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Speaker 1: All right, we're back another episode of Club five to

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Speaker 1: twenty Podcasts. I'm the host, Miss DJ Wells. We got

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Speaker 1: a legend, legend, legend, legend, and to build a class

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Speaker 1: at seven crazy how it all lined up. We're here

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Speaker 1: for a reason. We're gonna introduce him last though. To

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Speaker 1: my far left, we got my dog Bis should be

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Speaker 1: hearing out the prail LEAs how you are nasty.

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Speaker 4: Cool and nasty. Baby. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: You got your one PTO that year.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you shot out to b Swift legend holding

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Speaker 1: it down for forty two.

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Speaker 2: Dug my dog here, but I'm glad you pulled back

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Speaker 2: up to work. My boy.

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Speaker 4: I'm back, I'm bag. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Brod were always know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been a lot of places, especially you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from the shot those shoes over here,

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Speaker 1: you see the black forces with the white licens. When

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Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying. You the crib and

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Speaker 1: you see those what's the first thing to come to

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Speaker 1: your mind?

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Speaker 2: I'll show you Jack jacking something.

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Speaker 4: Watch out, bro, I don't steal, I heal your wallet.

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Speaker 2: The white laces is crazy, So you'll call me a skamer.

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Speaker 2: You said you showing it? You alrea'y talking about the nagery.

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Speaker 2: You might might be a lineage on It's about right

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Speaker 2: my dog young not show young.

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Speaker 1: Tig how you are man, I'm chilling, man, I'm geeked.

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Speaker 1: Know how I feel about O seven and now we

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Speaker 1: got my dog in the building. It's about to be

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Speaker 1: a great Now. I'm gonna let you do the honest introducing.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, listen, it's very rarely to everybody. We

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Speaker 1: had that one person on our list, you know when

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Speaker 1: we start this podcast, like who we wanted on this show?

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Speaker 1: It was this man right here, legend our con youngest

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Speaker 1: m v P wanted the best to do it.

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Speaker 2: Your favorite Hooper's favorite Hooper. We got d Rose, Derrick

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you pulling up, big dogs, love man, man have

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Speaker 5: to pull up Midwest ship.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Like I said, but we all be fanned out

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Speaker 1: different souff. But when we found out that shot rock

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Speaker 1: about for real, for real bro.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course me, my son and my team, uh

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Speaker 5: Random and Maddie. They told me about it to the squad.

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Speaker 5: Of course, right when the idea came up, I had

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Speaker 5: to pull up. And with it being so close to Chicago,

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Speaker 5: so the.

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Speaker 4: Niggas got your cater bro listen door days to beat up.

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Speaker 1: I usual, I'll usually holder somebody some but we was like,

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Speaker 1: freaking I told you, boy, you might be a cater

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Speaker 1: first boy fall shout to chef. Y'all went crazy for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Man, I gotta say some before we really start.

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Speaker 1: But my dog Mike, Mike is our guy behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: But they know freaking Mike the podcast. He told me

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Speaker 1: I don't get excited about too many that's bro.

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Speaker 2: I said, what freak might put on the whole outfit

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Speaker 6: He put the freshoes on.

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Speaker 2: He lent you're different. I respect them. You can't even

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Speaker 2: say that, niggas some rolls.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to freaking Miif for hold it down. Man,

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Speaker 1: But listen, man, we are honored that you were here.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: Man, we just got to start with it. My heart

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Speaker 2: felt over.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy, man, I want to say, Man, shout

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Speaker 1: out to you and the team.

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Speaker 1: One of the best rollosts I have ever seen. Wow

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Speaker 1: for rel Fred, just the way that she went through everything.

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Speaker 1: And we were joking with Tig about this. We were

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody have a unybody what what like? No, that's

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Speaker 2: I was nervous at the card.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy because the week before I have bought

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh so it was love bro.

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Speaker 5: Me and my team we decided to like just come

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Speaker 5: up with something different, you know, like, uh, we did

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Speaker 5: that within like two weeks, randoming Maddie, numerous around Maddie, uh,

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Speaker 5: standing up late, going over ship to the day before,

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Speaker 5: your t's. But this whole ship was about like just

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Speaker 5: giving back or just flipping everything on his head, where

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Speaker 5: normally when you do do something like this, uh, you

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Speaker 5: receive the flowers. But I didn't get here by myself,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I got here with Rando.

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Speaker 5: I've been knowing him since sixth grade. I've been a

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Speaker 5: it's the same thing. It's sixth grade and that's something

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Speaker 5: that we built. We're building the empire right now, but

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Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate that. I know, you know, for you

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Speaker 1: you can speak on this you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Class all seven, you know what I'm saying. Career, You

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Speaker 1: know this time? How was that? Like that moment you

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Speaker 1: was like all right, you know, I'm gonna see what

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Speaker 1: retirement was a little different. It was kind of because

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Speaker 1: you know you were done playing? Like what made you

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Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I'm gonna hang it up? Because I

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Speaker 1: feel like, to me watching you annoying you, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: he could play forever. I just think you had that ability.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, what made you want to hang

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Speaker 5: Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bro.

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Speaker 5: But well I was just telling you in the room,

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Speaker 5: me your all to your kids. Like my younger kids,

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Speaker 5: they don't mention the game at all. They don't say

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Speaker 5: they don't ask about are we going to the game?

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Speaker 5: They don't say nothing.

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Speaker 2: So with PJ, I have to talk to him a

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Speaker 5: So before I even talked to everybody we in the room,

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Speaker 5: think he got better? He was like, he's working out

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Speaker 5: Like his dad president. I'm like, you think Melloon't got

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Speaker 5: You're the only one that's going through that shit, bro,

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Speaker 5: Like nobody else, your family members, nobody else's staff, nobody

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Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, give him all Like

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Speaker 5: it's cool, But I want to be able to elevate too,

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Speaker 5: show growth. And that's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 5: real broact And like you said, like that the influence,

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Speaker 2: It does make a difference.

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Speaker 1: No facts for facts, But I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we clarify that, like you decided to retire, not

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Speaker 1: that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you won't

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Speaker 5: I mean even with that, I really didn't want to

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Speaker 5: That's just the process of them trying to, I guess,

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Speaker 5: do business or figure out the numbers on the back end,

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Speaker 5: out to Zach Pryor, I reached out to my team,

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Speaker 5: reached out to everyone prior and told them, reached out

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Speaker 5: to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, listen, man, we're gonna talk about the career we

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about that. I'll be waiting for this.

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Speaker 1: Quick thirty listen first time man right it before I

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Speaker 4: No word, get that.

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Speaker 6: Get to that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. We get to that. But I

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Speaker 1: He played for a team called Ferrari and it was

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Speaker 2: This dude nice? But you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like,

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Speaker 2: who that? And your name?

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Speaker 1: Like your name sound fake like Derrick Rose, Like you

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Speaker 2: I was like, he called, like they call him the

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Speaker 1: So we go to the game, y'all happened to be

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Speaker 1: Magic boom. You remember that, right, Memphis Magic.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I remember that. I do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw

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Speaker 1: Mae Miller. Yeah there, Yes, he had a good game.

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Speaker 1: He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that nigga different, like this nigga killing,

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Speaker 1: Ye you know, my dad, yo, can be reading about him.

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Speaker 1: He ain't supposed to be on this team. He was like, he, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know me, he older, gave you to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? They like? Yo? You you

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Speaker 4: What the happy belated too? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 5: About Mike Bru and USA, we played sixteen or seventeen USA. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he my roommate his he. I had to look at

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Speaker 2: Bro. He was younger. Who younger than us?

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Speaker 2: Cold Bro, I'm like you this cold shout out to

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Speaker 1: That's when I first met he played for I'm not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but my first time I played against you. So

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Speaker 5: we had tone sticking you and you had braids.

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Speaker 2: Then you have.

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Speaker 5: Gone thirty Bro and tone our coach he uh tone

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Speaker 2: So we're like, Bro, this whole.

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Speaker 5: Game, Jeff wining them out, Bro, hitting the three step

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Speaker 2: All that, Bruh.

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Speaker 5: By the end, did we beat We ended up beating him,

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Speaker 5: but he had a great game, and I'm like, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I got a watch, dude.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 5: But at our in our class, when you ran up

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Speaker 5: you in a way though, Bro, When like I was

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Speaker 5: when we were talking the room about o Ja, yes sir,

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Speaker 5: the old nigga, you put that bathroom in my back

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Speaker 5: for sure, Juice. Juice for shown.

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Speaker 2: That nigga was different.

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Speaker 5: I'll never forget when y'all got to because we went

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Speaker 5: got hurt.

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Speaker 2: But the magic, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget ship ship the matchup with y'all. But I'm

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Speaker 2: I see you. I'm like, Oh, they don't know this

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Speaker 2: nigga about to kill that nigga. So I'm like rooting.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you,

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Speaker 1: but I'm rooting for you, like kill him if you

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Speaker 1: Then I see y'all in Vegas, I'm like, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: nigga ain't scared. Niggas tripping. They was going at it, bro,

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Speaker 1: They was having a game. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: best games I seen him at Eric against O J

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Speaker 2: That shit's crazy. We chased him, bro.

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Speaker 5: We used to go to tournaments looking for him, like

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Speaker 5: whole chapter of My ship. Chasing him going to tournaments,

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Speaker 5: stay in the game. But it's really it's us too,

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Speaker 5: on that too, nigga, Like like we we wanted that matchup,

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Speaker 5: especially since we played them like in seven and eight

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Speaker 5: but that Tyrek and all them was it was in

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Speaker 5: and that Vegas one that we and we had e

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Speaker 5: J I'm like, come on, like I was playing. I

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Speaker 5: like the alarms and ship was going on that ship

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Speaker 5: was nuts.

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Speaker 1: But it was crazy, he said. We talked about we

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Speaker 4: How'd you feel about him with joint team? Would you like?

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Speaker 4: I love my niggas, But.

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Speaker 5: Like we played, I played on the team with full

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Speaker 5: needed that because I was scoring my brother. In high school,

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Speaker 5: I played more organized ship. I was playing the three

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Speaker 5: he had that.

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Speaker 2: He was the point that push you to the three. Junia.

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Speaker 5: We had like a system. So like even when I

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Speaker 5: like we you're gonna listen, you're gonna buy by the rules.

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Speaker 5: You you ain't bigger than the system. And I went

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Speaker 5: so I'm like, all right, this like it's love we

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Speaker 2: Anyway, if y'all put it when we.

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Speaker 5: Used to practice, and shit, that's how we felt. So

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Speaker 5: it was all love. But the system was the big

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Speaker 5: man get majority of the shots, and everybody else fine

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Speaker 5: it opened up my game for real. But at that

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Speaker 5: that went there and groomed us into like really being

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Speaker 5: and that's something that we hold on to this day.

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Speaker 5: We have picnics to this day at our school, and

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Speaker 5: that's rare for like a public school to still be

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Speaker 5: having picnics, to going on and all that shit.

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Speaker 4: What made you choose twenty five and sent me on.

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Speaker 2: Bean Wilson, I didn't choose it. All this shit chose me.

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Speaker 5: Bro everything that I've ever been in, I lived in

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Speaker 2: All this shit just came to me.

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Speaker 5: I never wanted none of this so fame, none of that,

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Speaker 5: even hooping, my current or my basketball dream. I didn't

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Speaker 2: It clicked.

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Speaker 5: Like that may sound crazy, nigga, think about that. Your

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Speaker 5: sophomore year. It clicked like damn, I could change my

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Speaker 5: family life with this all the way until my sophomore year,

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Speaker 5: I had just it's a pure love for the game.

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Speaker 5: I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at

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Speaker 5: I'm hooping. I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure

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Speaker 5: love sophomore year hit. I'm like, damn, I'm sending the wrong. Man,

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Speaker 5: I'm arguing with my mom at the time and all that.

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Speaker 5: You know, God, mom got the little ship in high school.

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Speaker 5: You look pendent like I'm arguing with her. Then they clicked, like, man,

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Speaker 5: I could change this ship if I go to the

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Speaker 5: change the rule. So I'm like, damn, I gotta do

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Speaker 5: a year. I have to do the year. But I was,

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Speaker 1: Another rule that you help a lot of people get

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Speaker 1: paid with the roles rule. Pioneer my boy, I said,

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Speaker 1: you look at that, and now look at everybody else's

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Speaker 1: benefiting for you.

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's that's one of That's the only thing

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Speaker 5: seven twenty, like DZ stand ford, don't forget about the

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Speaker 5: zealous youth, and zealous means pursuit of a great cause

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Speaker 5: like getting back, you know, like me and my team,

436
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 5: not only my team, but the fans, because at that time,

437
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 5: I'm I'm doing this shit, but I'm not knowing why

438
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 5: I'm creating.

439
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

440
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 5: I'm not going out to clubs, I'm not going to dinners.

441
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 5: I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that

442
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 5: you like, you have to be a machine. I ain't

443
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 5: enjoyed none of that bro until like my fourth year.

444
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: So that rule was not only for me, It's for

445
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 5: everybody my next you know what I'm saying, Like.

446
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: You're like before the view, could you're explain that real

447
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: form saying?

448
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying some of our lazier followers

449
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: who didn't pay attention to that rule.

450
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

451
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 5: The rule is that you get thirty percent of the cup,

452
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 5: meaning that you get an extra thirty to forty million

453
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 5: if you hit the bench marks that's in your rookie

454
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 5: year contract.

455
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: So all Star.

456
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 5: Team, any award, going to the All Star Game, both

457
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 5: bench marks will give you thirty percent more than a cup.

458
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 5: And yeah, at that time, I know what I was doing,

459
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 5: but I'm very grateful and very very thankful that like

460
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: the league allowed me to do that.

461
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: In fact, sure.

462
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Jason tay them all them boys first, they thank you

463
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: for showing mellow by everybody. Yes, I see, I see Jason.

464
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum told me that straight up fuck with d Roster.

465
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: You remember he remembery talking him like, Bro, he want

466
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: to artograph, he wanted to he want a jerk.

467
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 2: Bro. He was real like brod bros the greatest.

468
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Bro. I was like not to jump before. We still

469
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: got to talk about the rest of his high school

470
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: and stuff. But like when people will see him when

471
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: he was on the team together, Bro, I used to

472
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: tell him, like, bro, you.

473
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: Have a colt following.

474
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: This ship is crazy like and he would come out

475
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: and he's so humble and chill and I just joke

476
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: all day.

477
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: I played play too much.

478
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yo, like y'all want my autograph and

479
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: ship they just be like, who, I like this ship work.

480
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: So for the first time before we get back to

481
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like,

482
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status.

483
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we

484
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: went out. You was in Minnesota. I begged you. We

485
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: miam out begged you to go out.

486
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm come. He was on it.

487
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: You had you You know how you step on the

488
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: back of your shoes and ship, so you were standing

489
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: on the back of your shoes.

490
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: You're like, man, nah, I can't go. Bro. I'm like, no, man,

491
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: come on and please please, then come on. It's gonna

492
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: be cool in the white goat. We gonna we're gonna cover.

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: You up everything Like, no, I ain't even that, bro,

494
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I don't really like going out.

495
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: Finally you got tired of you like, all right, I'm

496
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna go. We walk in there. We walk in the club,

497
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: were walking in the beginning part and somebody said Derek

498
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: de Rose. I said, ship, I swear God, like two

499
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: hundred people came. I said, oh Ship. I looked at Wig.

500
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: I said ship.

501
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: We don't get this guy, little hold up. Were getting

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the club, and the dude was like, damn, we just

503
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna put y'all back here. They just started standing outside

504
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: the section. He looked at me, he was.

505
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna go. We's in that mock ten minutes.

506
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go. Fuck so imagine that Brian won't

507
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: nothing like it's left my fuck.

508
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: It's weird even doing like doing this, so like putting

509
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying.

510
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 5: Normally I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod or nothing like that.

511
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: But I fuck with y'all ship, and in order to grow,

512
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 5: you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations. So like

513
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: coming here or even talking like, y'all don't know how

514
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 5: much this means to me.

515
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

516
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 5: I love you come in and express this ship and

517
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: express like, uh, just how I feel where I'm at

518
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: at this time.

519
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: So I appreciate your niggas now have you here, but

520
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: I to have you here.

521
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: I always use anytime somebody playing the patients and listening

522
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: off the radar, and I'll be hitting niggas with.

523
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: The ruby, Rose, the Rose, the roues, whoever it for.

524
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: So I got a rose.

525
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 4: JT.

526
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: If you want my autograph, I got.

527
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: What the illness, But listen, I like I said, we

528
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: got so much to talk about, but I want to

529
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: bring back to your days. It's teammates, man, Yeah, obviously

530
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: I play get each other growing up.

531
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: How was that The first time I look up minisode, man,

532
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: I was love, Bro.

533
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 5: I mean, let me let me talk, because Bro, everybody

534
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: that probably met up no bull and ship, they just

535
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: know that he a good dude, and his energy that

536
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: he brings to the locker room is uh. You can't

537
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 5: compare it to nobody, brother like he Uh, the vibration

538
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: he brings. He's always talking ship, even though it made

539
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 5: rub people different that didn't grow up that way. Niggas

540
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 5: that grew up that way that you need that in

541
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 5: the locker room. You need motherfucker's joking playing. But when

542
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: it's time to go, he was always ready and I

543
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: knew you can who do too though, So uh just

544
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 5: having them around, having uh uh TIBs, fuck with him

545
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 5: having cat he used to fuck with cats so much,

546
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: but saying motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful ship.

547
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, and when motherfuckers were scared

548
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: to say it. I'm new to the team, so I'm

549
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 5: just trying to get the vibe on the team. You

550
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear, and people respected that.

551
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: So it was always love. Just having Jeff around It

552
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: surprised me too when like you start coming over to

553
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: the crib because you know, niggas normally don't hang out

554
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: with each other, Like yeah, it's like on some fake ship.

555
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: So like having you start coming over. Then you came

556
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: over the night that I don't believe in coincidences either.

557
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 5: You came over the night that I had fifty in

558
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: my brother's knows that my brother was in the kitchen

559
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 5: and drinking and ship.

560
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know if you'll want to

561
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: talking about that, right you gotta Yeah, I wasn't what

562
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: it's crazy all that ship? Why Yo?

563
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: That would be no.

564
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: But I mean that's a little layer of the story

565
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: because you still got so many years Becuz he he

566
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: gave me a chance. I played against him, and I

567
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: kind of I'm musa speak on the Minnesota moment, but

568
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bulls moment when we

569
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: played him in the pay of the playoffs.

570
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: And he spared me.

571
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: So before we get to the fifty, I'm gonna tell

572
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: you when he could have had fifty a night another time.

573
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh you talking in the playoffs Mother's Day and him first,

574
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I remember, forget Bro, we having the first quarter were

575
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: going back and forth. It's a duel, and I'm like,

576
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm out here dueling with the MVP.

577
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: What the fucking But I'm talking shit. It's the first

578
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: game in Atlanta. So I'm like, yeah, motherfucker life. And

579
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: he like he ain't saying nothing. He just like like

580
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: looking at me, like I'm guarding he go by. He

581
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: dunk one time. I said, oh shit, crowd go. I'm like, damn,

582
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Milena ya, y'all the trip for me, Like what the fuck?

583
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Going back and forth. Second quarter we had like thirteen

584
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: fourteen second quarter. I think I scored two points. He

585
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: scored like another nine. I'm like, damn, go to the

586
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: locker room. I'm like, Jamal, you can switch off on him.

587
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I was like, hell no, you keep going. You're doing good.

588
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: Man, like you guarding them good. I'm like, I forgot that.

589
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: At thirty.

590
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: They're like, don't worry about it, keep going playing good.

591
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I

592
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: ain't scoring no more. This motherfuck is still going. It's

593
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: starting to blow us out. He gets what you had

594
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: like forty four yeah, forty four yeah. So it's like

595
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: what it was like five six minutes left in the

596
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: fourth Mall said the same you got that Nigga looked

597
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: at I never forget. I'm like I had like twenty one.

598
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm like looking at him. I'm still trying to guard

599
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: him hard. And you know how a nigga kind of

600
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: like relax, like not tell you relax, but kind of

601
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: like it's over. Bro.

602
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: The nigga kind of like come getting me tips. I said,

603
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: fuck him. I look at the score, but I said

604
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: he ain't want to get fitty. I said, game four no,

605
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: fuck that. I was so mad. I said he spared me.

606
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: I was like I went to the locker room and

607
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: Moove was like, man, you know that's just one game. Dog.

608
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: I was like, nah, he dmn had fifty.

609
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: He's like, Nigge think you can stop him even play

610
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: shit like the only page And Nigga got hurt, like

611
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: you did good.

612
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Nigga, shut up. You're right, JA woke the tough Ast series.

613
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: It was, But you spared me? Why you spare me?

614
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: I didn't spare you, bro.

615
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: You know at that time, I wasn't even thinking about

616
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: I don't be thinking about scoring like that. I'd be

617
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: really in the game, bro, like every because my mindset

618
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: was if I didn't score, like we was gonna fall back.

619
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that.

620
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 5: When I was playing, I just knew I had to

621
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 5: affect the game in a positive way.

622
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: This when I really was like, fuck you, you hit

623
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: a floater, right, I could tested this ship out, this monucker.

624
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I was playing hard as hell, y'all, don't play defense.

625
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm playing hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me.

626
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: He hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bit.

627
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I said, hold on, he caught it after the neck

628
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Louis I said.

629
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: I said, he's playing around this funny Joe. He getting

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: ready for Miami. Okay, cool? Cool. I was hot like

631
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: I was thirty a hot. My brother like, bro, you're

632
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: getting your chance. It's all good. You ain't playing bad.

633
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me. Bro Like, like, Bro,

634
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: he embarrassed everybody the MVP. Then I thought about it.

635
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I'm good. I'm trying to

636
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: score now.

637
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: But I remember that.

638
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: Your career too, though.

639
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: Bro.

640
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, having kind of him bro like, just to even

641
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: have some good moments against him at that time, they

642
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: helped my career. But I took that to say, I

643
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: seen you could have got fifty. Then I seen you

644
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: get fifty. So that's where I was going with. I'm like, damn,

645
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I seen where he could have had fifty.

646
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I was a part of that.

647
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: And then to be a part of that moment to

648
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: see you actually get fifty and for you to say, yeah,

649
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm going for it tonight, I'll never forget. You said,

650
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: t you playing to night? Like nahin' I ain't fucking

651
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: with it. He said, Oh, I'm going forward. I said,

652
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: what you going for?

653
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: I started. I was like, what you're going for He's like.

654
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm going for it. I was like, what I'm

655
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: getting it? I'm getting fifty. It's crazy, Damn. I went

656
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: to Josh Cochia getting fifty tonight take Jumbo and nobody's playing,

657
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, he gonna get fifty. And

658
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: you know Rudy Gobert, nim Defensive Player of the Year

659
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: all that ship. I'm like, we're gonna have to kill

660
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: these niggas.

661
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Man that first quarter. Now you I hurt my ankle.

662
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm jumping up and down right. I never forget. Ryan

663
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: was like, you could play worry about that ship, learn

664
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: about this ship, and he just started.

665
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Going crazy in the whole game, like we just watching

666
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just like this dude is amazing. And it

667
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: was like, you know me playing before you got hurt

668
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm like this, this is him, like he

669
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: always got this and see him going crazy. Then you

670
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: hit Rudy with the move, finished the lay. Then they

671
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: started getting emotional, like the nigga everybody on the team just.

672
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Like, damn, bro, he worked so hard. I'm like that,

673
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm about to doing the game.

674
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: Then he got emotional and then I look at the

675
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: nigga because I know I'm like I fuck with the

676
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: cigare every day.

677
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this means some ship, like I start.

678
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Fuck man, I'm a nigga, Bro, I don't I'm from

679
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: the west side of that, Bro, I ain't about to

680
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They want

681
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: fucker to hit me out the fuck work.

682
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: By did the game go over, I'm like, ship, I'm

683
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this,

684
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this more fuck up.

685
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: He do the interview. I didn't even hear it, but

686
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: I remember he was emotional. I remember seeing it on TV.

687
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 4: Went on back there.

688
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I.

689
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Record that shit he walked in, they throw the water

690
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: on it, then I send it to your girl. Like,

691
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: this's gotta be a moment, y'all. Never forget like I was.

692
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: That ship was hard.

693
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: I was like, why that game though, poo, Why that game?

694
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: What made you? You know what I mean?

695
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

696
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: It was just I just felt something right when he

697
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 5: told me he wasn't playing. I seen Jimmy one't playing.

698
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, that's what. It's just the opportunity.

699
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: And every every nigga in the league that's not playing

700
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 5: whish they could have that opportunity. In fact, everybody, bro, shit,

701
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 5: you look at niggas that's not that in the league.

702
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: You look at it right now. Just give me that

703
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: one chance. I could go out there and I could

704
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: at least shoot fifteen to twenty field goals and see

705
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen. Yeah, and once I get rolling, you

706
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: really gonna see what's what's gonna happen.

707
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

708
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: I just felt like that moment was like just my moment,

709
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: especially going through everything that, Like I went through, went

710
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 5: through the little shit I was still going through, like

711
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: injuries and yeah, like I said, bro, I'm just living

712
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 5: in it.

713
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 6: Bro.

714
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: Like the ship that be going on, I can't really

715
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: explain because I'm in it. But all I could do

716
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 5: is like prep myself for the moments. Like when I

717
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 5: was in basketball, I was prepping myself for that moment.

718
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 5: Now that I'm switching over to of this, like my

719
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 5: Sh'S gonna be like y'all ship one day, six seven

720
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 5: cameras and bro, oh yeah, you're gonna do a part,

721
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: not the part I'm trying to get into directing, bro

722
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: oh yeah, better, but directing telling like real stories that book.

723
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 5: But I mean, y'all, like everything that y'all saw though

724
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: the commercial or the video, that's me Maddie and that's random.

725
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 5: All of us came together, got that ship together along

726
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 5: with Carlisle and Mark along with the other guys that

727
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: was a part of the team. Like, but we created

728
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: that that moment, so you know, prepping ourselves for something

729
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 5: huge for sure.

730
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: You know we're there to support. Shouts to the team

731
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: as well. And I say one thing before we get

732
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: back to the because this is my nigga, I'm just high.

733
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, but I'll never forget this. When

734
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I was like this nigga different, like y'all know me,

735
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm they know me.

736
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: No, it's all good. It's good.

737
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: They know I'm wild, y'all know me. I became a

738
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: man in Atlanta, so my perspective was a little different.

739
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: Like shit, I was going out, my team was going out.

740
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Everything. So when I came to Indiana, did I get

741
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: the Minnesota?

742
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: My mind still like, man, all right, we had a

743
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: good practice, we had some game, we hoped, but like

744
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: where were gone?

745
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: You know?

746
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: So I remember one night John Lucas called me. I'm like,

747
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Luke called me, like, yo, where we at?

748
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: He called me like, man, you.

749
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Should come in the gym. I'm like, nigga, no, right,

750
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: you talking about going on gym? Man.

751
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm here for all that. He like, man,

752
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: you tripping, bro, come in here. I come in there,

753
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: and he like he like text me like he rows

754
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: in here and I come in. I remember with your

755
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: whole family, you had your daughter in the stroller. Your

756
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: girl was sitting on there on stroller. You were shooting,

757
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: and you had shot Damnar five hundred shots. And I

758
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: remember because you had to end up hurting your elbow.

759
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

760
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: So I'm like, how many shots this nigga shoot? The

761
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Jay look like he gonna be ready? What's the fuck

762
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: he gonna be ready?

763
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and we about to play in the playoffs,

764
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: about to play in Houston. That's when you first came

765
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: to the team, like, he's gonna be ready, don't trip,

766
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: he gonna be ready. I'm like, well, Ship, he shooting

767
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: fire and shot gonna shoot fifty.

768
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: From the thirties getting them up. So I'm laughing, and

769
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: Ship I'm colder.

770
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm joking and Ship and were getting the playoffs, and

771
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to TIBs like, man, this nigga

772
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: gotta play like he was having me getting the game

773
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: he killed. I'm like, no, he gotta come on, man,

774
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: he gotta get in the game. Earlier, TIBs like, no, fuck,

775
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give

776
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: a fuck, take him take him out?

777
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: He like, how do I tell him? Like, nigga tips

778
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: is shoot, He's like everybody and.

779
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: All then that nigga just starts saying fuck it, come on,

780
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I swear, come on. Yeah, I watched this nigga builds bro.

781
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: He was that's fire and the next year with you

782
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: shot forty.

783
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: From thirty forty.

784
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: But you assistant with that too though, right when I

785
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: got to the team, you probably remember you, Hey, that's

786
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 5: you for that bread.

787
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: I have money. You don't understand it though, when you

788
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: like I. The league ain't nothing but specialists right in facts.

789
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 5: So when you are aren't labeled or shooting like that,

790
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 5: that shit can last for like a long time until

791
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: you beat that ship.

792
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: You got to you gotta beat that, you know what

793
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Allegation, Come on, man.

794
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 5: So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana,

795
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: they know how to shoot when they one years old

796
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 5: teaching they formed.

797
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: They and their crib elbow all that. All y'all shots

798
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: the same.

799
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: I have not one person growing up to tell me

800
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show

801
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this ship

802
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it,

803
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 5: none of that. It's solely me being in the park

804
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: by myself testing out ship and all that stick or

805
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: you know how, after experimenting and.

806
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: That shit stuck.

807
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 5: But so to like go to a team and to

808
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: be cool with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting

809
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: game with him, and don't take it personal if they

810
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 5: beat you.

811
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. I want to take it like you

812
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

813
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: But it takes uh to go one on one or

814
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: to the challenge a motherfucking one and to push yourself

815
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: in practice when you ain't know nothing about it. I'm

816
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: shooting with you. You don't know damn films. All yeah,

817
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying. Fucking around shooting, playing, talking

818
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: to people. I'm trying to make every mother. I'm gonna

819
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: teach your show.

820
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: Your want to show your ass.

821
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm in forty this. I'm probab to stop shooting because

822
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: I was like this nigga starting to beat me. Man quit.

823
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, he ain't take he was taking

824
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: a light because he's playing. He always playing, and all right,

825
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: but if Tims ain't on that, he ain't on that.

826
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: That story of my life that my god br so

827
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: like to to actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter.

828
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: I took pride it up even though you didn't know

829
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: about this.

830
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: But now I've seen it. Then when the next year,

831
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: I'll never forget.

832
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: I started, like we started starting together at the beginning

833
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: of the year, and I'm like, I'm going on fast work.

834
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm starting the ball to him in the corner and

835
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: he fired, and I'm like, this.

836
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Nigga really a shooter. Like he running the lane, min

837
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: you like Nigga the MVP. He great with the ball,

838
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: like I should be running the lane.

839
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Nigga.

840
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: He like, get it, get it, get it, taking off

841
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: to the corner and firing threes and I'm laughing. I'm

842
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: like this nigga shooter, Like what is Nigga spotting up forty?

843
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Shooting forty from the three? And I'll never forget. I

844
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: was like, Nigga shooting forty. He was like, you know,

845
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: he a student of the game, Like Nigga gotta be

846
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: a shoot to three man. They paying niggas shoot the three,

847
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: and I remember shoot was sweet.

848
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: He was like I remember everything.

849
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Bro. He was like, I'm a I'm aa shoot forty.

850
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro,

851
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: then I'm done, sir. And I was like, nah, you're

852
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna leave. I'm in my head like he about to

853
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: leave Minnesota because ain't the way he's starting over me.

854
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: At the time, niggas was telling me the crowd get

855
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: him out. I'm like, damn, that's my nigga. I gotta

856
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: help me. He got so bad, my nigga.

857
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: I started telling niggas like, do you want to start

858
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: because it is easier, nigga.

859
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: You gonna go off the bench? Bro?

860
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: What but I give him credit, Nigga, I'll never forget.

861
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: He told me like, and then we got to get

862
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: back to where it started. But then he told me,

863
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: he was like, tie, you gotta find your niche cause nigga,

864
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time,

865
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need

866
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: somebody to kill off the bench.

867
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: They gonna find a new role. And I never he

868
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: did not want to start.

869
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: I remember I went to Tim. I said, Tims, I

870
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: am sick of hearing these When you start him, he

871
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: was like, who I'm gonna start him over?

872
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga me.

873
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't

874
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench.

875
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: He was like no, no, and I was starting together

876
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: and he was like, I could do that who we

877
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: take out and we start trying to figure it out whatever.

878
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: But I just remember when you said that. So when

879
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: you left, I went to Ryan, I said I wanna

880
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: come off the bench because I was like, I'm about

881
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to do exactly what he did. I was like, I

882
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: want to come off the bench because you told me, like, Bro,

883
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career. Bro,

884
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out and were about to fill

885
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: these new roles. I was like, I'm about to take

886
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: his role. And I started doing everything he did. I

887
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: started stretching. I ain't do none of that ship, phone,

888
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: roller ball and ship.

889
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm like that nigga, he figured it out. Fuck that

890
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing that. Ship did quite work out, but it

891
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: was too late. Was broke down. I was a money.

892
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: So I had your knee and that was it. Yeah,

893
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: Well I had ankles. I had sergaery on my ankle. Yeah,

894
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: but then I had my patella was gone. I ain't

895
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: got I'm bone on bone out.

896
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: It's over with.

897
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: Ad ain't worth a quarters an.

898
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: It was gone last year.

899
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: It was it was gone my last year in Minnesota.

900
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: So I was bone on bone. But I was just

901
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: playing and then the last piece of piece of my

902
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: Pateller tour. And when I was in Milwaukee, Uh, it

903
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: was over with that bone on bone.

904
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: That's something. It was over once you go there for

905
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: sure doing that as well. Yeah, how are you doing that?

906
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: How are you doing that?

907
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: He's different, bro, Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen,

908
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: you have so many crazy accomplishments. Man, we got to

909
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: speak on something, man. Obviously we got to start one

910
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: of the crazy ones. MVP, youngest MVP ever having one

911
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: the craziest season of the NBA in the conference where

912
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Lebron James was like, how was that season for you?

913
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Because obviously you know what I'm saying. You came in

914
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: the league going crazy. How how crazy was that particular

915
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: season for you?

916
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: Bro?

917
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember

918
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 5: at that time. My whole mindset was like keep it moving.

919
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 5: So you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you

920
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: would cherished some of the days a little bit more.

921
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 5: But like me looking in the past and shit, but

922
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: what I was telling y'all at that time, I didn't

923
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 5: enjoy anything, Bro. I didn't go out to eat with

924
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: my family or friends like that, No movies like that,

925
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 5: none of that, bro, no concerts, because I was totally

926
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 5: locked in too thinking that I had to follow like

927
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: Kobe was doing, thinking cold as, not enjoying itself, not

928
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: going on vacas, not doing any of that. So I

929
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: felt tricked, like in a way whenever at the time

930
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: I felt that way, Like my fourth year, I ended

931
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: up going to the Philippines. When I saw him like relaxed,

932
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this whole time.

933
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: I dedicated three.

934
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: Three years of thinking you didn't do ship, bro, and

935
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 5: to see you actually out here just chilling like it

936
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: kind of fucked me up. But like I couldn't take

937
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 5: it personally because even though I was like admiring them

938
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: like that, so uh, that year it was just fun, man,

939
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: something that you can't explain, like my being in shy

940
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 5: at the going number one and being the point guard

941
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: of the team. Like you got the rocking your hand,

942
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: and you got your guys, like my guys being around

943
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: to sixth grade on the baseline, yeah talking or you

944
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, So the whole time like that's

945
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: something that yeah, but we did it right though, men

946
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: In fact, we made sure that the ups and downs

947
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 5: that we had in Chicago, no matter what it was,

948
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: we could go back there and still like do business

949
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 5: or whatever it is with them.

950
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: So it was a blast over for sure.

951
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Man, both of you can speak just being you know

952
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city,

953
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: playing for your hometown. Like, what's that feeling like, Like

954
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: we talked about it, but what's that feeling growing up

955
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago?

956
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: Like all right, I saw MJ hitters. Now they look

957
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a

958
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 5: lot of pressure. I can imagine.

959
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: A lot.

960
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of

961
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: people when they talk about Chicago, they always mentioned like

962
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: the bad.

963
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: Shit, So I got to mix it up.

964
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 5: MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played

965
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career, he would

966
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago.

967
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: He became the black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago.

968
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: Just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago,

969
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 5: and it's coaches everywhere, Like with the basketball coach is

970
00:46:53,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: just strong, and that the expectation of like what you're

971
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: gonna do. We've seen you. We see niggas like you

972
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: back in the sixties. Are you supposed to have been

973
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 5: like elevated the game or doing something? They're like, what's next?

974
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: MJ one them three? I guarantee you. He had people

975
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 5: in this corner like, there's no way they're gonna let

976
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 5: you win. You just went on vacer niggas, you ain't

977
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 5: gonna let you come back and win three more. I

978
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: bet you can't.

979
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: That's what niggas in shot telling them, I bet you can't.

980
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: They talk to the wrong one.

981
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: I bet you he what one?

982
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: I bet you can't win another one. But tell you, guys, look,

983
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: I'm gigging them up. That's yeah, yeah, gigging them up,

984
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: just off the strength. But that's what I meant by

985
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: the culture though, like being there, that's what I felt.

986
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: Even though people my guys never came up to me

987
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: and was like, man, you gotta kill this motherfucker this game.

988
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: I felt it. Though they ain't have to say nothing.

989
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: They'll say little shit. They all be in the kitchen

990
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: or something. Man, what try I heard?

991
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: What's talk?

992
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 5: Throwing the party to night, not saying it to me,

993
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: but they just talking, but making sure that I hear

994
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: like what going on me?

995
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: I was that nigga I'm going out.

996
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 6: To kill from.

997
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm listening to even though they ain't bringing it to me,

998
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: they they staying it so that I could I just

999
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: could hear it.

1000
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so is this nigga fuck Rory

1001
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: forty of me?

1002
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest

1003
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: person that they had to go out, like who is

1004
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 4: your old person? Like that? You was like, damn, what's

1005
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 4: crazy killing? But I got to sleep for him.

1006
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: I had a problem down damn there with everybody, especially

1007
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: in TIB's system defensive system, where like at that time

1008
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: we icing everything. He if one person go over the

1009
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: top basketball terms, he beat you and over the top

1010
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 5: of the pick and roll like he now you're chasing

1011
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 5: them like behind them and shit if that happened, he

1012
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 5: like it was just hard. But I'm a pure point

1013
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 5: so I hate point guards that feel like they about

1014
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 5: to control the whole game. So scoring, if you scoring,

1015
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: I don't care about scoring like that, even though like

1016
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 5: the NBA forced me into scoring. I never was the

1017
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: leading score on any of my elementary time, probably was

1018
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: the leading scorer, but high school somebody else was college

1019
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: CD I was, so I never was the leading score

1020
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: I just found my spots and I found the way

1021
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: to make it look good. But I'm a pure point

1022
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: at hard So I hate point guards that don't care

1023
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 5: about scoring like a rondo like this nigga, like they

1024
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 5: could fall into just the system of just playing the

1025
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: right way.

1026
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: Like no, I'm in the least try to get in

1027
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: your head. People don't.

1028
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, scoring ain't really that much to me because I

1029
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 5: winning the game is more than me. I heard one

1030
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 5: of my O g's, Kurt Heinrich, say like after somebody

1031
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: gave him like forty or fifty, he's saying this ship

1032
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: out like out loud, but I'm just hearing them. Were

1033
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: walking in the hallway we won, and he was like, ha,

1034
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: that motherfucker just scored fifty points for no reason.

1035
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ship hit home.

1036
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: Well, Like that's why after I scored that fifty, I

1037
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: was so happy that one nigga, Like you got the win, bro,

1038
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: like fifty or sick whatever it is if you ain't

1039
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 5: getting that dub at the end, raced up the fact that.

1040
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: Wasn't jed in high school, I mean college.

1041
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 2: In college, I was I get some cool that fucking

1042
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Jenny like for by the league though he adjusted.

1043
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: Community from but everybody liked that in high school, college

1044
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: you getting to it.

1045
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: That's how you got to the league. That's what these

1046
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: young kids.

1047
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: They don't be looking at these players or thinking like, oh,

1048
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: you were bum because you on the bench. Bro, did

1049
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: you see this player? He was in high school of college.

1050
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: That's how he got seen. Bro, you know what I'm saying.

1051
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: For sure, Man, you brought one of my favorite college

1052
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: players of all the time. My boy cdy'all, y'all was

1053
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: going gray, I have to.

1054
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: See y'all Man. Yeah, no, that's the fact, C. The

1055
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: we we got I gotta tell this sort of story CD.

1056
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: So he tried to hold me right.

1057
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 5: So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We're

1058
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: there for summer. Uh, summer school. We shouldn't have course

1059
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 5: shots for hundred one hundred dollars a shot though at

1060
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: the time we both flig and.

1061
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: We don't got it like that. So every shot, really,

1062
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, that's a shot in college.

1063
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 5: So uh, he hit a shot and I shot right

1064
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: behind him, and he said that my foot was on

1065
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: the line, and he tried to stand on me like

1066
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: he you know his voice, you know, and I'm like

1067
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 5: I am back. I'm like, no, nigga, no, you got

1068
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 5: no one, no matter of fact. He shot the shot

1069
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: and his foot was on the line and I made

1070
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: him shoot over and he was surprised that I said something,

1071
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: and he fucked with me for saying something like damn,

1072
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: you don't let me hold you.

1073
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, nigga, I ain't going for check.

1074
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 5: I gotta tell another story. So this when I really

1075
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 5: knew that I made the right decision. So once again,

1076
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: summer school were there. Joey Dorsey ended up going to

1077
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: against the boot concert video shoot.

1078
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: Shout on Sure.

1079
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: He was in all the Legend Man, all the Leash.

1080
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 5: He missed the run, right, he missed the whole run.

1081
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 5: I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to the house,

1082
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: Joy come to the crib. He thinking everything cool, Cee.

1083
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: I ain't talking to him at all. He started cursing

1084
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 5: Joey out so bad, bro, like, man, you let them

1085
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: mother fucking team down. That's some whole ass talking to

1086
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 5: him crazy. And you know, Joy Big, I'm thinking that

1087
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 5: they're about to fight because it's my first own nor

1088
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I just got here joy respected it

1089
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 5: started crying. Bro, I said, I made the right choice. Yeah,

1090
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 5: these niggas care about winning. Bro, Like you mad at

1091
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: the nigga for there's some summer ship, you know what

1092
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying. But and there was some ship that we

1093
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: were running, not col we we set that ship up

1094
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 5: or he set it up and the nigga didn't show up.

1095
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 5: And once I've seen that, I'm like, this is gonna

1096
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 5: be a good ass year. Yeah, older niggas, that's on

1097
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: the same page.

1098
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, all, yeah, the hell of a run, the

1099
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 4: hell of a year. Bro, Like, do you remember anything

1100
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: from that game? That championship game.

1101
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: Shot? Shout to my dog, that was a tough shot.

1102
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 5: The only thing I yeah, the fireworks, Bro, after you

1103
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: leave the court, the shit be burning you, bro? Or

1104
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 5: why as you walking off? I wanted to fight somebody.

1105
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 5: That's the only thing I remember you walking as a loser.

1106
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 5: The fireworks you see on TV that shit come down.

1107
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 5: A lot of people be getting burned in that ship.

1108
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 5: I didn't know that the ship was burning me, and

1109
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: that ship was making me so mad as I walked

1110
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: off the court, knowing that I blew the game.

1111
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: That was the only thing I remember for real, because

1112
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: after that it was straight lead.

1113
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was like when you was like, you know,

1114
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: I seen a video documentary you on, you know, Chicago

1115
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: getting the first pick or Miami or whatever.

1116
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: What was it like that feeling when you've seen Chicago

1117
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: got that first pick? Like damn.

1118
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, we were in LA at the time, and

1119
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: right when I seen that, they were like one of

1120
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 5: the last ones. I kind of knew then, like what

1121
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: it was, even though people didn't in the room didn't

1122
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: say it. I'm like, damn, Chicago seven percent change. I'm like,

1123
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: we gonna end up winning that shit, and yeah, that's

1124
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: going back to the crib, Like, yeah, everybody got to

1125
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: experience that one time at least one time. Yeah, Like

1126
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 5: don't you know how everybody was saying you should play

1127
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 5: New York at least one time as a as a

1128
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 5: hooper just to feel an atmosphere. I feel the same

1129
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 5: way about people playing at home. If you could, you

1130
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: might as well, like at least get that experience.

1131
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: You know, I leaned on you.

1132
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: You don't even know, but I left Indiana to come

1133
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, right, so when you came on a team,

1134
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota.

1135
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: I love Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib,

1136
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, damn, it was everything

1137
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: I wanted.

1138
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm at the.

1139
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: Crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game after I

1140
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: lead the game, I even my family all that. So

1141
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: when I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like,

1142
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced

1143
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: what I experienced, like he had to lead a crib before.

1144
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: So like that's why I started, Like you probably ain't know,

1145
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: I started gravitating Tod you like, bro.

1146
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: You won't shoot you want to do that?

1147
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: And you like, because I just want to get like, damn,

1148
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: how did that nigga get like through leaving Chicago? Like

1149
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: you was every Like I was nowhere near what you

1150
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: was Indiana, but you are the Chicago Like I was good,

1151
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: but I played one year. He was their MVP, high expectations,

1152
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: showed it up. I'm like, man, how he get through

1153
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: leaving the crib? So I just wanted to like, I'm like, man,

1154
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: how he worked?

1155
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: What is mental like?

1156
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: And then I start seeing you read books and ship

1157
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: and it's everything that I never even thought, like I'm

1158
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: thinking you like like not like me, but I knew

1159
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: you was like, damn you from the Midwest. He probably

1160
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: joking clown and clowning and you joking clown. You were

1161
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: super like dedicated to ship. And I was just like,

1162
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: all right, let me not fuck up his dedication because

1163
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm type of that, hey, bro, you try to get

1164
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: some bullshit. And he was just like and he kind

1165
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: of like made me start like appreciating the craft again

1166
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: because I was kind of like, damn, I got paid,

1167
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm cool, my family straight.

1168
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: But then I seen you.

1169
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, and he's super cool, Like he got paid,

1170
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: he don't even gotta be doing this really, but he

1171
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: appreciating the craft, and it made me like start like,

1172
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember

1173
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: why I love hooping bro.

1174
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 5: Going into the league though, nah, nigga, I was like

1175
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 5: everybody else this ship. It takes time, Bro, takes growth,

1176
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 5: Bro to get I went through what I went through.

1177
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 5: I tried leaving two times, Like so you get to

1178
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 5: a point where like I could keep doing the same

1179
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: shit or I could change.

1180
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: So after I went through my case, I made a

1181
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: vow that.

1182
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 5: For seven years that I was just gonna like try

1183
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 5: to change my image, you know what I'm saying, by

1184
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 5: just just being me, just staying out of sight, out

1185
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 5: of mind. And it went from seven to now I'm

1186
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: on year like eleven of me just like finding enjoyy bro,

1187
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: you know what i mean, Like basketball, goat me that.

1188
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: But even coming here, I'm always looking for something for inspiration.

1189
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 5: So like coming here seeing what y'all got going on,

1190
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: watching from a far, like huge fan of the Jeff

1191
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 5: of course, seeing how he's adapting to like this new

1192
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 5: world and new business venture that he's in. So the

1193
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 5: questions that I asked you all in there, that's why

1194
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 5: I asked you know what I'm saying, because but that's

1195
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 5: what y'all hit, you know what I mean.

1196
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: So I appreciate you, Well, was it a vet that

1197
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 4: when you got to the league that kind of embraced you?

1198
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Every almost every vet, bro, every vet, every teammate I had.

1199
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this, every

1200
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: one of them.

1201
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 5: Because when it comes to like the basketball ship when

1202
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 5: I was in it, I'm like, even though I don't

1203
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 5: want the fame, I still wanted people to like appreciate,

1204
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 5: like the work that I put in or like like

1205
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 5: the way that I played so nice to be on

1206
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 5: teams when niggas and they tell me they from Booze

1207
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 5: from Alaska, I'm thinking.

1208
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: About market market. Yeah, market, that's a market.

1209
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 5: Okay, Like damn, I never knew you know what I mean,

1210
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 5: all you from overseas, Damn they watching you too.

1211
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean they watching me all right, bet like you

1212
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1213
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 5: Away showed love to everybody, and I had great vets

1214
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 5: to gray vets like show me about health, like Luau

1215
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: was the first one. Should I have seen eat like

1216
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at halftime? And now

1217
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 5: that's a custom in the league. Let's before you go

1218
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 5: on the buzz and I mean like brunch, all that

1219
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 5: shit is a is just there now, But before it

1220
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: was there, you had like OG's that really you saw

1221
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 5: stretching before every game like a Nazi Muhammad, like Joe Kim,

1222
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 5: how he took care of his body. Like a lot

1223
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 5: of guys were really pros bro slay the least sixteen

1224
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 5: seventeen years. Yeah, didn't get in the game at all,

1225
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 5: but they get ready, they get activated like they're about

1226
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: to play thirty minutes and to just chill. So I've

1227
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 5: seen that, and I'm like, man, whenever I do get

1228
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 5: in that position, I'm gonna try to handle that the

1229
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 5: same way. But only how you get there is you

1230
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 5: got to kill your ego. And that's not like a

1231
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: one time thing. That's like a continuous, fucking everyday thing.

1232
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. What motherfuckers think it's just

1233
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 5: one time. No, that's just the first challenge. This shit

1234
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 5: just gonna keep popping up, especially if you call your

1235
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 5: man you feel like you accomplish something, you know what

1236
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 5: I mean. It's a thin balance. It's a balance. You

1237
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: got to balance the shit out. So being aware of that,

1238
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 5: being mindful of it, Like that's when he met me.

1239
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: That's what the stage that I was in.

1240
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: When I seen you, Like, I ain't gonna lie everybody

1241
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: know me. I'll be like I don't want no kids. Yeah,

1242
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: but when I see you with your son, like being

1243
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat eye.

1244
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: This just random shit.

1245
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I remember because I used to be watching, like that's

1246
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: hard y'all try to shoot the ball into the rack, correct, Yeah,

1247
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, y'all thinkgas know y'all not about to

1248
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: hit that, right. I'm like, y'a, I'm looking like they

1249
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna hit that, and y'all would continuously do it.

1250
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: And I remember one time he hit it, yes, and

1251
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I, I fucking hit that ship.

1252
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm surprised. To y'all, I'm not going to bet. But

1253
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: that's my version of the crate for him.

1254
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 5: Put the crate up, bro, We're gonna we're gonna make

1255
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 5: a basketball rim out of anything on this motherfucker being creative.

1256
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: And I want you to be able to be on

1257
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 5: this court at this stage and feel comfortable around twenty

1258
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 5: to ten, ten thousand people looking at you. Just be

1259
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 5: yourself because a lot of kids I see, like a

1260
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 5: lot of kids that get on that stage free's up,

1261
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: scared than the motherfucker. I'm like, no, I don't want

1262
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: my kids going to do that. Through that man, I'm

1263
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 5: putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable, like I'm

1264
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 5: putting myself in positions. But for him, I wish I

1265
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 5: had a dad or yeah, something I wish I had,

1266
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 5: So I got to present the opportunity for them.

1267
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: I was watching that ship, man, he over there tossing

1268
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: that ball, so it was like three days in a row.

1269
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yeah, he ain't gonna I ain't gonna that.

1270
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna like I'm over there like that.

1271
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: Like that.

1272
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: It's dope.

1273
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: It's hard a lot of these days. I'm glad you

1274
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 4: ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying

1275
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 4: to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially

1276
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 4: a lot of these A you, Dad, So I was

1277
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: going to ask you, like how do you balance that

1278
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 4: dad life? And you know, making sure he stay on

1279
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 4: the straight arrow on the hool store, you know, pushing

1280
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 4: itself to his maxibility.

1281
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's

1282
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 5: more like discipline with him right now. But it's about

1283
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 5: knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and

1284
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of little hoopers need to

1285
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: hear this, like, uh, knowing your worth, Like if a

1286
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 5: company come to you for an nil deal or something

1287
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 5: like that, and like you don't know your worth, you'll

1288
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: take any deal, but you got to look at like

1289
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 5: what do you see your brand or what you see

1290
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 5: yourself associated with? Like he had a deal to come

1291
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 5: to him in which I thought that he shouldn't have took,

1292
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 5: but I can't say that to him. I asked him

1293
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: about it. Hey, you think it's right. So who do

1294
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: you see yourself as associated.

1295
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: With this brand? That brand?

1296
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 5: He started thinking about it like I gotta make you think.

1297
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 5: I gotta provoke a thought, you know what I'm saying,

1298
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 5: Like just to see where your head, that where you

1299
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: think at least put it on your mind that if

1300
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 5: you see yourself being an MVP type caliber, whoever you

1301
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 5: associate yourself with got to be on that same level too.

1302
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: So like the hoop inside, I let him just play bro.

1303
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: I'm not on him. I make him do his push

1304
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 5: ups and sit ups and shit like that, but it's

1305
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 5: really just school and making sure that his mental rate.

1306
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 5: Like a lot of kids, he quiet, So a lot

1307
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 5: of kids be like going through shit by themselves, and

1308
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 5: my kids, I want to be able to make sure

1309
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 5: that I'm there well, not only like my kids, but

1310
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: my family.

1311
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's interesting here you set.

1312
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying with you, he coached your

1313
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: alma mater. You know what I'm saying.

1314
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: Kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation

1315
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: now growing up in high school, being good at having

1316
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: some type of impression they getting deals.

1317
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, that might be cool now, but

1318
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ain't nobody

1319
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: getting deals with the high school? Not idiot? He loving?

1320
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh ship yeah, loving?

1321
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: But like it's like coaching kids, Like you're right, it's

1322
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the mental stuff, like what they go

1323
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: through outside of basketball. You just want to make sure

1324
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: that they're in a comfortable spoor. They in a good place.

1325
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: But like you doing that with your kids, and that's dope.

1326
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to know, like when you watch them play,

1327
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: because I seen him hit a game a game winner.

1328
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you know you too.

1329
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Like I remember him like you said,

1330
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: I remember shooting on them on the little rack or whatever.

1331
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: So to see him here in game winners, do you

1332
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: see his skilled up? Like skill level going up? And

1333
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: you like, ship, man, I'm starting to see it.

1334
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: Do you there is now? Man?

1335
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 5: Like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that

1336
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm taking down. Bro, I have to be there, yeah

1337
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 5: for my fans, Like uh uh, it's all about the discipline, bro,

1338
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 5: Like I don't know how many times like as a

1339
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 5: as a I'm talking as a dad not a father,

1340
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 5: because it's a difference. Like my kids call me dad

1341
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 5: I love, and they call me dad not father. Don't

1342
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 5: sound right, Jackson, Ship don't sound right to me. So

1343
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 5: like that time that I'm putting in, giving every one

1344
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 5: of my kids that equal time, you know what I'm saying.

1345
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 5: But with him, since he's the oldest, I have to

1346
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 5: be a little bit more strict on him as far

1347
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 5: as making sure he gets up on time for school,

1348
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 5: taking out the garbage, a little chores ship, but creates

1349
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 5: your character, you know what I'm saying. Oh man, So

1350
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 5: I'm seeing like it carries over to where if you're

1351
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 5: not disciplined in something that you're passionate about back in basketball,

1352
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 5: how you think you're gonna be disciplined in the other areas.

1353
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 5: You know, if you're not disciplined about something that you

1354
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 5: love other areas is gonna fall too that you're gonna

1355
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 5: crumble at some point, you know what I'm saying. In fact,

1356
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 5: so I'm like, bro dedicate yourself to this, and I

1357
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 5: guarantee you it's gonna pay off. But he listened though,

1358
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 5: Like that's half the battle too, and which I love

1359
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 5: about him. I could talk to him. He got his

1360
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 5: own individuality too. So once I see that, I don't

1361
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 5: want to tamper with that because I see that if

1362
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 5: I do, you're gonna try to make You're gonna try

1363
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 5: to follow me or follow in my footstep. You're your

1364
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 5: own person. You are PJ Ro, you are your own entity. Right,

1365
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 5: how you feel about this? I asked him, how you

1366
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 5: feel brow what you think? He'll tell me the honest truth.

1367
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 5: All this is how we're gonna think about it, just

1368
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 5: like we were talking about with the deal. He was

1369
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 5: mad that I was telling him that shit about the

1370
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 5: deal because he knew that I was telling them right,

1371
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 5: Like what Like I was asking them questions, and the

1372
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 5: question I was the answers. He was like, not elaborating

1373
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 5: on him, Like yeah, he said a certain company name.

1374
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to say the name, say their name.

1375
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, so, how like that don't add up? P

1376
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. He started to hear what

1377
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying. He heard what I was saying, but start crying.

1378
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I'm not here to chastise you or

1379
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 5: make you feel like you made the wrong decision. I'm

1380
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: just showing you that you have worth they're coming because

1381
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 5: you have worth. Now you decide what that worth is

1382
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 5: going to be a lot of kids these days, they

1383
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 5: don't know what the worth. They don't even know that

1384
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 5: they got work alone, telling the motherfucker that they love

1385
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 5: them with some of it, hitting them, patting them on

1386
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 5: the back for letting for doing something right. So me

1387
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: expressing to him where I'm at right now, telling him

1388
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: like man, PJ, I'm doing this for me, my nigga,

1389
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 5: not doing this for you.

1390
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: No more quinning because of me. I'm tired of it.

1391
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm doing this solely to be around y'all, taking you

1392
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: to school, I'm picking you up. I'm doing this. I'm

1393
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: doing that. You appreciate this ship. You may not understand

1394
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: it now.

1395
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 5: That's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna understand it,

1396
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: but later on you're gonna respect it.

1397
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 4: I say that all the time, but you ain't. Motherfucker

1398
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: kids trifle.

1399
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: Home.

1400
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 4: A line of told motherfucker bro y'all keep his room,

1401
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: trifle these mice and ship O, come fuck your roaches

1402
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 4: and ship. You got a lot to them. You gotta

1403
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 4: kind of cash for sure, ya saying all the bullshit.

1404
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: Look appearance anything to make them.

1405
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: Listen, Bro, for sure, you gotta trick him a little bit,

1406
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 5: like that's what I mean by being a dad, like sparking,

1407
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 5: like sparking that engine. Sometimes you got a lot of

1408
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: kids now they don't know how. They ain't gonna know

1409
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 5: because of the the conditions and living circumstances that you

1410
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 5: gather me in, because of what you went through.

1411
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: I went through this.

1412
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm putting you in this type of environment so that

1413
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 5: you don't got to go back to that. If they

1414
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 5: do go back to it, you will fail. You any

1415
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 5: you a failure if you let them go back. Yeah,

1416
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 5: you feel what I'm saying. So I'm creating this for

1417
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's

1418
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 5: the stage. Man, just bossing up brow what it's all about.

1419
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: Bro, for sure, Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed.

1420
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 6: Man.

1421
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this

1422
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: means for you, Bro, and how much this means to us.

1423
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: Like we said, we got this opportunity. Shot to the

1424
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: team for making this happen. Man, we were at static. Man,

1425
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: we are really happy that you pulled up on this.

1426
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 6: Man.

1427
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: Means the world to us for show. Bro, Bro, No, no,

1428
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: for sure, I gotta say something for you. Leave.

1429
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm so geekd bro, like I'm a fan, Like I

1430
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: know we graduated seven whatever, So like when I was

1431
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 1: in college, you was a rookie and you going against

1432
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: Rondo and them in the celt in the playoffs and stuff,

1433
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some I know him,

1434
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: like I competed against him.

1435
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: I see him to see you do that ship and

1436
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: then like to get to know you over the years.

1437
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: And then see what kind of person as you, kind

1438
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: of father you are, how dope you are as a

1439
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: person cool, and like for you to have all the

1440
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: accolades and all all the shit that you've got, and

1441
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: how humble you was, Like, Bro, you will put me

1442
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: in spaces and we'd be in rooms and you are

1443
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: like you.

1444
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: The one, and you.

1445
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: Like this nigga crazy, I'm taking over the floor. But

1446
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: everybody want to be around you, and that shit is dope.

1447
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: You don't meet too many people who just like who

1448
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: got the resume or the person that you are and

1449
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: let you be you like you ain't had to let

1450
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: me start, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like you

1451
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I earn. I ain't saying I earned

1452
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: the start, bro, But we being honest. Bro, I'm just

1453
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: a realistic person.

1454
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

1455
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: Like you might have went through some stuff, you went

1456
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: to New York and whatever, whatever, and then you came

1457
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: to the team. But when you started hooping, nigga, you

1458
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: was averaging sixteen off the bench.

1459
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: I was averaging ten.

1460
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 5: But still at that time, I was fully aware of

1461
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 5: where I was at. At that time, I didn't want

1462
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 5: to start. Tims used to try to come to me.

1463
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I know you.

1464
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: Didn't want to start, but I was like please, Opposite

1465
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: the whole reason I'm telling Tims, tell the man is

1466
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: probably going to you like you need to start.

1467
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: Like no, I'm like telling what's.

1468
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: So crazy is in a different situation that's goes differently

1469
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: and most of the time, and that's the typical NBA

1470
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: typically got them going against each other, but you're pushing

1471
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: each other.

1472
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: And that's why I worked out and.

1473
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 4: The niggas just didn't want to start because they was

1474
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: hurting this feelings.

1475
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: It was about it was it wasn't it was about

1476
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: that nigga. That's what I came.

1477
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 6: I was.

1478
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: I was I was fucking zero that.

1479
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: Listen my last day after we went to the Prince House. Right,

1480
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: we went to Prince House. Right, we had a little

1481
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: showing that I'm gonna let you'll get out of here

1482
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: me Wig. So if you to know Wig is to

1483
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: love Wig and he's live, he's me and him very similar,

1484
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: entire a lot of stuff and then.

1485
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: Just put it out.

1486
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: So I didn't say that, he said that, So then

1487
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: the no Wig, it is the know Gorgy. So it's me,

1488
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: Gorgy and Wig at a table.

1489
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: Right. We don't smile for ship. We don't do ship.

1490
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: We mean like, people don't know this side of me.

1491
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: Only the teammates know our joking ships like the fan

1492
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: don't know. They think I'm mass So I don't smile

1493
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: about ship. But Wig don't smell about ship. Gorgy he's

1494
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: the nicest person in the world, but they don't know.

1495
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: Like he don't smile. Man our table empty, nobody want

1496
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: our table. I'm talking about man his table. Nigga to

1497
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: Prince Jersey walking by, not one person had a just press.

1498
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: By the way, I think my mama might have one.

1499
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: This nigga.

1500
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: Prince Jersey bro had to be the highest selling ship

1501
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: in the NBA that it had to be Bro. I know, Bro,

1502
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: they was walking by. I was like, damn, Damn, Damn Damn.

1503
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, wig damn.

1504
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: We just got a Max.

1505
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, Bro, you might want he. I gotta leave, Bro,

1506
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: they don't fuck with me, y'all. I'm like, they don't know.

1507
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: It was not even just like I gotta leave, like

1508
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: they're not fucking with me no more. It was Cat

1509
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: and then d Ro. This Jersey was more than Cats.

1510
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he's not gonna be back, like

1511
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Cat not fucking with that.

1512
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: I'm keeping it up being Bro. I'm keeping up being Bro.

1513
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: I was like, you'll know.

1514
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: Stop, Okay, I'm Cat Brood the guy. I love Cat Bro.

1515
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Cat coolest half. I think Cat one of the coldest

1516
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: players to ever play. When I seen that ship, you

1517
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: had to be there.

1518
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: Bro.

1519
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: We act the Prince House Bro with Prince Jerseys. I'm

1520
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: watching them like this is d roll ship. Like I'm like,

1521
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: this is ship, you know what I mean. I'm I'm

1522
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm a real nigga. Really I realized it. Yeah, he

1523
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: went it six me. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this his team.

1524
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: That was one of the best collapse that they did.

1525
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: I was was that the first time they ever did that.

1526
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1527
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: That was fired up. Bro Ma Mama called me like,

1528
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: get that prince dressing. Baby, it's gonna be a lot

1529
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: for you.

1530
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: Up there. I said, can you sign this? Mother? It's

1531
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: how much of people house?

1532
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 4: He signed it for me?

1533
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I signed it, and somebody took

1534
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: that bitch. Yeah you signed and put it in the locker.

1535
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: Nigga. I came back, it was gone. Was one of

1536
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: the quick Yeah, right now, I can. I know so

1537
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: many was asking for that ship. I was I want

1538
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: to ask another one. I'm like, damn, right after this

1539
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: interview with that jersey before for that mother, right now

1540
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: he had them Jersey. I said, Yeah, that was a

1541
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 2: hell of experience.

1542
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 4: That was.

1543
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: That was dope.

1544
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: That was his house was crazy. That's one of the

1545
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: craziest homes I ever been to. I don't still respect him.

1546
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: He's a legend and I'm talking about in the house

1547
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: the rules, No.

1548
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 5: Nigga, don't touch. I can't touch as if he's still there.

1549
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 5: I've never saw that.

1550
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: One nigga be gentle around. That was like, don't shoot

1551
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: on that goal. Like I was like, Damn, they said

1552
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: that they used to hold to I love to meet

1553
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: him like that, but the.

1554
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 5: Same food me. You like, you can't bring no meat,

1555
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 5: no other ship in the crib. They still respect him.

1556
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 5: I never saw nothing like it. Damn, that's not all

1557
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 5: we got. I gotta ask we brought off the jerseys.

1558
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: How does it feel to still see you know what

1559
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people wear your jersey? Because I know,

1560
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: like we always talk about the jerseys like that, like

1561
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: that baby Blue Nuggets, Mellow jersey, but that Number one

1562
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: boy jersey.

1563
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: Man, that's like a hood legend jersey. Like everybody in

1564
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:18,959
Speaker 2: the world.

1565
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: Even you go to the Fright House of the Crazy

1566
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 1: White Boys playing Beer Paul, they got a de bro jersey.

1567
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: How does it feel for that, like to that universal

1568
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: moments like everybody like, no matter where my boy, we

1569
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: fucking with that jersey.

1570
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 5: As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude, appreciative,

1571
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And not to make y'all

1572
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 5: this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally

1573
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 5: got like some humor ship, but.

1574
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 4: Now you bro.

1575
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: Straight, bro straight, some people need to hear.

1576
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, But yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, and that's

1577
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 5: one of the reasons why I think wanted to come

1578
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 5: here and show loveious West Ship. Like I said, for

1579
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 5: sure man. Man, Like I said, we appreciate you, appreciate

1580
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 5: you giving us this moment. Man, It means a life

1581
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: for both sides.

1582
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 6: Man.

1583
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: We can't wait to see what you do next.

1584
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, got the team gonna keep creating, man, We're

1585
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: definitely gonna push and support that.

1586
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here. Be here and tell

1587
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: the people that can grasp some March at.

1588
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: Shop club five twenty dot com Baby the Volume

1589
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:17,840
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