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Speaker 3: I graduated in May nineteen seventy nine, and it was
Speaker 3: easy to slip back into the Christian world. The kids
Speaker 3: were growing like weeds and ahead of the household was needed.
Speaker 3: Paula needed to be home, so all responsibility landed on me.
Speaker 3: I had no time to be away from home. Being
Speaker 3: busy with the family kept the dark side at bay.
Speaker 3: The next year, we got a pet dog, Patches, a
Speaker 3: Britney Spaniel. I built a fence in the backyard and
Speaker 3: I did a lot of gardening and enjoyed life with
Speaker 3: my wife and two kids. The job with ADT gave
Speaker 3: me opportunities to be out of town, staying in motel rooms,
Speaker 3: so I would take the bondage items with me or
Speaker 3: shop for new ones at the town where I was
Speaker 3: doing a job. A second time, when Paula came home.
Speaker 3: I was in full bondage in the hallway in a
Speaker 3: slit with a rope. I tried to hide it in
Speaker 3: the bathroom, but there was just too much of it
Speaker 3: out to hide. She exploded into a fury. I cleaned
Speaker 3: the mess up and told her I would leave. I
Speaker 3: was so embarrassed and ashamed. I slept a day or
Speaker 3: two in the living room. She was thinking about what
Speaker 3: to do. We didn't talk, only small talk in front
Speaker 3: of the kids. She finally told me that if she
Speaker 3: ever caught me again, she would file for divorce and
Speaker 3: I would have to leave the house for good. I understood.
Speaker 3: I vowed I would never do this at home again.
Speaker 4: Someone killed four members of a family.
Speaker 5: Had you vanished from her home suddenly last weekend? Her
Speaker 5: phone lines had been cut, her door left open.
Speaker 6: You see the victim playing there with flashing bags over
Speaker 6: their heads, strangled. You could tell it was a plan scenario.
Speaker 7: Well, police have said no more about the contents of
Speaker 7: the letter.
Speaker 5: It does contain some sort of threat and implies the
Speaker 5: killer may strike again.
Speaker 3: He's going to play with these victims.
Speaker 8: He'd get him to the point of death and then
Speaker 8: bring them back and then brings them back to the
Speaker 8: point of death.
Speaker 9: From My Heart podcasts and Tenderfoot TV. I'm Susan Peters
Speaker 9: and this is Monster BTK. In nineteen seventy nine, sixty
Speaker 9: three year old Anna Williams just barely escaped to becoming
Speaker 9: btk's eighth victim. He had broken into her home and
Speaker 9: waited for her, leaving in a huff when she didn't
Speaker 9: arrive home at her normal time. Soon after, he sent
Speaker 9: a nineteen line poem titled oh Anna, why didn't you
Speaker 9: appear to both Williams and to Cake TV. Police wondered
Speaker 9: why BTK had targeted Williams. She was, after all, older
Speaker 9: than most of his other victims. They wondered if her
Speaker 9: twenty four year old granddaughter had been his intended target.
Speaker 9: Williams didn't stick around to find out.
Speaker 6: Well, Annie, she left Wichita, she moved, and again the
Speaker 6: community still on high alert.
Speaker 9: If you will This is former Wichita Police Chief Richard Lemonnion.
Speaker 9: He says that after the Williams attempt, the BTK trail
Speaker 9: went dark. In May of nineteen seventy nine, Raider graduated
Speaker 9: from Wichita State with a bachelor's degree in Administration of Justice.
Speaker 9: This resulted in the loss of his cover story for
Speaker 9: being out late in the evenings, another reason. He put
Speaker 9: the monster to rest, but he started practicing bondage more often.
Speaker 9: Eventually he was caught by his wife, which you heard
Speaker 9: at the top of the episode. This incident was deeply
Speaker 9: embarrassing to Raider. He assured Paula he would change, but
Speaker 9: in reality, the only thing he changed was the location
Speaker 9: of his self gratification. Here are his words from the
Speaker 9: book Confession of a Serial Killer.
Speaker 3: These incidents were perfect times to seek professional help. I know,
Speaker 3: but I don't recall if Paula asked me to do
Speaker 3: anything like this. Maybe she did, and I told her
Speaker 3: I would work it out. But I thought if I
Speaker 3: told someone about the other things I was doing in
Speaker 3: order to really get help, they would be obligated to
Speaker 3: tell the police.
Speaker 9: Nineteen eighty four marked ten years since the Otero killings,
Speaker 9: and btk's five year absence hadn't put Leamonnion's feares to
Speaker 9: bed like it had for other Witchitans.
Speaker 6: There was a sense of that was in our history.
Speaker 6: It doesn't exist anymore, at least to the community. To me,
Speaker 6: it was very real.
Speaker 9: So with special permission from city manager Jene Denton and
Speaker 9: Al kirk A County Commissioner. Lamnion planned the most sophisticated
Speaker 9: investigation in city history. The technological advancements of the nineteen
Speaker 9: eighties re energized the investigation gation.
Speaker 6: In eighty four, we put together a special task force.
Speaker 6: I handpicked a group of investigators to be a part
Speaker 6: of that. I had senior detectives, I had new detectives.
Speaker 6: I had patrol officers that were assigned, and that was
Speaker 6: the only thing they were working on. The media found
Speaker 6: out about it. We didn't tell them what was going on,
Speaker 6: but they dubbed it ghostbusters. The idea was of this
Speaker 6: group was number one to identify and arrest the guy.
Speaker 6: Number two was to put together all the information we had,
Speaker 6: computerize it as best we could, put all the files
Speaker 6: in place. If he was dead, we knew that we
Speaker 6: would find the trophies sometime or if he was still alive,
Speaker 6: at some point he's going to come back. So we're
Speaker 6: going to either catch the person or we're going to
Speaker 6: put it together in such a way that when the
Speaker 6: next thing happens, whoever the investigator is can just pick
Speaker 6: it up and move forward. That was our plan.
Speaker 9: Promising young detectives like Kenny land Where were brought in
Speaker 9: to give this case.
Speaker 6: There all we weren't done, We hadn't put everything together,
Speaker 6: and I thought to myself, this is the type of
Speaker 6: thing we need to do, get behind closed doors. We've
Speaker 6: got computers, now, we've got DNA, we've got semen, we've
Speaker 6: got everything else. And as a result of that, it
Speaker 6: took several months, but it proved at least in our
Speaker 6: mind that we knew the person we're looking for is local.
Speaker 6: The reason we can't find him is he's one of us.
Speaker 6: He goes to the same grocery store that we go to,
Speaker 6: he goes to the same movies. He probably has a family,
Speaker 6: he works here, and the reason we can't find him
Speaker 6: is one of the people that lives in this door.
Speaker 9: The BTK task Force was made up of eight men,
Speaker 9: Captain Gary Fulton, Lieutenant Al Stewart, and Officers Paul Dotson,
Speaker 9: ed Nass, Mark Richardson, Jerry Harper, and Paul Holmes, along
Speaker 9: with land Where. Throughout nineteen eighty four, the Ghostbusters would
Speaker 9: search high and low for clues about the identity of BTK.
Speaker 9: For the first month of their work with the task force.
Speaker 9: They did nothing but read reports. They spent hundreds of
Speaker 9: man hours re examining an index of previously eliminated suspects
Speaker 9: put together by older detectives. They also spent weeks debating
Speaker 9: whether or not to add the Catherine Bright files to
Speaker 9: the BTK evidence. Yes, they eventually decided. In October of
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty four, they brought in FBI criminal profilers.
Speaker 8: We call the Wichita police. Come on in here, guys,
Speaker 8: and bring a tape recorders. We won't be able to
Speaker 8: have time at the written profile, but we'll work with
Speaker 8: you for day or two whatever takes to help you
Speaker 8: people out.
Speaker 9: This is John Douglas, former FBI special agent.
Speaker 8: And then we did this kind of a mind bust,
Speaker 8: me and three other profiles with the cops there going
Speaker 8: around and evaluating, the analyzing the case things that they
Speaker 8: should be doing. And I came up with the idea,
Speaker 8: when you have an offender who starts to communicate, rather
Speaker 8: communicate with a department, I want him to communicate with
Speaker 8: a person affiliated with the investigation, and I want that
Speaker 8: guy to be the focal point I called a super coop.
Speaker 9: In time, Kenny Landware would become that focal point. The
Speaker 9: initial FBI profile, delivered in part by criminal profile or
Speaker 9: Roy Hazelwood, provided cops with their first detailed impressions of BTK.
Speaker 9: Here is an excerpt from the book bind Tour Kill.
Speaker 10: Hazelwood thought BTK practiced bondage in everyday life, that he
Speaker 10: was a sexual sadist, a control freak, and could interact
Speaker 10: with others only on a superficial level. You know him,
Speaker 10: but you don't really know him. The profiler felt that
Speaker 10: although BTK would do well at work, he wouldn't like
Speaker 10: anyone telling him what to do. Hazelwood also thought BTK
Speaker 10: collected bondage materials and read crime books and detective magazines.
Speaker 9: From then on, every time BTK Task Force member Paul
Speaker 9: Holmes entered someone's home, he looked around for detective magazines.
Speaker 9: When Raider's daughter Carrie made it to kindergarten, he decided
Speaker 9: he was ready to kill again, but he was older.
Speaker 9: Now he had more responsibilities and less time to prowl.
Speaker 9: This time, he would pick a target closer to home again.
Speaker 9: A snippet from Confession of a serial Killer.
Speaker 2: Raider had noticed a neighbor, Marine Hedge, a fifty three
Speaker 2: year old woman who lived just down the street and
Speaker 2: often gave a friendly wave. She lived alone and was
Speaker 2: just the right size.
Speaker 3: I thought about what her neck would look like with
Speaker 3: a rope around it.
Speaker 2: It was time, Raider thought to re energize his secret identity.
Speaker 3: It had been a long time since the last time
Speaker 3: Factor X exploded in my world and shattered someone else's.
Speaker 9: Targeting someone so close to home went against his code
Speaker 9: for how to be a successful serial killer, but the
Speaker 9: challenge excited him.
Speaker 3: Breaking my own rules sort of gave me a rush.
Speaker 3: I lived on the knife edge for a long time
Speaker 3: with this, Following newspaper, TV or neighbor talk. By reading
Speaker 3: other cases, I knew this was a high gamble. To me,
Speaker 3: hedge took a lot of thinking and planning. This was
Speaker 3: the first time I had decided to use the Boy
Speaker 3: Scouts as my cover.
Speaker 9: The target day arrived April twenty sixth, nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 9: Raider went to the Boy Scout camp, where he typically
Speaker 9: helped set up He had become a leader when his
Speaker 9: son Brian joined. He parked his car on the hill
Speaker 9: by the roadside so that he could leave and come
Speaker 9: back unnoticed.
Speaker 7: In the end of April nineteen eighty five, I'm almost seven.
Speaker 11: My dad was.
Speaker 7: On a cub Scout camp out with my brother Brian
Speaker 7: at Camp Tewakany. My dad feigns that he's like ill
Speaker 7: or has a headache. He says he's going to his ted,
Speaker 7: knowing my daddy probably even stuffed something in his sleeping bag.
Speaker 9: This is Dennis Raider's daughter Carrie.
Speaker 7: Raw and he then using the cub Scout camp out
Speaker 7: for an alibi, he goes to a bowling alley, goes
Speaker 7: and slashes some beer in his mouth and make it
Speaker 7: seem like he was drinking. He leaves our family chavette
Speaker 7: at the bowling alley and he takes a taxi out
Speaker 7: to my neighbor. He gets out of the taxi and
Speaker 7: he has a bowling bag with him that's maroon and white.
Speaker 5: That's like his hit kit.
Speaker 7: And he walks past my grandparents house and he goes
Speaker 7: through Missus Hedges' backyard. Missus hedges house is built exactly
Speaker 7: like my house and exactly like my grandparents' house, three
Speaker 7: bedroom ranch.
Speaker 9: This meant he'd have no trouble figuring out the best
Speaker 9: way to get into the home. He cut her phone line,
Speaker 9: broke into the home, and then yet another one of
Speaker 9: his plans hit a snag.
Speaker 7: He broke into her house, expecting her to be home
Speaker 7: because her car was there, but she had gone with
Speaker 7: this man. She's not, so he's disappointed and mad, so
Speaker 7: he hides in her closet. Then they come home, and
Speaker 7: now she's come home with a man. While he doesn't
Speaker 7: want to have to deal with two people. It's messy,
Speaker 7: and he's not there for the man. He's there for her.
Speaker 7: So he's getting frustrated and he's hanging on in the
Speaker 7: closet and he's like waiting forever for the man to leave.
Speaker 7: He probably could have murdered both of them, he just
Speaker 7: didn't want to because he's older at this point too.
Speaker 11: It's eighty five, so he's wet.
Speaker 7: He's forty at that point, and he hadn't murdered anybody
Speaker 7: in my eight years. So he waits for her to
Speaker 7: fall asleep, and he jumps into bed and starts strangling her.
Speaker 9: He manually suffocated Marine until she died. In his words,
Speaker 9: he throttled her. What happened next is a departure from
Speaker 9: btk's usual mo In a disturbing turn of events, Rayder
Speaker 9: decided taking photos of Marine's body in her house wasn't enough.
Speaker 9: He wanted to do something special.
Speaker 3: Since I was in the sexual fantasy, I went ahead
Speaker 3: and stripped her and tied her up. I put handcuffs on.
Speaker 3: I put her on a blanket, and I went through
Speaker 3: her purse. I needed the car key and took some
Speaker 3: personal items in the house while I figured out how
Speaker 3: I was going to get her out of there. Eventually,
Speaker 3: I moved her to the trunk of the car. I
Speaker 3: took the car over to christ Lutheran Church, where I
Speaker 3: had stashed some items. I tied her up in different
Speaker 3: positions and took pictures. I did not use the altar.
Speaker 3: I was bad and disturbed, but I still had respect
Speaker 3: for some items of God's house. Finally I had a
Speaker 3: real bondage picture with a victim.
Speaker 9: Daylight was coming fast. He had to hide Marine's body
Speaker 9: and make it back to the boy scout camp before
Speaker 9: anyone noticed he was gone. He left her body in
Speaker 9: a ditch on fifty third Street. Police wouldn't find her
Speaker 9: until over a week later.
Speaker 5: The body was discovered here at fifty third Street North,
Speaker 5: just east of Webb Road, a bit west of the
Speaker 5: area that police had been searching all weekend for some
Speaker 5: clue to the disappearance of fifty three year old Marine Hedge.
Speaker 5: Hedge vanished from her home suddenly last weekend. Her phone
Speaker 5: lines had been cut, her door left open, and police
Speaker 5: have been picking up the pieces ever since. But Park
Speaker 5: City Police Chief Ace van Way may have put the
Speaker 5: final piece of the puzzle together when he and a
Speaker 5: partner noticed what appeared to be a blouse hanging from
Speaker 5: a tree limb and searched this area.
Speaker 9: Marine Hedge's murder was not connected to BTK at the time.
Speaker 9: It had taken place outside of Wichita, and despite the
Speaker 9: cut phone lines, didn't fit the usual BTKM.
Speaker 6: Keep in mind, this is a county case, different investigators,
Speaker 6: different crime unit. However, we work very closely with him,
Speaker 6: and even after discussion the fact that her body was
Speaker 6: thrown out, if you will, at an intersection fifty third
Speaker 6: and Web, we just did not see a connection with
Speaker 6: it whatsoever.
Speaker 5: The body was nude and police say badly decomposed. A
Speaker 5: pair of knotted pantyhose were found lying in the ditch
Speaker 5: beside it, and the evergreen branches covering the body may
Speaker 5: match pine needles found in the trunk of Marine Hatches
Speaker 5: car but police say that's about all the evidence they
Speaker 5: have to go on.
Speaker 9: Raider's big risk had panned out. No one suspected BTK
Speaker 9: all eyes were on Marine's date as the prime suspect.
Speaker 9: Psychologist Catherine Ramsland says Raider had to play it safe
Speaker 9: after this.
Speaker 12: He enjoyed that kind of cat and mouse game to
Speaker 12: a point. When he killed a woman in his own neighborhood,
Speaker 12: he'd not make any communication at all because, first of all,
Speaker 12: that violated his own rules don't kill close to home,
Speaker 12: and second, he didn't want to bring the police, you know,
Speaker 12: give them any sense that this is related to the
Speaker 12: other murders, So that stopped his communications.
Speaker 9: Breaking his no killing close to home rule also had
Speaker 9: ripple effects that impacted his family's sense of safety.
Speaker 7: Somehow. I know that missus Hedge she's been strangled. A
Speaker 7: week or so later, I am running around at Christ
Speaker 7: Lutheran after a church and I fall and I break
Speaker 7: my arm. So I have a bone sticking out of
Speaker 7: my arm. I'm bleeding and I'm screaming. Now I've had
Speaker 7: this like pretty major injury for a kid. My dad
Speaker 7: gets a cookie tray from the church kitchen and a
Speaker 7: towel to secure my arm, and he puts me in
Speaker 7: the back of our station wagon instead of calling an ambulance.
Speaker 7: My mom's back there with me. He drives me a
Speaker 7: few miles south of late I have to have surgery,
Speaker 7: three pins put in my arm, and I'm in the.
Speaker 11: Hospital for five days.
Speaker 7: So my six year old self cemitted missus Hedge's murder
Speaker 7: with my broken arm, and it was just like big
Speaker 7: trauma ball and so literally I started having night terrors,
Speaker 7: and the best we know, my night terrors started around
Speaker 7: the time missus Hedge was murdered.
Speaker 9: Talking with Payne Lindsey in the Tenderfoot Studio, Carrie says
Speaker 9: she thought her fear emboldened her father.
Speaker 13: As a six year old.
Speaker 7: Did you know that this was related to Henny's death? No,
Speaker 7: I mean, there's no way I realized I had combined
Speaker 7: like the trauma over my arm and the hospital and
Speaker 7: Missus Hedge. He's quoted as saying, like, at that time,
Speaker 7: when I started getting scared like that, that it worried
Speaker 7: him that I was messed up basically from the murder
Speaker 7: he had committed down the street. But it also empowered him.
Speaker 7: It may feel empowered like he was terrifying me.
Speaker 2: So your dad was aware that you, like, even if
Speaker 2: you weren't, your dad was aware that you were being
Speaker 2: affected by hedges death.
Speaker 7: Yeah. He's quoted in twenty sixteen as saying he was
Speaker 7: sure it was from there. I mean, I've talked to criminologists,
Speaker 7: I've talked to detectives, talked to trauma therapists. Nobody knows
Speaker 7: how to fix this night terra stuff, and nobody knows.
Speaker 7: Why is it the bad guy in the room trying
Speaker 7: and kill me? Do you feel like the bad guy
Speaker 7: is your dad?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: In June of nineteen eighty five, nearly seventeen hundred miles
Speaker 9: away from Wichita in San Francisco, California, a man named
Speaker 9: Leonard Lake was connected to more than two dozen deaths
Speaker 9: and disappearances.
Speaker 14: This tape, what you're hearing now is going to be
Speaker 14: the lead end building, which hopefully will be the first
Speaker 14: of a series of underground buildings. The main emphasis of
Speaker 14: the building will be a cell. The purpose of that
Speaker 14: cell and the main purpose hens of the building will
Speaker 14: be the imprisonment.
Speaker 6: For the young lady, a remote cabin where cops say
Speaker 6: some of the most gruesome serial killings in California, history
Speaker 6: took place twelve.
Speaker 4: It was in big Dums.
Speaker 15: Three women, seven men, two babies.
Speaker 9: Raider was fascinated. He saw a lot of parallels between
Speaker 9: himself and Lake. Here are his words from Confession of
Speaker 9: a serial Killer.
Speaker 3: I had clippings about him and his partner in my
Speaker 3: Heidi Hole folders, but killing babies was off my list.
Speaker 3: After the oteros and by random chance with Vianne, I
Speaker 3: decided that no young children would be involved in my hits.
Speaker 9: It wouldn't be long before Rader betrayed this newly formed rule.
Speaker 14: I can't imagine any woman.
Speaker 6: Harming her, not knowing her.
Speaker 5: She was a good person to know.
Speaker 11: And a good friend to have had.
Speaker 9: Vicky Wiggery was a young mother who lived at twenty
Speaker 9: four oh four West thirteenth Street with her husband Bill
Speaker 9: and children Brandon and Stephanie. Dennis Rader spotted her in
Speaker 9: the fall of nineteen eighty six. As he spied on
Speaker 9: her home, he would listen as she played the piano.
Speaker 9: He thought she played beautifully and named her Project Piano. Ironically,
Speaker 9: her neighbor was the head of the BTK Task Force,
Speaker 9: Kenny landwere Vicky stayed at home with two year old
Speaker 9: Brandon during the day, while Bill was off at work,
Speaker 9: Rader decided this would be the best time to strike.
Speaker 9: He planned to pass himself off as a Southwestern Bell
Speaker 9: repairman to gain access to her home. Here is another
Speaker 9: excerpt from the book The Inside Story of BTK.
Speaker 10: Raider had modified a business card to look like a
Speaker 10: phone company identification card. He had a yellow hard hat
Speaker 10: provided by ADT. He had cut out a segment of
Speaker 10: the cover of a Southwestern Bell repair manual and pasted
Speaker 10: it on the hard hat, hoping to pass himself off
Speaker 10: as a telephone repairman. The briefcase he would carry looked official,
Speaker 10: but would contain his hit kit supplies.
Speaker 9: It was the morning of September sixteenth, nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 9: Rader parked the security company van in the Indian Hills
Speaker 9: Shopping Center parking lot, donned his costume and crossed the
Speaker 9: street towards Vicki's house, but first to strengthen his cover,
Speaker 9: he went the home of her elderly neighbors, who led
Speaker 9: him in to check their phone lines.
Speaker 10: When he left the older couple's house, he walked to
Speaker 10: the blond woman's door. He heard the piano. When he
Speaker 10: knocked the music stopped.
Speaker 9: Vicky opened the door, and Rader led with the same
Speaker 9: line he had used on the neighbors. She was weary
Speaker 9: and asked whether it was really necessary for him to
Speaker 9: come in. Wasn't the phone line in the backyard, Vicky asked.
Speaker 9: Eventually she relented after pretending to test her telephone. He
Speaker 9: dropped the act and told Vicki to go to the bedroom.
Speaker 9: She cried out, what about my kid, she asked. My
Speaker 9: husband is going to be home soon, she said. Rader
Speaker 9: hoped not.
Speaker 10: He made her lie down on the waterbed. As she
Speaker 10: cried and tried to argue, He tied her wrists and
Speaker 10: ankles with leather shoelaces. Vicki began to pray out loud.
Speaker 10: Suddenly she ched her hands, broke her bonds, and began
Speaker 10: to fight. And then everything became noise and fear. Btk
Speaker 10: hit Picky in the face again and again, then grabbed
Speaker 10: at her throat, she thought, nicking him on the neck
Speaker 10: with a fingernail. He tried to use his strangling rig
Speaker 10: but couldn't get a grip. He saw a pair of
Speaker 10: panty hose nearby that worked. Once he looped it around
Speaker 10: her neck.
Speaker 6: He killed her and left the baby did not kill
Speaker 6: the baby. The baby was just a toddler, a little
Speaker 6: little bitty thing. The husband found her when he got home.
Speaker 6: The crime scene was pretty much destroyed, if you will,
Speaker 6: by the husband and by others trying to revive her
Speaker 6: and things of that nature.
Speaker 9: When Bill Wiggerly arrived home on his lunch break, it
Speaker 9: would take him forty five minutes before he discovered his
Speaker 9: wife's body in their bedroom, and.
Speaker 13: By the time police got to Vicky Weggerly's house on
Speaker 13: West Thirteenth, her heart had already stopped beating. She died
Speaker 13: within fifteen minutes at Riverside Hospital. Her husband Bill supposedly
Speaker 13: found Vicky with a noose around her neck. Their two
Speaker 13: year old son, Brandon, was playing in another bedroom at
Speaker 13: the time of the murder. And now, after hours of
Speaker 13: interviewing family members and searching for evidence, police have a
Speaker 13: few leads on who killed Vicky Weggerly.
Speaker 9: Per standard police procedure, Bill Weggery became the prime suspect
Speaker 9: in his wife's murder. Unfortunately, as Richard Lemunien says, his
Speaker 9: initial panic upon discovering his wife's body only made the
Speaker 9: situation worse.
Speaker 6: The crime chain was really meshed up. I mean, here's
Speaker 6: a husband. He comes to old Panny, here's his wife.
Speaker 6: He's trying to do everything he can to shave her.
Speaker 6: You can't visualize walking into a situation like that. And
Speaker 6: when ems gets there, everyone else gets there. You got
Speaker 6: a baby screaming. I mean, you're trying to do everything
Speaker 6: you can. You're trying to get her to the hospital.
Speaker 9: Detectives were trying to move fast. The first few hours
Speaker 9: in a homicide investigation are crucial. They grilled Bill. Was
Speaker 9: he having an affair?
Speaker 16: Was she?
Speaker 9: What took him so long to find his wife's body.
Speaker 9: They suggested a lie detector test, and he agreed. They
Speaker 9: tested him twice. He failed both times. Years later, Wichita
Speaker 9: police would come to the conclusion that lie detector tests
Speaker 9: should never be given to a spouse. In the immediate
Speaker 9: aftermath of the murder, It's likely Bill's distress led to
Speaker 9: the two false positives. Raiders sent no communication about the
Speaker 9: murder of Vicki Weggerly, and so yet another BTK murder
Speaker 9: went unattributed to the serial killer. Richard Lemonnion said a
Speaker 9: police had discussed the possibility.
Speaker 6: At first, it was questionable whether or not that was
Speaker 6: a BTK case, A couple of investigators didn't think so,
Speaker 6: A couple of other investigators did think so, and I
Speaker 6: agreed with them. But we can't prove it one.
Speaker 4: Way or the other.
Speaker 6: There just won't any evidence like the other ones had
Speaker 6: been in the past. And to keep in mind, it
Speaker 6: had been a while now since we had had a
Speaker 6: BTK quote murder credit. It's kind of unusual because my
Speaker 6: brother lived like four doors down from that particular house
Speaker 6: on thirteenth Street. What are the irony of that?
Speaker 9: By the year following the Weggerly murder, all the Ghostbusters
Speaker 9: but Kenny Landweer had been reassigned. Then just before the
Speaker 9: end of nineteen eighty seven, Landwear was assigned to the
Speaker 9: homicide unit. While the BTK Task Force never truly disbanded,
Speaker 9: the which atop police force and the greater Wichita community
Speaker 9: moved on. BTK outlasted entire cop careers. Richard Lemunien retired
Speaker 9: in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 6: I still remember some of the tragedies, you know that
Speaker 6: I went to some of the homicide, the rape cases
Speaker 6: and the bused children are pulling people out of rerection,
Speaker 6: saying you remember those kind of things, And of course
Speaker 6: you don't forget a BGK case at all.
Speaker 9: Throughout the rest of the nineteen eighties, Raider picked out
Speaker 9: various projects, none of which panned out. He estimated to
Speaker 9: Catherine Ramsland that more than thirty could have resulted in
Speaker 9: murder victims. At the end of nineteen eighty seven, a
Speaker 9: Wichita woman named Mary Fager came home to find her
Speaker 9: husband and two daughters had been murdered. Here's an excerpt
Speaker 9: from a January nineteen eighty eight news article.
Speaker 15: Bodies of Sherry and Kelly Faker were found in a
Speaker 15: newly installed hot tub in the Solarium. Kelly, who was nude,
Speaker 15: was drowned. Police were investigating the possibility she was sexually assaulted.
Speaker 15: Lemnion said Sherry was found with her hands bound behind
Speaker 15: her back with black electrical tape. She had been strangled
Speaker 15: with an electrical cord and also drowned. Philip Fager was
Speaker 15: shot twice in the back of the head.
Speaker 9: A few days after the murders, an envelope arrived at
Speaker 9: the Faker's house. In it was a drawing of a
Speaker 9: young girl bound and lying next to a tub. The
Speaker 9: envelope also contained a poem entitled Oh God, he put
Speaker 9: Kelly Sherry in the tub. Investigators guessed the letter had
Speaker 9: come from BTK. They were right. Part of the letter reads.
Speaker 3: Another one prowls of the deep abyss of lewd thoughts
Speaker 3: and deeds.
Speaker 9: Raider didn't kill the Fager family. He was just a
Speaker 9: fan of whoever had. In confession of a serial killer,
Speaker 9: Raider said he mailed Missus Fager the letter as a
Speaker 9: safe way to let a little bit of the monster out.
Speaker 3: Compare it to a volcano. The molten lava couldn't find
Speaker 3: the time, the hidden hours and time away from home
Speaker 3: was simply not there, so it had to find a
Speaker 3: different way to erupt.
Speaker 9: In the summer of nineteen eighty eight, Raider lost his
Speaker 9: job with ADT. The pressure continued to build. Carrie says
Speaker 9: he found other ways to let the pressure out. When
Speaker 9: he had opportunities to go out of town, he would
Speaker 9: relive his various hints.
Speaker 7: For him, it really wasn't about who he was murdering,
Speaker 7: or even the murder or the fan fantasy of wanting it.
Speaker 7: He said, it was always like this letown like now
Speaker 7: they're dead. Now wept, but he could always replay it.
Speaker 7: So he's known to like dress up and do this
Speaker 7: bondage to re enact what he was doing to these people,
Speaker 7: and most of the time that was enough for him.
Speaker 7: When he was in the censes in the late eighties,
Speaker 7: he would take his bondage stuff and he have polaroids
Speaker 7: of himself dressed up in like full wing and clothes,
Speaker 7: trying to recreate this visual image of his victims. He
Speaker 7: called it motel parties.
Speaker 9: After getting a job as a census field supervisor in
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty nine, he had another reason to travel, allowing
Speaker 9: Raider to gratify himself away from the prying eyes of Paula.
Speaker 3: My first major motel party was in Elk City, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: I worked it there on off days in between trainings.
Speaker 3: Before I was able to travel, I was limited on extravagance.
Speaker 3: Usually it was in barns or such places, and I
Speaker 3: had little time. As the trips increased and became more lavish,
Speaker 3: the motel parties became a sex struck. I looked forward
Speaker 3: to them a reward after a long day, a hot
Speaker 3: date with a sex fantasy victim. For bondage. I used
Speaker 3: all kinds of gadgets on me. I had my favorite
Speaker 3: feminine clothes, the red braw from PJ. Bell the chemise
Speaker 3: from PJ. Foxtail jewelry from Deflower, satin hose from PJ.
Speaker 3: Prairie colored pantyhose from so many slips, panties, wigs, masks
Speaker 3: of different types, much like the Buffalo bill from the
Speaker 3: Silence of the Lambs, A good book and movie for
Speaker 3: a motel party.
Speaker 9: While Raider was hiding out in motel rooms, serial killers
Speaker 9: were gaining cultural prominence.
Speaker 17: Year old drifter with no record of violence, yet he's
Speaker 17: accused of being one of California's most brutal killers. Richard
Speaker 17: Ramirez was captured today. Police say he is the walk
Speaker 17: in killer.
Speaker 13: Police removed boxes and boxes of body parts evidence of
Speaker 13: what appears to be a psychopathic mass murder.
Speaker 17: Horrible truth to suburban contractor John Gacy's rambling statements to
Speaker 17: police last week is becoming more and more evident with
Speaker 17: each passing day.
Speaker 18: Street The strangler case makes one fact vividly clear. People
Speaker 18: can never totally protect themselves from unknown killers who choose
Speaker 18: their victims at random, leaving behind virtually no clues and
Speaker 18: even less understanding of their motives.
Speaker 9: Reader hated that so many other serial killers were getting
Speaker 9: famous while BTK was not. He wondered if it was
Speaker 9: time to strike again. At forty six years old, Dennis
Speaker 9: Raider's urge to kill was as strong as ever. His
Speaker 9: motel parties and bondage toys were no longer cutting it.
Speaker 9: By nineteen ninety, over four years had passed since his
Speaker 9: last successful hit. No one had connected BTK to a
Speaker 9: murder since nineteen seventy seven. In the fall of nineteen ninety,
Speaker 9: he spotted Delores Davis.
Speaker 16: Mom was a real giving person. She always was worried
Speaker 16: about the underdog, as she always was concerned about the
Speaker 16: other person. I honestly always put other people's needs ahead
Speaker 16: of her own. My name is Jeff Davis and I'm
Speaker 16: the son of Doloris Davis. Mom was a very sacrificing person.
Speaker 16: She was a pretty optimistic person for the most part,
Speaker 16: even during the hard times. She tried to be optimistic.
Speaker 16: She's lived by Christian values and she tried to make
Speaker 16: herself an example in that respect. And she was always
Speaker 16: there for me and my system, even when I probably
Speaker 16: didn't deserve it. And Steve was just the kind of
Speaker 16: person that if you met her, you say, Jesus, really
Speaker 16: nice ladies. If anybody didn't like my mom. I don't
Speaker 16: know who it would have been. I mean, any stun
Speaker 16: is going to be biased Forge's mother. Before she died,
Speaker 16: we had a very very close relationship, and I'm so
Speaker 16: glad that we were able to do that because as
Speaker 16: the guys under circumstances where there was bad blood or something,
Speaker 16: it would have been even more horrible than I already was.
Speaker 9: In nineteen ninety one, Dolores Davis was a single woman
Speaker 9: living alone in Wichitama. Dolores and her husband split in
Speaker 9: nineteen sixty one. Jeff went to live with his dad,
Speaker 9: while his sister stayed in Wichital with their mom. Delores's
Speaker 9: daughter graduated high school in the mid nineteen seventies, and
Speaker 9: Dolores was then on her own.
Speaker 16: She drew up on a farm, so failways had a
Speaker 16: farm mentality, and farmers don't lock their doors. I would
Speaker 16: face seems probably a little more cautious because it was
Speaker 16: with her, and she didn't have a dog, she'd have
Speaker 16: any kind of alarm system.
Speaker 9: Like every other person in Wichital, Delores and her children
Speaker 9: had heard about the BTK murders. Jeff at least feared
Speaker 9: what could happen, but Dolores's habits didn't change much.
Speaker 16: Mom was always very independent and she pretty much face
Speaker 16: could handle herself. Now I wanted her to get a dog,
Speaker 16: and she was gonna get a dog, and she did
Speaker 16: get one, and then the landlord made her give it up.
Speaker 16: That I have a real problem with. Sure, he's been
Speaker 16: pretty self sufficient too. I don't think they hit home
Speaker 16: with them. I think it was an abtract concept that
Speaker 16: most people in town realized something bad is going on
Speaker 16: out there. I don't think anybody personalized. There was no
Speaker 16: real reasons. They just thought of it as you know,
Speaker 16: you have a three fatality car wreck. But I think
Speaker 16: in my family we didn't stal need to make a
Speaker 16: lot of things.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 9: Reader had seen Davis not far from where he lived
Speaker 9: in Park City. Carrie Rawson says he became obsessed with her.
Speaker 7: Now he had been stalking her. He was moonlighting at
Speaker 7: Leeker's Grocery. Now, my grandma had worked there and my
Speaker 7: dad had worked there in high school. My mom was
Speaker 7: a bookkeeper there at some point. It's where we always
Speaker 7: grocery shopped. Everybody knew our family. They were trying to
Speaker 7: help my dad out with money, and they were having
Speaker 7: him do security and install some cameras and stuff, you know,
Speaker 7: just help him out. Well, that's where he got fixated
Speaker 7: on Dolores.
Speaker 11: She was a widow.
Speaker 7: He's depressed, and so he decides to murder her.
Speaker 9: He set a target date for January of nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 7: He's forty six years old now, and he's depressed and
Speaker 7: he's miserable because he doesn't have a job and we
Speaker 7: don't have much money. And I'm in seventh grade. And
Speaker 7: in December of ninety my mom falls ill. She had
Speaker 7: asthma and she gets pneumonia, and so she's at Saint
Speaker 7: Francis for like ten or twelve days. So he's like
Speaker 7: sir stressed out, and I'm trying to manage my dad,
Speaker 7: keep him calm and under control, and don't worry. Dad
Speaker 7: and Mom will be okay and there'll be money. And
Speaker 7: I'm scared and I'm worried about my dad. And then
Speaker 7: mid January, I believe in ninety one, my brother's in
Speaker 7: Boy Scouts now, and he goes up north to Newton
Speaker 7: area with my brother on Trapper Rendezvous camp out. So
Speaker 7: for the second time in six shares, he's using a
Speaker 7: Boy Scout camp out as an alibi for.
Speaker 9: Murder again Raider's words from Confession of a Serial Killer.
Speaker 3: I arrived early and got camp all set up. When
Speaker 3: the others arrived, I fabricated a story that I had
Speaker 3: to go back to town for something. I went to
Speaker 3: my parents' house and dressed in my hit clothes in
Speaker 3: the basement. I checked my hit list and drove to
Speaker 3: the Baptist Church on East sixty first Street in Park City.
Speaker 3: The Scout Troop had a place there where they store equipment,
Speaker 3: so I had a cover story in case someone happened by.
Speaker 3: I also had some Heidi holes there on Pancake Scout Day.
Speaker 3: I had stayed there over night from morning set up
Speaker 3: and did bondage in the basement Sunday school rooms. From there,
Speaker 3: I walked directly to her place.
Speaker 9: Raider picked up a cinder block and threw it through
Speaker 9: the window of her home. Delores ran out of her bedroom,
Speaker 9: asking if he had her home with his car. He
Speaker 9: tried to use his usual rousse to disarm her. When
Speaker 9: Delores told him to leave, he informed her he was
Speaker 9: carrying a club, a gun, and a knife.
Speaker 3: She said she was expecting someone. I could not believe
Speaker 3: my luck in these places. I've always got someone coming.
Speaker 9: Raider then strangled Dolores with a pair of pantyhose.
Speaker 3: And that was it with her. I didn't take any
Speaker 3: pictures because I thought, well, this guy is coming. I
Speaker 3: don't want to be in this house. I need to
Speaker 3: get out of here. I put her in the trunk.
Speaker 3: That was not a smart move. The police could have
Speaker 3: connected her to Hedge. I opened the garage door, backed out,
Speaker 3: closed it and drove straight down hillside to fifty third
Speaker 3: Street North, then west to Hydraulic, then south to the
Speaker 3: k Dot Lakes.
Speaker 9: He left her body there in the bushes. He drove
Speaker 9: her car to Christ Lutheran Church and disposed of some
Speaker 9: items under the church's shed, before realizing he had misplaced
Speaker 9: his gun. He drove back to Dolores's house, retrieved his
Speaker 9: gun and a few souvenirs, including her jewelry box and
Speaker 9: a thirty five millimeter camera. He couldn't stop thinking about
Speaker 9: her body. Catherine Ramslin says he wanted to give his
Speaker 9: biggest fantasy another try.
Speaker 12: With Deloris Davis. He wanted to do something different. He
Speaker 12: wanted to take her body and take it to a barn,
Speaker 12: which had been his fantasy for a very long time
Speaker 12: and he'd never managed.
Speaker 11: To do it.
Speaker 12: It was a foggy, snowy night, so he got lost
Speaker 12: and he had to finally just dump the body out
Speaker 12: under a bridge.
Speaker 9: He left her body under the bridge at one hundred
Speaker 9: and seventeenth Street North, then rushed to get back to
Speaker 9: the Boy's Out camp, but Carrie says he still couldn't
Speaker 9: let Dolores rest.
Speaker 7: Then he goes back to the camp out and he
Speaker 7: keeps thinking about her and her body, and he can't
Speaker 7: let it go, and he thinks that it was not
Speaker 7: the best place. It's just not set staged right the
Speaker 7: way he wants it, and he stages her with a
Speaker 7: mask like probably one of the ones he was burying
Speaker 7: in some of his bondage fantasies, because he doesn't like
Speaker 7: that she's decaying right, like you'll hear these other guys
Speaker 7: talk about this, like they don't like the way they
Speaker 7: look after they're murdered or they're not alive. So he
Speaker 7: puts a mask on her and then he finally has
Speaker 7: to let her go. So now he's driving back and
Speaker 7: he stops at a rest up because he's got to
Speaker 7: change his clothes back into his boy scout outfit and
Speaker 7: he gets caught by like a highway patrolman. He was
Speaker 7: there changing his clothes and the highway patrolman was questioning
Speaker 7: him and asking him what he was.
Speaker 9: Doing next time on Monster BTK.
Speaker 4: But my daughter came to me and said, Dad, you know,
Speaker 4: Dennis showed up in our backyard of customers.
Speaker 12: He gave me a list of fifty five different projects
Speaker 12: of women he had seen and stopped.
Speaker 7: You can't help himself. It's like an iceberg, right, like
Speaker 7: you're only seeing the very tip of somebody with him,
Speaker 7: He thought.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm the smartest guy in the room and
Speaker 4: they're never going to catch me.
Speaker 7: My dad snaps and he just lunges out of his
Speaker 7: chair at my brother. He starts strangling him from the front.
Speaker 14: Cops say, the case that was once cold may be
Speaker 14: warm yet again.
Speaker 4: I just got this feelily, I want to know this guy.
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