1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: If I could, I would let other people carry me 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: through a haunted house. I would literally flop down on 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: the ground and let other people carry me through of a 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: haunted house. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: More More Better, More More Better. 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh hello, oh hello, and welcome to More Better, a 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: podcast where we stop pretending to have it all together 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: and embrace the journey of becoming a little more better every. 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Day, or at least trying to. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: That's Molsa for Merril, and that's Stephanie Beatrice, And here 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: we are, once again embracing the journey. You know, you 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: can't see me right now, but I mean Melissa can 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: see me. But I have these extensions in for this 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: season of Twisted Metal, and it is like impossible not 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: to mess with them. They are these tiny, tiny, tiny 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: little k tip extensions are beautifully done. They're like having 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: individual tenC tinsy ponytails on your head. Oh nuts, all 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: I want to do is like pull individual hairs out 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, there's something wrong with me. Let me 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: just say that, because the hell time here, the health 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: of my hair depends on. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Me not doing this. 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: And I will consistently do this during the day, like 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like fucking messing with my dumb ca tips 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: like I should just leave them alone. Okay, I'm gonna 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: try to leave them alone for this pod. Hmmm, what 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: have you done lightly well? So that's more better? 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: You're literally crossing your physically restraining yourself so that you 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: don't pick at your hair. 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: These are expensive to treat them well, to treat them well. 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Okay, what have you done lately? That's more better? Me? 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm not picking up my k tips? What are you do? 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Are not picking at your cake tips? I don't know. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of you know, I've been I've 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: been on this high, this pre show, pre gig high, 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: just trying to ride that, and I'm doing lots of 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: little things more better. It definitely is. You know, it 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: sucks because part of me wishes I could be like 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: this all the time, but I also recognize like I 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: would eventually burn out. But it does feel good to 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: be like ultra productive every day and like getting a 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: lot of shit done, and also like being sort of 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: actively rooted in gratitude and like actively trying to be 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: present when I'm with my kids and my family. And 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, I think we're just 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: all human and that's life. It's hard to sustain that 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: for long periods of time. But I'm just really enjoying 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: this moment right now where I feel all those things. 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's because I'm about to leave. You know. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not to like Devil's advocate you, but I will say, like, 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's getting easier to be in that moment, you know, 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: like maybe you do yet and like you're just getting 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: better at doing it. 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: I think it's like. 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Being in a mode where you feel your best, whether 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: whatever the circumstances around it are. It's like sometimes you 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: just like start getting better at doing that stuff, you know, 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and like you are supercharged right now because you are 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: going to leave soon. So like there's that element of 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: it too, But like there's nothing that says you can't 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: take some of this motivation and like take it beyond 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: the job and take it, take it into the job, 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: take it. 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Beyond the job, you know, Like yeah, no, And you're 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: totally right because I think actually in the past, I 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: feel like when I left for Blockbuster to do that show, Uh, 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I was this positive. I think I 68 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: was more anxious and stressed out and like frozen a 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: little bit, you know. So thank you for pointing that out, because, yeah, 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: I me realize in this moment that like there is 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: improvement I think with like, you know, the anxiety of 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: leaving and being separated from my family, and I think 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm approaching it in a healthier, more positive way 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: than I have in the past. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, listen, 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: you thank you for pointing that out. Friend. 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: You know, all it took uh for me to be 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: able to point that out to you was uh. 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Me going to therapy and getting on some meds. You 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Heany you gotta do what you 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: gotta do. That's also growth. That's also growth. Yeah, it is. 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: And like I think this is about in about a month, 82 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: it'll be a year since I've been on medication to 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: help with anxiety and depression. And I have been really 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: good about taking it every day. I've been really good 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: at like seeing where my anxiety comes from, seeing if 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: I hate to you know, if I need to medicate, 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: uh if meaning like sometimes I have like additional meds 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that I can take during the day if I really 89 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: need them. Yeah, but that's something that I've done lately 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: that's way more better then that's a been one. 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: And helps me a lot. 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean from from where I was, Like, I guess 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: it was last year. Last year to now is like 94 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: day and night for how I feel about almost everything. 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: You know, my brain just like was not in a 96 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: place that it could help itself anymore with those feelings, 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: and like, and I am. If anybody is somebody that 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: wants to try to do it by themselves, it's me. 99 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't need meds. I don't need 100 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: to do that. 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't need that. It's like people that are weak and. 102 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Can't do it on their own, and like that's not 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: true at all. 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: It's just not at all. Sometimes you just need help, 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, And it sounds like you're you're much 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: more able to get to the root causes of your 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: anxiety or some of the things that are hard for 108 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: you because you have Yeah yeah, not always, but not 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: always because it's hard, but yeah, but it's definitely much 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: harder to do when you're buried under yes, all of them. 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, then it's just like it's too big of a mountain. 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: It's just like m hmm, everything is scary. 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, more better, Yeah, speaking of scary, speaking of scary, 114 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Since we're in spooky season, happy October. Well, we're not 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: talking about spooky stuff per se, but we are talking 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: about fear today. Spooky season. Is that what you call it? 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: That is what I call it, maybe because I have 119 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: small children and we're talking about spooky creepy things all day. 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: I have one Halloween kid and one kid. When I 121 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: say Halloween kid, I mean a kid. Please talk about 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: the doll, Please talk about the animated thing. My god, 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's so funny. Last year, my youngest son, Axel, 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: and so he is, he was three last year, three 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: years old, and he is obsessed with Halloween. Talks about 126 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: Halloween all year, like needs periodic reminders of how long 127 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: it is until the next Halloween. This starts at like 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Christmas and goes all year. And he last year, he uh, 129 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: I led him. I took him to the store a 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: couple of times to pick out some new ghosts to 131 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: decorate our house or whatever. And he got really into it. 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: And there was this doll that was a white faced 133 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: ghost looking doll with a black dress and her hair 134 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: black hair and pigtails and like no eyes. But when 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: you're a type terrifying when you turn her on, her 136 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: eyes are just glow green, possessed doll, possessed all and 137 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: she goes, I bet you can't do what I can do. 138 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: Watch this, and she takes her head off, which is 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: accompanied by like this like like creepy music, and then 140 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: she goes and then she puts her head back on. 141 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: She goes, I bet you can't do that. And he 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: wanted her so. 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: Badly, totally normal three years old. 144 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: And at first I was like, no, this is an 145 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: impulsive decision, like we're going to get home and you're 146 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: gonna be like this doll is terrifying, And so I 147 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: said no, and we went home, and then for like 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: fort days straight, he asked about the doll and I went, fuck, 149 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: he really wants this fucking doll. Oh my god, that's 150 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: so funny. So I went and got him the doll. 151 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: But you know what plot twist This year. I brought 152 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: her out of the closet and he said, Mama, I 153 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: think she's a little too creepy this year. Wow, okay, 154 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: I said, you want me to like donate hers and 155 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: he said no, no, she can go back in the closet. 156 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 1: Let's see next year, oh buddy, or no, actually. 157 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: He didn't have you put her back in the in 158 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: the closet. He just had me instead of putting her 159 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: out as a decoration. She's just kind of like in 160 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: the corner of like the player. Like she's not that's 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: not creepy at all, but like she can she can 162 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: be accessed. Is she not plugged in? She plugged in? 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Er she battery powered? No, she's battery powered. She's just 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: like some batteries here. Scare the shit out of your husband. 165 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: She's so creepy to be like, No, I didn't put 166 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: batteries in, babe. I didn't put batteries in her this year. 167 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. 168 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: That's so weird. I like move her around the house. 170 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep Oh no, because she scares my older 171 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: one's so much. 172 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Well that's what you're gonna say, right the other kid, 173 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: the other child is not interested in this. 174 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: No. He watched Nightmare before Christmas for the very first 175 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 2: time because his brother, at two years old, insisted on 176 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: watching it and then watched it every single day, and 177 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: Enzo was like forced to see it. And he doesn't 178 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: like it. He thinks it's scary, And now he liked it. 179 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: Now he likes it. But the first time he saw it, 180 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: he was like, why does he like this movie? This 181 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: movie is so scary and I was like, it's not. Though. 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: I was like, I get they look a little creepy, 183 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: but they're just like spooky, it's fun. And I was like, 184 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: he's too, and he's like he's into it, into it. Yeah. 185 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: So I kind of ended up being a good thing 186 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: for him. 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: But I saw a Nightmare before Christmas for the first 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: time when I was like fifteen or something, and I 189 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: was not about it. I was like, no, I don't 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: like this. I felt like they were making it creepy 191 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: and I liked Christmas. 192 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: I was like no, uh huh. 193 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: But I rewatched it yesterday. I've rewatched it since then. 194 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: I love it. 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: But I watched it yesterday for the first time with 196 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Roz who was three, and she was mez my Ries, 197 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: mezz my Ries. 198 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: She got another. 199 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Spooky, spooky kid because she was like into it, like. 200 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, I remember last year, yeah, when you guys trigger 201 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: treated with us. She was all into the nothing. None 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: of the decorations scared her now nothing. She was right 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: there with Axel just being like this is awesome. It 204 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: might not last, but like right now, shes spooky Dookie. 205 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: She loves spooky Dookie. This season is scary for me. 206 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm a really I'm a little baby when it comes 207 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: to some of this stuff, like. 208 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: Are you yeah? 209 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I yes, I. 210 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm smiling with glee right now. Okay, 211 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. 212 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: As an actor, it's fun because like you, like if 213 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: you're on set and so something scary or like there's 214 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: blood and guts and stuff, like you. 215 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Are aware that it's fake. It's very fake. 216 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: You know you've read the script or whatever whatever whatever, right, 217 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: And like, so I did this play in London two 218 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: years ago, I think, and it was called two twenty two. 219 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: And the whole play is like scary. It's a scary, right, 220 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: It's like a scary plach of like jump scares in 221 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: it and they're scared. There's like ghosty, ghosty ideas. Like 222 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: it's fun and as somebody who loves that stuff, like 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: loves to be in it, that's one thing, right. But 224 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: the first time I read the script, I read it 225 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: at midnight and I stayed up to read it and 226 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: I was fucking scared by the end of it. I 227 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: like scared myself could not sleep like scared me. And 228 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: this is coming from someone who really likes, like I 229 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: love a true crime podcast that used to go to 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: sleep with them on all. 231 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think why I'm surprised. 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: But I cannot do a haunted house. 233 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: I can't. 234 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: I will close my eyes and bury my face into 235 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: the person in front of me. I cannot do Halloween 236 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: horror nights. 237 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: At what's it called, Oh yeah, Universal Universal. I can't 238 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: do it. 239 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: I can't even really do Ougi Boogie, Like I've never 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: bought tickets to Oogi Boogie Bash in Disneyland, and I 241 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: love Disneyland. 242 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: When we were on our honeymoon and we went to. 243 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Disneyland in Tokyo, I was pretty freaked out when we 244 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: were in the Hunted mansion because it's different and it's 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: bigger and it's spookier, and I was pretty scared. Like 246 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I was like, like I. 247 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Have my eyes closed a couple times. 248 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, Like I have memories 249 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: of being a kid and being on pirates and it 250 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: being really scary for me. Like it's like something about 251 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: not knowing where the story's going to go, or like 252 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. That is the control freak part 253 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: of my brain just gets really I cannot handle it. 254 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to watch scary movies. I'm not 255 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: real good at it, Like I have to watch with 256 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: a group and I have to make fun of them. 257 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: I can't go see a scary movie in the theater 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: because you know, no one's gonna want me to be 259 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: like doing my bits, Like yeah, only I can survive 260 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: a scary movie is or I can like sit with 261 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: my friends on the couch and like do bits. 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: I am so fascinated by this because I find true 263 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: crime stories and podcasts or movies scary movies that feel 264 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: too much like they could happen in real life, that 265 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: like don't have a ghost or supernatural element freak me 266 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: the fuck out and stress me out, and I don't 267 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to know. I don't want to know. 268 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to know about serial killers. I don't 269 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: want to know about you know, I don't want to 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: It's the reason I could never watch like the Saw movies. Like, 271 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: and I like watching scary movies, but like something about 272 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: soft felt too. 273 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,239 Speaker 1: Like I was like too gory and it's too like 274 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: like just a deranged guy. 275 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: Like even Silence of the Lambs to me was like 276 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: so much more scary than like The Ring, do you 277 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Because I was like this could 278 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: really happen like in real life, like and I and 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: I just I find those stories like so so scary. 280 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: But I love I love a scary movie. I love 281 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: a scary movie with like a supernatural or like ghost 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: element to it, I guess, and like they scare me, 283 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: but like it's a fun scary And I love going 284 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: to hotted houses and I love going to fright Night 285 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: and I love it. I love it. I love it. 286 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: It's so fun. 287 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: No no, no, like when the people are like up 288 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: on you. 289 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh yes, war. 290 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: War. So I have like a very interesting relationship I 291 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: guess with fear because like I like it. It's fun, 292 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Like it's fun to be in situations where you know 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: you're safe. Yeah, and it's a little bit scary or whatever, 294 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: but there's the moment, the moment where you don't know 295 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: it's fake. The but like I don't know my body just. 296 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: Like ugh, like I don't I don't know. 297 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I don't know, I don't know. 298 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: I yeah, Like. 299 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: What what can you think on like a time that 300 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: you felt really scared, Like what was your immediate like 301 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: how did you react to it? 302 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Well, I remember the first time that I was like 303 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: deathly scared was we had a babysitter when I was 304 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: like seven, and she let us watch Nightmare on Elm Street. 305 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: The first one. 306 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I was too scared to see Nightmare on Elm 307 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: Street when I was a kid with the bed scene 308 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: with Johnny Depp. I never saw it. 309 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Actually, it fucked me up because like the waterbed thing 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: where he gets like sucked into the water spoiler. 311 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: Lord, if you haven't seen it, this movie's like forty 312 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: years old. I remember that clip. 313 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was fucked up, and like this was somebody 314 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: that like, you know, not that my brain thought this 315 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: necessarily at the time, but like a babysitter is an adult, 316 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: so like you're like, oh, well, this must be safe 317 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: if she's letting us do it, like she had the 318 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: mindful of that and you were seven seven, I was 319 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 320 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember sitting in front. 321 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Of seven, sitting in front of the TV, being like 322 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: but there was something about it that like I couldn't 323 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: walk away from, you know, And then like there are 324 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: times where I've been scared, but it was like too real. 325 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Like when my when my sister was three, no two, 326 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: my mom was setting the table and I think we 327 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: were gonna have people come over because she was setting 328 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: steak knives on the table and there were those serrated 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: steak knives you know. 330 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll never forget I made a wood wooden handle. Yeah, 331 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: we had n there like that. 332 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were very popular in the eighties. And Jenny 333 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: was two and she was sitting on one of the 334 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: chairs the dining room table. My mom was setting the table. 335 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: My mom had very short hair at the time, very chic, 336 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: and I remember being close to my sister who was 337 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: sitting on the big chair, and my sister grabbed a 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: knife and before anybody could do anything, she took the 339 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: knife and just stabbed it straight into. 340 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: Her knee, like oh. 341 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: And there was blood everywhere. 342 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, like, oh my god. 343 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: We were in the car on Like what I remember 344 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: is us being in the Bronco on the way to 345 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: the hospital. My mom like scream crying, my sister scream crying. 346 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: My somebody had wrapped like a towel around Jenny's leg. 347 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: It was like blood was just gushing everywhere. 348 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 349 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: And then I remember being in the emergency room and 350 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: like I remember, the room was small, there was a 351 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: table over there. 352 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: My mom and dad were like in front. 353 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: Of Jenny, so I couldn't see what was happening, and 354 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: the doctor was also on the other side of the 355 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: blockade of adults. Jenny was behind them, so I couldn't see, 356 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: and I was like in a chair in the corner 357 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: of the room. And I remember laughing hysterically, like I 358 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: was hissed. 359 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: Laughing because I didn't know what to do because she 360 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: was screaming so loud. Oh my god, laugh is murder. 361 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: And like I remember, like I remember knowing like I 362 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: should not be laughing right now, but there. 363 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Was nothing like my b He was just like no. 364 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: And sometimes that's just the reaction. I have a kid 365 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: who laughs when he gets shots. He's so scared of shots, 366 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: and then every time it happens, he starts laughing. I mean, 367 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: how can it's so hot feel it's so terrifying that 368 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: you have to laugh. Yeah. 369 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: God, I'll never forget it though. On that Jenny still 370 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: has a big star. I was a frigging psychopath. 371 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: Is she laughing? 372 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: She wasn't been like, that's a sociopath. I'm a sociopaths child. 373 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: Just giggling, fucking I'll never forget it. So anyway, me 374 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: and scary things, we have a little bit of a 375 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Now there's like, have you heard about these haunted houses 376 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: where you have to sign waivers and the you're like 377 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: they can touch you and they can like do all 378 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: sorts of Like there's haunted houses where you have to 379 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: sign a waiver because they're like people have had. Maybe 380 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm like bullshitting right now, maybe this is not true. Guys, No, 381 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: don't give anything I say. 382 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: I love going to I haven't been to one in 383 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: a really long time, but when I was younger, we 384 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: used to go every year. That was like part of 385 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: our Halloween season tradition, was like to at least hit 386 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: a haunted house. The two best ones I went to. 387 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: One was an oh oh uh Headless Horseman? Where's Headless Horseman? From? Oh? 388 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 2: In New York Sleepy Hollow, sleep Hollow? Stop, you went 389 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: to a haunted house in Sleepy Hollow. Yes. First of all, 390 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Sleepy Hollow is a dope fucking place to go during 391 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: hollow times because they go all out and they had 392 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: a motherfucking real man on a real ass horse with 393 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: a pup with no head, holding the pumpkin head, riding 394 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: the horse back and forth as you waited online. I 395 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: don't like it. I don't like And then it was 396 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: like a hole. It wasn't I think, I don't think 397 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: it was a house. It was like it was a 398 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: whole outdoor maze kind of thing that you went through 399 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: and people jumped out and scared you, and the jokes 400 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: were so good. And then you saw the again at 401 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: the end and it was amazing. And I have a 402 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: really beautiful Christmas ornament of like a headless horseman from 403 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: Oh my God, that trip. I don't like it. I 404 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: don't like it, but I do like it. Yeah. And 405 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: then I went to another good one in Pennsylvania once. 406 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: Oh god, that was like very thorough and people chased 407 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: you and oh so fun. What if you trip? What 408 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: do they do they help you up? What happened to trip? Oh? 409 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't I'm not in I'm not interested. 410 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: We you know, we went to the Haunted hay Ride 411 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: once in Oh yeah, La. We waited a really long time. 412 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: Those weight lines are long, long long. We were in 413 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: line for hours, and then we finally did it, and 414 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't gonna be and it was 415 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: plure thing I was. 416 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: I had the worst war. 417 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I waited three hours in line for 418 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: what to close my eyes because I was so scared. 419 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: The whole time. Oh my God. But I do I 420 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: think there is something sort of invigorating about getting scared. 421 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of good to do once in 422 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: a while. I think it's like I don't know, I 423 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: think it's it's good for like your brain. And I 424 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: feel like when I was little, there were definitely scary 425 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: movies that like scared the shit out of me. And 426 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: Candy Man. I don't think I showered for like a 427 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: week after seeing Oh my God. I could not go 428 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: in the bathroom for anything. I was terrified of the 429 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: bathroom after Candy Man. That movie scared the shit out 430 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: of me. Absolutely not no thing. But I think that 431 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: there was something in me at that age, like those 432 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: like older kids sort of tween years, that like, even 433 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 2: though some things really scared me, there was something I 434 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: liked about it. And I think it was this little 435 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: like adrenaline thing, or this like feeling alive kind of 436 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: thing or I don't. I think that there is. I 437 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: think there can be positive things to fear. 438 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I also like, not for nothing, one of 439 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the first sex scenes I ever saw on TV or 440 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: like in a movie was a video like a VHS 441 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: with some like crappy horror movie where there was there's 442 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: always sex scenes in those movies, right. 443 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, always sex scenes. It's always like. 444 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like Virginity in the eighties 445 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: and stuff, and like people are like doing it in 446 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the woods, and like you know, we'd be like downstairs 447 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: in someone's basement, like rewinding the sex scene, you know, 448 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: like and then everyone gets killed at the end whatever whatever, 449 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: but like do the sex scene again. You know, like 450 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: there was something for me that like connected the two 451 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: in my brain because like at the time, like oh well, 452 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: let's rent the scary movie. Like nobody's gonna let you 453 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: rent like a sexy movie, but like they'll let you 454 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: rent a scary movie watching the basement with no adults. 455 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: No to self, don't let that happen. 456 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: But like you know, then there's that all the lore 457 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: about the final girl stuff. You know, like in movies, 458 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: there's like there's these tropes of like, oh, well, the 459 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: characters that have sex are definitely gonna die, you know, 460 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: there's always a final girl. 461 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what I really liked about the Scream movie. 462 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: Like the first time I saw it, I was just like, oh, 463 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: this movie is kind of brilliant, the way it's like, 464 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: oh my god, the first Scream movie. Do you remember 465 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: watching that? Brilliant brilliant? Like now you watch it and 466 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: you're like, how is this so popular? It was kind 467 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 2: of it's kind of a little bit hokey, and but 468 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: I at that time it was so good. At the time, 469 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: it was brilliant. Yeah. 470 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: I was turning those tropes on its head, and it 471 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: was like really doing things that hadn't happened before in 472 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: that genre at all. More, I have a complicated relationship 473 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: with scary stuff. 474 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: I think, uh huh yeah sense Yeah, I know. I 475 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: have to be into like a right frame of mind 476 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: to see a scary movie, which I found has been 477 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: less so since having kids. Yeah, well it's scarier. 478 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: Everything's like, everything is scarier, Like I won't be reminded 479 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: in a fear. 480 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 481 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Do you guys celebrate the attle mortos? 482 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: We don't because I didn't grow up with it. It's 483 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: something I really came to learn about when I moved 484 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: to La Yeah, I have taken the kids and I 485 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: was thinking about trying to take them this year to 486 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: the big festival that they have at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 487 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: It's really fun. We have tried to talk about it 488 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: and like teach it to our kids because we think 489 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: it's like a very healthy relationship with death and loved ones. 490 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: I think we did do in a friend that last year, 491 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: Like Enzo was learning about it in school and wanted 492 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: to do one, and I said, yeah, let's do one. 493 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: And we put, you know, like a picture of our 494 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: dog Bella, and like I think David put a picture 495 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: of his grandfather, and so yeah, I think it's it's 496 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: so beautiful. 497 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: If you don't know about the Aettles morthos, it's the 498 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: day of the Dead, and it's you know, all these 499 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: like there's this one, there's Allsool's Day. It's basically like 500 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: Halloween and all of these like ancient sort of like 501 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: holidays around this idea that like we're the veil between 502 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: the world of the living and the world of the 503 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: dead becomes thinner and so like for the other est mottos, 504 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: it's like there our ancestors kind of come back and 505 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: visit us. So like I think it's ushered in. And 506 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: like with the with animals, like starting around like the 507 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighth or something like that. 508 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: I might be full of shit, but we always. 509 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Do our dog first, like we do our pets first, 510 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: and like, okay, you like candles, you set out food 511 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: for them, and different people do it in different ways. Oh, 512 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: those like beautiful decorated sugar skulls are part of the 513 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: tradition a lot of the time. The Katrina, the skeleton, 514 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: the dress up skeleton is part of it. Like and 515 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: like I think that that's such a fun way to 516 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: honor our ancestors. It makes me think of them in 517 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: this celebratory way because I think a lot of times 518 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: death is like a really scary and sad thing, and 519 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: this is a time of year where you know death 520 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: is a part of life and and celebrating our ancestors 521 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: and like having my dad's picture on our old frienda 522 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: our altar and like lighting a candle and then like 523 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: putting out food that he liked, Like we got him 524 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: a Coca Cola last year because he loved coke even 525 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: though he was just diabetic. He was like not supposed 526 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: to be having it, so like it stuck out there 527 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: for him, you know, just stuff like we we did 528 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: them buy them though I think it's called we hang 529 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Papa Picallo. We like do the whole thing so that 530 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: Roz gets this, like because Roz is a Mexican, but 531 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: I want her growing up with as many Latino traditions 532 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: and holidays as I can, and I want her to remember, 533 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: like even from the time that she's little that like 534 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: death is a part of life, and death is something 535 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: that she doesn't always have to be scared of. It 536 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: is scary, and it can be scary to lose people, 537 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: and it's scary to think about life without people. But 538 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: it's also like they brought so much joy to us. 539 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, not that we started. 540 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: Talking about fear and like we ended on this really 541 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: sweet like yeah, as you can see, I deal with 542 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: fear vibe trying trying to befriend it. Melissa, how do 543 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you deal with fear? You think there's like a couple 544 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: of ways, right, Like what do they say? 545 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: A couple of ways? They say, yeah, you either you 546 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: can here it is that you can freeze, you can flop, 547 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 2: you can friend it. You can fight it or you 548 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: can fight run away from it. I think I probably 549 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: had well, I don't think I run away from fear. 550 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: You feel like a fighter to me, as your friend 551 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: feels like you would fight. I do sometimes. Yeah, Like, 552 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: sometimes I will do something that I'll regret later because 553 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: I was a little scared of it, Like improv shows, 554 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm always scared of them so much, 555 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: and so then I forced myself to say yes. And 556 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: I always after the fact, I'm like, okay, I'm kind. 557 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I had one good show where I was like, Okay, 558 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: I'm really glad I did that. But most of the 559 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: time I'm like, I didn't need to do that. Why 560 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: did I do that? Why did I did not need to? Yeah? 561 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: Why did I do that to myself? So yeah, I do. 562 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: I think that is sort of my my first kind 563 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: of thing. When I feel I'm scared of something, I go, well, 564 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: I guess I guess I gotta go do it. I 565 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: guess I gotta face it and like fight that thing. 566 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: I do. 567 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: I feel that way, like with work stuff, like if 568 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: I feel scared of like like that was part of 569 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: why I wanted to do something like Twisted Metal because 570 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if I could do like action, 571 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: like an action series, like a real action series where 572 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: I have to like learn fight choreography and like drive 573 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: cars and like you know, do that kind of like 574 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: action stuff like action. I wonder if I could do it. 575 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I can't do that. That's scary, 576 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and that's part of why I did it, like, 577 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: or that's part of why I wanted to do it, 578 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: you know. 579 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: And you're killing it, and I feel I think that 580 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: that's probably so empowering to know to face a fear 581 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: like that. 582 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it is scary though, Like and you 583 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: can't show fear in those rits, like because you know, 584 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: not for nothing. 585 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm I'm. It's me and Anthony Mackie. He's about to 586 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: be the new Captain America, So like I cannot show fear. 587 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm next to him and we're learning the same 588 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: fightchreography and like we're having to like team up and 589 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: do stuff, and like he's learning it so fast, he's 590 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: so strong. He's like yeah, you know, And so I 591 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: can't show fear to me. I can't show fear at 592 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: that moment because I don't want to slow the thing down. 593 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to have anybody be like that's really 594 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: just shoot it with your you know, body double or 595 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: whatever because you can't handle it. Like obviously, sometimes of 596 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: course the answer is yes, right, you know I'm not 597 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: going to be in like a car slipping. 598 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: You don't need to be. 599 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, nobody needs to be ton needs to 600 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: be doing that stuff. 601 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: And like, you know, not for nothing. 602 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: I watch Anthony and like I'm always taking notes about 603 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: like when he decides to do things and when he 604 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: sits back and lets his double do stuff, you know, 605 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: and it's always the super risky stuff is like nobody 606 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: wants us to get hurt. So but you know, you 607 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: throw yourself at it. 608 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: Because you go like I got to I gotta do it. 609 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: I gotta do anything. I'm scared. I gotta just do it. 610 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you just do it. You just do it. 611 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: But what do you think flopping on fear means? That's 612 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: on this list? What does that mean? I think it's 613 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: me when I'm in a haunted house, like I just. 614 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Go, like I close my eyes. If I could, I 615 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: would let other people carry me through a haunted house. 616 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I would literally flop down on the ground and let 617 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: other people carry me through a haunted house. 618 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: Carry you like like like physically go like yeah, but 619 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: like like a piggyback or like a cradle. 620 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to keep piggyback. Your back needs to 621 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: be to the people I need. 622 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you need to be like cradled. 623 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: That's why the Haunted Hay ride was great because we 624 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: were in the hay and they'd sit in the middle 625 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, like contained, I was contained. I closed 626 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: my eyes, I was I was Yeah, Yeah, I flop. 627 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I would flop in certain situations. I flop for sure. 628 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just go limp, Just go limp. That's what 629 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: it means. Yeah, you're just sort of it's like a 630 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: different kind of frozen state. Maybe you're still moving, but 631 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: it's just sort of floppy. 632 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: I think in terms of like why fear is fun 633 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: for us, there there is an element and it's like 634 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, science y that we we really enjoy being 635 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: scared when we know we're safe. This quote is by Regitta, 636 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: who is a doctor. Excitement is a cousin of Fear 637 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: founding director of the Yale Stress Center. At moderate levels, 638 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: fear makes you feel quote pumped up, which is that 639 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: thing that you were talking about earlier where. 640 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: You get like yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that is 641 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: the cousin of fear. 642 00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: David Klemansky, another another smart person smart person, direct of 643 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: the Psychological Assessment Service for Yale New Haven Hospitals, said, 644 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: we need to know when we're safe. 645 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Quote. 646 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Essentially, we can put ourselves in situations that are scary 647 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: because our brain knows it's not real. I will say 648 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: that that is definitely why I like listening to true 649 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: crime podcasts because I'm just but they're realm in my 650 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: car that doesn't make any sense, but they happen safe, 651 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm safe. They've talked about this on My Favorite Murder, 652 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite podcasts. Ever I can't 653 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: how like the fans of My Favorite Murder are like, 654 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: not this is not a pun, but die hard. Like 655 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: one of the great things about listening to it is 656 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: like you're listening to these really sad, sometimes horrible, graphic 657 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: sometimes but like intense stories. Some of them are just 658 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: happened in real life, that are real that happened in 659 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: real life, but like you were listening, so like you 660 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: know you're safe. You're listening in your bedroom, in your 661 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: like well home, and you're also like listening for these 662 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: tips of like you know, oh, like. 663 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: How you could survive. Okay, that I could get down Listen. 664 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: Am I ever going to help a handsome man put 665 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: some furniture in the back of his van? 666 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Never, ever, ever, No. 667 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: And they have this thing that I love that they 668 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: always say fuck politeness, which I think is key, especially 669 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: for women. I think a lot of the time we're 670 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: taught to be polite. I mean, I'm teaching my kid 671 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: to be polite all the time right that I'm also 672 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: teaching I'm going to try to teach her that when 673 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: she instinctually feels something is like wrong or like doesn't 674 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: want to that that's God only too. Yeah, you know 675 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, because like otherwise you're, you know, helping 676 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: somebody push a wheelchair up a ramp and suddenly you're 677 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: in someone's basement. That's directly from a book that I 678 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: just read, call Holly by Stephen King. Highly recommend. It's fantastic, 679 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: It's really good. Highly recommend. It's a great one. 680 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, more better. 681 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, guys, we're excited for you to enjoy spooky season. Melissa, 682 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: did you do then a new thing today about yourself 683 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: like that that. 684 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: You're are you? Are you getting more better at fear? 685 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: I guess I mean maybe, because now I'm considering listening 686 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: to true crime podcasts so that I can get survival tips. 687 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: You may have just like changed it for me. Yeah, 688 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: I think you maybe like affected me too. 689 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: I mean I think I I think I like my 690 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: own brand of scary, but I like I like some 691 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: scary things. 692 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: I'm not as much of a little. No, it's fun 693 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: to get a little, get a little, you know, it's fun. 694 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going on at house anytime soon, 695 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: but I would No, I'm not doing that with you. 696 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that with you. 697 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: My god, that sounds horrifying to me. Horrifying. I would 698 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: probably cry. 699 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: So am I more better at fear? Yes? Am I 700 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: more better at Honted houses? No? No? But yeah, this 701 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: was fun to talk about. 702 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Happy you never one, Happy elloween, Happy spooky season. 703 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: See you next time, Bye bye, more more better. 704 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: Do you have something you'd like to be more better 705 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: at that you want to talk about in a future episode? 706 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 707 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: one of our tips and tricks? 708 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 709 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: gmail dot com and include a voice note if you 710 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: want to be featured on the pod. 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