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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.

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Speaker 1: Crum a dub dumb sultry.

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Speaker 2: We have a very special fun guest coming in today. Who.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had her on the pod before.

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Speaker 2: She's a repeat scrubbing in guest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll welcome her an any day.

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Speaker 2: Anytime she wants to scrub in. We open the O

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Speaker 2: our door.

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Speaker 1: We always are O. Our doors are open to you.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Drew.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Drew. You know her as April Kepner on Grey's Anatomy.

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Speaker 2: She is a writer, she's a producer. She really does

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 1: She does do it all.

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Speaker 2: We couldn't be more excited to have her here with

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Speaker 2: us today. So please everyone welcome Sarah Drew. Everyone's always like,

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Speaker 2: do I clop for myself? I just feel like.

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Speaker 3: I'm a celebratory person in general, So why not?

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Speaker 2: We were just actually I was we were just saying,

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know if we've discussed this, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like what we know about you, you're like

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Speaker 2: a Tanya. You're Tanya in.

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Speaker 1: Every way. Oh yeah, that's fun. Yeah? Are you sensitive?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you a great friend, I hope. So are

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Speaker 1: you happy, go lucky? Yes, positive, super, yes, your Tanya?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What else?

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Speaker 2: What else? No? No, I don't are you? Are you territorial?

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Speaker 3: I'm actually not possessive or territorial. I feel like I

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Speaker 3: also like I am. I'm positive in that I am

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Speaker 3: constantly on the hunt for the good, even if there's

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Speaker 3: something painful that's going on. There's just like I know

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a nugget of gold in here,

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Speaker 3: so I got to find it. But it doesn't ignore

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Speaker 3: I don't ignore the like the reality of the heart

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Speaker 3: and the pain. I think I I and I parent

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Speaker 3: that way too, because my parents, my kids experience pain

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Speaker 3: all the time, you know, and so you can either

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Speaker 3: try to protect them for it or you can help

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Speaker 3: them sort of grow through it and find the goodness

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Speaker 3: in the midst of it. So she's more true Lulu,

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Speaker 3: not de Lulu.

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Speaker 2: She feels more she feels like a Tanya beca hybrid.

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Speaker 1: On the spot, which is a really nice place to

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Speaker 1: be a good balance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was first of all, we're so excited

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Speaker 2: to have you back. We love you.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time since you've been on the pod.

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Speaker 3: I think I wasn't on. I think the last time

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Speaker 3: I was on was twenty eighteen because I was there

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Speaker 3: with Justin Bruening demoting that our movie Indivisible.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I think you guys didn't we do a zoom

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Speaker 2: thing where we introed that that movie or show that

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Speaker 2: you were you were in and everyone was like coming

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Speaker 2: in and we did the interviews and the intro yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, and we.

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Speaker 3: Were in the it was pandemic, like a part of

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Speaker 3: Pandemic and I zoom.

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Speaker 1: That must have been a long time soon.

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Speaker 3: Because I had to go into a little room and

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Speaker 3: even though you were there, right, that was such a

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Speaker 3: fun event.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it did such a great job considering the

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Speaker 2: circumstances of it.

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Speaker 3: It was so magical all of us on our balconies

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Speaker 3: watching the show. All the rooms were decked out in

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Speaker 3: nineties paraphernalia.

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Speaker 2: Probably very expensive for them, but we did appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: It was really fun.

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Speaker 1: We saw each other in Chicago, yes, yes, and then

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Speaker 1: we ran out of time. We were supposed to do

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Speaker 1: the pod. I was supposed to do the pod in

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Speaker 1: Chicago at Epicons. But backing up a little bit to

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Speaker 1: the night before, that this is my favorite thing ever.

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Speaker 1: So we did a pod swap with Camilla and Jessica.

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Speaker 1: So we did a call it scrubbing in crossover. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's so fun, so cute, right, so cute, And we've

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Speaker 1: had Camilla on the podcast a few times. So we're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, old fast friends. And it was late, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had just fawn in. They were like, we

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Speaker 1: So we were like, oh, wow, okay, thinking like they

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Speaker 1: were going to invite us to dinner.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that, by the way, I have, I

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Speaker 1: And Delulu comes in, Yes, I was like waiting for

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Speaker 1: them to invite us to dinner with everybody?

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Speaker 3: Do you mean truth and delusional?

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Speaker 1: Yeah by Lulu and yeah yeah, yeah, I was trying

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Speaker 1: to now I understand.

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Speaker 3: So I was waiting for the invite.

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Speaker 1: The invite didn't come, and then we saw later that

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Speaker 1: night that you were at the dinner and like Jake BURRELLI,

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Speaker 1: who we also love, and I was like, we totally

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Speaker 1: could have fit in on this dinner.

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Speaker 3: You could have you could have I know.

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought too, Thank you. I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: seen everybody in a long time years, so it was

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Speaker 1: nice to have a little like one time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to have it kind of like in the family,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You're always welcome, not to

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Speaker 3: exclude you, but just we were. We'd been looking for

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Speaker 3: to just getting that time to be together for a

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Speaker 3: long time. I hadn't seen I hadn't seen any of

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Speaker 1: That's crazy because in my mind, like, and this is

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Speaker 1: gonna sound probably crazy to you, but it's like in

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Speaker 1: my mind when you're watching like old episodes of Grey's Anatomy,

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Speaker 1: like I feel like you guys see each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just assume we're all doing life together constantly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so wild.

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Speaker 2: So I was listening to your podcast that you did

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Speaker 2: for Call It What It Is, and you were talking

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Speaker 2: about how the when you and Jessica Capshaw left Arizona

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Speaker 2: and April it felt very abrupt, and I've always wondered

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Speaker 2: because I was so devastated, And if I'm being completely honest,

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Speaker 2: that is kind of when I feel like the show

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Speaker 2: for me lost this sparkle, sparkle. I'm seriously and i'd watch.

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Speaker 2: I mean it, so she speaks for a lot of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I do feel like there was a moment when

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Speaker 2: were going, where did this come from? This happened out

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Speaker 2: I was like, wait, they didn't even know that it

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I mean that's not news though. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think we both posted about it right when it

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Speaker 3: remember posting right like the day after saying I'm I'm sad.

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Speaker 3: I know you're sad too. I've been with this information

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Speaker 3: for forty eight hours and here we go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: keep showing up with a whole heart for the rest

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Speaker 3: of my time here. And her story's not done yet.

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Speaker 3: But I think whenever anybody leaves any of these beloved shows,

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Speaker 3: it feels really abrupt, because you know, you get attached

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Speaker 3: to characters. Of course, the audience gets attached. We get

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Speaker 2: Well did it feel I liked hearing you say that

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Speaker 2: you felt at peace, though, like there was something about

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Speaker 2: that that I was like, wow that. I just feel

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Speaker 2: you're the type who doesn't hold grudges. You're kind of like,

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Speaker 2: this was a time in my life and it led

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Speaker 2: me to this place of doing what I'm doing now,

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Speaker 2: and it was a stepping stone, but absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It was a season of my life and I think

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Speaker 3: I learned so many amazing lessons while doing the show,

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Speaker 3: and also in the wake of being let go, I

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Speaker 3: grew as a person. I grew in resilience, I grew

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Speaker 3: in my sense of purpose and my sense of things

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Speaker 3: happening for a reason, you know that way. And also,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing I said on the other podcast too,

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Speaker 3: is I just felt so unbelievably loved and cared for

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Speaker 3: was this outpouring of love that was so incredible. You

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Speaker 3: I think, and I'll never I'll never be sad that

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Speaker 2: You know, were you at a point of being on

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Speaker 2: the show where you saw an end like that you

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Speaker 2: would choose to leave? Was there any of that leading

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Speaker 2: up again? Yea, I would have.

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Speaker 3: Really No, I don't think I would have. But I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's amazing how life works in funny ways,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that that's what was supposed to happen next.

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Speaker 3: But then getting to step into it and go, oh,

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Speaker 3: know I know how to advocate from my character in

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Speaker 3: when story can be elevated. You know, there's all kinds

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Speaker 1: I feel like because I think you you obviously understand,

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Speaker 1: the story of me leaving, but I'm not ready to

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Speaker 1: like share that story yet. And I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: so much in there that like we don't know, do

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like there's so much that

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Speaker 1: And I'm feeling like one day there's gonna be there

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Speaker 1: has to be some sort of like docu series tell

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Speaker 1: like people share, but like I really do like I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's going to maybe it's in ten years,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's in twenty years. I feel like that's coming.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever participate?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you'll have to ask me in ten years.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think there's always more to every story than what

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Speaker 3: and I I, I guess that's probably all I want to.

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Speaker 1: Say, you know. But the thing that's useful, and like

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Speaker 3: can I show them what I can do? Can I

440
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 3: show them what I can do? You know? It was

441
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: just this, It was it felt like a whole season

442
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: long audition, so getting razy crazy. So then getting that episode,

443
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta nail this. I really got

444
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 3: to nail this, and it was. It was one of

445
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: those kind of iconic moments the show. So thank you

446
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: for saying that, But it was.

447
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't an what did you What was your process

448
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: to get into the headspace to do a scene like that?

449
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: Like, I don't do my process. I don't do like

450
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: I don't try to access past traumas or past tarts.

451
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: My characters, all the characters I play have had so

452
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: much more trauma in their life than I have. So

453
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 3: it's really an exercise of imagination for me. So it is.

454
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: And I also sometimes if I have to get emotional,

455
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: I'll I have like a sad mix that I'll plug

456
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 3: myself into just to stay and block out stay in

457
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: a moment in the kind of energy of emotion and

458
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: kind of block out everything else that's going on. But

459
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: it really for me is all about using my senses

460
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: to create the reality of this particular moment for this

461
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: particular person. Sometimes I journal in the voice of the character.

462
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: I just it's full imagination for me, and that's what

463
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, I don't do I don't. I know.

464
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: Some actors like to do past hurts and past traumas.

465
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: That doesn't actually work. It completely takes me out of

466
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: a scene. For me, I have to just plant my

467
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: body into these present circumstances. That's that's how I do it.

468
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: And then you just go home and then you mom.

469
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: No, but then you go back. I didn't have kids

470
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: at that point, but you do. I had residual panic

471
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: attacks from that for like a good week after just

472
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the cortisol levels would spike, and

473
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: I would be like, you know, because your body when

474
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: you work yourself into a panic that feels that real

475
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 3: and is that you're trying, you really trying to ground yourself.

476
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: This is happening right now, There is a gun right now,

477
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 3: I might die right now. Your body reacts as if

478
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: that's really happening, and your body doesn't know that it's

479
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: your imagination that's caught it causing it. So it really

480
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: does take time for your body to shift out of it.

481
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: That's why I went into premature labor with my daughter.

482
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: What scene?

483
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: But when when I gave birth to Samuel and he

484
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: died in my arms? I was eight months pregnant with Hannah.

485
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: Oh fully eight months pregnant. Yeah, and I yeah, I

486
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: was eight months pregnant and then I shot that scene.

487
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: It was ten hours on set, labor delivery death, baby

488
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: dies in my arms, and I went home and went

489
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: into premature labor ten hours later and she was born

490
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: a month early. And it was in the nique for

491
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: two weeks.

492
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have chills. And that is crazy,

493
00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: so intense.

494
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: That took some therapy to get over.

495
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I lighten things.

496
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: I think I did that to my kid, and I

497
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: feel horrible that I did that to my kid. She's

498
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: super healthy and super great and everything is fine. But yeah,

499
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: it was because my body was like, oh, we're doing it. Yeah,

500
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: I guess we're doing it now.

501
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so crazy.

502
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, we're gonna take a break and digest and

503
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: we'll be right back. All right, we are back. So

504
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Tony was saying she wanted to tell all eventually, but

505
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: you have a show that you don't even feel like

506
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: there will be a tell all necessary, all the tell

507
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: will be just.

508
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: It was rainbows and puffies and happy lands. I just

509
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: it is such a sweet community. We laughed every day

510
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: of ten weeks of shooting. The writing is so good,

511
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: the leadership was so Can I tell you something really

512
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: fun about our production. Our producer, like boots on the

513
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: ground producer, had this thing where he would do every Friday,

514
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: people all week love it. I don't even know what

515
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: you're say. I love it. So all week long people

516
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: would nominate the best employee all week long, and on

517
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: Friday before we started shooting, they would be announced as

518
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: the winner. They get one hundred dollars bill and then

519
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: their faces on the call sheet for the whole next

520
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: week is Employee of the week. And so it just

521
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: created this culture where you just want to speak well

522
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: about people this You got to look at what they're doing.

523
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: Did you ever get employee of the week. No, the

524
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: actors and producers, but it was just the people were

525
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: like activated to work hard. We stuck to ten hour

526
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: work days, which just kept everybody happy. We had our

527
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: showrunner and producer. They're a married couple and they're the

528
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: most collaborative, kind hearted and also smart. The show is

529
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: so good, and so I just sometimes you have a

530
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: really beautiful experience on set and then the thing comes

531
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: out and it's it's great, but it's nothing to write

532
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: home about, you know. And sometimes the show is amazing,

533
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: but there's all kinds of drama behind the scenes. It's

534
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: rare when you get like a diamond d experience when

535
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: you're shooting something and then it turns out as beautifully

536
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: as it turned out that I can be. I'm so

537
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: proud of it. So I'm I hope we get to

538
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: do it for years.

539
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: If you could compare it to a show that like

540
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: the vibe of it, what would you compare it to,

541
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I would say it's Verona Kamars meets Murders.

542
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: She wrote with the backdrop of Cozy Christmas.

543
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Wow, so kind of like, oh my gosh, why am

544
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: I blinking on the name of the show with Lucy Hale.

545
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh it was on ABC Family Tru.

546
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: Oh, Pretty Little Liars, Pretty Little Liars.

547
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is my lead act for my

548
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Christmas My other Christmas movie I wrote is from Pretty

549
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: Little Liars. But I've never seen a single episode of

550
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: the show. I know it's crazy, so but I have

551
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: a feeling that show was maybe a little bit a

552
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: touch darker because there are murder mysteries happening in mistle

553
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: Chow murders, but there's also like it's still Cristials. It's

554
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: like Christmas Noir, you know, but it felt it feels

555
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: like Veronica Mars to me in that there is one

556
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: mystery that gets solved every two episodes, but then there's

557
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: a broader mystery through line of who is this woman?

558
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: Who is Emily Lane? She there's more to her than

559
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: meets the eye. She has all these skills that a

560
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: retail owner should not possess. She's crazy for Christmas, and

561
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: yet she might have kind of a dark past, and

562
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: and it's it's really, it's really really kind of fascinating.

563
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: So the bigger mystery is what is her story? And

564
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: you get little snippets and little breadcrumbs throughout the whole

565
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: first season.

566
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question that really, like, I

567
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand the decision making behind the one

568
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: week every week drop an episode, Oh, because you.

569
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: Wanted to just be all bit yeah, Like I.

570
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: Think, oh, I like the once a week no, but

571
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: I feel.

572
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Like there's there was like this whole thing. When streaming

573
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: came about, it was like, Oh, everything's like did you

574
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: binge this? Did you binge this? And then I feel

575
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: like it's now going the other way where all these

576
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: shows are doing dropping once a week.

577
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: I think it's to get water cooler moments. I think

578
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: they want people to watch it and build up, Oh

579
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: what's the next one. I'm dying for the next episode,

580
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: and they're talking about it, and that's what That's what

581
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: I thought was really cool about Cruel Summer. When we

582
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: did Cruel Summer, it was every week, it was a

583
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: ten week, ten weeks of episodes and dropped once a week,

584
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: and I think people were I mean, TikTok was went

585
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: crazy with it, just having all kinds of conspiracy theories

586
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: about what actually happened. And so first show show this

587
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: sort of a mystery show where you're trying to figure

588
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: some stuff out. It's sort of fun to let people wait.

589
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: But I know some people will not start watching it

590
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: until the last one, just the binge, because it's it's

591
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: it's weird, you know, Like I do understand. I understand

592
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: the getting everybody hyped up, you know, But then I

593
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: also I'm one of those people where like when I

594
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: sit down to watch something and I can only watch

595
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: one episode, get mad. I'm like, this is not okay.

596
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: I've been trained the other way. Now now you're trying

597
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: to train me to go back your survivor not happily.

598
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: But there's no joy.

599
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: So it premiered on on Triber thirty. First premiered on Halloween,

600
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 2: which I think is fun, so fun. Yeah, and then

601
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: it goes into it's like everyone gets to have it

602
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: for the holiday season of like gearing up for Christmas

603
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: and the holidays, which I love. And you also have

604
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: another movie coming out that you wrote and.

605
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: Directed, produce produce, Yeah, executive produce.

606
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: So I want to know as someone who has typically

607
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: always been in front of the camera, because I know,

608
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: did you direct episodes on Grace?

609
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: I directed a web series. We did a web series

610
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: my last year on the show was called B Team.

611
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: It actually was. It was nominated for an Emmy. I

612
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: got to go to the Emmys with it. Yeah. I

613
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: think it's just look a Gray's Anatomy. B Team. I

614
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: think you can find it on ABC dot com. You

615
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: can find it on YouTube. It's there, okay, but there.

616
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: It was a six, little two minute episodes, and yeah,

617
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: I directed that web series uh right, right before I

618
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: left the show. And I've I directed a radio play

619
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: last December that was a lot of fun. And I've

620
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: shadowed a bunch, but I've been doing a lot more producing,

621
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: and then I've now written and produced three films.

622
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: So do you have what is where do you find?

623
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: I know you probably will say both, find the joy

624
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: I'm doing both. But what are the things that you

625
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: love about writing something and watching it come to life?

626
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: Because I feel like that would be so cool to

627
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: have an idea and writing a script is really hard,

628
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, and yeah it's crazy. Yeah, But I just

629
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: want to know what it's like for you to watch

630
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: something that you wrote and are producing, come to see

631
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: it come to fruition.

632
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: It's so exciting and it's so much fun. And I

633
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: think I really love the process of writing. Sometimes I

634
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: want to bang my head against the wall when you get,

635
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: you know, a fire hose of notes and you go,

636
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: oh do I even I don't think, Maybe I don't

637
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing at all, And then you have

638
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: to go back to the drawing board. Not the drawing board,

639
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: but I've had on several of these films like lots

640
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: of notes that then you go and you rework it.

641
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: But then you rework it and you realize, oh, this

642
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: is actually much better storytelling. This is much more interesting.

643
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: This character just came to life in a new way

644
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: because of this note somebody gave me. There's something. Really

645
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: it feels really good when you're in the flow, when

646
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: you're writing a scene. Sometimes I'll like get so gushy

647
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: because I liked because I write romance. Basically, I'm like, oh,

648
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: this scene, it's so delicious, so tasty. Men should always

649
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: say these things to women, you know. And and I

650
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: love the idea that I'm just imagining it by myself

651
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: and creating the whole picture by myself. And then I'll

652
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: go back and edit it. But I can just let

653
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: myself go because nobody's watching, nobody's filming me. I don't

654
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: have a finite time to shoot the scene. I'm I

655
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: really get to sort of explore creatively, even more so

656
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: than when I do as an actor, because I'm I'm

657
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: exploring creatively every different character on top of the journey

658
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: of the story and the buttons at the end of

659
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: the scenes and how you move from this piece to

660
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: that piece. You know, so it's a very kind of

661
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: holistic creative experience that feels really really good when it's

662
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: not killing me and I'm not banging my head against

663
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: a wall, and then watching it come to life is

664
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: really interesting because then I have it in my head

665
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: how I imagine people cans, and then you give it to

666
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: somebody else, and then the director has his vision or

667
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: her vision, and then the actors approach the character in

668
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: their own way. And then I got to visit on

669
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: this one three times, which was really really fun, just

670
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: witnessing the whole process happen and watching them find their

671
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: way through the scenes and stuff. And sometimes it's it's

672
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: really fun too because they'll they'll do something that I

673
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: hadn't intended, but it's better, you know, and I'm like, oh,

674
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: you just brought a whole other color to this scene

675
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: that I hadn't even imagined. So it's it's a really

676
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: fun process.

677
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: Do you have any say in casting.

678
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: The last two? No? No, that's so indesting.

679
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: Because I've always thought about that if you write it,

680
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: you would think that you're get to say because you

681
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: have a vision of what these people look like.

682
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of people making decisions and

683
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, the role of executive producer kind of changes

684
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: based on whatever production company you're working with, and there's

685
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: some that really welcome you into the process and there's

686
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: some that don't welcome you as much into the process,

687
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: and you kind of just you kind of just go

688
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: with the flow. It's so, yeah, I didn't, but I've

689
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: been thrilled on the last two movies. With my first

690
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: movie that I wrote that Justin Bruening was in with me,

691
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: I had a hand in getting to cast him. I

692
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: watched audition tapes for all the supporting characters. I was

693
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: in all the production meetings. Part of that was also

694
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: because I was shadowing the director at the time as well,

695
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: so I kind of was inside of all of the

696
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: decision making. And that's that's how I prefer to do it. Yeah,

697
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: but sometimes that's just not the way that it that

698
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: it runs. But it's fun both ways.

699
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: Was that the movie where you wrote the first sex scene?

700
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: For the Christmas movie?

701
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: So the one with Justin there wasn't a sex scene,

702
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: but there was a really intense makeout scene on a

703
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: porch that fades out while they're getting kind of heated

704
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: on the porch. So you can kind of use your

705
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: imagination of like where that went. And that was at

706
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: the time the first time on Lifetime they done like

707
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: a real full on makeout scene in the middle of

708
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: the movie. That so I kind of felt like I

709
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: dipped my toe into bringing a little more spice and

710
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: a little more heat to the typical model, which is,

711
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a chaste kiss at the end,

712
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, people want, oh, not everybody, but I

713
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: think there is an audience that loves a little more heat.

714
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: I like that.

715
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's a big range spectrum in between that.

716
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: I just say, My Lady Jane was my binge this year.

717
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw.

718
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 2: That about it though. It's so good.

719
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of romanticy. It's really good. Anyway, you should

720
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: watch it. It's on Amazon. They didn't pick it up

721
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: for a second season, which is devastating.

722
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: That's the worst.

723
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: I love, love, love, love the romance genre. I just

724
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: think I just love it so much. So getting the

725
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: chance to kind of push the boundary last year and

726
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: then it did so well. It was their highest rated

727
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: Christmas movie I think in two years, so they you know,

728
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I tried it again. People liked it there's an audience

729
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: for it. So I did it again and they bought

730
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: it again.

731
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: So oh that's huge.

732
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so fun.

733
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: That's really really exciting.

734
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: Thank you.

735
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like there's there's so much out there,

736
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: and so it's like when you hear that that it

737
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: did so well, like that must make you feel really

738
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: like proud.

739
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since I'm still sort of new at it.

740
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 3: You know, I think I I still feel a little

741
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: bit of imposter syndrome. Whenever you want to buy my script,

742
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: you want to you want to make my movie. You're

743
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: all in a production meeting talking about people I came

744
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: up with in my brain. It feels really weird at

745
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: this point of MYE have that What's that I think

746
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: we are? No, we all have imposter syndrome. I know,

747
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: I know what I bring to the table as an actor,

748
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: and I now really have begun to see what I

749
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: bring to the table as a leader. I know I

750
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: bring a lot to the table as a leader. When

751
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm in a leadership position, when I get to be

752
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: an executive producer and get to set the tone, I

753
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: know that I bring goodness, you know, And I know

754
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: and I've been acting my whole life. So I know

755
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: when I'm on, I know when I'm off. I know

756
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: I know that I can do it. Writing still feels

757
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: a little scary, like a little like somebody that I

758
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: don't know how they I don't know how they're gonna

759
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: if they're gonna like it.

760
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

761
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: After this, maybe we're gonna get another one.

762
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: One.

763
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: I just love that you had this incredible career on Graze,

764
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about what you said at the

765
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: beginning of the podcast of like you don't know if

766
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: you ever would have left, And it's like if you

767
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: had never if that had never happened, you would you

768
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: have stepped into these new roles that you're where you're

769
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: trying new things like or would you have been comfortable

770
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: in your position on grades? You know it's I I was.

771
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: I was shadowing to eventually direct episodically. Yeah, so I

772
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: was already kind of in that trajectory a little bit,

773
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: But it never occurred to me that I could be

774
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: a writer, and I never would have done that while

775
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: I was still on Graze. I don't think that ever

776
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: would have happened. Ye, And I think you know, the

777
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: reason I started writing is from doing one of these

778
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: Christmas movies. They did a Christmas movie called Twinkle All

779
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: the Way on Lifetime and worked with these two amazing

780
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: rock star female producers, Stephanie Slack and Margaret Huddleston, and

781
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: I pitched them an idea after making that movie and

782
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: they were and I was like, so we should probably,

783
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: you know, find a writer for it. And they're like, no,

784
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 3: you're the writer. Go buy yourself final draft. You've literally

785
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: just painted the whole story for us. We're watching the

786
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: movie as you talk. You know how to write, you know,

787
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: so go get final draft and write. And I would

788
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: never have done it if those two women had not

789
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: come into my life and had not kicked me in

790
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: the butt and told me I was capable of it.

791
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: And then they were my producers on my first one,

792
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: on that exact one that I wrote, and they were

793
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: so empowering every step of the way, so encouraging, so loving.

794
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: It was just such a beautiful experience. Yeah, so nice,

795
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: so good.

796
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: I love hearing that. I know. It's just cool to

797
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: see women go like, you can do this, and we're

798
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: gonna cheer you on to be a part of it

799
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: while you do it.

800
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: Yes, it was such a gift. I just didn't even

801
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: it hadn't even occurred to me that I would be

802
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: the writer. I thought I'd be an executive producer on it,

803
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: we'd hire a writer. I thought i'd star in it.

804
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: But they're like, you're going to write it, You're going

805
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: to write it, and you're you're, you're it's gonna be great.

806
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: If you got to write and then act in your

807
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: dream role and your dream character, who would that be?

808
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: What would who would she be?

809
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: It would be sort of it would be in the

810
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: era of like a Pride and prejudice.

811
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: My girlfriend Aly loves a period piece.

812
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: I love a period piece. I love, love, love a

813
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 3: period piece. I love I love a strong female character

814
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: inside of a strange world where women do not have

815
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: the rights that we know possess, and watching them resilient

816
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: and bold in the midst of all of the that

817
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: that the constraints that are put on them socially. So

818
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: I think that would be really fun. I don't think.

819
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: I well, yes, I could, I could write out. I

820
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: think something about writing for period is harder because you

821
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: really do have to do a lot of research to

822
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: figure out all of the social norms of the day

823
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: and how do people talk to each other? And you know,

824
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: it's a whole other style of writing.

825
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: The day of jorn when you are filming. So when

826
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: you were doing Mistletoe Murders, were you filming that in

827
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: La No, that was in Toronto, And it's how long

828
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: do you film?

829
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Ten weeks?

830
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: So you're you're in Toronto for ten weeks?

831
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Is that crazy? Yes?

832
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Is your family with you?

833
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: No, they're here. Yeah. So this year was insane because

834
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: my husband went to teach. He teaches at Dartmouth in

835
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: New Hampshire, So he went to teach for the winter

836
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: semester for ten weeks in the winter, and then I

837
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: was gone for ten weeks in the summer to Toronto,

838
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: and then he's gone this fall again to teach at Dartmouth.

839
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: My parents live with me when he goes, so I

840
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: have this amazing support system because I'm in and out

841
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: of town all the time. But yeah, it was definitely

842
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: challenging to not be with my family. They came to

843
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: visit for I think like two and a half weeks

844
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: something like that, but they do get they need they

845
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: need to get back to their rhythm and their routine.

846
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: The kids want to see their friends. Peter starts to

847
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: go stir crazy. You know. It's it's because I'm working

848
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: all the time. They come out to Toronto and then

849
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: they can't really even spend very much time with me.

850
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: I was also writing Carpenter Christmas Romance while I was

851
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: shooting that, so I was writing. I had to buy

852
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: myself a lap desk, and I was I turned in

853
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: my first draft before we started, but then I had

854
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: so many notes, so I was doing my second and

855
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: third drafts on my lap in the car on the

856
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: way to work every day.

857
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: But it's probably fun because you can, like when you're working,

858
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: you're just like solely focused on that, and then when

859
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you're home, you're just like fully mom, you know.

860
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: I find that, like this fall has been really crazy

861
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: with I did a bunch of traveling, and I've done

862
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: a bunch of promotional stuff and for Hallmark and a

863
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of press and a lot of traveling,

864
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: and I find that it is very hard to be

865
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: going going full time in the business and then also

866
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: have to then kids. Kids are picked up at three

867
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: ten and then it's just your mom for the rest

868
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: of the day, and you can't sort of recuperate or

869
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: recover from so I mean, my parents are my mom

870
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: and my dad are so amazing and are They're just

871
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: so amazing, But it doesn't the reality of having two

872
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 3: very full jobs at the same time. It's very present,

873
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: even if you have a lot of help and a

874
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: lot of support. Because when my kids are going through something,

875
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: they they need mom, you know, and I want to

876
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: be mom. I don't I'm not passing that off to

877
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: my parents when my son is struggling with something or

878
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: my daughter's struggling with something, like I want to do

879
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: that stuff. But then it just it means that I'm

880
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: sometimes getting four or five hours of sleep at night.

881
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: So it is, Yeah, it's a lot.

882
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we get we talk a lot

883
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: to women in the industry that they do. It's like

884
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: we are superhuman, we can do it all, but like

885
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: we can't do it all at the same time. But everybody,

886
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: like social media makes it seem like everybody does and

887
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: that we all have it under control and like it's

888
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: no big deal, and so it's like, but it is.

889
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: It's the reality of the situation, you know what I mean.

890
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of women that feel

891
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: guilt in if they work too much or if they're

892
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: not working at all and they're not you know, supporting

893
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: in a certain way. And it's like we're just always

894
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: as women made to feel guilt and shame on either

895
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: matter what.

896
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: We do, no matter what we do, no matter what.

897
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: If we're working all the time, if we have help, yeah,

898
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: oh shame, shame, shame. If we're choose to be a

899
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: stay at home mom, shame, shame, shame. You know, there's

900
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: and I think the reality is you can participate in

901
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 3: all of these things. That is true. Like I can

902
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: have a full time job and be a mom, but

903
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: something is going to give constantly. I am constantly something

904
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: is falling, some plate is falling all the time, and

905
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: you're just in clean up on Aisle six all the time,

906
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 3: you know, and it really comes out. I mean there's

907
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: so many times, my sweet mom, because I will just

908
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: I get so this fall. I've gotten so exhausted that

909
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: I just burst in. I'm just sitting I'm at the

910
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: kitchen sink or whatever, I'm somewhere at the dining table.

911
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, She's like, honey, and I'm like, I know,

912
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: I just really need to cry. This is so much.

913
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: It's all so much because it takes. And my kids

914
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: just my daughter just started middle school and my son

915
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: is in all of a sudden this year. The workload

916
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: is getting to be more and there's social stuff that's

917
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: happening all the time. There's so much that you want

918
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: to be present for and be direct, helping to direct

919
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: their steps and helping to give them the tools they

920
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: need and show up for them. And then you also

921
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: just can't let stuff fall by the wayside that you're

922
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: that you've committed to. It's uh, yeah, it is. It's

923
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 3: no freaking jokes hard.

924
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: It is really hard.

925
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: So your your daughter's in middle school going into middle school.

926
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: She's in middle school now. They started in fifth grade

927
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: at her school, so I feel, oh, yeah, it's young.

928
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that's okay.

929
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: Wait fifth through eighth at their school.

930
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I was because I was asking. I was wondering

931
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: if they there's this like resurgence of people watching and

932
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: binging Grace at me from the beginning. Do they have

933
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: they encountered that part of your life.

934
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: They haven't done. I still feel like they're too young

935
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: for Grace Academy and it wouldn't spark their interest as much.

936
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't think yet they've watched a bunch of my Hannah.

937
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: We were just saying this on the way because we

938
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: watched the first two episodes of missileto Murders last night,

939
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: and my kids are so invested. They're like, where's the

940
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: where's the third one? Where's the fourth? Can we know?

941
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: We have to keep watching? Like I need to know

942
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: what happens? What is her past? Where is she from?

943
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 3: You know, who's gonna be the Who's gonna be the mystery?

944
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: The next time and we're driving and Micah was saying,

945
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: you know you really you really enjoyed doing Mistletoe Murders, right,

946
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I loved it. He's like that's great,

947
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: because you know what, it's a really good show. And

948
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: I was like, thank you. He's like, I'm really into it.

949
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: You know, usually i'd get a little tired. For instance,

950
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: he said, for instance, when we watched and Or a

951
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, when it first came out, I

952
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: was less into it because it was much more character

953
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: driven and there weren't as many like battle scenes. But

954
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: now I think I could go back to and Or

955
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: and like it more because I'm now really responding to

956
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: all the character driven stuff. Yeah, And I was like Yeah,

957
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: isn't that cool? Isn't it cool that you shift and

958
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: change and the stuff that you get excited about shifts

959
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: and change. And then Hannah's like, but is there romance?

960
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, there's a romance in this show.

961
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: And she's like, I love romance.

962
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: She gets that, honest, it seems so good.

963
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: Mic is like, I hope there isn't too much kissing.

964
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: That's so funny, so funny.

965
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm amazed by how you do it all. And

966
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: I feel like so grateful that we've gotten to have

967
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: you on the podcast and we're talking about new things

968
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: and what you're doing. And it's so cool to watch

969
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: you like grow as an actress and writer and producer

970
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: and watch you do all these things.

971
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: And I do really appreciate you opening up about that

972
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: because I just feel like it is something that is

973
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: just it's a it's just an ever present. I don't

974
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: know what the word that I'm looking for is, but

975
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: as women that work and have kids and.

976
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 3: You don't stop thinking, there are things happening in your

977
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: brain all the time, whether it's a conversation a hard

978
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 3: conversation you have to have work wise, or a hard

979
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: conversation you have to have kid wise, or a hard

980
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: conversation you have to have with your partner about how

981
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: we're doing a certain thing. Right. There is constant, it

982
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: does the voice does not stop.

983
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to bring up I wanted to

984
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: thank you because I felt very seen at Epicon when

985
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: we received a question from a fan that said, if

986
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: you could have a romance with anybody living or dead

987
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: on Grey's Anatomy, and you threw it back to somebody

988
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: very far back in the past, that I have been

989
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: preaching about him since day one, and I will die

990
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: on this hill, that he was the best character male character,

991
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: Andrey's lady and what was your answer, Danny do Guet

992
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: obviously pre ghost sex.

993
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't need any of that either.

994
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: I didn't need them to bring him back, Like, if

995
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: you're going to kill him, let it be.

996
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 3: He was such a beautiful, generous, loving man. I was like,

997
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: this is how you should behave as a man.

998
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: Thank you.

999
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: And I always loved Izzy Denny. I just I died.

1000
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: I love them so much.

1001
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: I love them so much too, and I really feel

1002
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: like gone too soon.

1003
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: I know.

1004
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: It was very sad, very sad that elvat.

1005
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I just want to say thank you

1006
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: really from the bottom of that, because I A preached

1007
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: it so much on this podcast.

1008
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: The reaction in the room was phenomenal.

1009
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: It was I think everyone was like it was extraordinary,

1010
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: like many other people feel the same way. So anyway,

1011
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank you for that.

1012
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: Really validated her because we go back and forth. I'm like,

1013
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: that's I was not a fan.

1014
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I know it's tough, tough being next

1015
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: to her.

1016
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: Henry was so really really good. Henry's so good.

1017
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm Henry discriminists.

1018
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: Why do they have to die? I know the good

1019
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: ones gone to my kind hearted, like nice, good guy,

1020
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: good guys, caring, loving, sensitive.

1021
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: My youngest sister's watching and she's like, I can't believe

1022
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: that you ever liked Derek Shepherd. He is the worst

1023
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: character I've ever seen on TV.

1024
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: That was so funny.

1025
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: WHOA what happened?

1026
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: I remember? People got people are passionate.

1027
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: She's watching it, so it's fun. That's fun.

1028
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: That is very fun.

1029
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: We'll have her on to talk about it. Right, I

1030
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: want to know your sign, but I want Tanya to

1031
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: try and guess your son.

1032
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm getting Capricorn vibes. But it's not Capricorn, right,

1033
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: it's Taurus. It's not taurres is visit Capricorn cancer librah.

1034
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: That's right, right, Yeah, you knew it.

1035
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew it makes sense right now she knows

1036
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: all of them, and she'll be.

1037
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Like, do you guys know the end?

1038
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1039
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love the enneagram, are you? I'm I'm almost

1040
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: identically a three four. I'm a three four. So that's

1041
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: the three is the achiever, and then the four is

1042
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: the feeler, and I achieved through feeling.

1043
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: It's just so yeah, it's you were nine right, yeah,

1044
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: but I do you think you've changed?

1045
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1046
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Oh well I'm one? Yeah, Justice, I thought it was perfectionist.

1047
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: It is that too, but but part of perfectionism is

1048
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: also just like there's a right way, there's the wrong way.

1049
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that's me.

1050
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, before we go, okay, I want to know

1051
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: if they if you have a question, that you would

1052
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: be happy never being asked again?

1053
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's the good one.

1054
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: How did it feel when they let you go from

1055
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Gray's and Adams as that?

1056
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay?

1057
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: Well the last time it's okay, and I because can

1058
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: I tell? I will tell you. Why is because I

1059
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: will inevitably say a string of words that then become

1060
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 3: the clickbait headlined that then don't tell the whole story,

1061
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: and then that feels super shitty. So I actually love

1062
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: talking about the incredible, expansive joy that I felt in

1063
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: the because so much of the engine that drives my

1064
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 3: life is holding pain and hope together at the same

1065
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: time I'm holding it. I'm always I'm so aware of

1066
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: the darkness in the world and the light in the world,

1067
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: and the light that is there if you're looking for it,

1068
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: and so I'm kind of in pursuit of the light

1069
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: whenever there's pain or whatever. So I like to talk

1070
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: about that whole thing, and that experience is like the

1071
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: epitome of both of those things happening at the same

1072
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 3: time to me. But I inevitably will say a string

1073
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: of words together that then become the quote that then

1074
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: everybody picks up, and it just ends up feeling like

1075
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 3: not not my heart and not my not who I am,

1076
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: you know, it just becomes like, Oh, she's bitter, and

1077
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: it's I'm not. Actually, that's not the.

1078
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 2: Point better for me at all. In fact, I want

1079
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: I wanted a little more bitterness from you about it. Honest,

1080
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: I wanted a little more.

1081
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1082
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody who's ever interviewed me about this

1083
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: would ever have said that they got bitterness from me. No,

1084
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: but the headlines that are grabbed just show bitterness, right,

1085
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't like that.

1086
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: I've never gotten that from you and anything I've seen

1087
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: from you talking about it.

1088
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: So just bitterness is such a waste of energy and

1089
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: doesn't It's not useful and I don't want to live

1090
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 3: in I would never want to live in that space. Yeah,

1091
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: it's not how I live my life.

1092
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1093
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: No, I always see it as like, oh, we I

1094
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: moved into a new direction, and now look at this

1095
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: awesome stuff I get to do. Yeah, you know, that's

1096
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: that's how I live my life. Yeah, and I don't

1097
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 3: pretend that the pain didn't happen. It happened. But I

1098
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: also but it's like it created this new which is

1099
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: so beautiful. Yeah, I love that.

1100
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: It's the first question.

1101
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: I know, But it is.

1102
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: I don't mean to make you feel bad in any way.

1103
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: Ready for it, and I you know, I'm used to

1104
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: it totally. And I also I think right in the

1105
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: wake of being let go I got so tired of

1106
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 3: everybody only wanting to talk about Grey's Anatomy. But now

1107
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: as I've engaged with more fans, I love being on

1108
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: Cameo by the way I've had the I just think

1109
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 3: it's the sweetest experience to get to meet people where

1110
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: they are at beautiful moments in their lives and to

1111
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: hear how much April has meant to people. I know

1112
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 3: that April is ever green, Gray's Anatomy is ever green.

1113
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: April will always be a part of me and will

1114
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: always be a part of the audience's idea of who

1115
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: I am, and I'm proud of that. I love it.

1116
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: I actually I've gotten to a place where I'm like

1117
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: that time is precious, that season was precious to me

1118
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: and I and I feel like when I hear people's

1119
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: stories about how much a Roles stories broke their heart

1120
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: open or made them feel less alone, I go, yes,

1121
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: that's that feels so affirming. It feels like me living

1122
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: into my purpose. Yeah, and I love it. I love

1123
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: it now. So I don't mind talking about.

1124
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: Grazes though, because I feel like I do I understand that,

1125
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: not even just from Grey's Anatomy, but like I feel

1126
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: like there's several actors who have this role and like

1127
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: a huge dynamic show and then like people, they just

1128
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: get asked questions about that all the time and then

1129
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: they're like, no, but I'm promoting this, you know.

1130
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: So it's like I do get that.

1131
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like as a fan, you

1132
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: you're so interested in intriguing, so you hold this like

1133
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: space for these people, these characters, and so it's like

1134
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: it's so it's like.

1135
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: A and I love it. As someone was asking me

1136
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: actually that I'll I know, our time is up or whatever,

1137
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: but like someone was asking me after epicuns they were like,

1138
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: how do you how does that experience feel? Is it chaotic?

1139
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: Is it overwhelming? Is it like an ego boost? And

1140
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: I my experience at those situations where I get to

1141
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: have this time, it is exhausting, of course, because you're

1142
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: trying to you know, people are waiting in line to

1143
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: see you, They've paid money to see you, and you

1144
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you're giving them their money's

1145
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: worth and you're really focused on them and you're really

1146
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: giving yourself to them to some degree, so that it's draining,

1147
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 3: But hearing people's stories is so affirming. It makes It's

1148
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: not an ego thing for me. It's really fully the

1149
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: sense of I set out from the earliest stages when

1150
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: I was in high school. I wanted to impact people's

1151
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: lives through storytelling and through acting. So whenever anybody tells

1152
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: me that a story has impacted them and a story

1153
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: I got to tell, that is me living into my purpose.

1154
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: And it's such a gift to hear it because we

1155
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: so many people in so many industries don't get to

1156
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: hear it the number of times we get to hear it, right,

1157
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: So it's sweet.

1158
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know forever. I mean you are.

1159
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: You are so loved by the Raised fandom, and I

1160
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: think that people will love you in everything you do

1161
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: because you put that out there for people. It's like

1162
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: who you are.

1163
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is who you are.

1164
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: So I hope you always feel that in everything you do.

1165
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: And where can please come back for any project that

1166
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: you have in the future.

1167
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: Our door is always.

1168
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: Open to you.

1169
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: I will, and you can ask me how I felt

1170
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: leaving Grace mad Me if you really need to again,

1171
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1172
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: I got, I've gotten all I need to know, and

1173
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that I asked them one question don't apologize.

1174
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: I expect it every single place I go.

1175
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: So if you have any that I didn't, we love

1176
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: you so much and everyone's stream or wait.

1177
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: You could start it now and just and you're gonna

1178
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna have some cliffhanger moments, but it's gonna be

1179
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: really fun. It'll it'll drop a new episode. There's six episodes,

1180
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: and a new episode drops every Thursday, and the first

1181
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: one just dropped on Halloween, so we have a new

1182
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: one episode two drops this Thursday.

1183
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: Amazing. Where can they follow you?

1184
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: The Sarah Drew on Instagram? I'm also on TikTok. I

1185
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: think I'm the Sarah Drew might be just Sarah Drew,

1186
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 3: M sure, and I think Twitter is or X. I'm

1187
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: never there, guys. I won't pay the money either. I

1188
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: won't pay the money, so I can't find the mentions

1189
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: and I don't know how to. I don't know how

1190
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: to interact with people anymore on that, but I am

1191
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: amazing think Sarah Drew. Yeah, if you want to, if

1192
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: you want to, honestly, if you want to see mentions

1193
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: so that you can response, bond and repost, you, yeah,

1194
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: you have to pay like twelve bucks a month.

1195
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: It's been a minute, thank you.

1196
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: I haven't been there in a minute.

1197
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: So yeah.

1198
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: So mostly Instagram. That's that's my main place where you'll

1199
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: see and hear anything else going on.

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: Awesome.

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: We love you so much. I love you. Thank you.