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Speaker 1: Ronanian that wiper motors. You say, well, how complicated could

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Speaker 1: that statement up and agree with that statement. What's there

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Speaker 2: But it's not.

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Speaker 3: I got a nineteen, it got a three hundred.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's way found on the other states the

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Speaker 4: A couple of months ago, I found an unmodified, pilot

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Speaker 4: owned garage kept two thousand and eight Shelby GT. Five

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Speaker 4: hundred Mustang with two thousand miles on it, sitting in

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Speaker 4: an air conditioned garage in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't resist at a BOYD good for you.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, The Car Doctor.

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Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 5: world overturned to for their incative opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: Do orders are opening? But I am here to take

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Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and nah hee.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of places I could start and talk

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Speaker 1: about today as we kick off this hour, Where do

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Speaker 1: I Where do I begin? I think I want to

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Speaker 1: start here because I thought this was an interesting topic.

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Speaker 1: Call it. My buddy at the gym this week sort

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Speaker 1: I said to my you know, you never know, I

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Speaker 4: Call it.

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Speaker 1: I told you I talk about it. He asked me

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Speaker 1: and the question was does he lease, does he buy?

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Speaker 1: You know, leasing versus buying is a big question, and

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Speaker 1: To me, my perspective is, you know, it's just another

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Speaker 1: All good things to talk about. We'll probably talk more

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Speaker 4: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Any and

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Speaker 1: Give Ron a call. Now back to Ron. Hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get over to Jeff in California. Jeff, Welcome to the

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Speaker 4: Well? Thank you, Ron, I am sure appreciate everything you do.

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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: I've learned a lot, thank you from me over the years.

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Speaker 4: I was changing the fuel filters on my twenty f

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Speaker 4: I can hear the fuel pump, right, hear it sound

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Speaker 1: And now what oops?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then I dial ron here I am yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: So it fixed itself somehow.

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Speaker 1: And you want to know why?

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Speaker 4: Yes, please, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the procedure for bleeding and priming

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Speaker 4: No? I just I went to you know, the University

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Speaker 1: You know. And I don't have to tell you, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't sound like a diesel anymore. There's

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Speaker 1: For example, that engine, that system needs about five thousand

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Speaker 4: I do. I have not. It's a hotel. I've used

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, It's a good time to learn, right, Listen.

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Speaker 1: One of the one of the things we all do

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Speaker 4: Now I go under make model.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to go into your make model, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: well let me say it like this. The only way

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Speaker 1: So that's the reason. Now, in a lot of cases

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Speaker 1: show it under another. Jeff, Sit tight, let me pull over.

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Speaker 1: Take this pause. When we come back, pick it up

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Speaker 3: Don't go away, I come a first real sister. Lot

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Speaker 3: Then was the summer of sixteen nine.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back, Ronini in the Car Doctor. We're talking

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Speaker 1: still there, sir, I am so when when you bled this,

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Speaker 1: I commend you for changing the filters. I think that's great.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have a bunch of diesels we work

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Speaker 1: Did you look at that all? Right?

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Speaker 4: Well? I did? I mean, I didn't, you know, send

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Speaker 4: twenty thousand. Yeah, it's and it looked fine. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's your problem here. I just

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean to you open the water separator valve

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Speaker 1: Right, but what do you do? What do you do

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Speaker 1: but this is your livelihood, brother, and let me see

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Speaker 1: if I can just hurt you up a little bit

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Speaker 1: see if what he's trying to do is write. If

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Speaker 1: you follow what I'm saying, you know, knowledge goes a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be awesome, Ron, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. Just shoot it

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Speaker 1: to me, say hey, Ron, it's Jeff from California, and

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Speaker 4: Kiddo, Okay, yeah, it's Jeff, but jss but oh.

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Speaker 1: Jess, Okay, So that's that's tough. Tom's big fingers again.

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Speaker 1: You know he keeps doing that.

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Speaker 4: But thank you so much, you know in that email.

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00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: Now, all right, cool beans, you'd be good, have a

431
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: good rest of the weekend. Jess, thank you, You're welcome.

432
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: Bye Bye.

433
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go on over. Let's go talk to

434
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: John and Tennessee. Let's get started at least John. Welcome

435
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir, how can I help?

436
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: Hey Ron, Hey Tom, thank you for taking my call.

437
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

438
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: What's bought a twenty seventeen Silverado five point three wt

439
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: from like a rental place, you know, like a HRK

440
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: rental tools, and bought it knowing the lifter was collapsed.

441
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Did the AFM delete where you put a new cabin

442
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: at new Springs, et cetera, from a from a racing company,

443
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: had had a tune or tune it. Because I don't

444
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: have all that stuff and I keep getting unbalanced. Bank two,

445
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: not cylinder two, but Bank two. Checked the O two sensors.

446
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: They look alive and well both sides. I haven't slapped

447
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: them yet, and then looked at long term fueld trim

448
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: and short term field trim with a friend scanner. Again,

449
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: I'm looking at old car or broken car. Don't know

450
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: exactly what new car looked like, right, I don't remember

451
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: the numbers, but they didn't seem way out of acting

452
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: the scene above twenty five percent. Okay, So I pulled

453
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: the injectors, resealed them, put on the steels on them,

454
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: and still getting that code. The one thing I do

455
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: question this Every once in a while, I get an

456
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: EVAPP and I smell raw fuel. I'm wondering if there's

457
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: an EVAP system pouring raw feel into it, or do

458
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: I need to start with incheckers. I don't want to

459
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: just pour money.

460
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's not. Let's let's back up a second.

461
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: So of course, the hard part here is, like you said,

462
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: we're looking at a broken car, right, and you know

463
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: what is what does good look like? What does new

464
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: look like?

465
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: You know?

466
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: And not to mention, we're not only looking at a

467
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: broken car, we're looking at a broken modified car. You

468
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: know that we've that.

469
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: We've that's what puts all the delomen.

470
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: In, right, So that's you know, this is like, you know,

471
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: you've got one thousand and fifty dominated carburetor on a

472
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: two eighty three small block and you're sitting there going gee,

473
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: do I really need all this?

474
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: You know?

475
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: So that's that's an issue. Now let's talk about fuel trim.

476
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: Fuel trim's a basic a basic number. All right, let's

477
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: just talk about fuel trim in general. Remember high school

478
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: geometry and algebra where they showed us number lines and

479
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: positive and negative numbers. Ye, so zero's a balanced fuel mixture.

480
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Now you got another car in the house, John.

481
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: I do It's a jeep, but it's not a yeah.

482
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So if it's if that, if that was

483
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: a modern vehicle, it sounds like it's not. But if

484
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: that was a modern vehicle and we were looking at

485
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: fuel trim, zero or balanced fuel trim on that jeep,

486
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: because it's a different engine is going to technically be

487
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: different than what it is on the Silverado. Okay, if

488
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: we follow the theory that an engine is a big

489
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: air pump and you know, volume of air and fuel

490
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: required to operate, it is going to vary from engine

491
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: to engine to engine. Agreed, Yes, okay, so zero zero

492
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: in terms of your Silverado, zero's a balanced fuel mixture.

493
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: If they need to add fuel two based fuel trim,

494
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: you will see a positive number. If they need to

495
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: take fuel away. Under a specific condition, they will make

496
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: it a negative number. If zero row is a balanced

497
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: fuel mixture. And you start your Silverado up and it's

498
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: all warmed up. It's an operating temperature. It's in feedback operation.

499
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: No two sensors are working, it's enclosed loop and all

500
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: the good things. And we see a number of positive

501
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty percent at idle, but it goes away.

502
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: What does that tell you? U's wrong with the vehicle.

503
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: So to me, that sounds like it's running rich and

504
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: there's something something causing it to give too much fuel.

505
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Backwards. Your you're backwards, you're one hundred and eighty out.

506
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: It's okay, listen, it's it's it's okay. I'll tell you what.

507
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: Sit tight, John, let me pull ever take the poise.

508
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll go back to geometry. I'm

509
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: running any in the car. Doctor, we'll return right after this.

510
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Why this car is automatic, it's systematic, it's.

511
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Dramatic.

512
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: What's greased lightning?

513
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Some geez? What's a four barrel car?

514
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

515
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: For the days you're still there, John, Yeah, so was

516
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: one of the fault codes P zero fifty. He isn't, David,

517
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't have.

518
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: It and bring me apologize.

519
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: That's okay.

520
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: The main one. The main one was the unbalanced bank

521
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: to in an evapp And like I said, you'd smell

522
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: like raw fuel with it. Remember looking at the fuel sims.

523
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't again, I apologize I did, and so.

524
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's yeah, that's all. That's okay.

525
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: Brother.

526
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: Listen, you're trying, you know what, anybody that's trying to learn,

527
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always happy to, you know, help them.

528
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: You know what I learned all day long. It's remember

529
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: what Einstein said, if you think you got problems, you

530
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: have to look at mine. Uh, you know, and I

531
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: could imagine, can imagine his research and what he had

532
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to figure out. So no, you know, so basic fuel trim,

533
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: we should see zero plus or minus ten percent at idle,

534
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: all right, standard warmed up engine, healthy engine, all things

535
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: being equal, right, So zero's a balanced fuel mixture. If

536
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: we're adding fuel, it's because it's running lean. If we're

537
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: taking fuel away, it's because it's running rich. So one

538
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: of the things you could do is just where's fuel trim?

539
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: What is it at idle? What is it? You know

540
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: over a pull? You know, drive it up to fifty

541
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: miles an hour. Where does long term and short term

542
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: fuel trim settle? And then you know, when they did

543
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: all this work. I imagine they did a reset, a fuel

544
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: a fuel trim reset, or didn't they. It's a it's

545
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: a question to ask one of the things I did.

546
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: I did the work and then I dropped it off

547
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: at a shop for.

548
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: The for the tune.

549
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you know, do you have a relationship with

550
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: the shop, because I'm wondering if maybe not so much

551
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: for the EVAPP and the raw fuel smell concerns me

552
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: because that tells me there's likely a problem there. But

553
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you can eliminate the roal fuel smell

554
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: problem the EVAPP issue. Basically, what I would do is

555
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: I'd find the purge valve, which I believe comes up

556
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: on the driver's side of the engine. I think the

557
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: purge ove was sitting on the driver's side of the

558
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: intake up high. I would just I would just disconnect

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: the line and cap it all right, electrically electrically disconnect

560
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: the purge. You know, let's let's eliminate purge. We're gonna

561
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: set a fault code for it. But we know why

562
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: it's there, right. Sure, if we if we disconnect the

563
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: purge electrically and mechanically physically, then then if we're still

564
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: smelling fuel right, then we've got a fuel leak somewhere,

565
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: either either in an injector or a rail or something's

566
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: not you know, seated correctly, you know what? And then

567
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: what evapp fault do you have? Do you remember that?

568
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: No? I want to do a writer? Or no?

569
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't ring a bell? Forty one a P zero four

570
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: four two P zero four five six P zero. See

571
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: that's the problem. We're playing with numbers we don't know.

572
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: So let's attack this thing from a mechanical perspective. Let's

573
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: disconnect the purge. What does that do? But let's look

574
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: at fuel trim. Does it change fuel trim? Right? Let's

575
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: let's let's use fuel trim as a diagnostic tool. If

576
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: if fuel trim, if you think it's running rich, you're

577
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: expecting to see what negative numbers on short term fuel

578
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: trim warmed up at idle correct, That's.

579
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Where I was getting it backwards?

580
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 6: So yeah, right, okay, So if it's I if negative

581
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 6: numbers are rich, right, and you disconnect purge and you

582
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: see the fuel trim come up to zero or at

583
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 6: least move You know, if it's negative twenty and now

584
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 6: it's negative ten.

585
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: It's moving right, it's going in the right direction. That

586
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: purge valve is contributing. There's there's something there to that theory,

587
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: that conversation, right. But but if it's not, then we've

588
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: got to sit down and diagnose that number. In the end,

589
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: treat this like a basic mechanical problem. Also, be aware,

590
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: write this down. GM has a piece of information out there,

591
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: it's PIP fifty four to ninety eight L and it

592
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: talks about a bunch of fault codes that you may

593
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: or may not be having p zero fifty D and

594
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: some of the other things that occur because of problems

595
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: with the injectors. This is that generation Silverado that had

596
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: massive injector problems, fuel system imbalance, cold start problems. The

597
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: other thing you can do is go look at freeze

598
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: frame and mode six data and see where does this

599
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: fault occur at what temperature? All right, if it's a

600
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: cold problem, that's going to be different than warm. So

601
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: do this. Get a bunch of this information together, get

602
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: some specific fault codes. Call me back next week and

603
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: we'll dive into this a little bit further and we

604
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: can kind of take it from there. John, I'm running

605
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: ay and the car doctor. I'll be back right after this.

606
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Welcome back from any of the card. Hey, summer's coming.

607
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Did you notice that it's a well summer driving season.

608
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I can tell by the way people are driving that

609
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: they're hoping that it's summer, but it's not quite. So

610
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: that's a that's a conversation for a whole other day.

611
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: So just be aware the roads are getting crazy. But

612
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: you know what made me think about summer. You know,

613
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: summer's right around the corner. Let's go in the shop

614
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: courtesy of AutoZone is this week we had a request

615
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: for some batteries for someone's boat. And yeah, you know,

616
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: we we'll do that. You know, we'll supply some marine

617
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: batteries and you know, we're getting ready for it, getting

618
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the boats ready, right, we're getting ready for summer. Memorial

619
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Day is coming up real quick. And you know it's funny,

620
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: but I hadn't thought of this until Mike presented me

621
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: with a request for three specific batteries for his boat. Well,

622
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: we couldn't get them from our normal supply house where

623
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: we go for marine applications, and I was thinking about it,

624
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: and I said, well, geez, now what do I do.

625
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I got to tell Mike he can't take his boat

626
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: out because he wanted to get it out for the

627
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: weekend to get it ready because, like I said, Memorial

628
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Day is only a short ways away. And then I

629
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: thought of AutoZone and I went out to auto Zone. Now,

630
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: the issue is it's hard to look up parts for

631
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: a boat. You know, you can't go look it up

632
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: for a nineteen eighty five Stingray speedboat whatever, et cetera.

633
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: But I was able to take the part numbers and

634
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: I took Mike's part numbers and I cross referenced it,

635
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: and sure enough, AutoZone had marine application batteries, you know,

636
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: dural ast marine application batteries for this boat. And we

637
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: got three of those, and you know, AutoZone in the shop.

638
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Once again, they do their thing and they came to

639
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: the rescue. So you can find out more online at

640
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: AutoZone dot com or AutoZone pro dot com. But if

641
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: you're looking to go boating and you can't find batteries

642
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: where you normally would think a photo zone, think of AutoZone,

643
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: think of durallest till the next time. I'm ronning Andy

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Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with me this hour, and I hope you had

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Speaker 1: some fun and you learned something I did. I always do,

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Speaker 1: and I enjoy spending time together with you till the

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Speaker 1: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See ya,

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Speaker 1: Si