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: they don't want to They don't want their fingerprints on 273 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: this at all. They want to be able to say, look, 274 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: this is why we didn't bring this case in the 275 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: first place. Andy, keep that phone notifications turned on, because 276 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, at any moment, your phone's gonna blow up, 277 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: like it's probably never blown up before. Yeah, Well, you know, 278 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's another fifteen minutes for me, right, I 279 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: could play congrats on that thirtieth anniversary. Yeah, thanks Andy, 280 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Always appreciate you, buddy. Congrats. Well, we've talked about how 281 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: huge asset managers names you know, are using your retirement 282 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: funds to further their ESG agenda. In this economy, you 283 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: don't need those companies playing politics with your retirement funds. 284 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: You want solid investments that maximize your returns. Last year, 285 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: state treasurers across the nation send a message to stop 286 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: playing politics with pensions by divesting five billion dollars from 287 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: some of these companies, and twenty five states are suing 288 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: to block this nonsense of ESG from endangering your hard 289 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: earned funds. Republicans on Capitol Hill, well they just passed 290 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: the bill blocking the Biden administration from allowing these asset 291 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: managers from using your money to further their esg's agenda. 292 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: And guess what President Biden vetoed it. These firms have 293 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: a fiduciary duty to maximize returns. They should be held 294 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: accountable for playing politics with our pins and doing it 295 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: without our consent. To learn how Consumers Research is protecting 296 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: all of us from these woke investment firms go to 297 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: consumers or research dot org. That's consumers research dot org. 298 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 299 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay an Buck. We got a lot 300 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: coming up in the back half of this hour. Final 301 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: hour of the show. Talk to you about the descantist 302 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: versus from situation. Also, Clay needs to be able to 303 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: take a shot at a crack at the videos of 304 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: Fauci going around Anacostia in twenty twenty one. Sure getting 305 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: getting schooled by the folks of Anacostia in a number 306 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: of videos, So we'll discuss that. And also some vip 307 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: emails who are telling us that ELSI is an amazing 308 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: movie play. How about that, Charlton Heston, Sophia Loren. The 309 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: fact that our audience knows el said and not Morgan 310 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Wallen is my mind is blown. Although the staff, to 311 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: be fair, none of them knew it. So I had 312 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: a great time with my brothers at the gun range 313 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: just past weekend. The gear was fantastic and my aim 314 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: was spot on. It was a solid day. Part of 315 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: the reason for this positive experience was my dry fire 316 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: practice at home. 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I think it's worth mentioning that 335 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: Iowa the caucuses are going to be I think like 336 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: at January sixth, super early in the year and We're 337 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna be really full on campaign season before long. And 338 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: already we're having the shadow primary where RHN De Santis 339 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: has not yet announced, and Trump has been taking shots 340 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: at DeSantis. And we told you and have been saying 341 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: for a long time that we think this is going 342 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: to turn into a pretty nasty primary battle. And DeSantis 343 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: was asked about Trump potentially getting indicted. You heard Andy McCarthy. 344 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: I thought he answered that question really interestingly. There's some 345 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: people out there who were saying, well, Ron De Santis 346 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: should say I'm not going to extradite Trump to New 347 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: York to face charges, and Annie McCarthy said, from a 348 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: legal perspective, there is no basis whatsoever to handle that. 349 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: But De Santis is getting attacked by the Trump campaign 350 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: and Trump surrogates for this answer that I wanted to 351 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: play for you about the Trump in indictment. Let's play 352 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: cut twenty four here. We are not involved in this, 353 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: won't be involved in this. I have no interest in 354 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: getting involved in some type of manufactured circus by some 355 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: Soros Da. Okay, he's trying to do a political spectacle. 356 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: He's trying to virtue signal for his base. I've got 357 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: real issues I got to deal with here in the 358 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: state of Florida, where obviously he was shutting down CBDC, 359 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: which is important. We've got so many things pending in 360 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: front of the legislature. I've got to spend my time 361 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: on issues that actually matter to people. I can't spend 362 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: my time were about things of that nature. So so 363 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: we're not going to be involved in it in any way. 364 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm fighting for Floridians and I'm fighting back against Biden. 365 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: That's what I do every single day. Okay, So, basically 366 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: De santa is saying I don't want to get involved 367 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: in any case between New York and Donald Trump, even 368 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: though Trump obviously is a resident of the state of Florida. 369 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Your take on that, take Buck, because De Santas is 370 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: getting attacked for saying, basically, I've got more important things 371 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: to focus on than Donald Trump's legal issues. Well, I 372 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: think that to be honest in assessing the whole embrolio. 373 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: There you go, Clay, I think that's Italian. It's one 374 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite words, right, fantastic words, good word. The 375 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: silence what we end up battling over on a day 376 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: to day basis in the country, it's it embro Leo. 377 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: So with the whole situation, you have to remember that 378 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: that De santi said this, said it's a sham, said 379 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: it's you know nuts, basically what's going on with Trump? 380 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: And then Trump put out this this truth social Uh, 381 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what you call a truth not a tweet, 382 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: but I was I was wanting to say a tweet, 383 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: but it's a truth. It's not a tweet where he 384 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: said something about you know, De Santists, and well, you 385 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: know what, let me I'll read I'm pulling it up right. 386 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: You should read this to the audience because because I 387 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: think we got to go on the uh, you know, 388 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: we got we got to be very specific about what 389 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: was said here and and what the realities are of 390 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: um of Trump's response to all of this, because you know, 391 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: I thought that the Santists what he said made perfect sense. Look, 392 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: he may be running against this guy. I think it's 393 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: asking a lot to expect him to, you know, go 394 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: to the mat on this issue, especially when there isn't 395 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: even an issue yet. You have it, go ahead, Yeah, 396 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: this is what Trump put out basically a little about 397 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: twenty hours ago. Ron dysanctimonious is dropping in the polls 398 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: so fast he soon maybe falling behind young Vivic Ramaswamy. 399 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: People are beginning to find out Ron mud and then 400 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of attacks he also put out and 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to see if he's deleted it. Since Ay, 402 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: that's by the way, that is fair that that sweet 403 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: of the truth that you read. That's fair game. And 404 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: we've said this so along. Here's here's okay, read the 405 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: other one. Ron dysanctimonious will probably find out about false 406 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: accusations and fake story sometime in the future as he 407 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: gets older, wiser and better known. When he's unfairly and 408 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are quote 409 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: underage or possibly a man exclamation point, I'm sure he 410 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: will want to fight these misfits just like I do. 411 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: And again he posted a photo of DeSantis with alleged 412 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: high school like a high school graduation party. Okay, so 413 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: now I know I've I've heard from It's so funny 414 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: men too, because I get I'm sure you have this 415 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: as well in the media. You know, quietly behind the scenes, 416 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: I got super Trump people that text me with outreach 417 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: and they want me to yell at the descentists people 418 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: that they think are and it's not even declared yet. 419 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: Like you tell, you tell those guys you know and 420 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you know who love descentist they need to blah. And 421 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: it's funny because the descentist people coming in there, like 422 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: can you tell the Trump people that we're trying to 423 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: save the country and they need to stop being crazy. 424 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, this is all media behind the scenes for everybody. 425 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: But but I get it from both sides. I get 426 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: it coming from both sides. Ridge, I think is a 427 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: good things. It means they all feel like, well, I'm 428 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: trying to be a somewhat honest broker in you know, 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: within this Donnie brook Clay that is happening within the 430 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: Republican Party. But I've just got to say, you know, 431 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: the tweet, whatever the truth that you were reading about 432 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: criticizing descentists on medicare, on policy, on lack of that's 433 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: all fair game. Okay, Yeah, that's you know, whether it's 434 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: true or not or fair I mean fair meaning you know, 435 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: accurate or not. But now here's where the Trump stuff 436 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: gets interesting. Trump people are saying, he didn't say that 437 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna make these allegations. He's just saying somebody else will. Well, 438 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: they're already are rumors flying that part of the Trump 439 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: surrogate or of Trump influencer plant is going to be 440 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: to work with the left wing media to plant stories 441 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: about desantists involving not you know whether he supports raising 442 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: the retirement age, but you know, allegations of some kind 443 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: of a sexual nature. And I'm just gonna say this, 444 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't care who the candidate is. I don't care 445 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: who the human being is or what the situation if somebody, 446 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: if I see someone trying to kavanaw somebody, I go, 447 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: I will go to the mattress. I lose my mind. 448 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: That is absolutely that was a set that was a 449 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: political sea change moment for a lot of us. That 450 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: is not going to fly. Now. Maybe it is just 451 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: coming from a left wing media, and that's but I'm saying, 452 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: you lie about somebody's passing that way to destroy them 453 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: and destroy them in front of their family and everything else. 454 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Any decent person has to rally to that individual side. 455 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I think that's true. I also 456 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: think it increasingly doesn't work like this idea of the 457 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: politics of personal destruction. To Trump's credit, he fought through 458 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: basically every allegation that could ever be thrown at a politician. 459 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: He's been accused of. He was accused of rape by 460 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Egene Carroll. Yeah so, and by the way, Bill Clinton, 461 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: also on the other side, fought through every possible accusation, 462 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: including rape and admitting to having an affair with a 463 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: White House in turn, which if this happened today, you know, 464 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Al Franken lost his job buck because there was a 465 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: funny photo of him in his mind, like with a 466 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: sleeping woman on an airplane craft where he was pretending 467 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: like he was grabbed her boobs, right like that photo 468 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: was taken twenty some odd years ago. Democrats forced him 469 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: out of the Senate over that twenty years twenty five 470 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: years ago, they defended Bill Clinton's ability to lie about 471 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: having an affair with an intern. Okay, so the progression 472 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: on this has changed to some extent. But I also 473 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: think what it represents is so much of this politics 474 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: of personal destruction is venal and rejected by many out there. 475 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: That's true, but I would I would, I would agree 476 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: with that. I would also put in there, you know, 477 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: you don't expect Republicans to make accusations, and I want 478 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: to be clear, Trump did not, although he has said 479 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: he has made some weird comments about this in the past, 480 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: specifically the de Santists. You know, I mean he's posted 481 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: the photos saying that the girls were underage and the 482 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Santis was a groomer. I means, yes, he's called him 483 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: the groomer. Thank you, That's what I was like that. 484 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: So he's he's basically made this allegation of public So I 485 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: I don't think that this most recent truth. Sorry me 486 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: just also say, it's not grooming to be twenty three 487 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: and potentially you can argue about how old you should be, 488 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: but the girls are like eighteen years old, right, Like 489 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: grooming is an insult for people that are clearly under 490 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: eight to five. That a people who groom like somebody 491 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: who's twenty two or twenty three and dates an eighteen 492 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: year old girl is not grooming. Or by the way, 493 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: vice versa, if it's an eighteen year old, you know, 494 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: boy dating at twenty three year I mean that well, 495 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: but you just laid out is called the college senior 496 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: dating a college freshman, which if that's grooming, you've got 497 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people going to prison 498 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: all over the country. Um, but so you know that 499 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: that look, that's cheap shot stuff. That's what this comes 500 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: down to. And I know people are saying, oh, you 501 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: gotta be ready for whatever. I mean, you know, if 502 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: republic you expect different things within the same party, then 503 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: then you do from the other side, you know, And 504 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe people want to abandon that. But all I can 505 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: tell you is the Democrats, well, anyone who would work 506 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: with left wing media to destroy a Republican contender in 507 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: the primary against them with lies that are obvious to them. 508 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I do think you're able to ask, like, what, really, 509 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: this is a person you'd want it now, We'll see 510 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: what happens. Here's what I would say on the DeSantis response. Buck. 511 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I know it's tough if somebody accuses you of being 512 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: a groomer. To take the high road, I would just say, again, 513 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: the person who has done the best at dealing with 514 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Trump and the antipathy that he's brought to bear, Brian Kemp, 515 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Governor of Georgia, how did he run? He said he's 516 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: mad at me. I'm not mad at him. If DeSantis 517 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: comes out aggressively in the event that Trump has charged 518 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: I believe he should say, look, this is one hundred 519 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: percent wrong. I don't care if this was Jimmy Carter 520 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: getting charged. I don't care if this was Bill Clinton. 521 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't care if this was George W. Bush. The 522 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: precedent of charging a former president by an opposing political 523 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: party is unacceptable. Trump and I have our differences. He's 524 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: mad at me. I'm not mad at him. I will 525 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: defend him to the full extent of my ability, and 526 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: I think every Republican should. That's me off the cuff. 527 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: That's the right response, in my opinion, for to sciantists. 528 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: Not I've got more serious things to worry about, because 529 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: this is a pretty serious intent. Getting into Getting into 530 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: the mud with a mud slinger is not a good 531 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: idea if you can avoid it. So that's pretty straightforward. 532 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: We'll come back with more on this. We'll close out 533 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: the show here in a second eight two two to 534 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: eight A two. If you've got any thoughts on any 535 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: of this, let us know. Yesterday was the first day 536 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: of spring, and for a lot of people that means 537 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: it's time to do some spring cleaning. 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Find the guys 565 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 566 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Closing up shop today on Clay and Buck, which means 567 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: it's a great time to tell you all to subscribe 568 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: to the Clay and Buck podcast. We've got Sunday hangs there, 569 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: deep dive interviews with folks that you'll know from the show, 570 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and a lot that you want. A lot of first 571 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: timers coming in there too. And we have an exciting announcement. 572 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: We have officially launched our podcast network. The Clay and 573 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: Buck podcast feed will be featuring some new voices. We've 574 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: got the debut of the Tutor Dickson podcast. Many of 575 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: you will remember her as the gubernatorial candidate from Michigan. 576 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: She's the first and what's going to be many conservative podcasts. 577 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: We welcome on board our unsingable aircraft carrier of free speech. 578 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: Here's a clip from tutors first episode talking about firearms 579 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: with instructor Rick Ector, who she met at the campaign 580 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: trail at one of his free gun training sessions for women. 581 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: It was probably one of the most nerve wracking moments 582 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: of my campaign for me because Rick offers free gun 583 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: training for women, and I'm going to confess I had 584 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: never shot a gun before that day. But turns out 585 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I was exactly who Rick was looking for, because he 586 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: wants women to feel confident that they can protect themselves, 587 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and that day I lined up with hundreds of women 588 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: in the Detroit area to learn more about how to 589 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: use a gun safely. The reason I want you to 590 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: meet Rick is because his story really touched me. It's raw, 591 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: it's true life, it's kind of superhero in the making 592 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: type of stuff. And Rick is an awesome guy. He's 593 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: not arrogant, he's not forcing other people to be on 594 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: his side, but his life changed in a moment, and 595 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: he used that experience to help others learn to defend themselves. 596 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: Whatever you think about guns, I think you're going to 597 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: find Rick's story very interesting. Yeah, I think that she's 598 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: going to be a great voice Clay on the network. 599 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: We're excited to have her. We've got some other folks 600 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: that we're hoping to launch in the weeks and months ahead, 601 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: and so the clan Buck podcast feed is really just 602 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: going to be your one stop shop for listening to 603 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: this show, but also a lot of great original content, 604 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: including some new, great original hosts. No doubt, we're on 605 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: three hours every single day talking about and fighting battles 606 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: about issues that matter. But we also understand that the 607 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: way that people consume content has never been more rapidly evolving, 608 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: and so we love the tens of millions of you 609 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: who download the podcast may never listen on a traditional 610 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: radio show. We've got almost five hundred affiliates right now. 611 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: We love all of you listening on traditional radio. We 612 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: want to be able to expand our universe and influence 613 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: as many people as possible. And for all of you 614 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: out there listening, grandparents, parents, I know some of you 615 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: are younger, but you've got to go to where the 616 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: audience is. And it's fantastic if you're seventy five and 617 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: you've been listening to Rush for thirty plus years and 618 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: you still listen to us, and we love you, and 619 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, but you're probably if you're seventy five, 620 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: looking around wondering where the country is going, and recognizing 621 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: that you've got to influence the hearts and minds of 622 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: people that are a lot younger than you. And one 623 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: way we're going to do that is by expanding our 624 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: universe through the podcast and our different partnerships. Absolutely all 625 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: the all the graphics, all the data you can see 626 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: for the younger generations gen Z And do we know 627 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: what does something come after gen Z? Yet? You know, 628 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: I think that's my kids. Yeah, I'm trying to think 629 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: of what generation those kids, my kids are in. I 630 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: was actually looking this up the other day. But they 631 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: are in the post gen Z universe, post gen Z. 632 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: They gotta get a better name than that. Well, I know, 633 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't even know what they're I think 634 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: it's like the well, I don't even know. I can't, 635 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: I can't, but I'll know by tomorrow. I would say, 636 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: go with the omega, you know, like Alpha to oma. Yes, 637 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: that's there will be a generation after them, so that 638 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't actually make any sense. By the way, Jen Alpha 639 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: is what they're called. Is that really true? Yeahoh oh, Okay, 640 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: so we got a lot of time before we get 641 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: to Omega. Then, for those who know the Greek alphabet, um, yeah. Look, 642 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I think it's important to push them into that digital space, 643 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: and I like, we want to keep growing. And one 644 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: thing we don't really bring up that often, but any 645 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: of you who are listening, Um, I had someone company 646 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the Jim just the other day and he heard, you know, 647 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: I think he heard you want a podcast, and then 648 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: he tried our radio show and now he's a daily 649 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: podcast and radio listener. You know. But however, you can 650 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: tell folks about what we're doing. If you're a daily listener, 651 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: you appreciate what we do. The best possible way for 652 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: this show to grow is for you to tell somebody, hey, 653 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: I really like the show. You should check it out. 654 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: That's that's the single thing that helps us more than 655 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: anything else. Word of mouth, single best and most valuable advertising. 656 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I want to hit vip email or Kendra, 657 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: she's a unicorn. Guys I know and listen to Morgan 658 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Wallen on country radio. And because my husband is a 659 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: history nerd, I've seen el sid. I think this should 660 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: warrant me some kind of super listener status. Or something 661 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: just for knowing both of those references. Love listening to 662 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: y'all every day, Kendra in that tiny little Vin diagram 663 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: of El Sid and Morgan Wallen fans Vamos, El SidD, Slay, Travis, 664 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.