Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi ladies, Hi, Hi, who wants to just hop right in?
Speaker 1: I get a whine about it, but we're gonna wait.
Speaker 2: So I think, can I get.
Speaker 1: Like a wine day? That seems depressing, But.
Speaker 2: You know it's so funny, is we were we were
Speaker 2: on the phone chatting about Oh no, you texted the
Speaker 2: whole group. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well kat oh, I
Speaker 2: just love you guys so much. We're really I think
Speaker 2: we're all just really trying to navigate December.
Speaker 1: What happened? No, I just thought it was cute.
Speaker 2: Because I was coming on the chat to just like,
Speaker 2: you know, to say what I wanted to say to
Speaker 2: you guys. And then I was like, I'm gonna pin
Speaker 2: all of it. So I moved that whole text over
Speaker 2: to my notes and just pinned it. And then I
Speaker 2: was like that, and then I started making marks next
Speaker 2: to things that would be an overshare and then I
Speaker 2: might regret later. You mean, like everything, Wait, was I on?
Speaker 1: Was I on the text? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So then you before or you even knew, you would
Speaker 2: have no way of knowing I did that. You said
Speaker 2: I have something I need to talk about, and then
Speaker 2: you go never mind, I'm saving for the podcast. And
Speaker 2: I was like, that's my girl. Okay, so you've got
Speaker 2: something too, I do, and it's a wine it is okay,
Speaker 2: let me think of a host Charlie Fast Wait, guys,
Speaker 2: I say there's a suite. This is very shout out specific.
Speaker 2: I won't say her last name. But I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that people are binging us that have just found this podcast,
Speaker 2: and it feels so cozy to me. So Lauren has
Speaker 2: been dedicated to all of Wine Down and she is
Speaker 2: almost caught up, I know. And she said, I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna have to do when I have
Speaker 2: to wait a week. Oh that's so sat and I
Speaker 2: love that. So Lauren, I love you, and I think you're.
Speaker 1: That's the way I would do it, like TV. I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been ging it all. Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 2: was really cute. So I get about why. I just randomly,
Speaker 2: you know, our social girl. She'll send you know, follows
Speaker 2: and whatever, and a lot of times it's very much
Speaker 2: like three thousand follows, three thousand unfollows, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's like there's no real true game. I couldn't know
Speaker 2: those things right. Well, the funnest. I was like, I
Speaker 2: wonder what it's been like in the last ninety days,
Speaker 2: and it was like twelve thousand unfollows for forty thousand follows.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, you know, so it's but it's
Speaker 2: one of those things where I we lose, so we
Speaker 2: are getting, we are gaining, Yeah, listeners that can to
Speaker 2: to you know, to hear us or whatever. And the
Speaker 2: last week's episode, I can't you guys so much joy
Speaker 2: because of all when they kept saying I'm a Catherine,
Speaker 2: I'm a Christen, I'm a Jana in the group, and
Speaker 2: like this has been like oh Catherine's face talking about
Speaker 2: sexual stuff. And then even Alan so funny he walked
Speaker 2: in he goes REPG. So it's like and it's I
Speaker 2: always know, it's really funny to me. The ones that
Speaker 2: he listens to, like when he sees the clip that
Speaker 2: you know funny, Yeah, President, I actually a download, thanks babe.
Speaker 2: He goes Yesterday's in the living your and he goes, well, baby,
Speaker 2: you're just you're sharing a lot. I'm down, And I said,
Speaker 2: just tumble, little baby. I can't tumble hush, You're going
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 1: Any comfortableness in my face and my laugh and everything
Speaker 1: about that. I just was dying laughing all over again.
Speaker 2: I had the mcdeale moment where you just opened up
Speaker 2: that door and jump if you wanted out the thing.
Speaker 1: It's so funny about all of that. I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was like, it all makes me so uncomfortable that
Speaker 1: like no one would ever know truly, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like no one would never know if I
Speaker 1: wasn't gee you know what I mean? Because you are
Speaker 1: makes me so uncomfortable. I would never talk about it.
Speaker 1: And that's actually gave me a lot of satisfaction watching that,
Speaker 1: because the truth is is I just don't like to
Speaker 1: talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a lady in the streets the sheep.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. It just really made me laugh because
Speaker 1: I was like, no one will ever know.
Speaker 2: Okay, anything you want to share.
Speaker 1: No wed from that conversation.
Speaker 2: But I do, you know, as the your ends, and
Speaker 2: we'll have more of a you know, a the appreciation
Speaker 2: piece with the podcast, but you know we do. It's
Speaker 2: fun to make people laugh and then have the the
Speaker 2: deep combos too, which we really cover, which we really
Speaker 2: get to.
Speaker 1: It is definitely my favorite to be the I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the Catherine, I'm the Jana. It's just so fun because
Speaker 1: that's what's so great about us. We all have such
Speaker 1: different personalities and.
Speaker 2: We hold our man that way, which I like, like
Speaker 2: we can agree, we can also just disagree, which I like.
Speaker 1: I wonder what the roller coasters like binging it though, Oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Because I had another husband, like the urn, because that's
Speaker 2: a train wreck. So spoilers spoiler alerts. It's not a
Speaker 2: train wreck. What it was is a beautiful vulnerability. That
Speaker 2: is the one thing I think you've taught me. I've
Speaker 2: said it before, but you the way you own in
Speaker 2: the past and your drive for love I think is
Speaker 2: so admirable. And it just like it lets people also
Speaker 2: feel those things and say those things out loud, so
Speaker 2: you should not it was not a train wreck. Well,
Speaker 2: I think what's intriguing? This is better co host than him.
Speaker 2: But yes, I will say one thing. I will Yeah,
Speaker 2: I will defend my ex husband in this. He was
Speaker 2: really good with guests. He had really great guest questions.
Speaker 2: I'm in the table, my comment, go ahead, Well go
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Oh now I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's good with guests all over today we'll probably
Speaker 2: got it. It's fine, but I will say like that
Speaker 2: is where like he was a good interviewee.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I thought he was great on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I truly did. Yeah, and this is coming from you
Speaker 1: know I I truly thought he was great on it.
Speaker 1: I think he was. He's good with people, he's good
Speaker 1: at speaking, you know, all of those things. What was
Speaker 1: hard it was knowing when y'all hated each other so much,
Speaker 1: and not really hated each other, but you know, but
Speaker 1: had been fighting or whatever, something had happened. Then y'all
Speaker 1: have to get on that couch and it's just you know,
Speaker 1: and people probably can't hear that as they're listening through,
Speaker 1: as much as it's hard for us to.
Speaker 2: It is interesting though. And I had a very introspectful
Speaker 2: moment because I obviously I had a birthday last week
Speaker 2: or when this airs it'll be like two weeks or whatever.
Speaker 2: But and I get really introspective for the right word, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on my birthday, I get emotional pretty much every year
Speaker 2: I have this, and I don't and I know I'm
Speaker 2: not alone and that I have spoken to other people
Speaker 2: that have felt that same emotion that they have on
Speaker 2: their birthday. But I'm this type where and it doesn't
Speaker 2: help too when it's like shut or fly will be
Speaker 2: like here's your memories the last you know, and it's
Speaker 2: so interesting, and I know this is just again something
Speaker 2: that I was just it's not even a conversation. It's
Speaker 2: more of just like a thought. But the birthdays past,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because when you get older.
Speaker 2: So now I'm forty two and I think about where
Speaker 2: I was at thirty two, you know, or where I
Speaker 2: was at twenty two, and it's just the roads that
Speaker 2: we've taken some not the ways that I wish I
Speaker 2: would have went down, you know, but it's just I
Speaker 2: get in this. I sat in a bit of a
Speaker 2: funk on my birthday. Not because I'm not happy where
Speaker 2: I'm at. I'm very happy, but there is that sometimes
Speaker 2: it feels like time was wasted and I suffer in
Speaker 2: that where it makes me sad that like I know
Speaker 2: how precious life and time is. That it's like God,
Speaker 2: if I could I don't regret it, but if I
Speaker 2: could get a redo again, even though if I could
Speaker 2: end up kind of where I'm still at, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like and I know that's kind of saying two things.
Speaker 2: That's no. I I completely agree because there is a
Speaker 2: piece of like I'm starting to hit it. I'll be
Speaker 2: forty four soon, and I'm going, well, wait, there's all
Speaker 2: these things like that I don't want to break up
Speaker 2: with yet that I haven't tried yet, and I've done so.
Speaker 2: But then I've done so many things. But then I
Speaker 2: also have paused life for you know, a decade with
Speaker 2: a husband before Preston, and you know, like a stay
Speaker 2: at home mom part of life, and all of those
Speaker 2: things are beautiful and fruitful in all their own ways,
Speaker 2: but it also is like, well, shoot, can you start
Speaker 2: over at forty four? Like can you go chase a
Speaker 2: career that you always thought you'd have? Well, I hope so,
Speaker 2: because I don't still have the career that I want
Speaker 2: to have. Yeah, in this moment. I had it in
Speaker 2: certain periods of my life, like in my twenties when
Speaker 2: I was working on One Tree Hill. The forties are also
Speaker 2: what I wanted, right, So it's like, I hope we
Speaker 2: can still chase Yeah, the forties are also And I
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all are feeling this, but it's a
Speaker 2: really strange, like the people we admired and loved, like
Speaker 2: even as celebrities are getting older or they're passing away
Speaker 2: people that I thought were forever going to be that
Speaker 2: age in my brain, you know. And then there's also
Speaker 2: a part of me that watches, like our pairs get older.
Speaker 2: You know. Preston's parents are ten years older than my mom,
Speaker 2: and so they're getting older, and then you realize you're
Speaker 2: getting older. But I don't feel like I'm in my forties,
Speaker 2: So it's such a it's like a oh, whoa, whoa whoa,
Speaker 2: Like I start to understand that the time slow down
Speaker 2: feeling that people have. Have you guys watched that Ja
Speaker 2: Kelly George Clooney movie that just came out, No, So
Speaker 2: we watched it last night also as Adam sand lerne
Speaker 2: but you know where we're like, oh, like he's you
Speaker 2: can tell physically obviously that he's getting older, you know.
Speaker 2: But that whole movie was about essentially like you know
Speaker 2: that movie with matthe McConaughey, whereas the Christmas a Ghost
Speaker 2: of a Christmas past or whatever, and it was almost
Speaker 2: like that with his life, the j Kelly character, And
Speaker 2: that also made me start thinking about how I was
Speaker 2: feeling on my birthday was all the decisions that we
Speaker 2: make and then where we're at and that's sixty year old,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like, Okay, we still have a
Speaker 2: good chunk. I pray, you know, who knows that we
Speaker 2: could something could happen today or tomorrow, Like we still
Speaker 2: hopefully get that good chunk to to do now what
Speaker 2: we know better today, but also we might have I
Speaker 2: might never get back on the show that I want
Speaker 2: to get back on or something so, but to then
Speaker 2: still be grateful for those experiences and not be sad
Speaker 2: to not be where I want to be. So I
Speaker 2: think that's the piece too, where it's like even my husband,
Speaker 2: like he was at the top of his career in
Speaker 2: England coaching, he might not ever give that get the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Instead of being sad, it's like holding space for like
Speaker 2: how great was that to be a part of something
Speaker 2: so great? But where I always go to is I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not where I want to be. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's also hard because that can be so
Speaker 1: different in different things of your life, because like your
Speaker 1: family could be exactly where you wanted it to be,
Speaker 1: but then not be happy with where your career is
Speaker 1: or vice versa, or you know whatever. So it's holding
Speaker 1: space for both of those. Just because you can be
Speaker 1: a little disappointed that something's not the way that you
Speaker 1: wanted it to be doesn't mean you're unhappy. Does not
Speaker 1: mean that you're not happy in other areas of your life.
Speaker 1: I think that that's important to remember, sure, and shouldn't
Speaker 1: be looked over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's the people that when I think
Speaker 2: of like the seven years that I just was like
Speaker 2: grinded in that, and I'm like, could I, yes, I
Speaker 2: could have shortened that time period and I put so
Speaker 2: much just like immense amount of just like so many
Speaker 2: birthdays quote unquote, and years were wasted like fighting for
Speaker 2: something that like I was, I was never going to
Speaker 2: battle through that. We were never going to get through that,
Speaker 2: you know. And it's like thinking of, like the year
Speaker 2: is wasted, knowing how precious each year is now, but
Speaker 2: you also got a book, like you wouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to write the way you write or speak the waste.
Speaker 2: I think. I just get like really reflective. I am
Speaker 2: emotionally reflective on my birthday and it happens every year.
Speaker 2: I can't escape it. I just get emotional and like
Speaker 2: nothing will be good enough on my birthday and that's it. Well,
Speaker 2: it's okay to just know that, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I also wish for I know, we have a lot
Speaker 2: of like really young people that listen, and I just
Speaker 2: love them so much. But I really wish if I
Speaker 2: could tell them and old like younger me something it
Speaker 2: would be like to not worry and just really know
Speaker 2: that you're living in some of the best days of
Speaker 2: your life while they're happening. Because part of my I
Speaker 2: don't even like the word regret, but for lack of
Speaker 2: a better term, is just thinking like did I really
Speaker 2: soak it up the way I so that like I
Speaker 2: remember like even being on the radio and and like
Speaker 2: loving it, but then wondering, Okay, could I go to
Speaker 2: the station next, or could I do that? Or do
Speaker 2: I want to be a news anchor? And then I
Speaker 2: did road Rules and I was like, this is incredible,
Speaker 2: but I was worried about what they thought of me
Speaker 2: and how they would they want me to do another show.
Speaker 2: And I don't feel like I like fully enjoyed everything
Speaker 2: the way I wish I could have or should have
Speaker 2: while I was in it. So maybe that is the
Speaker 2: piece of wisdom to pass on to people that aren't
Speaker 2: in their forties. It's hard, though, to do that, like
Speaker 2: even today, Like even when I do a movie now
Speaker 2: and like enjoy every moment because it's three weeks and
Speaker 2: then you're gonna be out, you know, And it's still
Speaker 2: hard when you're in that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter how old you are, it happens to
Speaker 1: me all the time. I'm like, why am I not
Speaker 1: just enjoying this versus getting like upset about something or
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Well, sorry for a reflective moment. I I love your
Speaker 2: reflective moment. Here's to forty two Part two. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm calling it. I like you part two. We're having
Speaker 2: a part two.
Speaker 3: Baby, are we ready to whine about it?
Speaker 2: I think we all got something on our list.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do mine real quick, because we don't
Speaker 1: know it does not have to be quick. Well, it's not.
Speaker 1: We've probably talked about this before, but I'm just from
Speaker 1: our text yes, because I was like, shit, I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on a second, let me just We're just
Speaker 2: going to give you a little inside tea to our
Speaker 2: dear angel Cha. I just it's the I knew it
Speaker 2: was good because you don't typically use this kind of line.
Speaker 1: It's just funny because we had just talked about that.
Speaker 2: We're talking about doing getting together and then she said.
Speaker 2: Catherine's like, well, I'm coming over, and I said, fantastic.
Speaker 1: You have to say where the all right?
Speaker 2: Basically I said December twenty third, wind down lunch after podcasting.
Speaker 2: Kristin goes, yes, Catherine goes, love we still doing party?
Speaker 2: She was we still doing party on the fifteenth, by
Speaker 2: the way, I said, oh god, I don't know, ha ha,
Speaker 2: but I'm ha ha. She goes, Okay, well I'm coming over,
Speaker 2: so and then I said, fan fantastic. Kristin goes. That
Speaker 2: made me laugh out loud. I said what we all
Speaker 2: need right now. Catherine goes, you know what's actually hilarious. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'll save it for the podcast. KB goes save it.
Speaker 2: She goes, all day I have been pinning and then
Speaker 2: trying not to let hormones determine my overshare. That was
Speaker 2: our That is way better because that's just so us
Speaker 2: and go.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because we had
Speaker 1: just had this conversation and I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: who as talking about it, but someone we were just
Speaker 1: having a conversation about the cleaner's coming. Okay, let's just
Speaker 1: talk about it.
Speaker 2: I'll say it. Okay, this is me because I'll say
Speaker 2: it right now.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I'll totally out myself. And this happened on
Speaker 2: my birthday. I and that's I will never have the
Speaker 2: maids come on my birthday again. I'm a psycho when
Speaker 2: the maids come, I just am every other Tuesday. Because
Speaker 2: the deal is is that everyone in my household things.
Speaker 2: The maids put things away. They don't. We have to
Speaker 2: put it away for them to clean, because if not,
Speaker 2: they will lift up the thing and they'll wipe under
Speaker 2: it and they'll put it down. So that is why
Speaker 2: when everyone's like, why is mom a psycho on May Day? Well,
Speaker 2: because I have to put everything away. We clean for
Speaker 2: the cleaning people. This is Preston's biggest argument. And it's like,
Speaker 2: well you're always so strossedtone like yes, because I need
Speaker 2: to like this has to be put everything needs to
Speaker 2: be put away. But and now they all know, I'll
Speaker 2: just say that.
Speaker 1: They're all aware, do they know?
Speaker 2: Well we'll see next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so forward, I go out of town. Our
Speaker 1: cleaners come every other Monday. It says on Monday, cleaners come.
Speaker 1: It says on Sunday clean for cleaners. Okay, However, I,
Speaker 1: in the way that I work, send a reminder text
Speaker 1: Sunday morning that says, hey, make sure the house is
Speaker 1: clean for cleaners tomorrow. I get there when the cleaners
Speaker 1: are there, this house is a disaster.
Speaker 2: As they're cleaning, I already asked for what.
Speaker 1: He literally lost my mind. And I wasn't even still
Speaker 1: on my period.
Speaker 2: I'm just say I was like seven days waiting for
Speaker 2: mine late, so like I was already.
Speaker 1: Like already, but it wasn't even that. I didn't even
Speaker 1: feel that rage. I felt like utter like disrespect, like sorry,
Speaker 1: I love you, but like is what it is I
Speaker 1: have never felt. So I was just like, and then.
Speaker 2: The you will say honey, I love you, because he's listening.
Speaker 1: If it's a clip, I do love you. And you're
Speaker 1: great at a lot of things. It used to be
Speaker 1: a great cleaner. I don't know what he used to
Speaker 1: be cleaner than me. But I mean, so they're there,
Speaker 1: they've already done the upstairs, have already skipped half the
Speaker 1: shit because there's stuff everywhere.
Speaker 2: Because they won't. Yeah, because obviously that's not their job. No,
Speaker 2: I have photos, y'all.
Speaker 1: I mean I literally because he literally responds to me,
Speaker 1: I cleaned for hours, and I'm like, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what I'm not sure what happened, and I'm sure he did,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, the so come to find out, which
Speaker 1: this is a lesson for everyone in my home. People
Speaker 1: were responsible, as they should for different spots. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: Emmy's out of town, her rooms clean before we left.
Speaker 1: Cayden puts Ramsey in charge of the second back half
Speaker 1: of the bonus room, which couldn't be more obvious in ever.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, so, now I have a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old and a forty whatever four year old man blaming
Speaker 1: the nine year old for not cleaning.
Speaker 2: Look at look, look, I just look after.
Speaker 1: How hard is it?
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how validating it is. I was
Speaker 2: made to feel like a true psycho for my psychonists.
Speaker 1: No, you guys clean, y'all.
Speaker 2: This is the most validating moment I've had in a
Speaker 2: long time, because Preston, we you know, we lost Saint Christine,
Speaker 2: and so I immediately said I'm going to get I
Speaker 2: haven't had cleaning people in the years, they've come one
Speaker 2: time before a party, like, but that's it. And so
Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to treat yourself. Is that still
Speaker 2: a thing? I thought, I'll bring them back and that
Speaker 2: will just make me feel like good, you know, twice
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No one in my home understands cleaning for the cleaning people,
Speaker 2: no one. And I also respect my cleaning people so
Speaker 2: much and their time these people have, so that's what
Speaker 2: other things to do. They have other homes that they've
Speaker 2: committed to. They can't spend hours cleaning up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you just disrespected the three cleaning ladies in
Speaker 1: our house and me, I mean, granted, I was not
Speaker 1: what did they say? I mean, you know, at first
Speaker 1: Nick was like, oh I cleaned for hours, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But then when I started sending photos, He's like, I understand,
Speaker 1: that's my bad.
Speaker 2: I should have looked to make sure I'd admit that.
Speaker 1: Yes he did. And then Ramsey was responsible for that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you are sick. You could you help
Speaker 1: me out and just go and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my bad. And I when I went into his closet,
Speaker 1: I'm like, when you clean your room the closets included,
Speaker 1: which this is all three of my children, so just
Speaker 1: just like all the dirty clothes and the I'm like,
Speaker 1: bring it in the laundry. But this also goes too.
Speaker 1: It was funny, and that's why I had to say,
Speaker 1: this is really freaking hilarious. After we just had this conversation.
Speaker 1: But then the conversation come up of you sprung it
Speaker 1: on me. That was the conversation that was had this morning.
Speaker 1: He goes, well, you kind of sprung it on me,
Speaker 1: and I go, it's on the calendar, everybody, Well, I
Speaker 1: don't look ahead. Well on Sunday it says clean for
Speaker 1: the cleaners, like I don't know, and the text and
Speaker 1: I will it is a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: It is kind of frustrating because I've even made comments
Speaker 2: so now on Monday, because I know every other Tuesday
Speaker 2: the cleaning lady will come. So on Monday, I will
Speaker 2: I will start putting things away and be like okay,
Speaker 2: because I don't want to be a psycho. On Tuesday morning,
Speaker 2: you know when the kid are out, because they come
Speaker 2: at eight in the morning. Right when the kids are
Speaker 2: I'm bustling them out of you know, to get to
Speaker 2: the bus and stuff, busting them back to the door.
Speaker 2: And so I try to start doing it Monday, putting
Speaker 2: things away that are on the counters or in the
Speaker 2: kids room, playrooms or whatever. And it's like, yeah, so
Speaker 2: you're not crazy tomorrow, and I'm like, well, I would
Speaker 2: like to not be if I could have a little help,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And they'll start all ganging up on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the kids will start and it's like, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Instead of letting us get to that place, why don't
Speaker 1: we all see it hear it and start helping.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The best part. He's like, well, I don't know
Speaker 2: what what I'm supposed to do. He's like, because I
Speaker 2: don't know where the sheets are. And I go, well,
Speaker 2: this is a really fun fact, man. I go every
Speaker 2: room as a basket and it's labeled sheets. So I said,
Speaker 2: what happens is is I then take those sheets. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: how do I know which one sheets?
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 2: They're all color coordinated, I said, which is great. So
Speaker 2: it's like they're all the same color, all the same pillowcases.
Speaker 2: I said, So you take those sheets and you just
Speaker 2: plup them on their bed, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's I guess it just doesn't actually get any easier
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. And then I started thinking it
Speaker 1: would have gotten done in the sense that the cleaners
Speaker 1: would have come and it would have been clean ish,
Speaker 1: but like, I want it better. I think that's my thing.
Speaker 1: Like there are certain things where I'm like, it just
Speaker 1: is what it is, and that's fine and it's no
Speaker 1: big deal. But then there are certain things where I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I think it just needs to be better. A very
Speaker 1: good example was also while I was gone, oh sorry.
Speaker 2: When KK is in these moods, it gave me life.
Speaker 1: I explained to him something that has always been the
Speaker 1: case about when Ramsey goes to bed and when she
Speaker 1: puts herself away, and the response was, you're just better
Speaker 1: at this than I am. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: think that's supposed to be a compliment, not what I
Speaker 1: want to hear. It's not about being better. Just do it, Like,
Speaker 1: just do I know what the thing is? Like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't I but I don't get it nothing. He
Speaker 1: didn't respond, yeah, because I think he probably felt like
Speaker 1: I wanted to fight, because sometimes I do, but truthfully,
Speaker 1: I just want it to be done right.
Speaker 2: And I also just don't like, oh I'm deciding to
Speaker 2: whether I'm saying this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just attacked my husband for about twenty No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that.
Speaker 2: It's not to diminish so I'm gonna save. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna say I have worked my ass off my entire life.
Speaker 2: I worked through college. I built a resume that was
Speaker 2: so epic, you know, And and I decided, we as
Speaker 2: a family, decided to table that so that I could
Speaker 2: do I could steward well the gifts inside of our house.
Speaker 2: And I everyone knows that I love and enjoy that responsibility.
Speaker 2: And I also deserve the respect that I'm not made
Speaker 2: like this isn't I'm not. I didn't do all that
Speaker 2: so that I could throw away a string cheese wrapper
Speaker 2: that it's literally above the garbage can because you couldn't
Speaker 2: open the garbage can. Like that's not it's just not
Speaker 2: fair to me. So it's like disrespectful. It's how I
Speaker 2: always feel. It feels like you don't value me, and
Speaker 2: that is the bigger feeling. And that's why I'm psycho.
Speaker 2: Is not psycho, it's just going like are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Is this really? Like? No one else it goes wow.
Speaker 2: You know, Like I remember doctor Phil said something decades ago.
Speaker 2: I've always been an og doctor Philler, and this is
Speaker 2: literally I was probably like in my twenties. He said,
Speaker 2: if you wake up in the morning as a husband
Speaker 2: and you say how can I make my wife's day better?
Speaker 2: And the wife wakes up in the morning and says,
Speaker 2: how can I make my husband's day better? You are
Speaker 2: bound for greatness.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All I want to do is just have people wake
Speaker 2: up and go like I'm always thinking how I can
Speaker 2: make their day better?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's thinking about me?
Speaker 2: I know Preston brust is. I know he is. I
Speaker 2: know he is, and it's in different ways, in different languages.
Speaker 2: And but I have never been really an act of
Speaker 2: service gal and maybe I'm just turning into one.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's changing.
Speaker 2: I think what I do appreciate Catherine, what you're saying though, too,
Speaker 2: and I totally hear what you're saying as well, KB.
Speaker 2: But with you asked him days ahead of time, put calendar.
Speaker 2: I think that's the part where it's like I don't
Speaker 2: know how else I could have. It's like I don't
Speaker 2: feel seen, I feel heard, and that peace as a
Speaker 2: woman it's like I've already said, it's not like you were.
Speaker 2: You weren't making Nick read his mind, read your mind,
Speaker 2: and that's the death that we have all done as women.
Speaker 2: Read my mind for what I need to happen right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: so my husband actually didn't know. He's like, well, the
Speaker 2: maids back in Scotland, in England, they put everything away,
Speaker 2: so that's I was like, okay, well, that's not how
Speaker 2: it is here. That's how it's never been for the
Speaker 2: last two years of you living here, which is why
Speaker 2: you know so, but now you know, so maybe there'll
Speaker 2: be something you know. But with you, it's like you
Speaker 2: you he Nick knows this, you know, and you gave
Speaker 2: him reminders. And that's the part as women where we
Speaker 2: go to, I gave you reminders. Now you didn't even acknowledge.
Speaker 2: Now I feel disrespected, I don't feel seen, I don't
Speaker 2: feel heard, and now I'm frustrated. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: frustrating that then they'll maybe get upset about a reaction. Yes,
Speaker 2: because hello, we have then a right to be frustrated
Speaker 2: that we have set it up so beautifully in this
Speaker 2: lovely package for you.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, and it's not like I usually don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I usually have them help me. But I guess the
Speaker 1: reality is I do the majority of it, you know.
Speaker 1: So then it's like, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: We like our we like to actually put things away
Speaker 2: where they actually go.
Speaker 1: Right, But I just I want everyone to help me.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to help me, and they did.
Speaker 2: Then it's not all on us. That's why I keep
Speaker 2: telling them a little compound interest.
Speaker 1: I'm not even that picky, but maybe that's why I've
Speaker 1: gotten it to this point too. You know, part of
Speaker 1: me looks at it. I'm like, Okay, I do kind
Speaker 1: of clean up after them, or I don't make them all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I make them clean their rooms. I do
Speaker 1: they do chores stuff like that. But like I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're going to have to just like start over. I
Speaker 1: don't know my kids are hold Like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know at this point. No, But anyway, so I came
Speaker 1: home to that and I literally cleaned while the cleaning
Speaker 1: ladies were there when I was tired when I got home,
Speaker 1: and I was just not very happy about it.
Speaker 2: Well, girl, that is an amazing wine. And I feel
Speaker 2: validated in my because I was again made to feel
Speaker 2: like just such an ungrateful Yeah, personally, and.
Speaker 1: I know we go a little crazy, but also like
Speaker 1: just help.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but we're not going together. We're not going
Speaker 2: crazy for no reason. That's always my thing. I'm not
Speaker 2: just flying off the handle being a psycho. Right, I
Speaker 2: know this, And this is what I told Alan to
Speaker 2: and you know, you know the kiddos, it's actually Mommy's
Speaker 2: not upset that she's cleaning. It's how Mommy feels about
Speaker 2: not being understood or seen in this moment. So it's
Speaker 2: not about the cleaning. I don't mind cleaning. I love cleaning, right,
Speaker 2: It's that I am feeling like it's all falling on
Speaker 2: my shoulders, which then makes me feel disrespected, not seen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and not appreciating that.
Speaker 1: I don't do well with feeling like it's all on
Speaker 1: my shoulders. Yeah, I definitely I acknowledge that. And some
Speaker 1: women do some women actually enjoy that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they enjoy it, but I do have
Speaker 1: friends that like choose for it more to be that way.
Speaker 1: That's never been us, that's never been our relationship. We've
Speaker 1: you know, that's just not how we work.
Speaker 2: So to start now, Wow, a New Year's resolution for
Speaker 2: the family. Yeah, would you like to? I got ghosted
Speaker 2: by my cleaning ladies, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I had some valuable feedback.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to be together. It
Speaker 2: was a wild time. She used the microwave but didn't
Speaker 2: clean it. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had complaints about all of my complete
Speaker 1: I almost texted you to ask.
Speaker 2: For yeah now, but you know, will they ever do
Speaker 2: it that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: We are right? We're well. I just thought it was weird.
Speaker 2: I'm like, a strange thing to use one's microwave, considering
Speaker 2: you're probably only wants to use it. Creamer, what's your wine?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: It happened again on my birthday. But it wasn't It
Speaker 2: didn't involve it didn't involve us, so my wine. It
Speaker 2: was just it bothered me and I and I almost
Speaker 2: wanted to say something to the person next to me,
Speaker 2: which I didn't, but I wanted to. I have I
Speaker 2: get really upset for so one, Like there was a
Speaker 2: couple next to us at dinner that were clearly on
Speaker 2: a date, husband and wife, probably been married. Let's just
Speaker 2: say for a while, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've been married for a while. But the
Speaker 2: amount of times that the husband took his phone out no,
Speaker 2: during the date. And it's not like he was like
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, maybe he's a doctor, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, maybe this is maybe it is
Speaker 2: so I knows the cheeks was like he's right there,
Speaker 2: and so I'm just like a lean back. He's just
Speaker 2: on Instagram. No, you know what I mean, he's not
Speaker 2: a doctor. Like no, And but like literally the amount
Speaker 2: of times. And what I did then was I looked
Speaker 2: at the wife and the wife is just like, you know,
Speaker 2: putting her head down, like looking away, but like it
Speaker 2: made me sad, Like it makes me sad, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to be like, dude, put your fucking phone down,
Speaker 2: and like why you're on a date with your wife? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it really bothers me? Does that bother
Speaker 2: you guys? No? I just imagine Alan having a whine
Speaker 2: about it. It was like I took jan out for birthday
Speaker 2: dinner and all she did was he at the table,
Speaker 2: which is really bad to me. I'm really have a
Speaker 2: love I actually just have a hate hate with the phone.
Speaker 2: I know that the phone is an essential piece of
Speaker 2: our business, specifically with my husband. It is he doesn't
Speaker 2: have an office, he doesn't have a computer. This is
Speaker 2: an hour and fifteen minutes so during a dinner. But
Speaker 2: that's it. We just we're just be like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 2: I want to check make sure that the sitter is good,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I'll do that every
Speaker 2: once in a while, just to make sure that baby's down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but the just like scrolling in a date.
Speaker 2: I don't cat.
Speaker 1: I know you Like, I mean, I'm kind of bad
Speaker 1: about it, so I can't say a whole lot, but it.
Speaker 1: Nick's not terrible at that. The kids can be, though,
Speaker 1: And so I've started to notice that. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you and I and Emmy did point
Speaker 1: out to me one time, she's like, you're not very
Speaker 1: good at either. I was like, you, you are so right,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I am trying to teach you so y'all
Speaker 1: will be better at it. But like I need to
Speaker 1: be good too. But I have really started if I'm
Speaker 1: even if she's on it already, because a lot of
Speaker 1: time she'll already be on it and I'll start talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, but I was already doing something, and I
Speaker 1: was like, totally understand, So why don't you say, hey,
Speaker 1: just give me one second, let me finish doing that,
Speaker 1: and then put it down. So I'm trying to teach
Speaker 1: them to do better, and I am trying when people
Speaker 1: are talking to me to do better. But if we're
Speaker 1: just like sitting there, I am bad at scrolling. Even
Speaker 1: on a date, I try not to be Oh god,
Speaker 1: it's been so long since we've even been on a date.
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, when's the last date night you've had?
Speaker 1: A wedding? That was all we've definitely had.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, yeah, but one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time for us.
Speaker 1: I mean dinner, you know, like when the kids aren't home,
Speaker 1: like we'll just run and get dinner. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like I can, you know. But I do try
Speaker 1: to do better at it. But if like we're both
Speaker 1: like not in a conversation, I think we'll kind of
Speaker 1: naturally just pick it up sometimes and then just kind
Speaker 1: of naturally put it down.
Speaker 2: Like I'm good for silence when it's at like if
Speaker 2: we're in a date or whatever. Yeah, but if it's
Speaker 2: like a prolonged silence, I start to go really heady,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, do we not have anything to talk about?
Speaker 2: Like you know that is so you I'm like, why
Speaker 2: is what do we even talk about? Like is it
Speaker 2: not interested in one? Like yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think keep run out of things to talk about. See.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, That's how I feel sometimes, I
Speaker 2: totally because we just talk five day when things talk,
Speaker 2: when things happen, I think, yeah, see, and we're never
Speaker 2: going to run out because we never see each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, And I mean truly, it's like a I
Speaker 1: text in the moment when anything happens, So once we
Speaker 1: get to the end of the day, it's like it's like.
Speaker 2: I love that you do that we already the kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like a I don't know, just
Speaker 1: kind of a reaction, like we're not once to necessarily
Speaker 1: like call and talk on the phone if we're traveling
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, but I've texted him
Speaker 1: everything that's happened that day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: No, I think that Allen and I are not like
Speaker 2: that at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I started noticing that that's different from people. That's why
Speaker 1: I bring that up because I had pointed out with
Speaker 1: some other like just cheer mom froms At one point,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you talked him at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, and she's like, yeah, I'm updating them through
Speaker 1: my day. I was like, oh, like I've you know's
Speaker 1: everything that's happened today. Yeah, we kind of do. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what we do.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, can you believe you know, Like I
Speaker 2: kinda yeah, but I don't. We also like I miss
Speaker 2: really big pieces of his business and stuff because it's
Speaker 2: moving so fast, and.
Speaker 1: I do miss like business stuff. Now. We used to
Speaker 1: talk about business stuff a lot, but we kind of
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I love talking business with my husband.
Speaker 1: I used to. I'm glad we don't as much anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's aggervational business. So I'm just like, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to know half the time. So now I think
Speaker 1: it's just better that I just don't even know what's
Speaker 1: going on a lot of the time because it'll frustrate me.
Speaker 2: Business pressing is hot to me. Yeah, you know, like Preston, Preston,
Speaker 2: I do need to do. We do like talking business, like, okay, data,
Speaker 2: tell me about that cod like if.
Speaker 1: He has like a business thing or whatever. I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 1: you should do this or that, Like I do love
Speaker 1: that stuff to have a good brain. And so maybe
Speaker 1: we would talk more about that on date night now
Speaker 1: because we don't during the day.
Speaker 2: I need a date night. Kimora Lee Simmons reacts. It's
Speaker 2: to shock of daughter Aoki Lee dating a man who
Speaker 2: is forty four years older. So she's opening how she
Speaker 2: really felt about her daughter twenty one then dated a
Speaker 2: sixty five year old back in twenty twenty four. She
Speaker 2: tells the host on this podcast that she found it
Speaker 2: predatorial but wants to let her daughter make her own mistakes.
Speaker 2: They recently were not recently, but they briefly spent time
Speaker 2: together in twenty twenty four before parting ways. As a mom, ladies,
Speaker 2: how would you handle that situation?
Speaker 1: Did you say? Twenty one and sixty five?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, forty four years apart?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wild, that's hard. I mean, what can you actually
Speaker 1: do when they're a twenty one year old? Not much,
Speaker 1: but I can promise you I'm giving my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think is an acceptable gap?
Speaker 1: That's not it for me. I hate I mean, and
Speaker 1: the come out I just I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it is that you're still so close to eighteen, like
Speaker 1: you're not far removed from still being a child. So
Speaker 1: that does feel I'm sorry, I agree, it feels a
Speaker 1: little predatorial to me.
Speaker 2: Well think about it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come with me for that.
Speaker 2: But I have been born and I've lived to you
Speaker 2: guys know me in this moment in forty four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That is a huge that is eight I mean, he
Speaker 2: has kids, he's had, you know, grandkids.
Speaker 1: It's hard. That's hard.
Speaker 2: That's a really big gap.
Speaker 1: Having said that, if my daughter said, I hear you,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, I still choose I would
Speaker 1: never cut anyone out. I would never not be kind,
Speaker 1: I would never not do any of those things. But
Speaker 1: I would definitely be very honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, man, I thought my seventeen year gap
Speaker 2: was a Yeah, it was a big one. And then
Speaker 2: you look at like, you know, David Foster and Katherine mcpee,
Speaker 2: their difference is thirty four to thirty five years. But
Speaker 2: isn't she thirty something years old? Well, David Foster's seventy five,
Speaker 2: she's forty, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why that's also a little different. She just still feels
Speaker 1: so young at twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like it seems to me that
Speaker 2: it would be easier. Like when I look at Catherine David,
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're adorable together like that. It's yeah, so
Speaker 2: what it's thirty plus years, But when it's twenty one,
Speaker 2: I see, like that's tough. But I also understand that
Speaker 2: they have to make their own their own choices and decisions.
Speaker 2: But I would definitely voice my concern.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot even past that. It's like,
Speaker 1: you're still only twenty and they're gonna you know, I
Speaker 1: mean children and getting old and there's just a lot
Speaker 1: there that will affect a life.
Speaker 2: There's still just such a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 2: Marciano Brunette sues Secret Lives of Mormon wives dem after
Speaker 2: sexual assault claims. So In the legal document obtained by
Speaker 2: US Weekly Our Friends February. On Friday, December fifth, vander
Speaker 2: pump Villas Starr said they that he was falsely described
Speaker 2: as a sexual predator, allegations which he has damaged his reputation.
Speaker 2: The legal team says basically that he insisted any physical
Speaker 2: interaction between them was consensual. So, guys, what does your
Speaker 2: take on all this. Have you did you finish watching?
Speaker 1: I did not, Okay, I am up on like what's
Speaker 1: going on with them or whatever though.
Speaker 2: Because to me is very much like you know, and again,
Speaker 2: I think any woman feels scared to come out than
Speaker 2: to not be believed in this situation. So that's that's
Speaker 2: where it's just like, so they had, but also I
Speaker 2: get someone's if it wasn't sorry, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because then it also does ruin people's reputation too.
Speaker 1: And now we just you know, it's so hard because
Speaker 1: once something is said on any way, it kind of
Speaker 1: just gets taken. And I've never been a fan of
Speaker 1: like suing for things. I'm just like, we're so soue
Speaker 1: happy now, but how else do you kind of clear
Speaker 1: your name in situations?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of your only way sometimes.
Speaker 2: Are they the two I might be getting my Mormon
Speaker 2: wives confused? Are they the two that had they the
Speaker 2: fair alleged affair. No, that was Jesse and Marciano. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you to May apparently also had kissed, but she
Speaker 2: said that there was some unwanted touch as well, and
Speaker 2: Marciano said that it's absolutely not the case and so
Speaker 2: she's come out to say that she's, you know, he
Speaker 2: been sexually assaulted by him, and now he's saying that's
Speaker 2: not the case. And now my reputation is being ruined
Speaker 2: because you said X, Y and Z. Well, how does
Speaker 2: that feel for him? I'm wondering because he did the
Speaker 2: same thing to Jesse. He said that they had sex
Speaker 2: and then later said that they didn't.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good point feels a little can ruin reputations? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and things right said right, And that's just what I
Speaker 1: think people forget and we as consumers hear it and
Speaker 1: think it as fact, no matter kind of what it is,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm not just saying because obviously
Speaker 1: I believe a girl when they say that they've been done,
Speaker 1: just saying, no matter what it is, you hear it,
Speaker 1: you kind of take it as fact. Well, this is
Speaker 1: what happened. Sure, So how do you prove how do
Speaker 1: you prove any how do you prove what it's true
Speaker 1: in any of that?
Speaker 2: You known't know. That's tough, but it's not lost on
Speaker 2: me that he said, yeah, that's interesting, really untrue things,
Speaker 2: And now that he's dealing with people saying untrue things.
Speaker 1: Well, we're allegedly true. Yeah, it's all allegedly right.
Speaker 2: My sons are twins, but one of them has special needs.
Speaker 2: His brother used to be super protective of him. As
Speaker 2: we have entered teenage years, his brother has gone from
Speaker 2: his protector to almost his bully to maybe feel more
Speaker 2: included with the other kids. He doesn't want him hanging
Speaker 2: out with him and his friends as much as as
Speaker 2: much and excludes him. We have had many conversations in
Speaker 2: working with a therapist, but I thought I would see
Speaker 2: if you had any advice. I think it's hard to
Speaker 2: give advice on a situation we haven't lived at all. Also,
Speaker 2: I know twins have an interesting dynamic no matter the circumstances,
Speaker 2: because I've had friends that are twins and it's been
Speaker 2: both ways. I've had a twin sisters, two sets of twins,
Speaker 2: and one of the sisters they can't even breathe without
Speaker 2: each other and it's so cool to me. And then
Speaker 2: the other ones have said like I always hated that
Speaker 2: I shared a day and felt like everything we did
Speaker 2: was shared, and I never got to be an individual.
Speaker 2: And so I think developmentally it's probably tricky as a
Speaker 2: teenager to go. I really do want my friends and
Speaker 2: I want to be my own person, and also, of
Speaker 2: course he loves his brother, and then to add the
Speaker 2: special needs layer is probably extra hard. But I don't
Speaker 2: have the situation, so I don't know that I have
Speaker 2: any room to give advice. But maybe this is the
Speaker 2: point in life where they both get to make their
Speaker 2: own friends, and you focus on them making their own
Speaker 2: friendship circles and becoming more individual and it's not that
Speaker 2: one's left out if the other one can maybe plug
Speaker 2: in somewhere else, Yeah, that you have more of this
Speaker 2: age group.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to that a it's important
Speaker 1: to always go back to is it bullying or excluding?
Speaker 1: I think that's important how you play on the words.
Speaker 1: Is he actually bullying his brother? And if he is
Speaker 1: addressed that immediately that's unacceptable. We can't have that. If
Speaker 1: it's excluding, then clearly this twin probably wants to have
Speaker 1: his own friendships and that's something that's going to have
Speaker 1: to be helped and nurtured on the other side, especially
Speaker 1: with special needs, and maybe there's times to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you can have this time with just your friend, but
Speaker 1: this time I need you to include your brother because
Speaker 1: he doesn't have anybody or he doesn't have this right now,
Speaker 1: and I think that there's ways to just really just
Speaker 1: gonna have to walk it with them and really help
Speaker 1: guide how they have to handle that. But knowing that
Speaker 1: bullying is never okay, but then wanting to have only
Speaker 1: friends and not always having to include your brother is
Speaker 1: also okay.
Speaker 2: So fine line, we walk that fine line with that
Speaker 2: piece of it where it's because there's it's all girls
Speaker 2: in our neighborhood, yeah, at Jolie's age, and it is
Speaker 2: just I mean, there are so many fourth grade girls
Speaker 2: in this neighborhood and there's only one boy that's in
Speaker 2: first grade. And so obviously Jolie has a lot of
Speaker 2: her friends over here all the time, and it's Jace
Speaker 2: feels left out. And so but I've noticed that I
Speaker 2: have been like, let let your brother play, but it's like, no,
Speaker 2: she also needs that time too with her friends. And
Speaker 2: so it's finding all right, Jayce, what can we do
Speaker 2: special together? Or let me see if I can get
Speaker 2: you play date over or but then also remembering, hey,
Speaker 2: so you now we've had you know, his other buddies
Speaker 2: come over and they're up there, and I think having
Speaker 2: them happy in the same space but saying like, remember,
Speaker 2: like be kind to your brother, be nice, because we
Speaker 2: don't want anyone to feel feelings, hurt or feel left out.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely as a whole. So I think that applies
Speaker 1: here perfectly as well. But ladies, well we.
Speaker 2: Sure got it out system. Get to clean and ladies,
Speaker 2: and yeah, we'll see if we all survive the next
Speaker 2: the next May day. Oh, our family survive is the question?
Speaker 1: Real quick? I do have a quick question though, And
Speaker 1: did you do no phone Sunday?
Speaker 2: We could not because Alan had to work. Ok, we
Speaker 2: are going to Okay, so we are going to It
Speaker 2: is still on the stage. He's going to be gone
Speaker 2: for a minute, and then when he's back, we're going
Speaker 2: to do great. Yes, I have a big news pin
Speaker 2: but I'm pinning for two weeks. Oh oh, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't so yeah, see you next week. Bye,