1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive here on the 4 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. West Shooler and Matt Williamson with you 5 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: for the next two hours here on a Wednesday, on 6 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: the eve of one of the best days of the year. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Of course, tomorrow is Thanksgiving. We will have no show tomorrow. 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: Will Black bet bit bit bit bit lit Litt will 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: be back with you on Black Friday. Easy for me 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: to say, so plenty to get to today, Matt. And 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: in the spirit of the holiday week, different week, We're 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna actually start off the program with a guest right 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: from the jump. 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: Very giving and. 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: It's very giving. And I also think it's fitting because 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: the Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, future Hall of Famer, missed 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: last week, of course against the Bears. Just spoke to 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: assembled members of the media. So let's talk to a 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: member of the media. It's our buddy, Chris Halleck, of course, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: covers the Steelers for dk Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, let's jump 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: right into it. 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: Man. 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: After Aaron Rodgers speaking this afternoon, how are we feeling 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: about his status? For Sunday against the Bills. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 5: I think it's pretty much the same from his perspective 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 5: as it was last week. It's, you know, he didn't 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: practice today, He's going to try to give it a 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: go tomorrow for on you know, for Thursday's practice. He's 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 5: going to try again on Friday. What he's trying to 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 5: do to get ready sounds a lot like what he 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 5: did last week. The difference here is not Aaron's perspective, 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: but Mike Tomlins perspective, because last week he was obviously 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: non committal for a very very good reason because Aaron 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: ended up not playing. But while this week it's a 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: very different story. I mean, Mike Commins said he has 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 5: great optimism about Aaron being able to return, and when 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: Aaron spoke to numbers of the media today, he talked about, like, 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: what's the thing that's going to change this week that 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 5: could help him play, and he just flied outside. It's 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: just time. It's time to be able to heal and 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: that that's pretty much it. So in terms of the 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 5: process for him, it doesn't change. I think if he 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: were the one deciding his fate AG's the Bears in Chicago, 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: he probably would have played but that obviously didn't work out, 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens this week. 46 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: So two other injuries, we already know Broderck Jones is 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: now we all know Harmon's out. Is why a Black 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: a direct replacement for Harmon? Or is that a committee situation? 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: And what do you expect to left tackle? 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: Calvin Anderson is going to be at left tackle for sure, 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: and then when it comes to replacing Harmon, I do 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: think it's going to be a bit of a committee. 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: I do think ya Black will get increase reps for 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: an obvious reason, just because you know, if if whether 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 5: that's you know him and like being a full on 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 5: replacement for Harmon, then obviously his snapcount is going to 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 5: go up. But you know, they got the one guy 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 5: and his name is escaping me right now. But the 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: one guy, yes, the new hyphenated dude. My apology to 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: that to that player, but he's he's also in the mix. 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 5: There there are a number of guys in the mix. 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: But I do see an increased workload for ya Black. 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: And the great thing there is that you know throughout 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: this entire process, you know he's been there for it all. 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 5: He knows the defense, He knows the system there. There's 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: no guessing UH in that regard, so it's a lot 67 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 5: more of just play. So I do think it's gonna 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 5: be world of of a you know, committee that's going 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: to help replace Horman. 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: How confident are you in why A Black sticking his 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: hand in the pile? I think he's been very good, 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: albeit in small sample sizes. Do you think he can 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: continue that with a with a larger share of the pie. 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I think he'll. He'll probably help a little 75 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: bit more against the run, and that's going to be 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: very important going up against the Bills team that currently 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 5: ranks number one in the NFL in in rushing. That's 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 5: new guys out there that can help stop the run. 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: And so I think this is a good week for 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 5: Wya Black to see an increased UH account his steps. 81 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 5: But again, players continue to grow. I think, you know, 82 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 5: even if he doesn't get back there and actually bring 83 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: Josh Allen down at all, maybe he can get those 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: gigantic mits up in the same way that he did 85 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 5: in Latrobe and bat down a of passes. You know 86 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: that there are different ways that guys can impact in 87 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: the passing game up front, and that's the one way 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 5: that he can do it. He's got really long arms, 89 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: he's a really tall dude. I think he can do 90 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: pretty good. I've also been pretty impressed with the way 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: he's played, especially considering that he was a fifth round pick. 92 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 5: There were no high expectations for him coming out of Iowa. 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: So I think it's a it's a good opportunity for him. 94 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: And again, you know, really stressing like the Steelers need 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 5: to stop the run this week. They like that. That's 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 5: that is paramount. Now. It's not like you want to 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: stop the run and say, Okay, we want to make 98 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: the quarterback feed us, because Josh Allen's pretty capable of 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: doing that. But still, you definitely the numbers kind of 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: speak for themselves. When James Cook doesn't run the ball well, 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: Bills typically don't win as many games as when he 102 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: does run well. So stopping the run is still is very, 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 5: very important, even though Josh Allen can absolutely do damage 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 5: with his arm too. 105 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish it was under these circumstances. But I 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: am excited to see more of the youngster. Yi Black, 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: I'm impressed. I'm excited about his future. Chris, this isn't 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: the normal type of question I ask you, but is 109 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: this team better in manner zone? I can't figure out 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: what to do in past defense? Or is there a 111 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: coverage scheme you think they should be stronger in or 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: weaker in or more predominant in. I know you know 113 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: this stuff, So dig in. 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: Can I Can I go in a different direction? Sure, 115 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: because I think I think there are weaknesses to both 116 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: with this the way the Steers play them. Yeah. Well, 117 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 5: because in man coverage. Now, there was an exception in 118 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: the game against the Bengals when we saw Kyle Duggar 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: intercept Joe Flacco and run it back for a touchdown. Typically, 120 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 5: when they play man coverage, it's cover one and they're 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 5: running man free. There's no hole defender in the middle 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: of the field, there's no linebacker dropping back and taking 123 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: away the middle. There's no safe crashing down and robbing 124 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: the middle of the field. That's been very very rare 125 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 5: this year, like I said, and the one real time 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: it changed was when Kyle Duggery intercepted a pass and 127 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: running back for a touchdown. In zone coverages, from what 128 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: I've seen and from my conversations with players, they're asking 129 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: players to do things that leave little margin for error. Yeah, 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: and and when that happened that it's the same it's 131 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: the same thing whenever we This is kind of the 132 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: the bone we were picking. One of the many bones 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 5: we were picking about Matt Cannon's offense when he was 134 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator was there was just so little room 135 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: for error on specific concepts that that whether it was 136 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: the details of the routes or whatever it was, it 137 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: was just so hard to execute plays because everybody, all 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: eleven guys, have to do their job absolutely perfectly, and 139 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: if it wasn't done to perfection, if one guy screwed up, 140 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: the whole play was blown up. And that's kind of 141 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: what I'm seeing. And that's kind of the reason why 142 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: I think there it's been so inconsistent because when they 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: have executed more often than not, they've looked really really good, 144 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: it's like really good. Now, when they haven't been able 145 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: to execute this consistently, they've looked really really bad. And 146 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 5: I think that's probably like that's what I deduce for exactly, yeah, 147 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: And I think, you know, and but then again, like 148 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: sometimes and I know Mike Commins didn't want to get 149 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: into it and in his press conference, but then there 150 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: are also times in which Ben Johnson just does what 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: a high school coach would do against spot drop cover 152 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: three and you just run four verts that like that's 153 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: that's their typical cover three beater, and the Steelers don't 154 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: have an answer for it. Like then there's also those 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: lapses and so it's just there are's not one issue, 156 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: and I think that's the that's the problem with this team. 157 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: I think it's why we've seen like we don't know 158 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: what team is going to show up on Sunday because 159 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: they'll play the Colts and they'll look great, they'll be 160 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: extra motivated because Jalen Ramsey and John Smith gave a 161 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: great speech the night before the game and they were 162 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: ready to go and they were motivated, they were sooned in. 163 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: And then there have been other games like this past 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 5: Sunday where it's just you know, I don't know, I 165 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: think I but that's what I deduced from it is 166 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 5: that I just don't think there's a there's a wide 167 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: margin for error, and when one guy out of eleven 168 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 5: screws up or doesn't execute it the perfect way, the 169 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: whole thing gets blown up. 170 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: Chris, last one I've got for you, Where can this 171 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: team start to find some momentum, start to find some 172 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: level footing on offense, it's been a struggle the last 173 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: few weeks. They've averaged less than twenty points per game. 174 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: As in offense, if you take away the handful of 175 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: defensive touchdowns against the Bengals and the Bears, and of 176 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: course just the ten points out there in Los Angeles 177 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: on Sunday night football. I mean, I know that there's 178 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: a lot of simplicity of get the run game back going, 179 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: you get some of the tight ends involved. But we've 180 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: been talking about these things for seemingly most of the 181 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: second half of the season so far. In your mind, 182 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: where does it start for this offense. Where can they 183 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: get a little momentum, Where can they get a little confidence? 184 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: Who are you looking to to kind of make some 185 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: plays and get everybody moving in the right direction. 186 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: I'm looking mainly at the run game, and I understand 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 5: that this is a team that just ran for one 188 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty six yards against the Bears. But that 189 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,479 Speaker 5: second half it was kind of the same thing, not exactly, 190 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 5: but kind of the same thing that I saw in 191 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: the loss to the Packers. They ran the ball really 192 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: well in the first half. They really kind of suck 193 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: to it. And then the second half they kind of 194 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 5: they have some downs where you think they're gonna run 195 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 5: and then they end up throwing. Like there was the 196 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: first down. I don't remember on what series it was 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 5: in the second half, but it was in the third quarter. There, 198 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: you know, they they run play action and it's not 199 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: a play action pass that that has an easy target 200 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 5: if if for whatever reason, your first read or second 201 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 5: read isn't there, and then you take a sack and 202 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, the run game is completely 203 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 5: taken away from that set of downs because now it's 204 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 5: second long, you have to throw to get to third 205 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 5: and manageable. Then you're at third manageable, you're definitely not 206 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: running the ball because you know, I mean, unless you're 207 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: I mean, there was the one time they ran on 208 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: third and seven, but typically if you're a third and seven, 209 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: third and eight, you're not running the ball. Sure, there's 210 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: just there's too much of that going on. When I 211 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: think both Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell, and I understand 212 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: about like the we could talk about the rotation of 213 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: Warren and Gainwell. I do think that Gainwell has at 214 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 5: least earned the right to be like for this to 215 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: really really be a tandem, if we could talk about 216 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 5: the way they're rotated as being an issue, but with 217 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 5: what they have with Warren and Gamewell and the way 218 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: that they're playing and the way that they're running the 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: ball and the way that they can both be utilized 220 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: as pass catchers as well, I really think the offense 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: needs to run through them and then allow that to 222 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: open things up for everybody else. I understand you want 223 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: to get DK metcats targets, but I also think that 224 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: DK Metcalf's targets can come a little bit easier if 225 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: you're forcing the defense to be like, all right, we 226 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: have to throw everything we possibly have at stopping the run, 227 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: at stopping these two guys out of the backfield, because 228 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 5: I don't I have not seen that commitment to getting 229 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: the run game going, even when they run for one 230 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty six yards. So I think that's where 231 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 5: it starts. And the Bills are not good against the run, 232 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 5: So this is another good week for them to try 233 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: to really do it. Almost run it add nauseum, like 234 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 5: like to a point where you might get fans to 235 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: go like, all right, would you just throw the ball already, Like, 236 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 5: I get it, But I think that's what they need 237 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 5: to do. They need to really really stick to run 238 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 5: on the ball and then allow the targets to manifest themselves. 239 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: Chris piggybacking off this and then we'll get you out 240 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: of here after this. How would you divide the labor 241 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: amongst the three tight ends? Oh? Man, it's a tough puzzle, 242 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: it is. 243 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: It is a tough puzzle because and it's a great 244 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 5: puzzle to have, because you know, Darnell is just so 245 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: dangerous in the number of ways. And I also want 246 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: to take advantage of Pat Firenmouth and Johnny Smith as well, 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 5: because they both do great things. I would still prefer 248 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 5: Darnell to kind of lead the snaps because you can 249 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 5: use him in so many different ways. But yes, absolutely, 250 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 5: because because he's such a good he's such a good 251 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: run blocker, and he's obviously shown what he can do 252 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 5: as a pass catcher, especially if you can get a 253 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: blocker out in front of him. Can you imagine a 254 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 5: tight end screen where he has, you know, even one 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 5: blocker in front of him, Like you're that's a good 256 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: way to create an explosive play right there, when it 257 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: comes to using Pat and John who I don't know 258 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 5: if it's necessarily about the like the workload, but how 259 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: they're using him, like John new Smith last year was 260 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: phenomenal after the catch and a lot of the passes 261 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 5: I'm seeing with John who are not putting him in 262 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: a position to get yack. They're in a position like 263 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: I understand, like they've tried to throw stuff to the 264 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: flat or you know, throw screens, and the problem is 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: they're not good at They're not good at playing those. 266 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: They have not been good at executing screens like that 267 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: for a long time. So what about some more inbreakers? 268 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: I lot some stuff attacking the scene, you know, stuff 269 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: like that. Uh, this guy had fifty five. I'm like, 270 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: he had eighty eight catches last with fifty five of 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: those move the chains and I don't even know if 272 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: he's gonna get the city five catches like total this year. 273 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing them running more horizontal, you know, 274 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: get him, try to hit him on the move, going 275 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: across the field, you. 276 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 5: Know, yeah, absolutely, and and that I mean, I think 277 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: a lot of people are trying to figure out now 278 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: why the middle of the field isn't being used as 279 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,359 Speaker 5: awesome as it should, but you know that that's an 280 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: entirely different topic that I think we can spend entire 281 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: segment on. But yeah, I when it comes to the 282 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: tight end, I think I don't know if it's necessarily 283 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: the way that they've been divving up the snaps as 284 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: it has been, like the proper way to utilize each guy. 285 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: I think they've kind of figured it out with Darnell. 286 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: I think they're actually using Darnell in a pretty good way. 287 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: I think that they could expand on that. But I 288 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: think with John who I just I don't see a 289 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 5: lot of opportunities to react with him, and that's something 290 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: that I would be trying to take advantage of it 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: if I had him on my roster. 292 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: Excellent stuff as always with our buddy Chris Hallick DK 293 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, thank you so much for the time 294 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: on a busy Wednesday, and have a great Thanksgiving dude. 295 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. 296 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: Hey, you too, Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. 297 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Take care Chris. There he goes. Awesome stuff from him. Yeah, 298 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff as always, and plenty to 299 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: ponder here as we get closer and closer to kick off. 300 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: We'll get back into more of that as we roll along. 301 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: When we return on the other side, though, Matt, we're 302 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: gonna have a little fun. We're gonna switch gears for 303 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: a few minutes. Okay, Best of the West Wednesday, O 304 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: best athlete statues I've ever seen? Okay, and there's two 305 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: from this past weekend that are gonna get a shout out. Wow, 306 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: Ewler Williamson, I'm not sure. 307 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: I don't have any comments on that. I don't know what. 308 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a few Pittsburgh ones, so you'll have some. 309 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: You'll have some, don't don't you worry. Don't you worry. 310 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: We'll have some fun with it when we retire in 311 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: Ewler Williamson The Drive, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers 312 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 2: Audio Network. 313 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 314 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals, Steelers Nation Radio. 315 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: It's back on the drive here as we roll along 316 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, the night before Thanksgiving, day before Thanksgiving. Everybody, 317 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: have some fun. But behave tonight, all right, Matt. Before 318 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: we get into Best of the West, some pretty big 319 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: news about a big name center. Yeah, returning to the 320 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: National Football League. 321 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 322 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: As we're recording this. My phone just lit up and 323 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: Frank Ragnow is coming out of retirement, Like wow. 324 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: I would imagine for the Lions. 325 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I assume they own his rights still. I mean, 326 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: I assume that's how it goes. He'd retired because of 327 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: a myriad of injuries. He must be feeling better and 328 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: say I'll help you down stretching into the playoffs. Welcome 329 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: back Due. 330 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: It'd be a big boost. 331 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: Brandon Graham's happened Philly. 332 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: It's a great call, and unfortunately that could help the 333 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Lions chances when the Steelers are there about a month 334 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: from now. 335 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the Steelers call probably in the building, out 336 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: of the booth. He's close now. You know, Ramon Foster 337 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: still around. 338 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean he's in Tennessee, but he, you know, was 339 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: around for preseason stuff. 340 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: I think Antonio Brown's a little occupied. 341 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that one's gonna moving on. 342 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: Matt Best of the West. 343 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: Of the West, A goofy, a goofy ish one for you. 344 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: But it's sports related. I like that. You know, as you. 345 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: Always storm in here, I don't know many statues. 346 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: As you always say, I'm sure there will be a 347 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: small percentage of people out there that are like, what 348 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: the heck, you'll er just talk about the bills. We 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: don't care, of course, but we have thirty segments a week. 350 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: We have thirty segments a week. We like to have 351 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: some fun with it. We're switch it up and so simple. 352 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Coolest best athletes with a statue that I've ever seen. 353 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: Okay, now you actually have to walk past them and 354 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: be there. 355 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: I've had to actually have seen them in person. Yes, 356 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: that's the kicker here, and big shout out to JT. 357 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: I went back and looked so on. On Saturday night, 358 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: I went to the Chicago Bulls game, hosted a picture 359 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: of the Michael Jordan statue and JT on my Instagram 360 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: and JT commented and was like, you should do it. 361 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: Best of the West, you know, best best athlete statues. 362 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: I'm cool with it. 363 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: I was like, sweet, love it. 364 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: Let's have them. One's pretty awesome. 365 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Though it might be at the top of the list. 366 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: Okay, it's gonna get matches, it's gonna. 367 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: Get mentioned for sure. A couple honorable mentions before we 368 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: get into the top ten. The Hammer and Hank statue 369 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: in Atlanta, Hank Era for the Brakes. I think it 370 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: was two years ago. Three years ago, the Steelers played 371 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: a preseason game in Atlanta. It was the one where 372 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: the offense was like two for two on Kenny Pickett 373 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: was humming Cordero Pattison. 374 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: You remember, like every time got the ball they scored. 375 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: It was like, and this was kind of the cherry 376 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: on top of just oh my goodness, this offense is 377 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: a look out. 378 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: It's in the regular season. 379 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: And they did not since that was in August, it 380 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: was obviously still baseball season. Mike Persudo our guy who 381 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna do a show with here in another hour 382 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: or two. It was like to myself and dan Quinlan 383 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: was like, come on, we're going to the Braves game. 384 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: Let's go. And we had a great time. We went 385 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: to the Braves game, pursued and I got beer, bats 386 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: and everything. But they have a really cool Braves museum 387 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: in the stadium in the bowels of the stadium, and 388 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: of course an awesome Hank Aaron statue there. That's just 389 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: hammer and Hank. 390 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: Great respect for Henry. 391 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Aaron absolutely and what he means to just the history 392 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: of sport right and of course baseball unbelievable. Unbelievable was 393 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: the home run king for so many years, and a 394 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: kind of similar the Willie Stargell statue at PNC Park. 395 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: Oh, Pops, I thought that might make it. 396 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a P and C Park statue 397 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: that's in the top ten. But I'm giving Pops an 398 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: honorable mention. And then one that I saw Sunday morning 399 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: walking into the. 400 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 3: Quick I mean, I think there was like a million 401 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: years in a row where the National League starting All 402 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: Star outfield was Clemenian right, Aaron and left. It's like, 403 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: that's a hard one to crack, dude. 404 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: That's one of those old timey things of sport. Like 405 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: I I wish the Major League Baseball All Star Game 406 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: was still as big as it. 407 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 408 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: It was a massive, big game. 409 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: You can play full war like Pete Rose doesn't have 410 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: to run over. 411 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Plate, but ninety nine percent of it. You can absolutely 412 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: play full boar. So Pops in an honorable mention, Hammer 413 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: and Hank in an honorable mention. And then a really 414 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: cool one that I saw Sunday morning outside of Soldier Field, 415 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: the Walter Payton statue, and it just says sweetness something 416 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: night on the plaque. It might be. 417 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: I mean, if we do best nickname. Someday that's going 418 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: to be really high on the list. 419 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: That's not a maybe, that's a good one. 420 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: Top top ten sports nicknames. All right, let's get into 421 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: the top ten here. Number ten western Pennsylvania's own, Latrobe's own, 422 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: the Arnold Palmer statue at the Latrobe Airport. 423 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I would say, is there one at Saint Vincent's. 424 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: I don't know about it. 425 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: It's across the street there at the airport. It's really cool. 426 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: I'n't been there for a while, but yeah, it's. 427 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: Like him with his golf club and he's got like 428 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: this smiling look on his face. Yeah, it's very cool. 429 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: It was probably five years ago, but I just posted 430 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: a picture of him on Twitter just smoking a cigarette 431 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: being a badass. Really yeah, like as golfers could be. 432 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: You know. It's like it's a little different back then 433 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: day a little bit. 434 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 435 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we're of course very thankful for his drink 436 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: concoction of iced tea and lemonade. A absolute legend icon 437 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: of Western Pennsylvania sports, no question. Arnold Palmer, his statue 438 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: at the latrob Beairport, his hometown is pretty cool and 439 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: pretty unique. Number nine I've kind of got a two 440 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: parter here and I've got a couple of these, but 441 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: I had shared with you I had been to lambeau 442 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: Field before, back in my working in minor league hockey days. 443 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 444 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 445 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: At lambeau Field, there's two really cool statues. The first 446 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: is a massive one of Vince Lombardi. This thing's like 447 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: ten feet twelve feet tall. 448 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: It was actually this trade is an average statue. 449 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: They're all questions. 450 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: They're probably bigger than they actually human. Oh yeah, most 451 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: of them. 452 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, probably a good eight to ten feet, I 453 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 2: would say, But this this one feels like ten to 454 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: twelve feet. It's this mass of Vince Lombardi. He's got 455 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: his hands in his trench coat pocket, he's got the 456 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: Fedora type hat on. Ye standing outside of the atrium 457 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool. And then right beside it, they 458 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: have a Lambeau Leap statue really where it's a cut 459 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: it's a cutout of like what the wall would be, 460 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: and it's the statue of Packers fans and you can 461 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: do a photo op Lambeau like you're the Leapy Leaper. 462 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. The combination of those two really cool there. 463 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: That's number nine, number eight. I'm gonna go with another 464 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: kind of by committee here, and I'm cheating a little 465 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: bit because they're more like busts than they are statues. 466 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: That's coming up next, okay, but number eight is John 467 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Elway and Terrell Davis at Mile High Stadium. 468 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: There next there. 469 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Next to each other, and it's like a it's not 470 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: a full statue, it's like a bust thing. But it's 471 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: really cool having those too, next to each other, the cutouts, 472 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: and as you know, I love those two guys growing 473 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: up as a football fan. So Lway and TD right 474 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: next to each other outside a Mile High is number 475 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: eight on my list. 476 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Cool. 477 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: You mentioned the Yankees. They're monuments though Monument Park, and 478 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: again this is kind of cheating. It's a little bit, 479 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: a little bit like Lay and Terel Davis. It's not 480 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: just a pure statue. But if you ever go to 481 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium, which I did once in twenty and eighteen, 482 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: they have a whole area called Monument Park. Now it 483 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: closes down an hour before the game starts, so you 484 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: got to get into the stadium pretty early to see it. 485 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: But it's totally worth it. It's monuments of every Yankees 486 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: retired number, which is like twenty some numbers from Rude 487 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Garrettmaggio to Jeter and Mariano Rivera and those guys, they 488 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: all have a monument. They all have like a plaque 489 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: and their number and a little bit about the player. 490 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: It's like almost like. 491 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: A it's kind of like a graveyard on kind of 492 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: like a grave. 493 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna say a garden to like it up 494 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: a little bit, but it's a it's it's awesome that 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: the history of it, the eras, the years it spans. 496 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: It's really pretty with flowers and all kinds of stuff too. 497 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: Monument Park at Yankee Stadium checks in at number seven, 498 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: like it, you're gonna allow me to be a touch 499 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: of touch of Homer here for a second. 500 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: I definitely would, Well, we're gonna do I Also, I 501 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: haven't seen them an statues, and I have seen the 502 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: ones in Pittsford. 503 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna do that with the yins or statues here 504 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: in a second. But checking in at number six in 505 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: good old Morgantown, West Virginia, the Jerry West statue outside. 506 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: Of the study of You Colisea is West Virginia ever 507 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: had a football player good enough to make a statue. 508 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean maybe Chuck Halley or Sam Huff. You know 509 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: you heard of those guys. A super Bowl MVP Chuck Halley, 510 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: No big deal, it's a long time ago. 511 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: You know. 512 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: You pit guys love to talk about your NFL success. 513 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a Super Bowl MVP? 514 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: Huh? 515 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: That's on even don't even go down that road. 516 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a Super Bowl MVP? Huh. 517 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm not much a pick guy, but you can't have 518 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: that cover. 519 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm going with the NBA MVP WV on the short 520 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: list of like seven universities that has produced that both 521 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: an NBA and NFL well, Super Bowl and NBA Finals MVP. 522 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: But the Jerry West statue outside of the WU colisseum, 523 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: I'm cheating a little bit, but come on, he's the 524 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: logo of the friggin' NBA. 525 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: That's not cheating. 526 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: That's not cheating. It's the logo of the NBA statue 527 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: outside of the WVU colisseum. 528 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: So it's the same pose. 529 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, it's it's it's really cool. It's got 530 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: lights on it, and like when it snows and the 531 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: lights are shining, it's awesome. That's number six for me. 532 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: The Jerry West logo statue in Morgantown outside of the 533 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 2: Colisseum into the top five. Number five, And if it 534 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: wasn't for the history element, this might just be the 535 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: purest architecture of a statue I've ever seen Shack statue 536 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: outside of whatever they call the Staples Center now Crypto 537 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: dot Com Arena or whatever it is in La. It's 538 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: Shack like tearing down a basketball rim, like it's a 539 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: hanging statue. It's like two handing dunking on the rim 540 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: and the backboard. And it's really cool because it's just 541 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: so different from what you normally see of a statue. 542 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: Guys, you know, I mean, right. 543 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: That's the post. It's like a statue that's kind of 544 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: mounted into the wall and hangs. It's really it's really unique, 545 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: and it's really cool. And I grew up loving Shack. 546 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 2: So that one's got that's got a cool angle. That's 547 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: number five. All right, now, we're really gonna go touch 548 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: a Homer, and Yin's out here for a minute. Number 549 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: four the Roberto Clemente statue at PNC Park. 550 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you're definitely allowed to be a Homer iconic player. 551 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: It's an awesome statue. He's massive. He's doing the swing 552 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: with the baseball bat. 553 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big statue. 554 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Huge statue. One of the greatest baseball players of all time, 555 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: one of the greatest ambassadors of Pittsburgh sports of all time. 556 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: Roberto Clemente checks in at number four. 557 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: There's a two hour Clemeny documentary on the History Channel, 558 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: like go month or two months, probably longer than I thought. Well, 559 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: worse people time to check out. 560 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: It's on History Channel. 561 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: I think it was on the History Channel. 562 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen that. I will it's recent, Okay, 563 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: I'll have. 564 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: To respect for him if you're especially the younger folks. 565 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I mean again, he's before my time. 566 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: But we're gonna stay here in Pittsburgh. Matt number three 567 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: Swiss all Swiss. Oh yeah, split in the two defenders 568 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: of the Minnesota North Star's iconic moment that helped the 569 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: Penguins capture their first Stanley Cup in franchise history. Right 570 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: there on Fifth Avenue. The Lemux statue aws Some checks 571 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: in at number three. 572 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 3: So just a quick side note, especially because you put 573 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: those two next to each other. My uncle Clementy died 574 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: in ninety one. I was born ninety or seventy three 575 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: and seventy one, respectively. My uncle's about ten twelve years 576 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: older than me. He's the one that like gotten took. 577 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: Me to three rivers and I've got some uncles like that. 578 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: And it was like a thanksgiving or some event in 579 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: him and I are chat and then he's like, oh, 580 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: what's my damn password again? He's like Clementy twenty one. 581 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm like idel music six like it is. You both 582 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: said it like at the exact same time, you know, like, 583 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: h my Lemieux is his Clementing. 584 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know absolutely, Yeah. I love that. 585 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: That's really cool, Like everything's the music. She says, He's 586 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 3: all one. 587 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: This was the toughest part was differentiating my the yinser here. 588 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: So I had the yinsers here, So I had Clementy four 589 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: Swiss on Swiss three. But you gotta go the Franco 590 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: statue at the airport number two. 591 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: I didn't even consider that a statue. 592 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: That might be kind of cheating there a little bit, 593 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: but it's it's full color. It's an iconic part of 594 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: an of of an airport. Like people like, where's the 595 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: Franco statue? Oh yeah, roll into Pittsburgh. It's one of 596 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: those things that everybody talks about. It is the most 597 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: iconic moment in the century plus long history of the 598 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: National Football League, him picking the ball off the ground 599 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: for the immaculate reception. Franco checks in at number two. 600 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: It's a great one. I would have even thought of 601 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: that as a statue, but just because it's color, you know, 602 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: but it definitely counts and it is a statue. I've 603 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: regurgitated this joke on this show probably five times over 604 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: the years. But I was probably sixteen seventeen eighteen before 605 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: I knew. I think I like asked my parents when 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: we got off the plane. I'm like, who's the guy 607 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: next to Franco again? Like this George Washington dumbass? 608 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Probably a lot of Pittsburgh kids. 609 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: Didn't even pay attention to dude on the other side, 610 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: Like who's the guy in the blue cove? 611 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: Right? 612 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: Like I don't. I mean, I passed that thing. Like 613 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: we didn't travel much growing up, and maybe twice a 614 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: year I was at the at the airport and I 615 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: checked out Franco and like, I remember, there's somebody else there. 616 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: I was well into my teens or maybe, which is funny, 617 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: like who's the other one. 618 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: That's like George Washington speaks to how it is right, right, right, 619 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: and how important it is. That's why it's number two 620 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: on the list. 621 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: But you see the t Rex and I mean, like 622 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: you forget about the other guy, You forget all about 623 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: the t Rex and George Washington. 624 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Then number one, the best there ever was, the best 625 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: there ever will be. Twenty Jordan the Airman. Michael Jordan's 626 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: is it him? 627 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: Like it's the Jordan logo. 628 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the most iconic athlete silhouette in the 629 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: history of sports. Is the Jordan the Jordan logo. 630 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the jump man or whatever. 631 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Most I launched an entire billion dollar brand, made Nike 632 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: what Nike is, and the Jordan brand attached to it. 633 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: And I told you it just I really like some 634 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: of the inscriptions on the statues, Like I love how 635 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: for Walter Payton it just says sweetness, big, huge, bold 636 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: capital letters, just one word. Michael Jordan's it says Michael 637 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: Jordan's the best there ever, was, the best there ever 638 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: will be. And I'm like, really good, that's freaking awesome. 639 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: Okay, So I have two I want to throw out there, 640 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: neither of which I've seen in person, and one may 641 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: not even exist. The Detroit boxing glove that counts as 642 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: a statue. 643 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: You know what? 644 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: That would be on the list. 645 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: I didn't think because I have seen that it was 646 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: pretty cool. I didn't think about that. 647 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: But that's because it's not a person. But I think 648 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: that's good. 649 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: It's a sports statue outside the box. That's a very 650 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: outside the box, but very good. 651 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't you would know. I don't actually think this 652 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: is standing there, but Balbo at the top of the steps, 653 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: it is? 654 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: It is there? Oh yeah, it's not at the top 655 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: of the steps anymore. It's at the side of the steps. 656 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: That's still right there. 657 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: I thought, I'm almost certain it's not at the top 658 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: of the steps. 659 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: I thought about that one. I did that one might 660 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: have to be one because it's so iconic in. 661 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: When people run the steps just to do this. 662 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, a real athlete. I mean in Philadelphia they fantasy. 663 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: You finally won some championships, all right, the Eagles got 664 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: two Super Bowls. 665 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: Pretty often. 666 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: You can I confess something for just a minute. Yeah, 667 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that until you just mentioned. 668 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: I was just trying to think real outside the box. 669 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: It real outside the box from movies. I'm like, is 670 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: there any from like Major League. 671 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: That might be though the most photo sought after statue. 672 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: That certainly run the steps. 673 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: And that's why there's some complaint now because you can't, 674 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: like I mean, you can still run the steps, but 675 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: the statues off to the side. They hadn't moved the 676 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: statue off to the side because it was such a 677 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: tourist attraction, Like people couldn't get in and out of 678 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: the art museum because. 679 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: Everyone those three years, people take as many pictures as 680 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: the Lincoln Memorial. 681 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: Matt the three years that I lived in Philly, I 682 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: would actually my wife and I lived just like a 683 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: mile and a half two miles away from that, so 684 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: I would always drive that way to get to our 685 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: studios on game days when I was working the Eagles broadcasts. 686 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: The amount of times on Sundays that like I'd be 687 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: trying to get through downtown Philly in that area was 688 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: just a traffic jam. Viking Vikings fans or Steelers fans 689 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: who they're playing floated with people that are. 690 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: Not Wednesday at noon, Yeah, but I probably somebody there Wednesday. 691 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely weekends all the time, holidays like July fourth, Memorial Day, 692 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: you name it, packed zoo, forget about it. It's a 693 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: really good one by you. 694 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: That's a great one. 695 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully my in laws aren't listening right now 696 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: on their way out from Philadelphia to spend a couple 697 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: of days with us for Thanks. 698 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: Hear about it a lot. 699 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: They'd be very upset with me. But that's your adang, Ma, 700 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: that's a good I've seen that probably more aside from 701 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh statues and the Jerry West statues there. Drove 702 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: past that thing almost every day for the three years 703 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: that I lived in Philly. 704 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: Is probably some cool one in Oregon or Maine or 705 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: something we don't think about it. 706 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 2: There's some, I mean some great ones across the across 707 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: the country. I'm one, no doubt. Like the Pat Tillman 708 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: one out of Arizona State is really cool. 709 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that'd be a good one. 710 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: Dang is a good one, Matt, to show you up 711 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: best of the Matt on a Wednesday. There it is 712 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: thanks to to j t On on Instagram. Coolest athlete, 713 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: best athlete statues I've ever seen? And uh, some really 714 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: cool ones here in Pittsburgh that Michael Jordan won, though 715 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: tough to beat man like the most iconic silhouette of 716 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: any athlete in sports history. Let's take a break. When 717 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: we return. On the other side, we've got the Steelers' 718 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: latest practice report across the timeline. Same for the Bills. 719 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: Good. I have not heard anything about the Bills, especially 720 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: in a long week. There's some guys I'm interested in. 721 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: There's some interesting stuff in there for the Steelers. There's 722 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: some real big stuff in there for Buffalo. We'll do 723 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: that when we return. Wesheeler, Matt Williamson, It's the Drive 724 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your. 725 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home 726 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 727 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: All right, real quick, before we get into the injury reports. 728 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: We went to break there in the previous segment talking 729 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: about statues and our video producer statistician mister do it all. Hey, Matt, 730 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: don't tell him I said this, but he's a big 731 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: part of the show. Tyler, Mister TV goes, what about 732 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: the chief statue here? 733 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: I didn't even think of it either. 734 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: I didn't think of it either for two reasons. One, 735 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm never on that side of the stadium like I yeh, 736 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: I park over on the science. I've been doing this 737 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 2: for you. I walk past that statue. 738 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: Two, he's not an athlete, that is true. 739 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: I did say best athletes. That's the that's the kicker, 740 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: because no one else on there was like an owner 741 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: or a except for Jerry West. 742 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: But he was yeah, yeah. 743 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: I guess two technically, but he was an athlete. That 744 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: saved my bacon by a technicality there. But I also 745 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: it's to the Franco thing too. I don't think when 746 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: you think of the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's part of why 747 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: we love them. You don't think about mascots and all 748 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: due respect to our guys Steely mcbeam. You don't think 749 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: about and cheerleaders and statues and retired numbers. The Steelers 750 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: don't do that stuff. 751 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: Marching bands and nonsense. You know, like you go to. 752 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: You go to Foxborough and there's a Tom Brady statue 753 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: and there's they got the six banners hanging up and yeah, 754 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: you go to the Link, you go to Philadelphia and 755 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: there's a Nick Foles and Doug Peterson's statue and they've 756 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: got the banners hanging up Pittsburgh. Don't do that nonsense. 757 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: You got our terrible pals and that's it. It's pretty awesome. 758 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: It is pretty awesome, cigar and everything. It's pretty sweet. 759 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: But along those lines, like when you sprung that on me, 760 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 3: I start thinking of them. I'm like, well, Clement, you'll 761 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: be on there. Even took me a while to come 762 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: up with you. And that's my guy. Like, I just 763 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: didn't think Pittsburgh statues because it's for those reasons. You know, 764 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 3: it's not, you know, a bunch of hoopla. 765 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: You know, you saved me on the technicality that I 766 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: did many times say athletes. 767 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: We'll get on. I wouldn't have thought of it though. 768 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: Miss the Chief statues just in its own category. It 769 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: can't be ranked with these amateurs. It's it's in its 770 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: own it's in its own league. Obviously, good stuff from 771 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: TV the Matt. Let's get into the from TV to 772 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: I R. Let's get into the injury report for both 773 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: of these teams. You want Bills first or Stillers first. 774 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: TV Bills are Stillers, Okay. Buffalo Bills head coach Saan 775 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: McDermott said today Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown will not practice 776 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Did not practice on Wednesday. Dawkins in concussion protocol, 777 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: which is important to note as well. Also Bernard Kincaid 778 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: and Curtis Samuel did not practice either. So the linebacker Bernard, 779 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: the tight end obviously Dalton Kincaid, and wide receiver Curtis 780 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: Samuel did not practice Wednesday. 781 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So Dawkins is an excellent left tackle. 782 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: Excellent, one of the more underrated left tackles in the 783 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,479 Speaker 2: national football no question. 784 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 3: He's been kind of a stalwart for years. Unorthodox. I mean, 785 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,959 Speaker 3: he just doesn't look the party. 786 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: It looks like a guard all day. 787 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 3: So I'm pulling up something here real quick. 788 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: You need me to fill a buster for you? 789 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, not the moment. We'll talk tackles first, but I'm 790 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: just trying to There's some Kincaid numbers I found this morning. 791 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring up Spencer Brown's also an excellent right tackle. 792 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: He's developmental Northern Iowa third round pick. Project. 793 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: The offensive line or the Browns the part of me, 794 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: The Bills offensive line is underrated. 795 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: It's very very good, and they develop talent well, you know, 796 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 3: like very different from one six 's eight and looks 797 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: like a former tight end that he was, and one's 798 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: kind of a round looking guard, but they still get 799 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: great production from both. Both were very not healthy for 800 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: that Texans eight Sac mess on Thursday night against awesome 801 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: edge rushers, but I would say Steelers ed rushers are 802 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: in that category or in that neighborhood. Dawkins finished the game, 803 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 3: so concussion was not what I was thinking with him. 804 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: Brown did not, and I kind of thought, man, he 805 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: might be out a couple of weeks. Just watching the game, 806 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: you could tell he was really really hurting. Look a 807 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: filibuster for a minute. 808 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: A Look, Well, I was just gonna say, Dawkins in 809 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 2: concussion protocol, typically that's kind of become like a kiss 810 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: of death. I wonder, though, with the three extra days 811 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: of rest, if he's got more of a chance. He 812 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: didn't get a concussion on Sunday, he got it on Thursday. 813 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: There's that three extra days of rest factor for Buffalo 814 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: coming into this one as well, So I wonder if 815 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: that gives Dawkins. I mean, I'm sure it does give 816 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: him a greater opportunity to play, and how much that factors. 817 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: In, I'm sure it does. Okay, Kincaid is really important 818 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: to them, Oh, big time. Yeah, he's been sort of 819 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: a disappointment after being a first round pick until this 820 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: year he's really stepped up in a big way. And 821 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 3: him being out these last two weeks maybe three, they've 822 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: missed him a lot because he's kind of their closest 823 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: thing to a number one receiver. And I saw these numbers, 824 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, that's a big deal for someone 825 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: you don't look of in that light. So in his 826 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: eight games with Kincaid, Allen has a seventy two percent 827 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: completion percentage and a thirteen to three touchdown to interception ratio. 828 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: Really good numbers, but nothing Alan does shocks anybody at 829 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 3: this point. 830 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: Did you hear what Cam Heyward said about him today? No, 831 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 2: he's perhaps the NFL's best superhero, like something along along 832 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: those lines. Doesn't better than anybody. 833 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: So in the three games without Kincaid, he's only completing 834 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: sixty four percent of his passes as opposed to seventy two, 835 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 3: and he's got a five to six touchdown to interception ratio. 836 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: He's got a negative touchdown interception ratio. Now, it's only 837 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 3: three games, but he's super important to them, oh somewhat 838 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: by default because they don't really have a number one receiver. 839 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: Here's what we know about Here's what we know about that. 840 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: None of those dudes practice. 841 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: None of those guys practiced. We again will not have 842 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: a show tomorrow, but will obviously Friday. Regent revisit injury 843 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 2: reports for your Pittsburg stillers. Not a ton of surprise here. 844 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: Metcalf did not practice today with the ankle. I think 845 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: you would have maybe like to see him limited, but 846 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't shock I bet you know. Aaron Rodgers did 847 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: not practice today. I bet you that was probably the 848 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: plan all along. 849 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 3: Probably, but I just want to make sure people know 850 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 3: he does not take those veteran Wednesdays. 851 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 4: No, he did last week with the rest more injury. 852 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: Once again, absolutely, Ben Skronick did not practice with that 853 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 2: shoulder injury today Wednesday. 854 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 5: Uh. 855 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: And then obviously Roger Jones, Derek Harmon as we already 856 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: been they've been, they've been ruled out. Uh, let's see, 857 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: and then limited today in practice, Joey Porter Junior with 858 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: the hip. So him being out there I think is 859 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: a good sign. Alex high Smith limited with the peck 860 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: and Cam Hayward limited with an ankle. 861 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: And Cam on a Wednesday I never think anything about 862 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 3: it either way. 863 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: Like like Isaac Samalho was limited with rest. 864 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: He's another one on. 865 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 2: So Metcalf, Rogers chronic and the two that have been 866 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: ruled out Broderick and Derek Harmon did not practice pas Junior, 867 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: high Smith, Cam Hayward limited in practice. 868 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 3: A lot of big names if you combine those two practice, 869 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean this whole segment the names were talking about. 870 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 2: It's that time of year. Two injuries are piling up. 871 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: But that's kind of where we stand with what we 872 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: know here on this onnes I expected the. 873 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: Bills to be in a little bit better shape on Wednesday, 874 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 3: after a long. 875 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 2: Week, after three days, get you excited. 876 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 3: Golden rule on injury reports, folks is Wednesday stuff. Don't 877 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: get too excited, but it is noteworthy. High Smith, Porter 878 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: Metcalf are the ones I'm kind of keeping an eye 879 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 3: on most of Steelers. 880 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: When we return on Friday. That might be where we 881 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: start is with the conversation of here's what Thursday's practice 882 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: report looked like, and. 883 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 3: It might be Roger's completely back, right, be great? 884 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be. You know, Joey Porter Junior was 885 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 2: a full practice participant. High Smith was was was full. 886 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: However that looks, but yeah, that'll be certainly some thing. 887 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: You know, check your social media tomorrow when you're in 888 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: the middle of your second or third round of tripto 889 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: fans and see what the Thursday practice report looks like. 890 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: Hour in the books, another hour ago. When we come 891 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: back on the other side, Matt, we have to talk 892 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 2: a little bit about the Thanksgiving games, the Black Friday game. 893 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: We've got to do our Buffalo Bills, pick a player, 894 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: talk about some Matt's stats. But when we kick off 895 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: our number two, what do you say we go around 896 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: campus nice for our weekly quarterback college quarterback check in. 897 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: We'll do all that and more in our number two 898 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: West Shouler Matt Williamson. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation 899 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.