1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free on numbers eight 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: hundred and nine to four one Sean, if you want 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. By the way, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: we are in the swamp. We're in DC. Secretary of 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio tonight, the Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight, 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham together. That ought to be entertaining, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: but a lot happening here as we speak. So we 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: have an update on the Komi situation. And you know, 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: I get asked this all the time. Hannity has spent 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: years you unpeeled every layer of the onion. You exposed, 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, the double standard in our justice system, and 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: how deep state actors put cinderblocks on the scales of 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: an election, and how faiza warrants were used, and they 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: were all the basis of those warrants were a dirty 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation dossier bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: And then you know we've talked about cash PTTEL from 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the year twenty fifteen to the year twenty twenty four, 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the election. You know all that has happened. Is this 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: a grand conspiracy? Because a lot of you get frustrated, Well, 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: we exposed all of this corruption, and nobody ever gets 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: held accountable. One of the biggest problems is we have 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: written into our laws the Statutes of Limitations, and unfortunately 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: the Statute of Limitations in the subsequent years when Biden 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: was president, they were never held accountable. And you know, 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: we've discovered you know, not only woere we right, as 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan always says, we were more right than we 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: ever knew we were. We were right about Hunter's laptop. 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: We were right about you know, pre bunking it by 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: the FBI. We were we were right about you know 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the use of and the weaponization of the DOJ and 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: law fair. But let's go back to twenty sixteen. One 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: guy's life was ruined. His name is Carter Page, a 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: great guy who's actually a real patriot, who traveled the 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: world and came back and would BRIEFE three letter agencies 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: about what he learned, putting his life at risk and 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: doing so. Here's John Durham talking about Carter Page and 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: his PISA warrant. 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Several of the relevant PISA applications at issue in the 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Crossfire investigation omitted references to what was clearly relevant and 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: highly exculpatory information that should have been disclosed to the 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: PISA cord. Multiple FBI personnel who signed or assisted in 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: preparing renewal applications for that same PISA Warren acknowledged that 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: they did not believe that the target, mister Page, was 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: a threat to national security, much less a knowing agent 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: of a foreign power, which is what the law requires. 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: It appears from our investigation that the FBI leadership dismissed 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: those concerns. 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Now we heard about James call Me and the fact 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: that James call Me's you know, the charges were dropped 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: against him. There's news out today that he is likely 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: to be re indicted, maybe as early as this week. 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: What John Dourham is saying there is that Carter Page 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: the PAISA warrant omitted exculpatory evidence. James Call Me himself 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: signed three of the four PISA warrants, yet they had 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: gotten rid of you know, Christopher Steele, who put together 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: the Dirty Russian dossier by December of twenty sixteen, so 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: he signed two of the three, knowing damn well that 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: it should never have been relied on, and by lawd 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: an obligation to go back to the court and tell 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: them the information presented to them to secure that warrant 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: was false and did not include exculpatory evidence. And Dorm 62 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: further went on to say this was there was not 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: a legitimate basis to open Crossfire Hurricane as a full investigation. Anyway, 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Carter Page joins us, Now, I imagine you know when people 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: say to me, why weren't they held accountable? I know 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: why they weren't held accountable. Democrats protected them. But that 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: doesn't give you your life back, does it. 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: No, Sean, And it also doesn't give us our legal 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: system back. But despite all the great work that Director 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Cash Pttel has been doing, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and 71 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, so many members of Congress have been pushing 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: for I mean, these headwinds just continue over and over again. 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: So really appreciate everything that you've done, as you say, 74 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: to expose this from the very beginning, and the you know, 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: many many people you know on our side. But it's 76 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: just been a huge headwind and it's disappointing about that 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: preliminary step backwards. But I'm cautiously optimistic that, as you're saying, 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: maybe there's there's some solutions going forward which which our 79 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: country desperately needs for a lot of reasons. 80 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of big developments. One is the 81 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: declassified information we got from Tulca Gabbard, which was very 82 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: revealing because we had seen your career intel officials ascertain 83 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: after the twenty sixth election that there was no Trump 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. It never existed. We also now the burn 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: bags that were never burned. You know, we even have 86 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: handwritten notes that are seen pretty damning on paper of 87 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: James Comey himself what he knew when he knew it. 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: All this new evidence has emerged. You know, a grand 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: conspiracy is a very big, you know, hill to climb 90 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: in all of this. You know, I don't take any 91 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: satisfaction in being right and yet just as not being served. 92 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, Ray Donovan famously said in the Reagan years, 93 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: where do I go to get my good name back? 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: After he was smeared for years? In many ways, you 95 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: live through. 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: That absolutely, Sean, And you know, I think director Patel 97 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: has made some very good points in terms of, you know, 98 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: specific to those burn bags and some of the potential 99 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: steps for it. He's talking about more investigations, future public trials, 100 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: and then disclosure to Congress. Unfortunately, you know, those public 101 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: trials have been a bit of a sham, going back 102 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: to our initial conversations nearly eight years ago when the 103 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: you know, when they were just starting to with then 104 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: House Intelligence Committee staffer Cash Betel helping Devin Nunez with 105 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: some of the preliminary investigations, and you know, as you're 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: correctly noting, it's just keeps getting worse and worse. So, 107 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: you know, on the one hand, we're very fortunate you 108 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: you know, you wrote a great you did great research 109 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: on this. Your your book Lived for Your Die was 110 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, several chapters really dug into that in a 111 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: way that helped to move the ball forward. But there's 112 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: a long way that we need to keep going, and unfortunately, 113 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: the ripple effects in many directions keep having really a 114 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: serious impact on our country, and a lot needs to 115 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: be done to resolve this. 116 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: The sad thing is is even if Kmy is re 117 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: indicted the charges lying to Congress, yeah, it does have 118 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: a severe penalty. Yeah, I'm glad something is going to happen, 119 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: But on the bigger issues that involved and hurt you 120 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: in your life. On those bigger issues, unless there's a 121 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: grand conspiracy investigation. He will never be held accountable for 122 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: what he and other deep state actors did. I do 123 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: believe that there's an injustice there. And that's when people 124 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: ask me, how come why why didn't anything happen. I 125 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: can tell you why, because again Democrats protected them. But 126 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, what is the latest with you? Because I 127 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: do believe you have civil recourse, don't you. 128 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, I've had civil recourse which I initially filed in 129 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: November of twenty twenty, you know, in the final months, 130 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: and you interviewed for Attorney General Bill Barr a number 131 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: of times trying to get to the bottom of this, 132 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, what I've learned is, you know, him and 133 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: certain people within the d o J in the president's 134 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: first term, we're really looking to kind of sweep that 135 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: under the under the carpet. And so I have been 136 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: litigating for over over five years now, and uh, it 137 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: got thrown out in the trial court in d C. 138 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: You know, standard DC swamp court procedures, and then I 139 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: had a similar problem earlier this year in the d 140 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: C circuit. But we're we're just keeping continuing to do 141 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 3: the best that we can. And I have one of 142 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: the top legal teams in America, the law firms share 143 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: Jaffie and they've just done incredible work, and so that 144 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: that to me is the biggest thing. Then they're they're 145 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: working on a filing with the Supreme Court, and hopefully 146 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court has made some important steps forward in 147 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: terms of reforming our legal system. And I remain cautiously 148 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: optimistic that perhaps there's a possibility there. But I think, 149 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: you know, the original collusion between a lot of those 150 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: bad actors that you were helpful and exposing throughout so 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: many years, and the collusion between them and the you know, 152 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: some of the staffers within the president's first term in office. 153 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: They're in the forty five administration, that remained a big headwind. 154 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: But we're fighting as hard as possible uphill to try 155 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: to get that those severe injustices against the President, myself 156 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: and so many others overturned in a proper legal context. 157 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, I definitely want to see past Bettel's promise that 158 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: he will reveal all that are in the burn bags. 159 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: But I do want people to know something about you, 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: and I got to know you over the years and 161 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: become very fond of you. Not only did you travel 162 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: abroad took countries like Russia and others, but every time 163 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: you did our government, you did it with our government's blessing. 164 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: And at any point what I'm saying is factually wrong, 165 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: correct me. And when you would come back from these countries, 166 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: you would sit down with people at big three letter 167 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: agencies and they would debrief you, and as a patriotic American, 168 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: you would tell them anything that they wanted to know. 169 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: And I assume it probably even went a little deeper 170 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: than that. You probably did certain things that they asked 171 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: you to do. But I don't want you to reveal 172 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: anything that you feel uncomfortable revealing. 173 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know there are severe costs 174 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: for that, Sean, I think as you're correctly alluding to. 175 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: And again I just bear in mind so many of 176 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 3: the similar costs that our president and so many in 177 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: his movement have faced, whether it's General Flynn or so 178 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: many others, Doctor Johnny Stint who helped me in one 179 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: of my prior cases. It's just been a huge uphill battle. 180 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: But again, we keep doing the absolute best we can, 181 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: and you know, on many levels, not only in the 182 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: judicial context, but you know, trying to I think it 183 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: goes well beyond. I think, as we see with the 184 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: important negotiations that I'm sure you'll get into with Secretary 185 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: of Rubio in terms of the ongoing Russia deal, the 186 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: President's absolutely right that those you know, so many of 187 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: those headwinds President put then suffered alongside President Trump and 188 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: so many of us with this complete Russia hoax, as 189 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: the President has correctly noted time and time again. So 190 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: there really is you know, despite any you know, severe 191 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: damage or complete destruction in my life, I always bear 192 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: in mind the bigger impact it's had for our country, 193 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: and you know, the incredibly important need to reform this 194 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: and start heading in a much better direction right now. 195 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of things that we can specifically 196 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: do to keep pushing that ball forward. So I remained 197 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: cautiously optimistic and we'll do everything I possibly can. 198 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: How's this impacted your life in terms of how you 199 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: live it? I mean I look at people like you, John, 200 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Paul mac Isaac, this computer repair man. I mean, if 201 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: you go in the arena, you expect to get hit. 202 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: This is not a life you chose for yourself. Your 203 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: life has been turned upside down. What do you do now? 204 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: It's interesting you asked that question. Sean could because I started, 205 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: you know, similar when we started talking about you know, 206 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: seven or eight years ago, I was starting to study 207 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: the law, and you know, I was just on one hand, 208 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 3: trying to dig deep to try to help solve these problems, 209 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 3: working with a lot of top attorneys, including some of 210 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: the ones that I just mentioned going back many years. 211 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: But I was also studying, and so I did a 212 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: law degree in the uk an LM program over there, 213 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: kind of trying to dig into the you know, the 214 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: Steele dossier and all the abuses where you know, the 215 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: president and his administration have had such huge headwinds and 216 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: so many civil rights violations. And then I did a 217 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: law degree at at Fordham Law School in New York City, 218 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: and Jeff, last month I passed the or I was 219 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: notified that I passed the Summer Bar exam for the 220 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: Texas Bar. So I'm now an attorney. And even though 221 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: this was not the life I designed, Uh, it's I 222 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: want to, you know, with all the huge headwinds that 223 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: are Attorney General Bondie and those members of Congress, the 224 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: other great attorneys you mentioned, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, 225 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: you know, in their leadership in Congress. I'm trying to 226 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: do everything possible to help reform our legal system. So 227 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: a big shift of direction. But you know, again, I 228 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: think there are some glimmers of hope on the horizon 229 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: despite all this extreme destruction to our country in international security. 230 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: So if there's anything we could ever do to help, 231 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: please let us know. We hope you'll come back often. 232 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Carter Page. We appreciate the update. We're not giving up. 233 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: We're going to stay on the case. Reports today that 234 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: that in fact COMI may be reindicted as early as 235 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: this week. We're following and monitoring that hour by hour. 236 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Thanks sir for your time. Always appreciate you being with us. 237 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Sean for everything. 238 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Alright, twenty five now to the top of the hour. 239 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine four one. Sean our number if you 240 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. We're in Washington, DC. 241 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: We're in the swamp. Excited about my interview. I have 242 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. We also have the 243 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Attorney General, tam Bondi. Tonight there's a big cabinet meeting 244 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: with President in Trump today. We're going to play a 245 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of that coming up in the last hour of 246 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: the program. Uh, it was wild today. I mean they 247 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: they went over hardcore everything up and down, which was 248 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: a nice reset. It was almost like, Okay, we've done 249 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: all of this, and the media just all they want 250 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: to do is focus on the negative because that's who 251 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: they are, and they can't help themselves. I think one 252 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: of the funniest moments is when President Trump said, you know, 253 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: if I'm gone a single day, a single day, you 254 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: people think, oh my god, he's dying, Oh my god, 255 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: he's not available. The actual transcript of it was pretty simple. 256 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: It goes like this, he goes. You know, you always 257 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: find something new, like is he in good health? Biden 258 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: was great, you know, but is Trump in good health? 259 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: Biden? 260 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: They never saw this man. 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And if I go one day, I 270 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: had one day where I didn't do a news conference. 271 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh there must be something wrong with President Trump. You 272 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: people he says are crazy. They are, They're Craig Craig crazy. 273 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm sharper than I was twenty five years ago. 274 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: But who the hell knows? You know, only Trump could 275 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: do that. We're going to talk about the loony left 276 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: here in just a second. Listen, when a job site 277 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: gets loud, holiday deadlines get tighter, and you need a 278 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: line of communication that will never quit. 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If you like, if you like 306 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: walkie talkies as a kid, think of it as industrial 307 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: strength that goes all the way across the country. It's cool, 308 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: all right, So the looney left is out there in droves. 309 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 4: Uh. 310 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: We have been talking about and I'm gonna remind everybody 311 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee, you have a candidate, a left wing 312 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: radical of all radicals running out there that is a lunatic. 313 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: It's it would be the Mamdani of Nashville. It would 314 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: be the AOC of Nashville. Her background her job community 315 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: organizer inspired by Saul Alinsky's Rule for Rules for Radicals, 316 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: also known as a trans organizer and activist. She said 317 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: that she hates this that the actual city that she 318 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: would be representing, Nashville, it actually runs from Kentucky all 319 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: the way down to Alabama. This district, you know, one 320 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: of these, I guess Jerrymander districts. She hates her home city. 321 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: She hates country music. Listen to what she said. 322 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 5: They've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because 323 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: I hate the city. I hate the bachelorettes, I hate 324 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 5: the pedal taverns, I hate. 325 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 6: Country music, I hate all of the things. 326 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: That make Nashville. 327 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 6: Fairly it hates city to the rest of the country, 328 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 6: but I hate it. 329 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: She talks about how prayer makes her uncomfortable listen, and. 330 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 5: I think you know, especially as someone who is more secular, 331 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 5: I have a hard time when religion is at the 332 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: core of everything we do in the legislature. And so, 333 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: for example, on the House floor we say a prayer 334 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 5: every session. Some committees open up with prayer. We also 335 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: stand for the Pledge, and there are also prayer groups 336 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: in the legislature that meet routinely. There are Christian pastors 337 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 5: that have a lot of say and proximity to power 338 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: in the legislature and dictate a lot of what the 339 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 5: power players do, and it is uncomfortable. 340 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: She wants to defund the Nashville Police Department completely. She 341 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: once said rioting is a way for people to express themselves. 342 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: She once tweeted out, good morning, especially to the fifty 343 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: four percent of Americans that believe burning down a police 344 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: station is justified. This is a lunatic. She's running against 345 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: a veteran, a hero by the name of Matt van EPs, 346 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: who was on the program yesterday. Here's what I want 347 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: you to know. This seat is critical. It's not just 348 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: critical for Nashville, it's critical for the country. If you 349 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: are in Nashville, you're listening to WLAC, or if you're 350 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: listening to any one of our other great Nashville affiliates. 351 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Please we cover Tennessee. Please assume that your vote will 352 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: be the determining vote in the outcome of this election. Today. 353 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: I hope by nine pm the race will already have 354 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: been called for Matt Van Epps. Don't let this lunatic 355 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: Mamdannie of Nashville get elected anyway. Here to weigh in 356 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: on this and more, Tim Rice, DC Bureau Chief Daily Wire. 357 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Catalina Lafas with us and she is a political commentator, 358 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: author of a soon to be released book, Time to Choose, 359 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: and currently apparently running for Congress. Welcome both of you 360 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: to the program. Thank you both all right. So, Catalina, 361 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: how do you run for a district where you in Nashville, Tennessee, 362 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: music city, USA, and you hate country music and you 363 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: hate the city. How is that possible? How did somebody 364 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: this more to the left of Mamdani. I never thought 365 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: that was you do it because. 366 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: You want to be there for yourself, not for the constituents. 367 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: Often does not represent anything that that district stands for. 368 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 6: We know what the last community organizer did. Look at 369 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: what we got with Obama. You know this woman has 370 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: never had a real job. That comment that she hates 371 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 6: everything about Tennessee. You know, she doesn't represent the district. 372 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 6: And Congress is supposed to be a body of servant leadership, 373 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 6: people who match the district from values, and that's just 374 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 6: not what this woman is. And it's detrimental not only 375 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: to the state, but also look at what the Democratic Party. 376 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: Look at the type of candidates that they're running. I mean, 377 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 6: this is ridiculous. But to your point too, Sean, it 378 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 6: comes down to voter turnout. Republicans must come out. They 379 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 6: must vote for Matt Vanups. You know, I had the 380 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 6: honored meeting him not long ago. He's a true servant leader. 381 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 6: He does reflect the values of the district, both from 382 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: an economic perspective but also culturally. And he's going to 383 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: work hard for the people of Tennessee seven. And I 384 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: hope Republicans get out and vote for him. 385 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Tim Reyce Bureau Chief Daily Wire and all this is 386 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: stuff you cover every day, you know, Is this now 387 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: the new Democratic Party radicalized even in Nashville, Tennessee? 388 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Sean, I think it is. I mean, you know, 389 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: Barack Obama and his ill destroyed the leadership class of 390 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party because, like Catalina said, Barack Obama was 391 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: all about him. I am the change right. So he 392 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: absolutely decimated the Democratic Parties backbench, which meant that once 393 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: he was out of office, the Democratic Party ceded leadership 394 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: to just the left more broadly. And the problem with 395 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: the left is they don't really believe in anything. Sure, 396 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: they have policies, you know, they believe quote unquote in 397 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: universal health care or DEEI or defunding the police, but 398 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 4: they don't have values. They don't have higher standards. As 399 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 4: Acton Bane said, she mocks it, She mocked prayer, She 400 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: mocks people that have, you know, patriotic feelings, she mocks 401 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: people that love their homes. And so the only way 402 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: to ascend on the left, the only way to win election, 403 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: the only way to become popular is to become more 404 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: radically to the left than the person who came before you. 405 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: And this this has been going on for a long time. 406 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 4: It's been going on at least since Obama, just the 407 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: White House. So we're really seeing it this year. And 408 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: of course, you know, Mamdanie was a good example. The 409 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: fact that he was the mayor of New York City 410 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: is going to be the mayor of New York City. 411 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: I think blunted the reality a little bit because you know, 412 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 4: it's somewhat less shocking that a radical got elected in 413 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: New York, a city full of radicals. But yeah, this 414 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. There's no there's no The 415 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: Democratic Party has lost control. There are no leaders. They're 416 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: desperate for a leader. And these are the people that 417 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: are coming out, the people who are who are ego 418 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 4: maniacal enough to get out there, the people who have 419 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: these access to grind, who admittedly hate the districts they 420 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: want to represent. They're not in it to serve and represent. 421 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 4: They're in it to change and punish and elevate themselves. 422 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: Quick break more on the lunatic left as we continue, 423 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: were in our Nation's Capital. Don't forget Secretary of State 424 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Senators Lindsey Graham, Ted 425 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: Cruz together, and a couple of surprises. Quick break right 426 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: back from our Nation's Capital. 427 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 3: Up next, our final roundup and information Overload hour. 428 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: I will continue our final moments with Tim Rice Catalina 429 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Loff eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on 430 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: number will also play the President's Cabinet meeting from earlier. 431 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Today is last of the year. Let me play for 432 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: you both. So Luigi Mangioni, the guy accused of assassinating 433 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: from behind the CEO of United Healthcare. I don't know 434 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: what this obsession is. I can't explain it. But apparently 435 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: he's got tons and tons of admirers, and he's getting 436 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: thousands of letters from female admirers that would like to 437 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: date him and marry him. And it's just bizarre to me. 438 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: Not exactly a great catch in my eyes, But what 439 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: do I know. I think the evidence seems overwhelming and incontrovertible. 440 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: We'll see in the end. I don't think it matters 441 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: what he told the prison guard, whether that's admissible or not. 442 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: I think the videotape will be pretty damn compelling itself 443 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: of him in this particular case. But what's odd and 444 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: what's strange is so he's at this court hearing yesterday 445 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: and his supporters show up. These lunatics that love Luigi 446 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: show up, including furries. If anyone, by the way, you 447 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: can call in and tell me what a furry is 448 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: and to find it, and I would really appreciate the Enlightenment, 449 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: because I have no earthly idea what it is. Anyway, 450 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: here are some of the lunatics that showed up outside 451 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: the courtroom. 452 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 7: Well as somebody who struggles with mental health issues. I think, 453 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: you know, having free health care is a priority that 454 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 7: this nation should have. And I've been getting a lot 455 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 7: of hate from people online, calling me mentally ill. 456 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 8: If this person's rights can be suspended in a time 457 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 8: of climbing fascism, anyone's rights can be suspended. 458 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 7: He completely dismantled the whole healthcare system by exposing a 459 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 7: corrupt CEO. 460 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 8: Absolutely believe that he's innocent. I completely believe that he's innocent, 461 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 8: that he's a patsy that's being used in this moment 462 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 8: where capitalism, capitalism is under attacked. They're using this person 463 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 8: and they're victimizing him. 464 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 7: You know who killed more people, Osama bin laden Us 465 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 7: or Brian Thompson. Probably probably the same number of people 466 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 7: was killed. 467 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: The death penalty is a violation of human rights. 468 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 7: I don't condone murder at all. I think it's terrible, 469 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 7: but in Luigi's case, I feel like it was necessary. 470 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 6: So while he died on a don't condone violence. 471 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 8: There are other people who he calls the dead up 472 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 8: in denying them. 473 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Hell, ca you all right, Tim, I'll ask you first, 474 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Could you explain this phenomenon to me? Of these people 475 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with this guy accused of assassinating in cold blood 476 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the CEO. 477 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: I really can't. I can't understand it, and I've spent 478 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: a lot I'm a healthcare guy, so I've spent a 479 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: lot of time trying to understand this because I do 480 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: think that you know, the fact that so many people 481 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: see him as a hero for as fascinating an insurance executive, 482 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 4: well you know what otherwise would seem a pretty but 483 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: not not that you know, any assassination is that? But 484 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: it's not. You know, he wasn't a controversial world leader. 485 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: Brian Thompson was a he was a suit right, he 486 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: was a corporate exec. So I really do think that 487 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: it's just this weird healthcare is one of the weirdest 488 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: things that democrats and leftists have sets over, and you 489 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: hear it in some of those comments. You know, first 490 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: of all, obviously Medicare for all or universal health care 491 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: is not worth killing or dying over. Right, Very few 492 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: things are worth dying over, even fewer things are worth 493 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: killing over health insurance. Your perferred kind of health insurance 494 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: is not it. But the thing that's even crazier to 495 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: me is that, you know, they all talk about capitalism 496 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: and we need universal health care. It's the capitalistic parts 497 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: of America's healthcare systems are the ones that work. Right. 498 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: It's the it's the socialist parts. It's Obamacare. The individual 499 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: is the Obamacare mandates. It's Medicaid and expanding Medicaid to 500 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: populations that shouldn't have it and allowing fraud. It's just 501 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: pushed for state sponsored healthcare. 502 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: No, it cracks me up. The Affordable Care Act is 503 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: not so affordable in eight subsidies it was, you know anyway, 504 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: last word, Catalina, we'll give it to you. 505 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is sick. This is the type of cultural 506 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: and moral rat that we've seen in our culture. You know, 507 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 6: thirty forty years ago, an assassination in any form was 508 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 6: universally not acceptable, no matter what their ideology was. But 509 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 6: this is where we're at, and it just shows us 510 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 6: that it all starts at home. You know, these no 511 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 6: matter what the ideology is, the fact that these people 512 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 6: are cheering on an assassin, and especially somebody like Brian 513 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 6: Thompson who was senselessly murdered. You know, the the fact 514 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 6: that those in that narrative is now the norm. If 515 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: we don't take the narrative back, think about what will 516 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 6: be acceptable thirty forty years from now. And it really 517 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 6: starts at home, it starts in the classrooms. We need 518 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 6: to take back our culture and our morality in this country. 519 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate both of you, thanks for being with us. 520 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. I mean, I'd love to marry 521 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Luigi Mangioni. I'd love to bear his children. That is 522 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: pretty sick, pretty bizarre. I don't conn murder, but this 523 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: one was justified. Why it's bizarre, it's scary. Actually, it's chilling.