Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea.
Speaker 2: Hi, he just had beautiful three days of skiing love Doug.
Speaker 1: Doug is in doggy daycare.
Speaker 2: My friend told me about this dog walker and she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's great. I send my dog once a week. And
Speaker 2: so the dog walker came over to my house and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, how many days are possible? She's like, we do
Speaker 1: it seven days a week.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll take five. He needs a lot of
Speaker 2: fucking exercise, this dog. And he is such a moose.
Speaker 2: He's like my sister said, it's a cross.
Speaker 1: Between a gorilla and I. I was a lion.
Speaker 3: I've got a lions, like a full lions man.
Speaker 1: I know, he's so funny looking. Oh my god. So
Speaker 1: now I'm training him. I am training him.
Speaker 2: I have a parenting coach, I have a dog walker,
Speaker 2: and I'm also taking parenting classes with my friend for
Speaker 2: her kids.
Speaker 1: It takes a village, Chelsea. So I am literally deep in.
Speaker 2: I don't know what has happened in my life, but
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot and a lot of really good
Speaker 2: stuff about parenting in case I ever have to parent
Speaker 2: a vagabond, which apparently I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the thing is a tired dog is
Speaker 3: a good dog, so getting him in playdates and everything,
Speaker 3: that's perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very friendly.
Speaker 2: She said, he's very She sent me a text to
Speaker 2: dog Walker and she said he is one of the
Speaker 2: most compassionate, compassionate, caring dogs I've ever met. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: what a funny thing to say about a dog compassionate?
Speaker 2: How did he just demonstrate that compassion.
Speaker 1: Whose soul is in him? He must be an old
Speaker 1: time I don't know. Maybe it's my mom. She's got No,
Speaker 1: it's definitely not my mom. She wouldn't be like that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's pretty cute and Bertice is really perking up.
Speaker 2: She tries to play with him and then she like
Speaker 2: barks at him, and it's pretty cute.
Speaker 1: They have a nice relationship and it'll keep changing too.
Speaker 3: It's like they say, like the first three days the
Speaker 3: dog is like adjusting. The first three weeks, they're like
Speaker 3: getting to know whoever else is in the house. In
Speaker 3: the first three months, like after three months they're sort
Speaker 3: of like in the home. And you know, even today,
Speaker 3: like Mimsy and Wendell are like snuggling and they just
Speaker 3: started doing that.
Speaker 1: This week and it's just lovely. That is cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I had a full house this weekend
Speaker 2: in Whistler. I had about nine people sleeping out my house,
Speaker 2: and my house doesn't really fit nine people, so it
Speaker 2: was close quarters and fun and a lot of my
Speaker 2: friends I have just kid It's like a daycare here.
Speaker 2: There's just kids running through my house all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: But you love a.
Speaker 3: Teenager, and you know what, teenagers I think love you too,
Speaker 3: because you're not afraid to talk about this stuff like
Speaker 3: their parents won't talk about with them anyway.
Speaker 2: So I have shows this weekend, That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I have a show tonight in Saskatoon, so I'm heading
Speaker 2: out soon. And then I have a show tomorrow night
Speaker 2: in Winnipeg, Canada. And then we added another Sydney show,
Speaker 2: we added another Vancouver show Awesome, and we're adding a
Speaker 2: bunch of shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Los Angeles has floated away over the last several days.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening over here. Was it really bad?
Speaker 3: The river at the La River is like a monster.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and apparently a lot of parts in the
Speaker 3: valley are totally flooded.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't know it. It would rain for
Speaker 2: a week last week, so there was no skiing here.
Speaker 2: Now it's sunny, but it's like an ad for climate change.
Speaker 2: The mountain it's so bear and you're like, I mean,
Speaker 2: you can ski, but it's like it's not what it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a bummer. Anyway.
Speaker 2: We have a very funny guest on the show today.
Speaker 2: She's a comedian. She's a hot mess. I met her
Speaker 2: on Instagram as I meet all my young lovers, and
Speaker 2: you should follow her because she does a really good
Speaker 2: impersonation of Chris Jenner. That's how I first found her.
Speaker 2: But she does a lot of impersonations. Her name is
Speaker 2: Anna Roysman. Hi, Anna, Hi, Where are you Anna?
Speaker 4: I'm in New York.
Speaker 1: Oh is this where you hail from New York?
Speaker 5: I hail from Philadelphia, but yeah, I'm in New York mostly.
Speaker 2: Right now, Catherine, I don't know if you're familiar with
Speaker 2: Anna and in the way that I am, but I
Speaker 2: found her. I discovered her because she does these ridiculous
Speaker 2: impersonations of the Kardashians. Ye, well, of Chris Well, Chris
Speaker 2: really Jenna, right, is the one that from the Kardashians
Speaker 2: do you do all of them or do you just Chris.
Speaker 5: I just do Chris. I could probably do the other ones.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well you do a lot of you do
Speaker 2: Steve from Sex and the City do a lot of
Speaker 2: other impersonations too. But what caught my eye was the
Speaker 2: Chris jenneral one because I forwarded it to Chris Jenner.
Speaker 1: I was like, have you seen this fucking girl? You
Speaker 1: look like an asshole?
Speaker 4: I died.
Speaker 5: I know, I flew across the country as her, which
Speaker 5: was psychotic.
Speaker 2: That's really really funny. But you do a great impersonation.
Speaker 2: And I like any impersonations of all the because there's
Speaker 2: so many TikTok Instagram impersonations of all the Kardashians and
Speaker 2: some are obviously cream of the crop.
Speaker 1: So kudos to you, Anna, And I know you're a comedian.
Speaker 1: I saw you at my one of my shows at
Speaker 1: the Beacond.
Speaker 4: We met there, yes, which was so fun. I was
Speaker 4: a killer show.
Speaker 1: Ah, thank you.
Speaker 2: So you're a comic and I'm just learning about you
Speaker 2: and I want to learn more about you.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 5: First of all, I'm so honored to be on here,
Speaker 5: and I just have to say when you shared that
Speaker 5: Chris Jenner video.
Speaker 4: Last year, I.
Speaker 5: Was in like my darkest time ever and I literally
Speaker 5: said to my Boyfri and I'm gonna I'm gonna just
Speaker 5: i wanna go to the airport as Chris.
Speaker 4: Like she would never fly a commercial. This will be
Speaker 4: so funny.
Speaker 5: And then I obviously thought I'd do it for like
Speaker 5: twenty minutes, and I stayed in it the whole flight.
Speaker 5: And then you shared it and I was like it
Speaker 5: was worth it.
Speaker 4: He wanted to kill me. We're like on the plane
Speaker 4: and I'm wigged and I'm like, excuse me, I have to.
Speaker 5: Go to the bathroom. Like I'm like walking down the aisles.
Speaker 5: And when you shared it, I was like I cried.
Speaker 5: I was just like, oh my god. So many people
Speaker 5: were so nice to me. They were like, I don't
Speaker 5: know you did this, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: So thank you. You really picked me up at a
Speaker 4: bad time.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm happy to listen. Every time we're in
Speaker 2: a dark place. This has happened to me so many
Speaker 2: times in my life. A stranger literally will come out
Speaker 2: of the fucking sky and tell you how much you
Speaker 2: mean to them, or do something that lifts you up.
Speaker 2: That is like the way the world works like the
Speaker 2: universe has your back. Like just when you think you're
Speaker 2: not you don't have it anymore, someone will say you
Speaker 2: changed my life, or you did this or did do that.
Speaker 2: So you always have to pay attention to those things.
Speaker 2: That's something I used to think was corny, and now
Speaker 2: as an older woman in the midst in the mid
Speaker 2: sunset of my life, I love all the signs that
Speaker 2: you get that are reminders of like you're on the
Speaker 2: right track. Everything is only temporary. When you're going through
Speaker 2: a bad phase. That's only a bad phase. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be permanent, and it won't be permanent whether
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: It to be or not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 5: Do you like when people come up to you out
Speaker 5: of the blue and they're like, you know, when you're
Speaker 5: out to dinner or something and they stop you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mind.
Speaker 2: I don't really care as long as people don't ask
Speaker 2: me to get up when I'm like seated at a
Speaker 2: dinner table like I once had a guy, like I've
Speaker 2: had many guys do this, go come over here. It's
Speaker 2: like like I'm a prostitute or something. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: not even okay for a prostitute.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: It's it's like, why would I get up for my
Speaker 2: dinner with my fucking family when I'm spending to go
Speaker 2: take a.
Speaker 1: What do you think I work for you? It's just
Speaker 1: so stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing is when people try to take pictures
Speaker 1: in bathrooms.
Speaker 2: I try to deter people from that behavior, but I
Speaker 2: do find that it's always.
Speaker 1: A nice message.
Speaker 2: When you're feeling down or something bummed you out, or
Speaker 2: you heard something you didn't like about yourself, there's always
Speaker 2: a reinforcement right around the corner to validate you and
Speaker 2: tell you like you are loved. That is happening all
Speaker 2: the time in my life right now, so I'm very
Speaker 2: attuned to it. So I would advise you to pay
Speaker 2: attention to those things too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I had a guy who once messaged me on Instagram
Speaker 5: after I'd be like, I just saw you walking around
Speaker 5: New York and I didn't say hi because you were
Speaker 5: much shorter than I thought you'd be.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, one of the dumbest things people
Speaker 2: say to you, you're so small everyone, You're so small
Speaker 2: in person.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry that that thank you.
Speaker 2: I think I think thank you, or you're so much prettier.
Speaker 2: You're so much prettier in person.
Speaker 1: I love that one. And you're like, Akay, how.
Speaker 4: Big and ugly was I online for you? On a screen?
Speaker 1: For you?
Speaker 7: I know? I know?
Speaker 1: So what's your story? Anna? Tell me?
Speaker 2: Like how you got into comedy and like what you
Speaker 2: want to do and where you're headed?
Speaker 4: I mean, how I got into comedy. It's funny.
Speaker 5: I grew up thinking i'd be a very serious Broadway actress, like.
Speaker 2: Will you look like you could be a veterinarian a doctor?
Speaker 2: Like you look like a more serious person than you are.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 5: It's the glasses, you know, and they gave me a complex.
Speaker 5: When I first started auditioning, my agents literally would say like, hey,
Speaker 5: so this one they actually want someone funny, so make
Speaker 5: sure you wear your glasses.
Speaker 4: And I was like the Tina fe effect, like what
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 5: And then they'd be like, actually, they're looking for a
Speaker 5: pretty girl, so if you could just wear contacts for
Speaker 5: this audition, And.
Speaker 4: Then I'd be like, who am I?
Speaker 5: They do that much to your face? No, I thought
Speaker 5: i'd be a Broadway actress. I moved to New York
Speaker 5: City and I was like, they're waiting for me. I
Speaker 5: am I am a singer.
Speaker 4: I am here. I think the first sign should have
Speaker 4: been I didn't go to college for musical theaters, so,
Speaker 4: like you know, I.
Speaker 5: Went for TV production and I wrote a lot and
Speaker 5: I did theater, but I didn't like study it. My
Speaker 5: parents were like, wait, why do you have to go
Speaker 5: to the college, just saying we don't need that's that's
Speaker 5: not a real degree.
Speaker 4: And then I meant.
Speaker 5: I went to New York and everyone was like trained,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh shit, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not one of these.
Speaker 5: Like no one else wore like a leather jacket and
Speaker 5: sneakers to this audition.
Speaker 4: They're all in like character shoes and like dresses. And
Speaker 4: I felt so out of place. And I started taking
Speaker 4: classes at UCB, and I like met some cool.
Speaker 5: People and I was like, oh, these are like more
Speaker 5: people like me, you know, a room full of people
Speaker 5: who start in their high school theater and then.
Speaker 4: Moved to New York thinking they'd be a star, and
Speaker 4: they're in an improv class.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's funny how so many of us think like wait
Speaker 2: till I get like. That's how I felt when I
Speaker 2: moved to LA when I was nineteen I was like,
Speaker 2: wait till they see me.
Speaker 8: I was like, wait until everybody gets alone to this.
Speaker 8: I know, like so delusional, but also you know, kind
Speaker 8: of not. It's kind of nice to think that highly
Speaker 8: of yourself.
Speaker 4: You need to be delusional to do something like that.
Speaker 2: To move to one of us exactly, you have to
Speaker 2: be like, I'm not gonna be the biggest star.
Speaker 1: Whatever the fuck you think you're doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, my goalposts are always like moving based on
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, because I really have no long term plan.
Speaker 2: I'm always just very in the moment, like, oh, what
Speaker 2: looks like fun this year?
Speaker 1: But I like that. I like that Hubris?
Speaker 4: Yeah right?
Speaker 2: And how are you finding Like let's talk about the
Speaker 2: industry and like being a woman and being a comedian
Speaker 2: and having all of these things, like how have you
Speaker 2: found your way in?
Speaker 1: How old are you? I'm old?
Speaker 4: I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm forty eight, So why don't you shill
Speaker 2: that fuck up?
Speaker 7: Wait?
Speaker 5: I listened to ze Way's episode and I was like,
Speaker 5: should I just say nineteen?
Speaker 4: Like she's gonna ask me, should I just say it?
Speaker 1: I never said what about ze Way? What a bitch?
Speaker 1: See Way?
Speaker 2: I was like Seaway, You're a fucking asshole. She lied
Speaker 2: to me about her age a hook line and sinker.
Speaker 2: By the way, I fucking fell for it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I usually know bullshit, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I was sober that day.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even Stone Catherine, So what's It's almost like
Speaker 2: when I'm sober, I'm at a disadvantage, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like for me to level up, I've got
Speaker 2: to either have an edible or a cocktail.
Speaker 1: I love it, but yeah, ze Way.
Speaker 2: For everyone listening, she was our guest and she said
Speaker 2: she was nineteen, and I believed her, and then we
Speaker 2: share the same manager. So afterward I was like, I
Speaker 2: can't believe zee Way's nineteen, and she's like she's not.
Speaker 1: You idiot. Of all the people she could have lied to,
Speaker 1: you took it.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, she would have gotten her showtime
Speaker 3: show at like six, started writing at like thirteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Well, kudos to her forgetting, for being believable.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta give credit get beautiful.
Speaker 5: I did think i'd be that successful by nineteen, you know.
Speaker 5: I was like, there's no way I'm going to be
Speaker 5: an adult and I'm.
Speaker 1: Not like rich yet.
Speaker 2: And here I remember I remember having this age line,
Speaker 2: and I remember I used to look at how old
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston was when she got friends because that was
Speaker 2: my age threshold, like and she was thirty two, I believe.
Speaker 1: So I remember going like, okay, I haven't until thirty two.
Speaker 2: Because I waited tables for like seven or eight years,
Speaker 2: and I was very I was good at it, but
Speaker 2: I was, you know, a big bitch, so a lot
Speaker 2: of people, you know, there was a lot of arguments
Speaker 2: and confrontations.
Speaker 4: I was the worst server too. I did it for
Speaker 4: seven years.
Speaker 2: I was fine with the service and like being effective
Speaker 2: and like quick and I could remember everything.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want the human interaction, like the people
Speaker 1: were like.
Speaker 2: I was just like, don't talk to me, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I'm gonna get your food, like,
Speaker 2: let's not get it twisted.
Speaker 5: I would lie to the tables and they'd order a
Speaker 5: certain wine and if it wasn't a twist off, I'd
Speaker 5: be like.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we're like out of it.
Speaker 5: I actually I recommend this one. They'd be like, you're
Speaker 5: supposed to upsell. I'm like, I just want to do
Speaker 5: the ones that twist off.
Speaker 4: I really hate opening wine at the table.
Speaker 2: I did the same thing at Chaia Brasserie in Venice, California.
Speaker 2: I couldn't open bottles of wine like I just would
Speaker 2: suck it up. So I told the staff at Chaia
Speaker 2: Venice that I was allergic to grapes, so that I
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to serve fie. There is no grape allergy, like,
Speaker 2: no one has it. But I didn't know that, and
Speaker 2: neither does anybody else. Oh my god, see Way probably
Speaker 2: has it a grape allergy.
Speaker 1: Actually she definitely does. Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not going to bring a tray with
Speaker 2: a bottle and a bunch of glasses over and not
Speaker 2: fuck that up.
Speaker 1: I'm not domesticated.
Speaker 5: No, And I also would never pick up more than
Speaker 5: one plate at a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you come over a but take one plate
Speaker 2: and then come back five minutes later. So what has
Speaker 2: your experience back to that question, what has been your
Speaker 2: experience navigating this industry because it's a totally different medium
Speaker 2: than when I came up, Because you know, you're very
Speaker 2: well known from your social stuff, and it's different now,
Speaker 2: like it's not like you get fame necessarily for being
Speaker 2: on television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. I started to feel that, like the
Speaker 4: video bug.
Speaker 5: I feel like a long time ago when I first
Speaker 5: started doing stand up, which was like ten years ago,
Speaker 5: I guess, and I would do.
Speaker 4: Shows and then there would be some shitty shows where.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, they give me like six minutes all
Speaker 5: these fucking gross guys who have nothing nice do. They
Speaker 5: don't even like bring you up on stage properly. And
Speaker 5: I was like, or I could make a video and
Speaker 5: it could go viral on YouTube and that would be
Speaker 5: so funny and hundreds of thousands of people would see
Speaker 5: it instead of the twenty people at this comedy club
Speaker 5: in New York.
Speaker 1: So, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I started doing that like a while ago, and I
Speaker 5: loved it.
Speaker 4: And then I guess I hosted a game show. I
Speaker 4: don't if you know this. I hosted a game show
Speaker 4: for three years that like changed my life.
Speaker 1: No, what's it called.
Speaker 5: It was called HQ Trivia. It was like on your
Speaker 5: phone and it was super popular. It was like twice
Speaker 5: a day it was live. Millions of people would tune in.
Speaker 5: We had like celebrities host like The Rock hosted, like
Speaker 5: it was. It was crazy and it was like four
Speaker 5: or five hundred thousand people a night playing this game
Speaker 5: that I would host, and it just ended.
Speaker 4: Like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 5: I came back in the Pandemic, but that was on
Speaker 5: an app and so like I was like posting every
Speaker 5: night about that, and then in the Pandemic, I just
Speaker 5: I accidentally did an impression and that went viral. It
Speaker 5: was an accident. I didn't plan it at all and
Speaker 5: it went kind of viral. And then the La Times
Speaker 5: called me a TikToker and I was like, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, so much pressure. You're like tktok.
Speaker 5: I know I didn't even I don't even know if
Speaker 5: I had to, I might have had like done a
Speaker 5: couple things on TikTok, but nothing major. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 5: I guess they didn't do their research. I'm just a
Speaker 5: TikToker to the La Times.
Speaker 4: Now that's cool. And I just I leaned in, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Started making more videos daily like a crazy person. You
Speaker 5: know the fact that my boyfriend hasn't left yet and
Speaker 5: he's filmed a lot of my videos is a blessing.
Speaker 1: What's the story with your boyfriend? How long have you
Speaker 1: guys been together.
Speaker 4: We've been together almost eight years.
Speaker 1: Which oh, oh it was too long.
Speaker 4: That's so long.
Speaker 5: People gave up after your three or four They're like,
Speaker 5: why aren't you getting married yet?
Speaker 4: Now they don't even that's not even a question.
Speaker 1: You know you're not getting Are you not into the marriage?
Speaker 4: I never cared. I was never obsessed with marriage. I
Speaker 4: never wanted kids. My mom is like, she's your hero,
Speaker 4: Chelsea's your hero, because.
Speaker 5: Like I have nieces now, and I'm like, they think
Speaker 5: I'm the coolest person in the world, and I love
Speaker 5: that role.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I never wanted my own kids, you know.
Speaker 5: I love being like, Okay, good night, bye, now your
Speaker 5: parents deal. Yeah, So my boyfriend and I and that
Speaker 5: was something I told him straight up. I wasn't looking
Speaker 5: for a boyfriend. I had gotten out of a breakup
Speaker 5: and it was like a couple of years of me
Speaker 5: just I was like the forty year old virgin again.
Speaker 4: Like it was so fun being single.
Speaker 5: Because I was with someone for eight years from like
Speaker 5: college to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So you're you're you're you like long term relationships, I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's nice though.
Speaker 2: It's refreshing to hear that, like, you know, so many
Speaker 2: young girls are like girls that are younger than me,
Speaker 2: that are being honest about out what they want with
Speaker 2: marriage and children, and like actually identifying it is such
Speaker 2: an empowering and powerful thing to know and recognizing yourself
Speaker 2: what you want, because I think that's such an issue
Speaker 2: for so long. I think women for so long were
Speaker 2: held so back, you know, and like housewives and da
Speaker 2: da da, that you're like, you don't even think you
Speaker 2: have a choice.
Speaker 1: You just do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: So now to see all these women like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting married, I'm not having children.
Speaker 1: That's not for me.
Speaker 2: It's very like it's just a sign of like the
Speaker 2: times that we live in, and there's it feels like
Speaker 2: there's like some sort of female awakening that's been at
Speaker 2: play for the last you know, fifty years, and we're
Speaker 2: cruising into this really sweet spot, especially abudding up against
Speaker 2: Roe v Wade being overturned and the way men are
Speaker 2: and you know how stupid most of them can act
Speaker 2: at times, and embarrassing it is as a society that
Speaker 2: men get away with such nonsense behavior and we're we're like,
Speaker 2: we're over here, we've had our shit together. This whole time,
Speaker 2: and nobody has been giving us the wheel to drive.
Speaker 2: So I'm true, Yeah, that's really refreshing. How do you
Speaker 2: feel about children the same way you feel about getting married?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I never wanted kids. I love kids, kids like me,
Speaker 5: but I never wanted to have kids of mine.
Speaker 1: You say, I mean, do you have proof if that
Speaker 1: children like you?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Because I always have candy on me, and my sister's
Speaker 5: three year old thinks I'm like the fucking.
Speaker 1: God, like you know, or a child molester.
Speaker 4: I know it's a candy on me. Watch out.
Speaker 2: I actually speaking of child molesting. I got a ride
Speaker 2: home from a child last night. I was flew in
Speaker 2: from I. So I flew in from LA to Whistler.
Speaker 2: I'm back in my I have a little ski a
Speaker 2: situation of whistle that I'm obsessed with skiing. So I
Speaker 2: came back yesterday and I stopped at my friend's house,
Speaker 2: which is like forty minutes away, and she had dinner
Speaker 2: and friends over and then everyone kind of fell asleep.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, well, I don't want to sleep here,
Speaker 1: like I just got home. I want to go to
Speaker 1: in my bed. And this like nineteen year old kid was.
Speaker 2: Like I'll drive you to Slirt's like forty minutes and
Speaker 2: I was like, are you are you?
Speaker 1: Do you have a license? I was like, how old
Speaker 1: are you? Can you drive in the snow? He's like
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen and I was like okay.
Speaker 2: And then I like, you know, observed him for a
Speaker 2: good forty five seconds and thought, yeah, actually this is
Speaker 2: the guy I want to drive me home.
Speaker 4: You were like, let me set you up in Z
Speaker 4: way I know another nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: Said, I only hang out with nineteen year olds these days,
Speaker 2: so I want to introduce you to someone.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he drove me home and it was really cute.
Speaker 2: I had my dog, Bernice because my friend was dog
Speaker 2: sitting and he drove me home and it's like a
Speaker 2: forty minute drive, and uh yeah, it was really funny.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's like, I could give you ride
Speaker 2: anytime you need one.
Speaker 1: Chelse Ll.
Speaker 4: You have a new driver, and I know I have
Speaker 4: a new.
Speaker 1: Nineteen year old driver. That's something I would totally do well.
Speaker 3: And he's not legal drinking age, so it's definitely likely
Speaker 3: to be over.
Speaker 1: He doesn't drink at all. We talked about lots of
Speaker 1: drugs and alcohol on the way.
Speaker 7: Home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't. A lot of kids don't drink.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Yeah, it's funny. They're all straight edge.
Speaker 2: They're not into it because I think alcohol is, like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's seen its finest hour.
Speaker 1: There's so many other.
Speaker 2: Avenues to explore with mushrooms and microdosing, and I think
Speaker 2: people are more on that train.
Speaker 3: Yes, kids these days think that alcohol is boomer technology
Speaker 3: is what they call it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's oh, just great. I think am
Speaker 1: I a boomer?
Speaker 2: I'm the opposite of a boomer, but I am a
Speaker 2: boomer probably. No, I think I'm younger than a boomer.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, Catherine, I like that merch hat
Speaker 1: that dear Chelsea hat. I needed a black hat today,
Speaker 1: and here we are.
Speaker 4: That's so cute.
Speaker 2: Where's our merch at Chelseahandler dot com, Chelsea Handler dot com.
Speaker 1: Okay, quick shout out to merch.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, okay, did you get the lowdown
Speaker 2: of what we're doing today. We're basically gonna have fun
Speaker 2: with our callers. They call in for real shit and
Speaker 2: we give them real advice.
Speaker 4: I can't wait, I've listened.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, all.
Speaker 2: Right, so we need to take a break, and then
Speaker 2: we're going to be right back. Okay, and we're.
Speaker 3: Back, We are back, We're back okay, and uh, these
Speaker 3: are all going to be centered around things that you
Speaker 3: have something to do with or you've talked about.
Speaker 2: And so, okay, are you comfortable with questions about anal penetration?
Speaker 1: Anna?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect, There is one about porn. So that's why
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, they're they're not all about you.
Speaker 3: But did you know I've post my ass all over Instagram?
Speaker 1: Though I know that you wake up and do anal
Speaker 1: every morning.
Speaker 2: I mean, anyone worth their salt does that. That's the
Speaker 2: first thing on the menu.
Speaker 5: I promise my Instagram followers when Pennsylvania turned blue, I
Speaker 5: would do ten photos of my ass on Instagram and
Speaker 5: amazing I did.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I love when we can combine
Speaker 2: politics and sex. That's my favorite two of my favorite
Speaker 2: topics interpersonal relationships. Well, I like the emotional psychodrama that
Speaker 2: goes with it. Two, but I love sex and I
Speaker 2: love politics.
Speaker 4: There you go, you would love that post. It was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think my ass turned Pennsylvania blue.
Speaker 1: I did it.
Speaker 2: It's like the opposite of blue balls. It's like blue
Speaker 2: ass smurf ass.
Speaker 3: Well very appropriately. This email starts, am I the asshole? Probably,
Speaker 3: Zan says Dear Chelsea, Am I the asshole? That's what
Speaker 3: I'm needing reassurance on I was in a relationship for
Speaker 3: six months. We started talking in May, met in June,
Speaker 3: and became official in August. We ended New Year's Eve.
Speaker 3: In short, he felt as though I was not integrating
Speaker 3: into his life. The first incident came in the form
Speaker 3: of a wedding in October. He told me his cousin
Speaker 3: was getting married in January. It was a big moment
Speaker 3: for the family and he wanted me to attend. I
Speaker 3: told him it made me feel uncomfortable to meet the
Speaker 3: entire family so soon into the relationship. I felt steps
Speaker 3: were being skipped, such as meeting individual members beforehand, and
Speaker 3: given that it's a destination wedding, the cost included felt unreasonable.
Speaker 3: He did not take it well. Ultimately, I bought a ticket,
Speaker 3: but he never forgave me for hesitating. The second incident
Speaker 3: involves his friends. Being thirty three, I've phased out of
Speaker 3: the twenty somethings enjoyment of alcohol. Him being twenty six
Speaker 3: hasn't their idea of a good time as to be expected,
Speaker 3: always involves drinking. Because of this, I don't fully enjoy
Speaker 3: the moments we're all together. And when I asked him
Speaker 3: if there was ever a time he and his friends
Speaker 3: got together and didn't drink, he couldn't really give me
Speaker 3: an answer, but he said I was being selfish and uncompromising.
Speaker 3: I feel like I am and was being rational, But
Speaker 3: his voice in my head and the accompanying guilt make
Speaker 3: me question myself.
Speaker 1: Am I the asshole? Zan is Xana gay Man is Zanna? Yes? Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: z Zan, You're not being an asshole at all. That's
Speaker 1: like good.
Speaker 2: All the red flags you identified them, You hesitated when
Speaker 2: you didn't want to go to the wedding.
Speaker 1: You for the right reasons.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with being like circumspect about meeting people's families.
Speaker 2: They're being overwhelmed, and also the cost that was put
Speaker 2: into it. No, I don't think you were an.
Speaker 1: Asshole at all.
Speaker 2: I think you were actually had boundaries and were stating them,
Speaker 2: and you were being told that your boundaries aren't going
Speaker 2: to be respected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, six or seven months, because it sounds like, you know,
Speaker 3: they started talking in May and this wedding was in January,
Speaker 3: like six or seven months kind of feels like plenty
Speaker 3: of time.
Speaker 4: To meet the family.
Speaker 3: And I get that it's like overwhelming being all at once,
Speaker 3: but I think it's okay to be uncomfortable. But that
Speaker 3: feels like pretty appropriate timeline.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is appropriate, But if the person doesn't want
Speaker 2: to do that, then the person doesn't want to do that.
Speaker 2: You can't make someone go and you're going to meet
Speaker 2: my whole family all in one fell swoop.
Speaker 1: I can imagine a lot of people. That would make
Speaker 1: a lot very nervous.
Speaker 2: First of all, I would fucking run towards that wedding
Speaker 2: because I love shit like that. But I have a
Speaker 2: different personality type, right, Like I get it, Like if
Speaker 2: that's overwhelming to some people, some people have serious like
Speaker 2: social anxiety and whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's valid to not do
Speaker 1: anything you don't want to do.
Speaker 5: I agree with you one thousand percent. I think it's
Speaker 5: like you were honest with this person.
Speaker 4: If they made you feel bad, then that's on them.
Speaker 5: If you're like, hey, I don't know how I feel
Speaker 5: about meeting your whole family, that's okay, you know, and
Speaker 5: then you know it's not going to work.
Speaker 1: Out.
Speaker 5: I guess if they can't understand where you where your
Speaker 5: boundaries are. I made my boyfriend meet my parents three
Speaker 5: weeks into dating, so I'm no one.
Speaker 4: I'm bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never have any like rules around that.
Speaker 2: But also when you ask if you're an asshole, usually
Speaker 2: the assholes.
Speaker 1: Aren't asking that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we'll problem solved and they're not the
Speaker 2: Zan Zan zan.
Speaker 5: Oh, and I wanted to address the drinking thing. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: If Zan doesn't want to have a drink, who gives
Speaker 5: a ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, one's what are you in.
Speaker 4: The DARE program where they're like, come on, I had
Speaker 4: a drink? Are you not? Are you a loser? You
Speaker 4: can't hang out with us?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right yeah, And I think that is just
Speaker 3: sort of a clear sign that you're not in the
Speaker 3: same place in life as this other guy.
Speaker 4: So well, thanks Anne, I'm glad Zan got out.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, what's next? Next up?
Speaker 3: Our next one is a caller, and this is Elena.
Speaker 3: Elena is currently in Puerto Rico. She's on vacation, but
Speaker 3: she's calling in. Dear Chelsea, I heard you answer a
Speaker 3: question about porn in your last interview with ze way,
Speaker 3: and it brought up another question for me. I haven't
Speaker 3: felt comfortable talking about it because the second a woman
Speaker 3: brings up porn in any questioning way, I feel like
Speaker 3: we're labeled as prudes. I'm not against using porn. I
Speaker 3: completely believe in and support healthy porn consumption. But I
Speaker 3: recently found out that my boyfriend of two years has
Speaker 3: several OnlyFans subscriptions, paying for these girls monthly, even messaging them,
Speaker 3: talking to them, and tipping them for custom nude sets.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: To me, this feels adjacent to cheating, though obviously not physically.
Speaker 1: It feels like a betrayal, and I was really hurt
Speaker 1: by it.
Speaker 3: When we talked about it, he said he didn't think
Speaker 3: it was a big deal at all and quote people
Speaker 3: in healthy relationships do this all the time. It felt
Speaker 3: like a shitty response. Honestly, my gut says it's not
Speaker 3: normal or fine. To me, this crosses a line for me.
Speaker 3: With the payment and messaging. Looking at a potential future
Speaker 3: with him as a possible husband makes me really nervous
Speaker 3: after this, and I don't want to deal with this
Speaker 3: when I'm six months pregnant with his kid.
Speaker 1: I've gotten mixed advice.
Speaker 3: Women tell me to run, some men say give him
Speaker 3: another chance, and other men even say this type of
Speaker 3: porn consumption is totally normal and natural. I'd love to
Speaker 3: hear your advice on this. I appreciate your show and
Speaker 3: all of your advice.
Speaker 1: Elena.
Speaker 2: Hi, Elena, Hi, Hi, this is Anna, she's our special
Speaker 2: guest day Anna Roysman.
Speaker 4: Hi, Elena, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that. I'm not into that
Speaker 1: paying's messaging what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like that's flirting with if it was
Speaker 2: if it weren't an oly fan site and he was
Speaker 2: messaging anyone on the side, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1: Be put off by that? That's that is kind of cheating.
Speaker 2: It's flirting with another person when you're in supposedly a
Speaker 2: monogaous Does he know he's in a monogamous relationship?
Speaker 9: Yes, And I'd even asked him after I found this out,
Speaker 9: whether or not he wanted to continue a monogamous relationship
Speaker 9: or do something else, and he doubled down he said, yes,
Speaker 9: I would I want to maintain a monogamous.
Speaker 2: Relation, of course, because he's getting to watch porn and
Speaker 2: flirt and tip other women. No, it's like it's icky.
Speaker 2: I mean, I listen, I might be old fashioned, but
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think I'm pretty fucking with it.
Speaker 2: And it's like that, especially even if he wasn't paying
Speaker 2: them and he was DM some girls flirting with them
Speaker 2: that would feel bad to you, and for sex, like
Speaker 2: watching them whatever they do on OnlyFans, right, is it
Speaker 2: all sex or is it just like sometimes you show
Speaker 2: like your vagina?
Speaker 1: What happens?
Speaker 2: I don't have any OnlyFans accounts that I follow. I've
Speaker 2: been trying to get on it, but I have someone
Speaker 2: blocked me.
Speaker 9: No, No, I am all for the girls on only
Speaker 9: Fans and so support them.
Speaker 1: But and so does your boyfriend. So last night very much.
Speaker 9: Very much. It's mainly, honestly, just been like nudes from them.
Speaker 9: It hasn't been like custom videos or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's all gross.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like, I don't know, I want to like
Speaker 9: support his desires nothing.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's that's not a landing or too nice.
Speaker 2: You're being a little naive and you're being a little
Speaker 2: bit too nice. You don't need to support his porn interest.
Speaker 3: Right, It's not like he's picking up a guitar or
Speaker 3: like learning another language.
Speaker 2: Like that's not your responsibility a and like, yes, of
Speaker 2: course kudos to anyone who has an only Fans, But
Speaker 2: if you want your boyfriend or your partner like that
Speaker 2: doesn't feel good to you, clearly because you're calling and
Speaker 2: it's just it key behavior and there's nothing no no,
Speaker 2: I think you need to move on from him, and
Speaker 2: also you need to have like a little bit more
Speaker 2: and better understanding of what you are and what you're
Speaker 2: not willing to like put up with within a relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: I also wanted to say, when you called in, you
Speaker 5: give this whole description of like porn and porn, watching porn,
Speaker 5: putting on porn. I mean porn, I'm gonna say, you
Speaker 5: know it's art, right, it's a form of art in
Speaker 5: the but in only Fans where you're having a connection
Speaker 5: with someone who's sending your nudes personally and you paid
Speaker 5: them for it, that's a different that's not necessarily a porn,
Speaker 5: you know, that's totally I mean people people are dating
Speaker 5: online today, you know, that's the same thing as like
Speaker 5: having these like online relationships. I don't know, I think
Speaker 5: it's it's a different level than like him, if you
Speaker 5: walked in you're like, he's watching porn again on his computer.
Speaker 5: That's different than paying for someone to message him.
Speaker 9: Definitely. I have just asked different people's advice on this,
Speaker 9: as I mentioned in my email, and you know, a
Speaker 9: lot of women say the same thing, run get out.
Speaker 9: A lot of men have mixed advice, like some say,
Speaker 9: pill girl. I am so so sorry. I'm staying at
Speaker 9: a friend's house and the cat is no, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: First of all, stuff apologizing. You need to like boost
Speaker 2: up your self esteem. You're too nice. That's a very
Speaker 2: nice quality, but you need to have a little bit
Speaker 2: more like gumption and a little bit more.
Speaker 1: You are like a beautiful.
Speaker 2: Kind, caring individual who is thinking about a person, and
Speaker 2: you need to be thinking about yourself. Actually, you're giving
Speaker 2: him a little bit too much credit in this area.
Speaker 2: This is really about how you feel. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: you feel good, so it's not going to work for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, thank you. Yeah, it's not gonna work for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't need to support his habits of messaging
Speaker 5: women for naked photos.
Speaker 9: Yeah, him like a year into a stating I've been
Speaker 9: doing for almost two and a half years and about
Speaker 9: a year and I asked him, because I was having
Speaker 9: some feelings. I wasn't sure if he I just had
Speaker 9: a sense there was something going on only fans wise,
Speaker 9: so I asked him, are you you know only fans,
Speaker 9: no judgment, it's fine, but I just want to know
Speaker 9: for me, for my future. And he was really adamant
Speaker 9: about it. He said, no, absolutely not. Why would I
Speaker 9: pay for something like that. So I think it's more
Speaker 9: frustrating too that he lied about it.
Speaker 2: You know, and you gave him an opportunity and then
Speaker 2: he blew it, so he lied to you. So no,
Speaker 2: you deserve better than this. This isn't going to be
Speaker 2: good enough for you, period. So are you ready to
Speaker 2: break up with him?
Speaker 1: Because you should?
Speaker 9: Thank you, Chelsey, I've honestly been confused by a lot
Speaker 9: of advice that I've gotten, Like men say, it's actually
Speaker 9: it's just porn. It's fine, and actually it's more ethical
Speaker 9: because it's from only fans, like you're controlling where the
Speaker 9: money goes. But I think I think there's a good
Speaker 9: percentage of women on only vans who are still trafficked,
Speaker 9: Like you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, that sounds like guys who love only vans
Speaker 3: only men would say that it's ethical gonna cheat anyway,
Speaker 3: so it's better that he's just cheating with someone online.
Speaker 1: Like whatever.
Speaker 2: Don't listen to men and give advice to women about
Speaker 2: fucking anything. You need to listen to women, and right
Speaker 2: now you need to listen to us. I can see
Speaker 2: this fixture very clearly. I'm sorry that you wasted two
Speaker 2: and a half years of your life, but there is
Speaker 2: somebody out there for you that is gonna appreciate and
Speaker 2: love you. It's actually it's a sea of men. They're everywhere.
Speaker 2: Everywhere you go, there they are.
Speaker 5: And you're gonna be stronger because of this situation. You're
Speaker 5: gonna know what you want when you don't want.
Speaker 1: And you need to also use your voice.
Speaker 2: Like your voice, I want you to use that as
Speaker 2: a tool for yourself, and I want you to write
Speaker 2: that down, like you need to get stronger in your voice,
Speaker 2: and I mean that actually audibly. And you know you
Speaker 2: need to like do some vocal exercises in the morning
Speaker 2: to like ground yourself because you're being This is what
Speaker 2: I see when I look at you, somebody who's just
Speaker 2: like in the air that is like kind of being directed,
Speaker 2: like you're like a hot air balloon. That it doesn't
Speaker 2: know where to land because you're kind of being directed
Speaker 2: by someone who doesn't have your best interest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to be grounded in who you are.
Speaker 2: You want to be a woman like you're a woman
Speaker 2: and you're powerful, and you have all of these amazing
Speaker 2: things going for you in your life. And I don't
Speaker 2: know half of them, but I already know that's true
Speaker 2: because it's true for every one of us.
Speaker 1: And this outward focus on that no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: don't like that at all. And you're better than that.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Chelsea.
Speaker 3: To Chelsea's point about you need to listen to women
Speaker 3: about this, it's not because women are always right all o.
Speaker 1: We usually are.
Speaker 3: It's because the women in your life are echoing what
Speaker 3: is coming up for you, what's coming from your gut
Speaker 3: and what your gut is telling you, and the men
Speaker 3: in your life are trying to like dissuade you from that.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the women.
Speaker 3: Are telling you exactly how you're feeling, and that's why
Speaker 3: you should listen to them.
Speaker 9: Thank you all so much. This is really helpful. It's
Speaker 9: so great to get your advice on this.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I'll be thinking about you, honey, follow up with us. Okay,
Speaker 1: let us know how it goes.
Speaker 2: Let us know when you break up with your boyfriend,
Speaker 2: because you will and keep us posted.
Speaker 1: We'll have you on our matchmaking segment.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's fun. Yeah, I will put you on
Speaker 2: our matchmaking segment.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Okay, bye, Len, good luck bye.
Speaker 1: I love men. It's better.
Speaker 2: It's more ethical to watch porn when you're fucking so stupid.
Speaker 1: I love my brother.
Speaker 2: Over Christmas this year, he was like, Chelsea, let me
Speaker 2: I go no, no, let me tell you. Don't don't
Speaker 2: tell me anything, and don't start any sentence with let
Speaker 2: me no, no, no, I don't let you anymore.
Speaker 1: Don't talk to me like that.
Speaker 3: But I think this is such an interesting question. Brad
Speaker 3: and I, my husband and I were just having this
Speaker 3: discussion the other day. We were watching ninety Day Fiance
Speaker 3: and there was a similar situation, and it's like, where
Speaker 3: is the line? And I think the line has to
Speaker 3: be like when you start having direct conversations, like it's
Speaker 3: not just porn when you start like I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: giving someone money, but even if you're not giving them money,
Speaker 3: if someone's sending you nudes and the DMS, like, no,
Speaker 3: that's not just like this is for fun and so
Speaker 3: I can jerk off. This is something more. That's yeah,
Speaker 3: that's too personalized.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got mad at my boyfriend of the pandemic.
Speaker 5: He had a weekly D and D zoom game dungeons
Speaker 5: and trackets, and I was like, this is worse than port.
Speaker 5: I would feel better if you were actually like girl
Speaker 5: and jerking out. I'm like you and your your fourteen
Speaker 5: other like high school friends. They're all like men in
Speaker 5: their forties and they're like playing characters on their Zoom.
Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot with men in video games. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is a boner killer. It is a boner killer.
Speaker 5: I was like, have you heard of OnlyFans I made?
Speaker 2: Fuck, that's a boner lift your upper and this is
Speaker 2: a boner killer. It's just so like boners and you
Speaker 2: don't know which direction they're headed east, west, north or south.
Speaker 4: I was such a bitch. I'm like, let me play
Speaker 4: my saxophone. Remember when I used to do that.
Speaker 5: I'd be like, I'm I'm rehearsing in the other rooms.
Speaker 3: Well, our next question comes from Hobby and he'll be
Speaker 3: joining us on the phone as well.
Speaker 1: He is currently unemployed, and I thought that this would be.
Speaker 3: A perfect question for you since you had a podcast
Speaker 3: called Unemployed and you know about transitions. So yes, Hobby
Speaker 3: says Dear Chelsea. I'm currently working as a reality TV producer,
Speaker 3: and while I love the work, the short term contracts
Speaker 3: have been causing me some anxiety. Additionally, I had to
Speaker 3: move back to Miami to care for my sick mother
Speaker 3: he was living in LA, which added another layer of
Speaker 3: complexity to my life. I admire the stick with itness
Speaker 3: and resilience in the entertainment industry you have, and I'm
Speaker 3: curious to know if you have any advice for someone
Speaker 3: like me who feels at a crossroads. How do you
Speaker 3: navigate the uncertainty of short contracts and do you have
Speaker 3: any recommendations for building a backup plan or creating other
Speaker 3: income streams. Furthermore, given my current circumstances in my life,
Speaker 3: I'm contemplating whether I should consider moving back to LA
Speaker 3: or explore other options. I'd appreciate any insights or wisdom
Speaker 3: you could share based on your own experiences.
Speaker 1: Have HI havevey?
Speaker 7: Hey? How's it going good?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm good good, I'm chilling, okay.
Speaker 1: So Okay, break it down.
Speaker 2: Well, Anna, this will be good for you too, because
Speaker 2: we're all like that in this business. That's what it's like,
Speaker 2: so we can relate for sure. It's like job to
Speaker 2: job to job to job. No job security ever, ever, ever, No.
Speaker 6: Four oh one K, no paid time off, none of that.
Speaker 6: And right now that's sounding like mighty tempting. It feels
Speaker 6: like I'm missing out on something.
Speaker 1: You know, you mean by not having a four oh.
Speaker 6: One K yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, or just like steady
Speaker 6: income throughout the year. Right now, Catherine knows, I'm unemployed.
Speaker 6: I've worked it out where I have two shows that
Speaker 6: I work on that kind of fill up nine months
Speaker 6: out of the year, and now these three months January
Speaker 6: to March, I'm just kind of hanging out, you know,
Speaker 6: and applying for gigs and crossing my fingers but nothing yet.
Speaker 4: Have you been doing it for a long time.
Speaker 6: I've been working in reality TV for like five years
Speaker 6: or so, producing like two ish years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to say Mozeltov to you for having
Speaker 5: a job nine months in a creative industry nine months
Speaker 5: out of the year.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god about that.
Speaker 5: That's like teachers, you know, they get like a summer off.
Speaker 4: I guess, I'm like, you're kind of living their schedule.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, if I was employed for nine months
Speaker 5: this year, I'd be like, you know, on a beach somewhere.
Speaker 5: I'd be in Miami with you. No, not to I
Speaker 5: understand though, that this lull, the three months is it
Speaker 5: feels slow and you have no idea what to do.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I feel slow, and then the demons start,
Speaker 6: you know, creeping back in and telling me that I'm
Speaker 6: never going to have a stable anything, never going to
Speaker 6: be able to buy a house, never gonna you know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 2: Those are your thoughts, Like, that's your just like shadows
Speaker 2: self telling you your That's what all of us have
Speaker 2: and experience when we don't have a lot going on,
Speaker 2: is our voices saying are you good enough?
Speaker 1: Are you going to this happen? That's bullshit.
Speaker 2: So first and foremost, we need you to spend these
Speaker 2: three months that you have off in a very much
Speaker 2: more productive way. And you sound like you have since
Speaker 2: you have a steady income for those nine months out
Speaker 2: of the year before you have something more that you're working.
Speaker 1: Maybe eleven months out of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a pretty good gig if you can
Speaker 2: swing working nine months out of the year and keep
Speaker 2: it that way.
Speaker 1: I would just say, but you need to put money.
Speaker 2: Aside in every paycheck first of all, for your own
Speaker 2: four oh one k for your own You have to
Speaker 2: start all of that shit yourself, and because then you're
Speaker 2: an island taking care of yourself and you're feeding yourself
Speaker 2: before you put yourself out there anymore. And there's a
Speaker 2: lot of self esteem that comes with managing your money
Speaker 2: in a very thoughtful, futuristic way.
Speaker 1: You're preparing for the future. You can't just like burn
Speaker 1: through everything and it feels.
Speaker 2: Very good, and you're going to feel a lot safer
Speaker 2: and like grounded and protected when you are looking out
Speaker 2: for yourself. And there's all sorts of accounts you could
Speaker 2: drop and they can take money from your paycheck. You
Speaker 2: can put it in yourself like you can design it
Speaker 2: however you want. But you need to start doing that anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, you're a brown man and you should be
Speaker 2: preparing for your future.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 6: I have a rough ira and I do have a
Speaker 6: good amount of savings, but it's like I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's like the Cuban I'm Cuban
Speaker 6: and the trauma of coming from parents who came from nothing,
Speaker 6: Like I'm like, you gotta keep saving more, you gotta
Speaker 6: keep saving more, you know, Like, but I hear you.
Speaker 1: A lot of people feel that way.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people feel exactly the way that
Speaker 2: you do. It's not as I did, to do with
Speaker 2: being Cuban. It has to do with the human experience,
Speaker 2: you know, you're I mean, not many people go through
Speaker 2: life going I'm going to be great this whole time.
Speaker 1: Everything's going to go my way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, true, true.
Speaker 5: Well are we gonna say Anna, I was gonna say, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: as a Jew, you know, my parents, they they I
Speaker 5: feel sorry for them that I did this, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm always broke and I'm always I feel for you
Speaker 4: because this is where I am today this morning. Even.
Speaker 4: But I was gonna say, you're a producer, and you.
Speaker 5: Don't have to put yourself in a little category of
Speaker 5: just a reality.
Speaker 4: TV producer, because that's a hard job. You're a producer.
Speaker 4: You could produce. You know how many people need producers,
Speaker 4: like on a podcast.
Speaker 5: Or first or film or you knows your name out there, Yeah, commercials, advertising,
Speaker 5: even social media people need people to produce videos for
Speaker 5: Like it's there's so much more work I think as
Speaker 5: a producer, because you're obviously organized. You know how to
Speaker 5: like book a place or guests or whatnot. You know,
Speaker 5: like you know how to get people together. So I
Speaker 5: think just exercise that and you might find something that
Speaker 5: you like. Even you're like, wait, reality TV, that's so
Speaker 5: of the past, Like look at me, I'm running you know,
Speaker 5: six podcasts now. I always think, take whatever skills you enjoy,
Speaker 5: because you obviously went in a creative route, you chose
Speaker 5: not to go into like a corporate job. Like take
Speaker 5: those skills and just go and try something else with it,
Speaker 5: because I think you seem.
Speaker 4: Like you could do that.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I also have this like feeling that like I've
Speaker 6: got to be out in La you know, that's where
Speaker 6: I kind of like set up my like network of people.
Speaker 6: I lived there for two years, and like I wrote
Speaker 6: in the email, like I've been back home with Mom
Speaker 6: who's been sick. I have my ninety three year old
Speaker 6: grandfather here who I'm also like helping out, you know,
Speaker 6: make you know, a doctor's appointment to whatnot. And my
Speaker 6: dad is a truck driver who's gone half the time.
Speaker 6: And so I feel like a little bit of a
Speaker 6: how to be home right now here in Miami. And
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's a ton of ton of work here,
Speaker 6: But again, my network's kind of like in La. So
Speaker 6: I'm kind of like again at that's like cross roads.
Speaker 2: But first of all, you can you can reach out
Speaker 2: to your network in LA and I guarantee you they're
Speaker 2: going to have connections in Miami.
Speaker 1: You can reach out to, you can. There's so many
Speaker 1: proactive things you can be doing.
Speaker 2: And I think being there for your family is so
Speaker 2: important and meaningful that it's great that you're doing that.
Speaker 2: We spend so much time thinking about what we're not
Speaker 2: doing instead of.
Speaker 1: Thinking about what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Like you are doing something very profound and meaningful by
Speaker 2: being available for your family. That is meaningful, And I
Speaker 2: would choose that any day over the week, over you know,
Speaker 2: any of this business.
Speaker 1: The reality is you have to work, but you can
Speaker 1: have it both ways.
Speaker 2: Like everything is possible, you just have to actually put
Speaker 2: in the work, which might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: like trying to figure out who would have a connection
Speaker 2: in Miami. And yes, I love Anna's advice about trying
Speaker 2: different things, because yeah, you could get a couple days
Speaker 2: on another job doing something completely different, on a modeling
Speaker 2: shoot or print shoot campaign and and and it'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I could make a couple I could do this five
Speaker 2: days a month when I'm here in Miami, or twenty
Speaker 2: days a month. You can find other avenues where you're
Speaker 2: making money. You're still in the industry you want to
Speaker 2: be in, but you're getting another look at kind of
Speaker 2: like various different parts of the industry, and they're.
Speaker 4: Gonna love that you have LA experience on your and
Speaker 4: they're gonna be like, oh, wow, he's the real deal.
Speaker 5: Okay, he lived in LA and produced reality shows like
Speaker 5: that's that's big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I want you to see these three months not as
Speaker 3: like downtime. We are not making money, but we all
Speaker 3: know how busy a producer's life can be when you're working.
Speaker 3: So I want you to take these three months and
Speaker 3: think bigger, not what job could I be doing, but
Speaker 3: what's my next career move? I mean, maybe you are
Speaker 3: at the point where it's hard to save, but you
Speaker 3: know what I think you need to be looking at
Speaker 3: this more creatively. This is your moment to think about
Speaker 3: what show do I maybe want to pitch, What ideas
Speaker 3: do I have? How can I level up my career
Speaker 3: to the point where I am making enough money that
Speaker 3: it's easy to put money into a four oh one K.
Speaker 3: I would also say a book I'd recommend for you
Speaker 3: is You Are a Badass at Making Money by Jensen Cero,
Speaker 3: who's been on the podcast before, and that.
Speaker 1: I wrote that book? Did I write it? You're very
Speaker 1: good at it.
Speaker 4: I need to read this book too.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 3: It's kind of less about like what specifically to do
Speaker 3: and more about changing your mindset around money and fixing
Speaker 3: especially the scarcity thing that you have going on. You've
Speaker 3: got like very much a scarcity mindset and turning that
Speaker 3: into like training your mind to think in terms of abundance.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get to you got to start
Speaker 2: meditating too. Like I say this to almost everybody, but
Speaker 2: it sucking. Makes such a difference to just constantly like
Speaker 2: there's all these mantras, guided mantras about you, and there's
Speaker 2: I promise you if you meditate for like five days
Speaker 2: in a row, you're going to just start to feel
Speaker 2: a lightness and a groundedness that you didn't feel because
Speaker 2: you're actually giving yourself that time to surround yourself with
Speaker 2: whatever imagery like calms you or lights or whatever, your
Speaker 2: whatever makes you feel protected, and like just visualizing what
Speaker 2: is your safest environment and telling yourself, like, you've got this.
Speaker 1: You're the reason why you've gotten this far to begin with.
Speaker 2: Like you're on your own team, so just make sure
Speaker 2: that you're always working for that team.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, I used to meditate it a lot and
Speaker 7: I need to pick it back up. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 7: And I think I need to go to therapy again.
Speaker 7: I know you would say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everyone should be in therapy. I just
Speaker 2: got off the phone with my therapist this morning, you guys.
Speaker 2: I just had a nice one hour session with my
Speaker 2: new therapist. I fucking love this woman.
Speaker 1: Yes, send me your contact, Okay, And right now you
Speaker 1: have the time.
Speaker 4: I wanted to say one other thing.
Speaker 5: You're never going to look back at this time and
Speaker 5: regret being with your family, you know, like in the
Speaker 5: future you'll look back and be like, need to do
Speaker 5: that dumb gig in La for like a weekend and like,
Speaker 5: you know, stress myself out, like you'll always look back
Speaker 5: at loving the time with your family.
Speaker 7: So absolutely, no, you're so right, And just.
Speaker 2: To remember, like I always like to think open instead
Speaker 2: of contract, like when you're thinking about career stuff and
Speaker 2: like dabbling in different things.
Speaker 1: Don't think you only do one thing.
Speaker 2: Think oh, what else can I do that I don't
Speaker 2: know that I can do yet, Like what else is there?
Speaker 2: And be very open to all the possibilities and maybe
Speaker 2: even if it's a job opportunity, like a couple of
Speaker 2: days work here and there on some sort of production
Speaker 2: that isn't reality based or that you're not that familiar with,
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't sound appealing, like I would beseech
Speaker 2: you to just try it. You know, you don't know
Speaker 2: what all the stuff that's out there that you're gonna
Speaker 2: like until you do it, and you can cross it
Speaker 2: off and go that's not for me.
Speaker 1: This is for me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's that improv rule. Yes and yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Ariana Grande's latest song, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? I think I listened
Speaker 1: to it yesterday, yes, and yes, okay, there you go, Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She went to say city.
Speaker 5: This is traumatizing for people in comedy. Why does she
Speaker 5: need I Likedriana Grande until this song. I'm like, I can't,
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right, well, thank you also so so much.
Speaker 6: I'm taking this all to heart.
Speaker 2: Okay, and wey bye, Honey, take care great, Harvey's taken
Speaker 2: care of wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like I like what you said Anna
Speaker 3: about like it's like a teacher, like this is the
Speaker 3: time he gets to focus on himself, do some soul searching.
Speaker 4: All that stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I wish I could work nine months
Speaker 5: out of the year. I was like, that sounds amazing. Unemployed.
Speaker 4: What I'm sorry, We're.
Speaker 2: Going to take a break and we're going to be
Speaker 2: right back to wrap it up, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. Well.
Speaker 3: Our next question comes from Brittany, and this one's just
Speaker 3: an email. Brittany says, Dear Chelsea, I work in a
Speaker 3: male dominated environment, and it's all too common to hear
Speaker 3: about committed men having affairs on their partner. I recently
Speaker 3: learned about a guy from work, let's call him John,
Speaker 3: who was sleeping with a girl from my work, let's
Speaker 3: call her Jane. Neither John nor Jane are friends of mine. However,
Speaker 3: I was part of a wedding party this summer with
Speaker 3: John's wife, let's call her Sam. At this point, I
Speaker 3: knew about John and Jane's affair, but I was under
Speaker 3: the impression that it was short lived and had been
Speaker 3: over for a few months. Before this wedding, I was
Speaker 3: not friends with Sam and didn't feel like it was
Speaker 3: my place to say anything. But then I had a
Speaker 3: great bonding experience with Sam at the wedding and we
Speaker 3: said we should keep in touch, and I recently learned
Speaker 3: that John and Jane's affair is still ongoing. I feel
Speaker 3: terrible for Sam. She's a wonderful person, working mother of five,
Speaker 3: and I feel more inclined to say something at this point,
Speaker 3: but I'm still not sure if I'm the right person
Speaker 3: to do it, or that I should be getting involved
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: I just know that if it were.
Speaker 3: Me in this situation, I'd want to know that my
Speaker 3: husband was having an affair. So should I tell Sam
Speaker 3: or should I stay out of it? Best regards brittany An,
Speaker 3: I'll let.
Speaker 1: You go first on this.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I I feel like you have to tell her.
Speaker 5: I don't know unless it's been so long you think
Speaker 5: she even knows.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Obviously she's writing in right, it's on her chest and
Speaker 5: she knows that deep down she probably should tell her,
Speaker 5: but it wants to feel like, well, maybe if I don't,
Speaker 5: life will move on and it'll be better.
Speaker 1: This brought back.
Speaker 5: I literally am like, oh my god. I had a
Speaker 5: friend and I knew her boyfriend. She had said, I
Speaker 5: think he's cheating on me, cheating on me. And literally
Speaker 5: two years later I met a friend in LA and
Speaker 5: she was the one he was cheating on. And I
Speaker 5: connected these dots and I was like, oh, oh my god,
Speaker 5: do I tell my friend? Like I know, she didn't
Speaker 5: know who it was. And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: it's someone I know. That's awful, but and I think
Speaker 5: about it still. I ended up saying it after everyone.
Speaker 4: Was broken that no one was with the sky anymore.
Speaker 5: But I was like, yeah, if you know something and
Speaker 5: you respect this person, I would say, you know, be
Speaker 5: there for them and support them, and I would tell
Speaker 5: them maybe I'm I don't know, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be hard either way.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with more listen as a woman, there
Speaker 2: needs to be more honesty in this world not less honesty.
Speaker 1: As a woman, it is imperative.
Speaker 2: That we are honest with each other because we have
Speaker 2: been short shrifted our entire existence and lie to And
Speaker 2: as a woman, I would tell a stranger if I
Speaker 2: knew something about her life because I would want her
Speaker 2: to know, and she can do Listen, it's a new friend.
Speaker 2: It's not your close friends, so whatever. If she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be friends with you after, then that's fine too.
Speaker 2: But I think this is an opportunity for you to
Speaker 2: show up for someone in a way that is meaningful,
Speaker 2: because it is not fair for her to have five
Speaker 2: children and a husband who's having an affair while she's
Speaker 2: fucking doing everything.
Speaker 1: It's just not fair.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's in being an interloper when
Speaker 2: you're telling someone the truth, Like and I've had friendships
Speaker 2: end because of telling the truth, you know, But I
Speaker 2: will never stop telling people the truth, and I will
Speaker 2: never stop telling women the truth. There's a feeling inside
Speaker 2: of me, and I think many of us can relate
Speaker 2: to it. I'm sure I know both of you are
Speaker 2: going to agree with me that there is a sisterhood
Speaker 2: and we all owe it to each other to think
Speaker 2: of each other first before some guy. We need to
Speaker 2: be on each other's team, and that requires sometimes difficult conversations,
Speaker 2: but moreover, honesty.
Speaker 1: There is no way you can go wrong with being honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it'll be hard at first, but you know
Speaker 5: she'll be better for it, Like it will, she'll learn
Speaker 5: to handle this.
Speaker 2: It's not going to get where she might be like
Speaker 2: fuck you and I don't want to hear this and
Speaker 2: I don't believe you, and it might ruin your relationship, but.
Speaker 1: I still would do it. I would. I would say
Speaker 1: it's more important to be honest.
Speaker 3: Do you think there are any safeguards that she could
Speaker 3: take in telling because she works with this guy, Like,
Speaker 3: my one concern is that this is going to affect
Speaker 3: her career negatively because she'll be known as like the
Speaker 3: person who outed John like for having this affair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's going to be an issue.
Speaker 2: But they're just colleagues, right, Yeah, it's not like he's
Speaker 2: her boss or something that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not as far as I mean, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get into like don't tell them
Speaker 2: I told you, like that is all very Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like it's irrelevant.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, yeah, I'm telling on you and you're
Speaker 2: gonna hate me, so you're gonna just have to pony
Speaker 2: up to that. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: watch this happen. It's gross. I want to see it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes when we're carrying the weight of
Speaker 3: someone else's secrets, we don't give enough weight to how
Speaker 3: that affects us. Like I know someone who kept a
Speaker 3: very similar secret to this for years, for a long
Speaker 3: long time about something that was going on, and it
Speaker 3: really truly impacted her.
Speaker 1: Health in a in a huge way.
Speaker 3: So I think we can't really underestimate how how impactful
Speaker 3: carrying someone else's secrets can be.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I mean she.
Speaker 4: Lost me when she said she had five kids, Like
Speaker 4: she's home caring.
Speaker 5: For five kits and off a holiday party like looking
Speaker 5: up with someone like stakes are raised.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I just don't understand these women either that
Speaker 2: have affairs with men who have five children and have
Speaker 2: a wife at home, Like what are you telling yourself
Speaker 2: that this is a good this is a good karma
Speaker 2: for you and for there's there's children involved, Like, It's
Speaker 2: just it's gross.
Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway, brittany time to tattle okay.
Speaker 1: Anna Roisman, You've been such a delight. Anna. Tell everyone
Speaker 1: how they can watch you find you all of your shit.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 5: You can find me anywhere online at Anna Roisman A
Speaker 5: N N A R O I S M A N.
Speaker 5: I post a lot of dum celebrity impressions and stuff.
Speaker 5: I have fun doing it, you know, especially when they
Speaker 5: like it. When they don't like it. It's a little
Speaker 5: touch and go. But you know, for the most.
Speaker 1: Part, do you get a lot of feedback from celebrities
Speaker 1: who don't like it?
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: I used to get blocked from Instagram a lot.
Speaker 5: I get warnings a lot, and I think someone was
Speaker 5: reporting me, which was scary. And that's Hilaria Baldwin. And
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it now, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Laria Baldwin, what a mess.
Speaker 4: People think I'm her on diktok. It's a little scary.
Speaker 5: That was an accident. We do look alike, I guess
Speaker 5: you can say. But oh, and I want to say.
Speaker 5: You can listen to my podcast. It's called Big Wigs.
Speaker 5: My friend Andrea and I do impressions together. We do
Speaker 5: Chris and Courtney together, and we shoot the shit and
Speaker 5: talk about things that are in pop culture and we
Speaker 5: have fun.
Speaker 3: Hearing you two like do Chris and Courtney together at
Speaker 3: each other is hysterical.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's our show for today. And I hope
Speaker 2: I see you again. I'll see you when I'm in
Speaker 2: New York next.
Speaker 4: I would love that. I'll be in La also, I'll
Speaker 4: find you. I can't wait. I gotta go out with Jamie.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, good luck with everything. I love watching your success.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love you crushing it for a long time.
Speaker 2: So yes, I'll see you again soon. And thanks for
Speaker 2: coming on the podcast for having me.
Speaker 4: You're the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for sure.
Speaker 4: Thanks Anna.
Speaker 2: Bye, guys, thank you bye, okay bye, okay. So show
Speaker 2: dates coming up Canadian show dates. These are for Canadians, guys.
Speaker 2: I'm coming February ninth. I'll be in Winnipeg, Victoria, BC
Speaker 2: is March eighth. Then i will be in Salt Lake
Speaker 2: City April fourth, and Denver April fifth. I'm coming to
Speaker 2: Arizona at Maricopa April twelfth. April thirteen, I'll be in Brooks,
Speaker 2: California at the Cash Creek Casino, and then I'm going
Speaker 2: to be in Santa Rosa Sunday, April fourteenth. I'm coming
Speaker 2: to Richmond, Virginia, Baltimore, Maryland on April twentieth, Gary, Indiana,
Speaker 2: Prior Lake, Minnesota. Coming to Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma on May
Speaker 2: third and May fourth. I will be in Thackerville, Oklahoma
Speaker 2: for my rescheduled Windstar World Casino date. And I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that I give a shout out to
Speaker 2: our show for Netflix. As a joke Festival, I put
Speaker 2: together a show with some of my favorite comics. It's
Speaker 2: May eleventh at the YouTube Theater Downtown, which I've never
Speaker 2: performed in, so that's going to be fun. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty big I have Matteo Lane, I have Fortune Themester performing,
Speaker 2: I have Sam Jays on the show and Vanessa Gonzale.
Speaker 2: So we it is called a Jew two Mexicans, No
Speaker 2: a Jew, two gays in a Mexican, No a Jew.
Speaker 2: Three gays at a Mexican. So it's political correctness at
Speaker 2: its finest. And then I will be in Verona, New
Speaker 2: York on May twenty sixth, and then I'm coming to
Speaker 2: Australia in July and New Zealand July fifth, Auckland and
Speaker 2: I'm coming to Wellington, New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney.
Speaker 2: So those are all my dates for that are up
Speaker 2: and available, so get your tickets.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you. Yeah, that's it.
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