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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Sophia Bush here. Welcome to Work in Progress,

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Speaker 1: where I talked to people who inspire me about how

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Speaker 1: they're still going. Guys. Alana Glazer. She is hilarious and

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Speaker 1: brilliant and an awesome friend and an amazing political advocate,

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Speaker 1: and she's on today's episode of Work in Progress. Alana

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Speaker 1: co created and starred in the masterpiece Broad City, and

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Speaker 1: I had the chance to work with her in our

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Speaker 1: upcoming film False Positive. When she asked me to do

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Speaker 1: this movie with her, I just about passed out, and

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Speaker 1: it was every bit as dreamy as I would have

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Speaker 1: hoped it to be. And by the way, not only

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Speaker 1: does she start in it, she wrote it. She's a badass.

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Speaker 1: I was so happy to sit down with a Lana

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Speaker 1: not only to talk about her incredible career, but also

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Speaker 1: her active is um. She co founded the Generator Collective,

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Speaker 1: which is so cool. It allows people to share how

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Speaker 1: they've been impacted directly by any political policy and talk

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Speaker 1: about the change they'd like to see in any arena.

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Speaker 1: She is just so great and I hope you love

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Speaker 1: this conversation as much as I did. Well, thanks for coming.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having very excited one of my favorite humans

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Speaker 1: to hang out with in New York. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people when we were working on our movie, we're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: how do you guys know each other? Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of seems like she's the coolest person ever. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she is um And when do you remember

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Speaker 1: when we first because we connected on Instagram. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: had just heard about you for a long time from

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Speaker 1: Paul do w Down's who knew you from years back,

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Speaker 1: and I was one of my first friends in New York.

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Speaker 1: So like the animal years of our twenties we spent together.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. So I had just heard about you

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Speaker 1: for a long time. And then I really love the

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Speaker 1: way you do Instagram, and I just like love how

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Speaker 1: you're available. You know what I mean, you make yourself

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Speaker 1: available through your public platform. You mean, you're like, it

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Speaker 1: really loved that. And then we connected. And then when

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Speaker 1: John and I were writing False Positive, there was just

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Speaker 1: this moment like this character, your character, Corrigan, had been

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Speaker 1: different iterations of her throughout different iterations of the script.

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Speaker 1: But then when I was like, hold on, do you

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Speaker 1: know Sophia Bush and we were like watching videos of you.

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Speaker 1: It really it's so much easier to write when you

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Speaker 1: like write with a person in mind. And yeah, that

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy to be asked to do anything pretty much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't happen a lot. No, And it's

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Speaker 1: a wild thing too, to be on the receiving end

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Speaker 1: of a weird place. But it was a wild thing

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Speaker 1: just as a you know, as a business person and

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Speaker 1: and can't imagine doing it without you, and will you

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Speaker 1: come to New York and make this movie? I was like,

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Speaker 1: what the fund is happening? Yeah, of course I will.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm so glad you had that moment.

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Speaker 1: It was so I was like, this is a really

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Speaker 1: so much fun to come out here and watch you

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Speaker 1: the set in the way that you did, and so

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Speaker 1: interesting I think to to watch the way, um that

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Speaker 1: It was pretty rad. Thank you so much. I really

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Speaker 1: honestly think only a woman could do it the way

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Speaker 1: Like the internet is raising consciousness about our own personal narratives.

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Speaker 1: like really smart or whatever. But thank you. So I'm like, so,

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Speaker 1: why don't I know pretty much like anything about the

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Speaker 1: government when the elections are who I'm voting for, who's

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00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: up as a candidate, And it's like because it is

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00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: made elusive to me, and for people who have less

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00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: privileged privilege than I do, it's made even more elusive

432
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: and like impossible to call through. You know when you

433
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: start like googling like the elections and it's like tomorrow

434
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I'm like a fucking idiot, like cheating,

435
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, like doing my homework the night before, like

436
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: writing my essay on add or all the night before

437
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: it's do or whatever. You know, it's like I'm going

438
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: so hard to cram for it or whatever. So I've

439
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: kind of made my journey in learning minimal civics available

440
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: to anybody who wants to partake, so it at this

441
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: point it's a live event series where I interview activists

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00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: and politicians and I kind of want to know where

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00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: they both fit in the system. I'm kind of trying

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00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: to learn what the system is, because I actually think

445
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: it's like a good system. It's just being abused, like

446
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: you were saying, like it was made out of the ideal.

447
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: So the system is pretty good and does have checks

448
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: and balances and all this and not if we don't

449
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: flex on it. We feel like we have this amazing tool.

450
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: As as funked up as Instagram and Facebook is, we

451
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: we have this tool available. And our goal is to

452
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: make minimal civic engagement cool. And to make minimal civic

453
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: engagement cool is a big is one of our tenants.

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00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: And also to make it okay to say I don't know,

455
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't know anything. I literally know

456
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: so little, and the way I find out is like

457
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: last minute on the fucking Internet. I do not know

458
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: how the system works, how local elections work. And I

459
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: want to make that journey available and accessible and make

460
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: it less shameful to not know same, same, same, same, same,

461
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: because it's interesting. I had. I had kind of like

462
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Speaker 1: a whoa leading into the midterms moment, because I am

463
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: a person who a lot of people reach out to,

464
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: going you know what about this? And I go, I mean, weirdly,

465
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Speaker 1: I know a lot about this, and I feel like

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about this. It's so complex,

467
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. So yeah, I feel like I sort

468
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: of feel like the last ten years of working in

469
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: activism and politics for me has been like grad school,

470
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: where I'm trying to learn all the time, and the

471
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: more I learn, the more I realized wherever I think

472
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: the bottom of the knowledge barrel is, It's like story

473
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: is below and I have to keep deep diving and

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: I have to keep looking. But I think when we

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00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: turn it into like a mission or a passion, it

476
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: gets really exciting. I get really excited to learn new

477
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: things about what's going on in a system. I get

478
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I get excited to learn about what's happening in a

479
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: local election. And that's a little bit of a mental

480
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: game you have to play with yourself to to flip

481
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the narrative of pressure on its head. The thing with

482
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: our another like thing where like um defining with generators

483
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: instead of like you should, you should data do I'm

484
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: like I should. Yeah, I will just take the hit

485
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: of like I should. I've been away for a long time,

486
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: I should do this like volunteering thing like big deal?

487
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: What is minimal? What does minimal civic engagement look like?

488
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: And when I think about the energy of like should,

489
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm like my friend Emily always says, like stop shooting

490
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: all over yourself. But when we look around and it's like,

491
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: well we should do this that other, when someone puts

492
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: it on you, you should, it doesn't feel great. It

493
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: feels like a pressure. And I think so much of

494
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: politics again because people want it to feel prohibitive to

495
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the masses, because the masses it's meant to be for

496
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: us and bias, they've made it feel pressurized so people.

497
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Studies show that people feel as tense going into the

498
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: election booth as they did on the day they took

499
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: their s A T S. And it's like you can

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00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: take a cheat sheet or a friend like literally, it's

501
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: not a test, it's it's an expression. So I think

502
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: about how to turn the idea of that system feeling pressurized,

503
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: flipping it over and to me, the other side of

504
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: that coin is privileged, Like I have the privilege of volunteering,

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I have the privilege of voting. I have the privilege

506
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: of living in a democracy where like if I'm fucking

507
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: pissed about that school board measure, I get to vote

508
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: on it. I don't even have kids, and I can

509
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: be like, this is some bullshit that you classified pizza

510
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: as a vegetable for children. No, give them broccoli, you know,

511
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: like we we can pay in on those things. What

512
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: a privilege? And so I think that's what makes me

513
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: super excited about Generator and what you're doing is that

514
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: it's about storytelling. Like what a radical privilege it is

515
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: to be civically engaged, that's right. Human. We want to

516
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: humanize policy and make it like understandable and accessible, Like

517
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: how does policy affect us in the everyday life? It

518
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: feels like so up here and they make it seem

519
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: like it's like something we like wouldn't know anything about us,

520
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Like how could you possibly know about government? Yeah, And

521
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you're like decisions are affecting everyday lives

522
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: and we want to like explore what that looks like

523
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: and what that really means. So making a generator video

524
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: is like a two camera video looking into camera and speaking.

525
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: The thing is like say your name, where you are

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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: right now, something you love, just something you love, and

527
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: a policy in the way it's affecting you. And one

528
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: way can affect you is like mentally just to think

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00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: about like immigration policy, like I am not an immigrant,

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00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I was born in this country, but like the way

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00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: that immigrants are being treated on my behalf as an

532
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: American is like tripping me out and giving me anxiety

533
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: and depression. Like that's that. That is a perfectly fine

534
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: generator video of how policy is affecting you in your

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00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: everyday life. That's so cool. I'm really excited. But it's

536
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of things, and I hope to like narrow

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: it down and have a more succinct thing to say

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00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: in the future. Okay, So here we are in like

539
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: content creation, falling into like telling a story that you

540
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: want to tell, realizing as it's happening, like as the

541
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: snowball is moving down the mountain, you're like, oh, I'm

542
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: making this super feminist show. I didn't even know. I

543
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: was just having a conversation I wanted to have, which

544
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: is interesting, right, but like when women are in control

545
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: of their own conversations, they're like revolutionary and feminists. It's

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: like all right, because we so often don't have any

547
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: power in content and storytelling. Crazy. But I want to

548
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: take it back a little bit because I think so

549
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: many people who are listening are like, we've all love

550
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: broad today, Like great, but where does this begin? Because

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: I know, to your point the series began as a

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00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: web series. I know that there's a lot of improv

553
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: and UCB in your history. UCBS Upright Citizens Brigade. It's brilliant.

554
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: If you're lucky enough to liver in l Are, New York,

555
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: go to shows, support comedians, it's the ship. But like,

556
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: where does this begin? Because I also, as a person

557
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: who's like I know you just this week discovered that

558
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: there are videos on YouTube of a TV show you

559
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: made with your brother when you were a kid. I

560
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: was like, wait, you've literally been doing this for so long,

561
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Like who are you as a small child? Like how

562
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: does this happen? How does this like like precocious smart

563
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: storyteller come to be that's so funny and so cute

564
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: A TV carry TV, it's so cute. So the middle

565
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: class that doesn't exist anymore or whatever. But I grew

566
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 1: up like truly middle class on Long Island, and the

567
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: privilege of being close to New York City is not

568
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: lost on me. The proximity to New York to New

569
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: York City makes like possibilities seem more possible. There's just

570
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: access there and art available, and also like diversity available

571
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: where there wasn't on Long Island. Also, my parents are like,

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00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I just have a great family, you know. My parents

573
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: are awesome. Always talked to me and my brother like

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00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: our opinions and thoughts and ideas mattered, not like I'm

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00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty like strict babysitter or whatever, where I'm

576
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: like you tell a kid what to do because it

577
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: gives them For me, Like my vibe is like kids

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00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: need like direction and ship. I'm not like free whatever,

579
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, like what do you want to do next?

580
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: What do It's like? Do this, do this chore? Do this? Play?

581
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Go play with this thing? Like I'm not I'm not.

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00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: My parents weren't like freewheeling hippies at all. They had

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00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: these like subtle, subversive progressive expressions of progressive politics that

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: they totally didn't even realize they had which was like

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00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: my brother Elliott and I were like treated totally the same,

586
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: and he's four years older. Beyond being like a boy

587
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: and I'm a girl. He we were totally treated the same,

588
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: even for our age, you know. And also my mom.

589
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: We were like my mom, I would just like wear

590
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: what my brother wore. I would just wear his clothes.

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00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: Long Island is such a fucking weird place, and gender

592
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: is perverted into something very strange there where, like like

593
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: the most macho men look like gay porn stars on

594
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Long Island. Hot. Yeah, it could be if they were

595
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: gay porn stars, but being like angry police of machismo

596
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: is not hot interesting, So like that's like what I

597
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: grew up with. And like you know, I'm talking about

598
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: like barbed wire, like how Jersey Shore they look. They

599
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: look at those dudes, you know. And there's just like

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: a weird thing going on on Long Island. And amidst

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: all of that, my mom did not make me put

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00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: me in a box of like girly or anything. I

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00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: just like followed my brother around, so you did what

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00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: you wanted to do exactly and just was like a

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00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: normal kid who like played So Elliott and I were

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: each other's first comedy partners. And another thing is that,

607
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: like video cameras were such a big deal at the

608
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: time in the early nineties, and my dad was like, sure,

609
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: take it, yeah, go have fun, like rather than being

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00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: like it's dad's like my dad was never it's expensive.

611
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Touch Yeah, not like that at all. So we had

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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: like we just played for All we did was my content.

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00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: All we did was my content, very much like under

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Elliott's tutelage. And we had this like we had we

615
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: took it so seriously. We had carry PTV, which my

616
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: mom's dad used to make um like little sketches and

617
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: videotape them. Dave Dave Wexler. He was like hilarious and

618
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: like such a funny Now I'm like I see him

619
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: as like fluid. I'm like, oh dah um like funny

620
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: fluid O c D dude. So Elliott would like write

621
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: sketches and then put me in them. And we just

622
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: did this for years, probably from my age of six

623
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: if l was like ten two when I was he

624
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: was like maybe got stopped doing it when he was

625
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: like thirteen and I was nine. So yeah, for like

626
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: three or four years, we just made hundreds of hours

627
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: of content we in the time. In that time, there

628
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: was a like l O L a merger. We changed

629
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Speaker 1: our station from KRYPTV to g VS Laser Broadcasting System.

630
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Psychos literal psychos. Elliott was a just a little genius

631
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: and I was like really his muse, Like he was

632
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: just a little fucking genius. And he still just like

633
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: can produce so much content, like so quickly when he

634
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: gets in a flow, like he just is was always

635
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: like really smart and precocious in this way. It was

636
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: like a tiny pretty much like a tiny older gay man,

637
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: which like so was I at the time. Like there

638
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: was this averaging of like who we were and it

639
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: like became this comedy duo. Um, so we made comedy

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00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: and we were both like musical theater people and just

641
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: like not musical theater. No, Yeah, my parents would take us.

642
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: All we were interested in were like musicals and plays

643
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: and they would take us into see them. There was

644
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: this like kids night on Tuesday nights. If you if

645
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: you would slept into the city on a Tuesday night,

646
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: then kids go for free. So my mom would like, yeah,

647
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: so my mom got these like coupons that you know,

648
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: we would just whatever see Um. That was all we

649
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: were interested in. My dad's like an amazing jazz pianist.

650
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: My mom has awesome because I can't call my dad

651
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: a penis. My mom has awesome taste and it's just

652
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: very smart. And I was like super fucking lucky in

653
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: that way. And so that was like all we were into,

654
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: really like arts and just in plays. I'm literally like

655
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I think I've done like six versions of Fiddler on

656
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: the Roof. So we also grew up weirdly, like not

657
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: with Jews, but with Irish Italians, mostly Italians Eastern Long

658
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Island in the wake of white flight from like urban

659
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: to suburban, where white people were like the suburbs seem nice,

660
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: back to the feudal lord system, and now suburban people

661
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: are moving back into the city and suburbanizing the city,

662
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: like the Upper West Side. Is the suburbs condensed to

663
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, a few blocks vertical suburbs. Now, yes, it's

664
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: it's very and I see myself as part of the problem,

665
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: or I see I think I see very clearly like

666
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: where I fit into this, and it's like it's trippy,

667
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: you know. I'm always so interested too, in like the

668
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: overlap in those communities because my family is all Irish

669
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: and Italian Catholic. My dad is like fully agnostic, spiritual, immigrant,

670
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: sweet artist person. And then and the rest of my family,

671
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, aside from him, is all Jewish. And so

672
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: I grew up like Catholic mass, random church, temple on

673
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: all the high holidays like and I'm just like everybody

674
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: loves family and eating, like I'm down with all these people.

675
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: And it's interesting, I think here because because my mom's

676
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: whole family is like Jersey and New York, how much

677
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: those communities do really overlap. Yeah, there's there's a lot

678
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: of physical overlap that makes like cultural overlapin I love

679
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: about New York. So when you when you talk about

680
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: like being around other people who are Jewish and also

681
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: not and other religions, Like what did was was spirituality

682
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: part of your life? Is it? How it was? Like?

683
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: How it that? In form? It was more like a

684
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: cultural thing, Like I went to Hebrew school my home childhood,

685
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: and and I really actually liked Hebrew School, like even

686
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: like in studying for my bot Mitzvah, I was like

687
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: that was like where I would see my Jewish friends,

688
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: I guess like outside of school, like my friend Eden

689
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: is my best one of my best friends eating is Jewish,

690
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: but like she didn't practice, you know. So then to

691
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: go to Heubrew School, I was like, I do like

692
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: the rituals, and I don't know. That was like where

693
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: I would like hang with Jews and camp was more Jews.

694
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: But I didn't think of it as spirituality, I think

695
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: until I became an adult, and I'm like still working

696
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: out what that means for me, But I I really

697
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: do like Judaism. I'm like, it's cool. I like that

698
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like about questioning, and that actually feeds into a comedy,

699
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, um, which is about questioning.

700
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: It feels kind of cohesive to me. I always joked

701
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: that like all all the Jews and all the Catholics

702
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: in my family, me and we have double the anxiety

703
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: and twice the guilt all the time. Oh my god,

704
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: there's such neuroses. I grew up thinking that my guilt

705
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: was Jewish guilt, but now I realized it's Catholic guilt,

706
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: which is way worse. They don't let you fuck, you

707
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like and then it's like

708
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: doesn't even work, Like it's it's Catholic guilty as wild.

709
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: So like just fast forward. So we're like into the

710
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: arts and then my brother is like going to n

711
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: y U and I see that as a possibility for

712
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: myself and you Upright Citizens Brigade, which was a show

713
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: on Comedy Central. I grew up a totally a total

714
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: comedy nerd. Comedy Central was like my ship. I watched

715
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: like Strangers with Candy Upright Citizens Brigade, but also like

716
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: more like mainstream shows like Friends Seinfeld. I guess, like

717
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, in Loving Color, but I was

718
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: kind of too young to appreciate it. But like whatever,

719
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: living single, Golden Girls girlfriends, you know what I mean, Like,

720
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: oh my god, Golden Girls are so freaking funny. Can

721
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: we do that show when we get old? Like, can

722
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: you and I and like two other friends do Golden

723
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Girls like reboot? Oh my god. Yeah, I'm gonna just

724
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: put that out in the universe of a manifest to

725
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: that ship. Yeah, that's cool. And we're also like heads

726
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: in jars, like rolling around JK. So Eliot's like when

727
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: you come to the city, like literally plans when you

728
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: come to the city, we'll take classes together. Um, and

729
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: he was like I wanted to like wait for me

730
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: to like enter, and so when I did get to

731
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: the city, we entered the seen together and took classes

732
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: and did this sketch show, um high school talent show

733
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: for years at UCB. There's this ship New Yorkers say,

734
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: remember like um ship girls saying, and then everybody did

735
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: their version of it. I like did shift New Yorkers say,

736
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: that's like still on the internet. And Abby was at

737
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: and we did this improv group and I really was

738
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: like cast a wide net more for networking and just

739
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: like see what I like. So I did stand up,

740
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: sketch and improv. Improv was never I don't I don't

741
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: like doing improv. It's like so uncomfortable, and I see

742
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: it more as an exercise like therapy than for me

743
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: in art form because it's so unpleasant for me. It's

744
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: like torture. It's so hard. I mean, it's so fucking hard,

745
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: and there's like a bit of a formula that I'm like,

746
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. When I when we entered the scene

747
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: fourteen years ago, it was way more experimental than it

748
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: is now. And what we see now like mumblecore and

749
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: like awkwardness or whatever used to be alt and now

750
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: it's mainstream which is chill and good and cool, like

751
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even putting any emotion on it. It's just

752
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: what's happened. And I can't believe I'm old enough to

753
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: have seen something happen. It's really weird, right, you wake

754
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: up and suddenly you're like, I have perspective which comes

755
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: with age. How did this happen? Yeah, it's so weird.

756
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: So Abby and I were the only girls in this

757
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: improv group and she did this show. Elliot and I

758
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: had been doing shows that used to be The Sketch Show.

759
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: And Abby did this show with a partner who like

760
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: they got notes back, and the partner like didn't want

761
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: to was like, oh funck this, like we got notes,

762
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: like you know, it was so offended by the notes.

763
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, notes mean that they're like engaging,

764
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, if I were your partner, I

765
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: would be down and like go back, you know what

766
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's how I work. And she was

767
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: like right, like it's good to get notes and I

768
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: was like totally. And I was like, well, you know,

769
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking to do something, we could work together.

770
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: And she was like okay. So then we got together

771
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: and made this spreadsheet of all these ideas, and we

772
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: realized that like we had a difference and a meeting

773
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of our personalities that was interesting to

774
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: us and that provided attention that moved material forward that

775
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: kept was like well I would say this, and you

776
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: would say like I think this, and she she would

777
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, you know what I mean?

778
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, that's how you know? You know?

779
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: So we started like exploring our dynamic and we were like,

780
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: let's try this. And we made thirty five episodes in

781
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: two years by using the resources available, which was accessing

782
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: our community, seeing who wanted opportunity on a set, no

783
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: matter how amateur. How do you fund this? How does this?

784
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: We just worked some time jobs? And what else am

785
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I paying for it? You know, like I'm just budgeting

786
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: for I was paying seven fifteen dollars a month with

787
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: like two roommates. That was like my last that was

788
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: like the last time I had two roommates. I was

789
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: paying seven fifteen and it was like in total, like

790
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: whatever eight a month. This like apartment with three people

791
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: in it that was never not filled with soot because

792
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: of where we were, and go, honest, you know what

793
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: else are we paying for I was like, okay, I

794
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: had like student loans, but it was like to fifty

795
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: a quarter and my mom would like help me budget

796
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: shit out, you know, so I just we just work. Yeah,

797
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: totally made it work. And so we just worked full

798
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: time jobs and paid for our web series. And it

799
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: wasn't much, you know, Like the first season we were

800
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: like not paying people but paying for production. The second

801
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: season we were paying one hundred dollars to a director

802
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: slash editor, and we just like fucking made it work.

803
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: And the second season, there was like a big shift

804
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: in the second season speaking of raising consciousness where we

805
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: were we were like, holy sh it, this is a

806
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: mini TV show on the Internet, so let's treat it

807
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: like that and have a release date and have supplemental content.

808
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: So we'd have We had fifteen shorts, but eight of

809
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: the um were shot in one day and they were

810
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: face times, which we later did as digital content. UM

811
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: back into bread City for Comedy Central for the supplemental

812
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: content bridge content for the TV show. But we really

813
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: we like got smarter about it and like how to

814
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: pressured ourselves to do it every week. So if people

815
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: were expecting something on Tuesday's it's gonna it's gonna come

816
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: out on Tuesdays, and those deadlines and that self and

817
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: post pressure really did create momentum. And we were going

818
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: to pitch the show anyway. But then when we asked

819
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Amy Poehler, who was one of the four founders of

820
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: UCB too, be in our web series finale, and it

821
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: connected because it was like the school that we went

822
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: to her school, it made sense, and she was looking

823
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to produce more as she was like settled into Parks

824
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: and Wreck and it like all worked. We were thinking

825
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: about her producing, she was thinking about producing us. And

826
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: then when we had what we had already planned to pitch,

827
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: we were now pitching with Polar and obviously that made

828
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: all the difference. And that was in two thousand eleven

829
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: that we sold the pitch to f X and we

830
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: had like a year with them that was really helpful

831
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: and useful. But then they passed and we brought it

832
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: back to Comedy Central and they wanted it, and we

833
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: had a pilot script, so they we you know, it's like, well,

834
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: well you agree to make the pilot, like we're not

835
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: rewriting the script, like you just keep moving the deal forward.

836
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: I learned through this, so they made the pilot and

837
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: then I mean, it takes so fucking long. November twenty twelve,

838
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: we made the pilot, Lucia directed it, Lucia and Yellow,

839
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: and then in the March is when we heard that

840
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: we're going to series. And then suddenly it's like a

841
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: rush to to make the season, to write and go

842
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, and was the first season came out.

843
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: It is crazy how long it takes and how high

844
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: pressure fast it moves. All at the same time, you're

845
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: what's going on and why does it have to be

846
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: this way? But it just does. When it's happening, it's

847
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: happening rush, and it's how it goes. So I mean,

848
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: obviously it's the best show. I'm curious too, how you

849
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: guys settled into this, Like I mean, obviously hilarious and

850
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: like hyper realized in some senses, but like reality of

851
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: living in New York because I think about those classic

852
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: shows that we all grew up watching and like The

853
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Sign Fields and Friends and whatnot, and they're amazing. But

854
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: having had an apartment that I had two roommates in,

855
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: which was I don't know, six hundred square feet in

856
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: New York when I was twenty three. No, I would

857
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: watch those shows and go, where are these apartments supposed

858
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: to be? This is so crazy to me, but it

859
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: relates to me where it's like so nineties where white

860
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: people were like, we did it, We solved racism. Bill

861
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Clinton's the president, like all white people were like petting

862
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: themselves on the back of the nineties in a way

863
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: that that's what New York looked like on TV. Like

864
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: it's just not real and nobody is as hot as

865
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the six Friends were and it hurt, you know what

866
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean. I would watch and be like, I like

867
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: want to be them, I want to be in them,

868
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: like who It's just not real? And like with the Internet,

869
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: broad City is like a perfect fucking cultural cornerstone of

870
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: how the culture is moving, which is towards democratized content

871
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: that reflects real life more. And it's it's also it

872
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: was so fucking cheap. We made it with like a

873
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: few thousand dollars um, you know, and that's I think

874
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: we're just like a perfect example of how content is

875
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: moving and that the future is female. It's so cool

876
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: and it's interesting too because I sit here and I go, God,

877
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I should make more things, Like I should be less

878
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: intimidated to just do that because so much ship is

879
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: so bad, and so much ship is so bad. Content

880
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: is terror trash, and like people are just happy to

881
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: just have something something to chill with. Two. Like I'm

882
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: not even saying it's bad and it's bad for the world.

883
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: It's just not good, you know what I mean. The

884
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: quality of the content is not good or high production value,

885
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: but the writing is terrible and you definitely should be

886
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: less intimidated because it is so bad. So how did you,

887
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: guys sort of wrangle this experience as these two co

888
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: creators and you're working obviously with paulin Nuccia and the

889
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: four of you are writing this amazing show. How do

890
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: you manage it? How do you figure out what stories

891
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: you want to tell? How do you create these characters?

892
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: Because it's you and Abby but also you guys have

893
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: talked about how it is you, but it isn't you

894
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: and things are exaggerated, and how do you straddle all

895
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: these lines messily? And it not smoothly? You know, you

896
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: just do it and say yeah, and it's embarrassing, like

897
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: to not do Ship well. Like the first season we

898
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: always laugh. I was like secretly but like not so secretly,

899
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: because you can tell I was like smoking cigarettes in

900
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: the stairwell because I was losing my mind and couldn't

901
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: smoke wheat during the day. It was just like I

902
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: needed some ritual that represented stress relief. Um just like

903
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: grotesquely is how we did it. Just grotesquely, and with

904
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: therapy helps partnership in friendships and with in romantic relationships,

905
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: helps you know, so that you keep That's kind of

906
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: the thing I guess is like to keep living real

907
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: life while you're creating a captured, manipulated, not real version

908
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: of life, so that you keep Like so we would

909
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: keep developing our identities as we were creating this like

910
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: alternate reality. Like I could not do another season of

911
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: broad City if you begged me. It's one of the

912
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: best shows on TV. It's so freaking funny, so smart,

913
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: so sincere, so real, so vulnerable. I love that you

914
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: own that, so it's not encouraged to do that. It

915
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: sucks that City wasn't nominated for an Emmy. I really

916
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: wish that we were recognized in this way. And like, yes,

917
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: it's because Abby and I are like record breaking lee

918
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: young showrunners, writers, creators, producers, stars like I am so

919
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: proud of us, and I'm like, we should totally be recognized.

920
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Desk bullshit, I'm calling that out, but in a in

921
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: a bigger, like heavier way, I'm really disappointed that our

922
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: audience wasn't recognized. You know. It's like, okay, Broad City,

923
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: we made a web series. We wanted to make this

924
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: show no matter what, you know, if people watched or not.

925
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: But people did watch really like important smart self selected

926
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: people kind of like chosen people, um, who were on

927
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: top of the ship enough, like had their finger on

928
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: the pulse enough that they knew about the show. And

929
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: the show shifted the culture one hundred percent. Like I

930
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: love it, you know what I mean? But I like

931
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: lost where I was going. Was that like fake life?

932
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: Is that like how you stabilize? And I'm curious how

933
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: how much of the characters were an exaggeration? How do

934
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: you toggle between yourself and these characters? And then to

935
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: your point, like, yeah, how when you're making this TV

936
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: show do you like date? How do you have a life?

937
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. That's That's what I was saying,

938
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: was like you couldn't beg me as much as I

939
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: love Broad City, as much as I know it helps

940
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: people because they fucking tell us I couldn't do another season,

941
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: and neither could A be because it's so it's painful

942
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: to like be this other person, you know what I mean,

943
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: And like we didn't want to trap ourselves in real life.

944
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: Life is precious, Life is long and life is short.

945
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: It's like we needed more time to live real life,

946
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, and like spreading it among like different projects

947
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: that maybe aren't as like densely capturing our real life

948
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: character gives more time for real life. And yeah, I

949
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: just love the show, love the experience, and it's a

950
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: completely life defining experience. But it's it's so hard to

951
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: have the time to feed yourself as a real person

952
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: when you are feeding these characters and these alternate versions

953
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: of yourselves. So that like raising consciousness and learning about

954
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: yourself and learning about the world is so important to

955
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: me as an artist, because like that's what I want

956
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: to do as an artists, like mark history in this

957
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: moment of like what people are feeling right now. But

958
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: you have to be a person in the world to

959
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: do that, Yes, otherwise you lose the relation to the world,

960
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: which then allows you to tell the story. It's like

961
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: you lose. It's like losing your words, losing your language

962
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: when you don't have enough of a life to then

963
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: tell a story about living people. It's it's like all

964
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: of the words fall out of your mouth. Yeah. And

965
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: it's like I'm just like thinking about Beyonce right now,

966
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: as I often do, and it's like she she is

967
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: marking her history as an icon. She's like bigger than

968
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. She's bigger than any it's not like about

969
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: gender or race, like Beyonce is Beyonce, And like she

970
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to live real life to mark his straight

971
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: right now, Like marking history of her life is what

972
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: the world needs from her, right So, like my like

973
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: as a comedian and as like whatever type of artists

974
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: I am, I have to make more space for my

975
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: real life and her real life. It's like jumping off

976
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: like the second floor of a yacht, and I'm like,

977
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I want me on side to do that. Like it

978
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: it's important that she does. Yeah, she needs to have

979
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: a life within the constraints of life she lives. Yeah,

980
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: And like and like it's kind of about like seeing

981
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: who you are as an artist and you know for

982
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: a long like Abby went to art school and knows

983
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: about art history and gave me the agency to see

984
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: what I do as art and like taught me about

985
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: like art and like how to look at art. Sorry. Yeah,

986
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: And she just takes in a lot and she like

987
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: consumes it and buys it, and she like knows like

988
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: cool artists on Instagram. Like she just tapped into that.

989
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: She's into outsider artists, artists with disabilities who make art

990
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: and like it's the coolest art. And I didn't even

991
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: see myself as an artist before. I was like a comedian.

992
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: And now I'm like art is really fucking important and

993
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: there's a purpose that artists have to serve. It's so

994
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: interesting that you say that. I feel like this last

995
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: year or two especially, I'm coming to terms with that

996
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I always I realized that I always would shrug off

997
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: talking about what I do. And I don't know why

998
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: we haven't been allowed to really relish in the importance

999
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: of art and communication and conversation and storytelling. These things matter,

1000
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: and and part of it is like as women, we

1001
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: haven't been encouraged. Yes, but also it's just hard to say,

1002
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: like I'm an artist, you know, like even and like again,

1003
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: this thing about like the what man, Like, it's not

1004
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: about like the individuals, it's about the system. But the

1005
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: system has like only afforded certain types of looking people

1006
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: to be able to say, I'm an artist in my

1007
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: art's important. Yeah, what a fucking interesting time. And I

1008
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: can't tell if it's a continuation of things that have

1009
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: always been, which it clearly is, but it also feels different.

1010
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: And I really think it's because we are beating the simulation. Yeah,

1011
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: this conversation is crazy, and like it's like what you

1012
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: and I were talking about on set, or like, you know,

1013
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: taking a walk that day was so nice. Taking a

1014
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: walk in williames just like walking around and we're like

1015
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: getting so but the fact that it's not dangerous, and yes,

1016
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: it's because we're white women, and yes it's because we

1017
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: have privileged but also like the fact that this isn't

1018
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: dangerous to record and to put out on our platforms.

1019
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: Is it's a fucking new day. It really is, Yes,

1020
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: because it was thought of his dangerous. I remember in

1021
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: my twenties starting to get very publicly political. I'd always

1022
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: been political, and I was so kind of like traumatized

1023
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: by beginning to get famous at twenty one. It was

1024
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: like so scary, and so I really retreated from public

1025
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: spaces and then realized that when I wasn't participating in

1026
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: social media, what actually was happening is that other people's

1027
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: treatment of me was silencing my voice. And I was like, oh,

1028
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: funk this ship. And then I got hard were in it,

1029
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: and I remember when I started getting super super politically frank,

1030
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: and people were like, you can't do this, this will

1031
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: ruin your career, and I thought, if I don't do this,

1032
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't deserve to have a career, Like, what's the point.

1033
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: When was that I agree about that? UM? And also

1034
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: what was the internet happening at that time? It was Twitter,

1035
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't Instagram. And I got on Twitter because Deepwater

1036
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Horizon happened. I'd lived in New Orleans for a summer

1037
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: working on a film. I love Louisiana. I feel I

1038
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: don't know why. I like there's something about being there

1039
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: that always feels like going home and I don't know

1040
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: if that's past life ship or what. But I got

1041
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: a call to um really incredible environmental activists that I

1042
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: had been working with via this organization called Global Green

1043
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: for many many years at this point, to environmental attorneys

1044
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: who live in Louisiana. Were like, it's really bad, and

1045
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: everything on the news is a lie, Like it's martial

1046
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: law down here, Like we're allowing the murderer to clean

1047
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: up the crime scene, and like what they're doing to people,

1048
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: what they're doing to communities of color, Like they're busting

1049
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: in like young men from the poorest communities of color

1050
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: in rural areas of Louisiana, and not allowing them to

1051
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: wear respirators because the photos of them doing the speech

1052
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: clean up look bad with respirators, and like they're all

1053
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: going to have cancer, Like they're breathing carcinogenic toxins, like

1054
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: alarm bells go off when the toxicity is too high

1055
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: and people have to evacuate the area, and they're not

1056
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: letting them wear masks. And I was like, funk this.

1057
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: And I flew down there and literally signed up for

1058
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: a Twitter account that week and started essentially like citizen

1059
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: journalist broadcasting from the space. And you know, there were

1060
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: sheriffs threatening to arrest and strip search us because we

1061
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: were filming, And luckily we had two attorneys with us

1062
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: who were quoting law saying, these are the reasons you

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: can't do this, These are the reasons it's legal for

1064
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: us to film, but the police, the oil people were

1065
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: working in cohort to try to deny access to us

1066
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: to see what was going on. And in that moment

1067
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I realized, like it was crazy and and you know,

1068
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: by the end of the following week, I was like

1069
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: satellite interviewing the news stations. And in that moment, I thought, oh,

1070
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: everything in my life led me here. All of my

1071
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: activism as a kid, all of my sort of like

1072
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: bleeding heart. Now I'm doing air quotes, stuff that people

1073
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: would talk about when I was young, my journalism degree,

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00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: all of it. Like this is why I'm here as

1075
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: a storyteller and as a person who's passionate about the truth,

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00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: which is what artists for is telling the truth. This,

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: this is it, And like that that was the beginning,

1078
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: and like you know, now it's like I consider, like

1079
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: I use my Instagram like a news station and I

1080
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: love it. But yeah, it's it's like a new day

1081
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: where we have the opportunities to do this, and I

1082
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: was told it would be dangerous, and you know, in

1083
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: my estimation, I'm like, look at Gloria Steinham, no, she look,

1084
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: we have a responsibility to do this, and so yeah,

1085
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: I love it. So something I'm so excited about. We've

1086
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: talked about our movie, the way that you chose to

1087
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: to write this film and this sort of musing on

1088
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: the patriarchy and on white women and on societal pressure

1089
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: and all of these things. When you were like, I

1090
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: need you to essentially play an undercover agent for the patriarchy,

1091
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is going to be horrible

1092
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: and delicious and it was so fun. So I'm curious

1093
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: about the inspiration for that. And then you went straight

1094
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: from our movie to your comedy tour and the Planet

1095
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: is Burning, which is your tour, is a special about

1096
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: to be a huge special on Amazon. I want to

1097
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: know about that. I want I want like the people

1098
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: to tune into the things that you're doing. I appreciate that. Okay.

1099
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: So False Positive is this movie that I wrote with

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: John Lee, who directed it, and I um started it

1101
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: and it started as is like bizarre. John had this

1102
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: script that was like a bizarre, sort of like seventy

1103
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: page we now call it like a tone poem. It

1104
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like a fever dream poem about this

1105
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: woman and about pregnancy. I heard about it from him

1106
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: and John created Wonder Shows in this show years ago

1107
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: that was on MTV and like MTVu, and it was

1108
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: so trippy and I was in college like watching it.

1109
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: It was so trippy that years later when we were

1110
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: in prep for the first season in broad City and

1111
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: someone suggested John Lee and he came in was like,

1112
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: I did this show Wonder Shows, and I was like, bro,

1113
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: I fucking know about Wonder Shows. And I was obsessed

1114
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: with it. It was like doing a drug watching this show.

1115
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: But I was also stoned, so it was like very

1116
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: very trippy. So it was like pop seption. Yeah, you

1117
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: were like stoned and stoned. It was nuts. It's a

1118
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: crazy show. And also yeah, you like kind of have

1119
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: to have the stomach for it. It was so like

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: so anarchist and and fucky. So years later where he

1121
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: directed this episode of broad City, the finale of season three,

1122
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: Jews on a Plane, And I had been asking him

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01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: about that weird script just like once every six months

1124
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: for about a year and a half, and then I

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: think the third time that I was like, come on,

1126
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: can I have it. Let's do Let's do something with it.

1127
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: He was like, Okay, let's do it. So we took

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Speaker 1: this script to and made it into a feature script.

1129
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: Like a feature script is typically twenty pages, and like

1130
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: Ship's getting shorter and shorter, but there's a specific certain

1131
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: storytelling notes you have to hit in the future. And

1132
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: we were like, let's do it where we make this

1133
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: character some version of a hero, no matter how like

1134
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: funked up. That is the our version of it is.

1135
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: And it's crazy. It was a really awesome experience writing

1136
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: it and then writing it with is really um good

1137
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: at making art and they give great notes, and it

1138
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: was I don't know, like I only earned by doing.

1139
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't go to school, haven't gone to school for shure,

1140
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school for TV and film, So

1141
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: I like have only learned by doing. And it was

1142
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: a great education and I am excited for the next thing.

1143
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, when John and I started like blowing it

1144
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,479
Speaker 1: out into this feature script, we realized, like what themes

1145
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: we wanted to hit specifically this like white woman Trump voter,

1146
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: who was like, you know, going to be on everyone's

1147
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: minds the next eighteen months. And it's sucked up and

1148
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: it's like a thriller horror movie. And where it is

1149
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: right now, it's still in the edit it's we're still

1150
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: like finding what this film is. It is weird, it

1151
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: is out there, and it was really fun, and we

1152
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: have Justin Thurreau plays my husband and Pierce Brawson plays

1153
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: this doctor, and it is so wild to ask these

1154
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: white men to be undercover agents for the matriarchy in

1155
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: real life or whatever the fun you want to call

1156
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: the New World partnership culture, because like, it's scary. It

1157
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: must have been scary for them, and I actually know

1158
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: that it was because they're playing like just is playing

1159
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: this it's bizarre, like the nervous, the feeling of watching

1160
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: this film. I just watched the last cut with my

1161
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: husband and we were cracking up, but we were also like,

1162
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: like the tone that we're striking is so weird. It's

1163
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: interesting also to have the privilege to like make a movie,

1164
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: shoot it, and then look at take a step back,

1165
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: look at it and be like, what do we still

1166
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: need experience. I've never had like a reshoot because you

1167
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: don't get to do that in TV, not certainly not

1168
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: for Comedy Central. You know, like there's just no no

1169
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: fucking way. Money was not like flowing from like Comedy

1170
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: Central to the production company to us, Like it just

1171
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen I've never had that privilege and to

1172
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: have it now is really cool. Um filming it was

1173
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: so hard. It's so weird, like I've never because I've

1174
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: acted as a lot of Wexler. It's been like this

1175
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: exercise of like the real me versus a caricature of

1176
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: me false positive was so painful, Like I didn't realize

1177
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: how physy a lot. It's a physiological exercise acting where

1178
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: you let your body, your physical form, be this vessel.

1179
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: First story. It was so hard to be like an

1180
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: oppressed bitch like I kept woman like sucked for twenty

1181
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: two days. I was like this sucks. It like hurt

1182
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: my body, and also I was like giving birth and

1183
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: like whatever. But also just to be acting with Justin

1184
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: and Pierce, like with you, it was different where it's

1185
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: like I've felt that with a girl where I'm like,

1186
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, just so British is so cool, like

1187
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: I can relate to our scenes, the ones with Justin

1188
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: like it was so weird. We were cracking up because

1189
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: we had nervous giggles that I think the viewer is

1190
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: going to have watching. And with Pierced too, it was

1191
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: like they were just these like cringing moments where we'd

1192
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: cut and be like, you know, like it was so

1193
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: fucking weird. What a trip, Okay, But the comedy tour

1194
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: and special. I can't believe this year that I've had.

1195
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, as I was telling you before we started recording,

1196
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm like wrapping my fucking mind around the ship. I

1197
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: went on tour and my production company Star Picks with Kelsey,

1198
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: Kylie and non Them Guabba, whom are my producers who

1199
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: are producers on the special. Also tour managed the tour

1200
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: like women are amazing, and like people are amazing and

1201
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: can do anything, but like women are amazing and they

1202
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: like tour managed this tour, this two week tour. It

1203
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: it's sold out very quickly. I gotta say, like, this

1204
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: sold out tour just was dope and a great way

1205
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: to lead to this special. It's a crazy experience to

1206
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: make a one hour stand up special. And I've been

1207
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: working on this material for a while. And when I

1208
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: did Broad City, I did not have the time to

1209
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: do stand up, especially when it started. But when Abby

1210
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 1: was making her book, carry this book, she was had

1211
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: to go home at seven pm every day and make

1212
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: this book. So I was like, I have this time

1213
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: that I've never had before because we've been in the

1214
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: room until eleven pm for three seasons. So I'm gonna

1215
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: renderstand up because I miss stand up so much and

1216
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: discipline you guys both were exercising is fascinating to me.

1217
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: We're fucking nuts right now. I'm obsessed with you. But

1218
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: like I go home and I'm like, I want to

1219
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: watch Like at the time you were doing this, I

1220
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: was like going home and being like I want to

1221
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: watch it from black like but dude, also that you

1222
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: did this, I appreciate it. And the other day, like

1223
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: my husband David was like like napping and I was

1224
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: like giving notes in my stand up special and he's like,

1225
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: you're a freak because you're so productive, and I am

1226
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: a freak. Like I'm a freak and it's really really

1227
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: good to just watch The Great British Baking Shower or whatever.

1228
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes like it is so I miss out on real

1229
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: life in that way where people are like, yeah, like

1230
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: Netflix and chill, and I'm like what, I'm like Netflix

1231
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: and practivity. It's like weird and I have like natural

1232
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: riddle and inside of me and it's bizarre. It's it's weird,

1233
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: so then I went back into stand up and I

1234
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: do just have to mention that with the help of

1235
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: my of my friends who were in the room, Kevin

1236
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: Burnett who passed away this year, who I just have

1237
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: to say bird Luca forever, because he really was instrumental

1238
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: in me getting back into stand up and his writing

1239
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: partner Josh you know, Abby would go go home and

1240
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: make this book and we would like talk about stand

1241
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: up and go do shows together, or they would like

1242
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: it it's hard, you know what I mean, Like I'm

1243
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: still terrified and like I still feel like a loser

1244
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, even though I just made this special, you know,

1245
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh God, when I get back into

1246
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: it in September and like it's going to be hard

1247
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. But their instrumental in getting me back in.

1248
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. So the tour was great. I brought alson

1249
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: Liby and other producer pdd Abrew another producer, and it

1250
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: was such a fucking cool experience and it was terrippy

1251
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: and the special it's just like you're like in a

1252
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: new place and the people there know you. And we

1253
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: went to blue dots and red states and like the

1254
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: thirst for progressive politics something that we talked about in

1255
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: Generator is human rights politics. It's just about common sense

1256
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: and like, just like the difference between right and wrong,

1257
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: it's it's not it shouldn't be red and blue. It's

1258
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: like right and wrong. Yeah, and there is no fucking

1259
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: red and there is no fucking blue. Because some people

1260
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: who believe that every person's life is worth living and

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: that people shouldn't be made to suffer because they're born

1262
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: in a certain place. Some of those people like to

1263
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: live in the woods in a cabin, you what I mean,

1264
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't always look like a New Yorker or

1265
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: a Hollywood person or whatever, and like Hollywood's not progressive.

1266
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: I like rag the funk on Mel Gibson in my

1267
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: special for a couple of minutes, and it's like, Hollywood's

1268
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: not progressive. Like mel Gibson has eight movies in production

1269
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: this year. Hollywood is not progressive. It's a break Yeah,

1270
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: it's it's not. It's run by the patriarchy. So I

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Speaker 1: think False Positive is going to come out early UM,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited. I'm really excited for um post broad

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Speaker 1: City life. It's crazy to not have like the eleven

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Speaker 1: months schedule ahead of me. Abby and I are like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing? And you're like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Man, I'm like busy, but I'm not. Man. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's so cool. I can't wait for all

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Speaker 1: of that to come. I can't wait until we figure

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Speaker 1: out what we get to do next, because I need

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Speaker 1: to do another job with you, because it's fun. I

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Speaker 1: would love that. I would be of course, I've got ideas.

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Speaker 1: I didn't girl. Yeah, I know, I know, because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: have you seen this random documentary on Netflix? And you're

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Speaker 1: like no, But I wrote one. I'm like, cool, cool, tight,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I ask everybody who comes in here,

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Speaker 1: because I think the reality is that, like any person

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Speaker 1: who the world respects, admires, like thinks has it all

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Speaker 1: figured out, is still just like trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious right now and you are on such

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Speaker 1: a precipice of a new experience. Um, what in your

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: life right now feels like a work in progress to you?

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Speaker 1: My boundaries feel like a work in progress. My boundaries

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: between not working and working is a work in progress

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Speaker 1: that I need to put more time into figuring out

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01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: my boundaries as my relationships shift. Like it's not just

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Speaker 1: being abby. There are so many people involved in broad

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Speaker 1: City and so many people like close friends, who's you know,

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Speaker 1: who I've seen based on my broad City calendar. Like

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Speaker 1: just boundaries are shifting in my life and my relationships,

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Speaker 1: and I I need to learn how to give like

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Speaker 1: feedback to people and not just be like cool, cool,

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Speaker 1: got it and like running away. Like I need better

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Speaker 1: boundaries and that's a work in progress for me defining

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Speaker 1: what those are. Yeah, That's where I'm at right now.

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Speaker 1: I like that I said a boundary for myself that

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Speaker 1: became really helpful in public. I like made a hard

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Speaker 1: rule that if and this happened to us the other day,

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Speaker 1: that like, if someone comes up to the table where

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Speaker 1: I am eating, I will not get up until the

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Speaker 1: meal is over because people will run over and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up, like and cool, Like most people are lovely.

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Speaker 1: Some people are super creepy, as you know, like people

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Speaker 1: who touch me. I'm like, literally, if you touch me,

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Speaker 1: I'll break your face. But I feel I do not

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Speaker 1: know you, sir. But the I realized that what I

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Speaker 1: needed to do for myself was create permission to go, oh,

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Speaker 1: if you're still here when we finish our meal, I'd

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Speaker 1: be more than happy to goode, to can picture with

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Speaker 1: you whatever, And that became a boundary. And weirdly, setting

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Speaker 1: one boundary and going oh, that's nice, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: your body stops being your friend if you don't listen

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Speaker 1: to it. It's like you don't have friends who you

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Speaker 1: ignore all the time. Like if someone ignores you all

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Speaker 1: the time, you stop calling them. So setting a boundary

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Speaker 1: weirdly made my body go, oh, your trustworthy. And then

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Speaker 1: when I would need to set a boundary, it's almost

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Speaker 1: like I would hear my body be like, we don't

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Speaker 1: like that, and I'd go, oh, okay, I'm gonna set

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Speaker 1: a new boundary, and it's like one. It's such a

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Speaker 1: stupid little thing, but it started shifting. My capacity is

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Speaker 1: set boundaries in every other arena of my life. So

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Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth, like it could be something so

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Speaker 1: minute that could like open the door, it's worth a lot.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you for sharing. Thats gotta be

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Speaker 1: friends with our bods. H it's thanks for coming, miss

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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me. So good to see you.

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Speaker 1: This show is executive produced by me Sophia Bush and

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Speaker 1: sim Sarna Our supervising producer is Alison Bresnick, Our associate

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Speaker 1: producer is Kate Linley, Our editor is Josh Wendish, and

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Speaker 1: our music was written by Jack Garrett and produced by

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Speaker 1: Mark Foster. This show is brought to you by Brilliant

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