WEBVTT - A Clean Sweep

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi ladies, Hi, Hi, who wants to just hop right in?

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<v Speaker 1>I get a whine about it, but we're gonna wait.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, can I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a wine day? That seems depressing, But.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's so funny, is we were we were

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone chatting about Oh no, you texted the

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<v Speaker 2>whole group. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well kat oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>just love you guys so much. We're really I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're all just really trying to navigate December.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? No, I just thought it was cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was coming on the chat to just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to say what I wanted to say to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. And then I was like, I'm gonna pin

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. So I moved that whole text over

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<v Speaker 2>to my notes and just pinned it. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like that, and then I started making marks next

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<v Speaker 2>to things that would be an overshare and then I

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<v Speaker 2>might regret later. You mean, like everything, Wait, was I on?

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<v Speaker 1>Was I on the text? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So then you before or you even knew, you would

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<v Speaker 2>have no way of knowing I did that. You said

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<v Speaker 2>I have something I need to talk about, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you go never mind, I'm saving for the podcast. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's my girl. Okay, so you've got

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<v Speaker 2>something too, I do, and it's a wine it is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think of a host Charlie Fast Wait, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I say there's a suite. This is very shout out specific.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say her last name. But I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>that people are binging us that have just found this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels so cozy to me. So Lauren has

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<v Speaker 2>been dedicated to all of Wine Down and she is

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<v Speaker 2>almost caught up, I know. And she said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm gonna have to do when I have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait a week. Oh that's so sat and I

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<v Speaker 2>love that. So Lauren, I love you, and I think you're.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way I would do it, like TV. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been ging it all. Yeah, I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was really cute. So I get about why. I just randomly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our social girl. She'll send you know, follows

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever, and a lot of times it's very much

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<v Speaker 2>like three thousand follows, three thousand unfollows, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like there's no real true game. I couldn't know

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<v Speaker 2>those things right. Well, the funnest. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what it's been like in the last ninety days,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like twelve thousand unfollows for forty thousand follows.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, okay, you know, so it's but it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where I we lose, so we

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<v Speaker 2>are getting, we are gaining, Yeah, listeners that can to

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, to hear us or whatever. And the

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<v Speaker 2>last week's episode, I can't you guys so much joy

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<v Speaker 2>because of all when they kept saying I'm a Catherine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Christen, I'm a Jana in the group, and

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<v Speaker 2>like this has been like oh Catherine's face talking about

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<v Speaker 2>sexual stuff. And then even Alan so funny he walked

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<v Speaker 2>in he goes REPG. So it's like and it's I

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<v Speaker 2>always know, it's really funny to me. The ones that

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<v Speaker 2>he listens to, like when he sees the clip that

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<v Speaker 2>you know funny, Yeah, President, I actually a download, thanks babe.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes Yesterday's in the living your and he goes, well, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just you're sharing a lot. I'm down, And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>just tumble, little baby. I can't tumble hush, You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Any comfortableness in my face and my laugh and everything

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I just was dying laughing all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the mcdeale moment where you just opened up

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<v Speaker 2>that door and jump if you wanted out the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny about all of that. I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it all makes me so uncomfortable that

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<v Speaker 1>like no one would ever know truly, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like no one would never know if I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gee you know what I mean? Because you are

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<v Speaker 1>makes me so uncomfortable. I would never talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's actually gave me a lot of satisfaction watching that,

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<v Speaker 1>because the truth is is I just don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like a lady in the streets the sheep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying. It just really made me laugh because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no one will ever know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anything you want to share.

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<v Speaker 1>No wed from that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do, you know, as the your ends, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have more of a you know, a the appreciation

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<v Speaker 2>piece with the podcast, but you know we do. It's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to make people laugh and then have the the

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<v Speaker 2>deep combos too, which we really cover, which we really

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<v Speaker 2>get to.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely my favorite to be the I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the Catherine, I'm the Jana. It's just so fun because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's so great about us. We all have such

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<v Speaker 1>different personalities and.

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<v Speaker 2>We hold our man that way, which I like, like

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<v Speaker 2>we can agree, we can also just disagree, which I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what the roller coasters like binging it though, Oh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I had another husband, like the urn, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>a train wreck. So spoilers spoiler alerts. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>train wreck. What it was is a beautiful vulnerability. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the one thing I think you've taught me. I've

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<v Speaker 2>said it before, but you the way you own in

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<v Speaker 2>the past and your drive for love I think is

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<v Speaker 2>so admirable. And it just like it lets people also

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<v Speaker 2>feel those things and say those things out loud, so

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<v Speaker 2>you should not it was not a train wreck. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's intriguing? This is better co host than him.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, I will say one thing. I will Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I will defend my ex husband in this. He was

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<v Speaker 2>really good with guests. He had really great guest questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the table, my comment, go ahead, Well go

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's good with guests all over today we'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>got it. It's fine, but I will say like that

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<v Speaker 2>is where like he was a good interviewee.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Yeah, I thought he was great on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly did. Yeah, and this is coming from you

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<v Speaker 1>know I I truly thought he was great on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was. He's good with people, he's good

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<v Speaker 1>at speaking, you know, all of those things. What was

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<v Speaker 1>hard it was knowing when y'all hated each other so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and not really hated each other, but you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>had been fighting or whatever, something had happened. Then y'all

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<v Speaker 1>have to get on that couch and it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and people probably can't hear that as they're listening through,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as it's hard for us to.

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting though. And I had a very introspectful

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<v Speaker 2>moment because I obviously I had a birthday last week

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<v Speaker 2>or when this airs it'll be like two weeks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I get really introspective for the right word, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>on my birthday, I get emotional pretty much every year

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<v Speaker 2>I have this, and I don't and I know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not alone and that I have spoken to other people

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<v Speaker 2>that have felt that same emotion that they have on

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<v Speaker 2>their birthday. But I'm this type where and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>help too when it's like shut or fly will be

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<v Speaker 2>like here's your memories the last you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting, and I know this is just again something

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<v Speaker 2>that I was just it's not even a conversation. It's

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<v Speaker 2>more of just like a thought. But the birthdays past,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, because when you get older.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I'm forty two and I think about where

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<v Speaker 2>I was at thirty two, you know, or where I

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<v Speaker 2>was at twenty two, and it's just the roads that

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<v Speaker 2>we've taken some not the ways that I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>would have went down, you know, but it's just I

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<v Speaker 2>get in this. I sat in a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>funk on my birthday. Not because I'm not happy where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at. I'm very happy, but there is that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like time was wasted and I suffer in

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<v Speaker 2>that where it makes me sad that like I know

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<v Speaker 2>how precious life and time is. That it's like God,

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<v Speaker 2>if I could I don't regret it, but if I

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<v Speaker 2>could get a redo again, even though if I could

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<v Speaker 2>end up kind of where I'm still at, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like and I know that's kind of saying two things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no. I I completely agree because there is a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of like I'm starting to hit it. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>forty four soon, and I'm going, well, wait, there's all

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<v Speaker 2>these things like that I don't want to break up

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<v Speaker 2>with yet that I haven't tried yet, and I've done so.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I've done so many things. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>also have paused life for you know, a decade with

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<v Speaker 2>a husband before Preston, and you know, like a stay

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<v Speaker 2>at home mom part of life, and all of those

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<v Speaker 2>things are beautiful and fruitful in all their own ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also is like, well, shoot, can you start

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<v Speaker 2>over at forty four? Like can you go chase a

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<v Speaker 2>career that you always thought you'd have? Well, I hope so,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't still have the career that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have. Yeah, in this moment. I had it in

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<v Speaker 2>certain periods of my life, like in my twenties when

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<v Speaker 2>I was working on One Tree Hill. The forties are also

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted, right, So it's like, I hope we

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<v Speaker 2>can still chase Yeah, the forties are also And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if y'all are feeling this, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really strange, like the people we admired and loved, like

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<v Speaker 2>even as celebrities are getting older or they're passing away

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<v Speaker 2>people that I thought were forever going to be that

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<v Speaker 2>age in my brain, you know. And then there's also

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<v Speaker 2>a part of me that watches, like our pairs get older.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Preston's parents are ten years older than my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're getting older, and then you realize you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting older. But I don't feel like I'm in my forties,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's such a it's like a oh, whoa, whoa whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I start to understand that the time slow down

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that people have. Have you guys watched that Ja

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly George Clooney movie that just came out, No, So

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<v Speaker 2>we watched it last night also as Adam sand lerne

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<v Speaker 2>but you know where we're like, oh, like he's you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell physically obviously that he's getting older, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that whole movie was about essentially like you know

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<v Speaker 2>that movie with matthe McConaughey, whereas the Christmas a Ghost

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<v Speaker 2>of a Christmas past or whatever, and it was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like that with his life, the j Kelly character, And

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<v Speaker 2>that also made me start thinking about how I was

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<v Speaker 2>feeling on my birthday was all the decisions that we

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<v Speaker 2>make and then where we're at and that's sixty year old,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's like, Okay, we still have a

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<v Speaker 2>good chunk. I pray, you know, who knows that we

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<v Speaker 2>could something could happen today or tomorrow, Like we still

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully get that good chunk to to do now what

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<v Speaker 2>we know better today, but also we might have I

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<v Speaker 2>might never get back on the show that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get back on or something so, but to then

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<v Speaker 2>still be grateful for those experiences and not be sad

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<v Speaker 2>to not be where I want to be. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the piece too, where it's like even my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was at the top of his career in

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<v Speaker 2>England coaching, he might not ever give that get the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of being sad, it's like holding space for like

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<v Speaker 2>how great was that to be a part of something

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<v Speaker 2>so great? But where I always go to is I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not where I want to be. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also hard because that can be so

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<v Speaker 1>different in different things of your life, because like your

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<v Speaker 1>family could be exactly where you wanted it to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but then not be happy with where your career is

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<v Speaker 1>or vice versa, or you know whatever. So it's holding

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<v Speaker 1>space for both of those. Just because you can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little disappointed that something's not the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be doesn't mean you're unhappy. Does not

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you're not happy in other areas of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's important to remember, sure, and shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be looked over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just it's the people that when I think

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<v Speaker 2>of like the seven years that I just was like

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<v Speaker 2>grinded in that, and I'm like, could I, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>could have shortened that time period and I put so

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<v Speaker 2>much just like immense amount of just like so many

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<v Speaker 2>birthdays quote unquote, and years were wasted like fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>something that like I was, I was never going to

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<v Speaker 2>battle through that. We were never going to get through that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And it's like thinking of, like the year

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<v Speaker 2>is wasted, knowing how precious each year is now, but

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<v Speaker 2>you also got a book, like you wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 2>to write the way you write or speak the waste.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I just get like really reflective. I am

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally reflective on my birthday and it happens every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't escape it. I just get emotional and like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing will be good enough on my birthday and that's it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay to just know that, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I also wish for I know, we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of like really young people that listen, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>love them so much. But I really wish if I

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<v Speaker 2>could tell them and old like younger me something it

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<v Speaker 2>would be like to not worry and just really know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're living in some of the best days of

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<v Speaker 2>your life while they're happening. Because part of my I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even like the word regret, but for lack of

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<v Speaker 2>a better term, is just thinking like did I really

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<v Speaker 2>soak it up the way I so that like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember like even being on the radio and and like

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<v Speaker 2>loving it, but then wondering, Okay, could I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the station next, or could I do that? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a news anchor? And then I

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<v Speaker 2>did road Rules and I was like, this is incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was worried about what they thought of me

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<v Speaker 2>and how they would they want me to do another show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't feel like I like fully enjoyed everything

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<v Speaker 2>the way I wish I could have or should have

0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.440
<v Speaker 2>while I was in it. So maybe that is the

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<v Speaker 2>piece of wisdom to pass on to people that aren't

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<v Speaker 2>in their forties. It's hard, though, to do that, like

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<v Speaker 2>even today, Like even when I do a movie now

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<v Speaker 2>and like enjoy every moment because it's three weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna be out, you know, And it's still

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<v Speaker 2>hard when you're in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no matter how old you are, it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>me all the time. I'm like, why am I not

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoying this versus getting like upset about something or

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sorry for a reflective moment. I I love your

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<v Speaker 2>reflective moment. Here's to forty two Part two. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm calling it. I like you part two. We're having

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<v Speaker 2>a part two.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby, are we ready to whine about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all got something on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna do mine real quick, because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it does not have to be quick. Well, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>We've probably talked about this before, but I'm just from

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<v Speaker 1>our text yes, because I was like, shit, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on a second, let me just We're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you a little inside tea to our

0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.839
<v Speaker 2>dear angel Cha. I just it's the I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was good because you don't typically use this kind of line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just funny because we had just talked about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about doing getting together and then she said.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine's like, well, I'm coming over, and I said, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to say where the all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically I said December twenty third, wind down lunch after podcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Kristin goes, yes, Catherine goes, love we still doing party?

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<v Speaker 2>She was we still doing party on the fifteenth, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I said, oh god, I don't know, ha ha,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm ha ha. She goes, Okay, well I'm coming over,

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<v Speaker 2>so and then I said, fan fantastic. Kristin goes. That

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<v Speaker 2>made me laugh out loud. I said what we all

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<v Speaker 2>need right now. Catherine goes, you know what's actually hilarious. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll save it for the podcast. KB goes save it.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, all day I have been pinning and then

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to let hormones determine my overshare. That was

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<v Speaker 2>our That is way better because that's just so us

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<v Speaker 2>and go.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I say that is because we had

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<v Speaker 1>just had this conversation and I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 1>who as talking about it, but someone we were just

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<v Speaker 1>having a conversation about the cleaner's coming. Okay, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say it. Okay, this is me because I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine. I'll totally out myself. And this happened on

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday. I and that's I will never have the

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<v Speaker 2>maids come on my birthday again. I'm a psycho when

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<v Speaker 2>the maids come, I just am every other Tuesday. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the deal is is that everyone in my household things.

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<v Speaker 2>The maids put things away. They don't. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>put it away for them to clean, because if not,

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<v Speaker 2>they will lift up the thing and they'll wipe under

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<v Speaker 2>it and they'll put it down. So that is why

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<v Speaker 2>when everyone's like, why is mom a psycho on May Day? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I have to put everything away. We clean for

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<v Speaker 2>the cleaning people. This is Preston's biggest argument. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>well you're always so strossedtone like yes, because I need

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<v Speaker 2>to like this has to be put everything needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be put away. But and now they all know, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all aware, do they know?

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll see next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, so forward, I go out of town. Our

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<v Speaker 1>cleaners come every other Monday. It says on Monday, cleaners come.

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<v Speaker 1>It says on Sunday clean for cleaners. Okay, However, I,

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that I work, send a reminder text

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday morning that says, hey, make sure the house is

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<v Speaker 1>clean for cleaners tomorrow. I get there when the cleaners

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<v Speaker 1>are there, this house is a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>As they're cleaning, I already asked for what.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally lost my mind. And I wasn't even still

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<v Speaker 1>on my period.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just say I was like seven days waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>mine late, so like I was already.

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<v Speaker 1>Like already, but it wasn't even that. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>feel that rage. I felt like utter like disrespect, like sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, but like is what it is I

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<v Speaker 1>have never felt. So I was just like, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>The you will say honey, I love you, because he's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a clip, I do love you. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>great at a lot of things. It used to be

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<v Speaker 1>a great cleaner. I don't know what he used to

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<v Speaker 1>be cleaner than me. But I mean, so they're there,

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<v Speaker 1>they've already done the upstairs, have already skipped half the

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<v Speaker 1>shit because there's stuff everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they won't. Yeah, because obviously that's not their job. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I have photos, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I literally because he literally responds to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I cleaned for hours, and I'm like, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm not sure what happened, and I'm sure he did,

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, the so come to find out, which

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<v Speaker 1>this is a lesson for everyone in my home. People

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<v Speaker 1>were responsible, as they should for different spots. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy's out of town, her rooms clean before we left.

0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Cayden puts Ramsey in charge of the second back half

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<v Speaker 1>of the bonus room, which couldn't be more obvious in ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, so, now I have a sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old and a forty whatever four year old man blaming

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<v Speaker 1>the nine year old for not cleaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at look, look, I just look after.

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<v Speaker 1>How hard is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot tell you how validating it is. I was

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<v Speaker 2>made to feel like a true psycho for my psychonists.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you guys clean, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most validating moment I've had in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, because Preston, we you know, we lost Saint Christine,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I immediately said I'm going to get I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had cleaning people in the years, they've come one

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<v Speaker 2>time before a party, like, but that's it. And so

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm going to treat yourself. Is that still

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<v Speaker 2>a thing? I thought, I'll bring them back and that

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<v Speaker 2>will just make me feel like good, you know, twice

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<v Speaker 2>a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No one in my home understands cleaning for the cleaning people,

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<v Speaker 2>no one. And I also respect my cleaning people so

0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.119
<v Speaker 2>much and their time these people have, so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>other things to do. They have other homes that they've

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.400
<v Speaker 2>committed to. They can't spend hours cleaning up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, you just disrespected the three cleaning ladies in

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<v Speaker 1>our house and me, I mean, granted, I was not

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>what did they say? I mean, you know, at first

0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick was like, oh I cleaned for hours, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when I started sending photos, He's like, I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my bad.

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I should have looked to make sure I'd admit that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he did. And then Ramsey was responsible for that,

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you are sick. You could you help

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.200
<v Speaker 1>me out and just go and he was like, yeah,

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>my bad. And I when I went into his closet,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when you clean your room the closets included,

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.359
<v Speaker 1>which this is all three of my children, so just

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.919
<v Speaker 1>just like all the dirty clothes and the I'm like,

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.280
<v Speaker 1>bring it in the laundry. But this also goes too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny, and that's why I had to say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really freaking hilarious. After we just had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the conversation come up of you sprung it

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<v Speaker 1>on me. That was the conversation that was had this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, well, you kind of sprung it on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, it's on the calendar, everybody, Well, I

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>don't look ahead. Well on Sunday it says clean for

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<v Speaker 1>the cleaners, like I don't know, and the text and

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<v Speaker 1>I will it is a Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of frustrating because I've even made comments

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<v Speaker 2>so now on Monday, because I know every other Tuesday

0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 2>the cleaning lady will come. So on Monday, I will

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<v Speaker 2>I will start putting things away and be like okay,

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to be a psycho. On Tuesday morning,

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 2>you know when the kid are out, because they come

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.479
<v Speaker 2>at eight in the morning. Right when the kids are

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm bustling them out of you know, to get to

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the bus and stuff, busting them back to the door.

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.879
<v Speaker 2>And so I try to start doing it Monday, putting

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 2>things away that are on the counters or in the

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 2>kids room, playrooms or whatever. And it's like, yeah, so

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you're not crazy tomorrow, and I'm like, well, I would

0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>like to not be if I could have a little help,

0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:18.720
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And they'll start all ganging up on you.

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all the kids will start and it's like, no, no, no.

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Instead of letting us get to that place, why don't

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>we all see it hear it and start helping.

0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The best part. He's like, well, I don't know

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 2>what what I'm supposed to do. He's like, because I

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:34.959
<v Speaker 2>don't know where the sheets are. And I go, well,

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 2>this is a really fun fact, man. I go every

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:43.160
<v Speaker 2>room as a basket and it's labeled sheets. So I said,

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 2>what happens is is I then take those sheets. He's like, well,

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>how do I know which one sheets?

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I go.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all color coordinated, I said, which is great. So

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like they're all the same color, all the same pillowcases.

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I said, So you take those sheets and you just

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 2>plup them on their bed, you know. So I'm like,

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that's I guess it just doesn't actually get any easier

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 2>than that.

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. And then I started thinking it

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 1>would have gotten done in the sense that the cleaners

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>would have come and it would have been clean ish,

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but like, I want it better. I think that's my thing.

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Like there are certain things where I'm like, it just

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is what it is, and that's fine and it's no

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>big deal. But then there are certain things where I'm like, no,

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it just needs to be better. A very

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<v Speaker 1>good example was also while I was gone, oh sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>When KK is in these moods, it gave me life.

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<v Speaker 1>I explained to him something that has always been the

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<v Speaker 1>case about when Ramsey goes to bed and when she

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.640
<v Speaker 1>puts herself away, and the response was, you're just better

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<v Speaker 1>at this than I am. And I was like, I

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>think that's supposed to be a compliment, not what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear. It's not about being better. Just do it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just do I know what the thing is? Like I don't.

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't I but I don't get it nothing. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond, yeah, because I think he probably felt like

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to fight, because sometimes I do, but truthfully,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want it to be done right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also just don't like, oh I'm deciding to

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<v Speaker 2>whether I'm saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just attacked my husband for about twenty No, no, no,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:11.919
<v Speaker 1>it's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not to diminish so I'm gonna save. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say I have worked my ass off my entire life.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I worked through college. I built a resume that was

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>so epic, you know, And and I decided, we as

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a family, decided to table that so that I could

0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>do I could steward well the gifts inside of our house.

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<v Speaker 2>And I everyone knows that I love and enjoy that responsibility.

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 2>And I also deserve the respect that I'm not made

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like this isn't I'm not. I didn't do all that

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.639
<v Speaker 2>so that I could throw away a string cheese wrapper

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that it's literally above the garbage can because you couldn't

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.239
<v Speaker 2>open the garbage can. Like that's not it's just not

0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>fair to me. So it's like disrespectful. It's how I

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 2>always feel. It feels like you don't value me, and

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that is the bigger feeling. And that's why I'm psycho.

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Is not psycho, it's just going like are you kidding me?

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Is this really? Like? No one else it goes wow.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, Like I remember doctor Phil said something decades ago.

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I've always been an og doctor Philler, and this is

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>literally I was probably like in my twenties. He said,

0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 2>if you wake up in the morning as a husband

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and you say how can I make my wife's day better?

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And the wife wakes up in the morning and says,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I make my husband's day better? You are

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 2>bound for greatness.

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 2>All I want to do is just have people wake

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>up and go like I'm always thinking how I can

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 2>make their day better?

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's thinking about me?

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I know Preston brust is. I know he is. I

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>know he is, and it's in different ways, in different languages.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And but I have never been really an act of

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 2>service gal and maybe I'm just turning into one.

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's changing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what I do appreciate Catherine, what you're saying though, too,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 2>and I totally hear what you're saying as well, KB.

0:23:55.160 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>But with you asked him days ahead of time, put calendar.

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the part where it's like I don't

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>know how else I could have. It's like I don't

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 2>feel seen, I feel heard, and that peace as a

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>woman it's like I've already said, it's not like you were.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>You weren't making Nick read his mind, read your mind,

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's the death that we have all done as women.

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Read my mind for what I need to happen right now. Okay,

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>so my husband actually didn't know. He's like, well, the

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 2>maids back in Scotland, in England, they put everything away,

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>so that's I was like, okay, well, that's not how

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it is here. That's how it's never been for the

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 2>last two years of you living here, which is why

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you know so, but now you know, so maybe there'll

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>be something you know. But with you, it's like you

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you he Nick knows this, you know, and you gave

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>him reminders. And that's the part as women where we

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>go to, I gave you reminders. Now you didn't even acknowledge.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Now I feel disrespected, I don't feel seen, I don't

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>feel heard, and now I'm frustrated. So it's kind of

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 2>frustrating that then they'll maybe get upset about a reaction. Yes,

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 2>because hello, we have then a right to be frustrated

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that we have set it up so beautifully in this

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>lovely package for you.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, and it's not like I usually don't. I mean,

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I usually have them help me. But I guess the

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>reality is I do the majority of it, you know.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So then it's like, and that's fine.

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>We like our we like to actually put things away

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>where they actually go.

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, But I just I want everyone to help me.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I want everyone to help me, and they did.

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Then it's not all on us. That's why I keep

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 2>telling them a little compound interest.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even that picky, but maybe that's why I've

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gotten it to this point too. You know, part of

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>me looks at it. I'm like, Okay, I do kind

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of clean up after them, or I don't make them all.

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I make them clean their rooms. I do

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>they do chores stuff like that. But like I'm like,

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to just like start over. I

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know my kids are hold Like, I don't even

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>know at this point. No, But anyway, so I came

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>home to that and I literally cleaned while the cleaning

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ladies were there when I was tired when I got home,

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was just not very happy about it.

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, girl, that is an amazing wine. And I feel

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>validated in my because I was again made to feel

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like just such an ungrateful Yeah, personally, and.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I know we go a little crazy, but also like

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>just help.

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but we're not going together. We're not going

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 2>crazy for no reason. That's always my thing. I'm not

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>just flying off the handle being a psycho. Right, I

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>know this, And this is what I told Alan to

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you know the kiddos, it's actually Mommy's

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 2>not upset that she's cleaning. It's how Mommy feels about

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>not being understood or seen in this moment. So it's

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>not about the cleaning. I don't mind cleaning. I love cleaning, right,

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 2>It's that I am feeling like it's all falling on

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>my shoulders, which then makes me feel disrespected, not seen. Yeah,

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and not appreciating that.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't do well with feeling like it's all on

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>my shoulders. Yeah, I definitely I acknowledge that. And some

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>women do some women actually enjoy that. I mean, I

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they enjoy it, but I do have

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>friends that like choose for it more to be that way.

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>That's never been us, that's never been our relationship. We've

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's just not how we work.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 2>So to start now, Wow, a New Year's resolution for

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the family. Yeah, would you like to? I got ghosted

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>by my cleaning ladies, so I don't know.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I had some valuable feedback.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're going to be together. It

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>was a wild time. She used the microwave but didn't

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>clean it. Isn't that weird?

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had complaints about all of my complete

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I almost texted you to ask.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>For yeah now, but you know, will they ever do

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 2>it that?

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>We are right? We're well. I just thought it was weird.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, a strange thing to use one's microwave, considering

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>you're probably only wants to use it. Creamer, what's your wine?

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>It happened again on my birthday. But it wasn't It

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 2>didn't involve it didn't involve us, so my wine. It

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>was just it bothered me and I and I almost

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say something to the person next to me,

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 2>which I didn't, but I wanted to. I have I

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>get really upset for so one, Like there was a

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>couple next to us at dinner that were clearly on

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>a date, husband and wife, probably been married. Let's just

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 2>say for a while, you know what I mean, Like

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they've been married for a while. But the

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>amount of times that the husband took his phone out no,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>during the date. And it's not like he was like

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Okay, maybe he's a doctor, you

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, maybe this is maybe it is

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>so I knows the cheeks was like he's right there,

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm just like a lean back. He's just

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram. No, you know what I mean, he's not

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a doctor. Like no, And but like literally the amount

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>of times. And what I did then was I looked

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>at the wife and the wife is just like, you know,

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>putting her head down, like looking away, but like it

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>made me sad, Like it makes me sad, and I

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be like, dude, put your fucking phone down,

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>and like why you're on a date with your wife? Like,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it really bothers me? Does that bother

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you guys? No? I just imagine Alan having a whine

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>about it. It was like I took jan out for birthday

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>dinner and all she did was he at the table,

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>which is really bad to me. I'm really have a

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>love I actually just have a hate hate with the phone.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I know that the phone is an essential piece of

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>our business, specifically with my husband. It is he doesn't

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>have an office, he doesn't have a computer. This is

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>an hour and fifteen minutes so during a dinner. But

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that's it. We just we're just be like, hey, sorry,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to check make sure that the sitter is good,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like I'll do that every

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 2>once in a while, just to make sure that baby's down. Yeah,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, but the just like scrolling in a date.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't cat.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I know you Like, I mean, I'm kind of bad

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>about it, so I can't say a whole lot, but it.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick's not terrible at that. The kids can be, though,

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And so I've started to notice that. I'm like, all right,

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you and I and Emmy did point

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>out to me one time, she's like, you're not very

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>good at either. I was like, you, you are so right,

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I am trying to teach you so y'all

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>will be better at it. But like I need to

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>be good too. But I have really started if I'm

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>even if she's on it already, because a lot of

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>time she'll already be on it and I'll start talking. Yeah,

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like, but I was already doing something, and I

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, totally understand, So why don't you say, hey,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>just give me one second, let me finish doing that,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and then put it down. So I'm trying to teach

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>them to do better, and I am trying when people

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>are talking to me to do better. But if we're

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>just like sitting there, I am bad at scrolling. Even

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>on a date, I try not to be Oh god,

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been so long since we've even been on a date.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, oh, when's the last date night you've had?

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>A wedding? That was all we've definitely had.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh well yeah, yeah, but one.

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while.

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time for us.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean dinner, you know, like when the kids aren't home,

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>like we'll just run and get dinner. But it doesn't

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like I can, you know. But I do try

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to do better at it. But if like we're both

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like not in a conversation, I think we'll kind of

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>naturally just pick it up sometimes and then just kind

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>of naturally put it down.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm good for silence when it's at like if

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we're in a date or whatever. Yeah, but if it's

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>like a prolonged silence, I start to go really heady,

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, do we not have anything to talk about?

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Like you know that is so you I'm like, why

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>is what do we even talk about? Like is it

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>not interested in one? Like yeah, I don't know.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think keep run out of things to talk about. See.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm like, That's how I feel sometimes, I

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>totally because we just talk five day when things talk,

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>when things happen, I think, yeah, see, and we're never

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>going to run out because we never see each other.

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah maybe, And I mean truly, it's like a I

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>text in the moment when anything happens, So once we

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>get to the end of the day, it's like it's like.

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that you do that we already the kind of.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just like a I don't know, just

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of a reaction, like we're not once to necessarily

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.479
<v Speaker 1>like call and talk on the phone if we're traveling

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, but I've texted him

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>everything that's happened that day, you know what I mean.

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that Allen and I are not like

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that at all. Yeah.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I started noticing that that's different from people. That's why

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I bring that up because I had pointed out with

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>some other like just cheer mom froms At one point,

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, you talked him at the end of

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the day, and she's like, yeah, I'm updating them through

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>my day. I was like, oh, like I've you know's

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>everything that's happened today. Yeah, we kind of do. That's

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of what we do.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, can you believe you know, Like I

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>kinda yeah, but I don't. We also like I miss

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>really big pieces of his business and stuff because it's

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 2>moving so fast, and.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I do miss like business stuff. Now. We used to

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about business stuff a lot, but we kind of

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I love talking business with my husband.

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I used to. I'm glad we don't as much anymore. Yeah,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's aggervational business. So I'm just like, I don't even

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 1>want to know half the time. So now I think

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just better that I just don't even know what's

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>going on a lot of the time because it'll frustrate me.

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Business pressing is hot to me. Yeah, you know, like Preston, Preston,

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I do need to do. We do like talking business, like, okay, data,

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>tell me about that cod like if.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>He has like a business thing or whatever. I'm like, ooh,

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you should do this or that, Like I do love

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuff to have a good brain. And so maybe

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we would talk more about that on date night now

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>because we don't during the day.

0:32:44.360 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 2>I need a date night. Kimora Lee Simmons reacts. It's

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to shock of daughter Aoki Lee dating a man who

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>is forty four years older. So she's opening how she

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>really felt about her daughter twenty one then dated a

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>sixty five year old back in twenty twenty four. She

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>tells the host on this podcast that she found it

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>predatorial but wants to let her daughter make her own mistakes.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>They recently were not recently, but they briefly spent time

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 2>together in twenty twenty four before parting ways. As a mom, ladies,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>how would you handle that situation?

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you say? Twenty one and sixty five?

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, forty four years apart?

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow? Wild, that's hard. I mean, what can you actually

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>do when they're a twenty one year old? Not much,

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but I can promise you I'm giving my opinion.

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think is an acceptable gap?

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.239
<v Speaker 1>That's not it for me. I hate I mean, and

0:33:55.720 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the come out I just I think a lot of

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it is that you're still so close to eighteen, like

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not far removed from still being a child. So

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that does feel I'm sorry, I agree, it feels a

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>little predatorial to me.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Well think about it.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna come with me for that.

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 2>But I have been born and I've lived to you

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>guys know me in this moment in forty four years.

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>That is a huge that is eight I mean, he

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>has kids, he's had, you know, grandkids.

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. That's hard.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a really big gap.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Having said that, if my daughter said, I hear you,

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying, I still choose I would

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>never cut anyone out. I would never not be kind,

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I would never not do any of those things. But

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely be very honest.

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, man, I thought my seventeen year gap

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 2>was a Yeah, it was a big one. And then

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you look at like, you know, David Foster and Katherine mcpee,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>their difference is thirty four to thirty five years. But

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 2>isn't she thirty something years old? Well, David Foster's seventy five,

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>she's forty, So I don't know.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Why that's also a little different. She just still feels

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so young at twenty one.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's like it seems to me that

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 2>it would be easier. Like when I look at Catherine David,

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, they're adorable together like that. It's yeah, so

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 2>what it's thirty plus years, But when it's twenty one,

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I see, like that's tough. But I also understand that

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>they have to make their own their own choices and decisions.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>But I would definitely voice my concern.

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a lot even past that. It's like,

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you're still only twenty and they're gonna you know, I

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>mean children and getting old and there's just a lot

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there that will affect a life.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>There's still just such a baby.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's tough.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Marciano Brunette sues Secret Lives of Mormon wives dem after

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>sexual assault claims. So In the legal document obtained by

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:53.479
<v Speaker 2>US Weekly Our Friends February. On Friday, December fifth, vander

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>pump Villas Starr said they that he was falsely described

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>as a sexual predator, allegations which he has damaged his reputation.

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>The legal team says basically that he insisted any physical

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>interaction between them was consensual. So, guys, what does your

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 2>take on all this. Have you did you finish watching?

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I did not, Okay, I am up on like what's

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>going on with them or whatever though.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Because to me is very much like you know, and again,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I think any woman feels scared to come out than

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>to not be believed in this situation. So that's that's

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>where it's just like, so they had, but also I

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>get someone's if it wasn't sorry, you know what I mean,

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>because then it also does ruin people's reputation too.

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And now we just you know, it's so hard because

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>once something is said on any way, it kind of

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>just gets taken. And I've never been a fan of

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>like suing for things. I'm just like, we're so soue

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>happy now, but how else do you kind of clear

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>your name in situations?

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's kind of your only way sometimes.

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Are they the two I might be getting my Mormon

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>wives confused? Are they the two that had they the

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 2>fair alleged affair. No, that was Jesse and Marciano. Okay,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>thank you to May apparently also had kissed, but she

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>said that there was some unwanted touch as well, and

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Marciano said that it's absolutely not the case and so

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>she's come out to say that she's, you know, he

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 2>been sexually assaulted by him, and now he's saying that's

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>not the case. And now my reputation is being ruined

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>because you said X, Y and Z. Well, how does

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that feel for him? I'm wondering because he did the

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>same thing to Jesse. He said that they had sex

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and then later said that they didn't.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, good point feels a little can ruin reputations? Yeah,

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and things right said right, And that's just what I

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>think people forget and we as consumers hear it and

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>think it as fact, no matter kind of what it is,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, I'm not just saying because obviously

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe a girl when they say that they've been done,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>just saying, no matter what it is, you hear it,

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>you kind of take it as fact. Well, this is

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what happened. Sure, So how do you prove how do

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you prove any how do you prove what it's true

0:37:59.040 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in any of that?

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>You known't know. That's tough, but it's not lost on

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>me that he said, yeah, that's interesting, really untrue things,

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And now that he's dealing with people saying untrue things.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're allegedly true. Yeah, it's all allegedly right.

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>My sons are twins, but one of them has special needs.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 2>His brother used to be super protective of him. As

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>we have entered teenage years, his brother has gone from

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>his protector to almost his bully to maybe feel more

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 2>included with the other kids. He doesn't want him hanging

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>out with him and his friends as much as as

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 2>much and excludes him. We have had many conversations in

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 2>working with a therapist, but I thought I would see

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>if you had any advice. I think it's hard to

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>give advice on a situation we haven't lived at all. Also,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I know twins have an interesting dynamic no matter the circumstances,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 2>because I've had friends that are twins and it's been

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 2>both ways. I've had a twin sisters, two sets of twins,

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 2>and one of the sisters they can't even breathe without

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 2>each other and it's so cool to me. And then

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the other ones have said like I always hated that

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I shared a day and felt like everything we did

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was shared, and I never got to be an individual.

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 2>And so I think developmentally it's probably tricky as a

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>teenager to go. I really do want my friends and

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to be my own person, and also, of

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>course he loves his brother, and then to add the

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 2>special needs layer is probably extra hard. But I don't

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>have the situation, so I don't know that I have

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>any room to give advice. But maybe this is the

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 2>point in life where they both get to make their

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>own friends, and you focus on them making their own

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 2>friendship circles and becoming more individual and it's not that

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>one's left out if the other one can maybe plug

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>in somewhere else, Yeah, that you have more of this

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>age group.

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to that a it's important

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to always go back to is it bullying or excluding?

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's important how you play on the words.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Is he actually bullying his brother? And if he is

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>addressed that immediately that's unacceptable. We can't have that. If

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it's excluding, then clearly this twin probably wants to have

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>his own friendships and that's something that's going to have

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to be helped and nurtured on the other side, especially

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with special needs, and maybe there's times to say, hey,

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you can have this time with just your friend, but

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>this time I need you to include your brother because

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have anybody or he doesn't have this right now,

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think that there's ways to just really just

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to walk it with them and really help

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>guide how they have to handle that. But knowing that

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>bullying is never okay, but then wanting to have only

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>friends and not always having to include your brother is

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>also okay.

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So fine line, we walk that fine line with that

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 2>piece of it where it's because there's it's all girls

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 2>in our neighborhood, yeah, at Jolie's age, and it is

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, there are so many fourth grade girls

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>in this neighborhood and there's only one boy that's in

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 2>first grade. And so obviously Jolie has a lot of

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 2>her friends over here all the time, and it's Jace

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 2>feels left out. And so but I've noticed that I

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 2>have been like, let let your brother play, but it's like, no,

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>she also needs that time too with her friends. And

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 2>so it's finding all right, Jayce, what can we do

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 2>special together? Or let me see if I can get

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>you play date over or but then also remembering, hey,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>so you now we've had you know, his other buddies

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 2>come over and they're up there, and I think having

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.720
<v Speaker 2>them happy in the same space but saying like, remember,

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>like be kind to your brother, be nice, because we

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want anyone to feel feelings, hurt or feel left out.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely as a whole. So I think that applies

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:48.359
<v Speaker 1>here perfectly as well. But ladies, well we.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Sure got it out system. Get to clean and ladies,

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, we'll see if we all survive the next

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the next May day. Oh, our family survive is the question?

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Real quick? I do have a quick question though, And

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>did you do no phone Sunday?

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>We could not because Alan had to work. Ok, we

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>are going to Okay, so we are going to It

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>is still on the stage. He's going to be gone

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 2>for a minute, and then when he's back, we're going

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>to do great. Yes, I have a big news pin

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pinning for two weeks. Oh oh, I know,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't so yeah, see you next week. Bye,