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Speaker 1: Hello, no, no, no, no, Welcome to the naughty but

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Speaker 1: nice Hey strad Shooter. It's Friday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Cory Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, A you know

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Speaker 1: I am here.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Happy Friday, everyone.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing you on TV. I've seen you on

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Speaker 1: Merrick TV, Doctor Phil's Noon Network. I think I've seen

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Speaker 1: you on News Nation. To Corey, it's great. You're so

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Speaker 1: good at it. Do you enjoy doing it?

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy doing it. And you know, this show

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Speaker 2: has been such a wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Training ground for me. If you will, you know it's

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Speaker 3: been wonderful. You've been wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And now some of these great news programs are calling

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Speaker 2: me directly to just come on and give my opinion

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Speaker 1: Imagine that it's so wild, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? A lot great.

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Speaker 1: For a very long time, nobody including me, really cared

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Speaker 1: about my opinion, and I had to learn that my

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Speaker 1: opinion does matter and I am expert in this. But

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Speaker 1: it is wild. The first few times when you get

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Speaker 1: asked to come on TV and give your opinion, I

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Speaker 1: always want to say to these bookers, why do you care? Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you care what I think that I don't

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Speaker 1: say that, don't say you just say that, But it

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Speaker 1: just shows you. We're all full, or at least partially

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Speaker 1: full of self doubt. All of us have self doubt.

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Speaker 1: I have doubt when I do it. But the secret

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Speaker 1: is to push that to one side and just do it.

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Speaker 1: Just do it. I say all the time. Your knees

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Speaker 1: tremble a lot, but I don't let on. I walk

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Speaker 1: like I'm a peacock. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends? It is tea time

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Speaker 1: take story at the top of the show, and a

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Speaker 1: very interesting one. Camilla Cabello, who I really really like.

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Speaker 1: I've met her several She hit the stage to a

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Speaker 1: near empty arena. Now some fans are saying this is

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Speaker 1: brilliant that she still did a show. All those people

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Speaker 1: We've been looking forward to this show and we don't

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Speaker 1: she should have canceled. Let me explain. So the pop

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Speaker 1: star found herself in the spotlight for all the wrong

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Viral photographs really really sparked this entire debate,

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Speaker 1: let me explain here. I've worked with a lot of

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, if the manager had done a

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Speaker 1: not that level of celebrity and this can happen many,

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Speaker 1: her at the time, she said it was because of

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Speaker 1: think this is Camilica Bello's fault. I would blame her manager.

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Speaker 1: it gets very complicated. If you sell out a huge venue,

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Speaker 1: If I said that, they're like, how do you know, Rob,

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Speaker 1: You're being so negative, And I'm like, you're being too

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a show Corey that is

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Speaker 3: Well, the best thing about my insight here is that

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Speaker 3: I've experienced it from the perspective of Camilla. Okay, years ago,

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Speaker 3: went to Petown during our tour. Provincetown a big game mecha,

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Speaker 2: So we go there and we promote the hell out

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Speaker 3: And I opened up to like eight people in a

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Speaker 3: I am with Camilla Girl. You perform for the cleaning Lady.

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Speaker 3: it's your integrity as a performer.

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Speaker 1: She just wasn't gonna sell these venues. And it became

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Speaker 1: the day. Camilla Cabello performed to a nearly empty arena.

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Speaker 1: Should she have canceled? Some people say yes, some people

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Speaker 1: on Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey, what are

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Biebers are in the news.

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Speaker 3: Hailey Bieber, She's hitting back at rumors with her Missus

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Speaker 3: So basically a twenty seven year old, she is subtly,

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Speaker 3: subtly clapping back at these swirling rumors about her marriage

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Speaker 3: and buy it. And this bold statement comes just one

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Speaker 3: day after Justin claimed his Instagram account was hacked because

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Speaker 3: fans noticed he had unfollowed Haley's account. He had unfollowed

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Speaker 3: to further shut down speculation, she shared, Haley shared an

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Speaker 2: From unfriending me on Instagram sometimes, So I mean.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't mean they're getting a divorce, even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I find this slightly annoying. I spoke to my

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Speaker 1: That's that's what this is. And instead of being on brather,

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Speaker 1: little bit like they're playing with us. And I do

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Speaker 1: think too. If you want to stop speculation about your marriage,

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Speaker 1: get off social media, just get off it public. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stop talking about it. The more you talk about it,

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Speaker 1: the more suspicious I get. So I do know here

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Speaker 1: that Justin has been quite honest about his mental health struggle.

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Speaker 1: So that makes me a little bit nervous. But people

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Speaker 1: cute drives me mad. It's like friends on Facebook who right,

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Speaker 1: big announcement coming, Oh yeah, but I can't tell you,

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Speaker 1: then don't tell me.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't tell me. Yeah, don't don't tell me you're ready.

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Speaker 3: To tell me, Or those couples who profess their love

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Speaker 3: Yes, but this is a very sweet story because we

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob and

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