1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey are you Hey? What's up? 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 2: Man? 3 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: What's your name? My name is James, James. What's going on? 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 3: James? 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: What you want to talk about today? 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: Well, uh, there is one thing that I wanted to 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: say to you specifically. Sure before I get into talking 8 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: about what I want to. 9 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: About, I'm a little nervous. What's up? 10 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: No, No, don't be nervous. I feel like you rag 11 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: on yourself all the time for not being so knowledgeable 12 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: about stuff. But I want you to realize that, you know, 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: people don't really come to you to understand everything. I 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: think what people really like about you and your channel 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: is the fact that you have an interesting way of 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: thinking about things, and you're very open and accepted that. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Man, that's incredibly sweety to say. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just it really sucks whenever you rag 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: on yourself. You know, sorry, you gotta forgive me. I'm 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: kind of nervous. 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: No, you're making me, you're making me tear up and yours. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: It's a serious, serious, sweet guy, James, appreciate that. I 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Uh, Well, this is this is well, this 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: is nice. Well ship. Well, thanks, thanks, I'm trying my best. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best Yeah, it's hard. It's like, it's 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: a difficult So I'd not say I feel like a 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: fucking uh pussy sometimes, but it's a difficult. It feels 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: like a very difficult show to do, and I'm trying 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: my best. So thanks man. Well what's what's what's up 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: with you, James? What else is going on? 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: Well, I actually got out of a six and a 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: half year relationship not too long ago, a couple of 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: months ago, and it did suck at the time, but 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I was able to find peace relatively quickly, 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: and I think you're sharing that might help people who 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: are going through similar situations. Yeah. 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you were with this lady for six years 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: and then when when did you guys break up? 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: We broke up in March earlier this year. 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: And what was it that helped helped you gain peace? 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, the thing that honestly really helped me gain peace 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: was just coming to accept the fact that a lot 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: of the things that she broke up with me over 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: were definitely issues in the past. But I looked at 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: myself as a completely different person than, you know, the 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: guy who made a lot of the mistakes that I 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: had in the past. A lot of the issues that 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: she cited were you know, years old at the time, 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: and I definitely had made progress to being the person 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: that I wanted to be, yeah, and definitely a better 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: partner to her. But I realized that, you know, even 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: though that I felt as if I was worthy for 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: forgiveness of the past, she didn't necessarily owe it today. 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: And just realizing that I had made progress from you know, 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: being somebody who I didn't really like and becoming a 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: better father and a better, better partner overall, just a 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: better person, really stepping up and providing. I realized that, 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: you know, my history is always going to be a 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: part of me, for sure, and some people may dislike it, 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: some people may be okay with it, not really care. 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: But the thing is, as long as you're progressing, you 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: gotta you gotta appreciate that. You gotta You can't you 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: can't derive happiness from, you know, things that you expect 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: to come out of life, only what progress you've been 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: able to make in the time that you're doing you know. 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, you sound like you've been You've 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: really been thinking a lot about uh, your life either 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: with a therapist or with your just in your brain. 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't ever talked to a therapist. 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Well, you seem like you've been you you're you know 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: that what who the who's fucking quote is it? It's 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: like someone of the guy in one of those fucking 76 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: old Greek god They were like, uh, something about the 77 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: unexamined life. You sound like you've you've been examining your 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: life a lot recently, coming to some of the conclusions. 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: I knew that all the time. I feel like I'm 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: a very holy analytical person, honestly. 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, how can I hold you are? 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: I'm twenty three and you have a kid? Yeah? 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Has he? How has your kid doing? 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh? She's probably the happiest two year old I know 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: any Like everybody's talks about terrible twos, but on she's 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: just like always happy and playful, and she only cries 87 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 3: like maybe once a week. You know, sometimes she throws 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: a little bit of temper tantrums, But I feel like 89 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: it's very easy to calm her down too, because you 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: just got to sit down and talk to her, look 91 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: her in the base and make her feel like she's 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: being hurt and what she wants. 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: Has it? Has it? Been are you is? And did 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: you have this kid with the girlfriend that you were 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: talking about? 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were high school sweethearts, got out of 97 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: high school. We were together for about four years when 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: she got pregnant, three and a half years or so 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: when my ex got pregnant, and you know, we had 100 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: the kid. And then after having after my daughter was 101 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: about one years old, is when you broke things? All? 102 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Has it? How has it been? Has it been sharing 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: custody and all that stuff? 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's actually been. That was something that I 105 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: was really nervous about because I I feel like she's 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: somewhat of a vindictive person. I thought she would have 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: tried a lot harder to use my child against me, 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: you know, but she honestly has been very cooperative about 109 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: the whole thing. We've had some differences and what we 110 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: want to do with ever release sometimes, but you know, 111 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: we sorry that's my daughter's name, by the way, But 112 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: you know, honestly, it hasn't been the worst. We've been 113 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: able to stay out of court for most things. You know, 114 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm making child support payments and everything like that, keeping 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: it all documented and everything. But outside of that, we 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: can usually come to an agreement about most things. 117 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: M What do you do for work? Oh? 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: I do paintless dent repair. I'm actually at my job 119 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: right now. I just I take dents out of cars 120 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: without needing to repaint them, basically just massage the metal 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 3: back into place. Mm hmm, and uh get paid pretty 122 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: damn well too. 123 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Do you do you do you feel peaceful. 124 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: Like at my job? 125 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: It's in general? 126 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, honestly. Now I'm nervous. 127 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: You know what? What? What? What made? 128 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: What? 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: In general? Makes you feel peaceful? 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: I just honestly feel like I I have hope for 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: the future, and I can also look at where I 132 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: have been at in the past and the fact that 133 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: there were so many rough things that I had to 134 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: push through to get to where I am now, so 135 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: where it doesn't really matter what's coming in the future. 136 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: I just know that I will be able to handle 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: her to the most, you know, like I had who 138 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, I've given too much information about myself. I 139 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: don't know if I want to delve too deep into 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: the past. Whatever you want, man, Yeah, well, I've gotten 141 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: over a lot of addictions in the past. I used 142 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: to be addicted to pretty much, you know, anything I 143 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: could get my hands onto cut all that out. When 144 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: I learned my ex was pregnant, there was just you know, 145 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: I also started a business a while back doing paintless. 146 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Didn't repair, and I was able to buy a house 147 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 3: at twenty one. Cool gone now of course, because we 148 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: broke up. You know, I just feel like I've been 149 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: through quite a bit and I've always come out, you know, 150 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: in a relatively better spot. So I just don't have 151 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: to really worry about what's coming, just knowing that I 152 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: can be confident in my abilities to take care of it. 153 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: You know. 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I'm constantly, just to guess, relate 155 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: to you in some way. I feel like I'm I'm 156 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: constantly uh searching after a sense of security in in 157 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: my life, and I think I'm always well, it's like 158 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I talk so much because I only because I think 159 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: about it so much about how how much of life 160 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: is kind of internal versus external, And I think I 161 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: search for a lot of my security externally, and I 162 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: find a lot of security and external things. But what 163 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about just the this this like the security 164 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: in this innate belief that you have you know exactly 165 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: who you are and what you're capable of and what 166 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: you can withstand and and like that, nobody can ever 167 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: take that away from you. Is it really is a 168 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: powerful form of of internal security that can that can 169 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: even over a lot of things we try to find 170 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: external security in, like like relationships or things like that, 171 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's it's crazy, because a lot 172 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: of that stuff is out of our control. But that 173 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we want to negate its existence and ignore 174 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: it and be fucking you know, monks and whatever. 175 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: Uh oh, But that that is a modern development for 176 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: me as well, like very recent development for me as well. 177 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: Because I was doing that, I was pulling a lot 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,359 Speaker 3: of you know, peace of mind out of my relationship. 179 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: Because we were together for six years, we had been 180 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: through a lot, so I thought everything was completely unshakeable 181 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: in terms of that, and instead of seeing me as myself, 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: I kind of saw myself as a partner, you know, 183 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: or a provider, a father. And I was pulling a 184 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: lot of my piece out of being a part of 185 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: everything that I was involved in rather than who I 186 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: was as a person. You know, it was my relationships 187 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: and the thing that I had accomplished, right, rather than 188 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: that I can't accomplish and knowing what struggles I have 189 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: been through to become a better person. 190 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Right, well, it's so fucking weird, man, because I think 191 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: that there's uh, there's like there's gotta be some balance 192 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: or some place on a spectrum, because I do think 193 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: it's important to really like have other people that you 194 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: care about and that are part of your I mean, 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: that's I guess what's nice about being a dad, it seems, 196 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: is that you have this other person that you like, 197 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: you have you have something that's not just yourself to 198 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: really really really strongly care about and that like needs you. 199 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: It's just for certain, for certain, especially because you know, 200 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: after and it happened, I'm quit my job and I 201 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: was in a different state at the time that we 202 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: broke up. She just poke up with me over text, 203 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy after six years. But regardless, 204 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: I almost just quit my job right then, drove the 205 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: five hours home and just try to fix things, and 206 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: you know that didn't work out. I didn't do that. 207 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: So having my daughter there really also kept it in 208 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: the back of my mind that I need to keep 209 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: this job. I need to dig through, you know, and 210 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: also I need to push past my feelings and not 211 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: just feel down like I have a reason that I 212 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 3: need to keep on going. I can't just walk and 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: quit out on my Well. 214 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you said, well, I'm so happy to 215 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: hear that you've been able to build a really strong 216 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: sense of like internal confidence. That's that's not easy to 217 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: do and it's important. So I'm glad to hear you 218 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: were able to do it. What, uh, what do you 219 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: want to do with that internal confidence? What's the next 220 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: in your life? King? 221 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: Uh? You're asking me, like, what my long term goals are? Yes, yeah, 222 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 3: I have like, okay, I have realistic, I have ridiculous, 223 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: and I have somewhat in the middle of what do 224 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: What do you want? Birds? Uh? 225 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: You have realistic ridiculous, and so let's start with ridiculous. 226 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Let's why only go from ridiculous and work our way 227 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: back to earth. 228 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: Ridiculous. This is definitely people are going to know exactly 229 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 3: who I am after I say this, But. 230 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Why are you? Are you scud? Let's let you talk. 231 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: I tell everybody this, But I really want to be 232 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 3: a space pirate. I want to I want to Uh, 233 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: I really want to study electrical engineering and aerospace engineering 234 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: to create maybe a a better type of electrostatic propulsion 235 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: system or you know, a massless reaction system for spacecraft. 236 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: And if I can do that, I'm going to retire 237 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: and I'm just going to be a pirate out in 238 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: space stealing minerals and ship from SpaceX. But I know 239 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. I'm still going to try it, try for it. 240 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, the somewhat in the middle of that is 241 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: I definitely am going to work on getting my degree 242 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: in aerospace and electrical engineering. I want a duel major 243 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: on that. I think that would be sweet, and potentially 244 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: get a job for NASA or you know, maybe Boeing 245 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: or someplace like that, maybe even SpaceX. And then realistically, 246 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: what I am working on right now is I'm investing 247 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: a lot of money into tax leans so that eventually 248 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: I can, eventually I can house much of the homeless 249 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: population in Atlanta. I would really love to do that. 250 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Well, how's what do you mean? How's how tell them? 251 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: How does that work? What does a tax lian? 252 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, so if you don't pay your property taxes, 253 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: the government of your county wherever you wherever you're at, 254 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: they auction them off in a tax lean sale. Or 255 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: sometimes it's a tax d depending on what state you're in. 256 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: You go to the courthouse, you bid on them, and 257 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: you either get the house after a year, or you 258 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: get your money back plus twenty percent. You know, So 259 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: maybe let's say that, Yeah, let's say that this house 260 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: is like two hundred thousand dollars, right, they have back 261 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: taxes on it of ten thousand dollars. You go in, 262 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: you bid on the back taxes or twelve thousand. Well, 263 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna get all of your twelve thousand back and 264 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna get twenty percent on the you know, ten 265 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: thousand of the back tax, so you get an extra 266 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: two thousand out of that. Or if they don't pay 267 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: you get the house. You get all of the entire 268 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: equity of the house. 269 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: So you're how are you hoping to use this to 270 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: how's the homeless population? 271 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: I really want to buy a large plot of land 272 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: and start using sustainable building methods like rammed earth and 273 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: just to you know, create lots of apartments and use 274 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: the homeless people themselves, hire them on and teach them 275 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: the skills to build these houses. Start a company that 276 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: you know employs a lot of them, just so that 277 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: I can continue to build houses, sell them or use 278 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: them to house the you know, homeless population here in 279 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: Atlanta and just kind of take care of the problem 280 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: that way. 281 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Cool man is that? Yeah, No, it's it's a cool 282 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: it's a cool idea. That's a cool idea. Well, Matt, 283 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: you listen. You sound like you got you sound like 284 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: you're doing all right. Well, if I had to rank 285 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: the if I if I had to rank you on 286 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: a scale from like most depressed person I've heard on 287 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: the show to least depressed person I've heard on the show, 288 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: myself included myself very much included. I would I would 289 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: put you on the lower end of that spectrum, which 290 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you're proud of. 291 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. I do appreciate that. 292 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead. 293 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: Can I ask you like, has my voice sounded like 294 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: shaky and nervous this entire time? 295 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: I want it? Really truly, hasn't? I've it? 296 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Really? 297 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: You sound you sound quite confident. Actually you sound uh, 298 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: I like your voice not to be you know, weird, 299 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: but you know you have a you have a nice voice. 300 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, I do appreciate it. And yeah, thanks thanks 301 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: to being in front of so many people. 302 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: No, you were, you were, you were great man. I 303 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: and thank you again for the kind of words he 304 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: said at the beginning. They really were. We're sweeten and mental. 305 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: Lot, oh absolutely, and Lyle, you have millions of people 306 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: who watch. 307 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: A million who knows, who knows? 308 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: They all come for they all come for a reason, man, 309 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: like you're just a likable person and you have such 310 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: a great way of thinking, like you gotta stop ragging 311 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: on yourself so long. 312 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Thanks man. I'm gonna I'll try not to. I'm 313 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna try. I keep saying, I'm gonna try to hate 314 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: myself only the I think there's an optimal amount of 315 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: of hating yourself, and I'm trying to get there. I 316 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: think it's probably on the lower end of what I 317 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: currently do now, and I'm gonna try to try to 318 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: get there. 319 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't think you gotto. I think you gotta. I 320 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: think you got to hate the fact that there are 321 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: goals that you haven't yet accomplished, but not yourself in 322 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: the fact that you have accomplished, but hate the fact 323 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 3: that the parents has that you haven't done. 324 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: You're You're a good You're a good guy, James. I 325 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I'm I I have a lot of respect for you. 326 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that you have a good 327 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: rest of the nam and take care you two law. 328 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: That was that was nice. That was a nice gentleman. 329 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I have any post call 330 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Uh yeah, that guy, that guy was cool. 331 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: What did he say? He said what he said at 332 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: the beginning to me, that was really nice that I'm 333 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: trying not to. I don't have to understand everything. I 334 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what I'm I don't really 335 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing anymore. I don't really know. And 336 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: I maybe that's I should shouldn't be so open about that, 337 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: but I but I do. I wonder, I wonder sometimes, 338 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: But I also whatever, it's fine. I'm gonna eventually close. 339 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eventually close my laptop and I'm gonna go outside. 340 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for a walk and there'll be It'll 341 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: be like I never was it ever? Anything? Is that crazy? 342 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: Do I sound crazy? Right now? Let's keep going, Let's 343 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: keep taking calls. Hello, Hello, Hi, Hey, do me a 344 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: quick favor. Can you can you take me off of 345 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: speakerphone and turn off your stream? 346 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: You're not on speaker. 347 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: But I'm at a concert right now. Is this level 348 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: of volume like background noise acceptable? 349 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Wait? 350 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Why are you? Why are you calling me from a concert? 351 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: Because I'm waiting to go on. 352 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: It's a it's a like a classical music kind of concert. 353 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 5: So we're just waiting around to go on. 354 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Oh I see you're performing in this concert? 355 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 356 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: Wait a seton? 357 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: Is this liles? 358 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: Like for real? 359 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: This isn't This isn't a screener? 360 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: What do you do? What are you performing in the concert? 361 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 5: Well, we're playing with a jazz clarinetta's named Duren Ketchens 362 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: and we're playing uh House of the Rising Sun, What 363 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: a Wonderful World on a couple other tunes, and I'm 364 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 5: playing the bassoon. 365 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: That's cool. M hmm, what are you excited? Wait? I 366 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: have so cure? Why do you? Why are you calling me? 367 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: This seems like something you'd want to like be in 368 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: the moment of Like I feel like most people call 369 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: me when they're like kind of bored, Like would you? 370 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Are you not? Would What made you want to call 371 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: me in the middle of all this? 372 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 5: I'm not doing much. Everyone really has their own friends. 373 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: But I saw that you were taking calls. So I 374 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: decided to take a chance, and I didn't think i'd 375 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 5: get this far. 376 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, how long have you been playing the 377 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: bassoon for? 378 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: Or about ten years? A little less than ten years? 379 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh geez, what are you in like school for that 380 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: or what what are you doing? 381 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 382 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm in college for it. 383 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Wow, you said every you said everyone has there for 384 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: you don't have any friends in the in the in 385 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: the thing that you're doing. 386 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 5: I have some friends, but they have friends, so they're 387 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: talking to their friends and I'm just sitting here waiting. 388 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: Why didn't you beat Why don't you go be friends 389 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: with your friends friends? 390 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: I struggle to socialize. I'm working on it. 391 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Okay, a couple of. 392 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: My my friends are actually in the audience. 393 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: What the wind do you go on? 394 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 5: Probably in like I don't know, five ish minutes, maybe 395 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: maybe ten between five and son. 396 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: What I'm cure? What is a basoon? What is a bassoon? 397 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: It's a large woodwind instrument that uses a read It's 398 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: like four feet tall. If you google it'll it'll come up. 399 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Okay, so you play the bassoon, you're about to go 400 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: with your the opening for someone? 401 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: Not really? 402 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: I mean like there's two different bands in the college. 403 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: So like the band I'm in went first, and now 404 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: the other band's on, and then we're gonna combine the 405 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 5: bands and play with the guest artist. 406 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Cool. How is college going? 407 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: It's pretty good. 408 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: It's better than last semester. Last semester was a little rough. 409 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Why is that? 410 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 5: I was going through a lot of like outside issues 411 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 5: and I was actually I was actually leaving a guy 412 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: and had to like find an apartment and stuff. And 413 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: I had him been to college before that in like 414 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: three years, so it was a big adjustment and just 415 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 5: like getting used to all that stuff. 416 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: And how are you doing now? You say you're having 417 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: trouble like socializing. Is that for like a preferred particular 418 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: reason or are you just kind of trying to come into 419 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: your own universe? 420 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: I guess coming to my own. 421 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: I have social anxiety, and I also feel very inferior 422 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 5: to most of the people here because they're very talented 423 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: and I don't feel as talented. 424 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: Interesting you you feel inferior? You say, I think that. 425 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I do think that being like self confidence is necessary 426 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: to be for social to kind of cure curb social anxiety, 427 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: because not that you have to like think you're better 428 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: than everyone else. But you just have to know that 429 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: you're like a decent enough human being that other people's 430 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: opinions of you don't matter, so you don't have to 431 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: be afraid of them, you know. 432 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've I've definitely struggled with that for a 433 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 5: long time. And I'm at the point where, like I 434 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: know that stuff cognitively, it's just about like believing it 435 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: and like you know, acting on it. And it's just 436 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: like a physical like change in my brain where I'm 437 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 5: just like in fight or flight where I'm just like, 438 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 5: oh my god, everyone hates me or whatever. And it's 439 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: like a daily thing to just either give in or 440 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: you know, like you said, just like realize, you know, 441 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: I'm another ants on the ground and I've been recently 442 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: you know, doing the latter and just like talking to 443 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 5: people and uh, just finding I have to connect like 444 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: the second of what I said, So like, you know, 445 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: just you know, being among my fellow musicians. 446 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: Cool. Cool, that's great. Yeah, you're in a scene. You're 447 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: in a scene of people doing stuff. I'm I'm almost 448 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I almost feel bad talking to you right now because 449 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: i feel like I'm keeping you from like actually socializing. 450 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you do do you do stuff like this a lot, 451 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: like like go off into the corner and like go 452 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: on your phone or stuff like that. 453 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 5: I mean kind of I do. I do kind of 454 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 5: like you know, dip my toe in, so like I'll uh, 455 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: you know, stay in my little corner and then I'll 456 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: like try to socialize someone and then like the conversation 457 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: will in and I'll go back to my corners. And 458 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 5: that sounds kind of a drab, But I would be 459 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: just on my phone right now if I wasn't talking 460 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: to you, And I'm really happy to be talking to you. 461 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: I we actually talked, and I think twenty twenty two 462 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: when you had Cucko as a gain. 463 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: Oh cool, cool cool, So fuck eat fuck man? What 464 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: what have you? What do you scroll on your phone 465 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: when you're like like, when you're like, if you weren't 466 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: talking to me, you'd be just in the corner scrolling 467 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: on your phone. What would you be doing? 468 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 4: Well? 469 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, before I called you, I was on Instagram and 470 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: that's how I saw that you were alive. 471 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: So I was on. 472 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: Instagram and I do a lot of sadoku, a lot 473 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: of sadoku. 474 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: I check my. 475 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: Email and try to be productive. 476 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're like backstage at a concert, and there's like, 477 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just very I'm very confused. Also, like 478 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: where are you? Are you alone right now? Like where 479 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: are you that you're talking to me? 480 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 5: I'm in a room full of people, but they're they 481 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: doing their own thing? 482 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: Okay, can they hear us talk? 483 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: I mean some of them can hear me. Most of 484 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 5: them aren't paying attention. And I don't mind saying what 485 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: I'm saying in front of the people who can hear it. 486 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. The bassoon, huh, what's so? Let me I'm 487 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna google what a bassoon looks like because I actually 488 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: don't think I know. But soon, Oh that's a a Oh, 489 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: it's got it's got the little it's like a fucking saxophone. 490 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: Fucked uh a clarinet and had a little baby. Yes, 491 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: well look at this love that Look at this little 492 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: it's like a little straw connected to a clarinet. That's crazy. 493 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's called the vocal. 494 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: The vocal and you play that, you've you've played that 495 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: shit for ten years. 496 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 4: Just about. 497 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: Like I said, I had to take a three year break, 498 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: but otherwise I've been playing it. 499 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Oh are you still there. 500 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hear me, Oh yeah, I can 501 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 5: hear you. 502 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So what's your how old are you? 503 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: I am twenty four. 504 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: And what's your dream? Or use your dream? To become 505 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: like a SoundCloud bassoon player? 506 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: I mean maybe there is jazz perposu. I honestly, I 507 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 5: have no idea at this point. I'm trying to just 508 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: keep it more in the day and more in the 509 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: short term, just like I want a degree. Want to 510 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 5: get a degree, and then I'll go from there. I 511 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: like to teach music and talk about music, but I don't. 512 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: I lost a lot of confidence with that and I 513 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: find I'm better one on one anyway. So that's what 514 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: I'm doing for now. I'm just doing lessons. 515 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 516 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: I just really love music and and like a general 517 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: dream would be to just like have a nice house 518 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: somewhere like in that kind of woodsy but not too woodsy, 519 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: and just you know, be financially stable. 520 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: Cool. The bassoon huh hm hmmm, yeah, theon. Do you 521 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: play other instruments? What other instruments do you play? 522 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? Actually my first instrument was the flute, and I 523 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: played that for a long time. I can play the flute, 524 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: the clarinet, the saxophone, the bassoon, the phonium or the 525 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: tuba and the piano. 526 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: That's so many things. You're like a one A one 527 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: lady band. 528 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, when's your album? We'll see. I'm I'm better 529 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: at like playing music than creating it. I mean I 530 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: have like mad like one song, but I lost it 531 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: because it was for an assignment and I can't access it, 532 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 5: so I'd have to recreate it. 533 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, if I'm about to say something was really dumb, 534 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I already k listen. I can. I kind of understand 535 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: the answer to the question I was about to ask, 536 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: But like, what really is the difference between playing music 537 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and creating it? 538 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 5: Well, with playing music, you don't have to worry about 539 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 5: creating it like someone else already made it, so you 540 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 5: can just like play what's on the page without having 541 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 5: to worry about like making stuff up by yourself. And 542 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: then creating music is like the opposite, where you don't 543 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: have to worry about being able to play whatever you're writing. 544 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: You can just write the craziest shit and worry about 545 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 5: someone else playing it. 546 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: But so you never just sit down on that piano 547 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: when you're just like jamming out, making fucking noises and 548 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: sounds until something sounds like something you like hearing. 549 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: You never do that, really, no, although I have some 550 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 5: jazz background, so I'm able to kind of improvise, but no, 551 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: but there are people. 552 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Who do that. 553 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 5: You know. 554 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because I have like crazy ADHD and 555 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, if I were to, if I if I 556 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: were any good at any musical instrument, I would just 557 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: sit down and fucking just start hitting buttons until something 558 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: did did some you know? 559 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well I suggest the piano because you don't have 560 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 5: to worry about producing it sounds like you would on 561 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 5: the trumpet or something like. 562 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: You just press the key and you kind of just. 563 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: Fuck around and do whatever you want until something sounds good. 564 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: Like you said, so that might be up your alley, 565 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 5: you know. 566 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Uh hm hmm. What So you said you left a 567 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: guy to uh come to college. 568 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: You don't want to play the piano? 569 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: Huh what? 570 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: What? What do you mean? 571 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 4: You changed the topic. 572 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 5: It's okay, It's like I'm just busting your balls. 573 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 574 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 5: So, yeah, I was in a pretty long relationship that 575 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 5: wasn't very great, and I had to gather my resources 576 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 5: to leave, so I did that and it took a 577 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: long time, and then part of that was getting back 578 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: into college. 579 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: That's what I cool. 580 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: That's cool. Are you Are you going on dates and 581 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff now or are you with to wish someone new? 582 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: It's uh, what's up? 583 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: Not really no, like I said in More and one 584 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: on one. So like you know, there's someone I'm you know, 585 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 5: associating with, but cool. Yeah, yeah, And I'm fine with 586 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 5: that because I've had enough, Like after what I've been through, 587 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 5: I've had enough. 588 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: We love some red hot association. That's very nice. 589 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, connections are great. 590 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Uh well, I just I still feel bad that I'm 591 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: talking to you because you're in a room full of 592 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: other people that you could talk to. You see your friends. 593 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: You your friend is talking to their friend, but you've 594 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: drawn a line in the same and that your friend's 595 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: friend is not your friend. Why have you? Why have 596 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: you drawn that line? 597 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 4: Well, I mean for two things. 598 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: I'm when there's a practical like you know, three to crowd, 599 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 5: and like I. 600 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: I don't know this person, so I don't. 601 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: Know like what I could talk about or bring up 602 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: with them, So it's just like pretty impractical. I ended 603 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: up just I end up just like listening most of 604 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 5: the time. 605 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: And there's also I forgot. 606 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's just like insecurity of like they don't 607 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: like me, and even if I don't know if they 608 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: like me for sure, I'm just gonna assume they don't 609 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 5: like me, and you stay away. 610 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Why can I can I get? Can I go? Can 611 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: I get a little crazy with you for a second? 612 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Can I go? Can I go a little crazy? Can 613 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: I get? Can I get on my fucking can I get? 614 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Can I get on my ship with you? Right now? 615 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 616 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: Please? 617 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: Please? 618 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: Do? Can I be? 619 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: Can I be a little bit of a crazy man? 620 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 5: Already? 621 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: Uh? Why do you? Why? Why do you? Why do 622 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: you want? Don't you just assume that you're fine and 623 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: that everything's fine, and just assume that as long as 624 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: you approach these people with positive intent, that they will 625 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: approach you with positive intent, or even if they're dicks, 626 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: it's like who cares, you know. 627 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what I'm working on now. And yeah, 628 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 5: I think it's more just about like managing my reactions 629 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 5: to when things get awkward, you know, and just not 630 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: beating myself up too much about it, because like I 631 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 5: just get really embarrassed, like when things don't go well socially, 632 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 5: and I'm just like, oh, I should never have opened 633 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 5: my mouth to that kind of thing. But you know, 634 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 5: that's something I got to get over because the alternative 635 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 5: is just like isolation. 636 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: Yea, last night, I was walking around Brooklyn at night. 637 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: I was on my way home from like I went 638 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: to a friend's house, and there was a bunch of 639 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: people standing outside. Hold On, I after sneeze. Waitah, fuck, there's 640 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: a whole lot. Hold on, I have to sneeze again. 641 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: God damn it. I was gonna tell the story and 642 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: I was about I had it out, the whole thing 643 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: in my head, and I'm gonna sneeze. All right, Okay, 644 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: we're keeping this, We're keeping this all in. We can't 645 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: cut this out. There's a there's like a there's like 646 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: a fourth of a sneeze that's still come into me. 647 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 5: All right, fuck this Fuck okay, I probably have to 648 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: go soon. 649 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Okay. I was walking through Brooklyn and there were there 650 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: were all these people standing outside of what looked like 651 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: like an art gallery. And I was like, what all 652 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: these people standing outside of an art gallery? Four and 653 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: uh because it's like ten pm and I was like, hey, 654 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: what is there an event going on, and they were like, 655 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: uh yeah, there's like a gallery, there's like an event. 656 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, can I come in because 657 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to know what was going on? And they 658 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: were like, they were like, uh no, we're kind of 659 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: winding down. It's kind of like a private thing. And 660 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: I was like, that's cool. How's your guys' night going? 661 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: And they and I could just tell they didn't want 662 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: I could tell they didn't want to they didn't want 663 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: to talk to me, and so I do. And not 664 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: by the way, when they could tell that someone doesn't 665 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: want to talk to me on media, I'm pretty I 666 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: can just be like, all right, that's cool. I'm just 667 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna leave. But I left, and I was like, you know, 668 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: that was like, on paper, embarrassing, but I wasn't embarrassed 669 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: by it at all, because look, here's the thing. In 670 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: another universe. I go up to a group of people 671 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: standing outside of an art gallery and I'm like, what's 672 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: going on? And they're like, hey, man, we'rever the party 673 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: fucking come on in. Life's great. What's your name? How 674 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: you doing? How's life? 675 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 3: Right? 676 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 677 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: But but but but if I don't become the kind 678 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: of person and take confidence in being the kind of 679 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: person that at the very least puts himself out there 680 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: for interactions like that to happen. If I don't become 681 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: a person that does that because I'm afraid of how 682 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: people might react, you know, I I I close myself 683 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: off to uh social connections and adventures that I would 684 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: have had had otherwise had I been more more brave. 685 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: And so I don't really mind if that particular instance 686 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: I didn't work out. I'm not embarrassed by that. I'm 687 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: not ashamed of that. I'm quite the opposite. I'm actually 688 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: happy with myself that I that I, uh put myself 689 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: out there and in that regard, and so I I 690 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you. I hope you understood I 691 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: guess what I just said and that it uh. 692 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 5: Made just real quick because I do understand you got 693 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: to go. 694 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: Literally myself like a minute or so. 695 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 5: But like, uh, I agree, And I'm actually more likely 696 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 5: to talk to strangers like while I'm out and about, 697 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 5: Like it's I think it's just the pressure of like, 698 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 5: you know, that people know me. So like when I 699 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 5: can talk to strangers and I actually talk to stranger 700 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 5: strangers when I'm like on the train and stuff and 701 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 5: to make conversation and I like it and it's fun 702 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: and like you said, like the opposite like outcome could 703 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: happen where like they welcome you in and shit. And 704 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 5: I've had that kind of stuff happen to me, like 705 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 5: especially since running away, and it's like been really cool 706 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 5: and like I can actually live and I've you know, 707 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 5: I've learned that like people aren't actually that bad like strangers. 708 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 5: You know, they're mostly like you and me. It's just 709 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 5: that gamble of like are they a murderer or not? 710 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 5: But other than that, like people are fine to talk to. 711 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 5: I've made like plenty of friends that are strangers and 712 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 5: I love it. And I think it's really just like 713 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 5: the pressure of like. 714 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 4: Maintaining a rapport with people. 715 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 5: That's when the social anxiety comes in. 716 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, what's your name again, Joe Anne? Joanne? I know 717 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: you got some basoons to play, so I'm gonna let 718 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: you go. Is there anything else you want to say 719 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go? 720 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: A couple of things. Well, first, I want to say 721 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 5: completely platonically and because of how like great you've had it, 722 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 5: like the impact you've had on people and myself like 723 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 5: I love you like, thank you how much? 724 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also try to lay off the weed. 725 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 5: It's it's better if you do. 726 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go smoke weed right fucking now, just because 727 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: you said that. 728 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: When you're ready, you're ready, you'll you'll. 729 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: Give it up, all right, Thank you very much, Joanna. 730 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: I have a good night. 731 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 5: It's so bye bye bye bye. 732 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: Listen, man, here's the thing. I don't play the bassoon 733 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: or any other woodwind instrument, so I can get high 734 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: all I want and it won't impact my life at all, 735 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: except for the fact that it is destroying my brain 736 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: and my giving me a lot of anxiety and memory 737 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: loss and making me eat four thousand calories a day. 738 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's totally fine. Hello. 739 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 3: What's going on? Man? 740 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: Hi there, sir? What is your name? My name is Antonio, Antonio. 741 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: What's going on? How can I get you today? 742 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: Sir? 743 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: Uh? 744 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: You know, just uh, We're gonna say the usual kind 745 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: of bullshit, you know, a long time listener, first time caller. Uh? Yeah, man, 746 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: just want to chime in about life. Just see what's 747 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, get a little bit of a get advice 748 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: if possible. 749 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: You want to chime in about life. Well, go ahead, 750 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Surfloor's years. 751 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: All right. 752 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, uh shit, I mean, what do I ever begin 753 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: to be honest? 754 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 3: Uh? 755 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bartender, been in the service industry for 756 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: about like ten eleven years right now, and I'm trying 757 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: to break out of the industry, but I'm kind of 758 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: stuck within this stupid little self deprecating cycle of mine, 759 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: which is a hello, annoying to say the least. 760 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: Tell us more. 761 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: Well, Uh, you know, I've been, like I said, been 762 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 2: doing this about like ten eleven years now right now. 763 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: Work in a hotel, like a bar hotel, like really 764 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: like the heart of uh Chicago. I live in Chicago. 765 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: Uh it's cool enough, but uh, ever since COVID, like 766 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: the service industry has just been like fucking garbage. It's 767 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: just a bunch of like good people left and a 768 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 2: bunch of new people took over, and nobody knows what 769 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: they're doing, and they're just hiring a bunch of green 770 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: ass people that don't know what they're doing neither. And 771 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: it's just a fucking best And I'm trying to get out, 772 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 2: man Like, it's like it's weird. Uh, It's it's cool 773 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 2: because if you know, I keep a roof over over 774 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: my head. You know, I take care of my son 775 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: and shit like that, but it sucks so like I'm 776 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: trying to break in a voice of a work of 777 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: voice acting. But uh, it's just hard to like find 778 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: like the motivation and like the focus, you know what 779 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean. I can deal with a bunch of drunken 780 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 2: assholes not stop all day. 781 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: How old are you? I'm thirty four, thirty four, And 782 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: how old are your son? 783 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: Actually he's going to be turning eleven September twenty seventh. 784 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh very cool. Are you just you supporting him or 785 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: do you have a partner of some kinds? 786 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 2: Well, his mother, you know him and his mother. They 787 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 2: live in Michigan. So I get him every other weekend. 788 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: I was supposed to get him this weekend, but she 789 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: had complications with her car. So I'm like, all right, man, 790 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: it's it's whatever, you know. 791 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: So she's in Michigan. Where are you. 792 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm in Chicago? 793 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, Oh don't make me do this. 794 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, hold on, I'm in front of a computer. Okay, 795 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing that much a fucking idiot, I am. 796 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: Hold on, I feel like those are dude. For a second, 797 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, Chicago's in Michigan, right, And I 798 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: was like, no, okay, all right, all right, okay, yes 799 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: these are these are two places that are close by 800 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: to each other. I'm a fucking all right anyway anyway, okay, 801 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: So hmmm, so you've been in service industry for eleven 802 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: years trying to break out to do voice acting. I 803 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: mean this sounds like it's a financial quoting, you know, 804 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: because everything gets a little bit harder when you got 805 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: like a kid to support, you know, are you are you? 806 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: Are you out here? 807 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: Like? 808 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: Are you out here? Like how do I make enough 809 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: money off of my succulent wind pipes to uh to 810 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: support my son and eat food and ship? 811 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: Never got that before, but I like that circular windpipe 812 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: all right. Now it's more so just like I don't 813 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: know what it is to be honest, man, because like 814 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: how can I how can I put it? Like like 815 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm good, you know what I mean? And like, uh, 816 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: I just uh moved to my own spot. I got 817 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: out of like a super toxic relationship that I was 818 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: in for like fucking like six seven years. COVID prolonged that, unfortunately, 819 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: because everything shut down but finally got out, I got 820 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: all my shit together within like a month or two, 821 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and to spend a pretty penny. 822 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: But I'm definitely more content, more peaceful now, you know. 823 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: My whole thing was like all right, like maybe now 824 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: that I'm alone that I'm like doing my own thing, 825 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 2: I can like focus on what I got to do. 826 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 2: But then by the time, you know, and to deal 827 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: with the little silly ass shenanigans at work and all 828 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: the other shit, by the time I finally get home, 829 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: it's like I'm like depleted. And then what I mean 830 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: by like self deprecating cycle, it's like I'll. 831 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: Be home or I'll be off like today, and it's 832 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: like all right, let me, you know, put away everything, 833 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: like turn. 834 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: My phone on. We focused and like do what I 835 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: gotta do. But there's like no like push or drive, 836 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: which in return upsets me a little bit because it's like, dude, 837 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 2: why you got to be like that? And then it's 838 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: like I'm even more pissed on myself because I'm kind 839 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: of like felf reflecting at the same time and like 840 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: noticing it from like a outer perspective, which in result 841 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: pisses me off even more because it's like, my guy, 842 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: why you got to do this to yourself? Like I'm 843 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: pretty hard on myself. So it's just like a constant, 844 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: fucking like loop. 845 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 3: And it's like, so if I. 846 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 1: Were, if I were to summarize everything you just said 847 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: in five words, it's why can't I lock in? There? 848 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, yeah, there you go. 849 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: Why can't you're trying to lock in? So you were 850 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: all right, so you were in the bad relationship and 851 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: you got out of it and you got your own place, 852 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: and then you were like all right, uh now and 853 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: then and then you were like, all right, now that 854 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm alone, now that I don't have I'm not wayed 855 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: down by this this thing, I can lock in right. 856 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 857 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool, by the way, I experience this 858 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I experienced this all the time where 859 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: it's like you have some kind of I don't know 860 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: what that noise was, where you have some kind of 861 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: like thing externally in your life that you get to 862 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: point at and you get to go, well, okay, I 863 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: would lock in, but I got this external thing, and 864 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: I can just delay my locking in until this external 865 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: thing is gone, and then what happens with that fail 866 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: every time. Maybe not every time. Actually, I'll give it 867 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: to some external things. Some external things can genuinely be 868 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: blocks to locking in. A lot of them can. But 869 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: but it's like you, I don't know where the line 870 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: is between it being a genuine block and it being 871 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: kind of a scapegoat, because I don't know. For me, 872 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 1: it's like anytime, anytime I do have that time, I'm 873 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: still faced with the same problems of that are preventing 874 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: me from locking in, that that are not cured by 875 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: the removal of external thing. I don't have any of 876 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: what I just said made any sense. But what are 877 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: you trying to lock in? What do you what are 878 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: you trying to lock in to do? 879 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 880 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: Like what does locking in mean? 881 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: At least for me, just locking in it's just like 882 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, just getting out of my own fucking dumb 883 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 2: ass edn't mind it, Just like yo, like stop like procrastinating, 884 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 2: stop like. 885 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 3: You know, like letting all this other like just strength. 886 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 2: And anxiety of like the world and being a father 887 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: and doing this and doing that, like way the fuck down, 888 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 2: Like stop bugging out. If it's like do what you 889 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 2: gotta do, because like I'm kind of at the point 890 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: in my life, you know what I'm saying with like 891 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm over like just servicing people and working for people 892 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: who fucking suck, you know what I mean. And that's 893 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: like the one thing that like I really don't want 894 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: to do because you know, like I was saying, like 895 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: COVID kind of screwed up the service industry like in 896 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: a home, you know, like it completely fucked it up. 897 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: You know, my cop I've worked with him like in 898 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 2: other places and mind you, like I've worked in like 899 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: michilin Star places I've worked in like little hole. 900 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: In the walls that like nobody gives a shit about. 901 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 2: And I got it. I got my cousin the job 902 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 2: or where I'm at, and they did him. 903 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: Super bogus, and uh you know that same year. 904 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 2: It's like probably two years ago because I've been at 905 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: the same place for like seven years now. Like two 906 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: years ago when like I got him in where I'm 907 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: at and like they did a bogus. He hopped around 908 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 2: like literally like seven or eight different like bars and restaurants. 909 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 2: It was the same thing, like hey man, like come 910 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: through like it's felt the money's good. Then like a 911 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: month or two later, hop management sucks. They fucked me over. 912 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm at this new place. Come here another month later, 913 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 2: they fucked up my hours. I'm at this other place. 914 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: So it's like I don't want to have to hop 915 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: from like bar to bar, dop a job to bank 916 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 2: and be to make a living type ship, you know. 917 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 2: So like my whole thing is like, is if I 918 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: can get this voice acting like voiceover works like off 919 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: the ground, like I want that to be kind of 920 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 2: like more like of my main like source of income 921 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 2: because in that case, like I can work wherever and 922 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have to bother me that much, but also 923 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: hopefully give me a little bit more free time on 924 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: my hand, so I can spend some more time with 925 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 2: my ship. Because I got a flight and I got 926 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: all that other stuff. I just take that forever. 927 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: Sure. Well, here's the thing. I have no idea how 928 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: one goes about pursuing a career in voiceover work. If 929 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: I were you, I would reach out to people who 930 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: have careers and voiceover work, and uh I would I 931 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: would see, you know, with their with their advice. Is 932 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: but you're talking you're talking about you're talking about trying 933 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: to start a business to replace your job. The upstart 934 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: of doing that, unfortunately, is gonna be like crazy, you know, 935 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: because the amount of the amount of hours are gonna 936 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: put into that is a lot. I don't think you 937 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. I think it's worth it to do it. 938 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, if that's what I would do, and 939 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: I would go find people who actually are doing this 940 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: for a living and see what their advice is. I mean, 941 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: you gotta make tiktoks and Instagrams, and you gotta make tiktoks, 942 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: you gotta make instagrams, you gotta make YouTube videos. 943 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: People. I've had people tell me that shit like a lot, 944 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: and like because where I work at like it's like 945 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 2: I work like at the heart of downtown, so like 946 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: I beat tons of people and like I met famous 947 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: people and stuff. I'm taking care of them. Like I 948 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: got to be Thundercat. He was cool as shit, earl sweatshirt. 949 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've see Tokyo Drift, but the 950 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: bad dudes from Tokyo Drift, Drift King, I got to take. 951 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,919 Speaker 3: Care of him and his wife. They were super nice. 952 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: By the way, you met the Drift King. Actually I 953 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: don't know who that is, but he just sounds cool. 954 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: Go ahead and and what did all these people tell you? 955 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 3: Well, the same thing, Like yo, just like do it? 956 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 957 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 3: Like I've met this one guy from UH to some 958 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 3: you know, random white dude. 959 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 2: He told me that he did marketing advertisement for Mercedes 960 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: for about like thirty years, like he was retired. And 961 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 2: I told him how during COVID, I was on this 962 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: site called voices dot com. It's like a LinkedIn for 963 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 2: voiceover artists, but like how it was like a Hello weird. 964 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: The structure was, it's like a five hundred dollars annual feed. 965 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 2: You get paid every Friday if you do gigs, but 966 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: they take a twenty percent platform feed. And you know, 967 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: I get emailed all these jobs, but some of them 968 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't even pertain to like be specifically because it's like, 969 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: be real, I don't think you want to hear this 970 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: type of voice of like a Gerberg commercial or anything 971 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 2: like that, you know what I mean. And he's he's like, yo, 972 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 2: like that's cool now, but what you need to do 973 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: get you make yourself a demo reel and find yourself 974 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: an agency to represent you. That way they can do 975 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 2: all the grub works for you. He's like, yeah, you'll 976 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: still have to break them off some money, like you know, 977 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: because obviously like they need their cut, but they can 978 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: find things specifically tailored for your voice and that you 979 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: build a portfolio and a repertoire widow so they can 980 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 2: recommend you to other things and other avenues that's more 981 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 2: tailored for you and the way that you stun So 982 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: I do got a real like that I got to 983 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: fix up and everything. But a lot of the agencies 984 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: that I looked at they want headshots along with like 985 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: the demo reel, and I mean a lot of the 986 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: other players I've looked at headshots are at least like 987 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: four hundred dollars like this. 988 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 3: For a couple of photos and stuff. 989 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: So I think it's more so just kind of like 990 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: preparing my pockets for this amount of money out by 991 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 2: the drop on everything, you know. But it's still just 992 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 2: like a weird mental block. It's like, yo, like why 993 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 2: why I gotta be stupid? Why can't what's the deal? 994 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Let's see someone. I try 995 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: not to look at the chat while I'm on the calls, 996 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,439 Speaker 1: but someone said, ghek, you got to tell this guy 997 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: about people who do spicy audio on OnlyFans. 998 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, my ex recommended that to me. She's like, dude, 999 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 2: you don't even gotta show your face or like show anything, 1000 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 2: just fucking talk and say something like people would eat 1001 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 2: that up. 1002 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: Listen, Man, I don't know if I have any better 1003 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: random white guy advice than than the other guy. You 1004 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: just gotta do ship, you know, you just gotta just 1005 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: kinda I I I hate saying into a microphone. I 1006 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: hate giving advice, but this is the only thing I 1007 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: can think of. Is you just gotta you gotta do 1008 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: sh it. Man. There's no I'm not a master of 1009 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's adderall. It's cool if you have trouble focusing, 1010 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, just you gotta fucking do things. There's no 1011 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any kind of a secret sauce 1012 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: to it. Uh you know, I mean, I'll say this, 1013 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: this is, this is, this is, this will be my 1014 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: official word to you, good sir. 1015 00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: Is. 1016 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a universe of agents in a backstage and 1017 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and there's things you can 1018 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: apply for and all that stuff. But to me, and 1019 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking because this is how I was able 1020 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: to do anything with myself is you gotta make tiktoks 1021 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: and Instagrams and you know, build your own social media 1022 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: YouTube universe for yourself, you know, because knocking knocking on 1023 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: doors is one thing, but I think you got to 1024 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: kind of create your own things so that people are 1025 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: knocking on your doors. And as far as how to 1026 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: get over procrastination to lock in to do it, I mean, 1027 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: I got really lucky. My My period of time of 1028 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: locking in was right when the pandemic started, which was 1029 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: the perfect time to lock in because I didn't have 1030 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: any fomo. You know, There's many times I tried to 1031 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: lock in before that where I was like, eh, i'm 1032 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 1: too I'm distracted by all there is to other other 1033 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: things that are already do in the universe. But I 1034 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: got lucky because that was I experienced it as we 1035 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: all did. You know, we experienced a unique period of 1036 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: time where uh there was literally nothing else to fucking 1037 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: do except except to lock in. So my advice to 1038 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: you is to unleash a global virus onto the universe 1039 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: so that uh literally nothing can distract you. That's what 1040 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: That's what I would say. 1041 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: I get that, man, And yet like, yeah, I know, 1042 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 2: it's all just internal, man, Like I gotta fucking just 1043 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 2: get out of my own head about it, you know 1044 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 2: what I mean. But yeah, like you said, like I bad, 1045 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 2: other people say the same thing, like bro, just make 1046 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: it TikTok, make it big and just put your shit 1047 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 2: out there, you know what I mean. But it's all 1048 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: just like internally that like is just blowing me. I 1049 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 2: guess you could say, which You're just like, Yeah, I 1050 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 2: just got to get over my own head, of my 1051 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: own thoughts. 1052 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: What's your name again, sir? And does Antonio? Yes, I 1053 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: totally sick. I'm remembering lots of people's names today, Antonio. 1054 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1055 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1056 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 2: Uh, it's a beautiful day, man, enjoy yourselves, love one another, 1057 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 2: and uh should keep keep on trucking. 1058 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: But they have a good night, sir, You too. 1059 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 2: My dude. 1060 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: Like guy he I mean, he has got a good voice. 1061 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: He's got a good voice. How to do voice actor work? 1062 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to do anything. 1063 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: That's the thing about advice. Advice is very specific. I 1064 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,879 Speaker 1: only know how to do things that I can do, 1065 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not good at locking in I'm really not 1066 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: uh this. All of what I've built as a Gecko 1067 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: has been as a result of like I yeah, I 1068 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: got a pandemic and it's it was a it was 1069 00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: a kind of unique distraction free time. But I don't know. 1070 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: As you get older, life gets more there's less time 1071 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: to do stuff, especially if you have a kid. But 1072 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Antonio will find a stride. 1073 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 1: He's just he's he's got a good vibe to him, 1074 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: which is helpful. 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