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Speaker 1: This way up for Angela gee, and what a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to have Dwane Curry here with me. The original Okay.

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Speaker 2: The original Okay Gangster.

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Speaker 1: The original Gay Gangster, The Gg's Baby, and if you

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Speaker 1: but then also the movie Fighting to Be Me, the

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Speaker 1: Dwan Curry Story. It's a BT plus original movie. Man,

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Speaker 1: you guys have got to watch it. I want to say.

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Speaker 1: I was actually watching it with Lindsay Granger and she

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Speaker 1: was so into it. She was like, I'm about to

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm you know, I'm self filled with love that

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Speaker 3: everyone loves it, you know what I'm saying, because it's

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Speaker 3: a story of unconditional live when you look at it, and.

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Speaker 1: I want to really get into this because you know,

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Speaker 1: fighting to be Me first of all, that's the name

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Speaker 1: of it, right, the Dwayne Curry Story. What made you

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Speaker 1: say fighting to Be Me as the title of the

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Speaker 1: story that you wanted to tell about yourself and your

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Speaker 1: childhood and how you became who you are today.

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Speaker 3: Well, in our actuality, I was sitting up and I

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Speaker 3: was speaking with one of the executive producers, one of

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Speaker 3: the executive producers, which is Deleise James, and we were

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Speaker 3: trying to come up with a story, or not a story,

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Speaker 3: but a title, and she said, well, Dwyn, what do

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Speaker 3: you think about fighting to be mean? I said, perfect,

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Speaker 3: that's right, that's good, fighting to be mean the Duin's

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Speaker 3: Curry story. Because I've been fighting or my life. I

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Speaker 3: feel like Sophia, I've been fighting all my life, so

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Speaker 3: I have. I've just been fighting to be me. So

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Speaker 3: it just only made sense. And once you watch the

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Speaker 1: I feel like true stories are so much more fascinating

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Speaker 1: anything that anybody could ever. I always say that, right,

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Speaker 1: And your story is amazing. So you come from Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but you ended up in Oakland, and you know, early

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Speaker 3: I'm an open book, so I mean, where do you

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Speaker 3: want to start? We can go. You know, the childhood

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Speaker 1: Your name is Eddie. At that time, your mother named

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Speaker 3: Well, my name still is Addie, so they do say

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Speaker 3: although I am, you know, trands and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: I don't get.

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Speaker 3: You know, when someone is trying to intentionally insult you,

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Speaker 3: they don't do it. It's you know, I look at

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Speaker 3: it as you know. It's love.

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Speaker 1: Your mama say, look, I named you Eddie, and I

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Speaker 3: She did not play. She'll call me whatever she wants,

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Speaker 3: you know, but girl, you made me lose my train.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about you had a good childhood.

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Speaker 3: I had a good childhood, and then after the fact,

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Speaker 3: People knew before I did, and I mean, well I knew,

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Speaker 3: And my mother still says today, I don't care what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't understand how hard it is because they'll

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I understand what you're saying when it comes

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Speaker 3: down to that. You know, I came out and you

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Speaker 3: And I think I helped him to evolve into being fierce,

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you say you don't have no support,

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Speaker 1: You think that drugs is also away for you trying

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Speaker 3: especially by way of my uncle. He totally saved my life.

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Speaker 3: When I say that, I mean what you see in

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Speaker 1: You got to Oakland after your mom sent you to

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Speaker 4: And you're like, bro, I was so devastating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, is this motherfucker really asking me?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, okay, now I'm not in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: he done already drove me by the homeless encampment. And

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Speaker 2: And I said, yes.

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Speaker 1: It's a bigger deal to you than it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you know, people would say it's a choice, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is basically what you said, is in

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Speaker 1: Then, because it's not about having sex. People also think

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Speaker 2: Are a straighter.

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Speaker 3: I got many homies right right, so many of them

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Speaker 1: How did you feel about telling your story for the

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Speaker 1: Fighting to Be Me, like Trap Queens was first and

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Speaker 1: that's an actual documentary. How was that for you, that

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Speaker 3: It was an experience because They've done three seasons, and

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Speaker 3: I am the only transgender that is on there that

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Speaker 2: These people took.

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Speaker 3: Such a chance on me because they don't know how

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Speaker 3: and give you the tea, right, And that's what I did.

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Speaker 3: I just show all the tea.

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Speaker 2: Mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You've literally worked with some stars like Mariah Carey,

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Speaker 3: I love Mariah, Lisa Ray. Lisa Ray is my heart.

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Speaker 3: That is my heart. That's my baby. Actually her and

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Speaker 3: my best friend has the same birthday there. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you know, they'd be giving me the blows sometimes, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, even like for you doing this,

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Speaker 1: and Lisa raise also a large part of the story

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Speaker 2: Yes, and yo, y'all, yo.

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Speaker 1: Y'all amazing like that you got to work with these icons,

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Speaker 2: Girl, he kept that rolax. So now they embellished that.

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Speaker 3: Nature that were used were predominantly for flocks. So whenever

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Speaker 4: I kept y'all separate, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so where watch the movie?

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Speaker 4: Y'all right?

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Speaker 1: How embarrassing? How embarrassing is that when you have all

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Speaker 2: Like what exactly.

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Speaker 4: Y'all okay and Lisa right?

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Speaker 2: You know, they lifted me.

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Speaker 3: You know how they always say it takes a village

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Speaker 1: Was there, right you know, and the money is flowing, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The money was gone.

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Speaker 3: So look girl, one thing I don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: Now, part of the story is also when you go

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Speaker 1: that's a conversation that's happening even now as on people's

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Speaker 3: Well, when it comes down to it, when I ended

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Speaker 3: You know, that was really bad. But when it came

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Speaker 3: but respect. I only had that one incident that was

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Speaker 1: The movie right right now and that but that's really bad.

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Speaker 3: And on top of that, like you were saying, me

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Speaker 3: what's the point.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole lot of work.

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Speaker 3: To be you and all of that, and I definitely

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't have to do nothing. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it should be a choice, and.

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Speaker 1: You think it should be a choice. That's so hard. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be across the board whatever, you

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, I know for me, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: And you're not going back to prison ever.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're doing movies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing movies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nobody doing that's done, that's in the past.

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Speaker 1: What do you think if you wouldn't have gone to prison,

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Speaker 1: what would have been You think that things would have

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Speaker 1: been even worse? You know what I'm saying, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: for me. Do you think that there was any type

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Speaker 3: I feel as though it did help me in many ways.

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Speaker 3: I've already been shot twice. I didn't necessarily foresee.

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Speaker 2: That coming, but.

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Speaker 3: You know, everything it was just it was so rapid,

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Speaker 3: It humbled me a great deal, you know, because how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did it?

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Speaker 4: Did it?

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Speaker 3: Did?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: It changed a lot and how I see things and

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Speaker 1: And it was around you too, because like you said,

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Speaker 3: Was my niece and her friends. They inserted the youth

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Speaker 3: back in me. So that was fun to be around them,

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Speaker 1: Now, what about the rest of the gay gangsters? What

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Speaker 1: about like what do you still keep in contact? What's

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Speaker 1: the deal with with that? And were they around when

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Speaker 1: the gay gangsters. You're always running it up.

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Speaker 2: I just saw them at the premiere.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, And so y'aos.

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Speaker 3: My son, he was there. Rashi, my nephew, his lover, Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were all. There are the ones who

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Speaker 2: And then who else? Zaire?

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Speaker 4: He's not here, Zaire.

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Speaker 1: So Zaire was your that was my lover, your lover.

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Speaker 1: But now I'm trying to figure out. So he was

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Speaker 1: but it was his religion that prevented him from knowing

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't figure it out. You don't know who.

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Speaker 1: Is I was trying to. I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: because it's a real person it is.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna and I'm not gonna do it

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Speaker 2: on air.

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Speaker 1: So I was watching it and I was like, you

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Speaker 2: You know who it.

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Speaker 1: Is, but Zare is deceased and yes, yes, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure.

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Speaker 4: You said what you better not.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen, y'all, gonna tell me, but you're gonna watch.

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Speaker 2: I am gonna find out.

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Speaker 3: But okay, she's gonna find out in a minute before

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Speaker 2: She's now look.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in a situation like that, that's also

442
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: a learning lesson, right, because you want to be with

443
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Speaker 1: somebody who's loud and proud to please. You want to

444
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Speaker 1: be with somebody it was loud and proud to have

445
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Speaker 1: you and to be able to bring you around their family.

446
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: But like you said, it's not easy for everybody even

447
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So I'm about to

448
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: find out. Y'all listen, if you got to watch this movie,

449
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: and then y'all gotta at me and let me know,

450
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: how did you feel just watching this movie for the

451
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Speaker 1: first time? When you had the premiere with everybody in

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Speaker 1: the room.

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Speaker 2: It was surreal mm hm.

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00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 3: And you know it was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Ok I'm not.

456
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: I'm not dishing the tea, okay, but no, it was

457
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Speaker 1: amazing with my family to have them there and all

458
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Speaker 1: of my loved ones.

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Speaker 3: You know, the most amazing thing I can say about

460
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Speaker 3: a biopeic is that I'm still alive. You know, I

461
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: was there for the line who plays me so that

462
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: he did.

463
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Speaker 1: An amazing job too.

464
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: He shadowed me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing.

466
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: It was right there, he already had it. But it

467
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: was great to be able to have the actual individuals

468
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: that are in alignment alive, especially my mother and.

469
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Speaker 1: So, oh my god, I love me. She was listening.

470
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Speaker 1: I was happy when she got that for a.

471
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Coke girl, That's exactly how Mimmy was. Yeah, so it was.

472
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: It was funny.

473
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: And then Derek's character, Gregg Junior, Judge Matthew's son, Oh

474
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: my god, oh yeah it was.

475
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Speaker 1: And Judge matthis is so Detroit. Yes he is for

476
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Speaker 1: him to have he was the executive producer, right, Yes.

477
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: He got to hurry up and get us to Detroit

478
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: because the people's burning down the door.

479
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: Did you have l will towards your mom for kicking

480
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: you out or did you understand.

481
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: At that particular time, I didn't really understand. I didn't understand.

482
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: I was scared because you know, now I'm going somewhere

483
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: that I've never been, California, and you know, so I

484
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: was angry at first, But once I got into rehab

485
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 3: and things of that nature, then I ended up forming

486
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: more clarity and I understood where she was coming.

487
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: From Okay and Rechard and it was hard for her.

488
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: You was a handful, Yeah, it was.

489
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: You know, my mother is a tough cookie, but you

490
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: know she did what was best for me and I

491
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: understand that I get it right.

492
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well listen you guys, make sure you

493
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: please watch Finding to Be Me, the Dwanne Curry story.

494
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: It's the reasons like this that I have BT plus okay,

495
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: to be able to watch shows like and movies like this.

496
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: It was actually phenomenal. You know, sometimes we'd be like, Okay,

497
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: what's it? But when I tell you, you are going to

498
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: not be able to walk away, like, sit down, watch

499
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: it with your friends. It's amazing to have you here,

500
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: like you said, to be able to tell your story

501
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: and fashion wise, like what do you want to do

502
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: now when it comes? Because it felt like you really

503
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: had an eye for that. So aside from this, what

504
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: is your life like today on a day to day basis?

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Speaker 3: Well, right now I'm promoting the movie, and right now

506
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm fighting for the series okay, okay.

507
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: And the book. So my focal point is more there.

508
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not running up and down Rodale Drive,

509
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: running and Gucci and all that shopping. Those days are over,

510
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, the legends, the people that I've touched, you know,

511
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: it feels my heart and I just always feel like,

512
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: no sooner than you've achieved one goal, than there's always

513
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: another one to meet.

514
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Speaker 4: Mm hm.

515
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: So it's not how you fall down, it's how you

516
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: get up. And I'm you know fashion, I've already conquered it, right,

517
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: what's next? I'm ready to conquer this?

518
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Is it single life or you what's going on with that?

519
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: It's definitely single life? Okay, I am single, so we'll

520
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: see if it's sending potentials hit me on the original.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you so much, Dwane Curry.

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Speaker 4: Watch that again.

523
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: It's fighting to be me, the Dwane Curry story. If

524
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: you need to go back and watch the American Gangster

525
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: Chad Queen's episode, you can do that too and this,

526
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: but make sure you support as we should.

527
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I love you, all right.

528
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

529
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: I love you too. I'm so glad that you were

530
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: able to tell your story. I know this is going

531
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: to resonate with a lot of people.

532
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know you are that girl, so you done

533
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: just pushing it out there. So I love it.

534
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: Thank you.

535
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: So proud of you, and congrats the billboard in Times Square.

536
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: That's an amazing moment, and that's a huge deal.

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00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: I would remember think that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a moment in Times Square of all places.

539
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 2: You're all right there, Adam Winton took pictures.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yes, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: And b E T Plus and Megamine Media and Judge

542
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: Matthis and trustor small Wood, just everybody and the Realise

543
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Speaker 3: James and Tiffany Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: I can't forget nobody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all my people, thank you well,