WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 115 | Takeaways After Jaguars Fall to Lions, Bye Week on the Horizon

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I can't I can't control of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know, listen, I've been I've been around

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<v Speaker 1>this league a long time, and you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, it's gonna happen, obviously. But but at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I still have a job to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and that's to you know, you know, get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a you know, a good division opponent here in

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to jag Xam.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kaanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with

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<v Speaker 3>me this morning. That's head coach Doug Peterson responding to

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<v Speaker 3>questions about his coaching future as things go forward with

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<v Speaker 3>this team. A absolutely terrible performance against the Lines. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna start up with big things, which is effort list

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<v Speaker 3>the worst loss in franchise history. Brian, there's rumors, there's

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<v Speaker 3>reports about Doug Peterson going forward with this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing official at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>When we talk about effort, we didn't see any of

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<v Speaker 3>it in that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember when I made the case that the

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<v Speaker 4>Bills Monday Night lost was the worst loss in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not remembering that either.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no argument this is the most humbling, the most embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 4>the most difficult loss for anyone to swallow, and the

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<v Speaker 4>rumors that were swirling before the wolves are howling at

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<v Speaker 4>the door right now. And it doesn't surprise Doug. He's

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<v Speaker 4>been around this, and it doesn't surprise all the assistant

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<v Speaker 4>coaches who have to deal with it. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make it any easier, John, because the Lions they ran

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<v Speaker 4>a hook and ladder play. Those are at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the game, right that's when you're trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>back into the game. They were beating you twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>to three and it was the second quarter, and they

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<v Speaker 4>did it because they said, we can do anything we

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<v Speaker 4>want today. And that's what it felt like that the

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<v Speaker 4>Jaguars were hapless. And you know, thirty years of covering

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<v Speaker 4>this football team, they've been bad at times, but hapless

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<v Speaker 4>is not.

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<v Speaker 5>A word I've ever used to describe them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they've had bad games, bad seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>I know a by Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>Your wife's in real estate, so they know about comps.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard to find a market comp for this. It's

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<v Speaker 6>they scored every time they tried to score.

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<v Speaker 5>The Lions did.

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<v Speaker 6>And not only it wasn't big plays early, it was

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna get eight and seven and eight. It looked

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<v Speaker 6>like a JV team playing its varsity team, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>not supposed to happen in the NFL. It was ridiculous

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<v Speaker 6>and anything more. But like I was thinking about what we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna say on the show ran and it's it's hard

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<v Speaker 6>because the performance spoke for itself. Anything we say is

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<v Speaker 6>sort of piling on. Well, it's obvious you can't I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know that you can lose worse than that.

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<v Speaker 5>The score can be worse.

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<v Speaker 6>But I've never seen anything like it, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>sure what else I'm gonna say for a half hour,

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<v Speaker 6>but we'll give it a whirl. I've got one more

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<v Speaker 6>thing I want to add to this kind, and that

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<v Speaker 6>is you watch their offensive line, and they were always

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<v Speaker 6>four yards past the line of scrimmage involved in the play.

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<v Speaker 6>They play at a completely different level than we have

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<v Speaker 6>seen the Jaguars play at in all of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 6>They are impressive to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I said last week, I think that the

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<v Speaker 4>Lions are the best team in the NFL. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>watched some of that Chiefs Bills game yesterday. The Lions

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<v Speaker 4>are the best team in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not close. Let's go to our second big thing,

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<v Speaker 3>which is three and out again. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>our best effort to keep talking about this. John, I

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<v Speaker 3>know you love it. We talked about this offense getting

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<v Speaker 3>slow starts, but the last two weeks with Mac Jones

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<v Speaker 3>at quarterback, you've seen what Trevor Lawrence has been able

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<v Speaker 3>to do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I already thought what.

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<v Speaker 3>Trevor was doing was impressive, and now when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what they've done the last two weeks, you realize

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing a lot for this offense.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a starting quarterback. He's good, he's a sending all

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<v Speaker 6>the stuff we talked about, and Ma's a backup, and

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<v Speaker 6>there are certain throws. It appears for the last two

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<v Speaker 6>weeks that the defense doesn't have to respect downfield, and

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<v Speaker 6>then when he does go downfield, the result has been interceptions.

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<v Speaker 6>So I never really thought that there was a question.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, when Trevor was quote struggling, Oh, let's try

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<v Speaker 6>Eimac to Trevor is the starting quarterback. And I guess

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<v Speaker 6>for people outside the team, the statistics are so stark

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<v Speaker 6>the difference that they realize it now. But it was

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<v Speaker 6>never a question here.

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<v Speaker 4>Trevor is a starting quarterback. You have to help him.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to build a better offensive line for him.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to be able to run the ball better

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<v Speaker 4>for him to be as good as he wants to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And you obviously have got to figure out something on defense.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a long laundry list. Three and out again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's become their personality kind that when you need the

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<v Speaker 4>offense to give the defense a break, just go and

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<v Speaker 4>control the ball for a few minutes. They go three

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<v Speaker 4>and out after each of the Lions' first two touchdown drives,

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<v Speaker 4>and there were seven consecutive, which still baggles my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>The offense goes three and outs. Part of that is

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<v Speaker 5>play calling.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of it is execution, but that the third part

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<v Speaker 4>of it is it's it's become who this offense is.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't good the last month, early in the first

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<v Speaker 4>half of any of those games. But if Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 4>is in there, at least you think you have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't yesterday ran You talk about how the lines

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<v Speaker 3>make everything look easy, the Jaguars make everything look difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our final big thing today as we look at

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<v Speaker 3>how difficult things work for the defense. Josh Heinz Allen

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<v Speaker 3>talked after.

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<v Speaker 5>The game, today was not our day.

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<v Speaker 7>Moving forward, man, I think we have a better message

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<v Speaker 7>going tomorrow. Right now, everybody's lost for words, trying to

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<v Speaker 7>figure out what to say, what what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What it is is?

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<v Speaker 7>You know right now it's point it's it's it's almost

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<v Speaker 7>like point the finger. But instead of us getting to

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<v Speaker 7>that point, we just need to not be emotional. Wait

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<v Speaker 7>till tomorrow, watch the tape, triggure out what it is

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<v Speaker 7>and move forward from there and uh, then we can

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<v Speaker 7>talk about what the heck cammunity to do better. But again,

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<v Speaker 7>like I said, Earl, today was.

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<v Speaker 5>Not our day.

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<v Speaker 2>Ermy today was yesterday. It was not their day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's for Suair Brian and talk about loss for words,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure something out. We know things aren't working

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, and I don't know if we have

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<v Speaker 3>the words either, but we're gonna try.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, people want someone fired, they want someone cut. The

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<v Speaker 4>problem with that is is not starting, it's stopping. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>because you can point the finger of blame across so

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<v Speaker 4>many different places that aren't working. The defensive line, the

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<v Speaker 4>interior of the defensive line was on its back all

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<v Speaker 4>day long, all day long. The corners, I mean, looks

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<v Speaker 4>that passing attack is outstanding and the league is set

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<v Speaker 4>up for the passing attack.

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<v Speaker 5>Those corners were just where to go? Where do who go?

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing on offense, the offensive line couldn't move anybody

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<v Speaker 4>off the ball on third down and short the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just that's the problem right now, is that

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<v Speaker 4>the Jaguars lack something John that they can absolutely say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we can do this. We can always count on being

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<v Speaker 4>able to throw the ball to Evan in room or

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<v Speaker 4>create some room for Traves Etn to find a cutback

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<v Speaker 4>lane and great, you know, game three or four yards,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just left with a pile of what is this?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they did get the ball to BTJ yesterday, so okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a bright spot for the future. Earlier. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>at all saying you shouldn't got the ball to BTJ,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's so hard to find. It's not even a

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<v Speaker 6>silver Lions. It's okay, they did it. Look it's it's uh.

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<v Speaker 6>I I think shod Con has to be careful. This

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<v Speaker 6>is such a rain of sadness or of criticism, that's

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<v Speaker 6>to be careful let's not do anything based on that,

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<v Speaker 6>right and not. This is why owners don't make quick

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<v Speaker 6>Hey I'm gonna do this right now. So I get

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<v Speaker 6>why there was nothing done last night after the game

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<v Speaker 6>post game every fans right all, why haven't they been

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<v Speaker 6>fired yet? He has to be measured and he has

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<v Speaker 6>to decide what's best long term. So I our emotion

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<v Speaker 6>is sort of what caused me to think that way.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, Hey, don't make emotional decisions, be measured and

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<v Speaker 6>make sure you do it's best for the franchis.

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<v Speaker 5>You still have six games to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, I mean, if you start just throwing people out,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to be functional. And John bears noting you

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<v Speaker 4>want your quarterback because you expect that Trevor Lawrence might

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<v Speaker 4>be back in two weeks and Brian Thomas Junior and

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<v Speaker 4>Tank Bigsby. You want some of these young players to

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<v Speaker 4>make the most of the final six weeks, to come

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<v Speaker 4>away with some development, some things that you can feel

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<v Speaker 4>good about. I know that seems ridiculous after fifty two

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<v Speaker 4>to six, but you got six more games in seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>If you just say, you know, push the button, pulled

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<v Speaker 4>the rip cord, everyone's out or at least key players.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you risk the development of some of these guys

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<v Speaker 4>at least not taking advantage of it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well said better than I said.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate Brian's words always sure. Stay with us here

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<v Speaker 2>on Jagsam. Brian's gonna talk some more. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>some more. Well, we'll all talk it out together. Stay

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<v Speaker 3>z Am today. A very tough one to watch yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna talk this all out. Maybe have a

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<v Speaker 3>little therapy session.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, Rosie, who gets some laid back on the couch.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're all we m we all might need

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<v Speaker 3>a break at some point today, So let's talk this out. Brian, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>John and I got the pleasure of watching this in person.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to watch this at home.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna run through everything because I don't particularly

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<v Speaker 3>wanna watch it all again, but let's start with I

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<v Speaker 3>think this drive specifically is the second touchdown drive for

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<v Speaker 3>the Lions. Showed a little bit of everything, and it

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<v Speaker 3>showed me how well this team has been built. John

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<v Speaker 3>audibly reacting when we saw this run from Montgomery off

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<v Speaker 3>the top. I believe it was and just they could

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever they wanted and in every aspect of the game.

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<v Speaker 6>Well there I got right key plays for every game.

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<v Speaker 6>And what struck me yesterday and writing about this when

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<v Speaker 6>the game was in the balance, Brian, there were no

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<v Speaker 6>key plays, No, it was just I wondered how you

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<v Speaker 6>were going to do eight. It was just devastating drives.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very rare to go to length of the field

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<v Speaker 6>and then run the ball into the end zone inside

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<v Speaker 6>the ten, just at will, and it's because usually the

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<v Speaker 6>other team will stop you and force throws for some creativity.

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<v Speaker 6>This was just doing this right, I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 6>just I am better than you are. And really that's

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<v Speaker 6>the analysis of the game. Everything else we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>talking about is sort of filling air, right, because that

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<v Speaker 6>was the difference. So stark of this is a better,

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<v Speaker 6>more physical team and therefore they did what they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, and then the Jaguars compounded it with and we

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<v Speaker 4>saw in that whole.

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<v Speaker 5>Series horrible tackling.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Ronald Darby had a shot at form tackling,

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<v Speaker 4>breaking down and taking Montgomery down for probably a two

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<v Speaker 4>yard gain, and it turned out to be a nine

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<v Speaker 4>yard game because he went in there with one arm out.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you haven't played football, you know you're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna tackle an NFL running back with one arm.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what also struck you, right, I mean interrupt. It

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<v Speaker 6>was fifty two to six, and turnovers were not a

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<v Speaker 6>factor though, Yeah, Ryons forced one turnover, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>on the Jaguars, like what I mean, it was on

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<v Speaker 6>their own like two or three. There was no field

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<v Speaker 6>position flip. It was just we got the ball at

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<v Speaker 6>the twenty five and now we're gonna go down score.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I'm the head coach and I'm meeting with

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<v Speaker 4>my defensive coordinator today, and I would be meeting with

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<v Speaker 4>my defensive coordinator today, I'm looking at these drives. There

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<v Speaker 4>was one drive I think it was fifty four yards

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<v Speaker 4>and every other one was seventy yards or longer, including

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<v Speaker 4>two that were ninety yards or longer. It was just

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<v Speaker 4>they did anything they want. At one point they ran

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<v Speaker 4>the hook in the ladder in the second quarter. It

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<v Speaker 4>was as if they were laughing at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a look at that hooking ladder, right, don't.

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<v Speaker 5>We I figured that was going to be on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, just misdirection plays, just doing whatever they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do. I think third or fourth touchdown. Hard

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<v Speaker 3>to keep track at this point, but yeah, they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they wanted and that was not great to see

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<v Speaker 3>and just and for me, it was we'd seen a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of effort out of everybody for the last month

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<v Speaker 3>or so, even with the dire situation that they were in.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had seen them be in these games and

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<v Speaker 3>one possession games. This was not even close to that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was clear from the jump that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all had a little feeling going in.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the Lions are one of, if not the best

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<v Speaker 3>team in the league. But just see no resistance whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was I think obviously the team felt

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<v Speaker 3>that too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I think once I don't think you go

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<v Speaker 6>in planning to have it be that way. It struck

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<v Speaker 6>you as a game where they went down and got

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<v Speaker 6>the early field goal, Okay, well here we go, and

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<v Speaker 6>then the defense it just felt like collectively realized on

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<v Speaker 6>the first drive, Oh, they're going to do this, and

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere that three percent of you gets a little bit deflated.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's all it takes in this league. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't believe NFL players quit, but I

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<v Speaker 6>do believe that they can lose their will a bit.

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<v Speaker 6>And it looked like it lost its will yesterday. That's

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<v Speaker 6>just watching it. And I don't know how you interpret

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<v Speaker 6>what happened on the field yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I couldn't interpret it because I wasn't there. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take you this their offensive line, and we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to stop talking about this game, I think today. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let me hit this with a hammer as

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<v Speaker 4>hard as I can. Their offensive line is so much

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<v Speaker 4>more physical. They play right on the edge of the whistle.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a nastiness that brings in the personality of

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Campbell, and the Jaguars had no resistance whatsoever. I

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<v Speaker 4>watched Devon Hamilton two weeks ago in Philadelphia play maybe

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<v Speaker 4>his best game, not just this year, but of his career.

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<v Speaker 4>He was so disrupted in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that's a good sign. Yesterday it was he

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<v Speaker 4>was literally like a blocking sled and just pushed any

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<v Speaker 4>which way and not by an all pro guard, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't mean to just single him out, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was just so obvious that a guy who had

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<v Speaker 4>played so well two weeks ago didn't have the resistance

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<v Speaker 4>in two weeks time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's extra frustrating for fans. I dare to

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<v Speaker 3>speak for them that to see the lines put this

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<v Speaker 3>together in the same amount of time that the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>have been trying to rebuild themselves as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Just throwing a massive log on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>But it hurts extra when you see it because you're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>they've had three years to do so look what they

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<v Speaker 3>have built in that time, Look what they've drafted. Look

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<v Speaker 3>the culture of that team, and you see it and

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<v Speaker 3>it works so well, and you just want it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think going forward, at least for us, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to look at who we want and who we

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<v Speaker 3>want to build around, you know, effort, right, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>watching this team blow out the Jaguars. Ventral Miller diving

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<v Speaker 3>to save this play that we're going to see here

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<v Speaker 3>gives with that huge run. That's someone we talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to look for a silver lining. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at who I want to build with. Watching that game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so easy to give up on that. But to

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<v Speaker 3>see someone put an effort like that.

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<v Speaker 5>He's listen, he is terrific.

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<v Speaker 4>I started making a list of the guys that I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to carry forward, and there were ten that I

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<v Speaker 4>was really excited about, which maybe more than the average

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<v Speaker 4>listener the viewer this morning is thinking about. But there

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<v Speaker 4>are some good players on this roster who have been

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<v Speaker 4>lost in the wash of a season that is just

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely gone. Andre Miller runs and hits and makes plays.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if he doesn't dive, this is a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>If he doesn't get him off his feet, Jamior Gibbs

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<v Speaker 4>scores on that play, they ended up scoring anyway. But

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<v Speaker 4>Ventre Miller is a terrific football player, and.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, that's the focus. That's someone you want on

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<v Speaker 3>your team. That's someone he would thrive on a Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Campbells team. He's someone that is that same sort of energy,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what you need.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen, this football team needs.

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<v Speaker 6>More of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, yeah, a lot more.

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to think of the right way to

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<v Speaker 5>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, We're not gonna watch any more of this

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't think anybody is going to enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are going to come back after this break

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<v Speaker 3>talk about our hot takes and what we think going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>takes today. I don't know how hot they're going to be,

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<v Speaker 3>at least give you some sort of entertainment. So, Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>what is your hot?

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<v Speaker 4>Was in my game up in an emotional homeward because

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<v Speaker 4>it's important to know that the last three weeks, right

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<v Speaker 4>against the Packers, Eagles, and Vikings, I wouldn't have said

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<v Speaker 4>this because it looked like the Jaguars were just not

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<v Speaker 4>as good as those teams and they lost close games.

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<v Speaker 4>But yesterday I felt as if the Jaguars didn't belong

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<v Speaker 4>on the same field with the Lions, and clearly the

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<v Speaker 4>score would indicate that they do not. Now, if Trevor plays,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe you're better than fifty two to six,

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<v Speaker 4>but what is it fifty two to twenty four. If

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<v Speaker 4>this was a premier league, the Jaguars would be in

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<v Speaker 4>danger of relegation because yesterday it just looked like they

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<v Speaker 4>were playing against was it Manchester United or man City?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the best of the best, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>not up to the challenge whatsoever. The Jaguars are lucky

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<v Speaker 4>that the NFL doesn't have a second tier.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and they relegate the last three teams, and right

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<v Speaker 6>now this is the last team, so I expect that

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<v Speaker 6>could change, but right now they're they're there. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>very creative, but my hot take was it's as bad

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<v Speaker 6>as it gets.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's I said that last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, but John is.

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<v Speaker 6>My point is, you can't get be worse than this.

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<v Speaker 6>In the NFL. They scored every time they tried to score,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you had a fifty nine yard field goal

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<v Speaker 6>which got credit to Cam literally hit it, but one

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<v Speaker 6>of your points you needed a franchise record long field goal.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's I'm not even in the mood to hammer

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<v Speaker 6>it anymore. It was a ridiculously bad performance, and I

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<v Speaker 6>mean it's I'm not sure where you go from.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's where we could both be wrong and it

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<v Speaker 4>could be worse. Is you don't get Trevor Lawrence back

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<v Speaker 4>and against the softer part of your schedule, right, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the Jets and the Titans and the Raiders. These

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<v Speaker 4>are teams that are in the same situation as you are.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't find a way to climb out of that,

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<v Speaker 4>So it could theoretically still not be good.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be third number one pick in five years.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well mine is a little bit different, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's very hot, Tache. It's more of a shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to social media. I'm gonna laugh to keep from crying.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to thank Jaguars Twitter, because you are

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<v Speaker 3>the funniest fan base I've ever been around. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a sense of self deprecating humor that I very much enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for the memes, thank you for the gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for keeping this light, because it's not light

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<v Speaker 3>and it stinks right now and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really thankful.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you haven't, go find something funny to laugh

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<v Speaker 3>about today.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the game was not good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wanted to watch more football last night, I

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<v Speaker 5>just turned it off.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it was a great game in the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 4>LA Chargers game, and I just couldn't even bear to

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<v Speaker 4>watch it. So I think I'm avoid football this week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bye week, so that would be a good

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<v Speaker 3>week to do that. Say, let's here, we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you about what's coming up before the bye week kicks in.

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<v Speaker 8>It is the reality of this business, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>you know it's not something anybody wishes for. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>you've got so much love for everybody in this locker

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<v Speaker 8>room and on this team. It's not something you wish for,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's the reality. You know, we're not winning, and

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<v Speaker 8>so you know, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm anoid talking about changes.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine we will see some changes going forward at

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<v Speaker 3>some point with this scene, because things are not working

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<v Speaker 3>right now, so I don't know when that's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bye week, guys, that's we have. We will

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<v Speaker 2>have a we'll have a break this weekend. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's needed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen, the wolves start howling at the door, and

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<v Speaker 4>you you you can't get them to leave until you win,

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<v Speaker 4>and that means you don't have another shot until the

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday after Thanksgiving. And there is a discontentment angst the

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<v Speaker 4>fan base. You mentioned them on social media that we'll

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<v Speaker 4>just keep ratcheting up the pressure. The owner can't be

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<v Speaker 4>happy with this anyway, so it just it just makes

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<v Speaker 4>it feel as if something's coming, But don't have any idea.

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<v Speaker 6>We're there again, That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>We are here from head coach, a little bit later

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<v Speaker 3>here from the locker room. We will be back on

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday with you. If you want to hear some more,

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<v Speaker 3>have some more therapy happy hour tonight. Check that out

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<v Speaker 3>with Pete and Tony. I'm sure they will have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to say. If not, we'll see you on Wednesday.