1 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Affney, the program 2 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies foreign and domestic, to the 4 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: glory of God and his Kingdom. We are thrilled to 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: be able to introduce to you, I believe, for the 6 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: first time since we've been doing this program, a friend 7 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: of many years. We don't call them old friends, but 8 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: a friend of many years and a very very valued colleague. 9 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Her name is Brooke Goldstein. She is well a force 10 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: of nature and in terms of the various causes and 11 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: organizations that she has helped will advance, notably her present 12 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: role as the founder and executive director of the Lawfair Project, 13 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: and you can find out much more about it at 14 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the Lawfairproject dot org. She is a filmmaker, having made 15 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: a marvelous film entitled The Making of a Martyr. She 16 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: is also a spearheading a movement about which we will 17 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: talk in the course of this interview. It's called the 18 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: End jew Hatred Movement. She is, in other words, an 19 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: extraordinary and vitally needed champion for freedom in our time, 20 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and we couldn't be more proud to have her with us. 21 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Welcome Brooke. It's so good to have you here. 22 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Thank you Frank for reaching out. I'm very grateful to 23 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: be here. And I would say more than just a friend, 24 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: you have always been a mentor to me. You were 25 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: there from the beginning. I've learned so much from you. 26 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: Everything that you have said over the years has come true, 27 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: all of your warnings of radicalization, of Islamism gaining power. 28 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: In fact, you are also the publisher of my first book, 29 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: and so I'm very grateful to you for helping to 30 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: mentor me and helping along my career and really being 31 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: a thought leader and one who has always stood up 32 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: with moral courage. 33 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: So thank you for having me. 34 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, I can't ask for a better oh bit, So 35 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to charge you with writing it up if 36 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: you wouldn't mind. Thank you, Brooke. That's a wonderful and 37 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: very very much appreciated. Let me turn to what you've 38 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: been doing lately. You have recently returned from the Gaza 39 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Strip and a fact finding effort you've made there to 40 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: see what's going on with Israel's efforts to relieve well 41 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the suffering, specifically the nutritional needs of the people who 42 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: are caught up in this war that Hamas, which has 43 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: misruled them and brutalized them for decades, precipitated with its 44 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: attack on Israel on October seventh, twenty twenty three. Tell 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: us about this mission, tell us what you did while 46 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: you were in Gaza and the takeaways. 47 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 48 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: So, about two and a half weeks ago, I was 49 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: actually privileged to be one of the first civilians to 50 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: have been given permission by the Americans and the Israeli 51 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: government to enter into Gaza so that I could see for. 52 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Myself and document firsthand what is really going on. I 53 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: was hosted by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which is an 54 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: independent organization and nonprofit organization that is feeding the people 55 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: of Gaza. It is the only organization, the only entity 56 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: that has been able to get food directly into the 57 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: hands of Gazans, because that is the issue. Frank, there 58 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: is no food shortage in Gaza. There are hundreds of 59 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: thousands of tons of food going into Gaza all the time. 60 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: What there is is a food distribution problem because in 61 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: the North, especially a terrorist group that is hell bent 62 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 2: on starving its own civilians, using its civilians as human shields, 63 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: using its own civilians as hostages. Frankly, in this war 64 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: and increasing civilian casualties, uses food as a weapon. It 65 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: is Hamas's number one source of income is its ability 66 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: to steal food and to resell it at higher prices 67 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: in the markets in the north of Gaza. That is 68 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: how it funds its terrorism in the south. On the 69 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: other hand, we have organizations like the gauz Of Humanitarian 70 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: Foundation that have been set up to disrupt this economic warfare, 71 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: so to speak, and it has proven to deliver. And 72 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: I have the numbers here over one hundred Wait, let 73 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: me hold on, over one hundred and twenty five million 74 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: meals directly into the hands of Gozens. And we've heard 75 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: so much misinformation about what's going on. We've heard that 76 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: these facilities are unsafe, which is not true. 77 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: I went there myself. 78 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: I witnessed over twelve thousand men and over thirty five 79 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: hundred women and children being fed directly. These sites are 80 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: open twice a day. The people are protected actually from Hamas. 81 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Hummas's goal is to spread misinformation and to prevent and 82 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: otherwise discourage the Gossans from retrieving food because it disrupts 83 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: its ability to use food as a weapon. 84 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you a question, Brooke, because what 85 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: we're hearing, as you know here in the West, has 86 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: been Yes, the Israelis are working with this group best 87 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: known as I guess GHF to feed the Palestinians, but 88 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: they're also shooting the Palestinians when they go to those 89 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: outlets and try to get food. What did you establish 90 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: as the truth of that metal Well. 91 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: I didn't witness any of that. 92 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: In fact, not one person, not one civilian, has been 93 00:06:53,960 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: killed at the HF feeding sites. What you have is 94 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: the Israelis secured the perimeter. They are behind the green line, 95 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: so it's not Hummas controlled territory. But Humas does come in, 96 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: and Hummas has come in. At one time Humas threw 97 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: a grenade at the civilians. It injured a couple, nobody died. 98 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: Another time, Hummas actually attacked the Gozen civilian volunteers who 99 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: are working at the site. 100 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: On their way into. 101 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: The site, they attacked a bus. They murdered over ten people. 102 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: Those people were then delivered to the Nasar Hospital where 103 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: allegedly Doctors Without Borders was working and they were refuse 104 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: treatment and those people perished in the courtyard of the 105 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: Nasar hospital because the Hummas run hospital refused treatment to 106 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: the gozens who were helping to feed other gossens. We 107 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: also had a stampede that was orchestrated where Hummas terrorists 108 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: came into the site and started pushing the women and 109 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: one woman got caught in the barbed wire. IDEF, the 110 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: IDEAF is not shooting at civilians getting food. There's been 111 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: not one injury or death that HF is responsible for 112 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: any and all violence. That the limited three instances of 113 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: violence that have occurred within the last three months have 114 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: occurred entirely by hamas design in order to discourage people 115 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: from getting food. And what is so baffling to me 116 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: is that those parties who claim to care about food 117 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: shortages or claim to care about Palestinians having access to aid, 118 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: are the very people who are protesting the existence of 119 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. Well, you know, you can't talk 120 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: out of both sides of your mouth, and so that's 121 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: why it was so important that I went and saw 122 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: for myself what was going on. 123 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Well, this is very hardening. On the one hand that 124 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: the number of incidents have been very few and not 125 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: precipitated by the IDEF, the Israel Defense Forces or the 126 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: folks responsible for this aid distribution. It's very troubling though, 127 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: as you say that, there is this relentless campaign on 128 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: the part of these so called humanitarian non governmental organizations 129 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: against this effort and in support of Hamas. And we 130 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: get back from a short break, Goldstein, I want to 131 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: ask you about what's up with that. Who are these 132 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: so called humanitarian organizations and what role are they actually 133 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: playing in this struggle to care for the people of 134 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Gaza for gold Scenes in the house. Stay tuned, we'll 135 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: be right back with more. Welcome back, My dear friend 136 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Brooke Goldstein is with us fresh from her fact finding 137 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: mission to Gaza, where she actually visited with the Gaza 138 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Humanitarian Foundation to examine for herself what is happening on 139 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: the part of Israel and the United States working with 140 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: this group known as GHF to try to provide needed 141 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: food distribution to people who are the more or less 142 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: I suppose it's fair to say innocent victims of the 143 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: war that Hamas precipitated, though there are some who were 144 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: obviously involved in that war or supportive of it. They're 145 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: in need of food now, that's for sure, and Israel 146 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: has been doing it seems enormous effort to try to 147 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: address that need without subsidizing or otherwise propping up its 148 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: enemy and ours. By the way, Hamas, so Brooke, you 149 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: were talking about the criticism that Israel has come in 150 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: for Operation which is an American Israeli joint venture. Who 151 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: are these so called humanitarian groups and organizations, the UN 152 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: and otherwise and what role are they actually playing in 153 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: all of this? 154 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So I just want to preface that with just 155 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: a couple facts. Israel has done more to provide aid 156 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: and medicine and food and otherwise opportunity to the Gosens 157 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: than every Arab state combined. Israel is unprecedently feeding the 158 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: civilians of an enemy population in the middle of active combat. 159 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: That is historically unprecedented. 160 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: The fact is that ninety. 161 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Three point five percent of all of the aid that's 162 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: been delivered by the United Nations has been diverted by Hamas. 163 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: We just saw a week and a half ago a 164 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: horrific video of Hamas terrorists attacking an AID truck. I 165 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: met those truck drivers personally, I spoke with them at length, 166 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: and they set the truck driver on fire while he 167 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: was alive. 168 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: So that they could steal the aid. 169 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: That is the fact of what is going on right now. 170 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: And the aid groups, the NGOs who. 171 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Are attempting to deliver aid but actually have been caught 172 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: smuggling weapons, they're caught smuggling drugs. There's a huge drug 173 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: problem right now being smuggled in. Those are the same 174 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: groups that are protesting against the direct delivery of food 175 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: and medicine by the Gazu Humanitarian Foundation. So you really 176 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: have to call into question what their motives are because 177 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: this is not just a physical battlefield, it's not just 178 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: an economic war with the food against Humas. This is 179 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: a propaganda war. And you see very clearly when HAMAS 180 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: officials have journalists, they strap on a press vest thinking 181 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: that they're going to be immune to international law, to 182 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: the laws of armed conflict, and they are operating and 183 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: embedded within the terrorist group to document their atrocities for 184 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: their propagantic campaign. Now, hamasa's goal is to maximize civilian casualties. 185 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: And these same NGOs that are against the Gods of 186 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: Humanitarian Foundation, against the feeding of the Gossen people, are 187 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: the same groups who are refusing to allow the Gossen 188 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: civilians their legal right to refugee status to be temporarily 189 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: relocated to safety so they cannot be used as human 190 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: shields by Hamas. In fact, those parties who are demanding 191 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: and insisting that the Gossens remain, they remain to be 192 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: held hostages and they remain to be used as civilian 193 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: human shields by Hamas, those are the parties advocating for 194 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: genocide against the gosen Erab people, because they are in 195 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: saying that they remain there, that they have civilian casualties, 196 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: solely for the purpose of using them as a propaganda 197 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: war against Israel. 198 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: How sick is that? 199 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: How sick is it that there are people advocating that 200 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: these civilians do not get fed and they're not entitled 201 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: to their refugee status, that they must die, they must 202 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: die in Islamic jihadic war against Israel. 203 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: You've i know, been identifying and documenting how sick this 204 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: is as part of a larger endeavor you've mounted. You 205 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: call it the end jew hatred movement, and it sounds 206 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot as though those NGOs, whether they're associated with 207 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, the UN or the Red Cross or 208 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Red Crescent or whatever it might be, are exhibiting symptoms 209 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: of jew hatred of the extent that they're playing the 210 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: role that you've just described. Tell us a little bit 211 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: about this movement, goldst In, if you would, and what 212 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to do to actually end this horror of 213 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: jew hatred. 214 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: Sure, well, I'll preface that also by saying that jew 215 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: hatred is the type of sickness. It's a virus that 216 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: makes people act completely irrationally and against their own self interest. 217 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: You know, every society that has allowed jew hatred to 218 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: flourish has itself then crumbled and disintegrated. And the End 219 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: jew Hatred movement of which I am the proud founder 220 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: and we have I think over sixty five thousand activists 221 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: across the United States as well as activists in Canada 222 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: and Europe, is a true grassroots movement that really says 223 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: enough is enough. 224 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: Right everyone is against you. 225 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: Know, ending hatred against gays, or ending hatred against women, 226 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: or ending hatred against blacks, you name it. The time 227 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: is now for a movement that advocates that we must 228 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: end jew hatred. Ending jew hatred is the civil rights 229 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: issue of our lifetime. We are in the age of 230 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: minority rights movements, and yet the issue of anti Jewish 231 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: discrimination has become so politicized that jew hatred and anti 232 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Jewish discrimination is legitimized under political advocacy. So we have 233 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: so many instances, and we see it every day on 234 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: college campuses, we see it on the streets across the 235 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: world where Jews are being targeted for being Jews. And 236 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: a Hamas propaganda campaign or so called Israeli Palestinian conflict 237 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: is just the latest excuse to target Jews for being Jews. 238 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: And I would conclude with this. Now you see all 239 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: around us in Europe, on the streets of New York, 240 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: on the streets of Paris, in la in London, these 241 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: so called protests, these so called pro Palestinian protests, These 242 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: are not democracy movements. Are not waving European flags, They're 243 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: not waving American flags. In fact, if you went into 244 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: one of these protests and started waving an American flag, 245 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: you would be beaten up, you would be at risk. 246 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: These are pro tear movements. And you have been warning 247 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: about this for over twenty years, Frank and I've been 248 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: warning about it, and we wrote about it in the 249 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: book law Fair The War against Free Speech, And what 250 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: I say is the most important thing to do is 251 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: do what we're doing now, talk about these issues openly, 252 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: not to be intimidated by it. Because the greatest threat, 253 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: not just to Jews, is radicalization, and in particular theologically 254 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: motivated radicalization, and we're seeing it in our schools across 255 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: the country, which is why the Endue Hatred movement is 256 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: so proud to now have launched the End Hatred and 257 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: Education k through twelve campaign, which is a true grassroots 258 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: movement together with our allies, American allies, to stop the 259 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: indoctrination and radicalization happening in our schools, and much of 260 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: it foreign funded by terror. 261 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: States like Qatar. 262 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: Because if we don't get a hold of this, and 263 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: if we don't reverse the hateful indoctrination happening in our 264 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: schools kindergarten, even in kindergarten, the future of America looks 265 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: very blak. That's why we are at a crossroads right now. 266 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: We must do everything we can to work with all 267 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: of our allies not just to combat and defeat anti Semitism, 268 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: but to end hateful islammest radicalization of Marxist radicalization that's 269 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: happening in our schools. 270 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Brooke I said at the Outset how much I admire 271 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: your leadership and this freedom fighting that you've done valiantly 272 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: for decades. As you say, I can't think of a 273 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: more important focus of effort than the one you've just described. 274 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: It is truly the case that of all of the 275 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: minorities you can think about the one that is not 276 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: allowed to stand up for itself, the one that is 277 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: being silenced, the one that is being pilloried at every turn, 278 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: including by mainstream press and even governments other Jewish people, 279 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: and it is intolerable and it must stop. And we 280 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: salute you for your efforts to do that, and I 281 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: hope you'll come back for a longer conversation about all 282 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: of this in the very near future. God bless you 283 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: keep up the great work at the law Fair project 284 00:20:28,440 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: dot org. We've right back, folks, stay too, We're back. 285 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: And what a delight to be able to say we're 286 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: back with Alex Newman, a tremendous contributor to the fight 287 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: for freedom in this country, one of the most I 288 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: think thoughtful analysts of the various threats to it, as 289 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: well as an incredibly creative, well free range mind when 290 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: it comes to figuring out what we need to do 291 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: to preserve our freedom. He is the proprietor of a 292 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: wonderful media organization, Liberty Sentinel Media. He has his own 293 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: podcast program. He appears relentlessly Thanks be to God on 294 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: various programs, including this one. He is also the author 295 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: of countless essays and articles, and a couple of important 296 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: books very much relevant to our topics today, including Indoctrinating 297 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: our children to death about our government schools, war on faith, 298 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: family and freedom, and the deep State, the invisible enemy 299 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's always illuminating and frankly exhilarating to 300 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: have a chance to visit with him, and I'm so 301 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: pleased to be able to do it with him now. 302 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Alex. Great to have you. 303 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: It's an honor and a pleasure, Thank you very much. 304 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: Rak. 305 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: Where to begin, Alex? It's a target rich environment, but 306 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: I think I'd like to start with what I know 307 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: is a special passion we share, which is the alarming 308 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: efforts being made now by well, yes, the UN and 309 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: sordid institutions that nestle underneath it, like the World Health Organization, 310 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: to achieve what has been described as world government by 311 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: sort of evolving exorably more and more power in the 312 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: hands of their various international bureaucrats. But also we've just 313 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: been treated to a very urgent, insistent statement by no 314 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: less than the communist Chinese dictator Jijingpaning that what the 315 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: world needs now is global governance, and he's got a 316 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: multifaceted initial to make that happen. Talk to us, first 317 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: of all, it's based upon your long study of this 318 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: topic what's wrong with global government? And then let's talk 319 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: about what these various initiatives portent. 320 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: Well, thank you again, Frank, and I think there's a 321 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: lot of ways to analyze this problem of global government, 322 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: but I started just with a pragmatic approach. When you 323 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: have a global government, it will be a magnet for 324 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 5: the very worst kind of people. And historically we've seen 325 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: that government power tends to attract people who want to 326 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: wield it for improper purposes. Thankfully, the fact that we 327 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: have sovereign nation states has kept those ambitions in check. 328 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 5: When one leader went too crazy Adolf Hitler, you know, 329 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: pick your crazy dictator, there were other nations to put 330 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: a stop to those ambitions before they could get too 331 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: far out of control. What happens when you have a 332 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 5: global government and there is no longer any force that 333 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 5: can properly withstand that power. You have a recipe for disaster. 334 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: It would attract every hitler, every castro, every poll pot, 335 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: every stalin. They'd all be stabbing each other in the 336 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: back and murdering each other's moms to try to rise 337 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 5: to the top of that hierarchy. Incredibly dangerous situation. Secondly, 338 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: we see the very people who are building these institutions, 339 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: and we know quite a bit about them because they 340 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: speak publicly, they write essays, they give speeches, and we 341 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 5: can see from their actions the kind of things that 342 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: they believe. And the Chinese Communist Party is a very 343 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 5: good example of this. I mean, these are ruthless individuals. 344 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 5: They've slaughtered at least one hundred million of their own people, 345 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 5: if you don't count the babies that they've butchered in 346 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 5: forced abortions. What do you think they will do to 347 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 5: you if they end up in charge of a global 348 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: system with the ability to impose their will on you. 349 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: So I think for a whole number of reasons, and 350 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 5: we could go into the biblical reason. You know, it 351 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: was God's idea to divide people up into nations. He 352 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 5: says it repeatedly in the scriptures, and there's just something 353 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 5: really important about the limiting power that nations have. So 354 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of reasons, right, but those 355 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: are some of the key ones. 356 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: Let me drill down on a couple of them, because 357 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I think you've really captured the essence of this to 358 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: the extent. You can either have sovereign nations, including the 359 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: one we care most about, of course, which is ours, 360 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: a constitutional republic, which is rooted in the conviction that 361 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: God has given us unalienable rights and we have a 362 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: state to guarantee them and protect them. On the one hand, 363 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: or you can have some kind of entity, presumably made 364 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: up of multiple sub entities, that will take care of 365 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: governing you instead, and you're intrusting to them protecting your 366 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: powers or freedoms. I should say, if one could possibly 367 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: do that, This seems like an open and shut case, 368 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's been true. You've participated in a 369 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: lot of the work that we've done as a sovereignty coalition. 370 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: When you talk to the American people about this, this 371 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: isn't even a close call. People are horrified to even 372 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: hear that this is a foot let alone that it's 373 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: in prospect. So why is it, if it's that obvious 374 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: that this is a bad idea, that it remains a 375 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: persistent problem, and in fact, if anything seems to be 376 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: gaining ascendency. 377 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think the reason this continues is because there's 378 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: a lot of powerful people who want it to continue. 379 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 5: Frank and I mentioned the Chinese Communist Party. While they're 380 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: taking over the architecture of global governance, at the same time, 381 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: they are also progressively strengthening it. But at the same time, 382 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: we have very powerful forces in the United States, some 383 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: of the most powerful men on Wall Street. Larry Fink 384 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: is a good example. He just became the co chair 385 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 5: of the World Economic Forum. This guy's on record publicly 386 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 5: to the media saying that markets prefer totalitarian government. I mean, 387 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 5: this is crazy stuff. This is absolutely crazy stuff. Totalitarian 388 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 5: societies don't innovate, they imitate, they rip off people's technology. 389 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: But we have very very powerful people in the United States, 390 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: in China, in Europe, in London, a lot of the 391 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: capitals of the world, and also a lot of the 392 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 5: powerful financial people who believe that they will benefit by 393 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: creating this And I think their most powerful tool, Frank, 394 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: you alluded to it briefly in the introduction. They're manipulating 395 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 5: the minds and the beliefs of the next generation, and 396 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: they're doing it very strategically, very deliberately. The UN even 397 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: has an agency, it's called UNESCO that since the nineteen 398 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: forties has been very openly working to groom children to 399 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: believe that global government is the answer to all of 400 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: our problems. If we have a global government, we won't 401 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: have war. If we have a global government, we can 402 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: stop climate change. We have a global government, we won't 403 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 5: have international tax avoidance and evasion. So they are being 404 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: conditioned to see global government as the solution to everything. 405 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 5: And they're also being conditioned to believe that the system 406 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: we are leaving behind, at least here in America, the system, 407 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 5: as you mentioned, of God given rights of a government 408 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: that exists to protect these rights, that that is somehow malevolent, 409 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: that it was created by bad guys because they are dead, 410 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: and they were white, and they were you know, two 411 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty years ago, and so therefore we shouldn't 412 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: care anymore, or we should reject what they had to say, 413 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 5: even though that represented I think one of the highest 414 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: achievements that mankind ever reached. So we have all these 415 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: forces coalescing around this idea, and people are going to 416 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 5: see in the next few years it's going to become 417 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: increasingly obvious. They're going to be coming out of the 418 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: closet more and more. 419 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, coming out of the closet. It's an interesting turn 420 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: of phrase. In this case, you've mentioned something that again 421 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: has not gotten nearly the attention that it deserves, I think, 422 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: despite your best efforts, and that is the Chinese Communist 423 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: role in these institutions. And it's a stunning statistic how 424 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: many of them are actually run by Chinese nationals. Talk 425 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about how that's come to pass and 426 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: the implications of it. If you think you're getting something 427 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: benign under a Secretary General, like terrorists at the United Nations, 428 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: are you, in fact basically just getting a puppet for 429 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party. 430 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: There's no question about it. And Guteris is a really 431 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: good example. I mean, this is a guy who openly 432 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 5: allied himself with socialist his entire political career. He was 433 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: a member of the Portuguese Socialist Party. After that he 434 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: actually became the head of. 435 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: The Socialist Communists. 436 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're you know, Communists with a slightly different 437 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 5: outer rapper. But if you look at his track record 438 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: as head of the Socialist International, that's the biggest organization 439 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: of socialist political parties in the world. There's a lot 440 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: of former Communist parties in there, there's a lot of 441 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 5: current Communists and Marxist and there's some of whom have 442 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 5: the blood of millions of innocent people on their hands. 443 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: So you listen to gu terrorists, He's got much more 444 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: in common with Shiji Ping and the CCP than he does, say, 445 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: with the ideas that made America great, with the ideas 446 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 5: of the American founding fathers. 447 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: And he's a Chinese national, he just you know, aligns 448 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: with them. 449 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: That's right. 450 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: But how about those actual you know, Chinese Communist Party 451 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: members and the like who are in charge of these organizations. 452 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, the un is absolutely filled with leaders from the CCP, 453 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 5: and they're not even shy about admitting it anymore. They 454 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: have a school of Global governance in Beijing at the 455 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 5: Foreign Service University, and they are openly taking over the 456 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 5: architecture of the U. And I started digging into this 457 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: over a decade ago. I've written many articles about it 458 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 5: in the New American in the Epic Times in Diplomat magazine. 459 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 5: The last time I looked, and it's been maybe a 460 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: couple of years since I've looked, but five of the 461 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: fifteen un specialized agencies were being run by members of 462 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: the CCP. At least another three or four by well 463 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 5: known puppets of the CCP, And for perspective, there was 464 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 5: one American running one of the least important of these agencies, 465 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: the World Food Program. So that gives you a sense 466 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 5: of how deeply infiltrated. 467 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: John McCain's widow the last time I checked, So I'm 468 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: not even sure she's on our team right beyond American. So, Alex, 469 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: we have to take a short break. But when we 470 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: come back, I want to get into some of the 471 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: things that you alluded to here that are imputed to 472 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: be under better care. If a global enterprise is running 473 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: things taxes, for example, it's one of the things you mentioned, 474 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: and what that actually might mean if this kind of 475 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: organization gets access to its own funding streams, is that 476 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: likely to produce more abuse or less? We'll find the 477 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: answer out from Alex Newman on the other side of 478 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: this short bring. Please stay tuned. We're back and so 479 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: is Alex Newman. Praise the Lord. Liberty Sentinel is his 480 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: battle station, and you can find out all about it. 481 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: You can find out all about it at Libertycentinel dot org. Alex. 482 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I was putting the question to you that if you 483 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: are concerned that global governance might run a muck, if 484 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: it represents a concentration of power unchecked by sovereign nation 485 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: states opting out or refusing perhaps to finance its operations, 486 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you're going to love the idea that the United Nations 487 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: will begin being able to levy taxes. As I understand, 488 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: its starting with something called the International Maritime Organization, one 489 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: of these subsidiaries of the UN that I think probably 490 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: most of us have never heard of. Talk about how 491 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: this is likely to work in practice. 492 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 5: Alex, Thanks Frank, and this has already been approved by 493 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 5: multiple levels of UN governments, including the International Maritime Committee. 494 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 5: So this is coming at us like a freight train 495 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 5: right now. The UN hopes it's going to start collecting 496 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 5: the first taxes in the beginning of twenty twenty seven, 497 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 5: and I've seen their estimates. They hope one hundred billion 498 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: dollars a year will be coming in from this tax 499 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: on emissions of international shipping as a starting point. Now, 500 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 5: before we even get to the specifics of this tax, 501 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: I want to just echo what you said, Frank. One 502 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 5: of the last restraints on the power of the United 503 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 5: Nations is the fact that they need to ask their 504 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: member states for money when they want to do things. 505 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: If they want to start a peacekeeping operations what they 506 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 5: call their wars, if they want to hire more UN police, 507 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 5: if they want to drag somebody before the International Criminal 508 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 5: Court like they're trying to do and Yahoo or eventually 509 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 5: probably Donald Trump, they need money for those things. And 510 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: right now governments can say no, there's not much that 511 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 5: the UN can do to extract that money. Once they 512 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 5: get their own source of independent revenue, which is what 513 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 5: this tax on international emissions from shipping will do, that 514 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 5: last constraint will be severed and they will essentially be 515 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 5: able to do whatever they want. They'll be able to 516 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: hire more troops, hire more police, wige more propaganda campaigns, 517 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 5: hire more bureaucrats, strengthen progressively these international kangaroo courts that 518 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 5: they're establishing. So this is it's hard to overstate the 519 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 5: danger of this, and I don't want to point out 520 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 5: too about this shipping tax. This is just the camel's 521 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 5: nose under the tent. The UN itself says, the emissions 522 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 5: from international shipping, and I should point out too, the 523 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 5: idea that there's something wrong with CO two emissions is preposterous. 524 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: We exhale CO two, it's not hurting the climate. But 525 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 5: if international emissions is only three percent from shipping, what 526 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 5: then would that mean for agriculture, which they say is 527 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 5: thirty percent of emissions, What would it mean for transportation, 528 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 5: for cars, for energy production. If they can tax shipping 529 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 5: to save the climate, they can certainly tax any of 530 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 5: those other things to deal with this international emergency. In fact, 531 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 5: the International Court of Justice just ruled less than two 532 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 5: months ago that governments have an obligation under international law 533 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 5: to fight CO two and to fight climate change, and 534 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 5: the failure to do so constitutes what they call on 535 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 5: internationally wrongful act. So they're laying the groundwork here for 536 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 5: global taxes, global prosecutions of those who refuse to comply, 537 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 5: and right now, the only thing standing between that and 538 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 5: where we're at right now is Donald Trump. 539 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: Right and Donald Trump has, to his great credit, responded 540 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: to what the Chinese Communist Asset who runs the World 541 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: Health Organization has done in the past, initially during his 542 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: first term by saying we're withdrawing from the WHO, reiterating 543 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: that on the campaign trail, and then when he first 544 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: came back to office. That will take another couple of 545 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: months to become realized. What we're hearing, though, Alex and 546 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: I'd like you to respond to this charge, is that well, 547 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: to the extent the United States is withdrawing or is 548 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: cutting the funding for the WHO or the UN or 549 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: other of its operations, the Chinese are the beneficiaries. Their 550 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: influence is growing. They're going to, you know, pick up 551 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: authority and control on the cheap, no less, they're not 552 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: going to have to pony up the kind of money 553 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: that we did to exercise dominion. Now, you made the 554 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: point that they're serious about staffing these things. That's bad enough, 555 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: But do you you know, agree that to the extent 556 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is trying to hold the line here, it's 557 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: probably net net actually strengthening China's position in these international 558 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: organizations to our detriment. 559 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think the CCP would have even more influence 560 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 5: over these institutions, but we need to be realistic. They 561 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 5: already dominate these institutions, and the only reason these institutions 562 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 5: are a threat to US is because our governments have 563 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 5: historically paid attention to what they have to say with 564 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 5: the withdrawal. And I've seen some really good arguments from 565 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 5: the folks at Heritage and from other places that withdrawal 566 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 5: means we're out. You can't just have another president at 567 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 5: some future point jump back in without congressional approval. So 568 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 5: as long as the US government is not involved in 569 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 5: these things, whether they're controlled by China or not, really 570 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 5: shouldn't make any big difference to us. And I would 571 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 5: hope that most of our allies would want to leave 572 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: these things too. Why should we willingly put ourselves under 573 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 5: the thumb of a mass murdering terrorist organization masquerading as 574 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: a legitimate political party. So we have I think a 575 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: great advantage by removing ourselves from these things, and whether 576 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 5: China gets stronger within them when they're irrelevant doesn't really 577 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 5: make any difference. 578 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: I must say I'm of mixed minds about this. I 579 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: think the damage that can be done by the one 580 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: entity that actually has some authority to impose itself on us, 581 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: and that would be the One Security Council would be 582 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: worse if we did not have a veto that we 583 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: hopefully have the President willing to exercise there. But the 584 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: larger point is that what we've certainly seen, whether it's 585 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: in the taxing arena or whether it's in the public 586 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: health arena, and you've been doing a masterful job, i 587 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: must say, monitoring and raising awareness about all of these things, 588 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: is this notion that in case of an international health 589 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: emergency it's a pandemic, we will be told by the 590 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: UN agency head. In this case, again a Chinese communist 591 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: asset named teddriskis named Teddrisk bracis what to do about 592 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: that pandemic, not only that it exists, but that it 593 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: is now going to be our job to implement his direction. 594 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: This is all very alarming stuff, and I'm a little 595 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: bit apprehensive that just getting ourselves out from under it 596 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: it's not going to make it go away as a threat. 597 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about that on the 598 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: other side of the short break with Alex Newman. Stay tuned, 599 00:41:18,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: please welcome back, and special welcome once again to one 600 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: of our favorite contributors, Alex Newman, a host of his 601 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: own program, A Liberty Sentinel Check all of his wonderful 602 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: workout at Liberty Centinel dot org. Alex We've been talking 603 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: about the rising power that has been accumulating under the 604 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: auspices of these various global governance advocates in the United Nations, 605 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: in the World Health Organization, National Maritime Organization I don't know, 606 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: and not least in the World Economic Forum. And I 607 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: want to come back to the Larry Fink and his 608 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: new gig in a moment, but before we do, just 609 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: on this question of imputing to these wholly unaccountable bureaucrats, 610 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: whether it's guterists at the UN or it's people like 611 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: Embrasis at the World Health Organization, it seems to be 612 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: something that is becoming much more invasive, if I can 613 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: use that expression. You were present, notably when the Pact 614 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: for the Future was proved at the United Nations. Tell 615 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: us about what it gives guitarists the authority to do 616 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: and how he is responding to that new authorization. 617 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 5: I thank you, Frank. Yeah, I was there covering this 618 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 5: for the New American magazine. It was unbelievable to see 619 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 5: this because I've never seen such openness about the direction 620 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 5: that the UN was going. And they actually framed it 621 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 5: as the UN was becoming UN two point zero, and 622 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 5: whereas UN one point oh was supposed to deal with 623 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: international peace and security, UN two point zero was going 624 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: to handle education, the environment, the economy, climate change, the internet, 625 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 5: free speech, artificial intelligence of every area of life. And 626 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 5: in this agreement that they adopted by so called consensus, 627 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 5: in other words, every government in the world agreed to 628 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 5: at least let it pass and become part of the 629 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 5: body of what they kind of pretend like is international law. 630 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 5: They specifically say in there. And I warned that this 631 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 5: was coming in twenty twenty three in a big article 632 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 5: for the Epic Times, because I had the reports from 633 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 5: Gutera's they say that the UN needs to be strengthened 634 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 5: to deal with international emergencies. And in the original policy 635 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 5: brief that Gutera has put out in twenty twenty three, 636 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 5: I believe it was Policy Brief number two, he lists 637 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: all kinds of different international emergencies that might require UN leadership, 638 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 5: climate change, environmental problems, wars, economic problems, public health concerns, 639 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 5: black swan events, that we could predict something in that 640 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 5: outer space. It could be even a regional issue. And 641 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 5: they say then right in the text of this document, 642 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 5: that the UN and its agencies would become the primary 643 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 5: decision making authority, and that all stakeholders would have to 644 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 5: defer to their decisions. And so what you have here 645 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 5: is quite literally the announcement of a global government style 646 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 5: machine that would take the reins over everything in the 647 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 5: event of an emergency declared by the way by Guteris 648 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 5: or a future Secretary General, with no checks and balances 649 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 5: on that declaration. 650 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: And to the extent that this is becoming again more 651 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: enshrined in so called international law, more enabled by acquiescence 652 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: at best, at worst, you know, actual connivance as we 653 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: saw under the Biden administration, and the ascendency in a 654 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: position that is not necessarily in an official sense powerful, 655 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: but by virtue of the economic resources at the disposal 656 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: of a guy like Larry Fink now running the World 657 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: Economic Forum, to say nothing of, you know, as using 658 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: Ping's new global governance initiative becoming the top priority of 659 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: his state craft. It would seem as though those of 660 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: us who are worried about our sovereignty and the implications 661 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: of it being crushed in the interest of world government, 662 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: are going to have a full employment program at best, Alex, 663 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: what do we do about what is now emerging as 664 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: you've described it so well in two segments of preceding 665 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: in this one. 666 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll start by saying it's very hard to overstate 667 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 5: the influence of Larry Fink in this whole process. A 668 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 5: lot of these globalists have talked about the three legged 669 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 5: stool approach to making these transformational global changes. The first 670 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 5: leg of the stool is, of course governments, and that's 671 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 5: where the UN comes in with one hundred and ninety 672 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 5: three member states. The second leg of the stool is 673 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 5: the business community, and that's where the World Economic Forum 674 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 5: came and they actually signed a strategic partnership with the 675 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 5: UN about seven years ago where they specifically said they 676 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 5: were going to bring the international business community to the 677 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 5: table on implementing the UN's twenty thirty Agenda, which they 678 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 5: called the Master Plan for Humanity, which the CCP boasted 679 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 5: they played a crucial role in developing. And then, of course, 680 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 5: the third leg of the stool is religion, which right 681 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 5: now they're also working at the same time to bring 682 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 5: all the major religions of the world on board with 683 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 5: this agenda. And so to your question, about what do 684 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 5: we do about this. I think we need a multifaceted approach. 685 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 5: The first step is to understand what we're dealing with here. 686 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 5: We're not dealing with people who just have bad policy ideas. 687 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 5: We're dealing with people who want power over our lives, 688 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 5: and they need to be opposed. And I think step 689 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 5: one it begins in our individual lives. We need to 690 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 5: protect our children from this kind of indoctrination that the 691 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 5: UN is offering. Trump has done a great thing by 692 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 5: getting us out of UNESCO, but UNESCA actually bragged in 693 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 5: their response to Trump that they're going to keep working 694 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 5: with all their American partners anyway, and so they basically said, 695 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 5: we don't care if you leave, We're going to keep 696 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 5: brainwashing American children. So I'd urge American parents really take 697 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 5: this seriously. My wife and I we homeschool, are six children. 698 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 5: We use classical conversations. I wouldn't trade it for the world, 699 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 5: But I encourage everybody find a suitable alternative, whether it's 700 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 5: a good Christian school, Catholic school, homeschool, lots of good 701 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 5: options out there. That's step one, protect your children from 702 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 5: being indoctrinated. Step two, we need to be involved in 703 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 5: the public arena. We need our members of Congress to 704 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 5: listen to what we're saying. We need the President to 705 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 5: keep fighting this, and we need Congress to enshrine into 706 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 5: law a lot of what Donald Trump has done through 707 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 5: executive order and executive policy. So critical that we get 708 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 5: this done, Frank. 709 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: Because if you don't do that, of course you get 710 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: God forbid, another leftist president like Biden, and the first 711 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: thing they do is reversal of the good executive orders 712 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: and put in terrible ones. Alex. I think these admonitions 713 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: and recommendations are of the absolute extreme importance, and I 714 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the clarity that you bring to these topics every 715 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: single day. I relish our interactions, sometimes on your program, 716 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: sometimes on this one, because I've always learned from them 717 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: and feel invigorated, if somewhat alarmed, to be sure, but 718 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 1: nonetheless invigorated by what you are calling for and calling 719 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: on us to rise to. If we don't, ladies and gentlemen, 720 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: we will, as Ronald Reagan used to say, tell our 721 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: children and our children's children what it was like to 722 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: live in America when it was free. That mustn't happen. 723 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: We'll fight it. Thank you come back to us soon, Alex. 724 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: I hope the rest of you do the same next time. 725 00:49:52,360 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: Until then, go forth, they multiply w