1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: Hi ladies, Hi, Hi, who wants to just hop right in? 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I get a whine about it, but we're gonna wait. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: So I think, can I get. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Like a wine day? That seems depressing, But. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: You know it's so funny, is we were we were 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: on the phone chatting about Oh no, you texted the 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: whole group. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well kat oh, I 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: just love you guys so much. We're really I think 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: we're all just really trying to navigate December. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: What happened? No, I just thought it was cute. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Because I was coming on the chat to just like, 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, to say what I wanted to say to 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: you guys. And then I was like, I'm gonna pin 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: all of it. So I moved that whole text over 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: to my notes and just pinned it. And then I 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: was like that, and then I started making marks next 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: to things that would be an overshare and then I 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: might regret later. You mean, like everything, Wait, was I on? 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Was I on the text? Yeah? 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: So then you before or you even knew, you would 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: have no way of knowing I did that. You said 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: I have something I need to talk about, and then 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: you go never mind, I'm saving for the podcast. And 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I was like, that's my girl. Okay, so you've got 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: something too, I do, and it's a wine it is okay, 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: let me think of a host Charlie Fast Wait, guys, 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: I say there's a suite. This is very shout out specific. 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: I won't say her last name. But I didn't realize 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: that people are binging us that have just found this podcast, 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: and it feels so cozy to me. So Lauren has 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: been dedicated to all of Wine Down and she is 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: almost caught up, I know. And she said, I don't 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna have to do when I have 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: to wait a week. Oh that's so sat and I 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: love that. So Lauren, I love you, and I think you're. 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: That's the way I would do it, like TV. I 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: love it. 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been ging it all. Yeah, I thought it 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: was really cute. So I get about why. I just randomly, 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: you know, our social girl. She'll send you know, follows 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: and whatever, and a lot of times it's very much 43 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: like three thousand follows, three thousand unfollows, you know. So 44 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: it's like there's no real true game. I couldn't know 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: those things right. Well, the funnest. I was like, I 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: wonder what it's been like in the last ninety days, 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: and it was like twelve thousand unfollows for forty thousand follows. 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, you know, so it's but it's 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: one of those things where I we lose, so we 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: are getting, we are gaining, Yeah, listeners that can to 51 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: to you know, to hear us or whatever. And the 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: last week's episode, I can't you guys so much joy 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: because of all when they kept saying I'm a Catherine, 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm a Christen, I'm a Jana in the group, and 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: like this has been like oh Catherine's face talking about 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: sexual stuff. And then even Alan so funny he walked 57 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: in he goes REPG. So it's like and it's I 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: always know, it's really funny to me. The ones that 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: he listens to, like when he sees the clip that 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: you know funny, Yeah, President, I actually a download, thanks babe. 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: He goes Yesterday's in the living your and he goes, well, baby, 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: you're just you're sharing a lot. I'm down, And I said, 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: just tumble, little baby. I can't tumble hush, You're going 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: to get. 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Any comfortableness in my face and my laugh and everything 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: about that. I just was dying laughing all over again. 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: I had the mcdeale moment where you just opened up 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: that door and jump if you wanted out the thing. 69 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: It's so funny about all of that. I was thinking. 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: I was like, it all makes me so uncomfortable that 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: like no one would ever know truly, you know what 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Like no one would never know if I 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: wasn't gee you know what I mean? Because you are 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: makes me so uncomfortable. I would never talk about it. 75 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: And that's actually gave me a lot of satisfaction watching that, 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: because the truth is is I just don't like to 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: talk about it. 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a lady in the streets the sheep. 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. It just really made me laugh because 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: I was like, no one will ever know. 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay, anything you want to share. 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: No wed from that conversation. 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: But I do, you know, as the your ends, and 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: we'll have more of a you know, a the appreciation 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: piece with the podcast, but you know we do. It's 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: fun to make people laugh and then have the the 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: deep combos too, which we really cover, which we really 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: get to. 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: It is definitely my favorite to be the I'm I'm 90 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: the Catherine, I'm the Jana. It's just so fun because 91 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: that's what's so great about us. We all have such 92 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: different personalities and. 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: We hold our man that way, which I like, like 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: we can agree, we can also just disagree, which I like. 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: I wonder what the roller coasters like binging it though, Oh, it's. 96 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: Because I had another husband, like the urn, because that's 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: a train wreck. So spoilers spoiler alerts. It's not a 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: train wreck. What it was is a beautiful vulnerability. That 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: is the one thing I think you've taught me. I've 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: said it before, but you the way you own in 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: the past and your drive for love I think is 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: so admirable. And it just like it lets people also 103 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: feel those things and say those things out loud, so 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: you should not it was not a train wreck. Well, 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: I think what's intriguing? This is better co host than him. 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: But yes, I will say one thing. I will Yeah, 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: I will defend my ex husband in this. He was 108 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: really good with guests. He had really great guest questions. 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm in the table, my comment, go ahead, Well go 110 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: for it. 111 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh now I'm curious. 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: Oh, he's good with guests all over today we'll probably 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: got it. It's fine, but I will say like that 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: is where like he was a good interviewee. 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I thought he was great on the podcast. 116 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: I truly did. Yeah, and this is coming from you 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: know I I truly thought he was great on it. 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: I think he was. He's good with people, he's good 119 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: at speaking, you know, all of those things. What was 120 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: hard it was knowing when y'all hated each other so much, 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: and not really hated each other, but you know, but 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: had been fighting or whatever, something had happened. Then y'all 123 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: have to get on that couch and it's just you know, 124 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: and people probably can't hear that as they're listening through, 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: as much as it's hard for us to. 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: It is interesting though. And I had a very introspectful 127 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: moment because I obviously I had a birthday last week 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 2: or when this airs it'll be like two weeks or whatever. 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: But and I get really introspective for the right word, Yeah, 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: on my birthday, I get emotional pretty much every year 131 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: I have this, and I don't and I know I'm 132 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: not alone and that I have spoken to other people 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: that have felt that same emotion that they have on 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: their birthday. But I'm this type where and it doesn't 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: help too when it's like shut or fly will be 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: like here's your memories the last you know, and it's 137 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: so interesting, and I know this is just again something 138 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: that I was just it's not even a conversation. It's 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: more of just like a thought. But the birthdays past, 140 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because when you get older. 141 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: So now I'm forty two and I think about where 142 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: I was at thirty two, you know, or where I 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: was at twenty two, and it's just the roads that 144 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: we've taken some not the ways that I wish I 145 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: would have went down, you know, but it's just I 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: get in this. I sat in a bit of a 147 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: funk on my birthday. Not because I'm not happy where 148 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm at. I'm very happy, but there is that sometimes 149 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: it feels like time was wasted and I suffer in 150 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: that where it makes me sad that like I know 151 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: how precious life and time is. That it's like God, 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: if I could I don't regret it, but if I 153 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: could get a redo again, even though if I could 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: end up kind of where I'm still at, I don't know. 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 2: It's like and I know that's kind of saying two things. 156 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: That's no. I I completely agree because there is a 157 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: piece of like I'm starting to hit it. I'll be 158 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: forty four soon, and I'm going, well, wait, there's all 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: these things like that I don't want to break up 160 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: with yet that I haven't tried yet, and I've done so. 161 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: But then I've done so many things. But then I 162 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: also have paused life for you know, a decade with 163 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: a husband before Preston, and you know, like a stay 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: at home mom part of life, and all of those 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: things are beautiful and fruitful in all their own ways, 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: but it also is like, well, shoot, can you start 167 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: over at forty four? Like can you go chase a 168 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: career that you always thought you'd have? Well, I hope so, 169 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: because I don't still have the career that I want 170 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to have. Yeah, in this moment. I had it in 171 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: certain periods of my life, like in my twenties when 172 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: I was working on One Tree Hill. The forties are also 173 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: what I wanted, right, So it's like, I hope we 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: can still chase Yeah, the forties are also And I 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: don't know if y'all are feeling this, but it's a 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: really strange, like the people we admired and loved, like 177 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: even as celebrities are getting older or they're passing away 178 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: people that I thought were forever going to be that 179 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: age in my brain, you know. And then there's also 180 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: a part of me that watches, like our pairs get older. 181 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: You know. Preston's parents are ten years older than my mom, 182 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: and so they're getting older, and then you realize you're 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: getting older. But I don't feel like I'm in my forties, 184 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: So it's such a it's like a oh, whoa, whoa whoa, 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: Like I start to understand that the time slow down 186 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: feeling that people have. Have you guys watched that Ja 187 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Kelly George Clooney movie that just came out, No, So 188 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: we watched it last night also as Adam sand lerne 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: but you know where we're like, oh, like he's you 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: can tell physically obviously that he's getting older, you know. 191 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: But that whole movie was about essentially like you know 192 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: that movie with matthe McConaughey, whereas the Christmas a Ghost 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: of a Christmas past or whatever, and it was almost 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: like that with his life, the j Kelly character, And 195 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: that also made me start thinking about how I was 196 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: feeling on my birthday was all the decisions that we 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: make and then where we're at and that's sixty year old, 198 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: you know. So it's like, Okay, we still have a 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: good chunk. I pray, you know, who knows that we 200 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: could something could happen today or tomorrow, Like we still 201 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: hopefully get that good chunk to to do now what 202 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: we know better today, but also we might have I 203 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: might never get back on the show that I want 204 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: to get back on or something so, but to then 205 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: still be grateful for those experiences and not be sad 206 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: to not be where I want to be. So I 207 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: think that's the piece too, where it's like even my husband, 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: like he was at the top of his career in 209 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: England coaching, he might not ever give that get the opportunity. 210 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Instead of being sad, it's like holding space for like 211 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: how great was that to be a part of something 212 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: so great? But where I always go to is I'm like, 213 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm not where I want to be. Yeah. 214 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I think it's also hard because that can be so 215 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: different in different things of your life, because like your 216 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: family could be exactly where you wanted it to be, 217 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: but then not be happy with where your career is 218 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: or vice versa, or you know whatever. So it's holding 219 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: space for both of those. Just because you can be 220 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: a little disappointed that something's not the way that you 221 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: wanted it to be doesn't mean you're unhappy. Does not 222 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: mean that you're not happy in other areas of your life. 223 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I think that that's important to remember, sure, and shouldn't 224 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: be looked over. 225 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's the people that when I think 226 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: of like the seven years that I just was like 227 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: grinded in that, and I'm like, could I, yes, I 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: could have shortened that time period and I put so 229 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: much just like immense amount of just like so many 230 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: birthdays quote unquote, and years were wasted like fighting for 231 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: something that like I was, I was never going to 232 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: battle through that. We were never going to get through that, 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: you know. And it's like thinking of, like the year 234 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: is wasted, knowing how precious each year is now, but 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: you also got a book, like you wouldn't be able 236 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: to write the way you write or speak the waste. 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: I think. I just get like really reflective. I am 238 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: emotionally reflective on my birthday and it happens every year. 239 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: I can't escape it. I just get emotional and like 240 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: nothing will be good enough on my birthday and that's it. Well, 241 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: it's okay to just know that, Yeah, I don't know. 242 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I also wish for I know, we have a lot 243 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: of like really young people that listen, and I just 244 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: love them so much. But I really wish if I 245 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 2: could tell them and old like younger me something it 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: would be like to not worry and just really know 247 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: that you're living in some of the best days of 248 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: your life while they're happening. Because part of my I 249 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: don't even like the word regret, but for lack of 250 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: a better term, is just thinking like did I really 251 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: soak it up the way I so that like I 252 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: remember like even being on the radio and and like 253 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: loving it, but then wondering, Okay, could I go to 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: the station next, or could I do that? Or do 255 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: I want to be a news anchor? And then I 256 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: did road Rules and I was like, this is incredible, 257 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: but I was worried about what they thought of me 258 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: and how they would they want me to do another show. 259 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: And I don't feel like I like fully enjoyed everything 260 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: the way I wish I could have or should have 261 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: while I was in it. So maybe that is the 262 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: piece of wisdom to pass on to people that aren't 263 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: in their forties. It's hard, though, to do that, like 264 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: even today, Like even when I do a movie now 265 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: and like enjoy every moment because it's three weeks and 266 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: then you're gonna be out, you know, And it's still 267 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: hard when you're in that moment. 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter how old you are, it happens to 269 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: me all the time. I'm like, why am I not 270 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: just enjoying this versus getting like upset about something or 271 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: you know whatever it is. 272 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, sorry for a reflective moment. I I love your 273 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: reflective moment. Here's to forty two Part two. That's why 274 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm calling it. I like you part two. We're having 275 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: a part two. 276 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: Baby, are we ready to whine about it? 277 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: I think we all got something on our list. 278 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do mine real quick, because we don't 279 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: know it does not have to be quick. Well, it's not. 280 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: We've probably talked about this before, but I'm just from 281 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: our text yes, because I was like, shit, I mean. 282 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on a second, let me just We're just 283 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: going to give you a little inside tea to our 284 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: dear angel Cha. I just it's the I knew it 285 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: was good because you don't typically use this kind of line. 286 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: It's just funny because we had just talked about that. 287 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: We're talking about doing getting together and then she said. 288 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Catherine's like, well, I'm coming over, and I said, fantastic. 289 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: You have to say where the all right? 290 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Basically I said December twenty third, wind down lunch after podcasting. 291 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: Kristin goes, yes, Catherine goes, love we still doing party? 292 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: She was we still doing party on the fifteenth, by 293 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: the way, I said, oh god, I don't know, ha ha, 294 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: but I'm ha ha. She goes, Okay, well I'm coming over, 295 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: so and then I said, fan fantastic. Kristin goes. That 296 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: made me laugh out loud. I said what we all 297 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: need right now. Catherine goes, you know what's actually hilarious. Actually, 298 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: I'll save it for the podcast. KB goes save it. 299 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: She goes, all day I have been pinning and then 300 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: trying not to let hormones determine my overshare. That was 301 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: our That is way better because that's just so us 302 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: and go. 303 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because we had 304 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: just had this conversation and I'm not going to say 305 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: who as talking about it, but someone we were just 306 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: having a conversation about the cleaner's coming. Okay, let's just 307 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: talk about it. 308 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: I'll say it. Okay, this is me because I'll say 309 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: it right now. 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. 311 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: It's fine. I'll totally out myself. And this happened on 312 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: my birthday. I and that's I will never have the 313 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: maids come on my birthday again. I'm a psycho when 314 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: the maids come, I just am every other Tuesday. Because 315 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: the deal is is that everyone in my household things. 316 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: The maids put things away. They don't. We have to 317 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: put it away for them to clean, because if not, 318 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: they will lift up the thing and they'll wipe under 319 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: it and they'll put it down. So that is why 320 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: when everyone's like, why is mom a psycho on May Day? Well, 321 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: because I have to put everything away. We clean for 322 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: the cleaning people. This is Preston's biggest argument. And it's like, 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: well you're always so strossedtone like yes, because I need 324 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: to like this has to be put everything needs to 325 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: be put away. But and now they all know, I'll 326 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: just say that. 327 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: They're all aware, do they know? 328 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Well we'll see next Tuesday. 329 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so forward, I go out of town. Our 330 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: cleaners come every other Monday. It says on Monday, cleaners come. 331 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: It says on Sunday clean for cleaners. Okay, However, I, 332 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: in the way that I work, send a reminder text 333 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Sunday morning that says, hey, make sure the house is 334 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: clean for cleaners tomorrow. I get there when the cleaners 335 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: are there, this house is a disaster. 336 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: As they're cleaning, I already asked for what. 337 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: He literally lost my mind. And I wasn't even still 338 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: on my period. 339 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm just say I was like seven days waiting for 340 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: mine late, so like I was already. 341 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Like already, but it wasn't even that. I didn't even 342 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: feel that rage. I felt like utter like disrespect, like sorry, 343 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: I love you, but like is what it is I 344 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: have never felt. So I was just like, and then. 345 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: The you will say honey, I love you, because he's listening. 346 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: If it's a clip, I do love you. And you're 347 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: great at a lot of things. It used to be 348 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: a great cleaner. I don't know what he used to 349 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: be cleaner than me. But I mean, so they're there, 350 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: they've already done the upstairs, have already skipped half the 351 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: shit because there's stuff everywhere. 352 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 2: Because they won't. Yeah, because obviously that's not their job. No, 353 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: I have photos, y'all. 354 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean I literally because he literally responds to me, 355 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: I cleaned for hours, and I'm like, I'm not sure 356 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: what I'm not sure what happened, and I'm sure he did, 357 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: but I'm like, the so come to find out, which 358 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: this is a lesson for everyone in my home. People 359 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: were responsible, as they should for different spots. Right, Well, 360 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: Emmy's out of town, her rooms clean before we left. 361 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: Cayden puts Ramsey in charge of the second back half 362 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: of the bonus room, which couldn't be more obvious in ever. 363 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: But I'm like, so, now I have a sixteen year 364 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: old and a forty whatever four year old man blaming 365 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: the nine year old for not cleaning. 366 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: Look at look, look, I just look after. 367 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: How hard is it? 368 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how validating it is. I was 369 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: made to feel like a true psycho for my psychonists. 370 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: No, you guys clean, y'all. 371 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: This is the most validating moment I've had in a 372 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: long time, because Preston, we you know, we lost Saint Christine, 373 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: and so I immediately said I'm going to get I 374 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: haven't had cleaning people in the years, they've come one 375 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: time before a party, like, but that's it. And so 376 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to treat yourself. Is that still 377 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: a thing? I thought, I'll bring them back and that 378 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: will just make me feel like good, you know, twice 379 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: a month. 380 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: No one in my home understands cleaning for the cleaning people, 382 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: no one. And I also respect my cleaning people so 383 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: much and their time these people have, so that's what 384 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: other things to do. They have other homes that they've 385 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: committed to. They can't spend hours cleaning up. 386 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you just disrespected the three cleaning ladies in 387 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: our house and me, I mean, granted, I was not 388 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: what did they say? I mean, you know, at first 389 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Nick was like, oh I cleaned for hours, blah blah blah. 390 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: But then when I started sending photos, He's like, I understand, 391 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: that's my bad. 392 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: I should have looked to make sure I'd admit that. 393 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Yes he did. And then Ramsey was responsible for that, 394 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you are sick. You could you help 395 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: me out and just go and he was like, yeah, 396 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: my bad. And I when I went into his closet, 397 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, when you clean your room the closets included, 398 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: which this is all three of my children, so just 399 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: just like all the dirty clothes and the I'm like, 400 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: bring it in the laundry. But this also goes too. 401 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: It was funny, and that's why I had to say, 402 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: this is really freaking hilarious. After we just had this conversation. 403 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: But then the conversation come up of you sprung it 404 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: on me. That was the conversation that was had this morning. 405 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: He goes, well, you kind of sprung it on me, 406 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: and I go, it's on the calendar, everybody, Well, I 407 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: don't look ahead. Well on Sunday it says clean for 408 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: the cleaners, like I don't know, and the text and 409 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I will it is a Sunday morning. 410 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: It is kind of frustrating because I've even made comments 411 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: so now on Monday, because I know every other Tuesday 412 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: the cleaning lady will come. So on Monday, I will 413 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: I will start putting things away and be like okay, 414 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: because I don't want to be a psycho. On Tuesday morning, 415 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: you know when the kid are out, because they come 416 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 2: at eight in the morning. Right when the kids are 417 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm bustling them out of you know, to get to 418 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: the bus and stuff, busting them back to the door. 419 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: And so I try to start doing it Monday, putting 420 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: things away that are on the counters or in the 421 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: kids room, playrooms or whatever. And it's like, yeah, so 422 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: you're not crazy tomorrow, and I'm like, well, I would 423 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: like to not be if I could have a little help, 424 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: you know. 425 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: And they'll start all ganging up on you. 426 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the kids will start and it's like, no, no, no. 428 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Instead of letting us get to that place, why don't 429 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: we all see it hear it and start helping. 430 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. The best part. He's like, well, I don't know 431 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: what what I'm supposed to do. He's like, because I 432 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 2: don't know where the sheets are. And I go, well, 433 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: this is a really fun fact, man. I go every 434 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: room as a basket and it's labeled sheets. So I said, 435 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: what happens is is I then take those sheets. He's like, well, 436 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: how do I know which one sheets? 437 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: I go. 438 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: They're all color coordinated, I said, which is great. So 439 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: it's like they're all the same color, all the same pillowcases. 440 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: I said, So you take those sheets and you just 441 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: plup them on their bed, you know. So I'm like, 442 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: that's I guess it just doesn't actually get any easier 443 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: than that. 444 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. And then I started thinking it 445 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: would have gotten done in the sense that the cleaners 446 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: would have come and it would have been clean ish, 447 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: but like, I want it better. I think that's my thing. 448 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Like there are certain things where I'm like, it just 449 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: is what it is, and that's fine and it's no 450 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: big deal. But then there are certain things where I'm like, no, 451 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I think it just needs to be better. A very 452 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: good example was also while I was gone, oh sorry. 453 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: When KK is in these moods, it gave me life. 454 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: I explained to him something that has always been the 455 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: case about when Ramsey goes to bed and when she 456 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: puts herself away, and the response was, you're just better 457 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: at this than I am. And I was like, I 458 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: think that's supposed to be a compliment, not what I 459 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: want to hear. It's not about being better. Just do it, Like, 460 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: just do I know what the thing is? Like I don't. 461 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't I but I don't get it nothing. He 462 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't respond, yeah, because I think he probably felt like 463 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: I wanted to fight, because sometimes I do, but truthfully, 464 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I just want it to be done right. 465 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: And I also just don't like, oh I'm deciding to 466 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: whether I'm saying this. 467 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I just attacked my husband for about twenty No, no, no, 468 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: it's not that. 469 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: It's not to diminish so I'm gonna save. I'm just 470 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: gonna say I have worked my ass off my entire life. 471 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: I worked through college. I built a resume that was 472 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: so epic, you know, And and I decided, we as 473 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: a family, decided to table that so that I could 474 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: do I could steward well the gifts inside of our house. 475 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: And I everyone knows that I love and enjoy that responsibility. 476 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: And I also deserve the respect that I'm not made 477 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: like this isn't I'm not. I didn't do all that 478 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: so that I could throw away a string cheese wrapper 479 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: that it's literally above the garbage can because you couldn't 480 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 2: open the garbage can. Like that's not it's just not 481 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: fair to me. So it's like disrespectful. It's how I 482 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: always feel. It feels like you don't value me, and 483 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: that is the bigger feeling. And that's why I'm psycho. 484 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: Is not psycho, it's just going like are you kidding me? 485 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Is this really? Like? No one else it goes wow. 486 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: You know, Like I remember doctor Phil said something decades ago. 487 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: I've always been an og doctor Philler, and this is 488 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: literally I was probably like in my twenties. He said, 489 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: if you wake up in the morning as a husband 490 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: and you say how can I make my wife's day better? 491 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: And the wife wakes up in the morning and says, 492 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: how can I make my husband's day better? You are 493 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: bound for greatness. 494 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 495 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: All I want to do is just have people wake 496 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: up and go like I'm always thinking how I can 497 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: make their day better? 498 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's thinking about me? 499 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: I know Preston brust is. I know he is. I 500 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: know he is, and it's in different ways, in different languages. 501 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: And but I have never been really an act of 502 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: service gal and maybe I'm just turning into one. 503 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's changing. 504 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: I think what I do appreciate Catherine, what you're saying though, too, 505 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: and I totally hear what you're saying as well, KB. 506 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: But with you asked him days ahead of time, put calendar. 507 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the part where it's like I don't 508 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: know how else I could have. It's like I don't 509 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: feel seen, I feel heard, and that peace as a 510 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: woman it's like I've already said, it's not like you were. 511 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: You weren't making Nick read his mind, read your mind, 512 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: and that's the death that we have all done as women. 513 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: Read my mind for what I need to happen right now. Okay, 514 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: so my husband actually didn't know. He's like, well, the 515 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: maids back in Scotland, in England, they put everything away, 516 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: so that's I was like, okay, well, that's not how 517 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: it is here. That's how it's never been for the 518 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: last two years of you living here, which is why 519 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: you know so, but now you know, so maybe there'll 520 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: be something you know. But with you, it's like you 521 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: you he Nick knows this, you know, and you gave 522 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: him reminders. And that's the part as women where we 523 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: go to, I gave you reminders. Now you didn't even acknowledge. 524 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Now I feel disrespected, I don't feel seen, I don't 525 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: feel heard, and now I'm frustrated. So it's kind of 526 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: frustrating that then they'll maybe get upset about a reaction. Yes, 527 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: because hello, we have then a right to be frustrated 528 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: that we have set it up so beautifully in this 529 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: lovely package for you. 530 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, and it's not like I usually don't. I mean, 531 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I usually have them help me. But I guess the 532 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: reality is I do the majority of it, you know. 533 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: So then it's like, and that's fine. 534 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: We like our we like to actually put things away 535 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: where they actually go. 536 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: Right, But I just I want everyone to help me. 537 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: I do. 538 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: I want everyone to help me, and they did. 539 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: Then it's not all on us. That's why I keep 540 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: telling them a little compound interest. 541 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even that picky, but maybe that's why I've 542 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: gotten it to this point too. You know, part of 543 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: me looks at it. I'm like, Okay, I do kind 544 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: of clean up after them, or I don't make them all. 545 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I make them clean their rooms. I do 546 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: they do chores stuff like that. But like I'm like, 547 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: we're going to have to just like start over. I 548 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know my kids are hold Like, I don't even 549 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: know at this point. No, But anyway, so I came 550 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: home to that and I literally cleaned while the cleaning 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: ladies were there when I was tired when I got home, 552 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: and I was just not very happy about it. 553 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, girl, that is an amazing wine. And I feel 554 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: validated in my because I was again made to feel 555 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: like just such an ungrateful Yeah, personally, and. 556 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I know we go a little crazy, but also like 557 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: just help. 558 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but we're not going together. We're not going 559 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 2: crazy for no reason. That's always my thing. I'm not 560 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: just flying off the handle being a psycho. Right, I 561 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: know this, And this is what I told Alan to 562 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: and you know, you know the kiddos, it's actually Mommy's 563 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: not upset that she's cleaning. It's how Mommy feels about 564 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: not being understood or seen in this moment. So it's 565 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: not about the cleaning. I don't mind cleaning. I love cleaning, right, 566 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 2: It's that I am feeling like it's all falling on 567 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: my shoulders, which then makes me feel disrespected, not seen. Yeah, 568 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: and not appreciating that. 569 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't do well with feeling like it's all on 570 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: my shoulders. Yeah, I definitely I acknowledge that. And some 571 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: women do some women actually enjoy that. I mean, I 572 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: don't know if they enjoy it, but I do have 573 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: friends that like choose for it more to be that way. 574 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: That's never been us, that's never been our relationship. We've 575 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's just not how we work. 576 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: So to start now, Wow, a New Year's resolution for 577 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: the family. Yeah, would you like to? I got ghosted 578 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: by my cleaning ladies, so I don't know. 579 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: I had some valuable feedback. 580 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to be together. It 581 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: was a wild time. She used the microwave but didn't 582 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: clean it. Isn't that weird? 583 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had complaints about all of my complete 584 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: I almost texted you to ask. 585 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: For yeah now, but you know, will they ever do 586 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: it that? 587 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: You know? 588 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: We are right? We're well. I just thought it was weird. 589 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, a strange thing to use one's microwave, considering 590 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: you're probably only wants to use it. Creamer, what's your wine? 591 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: You know what? 592 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: It happened again on my birthday. But it wasn't It 593 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: didn't involve it didn't involve us, so my wine. It 594 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: was just it bothered me and I and I almost 595 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: wanted to say something to the person next to me, 596 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: which I didn't, but I wanted to. I have I 597 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: get really upset for so one, Like there was a 598 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: couple next to us at dinner that were clearly on 599 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: a date, husband and wife, probably been married. Let's just 600 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: say for a while, you know what I mean, Like 601 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: I'm sure they've been married for a while. But the 602 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: amount of times that the husband took his phone out no, 603 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: during the date. And it's not like he was like 604 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, maybe he's a doctor, you 605 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: know what I mean, maybe this is maybe it is 606 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: so I knows the cheeks was like he's right there, 607 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: and so I'm just like a lean back. He's just 608 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: on Instagram. No, you know what I mean, he's not 609 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: a doctor. Like no, And but like literally the amount 610 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: of times. And what I did then was I looked 611 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: at the wife and the wife is just like, you know, 612 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: putting her head down, like looking away, but like it 613 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: made me sad, Like it makes me sad, and I 614 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: wanted to be like, dude, put your fucking phone down, 615 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: and like why you're on a date with your wife? Like, 616 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, it really bothers me? Does that bother 617 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: you guys? No? I just imagine Alan having a whine 618 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: about it. It was like I took jan out for birthday 619 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: dinner and all she did was he at the table, 620 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: which is really bad to me. I'm really have a 621 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: love I actually just have a hate hate with the phone. 622 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: I know that the phone is an essential piece of 623 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: our business, specifically with my husband. It is he doesn't 624 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: have an office, he doesn't have a computer. This is 625 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: an hour and fifteen minutes so during a dinner. But 626 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: that's it. We just we're just be like, hey, sorry, 627 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: I want to check make sure that the sitter is good, 628 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I'll do that every 629 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: once in a while, just to make sure that baby's down. Yeah, 630 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: you know, but the just like scrolling in a date. 631 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: I don't cat. 632 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: I know you Like, I mean, I'm kind of bad 633 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: about it, so I can't say a whole lot, but it. 634 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Nick's not terrible at that. The kids can be, though, 635 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: And so I've started to notice that. I'm like, all right, 636 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you and I and Emmy did point 637 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: out to me one time, she's like, you're not very 638 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: good at either. I was like, you, you are so right, 639 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I am trying to teach you so y'all 640 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: will be better at it. But like I need to 641 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: be good too. But I have really started if I'm 642 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: even if she's on it already, because a lot of 643 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: time she'll already be on it and I'll start talking. Yeah, 644 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: She's like, but I was already doing something, and I 645 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: was like, totally understand, So why don't you say, hey, 646 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: just give me one second, let me finish doing that, 647 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: and then put it down. So I'm trying to teach 648 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: them to do better, and I am trying when people 649 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: are talking to me to do better. But if we're 650 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: just like sitting there, I am bad at scrolling. Even 651 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: on a date, I try not to be Oh god, 652 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: it's been so long since we've even been on a date. 653 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, when's the last date night you've had? 654 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: A wedding? That was all we've definitely had. 655 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, yeah, but one. 656 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. 657 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: It's been a long time for us. 658 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean dinner, you know, like when the kids aren't home, 659 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: like we'll just run and get dinner. But it doesn't 660 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: feel like I can, you know. But I do try 661 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: to do better at it. But if like we're both 662 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: like not in a conversation, I think we'll kind of 663 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: naturally just pick it up sometimes and then just kind 664 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: of naturally put it down. 665 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm good for silence when it's at like if 666 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: we're in a date or whatever. Yeah, but if it's 667 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: like a prolonged silence, I start to go really heady, 668 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, do we not have anything to talk about? 669 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: Like you know that is so you I'm like, why 670 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: is what do we even talk about? Like is it 671 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: not interested in one? Like yeah, I don't know. 672 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: I just think keep run out of things to talk about. See. 673 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, That's how I feel sometimes, I 674 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: totally because we just talk five day when things talk, 675 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: when things happen, I think, yeah, see, and we're never 676 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: going to run out because we never see each other. 677 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, And I mean truly, it's like a I 678 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: text in the moment when anything happens, So once we 679 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: get to the end of the day, it's like it's like. 680 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: I love that you do that we already the kind of. 681 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like a I don't know, just 682 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of a reaction, like we're not once to necessarily 683 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: like call and talk on the phone if we're traveling 684 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, but I've texted him 685 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: everything that's happened that day, you know what I mean. 686 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: No, I think that Allen and I are not like 687 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: that at all. Yeah. 688 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: I started noticing that that's different from people. That's why 689 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: I bring that up because I had pointed out with 690 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: some other like just cheer mom froms At one point, 691 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you talked him at the end of 692 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: the day, and she's like, yeah, I'm updating them through 693 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: my day. I was like, oh, like I've you know's 694 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: everything that's happened today. Yeah, we kind of do. That's 695 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of what we do. 696 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, can you believe you know, Like I 697 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: kinda yeah, but I don't. We also like I miss 698 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: really big pieces of his business and stuff because it's 699 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: moving so fast, and. 700 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: I do miss like business stuff. Now. We used to 701 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: talk about business stuff a lot, but we kind of 702 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: like that. 703 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: I love talking business with my husband. 704 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I used to. I'm glad we don't as much anymore. Yeah, 705 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: it's aggervational business. So I'm just like, I don't even 706 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: want to know half the time. So now I think 707 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: it's just better that I just don't even know what's 708 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: going on a lot of the time because it'll frustrate me. 709 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: Business pressing is hot to me. Yeah, you know, like Preston, Preston, 710 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: I do need to do. We do like talking business, like, okay, data, 711 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: tell me about that cod like if. 712 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: He has like a business thing or whatever. I'm like, ooh, 713 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: you should do this or that, Like I do love 714 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: that stuff to have a good brain. And so maybe 715 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: we would talk more about that on date night now 716 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: because we don't during the day. 717 00:32:44,360 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: I need a date night. Kimora Lee Simmons reacts. It's 718 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: to shock of daughter Aoki Lee dating a man who 719 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: is forty four years older. So she's opening how she 720 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: really felt about her daughter twenty one then dated a 721 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: sixty five year old back in twenty twenty four. She 722 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: tells the host on this podcast that she found it 723 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: predatorial but wants to let her daughter make her own mistakes. 724 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: They recently were not recently, but they briefly spent time 725 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: together in twenty twenty four before parting ways. As a mom, ladies, 726 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: how would you handle that situation? 727 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Did you say? Twenty one and sixty five? 728 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, forty four years apart? 729 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: Wow? Wild, that's hard. I mean, what can you actually 730 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: do when they're a twenty one year old? Not much, 731 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: but I can promise you I'm giving my opinion. 732 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think is an acceptable gap? 733 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: That's not it for me. I hate I mean, and 734 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: the come out I just I think a lot of 735 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: it is that you're still so close to eighteen, like 736 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: you're not far removed from still being a child. So 737 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: that does feel I'm sorry, I agree, it feels a 738 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: little predatorial to me. 739 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: Well think about it. 740 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna come with me for that. 741 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: But I have been born and I've lived to you 742 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: guys know me in this moment in forty four years. 743 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 744 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: That is a huge that is eight I mean, he 745 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: has kids, he's had, you know, grandkids. 746 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: It's hard. That's hard. 747 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: That's a really big gap. 748 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: Having said that, if my daughter said, I hear you, 749 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, I still choose I would 750 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: never cut anyone out. I would never not be kind, 751 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: I would never not do any of those things. But 752 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I would definitely be very honest. 753 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, man, I thought my seventeen year gap 754 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: was a Yeah, it was a big one. And then 755 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: you look at like, you know, David Foster and Katherine mcpee, 756 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: their difference is thirty four to thirty five years. But 757 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: isn't she thirty something years old? Well, David Foster's seventy five, 758 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: she's forty, So I don't know. 759 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: Why that's also a little different. She just still feels 760 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: so young at twenty one. 761 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like it seems to me that 762 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: it would be easier. Like when I look at Catherine David, 763 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, they're adorable together like that. It's yeah, so 764 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: what it's thirty plus years, But when it's twenty one, 765 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I see, like that's tough. But I also understand that 766 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: they have to make their own their own choices and decisions. 767 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: But I would definitely voice my concern. 768 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot even past that. It's like, 769 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: you're still only twenty and they're gonna you know, I 770 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: mean children and getting old and there's just a lot 771 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: there that will affect a life. 772 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: There's still just such a baby. 773 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. 774 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: Marciano Brunette sues Secret Lives of Mormon wives dem after 775 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: sexual assault claims. So In the legal document obtained by 776 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 2: US Weekly Our Friends February. On Friday, December fifth, vander 777 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: pump Villas Starr said they that he was falsely described 778 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: as a sexual predator, allegations which he has damaged his reputation. 779 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: The legal team says basically that he insisted any physical 780 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: interaction between them was consensual. So, guys, what does your 781 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: take on all this. Have you did you finish watching? 782 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: I did not, Okay, I am up on like what's 783 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: going on with them or whatever though. 784 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: Because to me is very much like you know, and again, 785 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: I think any woman feels scared to come out than 786 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: to not be believed in this situation. So that's that's 787 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: where it's just like, so they had, but also I 788 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: get someone's if it wasn't sorry, you know what I mean, 789 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: because then it also does ruin people's reputation too. 790 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: And now we just you know, it's so hard because 791 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: once something is said on any way, it kind of 792 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: just gets taken. And I've never been a fan of 793 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: like suing for things. I'm just like, we're so soue 794 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: happy now, but how else do you kind of clear 795 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: your name in situations? 796 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: Now? 797 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of your only way sometimes. 798 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: Are they the two I might be getting my Mormon 799 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: wives confused? Are they the two that had they the 800 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: fair alleged affair. No, that was Jesse and Marciano. Okay, 801 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: thank you to May apparently also had kissed, but she 802 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: said that there was some unwanted touch as well, and 803 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: Marciano said that it's absolutely not the case and so 804 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: she's come out to say that she's, you know, he 805 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: been sexually assaulted by him, and now he's saying that's 806 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: not the case. And now my reputation is being ruined 807 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: because you said X, Y and Z. Well, how does 808 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: that feel for him? I'm wondering because he did the 809 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: same thing to Jesse. He said that they had sex 810 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: and then later said that they didn't. 811 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good point feels a little can ruin reputations? Yeah, 812 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: and things right said right, And that's just what I 813 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: think people forget and we as consumers hear it and 814 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: think it as fact, no matter kind of what it is, 815 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm not just saying because obviously 816 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: I believe a girl when they say that they've been done, 817 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: just saying, no matter what it is, you hear it, 818 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: you kind of take it as fact. Well, this is 819 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: what happened. Sure, So how do you prove how do 820 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: you prove any how do you prove what it's true 821 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: in any of that? 822 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: You known't know. That's tough, but it's not lost on 823 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 2: me that he said, yeah, that's interesting, really untrue things, 824 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: And now that he's dealing with people saying untrue things. 825 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Well, we're allegedly true. Yeah, it's all allegedly right. 826 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 2: My sons are twins, but one of them has special needs. 827 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: His brother used to be super protective of him. As 828 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: we have entered teenage years, his brother has gone from 829 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: his protector to almost his bully to maybe feel more 830 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 2: included with the other kids. He doesn't want him hanging 831 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: out with him and his friends as much as as 832 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: much and excludes him. We have had many conversations in 833 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: working with a therapist, but I thought I would see 834 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: if you had any advice. I think it's hard to 835 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: give advice on a situation we haven't lived at all. Also, 836 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: I know twins have an interesting dynamic no matter the circumstances, 837 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: because I've had friends that are twins and it's been 838 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: both ways. I've had a twin sisters, two sets of twins, 839 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 2: and one of the sisters they can't even breathe without 840 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: each other and it's so cool to me. And then 841 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: the other ones have said like I always hated that 842 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: I shared a day and felt like everything we did 843 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: was shared, and I never got to be an individual. 844 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: And so I think developmentally it's probably tricky as a 845 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: teenager to go. I really do want my friends and 846 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: I want to be my own person, and also, of 847 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: course he loves his brother, and then to add the 848 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 2: special needs layer is probably extra hard. But I don't 849 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: have the situation, so I don't know that I have 850 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: any room to give advice. But maybe this is the 851 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: point in life where they both get to make their 852 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: own friends, and you focus on them making their own 853 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: friendship circles and becoming more individual and it's not that 854 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: one's left out if the other one can maybe plug 855 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: in somewhere else, Yeah, that you have more of this 856 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: age group. 857 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to that a it's important 858 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: to always go back to is it bullying or excluding? 859 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: I think that's important how you play on the words. 860 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: Is he actually bullying his brother? And if he is 861 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: addressed that immediately that's unacceptable. We can't have that. If 862 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: it's excluding, then clearly this twin probably wants to have 863 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: his own friendships and that's something that's going to have 864 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: to be helped and nurtured on the other side, especially 865 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: with special needs, and maybe there's times to say, hey, 866 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: you can have this time with just your friend, but 867 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: this time I need you to include your brother because 868 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have anybody or he doesn't have this right now, 869 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: and I think that there's ways to just really just 870 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to walk it with them and really help 871 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: guide how they have to handle that. But knowing that 872 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: bullying is never okay, but then wanting to have only 873 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: friends and not always having to include your brother is 874 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: also okay. 875 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: So fine line, we walk that fine line with that 876 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: piece of it where it's because there's it's all girls 877 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: in our neighborhood, yeah, at Jolie's age, and it is 878 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: just I mean, there are so many fourth grade girls 879 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: in this neighborhood and there's only one boy that's in 880 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: first grade. And so obviously Jolie has a lot of 881 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: her friends over here all the time, and it's Jace 882 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 2: feels left out. And so but I've noticed that I 883 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: have been like, let let your brother play, but it's like, no, 884 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: she also needs that time too with her friends. And 885 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: so it's finding all right, Jayce, what can we do 886 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: special together? Or let me see if I can get 887 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: you play date over or but then also remembering, hey, 888 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: so you now we've had you know, his other buddies 889 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 2: come over and they're up there, and I think having 890 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 2: them happy in the same space but saying like, remember, 891 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: like be kind to your brother, be nice, because we 892 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: don't want anyone to feel feelings, hurt or feel left out. 893 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely as a whole. So I think that applies 894 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: here perfectly as well. But ladies, well we. 895 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 2: Sure got it out system. Get to clean and ladies, 896 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, we'll see if we all survive the next 897 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 2: the next May day. Oh, our family survive is the question? 898 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: Real quick? I do have a quick question though, And 899 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: did you do no phone Sunday? 900 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 2: We could not because Alan had to work. Ok, we 901 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: are going to Okay, so we are going to It 902 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: is still on the stage. He's going to be gone 903 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: for a minute, and then when he's back, we're going 904 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: to do great. Yes, I have a big news pin 905 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 2: but I'm pinning for two weeks. Oh oh, I know, 906 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't so yeah, see you next week. Bye,