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Speaker 2: it's Friday. It's seven February twenty fourth, two thousand and

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Speaker 2: winning multi dimensional, multi generational, best damn combat sports show

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Speaker 2: the beij guy, one half of this dynamic duo, but

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Speaker 2: the guy you pull up for on Fridays to get

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Speaker 2: his picks. Okay, bet Willy he will. It's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Luke doing this show with you is the gift that

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Speaker 2: keeps on gifting, you know, does it like giving me odds,

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Speaker 2: giving me giving my kid's shoes though, so I appreciate that, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We got a loaded weekend, a weird fight,

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Speaker 2: some good ones, some weird ones, some in between ones.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling here on this Friday? In the

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Speaker 2: winter in DC.

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Speaker 1: It's my headphones are messed up. Give me a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. Just we'll do it a lot now, I.

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Speaker 1: Hear, no, I know what the headphones.

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Speaker 3: They just do this thing where I don't know why

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see, Luke.

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Speaker 2: You're a man of the people. How's your personal life going?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Terrible? But you know what else is new?

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Speaker 3: I will say this that yesterday we had the most

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Speaker 3: schizophrenic weather on earth. Your nation's capital yesterday had a

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Speaker 3: high of like seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Right, oh wow, But.

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Speaker 3: I know, clear skies like the weirdest whether I think

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Speaker 3: did take Tukey to the zoo, which was fun.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, what does she like there, Luke? Because it's by

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Speaker 2: the way, it's gonna it feels like is in the

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Speaker 2: eight on me, It was like, what, what's tookey into Luke.

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Speaker 2: You know the because I'm a big fan of the

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Speaker 1: I like that she likes the big cats too.

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Speaker 3: But really it's the elephants and in particular the orangutanks,

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Speaker 3: the orangutangs. Bro's she's about about it. Orangutang's person of

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Speaker 1: That's what it means.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that sounds like a very general title, Luke,

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Speaker 2: speaking of famous orangutangs like Rocky Balboa. Did you know

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Speaker 2: it's a week from today that Creed three hits theaters

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'm on that journey with my boys, Luke,

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Speaker 2: And last night was Rocky Deuce. Well, what is your

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Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? I haven't seen it

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Speaker 2: You nailed it. You just nailed that, Luke. You did.

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Speaker 2: So it was my favorite as a kid, but that's

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Speaker 3: You obviously need two before you can even make four, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids they're verdict at age fifteen. Here is

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Speaker 3: Be honest, Rocky wins, but he's the shittiest boxer on earth.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, there's always grudges, but none that I want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to make yourself part of the headline, Luke, Right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't even know. I that's all the

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Speaker 1: Bro Right?

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Speaker 2: All right, that's all that bullshit, Luke. It's time to

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Speaker 2: get into some more as we start our show this Friday.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of fights tonight. I was b

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Speaker 2: KFC Tonight one Championship, UFC in Bellator tomorrow, Floyd Mayweather

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Speaker 2: wild weekend, Luke. And speaking of weird and wild, okay,

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Speaker 2: a weird and wild Yeah, exactly feeling this cradle, Oh, Luke,

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Speaker 2: All right, Luke, It's time to do this, Okay. Bet

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Yes, relive my seventh grade nightmares

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Speaker 1: To what date?

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Speaker 2: Last week? Luke, I vowed that change would be in

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Speaker 2: So Luke, I've got eight points to make up here,

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Speaker 2: Are you going first or second?

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Speaker 1: Today? Since I'm the winner, I can choose, I'll go second.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Let's kick off on the top. Belator two ninety

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Speaker 3: don't think that Story can't win this. By no means

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into shortly the Jake Paul card, which

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Speaker 2: It's the most legitimate boxing fight they have on this

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Speaker 2: Badu Jack, the Ripper, who himself Luke is in a

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Speaker 2: As we look right now, in terms of who's the favorite,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, again, to the point you raised a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jake Paul. Jake Paul's not a huge

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Speaker 3: Jake Paul, I like him in the main event.

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Speaker 2: Your updated odds from our friends at Caesars Luke have

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Speaker 1: Tommy Fury, I can't believe that. I'm sorry, I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get more into this fight, but you're going

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Speaker 2: five betting underdog in a preliminary bout here against Gabriella

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Speaker 2: It sounds that sounds very Lithuayan.

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Speaker 1: If it's just the last name was what jasuita Vissius?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know my background. You know why I'm leaning here, Luke.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if there was a Columbian on

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Speaker 1: Do you mean as a sex pervert for women in

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Luke, this women's flyweight matchup, Look, I do expect

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Speaker 2: She's tall, she's long, she's tough, She's got some good striking.

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Speaker 2: Give me a close decision, win here on the upset

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Speaker 3: Year, you might, I mean you ruin my life most days,

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Speaker 3: but in this one BC, I'm actually gonna go a

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Speaker 3: He won his bout against Emmanuel Sanchez that way. The

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Speaker 3: Give me Patrick crow Vaalio to upset here.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I mean he's a born in Portugal, but

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna get a big pop there. I like that

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this main event in the second in

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Speaker 2: He's so young. We just had him in a win

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Speaker 2: over here is Adorno's got a chin. He absolutely does.

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Speaker 2: He's usually the puncher in most of his matchups and

431
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: the guy in the second half of the fight who

432
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: is looking to try to end it and walk him down.

433
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: Both of these guys need to win. They could be

434
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Speaker 2: tense here. I think we're gonna go the distance. Rodriguez,

435
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Speaker 2: Adorno and the Showtime.

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Speaker 3: Opener interesting for so okay, so we're doing over under

437
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Speaker 3: for me this one. I struggled a little bit BC

438
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna take just a bit of a gamble.

439
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see, like, who typically goes to

440
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Speaker 3: a lot of decisions or is there a matchup where

441
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Speaker 3: someone could be decision prone? Based on the way that

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Speaker 3: it looks, I'm gonna go Joe, I can never. I

443
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Speaker 3: don't know if it's pronounced Seleski or Selecchi either way.

444
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 3: Carl Deaton the third, I'm gonna bet that one to

445
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Speaker 3: go the distance. We see, so I'm gonna say Seleki

446
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: under the pretense that that could be quite wrong. He

447
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 3: has gone to a decision fair amount, and also like

448
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 3: he can be a real top ride grappling kind of grinder,

449
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 3: and just the guys that have like either our grinders

450
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 3: or at times can have grinding tendencies.

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Speaker 1: Based on the matchup, you just like him to go

452
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Speaker 1: the distance. So this is the one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not very sure of a bit of a guess,

454
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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say that Seleki versus Carl Deaton the

455
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Speaker 3: Third goes the distance.

456
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Speaker 2: All right, let's hope for a stoppage in that fight. Finally,

457
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: luke ko or submission. You pick the type of finish

458
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Speaker 2: and you pick the matchup. I am going over to

459
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Speaker 2: tonight's one Championship Fight Night seven main event. I believe

460
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: it's going on down in Bangkok, and of course it's

461
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: the rematch for the bandam Way title. John Leneker lost

462
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Speaker 2: the title on the scales last time out against the

463
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Speaker 2: Fabricio Andrage. They had a wild fight that ended with

464
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Speaker 2: an illegal blow. No contest. We're running it back here

465
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Speaker 2: at Luke. Both of them their knockout machines. It was

466
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: a physical, aggressive fight the first time around. I'm gonna

467
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: take the bed here in a five round title fight.

468
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: It's bandam weight of course, with the one hydration rules.

469
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: It's a one hundred and forty five pound fight. Give

470
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Speaker 2: me Lineker Andrage to finish via a knockout.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, fair enough for me. I'm gonna go slightly

472
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Speaker 3: different picked. I just don't see any way this goes

473
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Speaker 3: the distance at all. I think it ends in either

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Speaker 3: TKO or KO with strikes. How about Phil DeFreeze taking

475
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: on Todd Duffy over in KSW. Todd Duffie Again, we

476
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: haven't seen him in three years. In the before that,

477
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: it was twenty fifteen or actually I think even four

478
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: years at this point for Todd DFFE twenty nineteen, right,

479
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: so it's been a long time since we've seen him.

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00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: It's a rematch ten year or eleven years in the making.

481
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Speaker 3: But Todd Duffy is just not one of these guys.

482
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Speaker 3: I think that's going to go one win or lose.

483
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: It's just not going to go to the final bell

484
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Speaker 3: in a heavyweight contest that one one of the other

485
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: is going to put the other guy's lights out for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fairly safe bet on Okay, bet, I'm

487
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 2: down eight points. You see the scoreboard below. Those are

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Speaker 2: your five picks either way. Good luck to you and Luke.

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Speaker 2: To close, we previewed the UFC card at length here.

490
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Speaker 2: I did want to get your picks quickly though, as

491
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Speaker 2: fans are certainly interested in this light heavyweight main event,

492
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: as Ryan Span comes in as the underdog against Nikita

493
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Speaker 2: kree Loov. To look at the current odds on this situation,

494
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Luke, okay, all right? Minus one

495
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: seventy kree Love plus one forty five Ryan Span. If

496
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: you're looking to get specific, it's plus three hundred for

497
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Speaker 2: a Span Ko plus sixteen hundred for a Span decision. Luke.

498
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Speaker 2: What makes this one tough to pick is that SPAN's

499
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: last fat five bouts have all ended in the first

500
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: round twice. He's gotten finished three times. He's done the deed.

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Speaker 2: Who wins this? In your eyes? I think fans are interested.

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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if Krillov lost this one. I mean,

503
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: the thing is he is error prone, and so for

504
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 3: that reason you're always like, oh, right, he could get

505
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Speaker 3: out in front of his skis.

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Speaker 1: And do something.

507
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: But skill for skill, or at least it's just in

508
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 3: terms of the basic question, right, who has more ways

509
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Speaker 3: to win Krillov? Krillov just simply has much more ways

510
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Speaker 3: to win. I think he's more forceful with his offense.

511
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: I think he's got offense at many different ranges. I

512
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: think a guy like SPAN's gonna try and catch him

513
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 3: with a big one, which, by the way, he might.

514
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's on the table. But you know, minute

515
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: for minute, Krylov should be doing better work. You should

516
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: be doing more work. That should make the difference in

517
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Speaker 3: the end, should be the.

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Speaker 2: I gotta lean Krilov here. I'm just wondering if Ryan

519
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: spin can put it together. Luke, he can surprise anybody.

520
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: We know that big power, But when you're walking in

521
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: and blowing people away so quickly, it is tough to

522
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: sort of always figure out if five straight fights haven't

523
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Speaker 2: gone past the first, we don't still know a ton

524
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Speaker 2: about his ubl Luke. Sometimes guys just have the popping

525
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: explosiveness where they can get to places without really proving

526
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: that at the end of the day. I mean it's like,

527
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 2: have his two recent finish losses proved anything. I mean,

528
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot that's unproven. With Ryan Span, he could

529
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Speaker 2: very much surprise us. I think you got a link Kreelov.

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Speaker 2: Still as we continue and look, I didn't want to

531
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Speaker 2: gloss over and not mention that comin event you mentioned

532
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. It's not great, but adream Uniez of Brazil

533
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: is making some noise here as he looks too continue

534
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: that unbeaten start in the UFC opposite Brendan Allen and

535
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 2: quick stats I looked up here. The thirty three year

536
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: old mean is five and zero in the UFC. He

537
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: won two Dana White Contender Series fights before that. He's

538
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: on a nine fight win streak overall since twenty sixteen.

539
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Speaker 2: I only bring this up because you know Ian Parker,

540
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Speaker 2: he's a decent bloke. Luke a dm H from time

541
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Speaker 2: to time works at ESPN, covers PFL and UFC. He

542
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: said Muniz is one day gonna wear a UFC championship.

543
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: He's convinced of this.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, I don't think that's crazy.

545
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm high on him, you know, there's still some work

546
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: to do to see exactly how far he can go.

547
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: And also, you know, let's see what bo Nickel does

548
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: at one eighty five, Let's see what Hamzat does at

549
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: one eighty five. And there's some broader questions here about

550
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: how this is all going to shake out.

551
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: But he looks poised for greatness. I agree. I think

552
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Speaker 1: he wins.

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00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 3: I think he wins US one and he's got a

554
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 3: massive upside there.

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Speaker 1: It is, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Bets are behind us. We roll into topic one on

557
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Speaker 2: this Friday as we set the stage for the remaining

558
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Speaker 2: freight cards. We haven't given a close up to Luke,

559
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: but let's do it right here. Saturday night, Showtime Championship Boxing,

560
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: nine pm Eastern, a tripleheader coming from what I consider

561
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: it to be an upstart hotbed over there in Minneapolis

562
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: at the Armory Downtown. You get real boxing fans there.

563
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 2: We know that Luke, you and I will be calling

564
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Speaker 2: the prelims from our Jersey City studio six forty five

565
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Speaker 2: pm Eastern Saturday night on the Showtime Sports YouTube page. Obviously,

566
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: if you're looking to watch that tripleheader, go to Showtime

567
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: dot com right now, get your thirty day free trial.

568
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: But as we look ahead though to the main card,

569
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this Honestly, even as a hardcore

570
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: boxing fan, this fight's below the radar, but I think

571
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of those after the fact that

572
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: wins a lot of people over. A vacant one hundred

573
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: and forty pound title is on the line that used

574
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: to be Josh Taylor's title that he was forced to

575
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: recently give up. And you know who's gonna fight for it? Here?

576
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: Two guys with knockout intentions. Puerto Rico Subriel Mattias is

577
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: going to take on Haromias Ponse from Argentina, who's making

578
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: his US debut. But when you look at the records

579
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: in the histories here, you know Mattias is eighteen and

580
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: one with eighteen KOs. His only loss he avenged by

581
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: KO one fight ago against petros Ananyan, which was a

582
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: fight on showtime. Luke, this guy's got an interesting backstory

583
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: super al Matias that I'm sure not everyone realizes. He

584
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: was stabbed in the shoulder blade in twenty twelve. In

585
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, he was sentenced to nineteen months in jail

586
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: for drug trafficking. He got out the next year turned

587
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: pro as a boxer and like I mentioned, has this

588
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: incredible eighteen wins in eighteen KOs and eighteen wins. And

589
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: his opponent Ponce, who's promoted by Marcos Madonna there in Australia.

590
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: He said, I always go for the KO and I

591
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: leave nothing to chance. Saturday will be no different, dude.

592
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: These two are gonna collide and it's gonna be spectacular.

593
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: With a big time belt on the line.

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00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: This fight is great and I'll tell you, like if

595
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: you look at the tape, here's my REDBC temmy. If

596
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: I'm missing something, Okay, my read on this is that

597
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: if you've never seen Mattias, that dude can thump. He

598
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: can thump that he has sick power the whole way through.

599
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: But here's the other part about him. He gets hit

600
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: all the time, right, He is very, very hit able.

601
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Ponce does not have that same kind of power, but

602
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: can chip away definitely. I think if you can avoid

603
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 3: the big shot, will win long stretches of the fight,

604
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: long rounds. And yet in the end, the question you

605
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: have to ask yourself is can this guy, for as

606
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: long as the bout lasts, stay away from the blasting

607
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: nuclear power of someone like Patia's. That's really what it

608
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: hinges on because I just don't think if he lands

609
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: clean anyone. Oh this case, Ponce is gonna be able

610
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: to take his his punch. So this one is going

611
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: to be And by the way, Ponce will get in

612
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: like absolutely put himself in danger. He's not gonna just

613
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: jab into nothing else.

614
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: Like he gets. So what I'm saying is this one

615
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: is built built for action. This one.

616
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Speaker 3: There's just no way this ends up being some ugly

617
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: cl or jabfest. These guys are going to throw absolute

618
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: bombs at each other. The question is who can survive?

619
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: And I really don't know.

620
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: And look, when you're talking about one hundred and forty pounds,

621
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: there's already a lot of fun names in there too.

622
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: Fima Lopez moved up. He might be facing Josh Taylor,

623
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: who I believe Slaw's one of the titles he used

624
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: to have or two. But you know, we also have

625
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia moving up tanks eventually going to be at

626
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: one forty on the full time. I mean, Davin Han's

627
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: already talking about moving up. I mean, this division is

628
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: is going to be a star studded one soon having

629
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: a world title here will be key. But I love

630
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: this type of scenario in which Ponse is in he's

631
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: thirty and oher with twenty KOs but never fought in

632
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: the US before. But he's hungry as crap. You can

633
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: watch the tape and see that he's aggressive. God, he's

634
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: promoted by Marcos Madonna. Luke. So many times when guys

635
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: come and make their US debut with glossy records, you

636
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: know in South America or somewhere in Asia or whatever,

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: it's always tough to know what you get. But man,

638
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: do you remember I always bring up this reference because

639
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: it's great. Do you remember when Miguel Coto fought Ricardo

640
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Torres back in about two thousand and five. Torres had

641
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: not out all twenty eight of his opponents. He was

642
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Was he from Colombia?

643
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I don'tlieve he was.

644
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: I have to look that up, but it was a

645
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: lot of Columbian boxers have some fugazi records, and you're like.

646
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, how many cab drivers you know? Has he? Heyah,

647
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: he's from Columbia, Luke. He turned into a world title

648
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: holder in a legitimate fighter. He lost that fight against Codo,

649
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: but he rocked him, knocked him down made it an

650
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: absolute war. You just never know what you're gonna get

651
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: when somebody makes the leap to the highest level in

652
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: the States, comes out of their home country for the

653
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: first time, and you know, tries to make some noise.

654
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: This is going to be a very very interesting fight,

655
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and Luke, when you talk about Mattias

656
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: having the eighteen KOs in as many fights. A great

657
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: stat here from the from the Crack Research team at showtime.

658
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: There are only four fighters right now that are ranked

659
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: in any division by Ring Magazine who have scored knockouts

660
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: in all of their wins. Arthur Betterbeeve Virgil Ortiz Junior,

661
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: the unbeaten Welterway one hundred and forty pound contender, Gary

662
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Antoine Russell, and Subril Mattias. So we're gonna see this

663
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: be a good one come Saturday night. Check it out

664
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: there on showtime. I mentioned Adorno's in that fight to

665
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: open up against the South Paul from right there, Elvis Rodriguez,

666
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: and also Luk in that colmate event. Jamal James is

667
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: finally back, used to have a secondary title at welterweight

668
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: from Minneapolis, has filled up that arena many times, but

669
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: he lost that title against Radjab Bhutaiev late in twenty

670
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: twenty one, was really worn down and eventually stopped in

671
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: that bout. Took a long layoff. He's back here. Let's

672
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: see what he can do against Albertil Palmetta, who is

673
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: a southpaw also from Argentina. So good action expected in

674
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: this triple header, But Luke Boxing's gonna have that Sunday

675
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: offering Riod Saudi Arabia ESPN plus pay per view. Jake Paul,

676
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: who told Dariel this week he signed a one fight

677
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: deal here with ESPN. On the boxing side, we do

678
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: know eventually he's looking to move on over to PFL

679
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: and MMA on a somewhat multi fight full time basis.

680
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna take on Tommy Fury third time. They tried

681
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: to book this far. Say what you will about it,

682
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: but on paper at least it's it's supposed to be

683
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: the offering for Jake Paul that answers the questions of

684
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: when are you're finally gonna face a real boxer. He

685
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: tried against Hassim Rockband, tried twice against Tommy Fury. The

686
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: real question here, Luke, and you already gave your pick

687
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: of Jake Paul. I also think Jake Paul is gonna

688
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: win this thing by decisions could but I think it.

689
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: The question is will it be more competitive or will

690
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: there be more danger for Jake Paul than we think

691
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: from Tommy Fury, Because yes, at eight and oh with

692
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: four KOs, he's a quote unquote real boxer, the half

693
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: younger brother of Tyson Fury, but his competition has been atrocious.

694
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I read you that stat Luke, that when

695
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: we were on HQ yesterday together of the record of

696
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: the opponent's Tommy Fury has faced as a professional twenty

697
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: four wins, one hundred and seventy six losses and five draws.

698
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: And I know that it's not uncommon for any of

699
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: your favorite boxers on the way up in their first

700
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen fights to have a few of those

701
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: guys who are making their pro debut or journeymen who

702
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: are only there to push you rounds. That happens. But Luke,

703
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: he hasn't faced anybody with a heartbeat arguably at all.

704
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: And when he was in there, meaning Tommy Fury, two

705
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: years ago on that Jake Paul Woodley won under cart

706
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, did he took on Bellatore's Anthony Taylor, who

707
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: was two weight divisions at least smaller than him, and

708
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: he struggled to a decision. So we know where Jake

709
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: is the best of the celebrity group, showing you some

710
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: attributes that lead you to believe, man, maybe this guy

711
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: could be something eventually in boxing. How good is Tommy

712
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: Fury in your opinion though from the tape you've seen,

713
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: from what we actually know.

714
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: About him, he's not.

715
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: Unfortunately for what I can tell now, I want to

716
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: be clear, he's young, right, I didn't realize he's just

717
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: twenty three.

718
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: He's very very young, so.

719
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: His capacity for improvement should not be slept on, should

720
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: not be ignored. But what we have is, in terms

721
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: of the tape, just a tape, So whatever has happened

722
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: in the past, and again that also doesn't I mean,

723
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: that's very much not a complete picture because I did

724
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: the tape study on the first and second Woodley fights

725
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: with Jake, and then he comes out against Anderson, and

726
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: he looked just way better than both of those, just

727
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: by a mile. So let's just a sort of posit that,

728
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: like you know, past isn't always prologue. But BC mentioned

729
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: the stat about the overall win records of his opponents.

730
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: In fact, if you go and look a little deeper

731
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: and you look at the last two opponents that Tommy

732
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: Fury has stopped, they have a combined record of oh

733
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: and sixty nine.

734
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: Good lord, the only ward the only.

735
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: Two guys he's actually or I should say, the last

736
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: two guys he's put away don't have a single boxing

737
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: win and nearly one hundred fights between them. I mean,

738
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: this is what we're talking about here. Like I said

739
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the show, I really didn't understand

740
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Tommy Fury denigrating Jake Paul. I mean, I get it

741
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: for promotional purposes, but then when you just look around,

742
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, Jake Paul's resume is better.

743
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: It is. I'm sorry it is.

744
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: And you could be like, oh, you guys work at showtime, Dude,

745
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: this fight ain't on showtime. Yeah, like we have to

746
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: cover it for CBS Sports, But like if it wasn't

747
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: for that, like I probably would just skip it all together.

748
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm not into this. It doesn't do anything for me.

749
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: But the facts aren't what they are. Like from what

750
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: we know up to this point, Jake Paul is vastly better.

751
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: I've not seen a ton.

752
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: From Tommy Fury. I don't.

753
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of, like you know, fairly foundational

754
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: elements built out BC, but he doesn't have anything super

755
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: signature that I can point to that really kind of

756
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: stands out. He does a decent JAB obviously he's very strong,

757
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: but even the NBC, like someone was asking me, I forget,

758
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: maybe it was an HQ yesterday, you know, Oh, well, Tommy's.

759
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Got big power. I'm like, you sure it's better than Jake's.

760
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure about that.

761
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: Ah.

762
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I think Jake's probably the harder hitter of the two.

763
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, I think.

764
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 2: You might be right, especially ot a one punch scenario.

765
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: Jake's left hook in particular that he buried Woodley with,

766
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Wasn't that a left hook? Luke on the Woodley reabright

767
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: hand overhand, right hand? Excuse me, but you know its

768
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: left hook's been quick. There. Here's the thing he's got. Jake.

769
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Paul's got four knockouts and six wins as a pro.

770
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Tommy's got four and eight. But look, I watched, you know,

771
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: highlights of each of his stoppage wins, and it's obviously

772
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: against very low level competition. But I don't know. I mean,

773
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: he's not even landing these power punches cleanly. They were

774
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: sort of accumulation of shots, guys covering up getting hit

775
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: partial and just sort of not getting back up. What's

776
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Tommy's best attribute here? His last name? I mean, this

777
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: is where we're really at with this fight, Luke. He's

778
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: muscle bound, he looks good, right, he looks the part

779
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: of a boxer. But when Jake makes fun of a

780
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: lot the fact that his legs are much smaller and

781
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: skinnier compared to his upper body, he's not wrong. He

782
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: seems to be a big kid that if he can

783
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: use his physicality to his advantage, this could be a

784
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: different wrinkle for Jake because look, for the most part,

785
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's fought boxers smaller and lighter than him. The

786
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva one was the first time he thought a

787
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: guy that size wise at least was head on. Obviously,

788
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Anderson was older, but had certain levels of experience that

789
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: made that his toughest challenge to date on paper. I'm

790
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: just not sure that Anderson Silva is not tougher here

791
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: of a challenge than Tommy Fury. I think it is

792
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Fury does not put his punches together well. I think

793
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: his worst attribute is really a lack overall of defense

794
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: or head movement or really the smooth sort of way

795
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: of putting that together. Yes he could land a big

796
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: right hand. Yes he's got an okay jab, but man,

797
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure on the family name here

798
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: entering this and Luke, this might be the time to

799
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: throw to the video of what happened at Friday. At

800
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: Thursday's press conference, excuse me where the topic of the

801
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: family name and the topic of a bet came up?

802
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: And you know in the past, Jake Paul likes to

803
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: bet things. Bet the tattoo for Tyron Woodley, bet the

804
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Tommy Fumble's name. He remember he was gonna have Tommy

805
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Fury change his Twitter name. We got a new bet

806
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: for Sunday's fight. Let's watch this from the press conference.

807
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 5: I think we make I think we make a deal. Then,

808
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: since you're so confident, I think we make a deal.

809
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: If you win, I'll pay you double what I'm paying

810
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 5: you already. But if I win, I take everything.

811
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: That I'm paying you.

812
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Delicious dealer.

813
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: No deal since you're so confident, dealer and no deal.

814
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 5: Since you're so confident, take it dealer, no deal, take it, dealer,

815
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: no deal.

816
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: I want to shake on it. How are you gonna

817
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: stand up like you want to?

818
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 5: Do?

819
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: You some much? Sit back down.

820
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I just want to shake down, Sit back down.

821
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Answer the question. You don't you've got a deal. It's

822
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: all a looking, it's all looking. You've got it.

823
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: You've got it, You've got it. It's got it. I'll

824
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: put the first.

825
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 5: Over.

826
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: You heard that, ladies and gentlemen.

827
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: It's a deal.

828
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: It's a deal.

829
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: Look your reaction to John Fury, big John answering for

830
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: a sud dude.

831
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: John.

832
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: This is the problem for Tommy that I feel like,

833
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: again it's very hard to say this with any real

834
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: degree of confidence. Heels like from the outside is that

835
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: Fury's got this last name. Tommy Fury has this last name,

836
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: and it's really good for him in terms of spotlight,

837
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: it's really good in terms for him, it's got it

838
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: confers any number of benefits. But the problem is that

839
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: I feel like his family around him wants him to

840
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: be something, and they're just shoving him into circumstances.

841
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Whether he's good for it or ready for it, or

842
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's.

843
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: A great idea for him in the end, Jake, if

844
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: he wins, will still pay Tommy. I mean, this is

845
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: all contractually obligated. But the point in wanting to make

846
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: here is it just fun?

847
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: You know?

848
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: Hold on, I don't know if you're right, they said.

849
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Jake said he had a lawyers making up the paperwork.

850
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: Tommy was interviewed even hours after the pressure and they said,

851
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: is this legit? Are you gonna sign it? He said absolutely?

852
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Why would I not bet on myself here?

853
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: All right?

854
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: Either way he's being it feels like he's just being

855
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: dragged into shit and pushed into shit because he has

856
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: he's part of the Klan and all of a sudden,

857
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: you got to be part of it now in every way.

858
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know if he's that guy Fellas.

859
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna find out, but it doesn't seem

860
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: like it.

861
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: It was just funny that big John who's you know,

862
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, not going to back down from a challenge ever, right,

863
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: He'll take his shirt off at any moment, challenge any

864
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: living human to a bare knuckle street fight, because that's

865
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: how he gets down he scoops eyeballs out, you know,

866
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: with his fishhooks there, Luke, it felt like Tommy wasn't

867
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: gonna say yes, and Dad jumped in and did it

868
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: for him. And there was one other quote that it

869
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: almost felt felt sad to hear. Did you hear when

870
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: John Fury went on when he was asked a question

871
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: about what the stakes are in this fight and whatever?

872
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: He basically said, you know, Tommy's fighting to keep up

873
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: the good name of world champion Tyson Fury, his brother,

874
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: but said it in a much it's a way that

875
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: put a lot of pressure on Tommy to live up

876
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: to that. You know, to Tommy's credit, anytime he's asked

877
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: about this bet or this fight, he has the right answer. Look,

878
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: we interviewed him in the past. He talks a great game,

879
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: good looking kid. You can see him having a successful

880
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: reality career in any kind of those avenues that he wants.

881
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: The tape tells you he can't fight now. Obviously, when

882
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: you're at this level, with this level of combined inexperience,

883
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: you never know who's gonna get cut and it could ruin.

884
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: The fight gas out and it could ruin, Like anything

885
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: can happen chaos can happen and when people don't have

886
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: a ton of professional experience. But Jake, he's just he's

887
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: already passed some of those early tests. If Jake was

888
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: gonna fall apart, it would have been against Anderson Silver,

889
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: it really would have been right, or would have been

890
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: that first fight with Woodley where he was knocked into

891
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: the ropes and he for this level, Jake's pretty damn

892
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: battle tested. So you gotta go Jake at the end

893
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: of the day.

894
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: You just have to.

895
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: For an eight round cruiserweight fight here, you just have to.

896
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: But Luke, there are other type of stakes here that

897
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: are disturbing for me. You know my feelings in most

898
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: hardcore boxing fans, on the sanctioning bodies, the four major ones,

899
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: they constantly make decisions that are head scratching, self serving,

900
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: sometimes you know, corrupt in nature. I mean, it's just

901
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: it's baffling. You know. The WBC likes to make world

902
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: title belts for any fight, for any reason. They did

903
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: again for this one. It's got a Saudi Arabian theme.

904
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: It looks like it's very expensive, but Mauricio sue them

905
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: on Junior, the president of the WBC. He's taking it

906
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: further this time, and I don't think enough people are

907
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: talking about this. He says. The winner of this fight

908
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: will receive a top fifteen WBC cruiserweight ranking or sorry.

909
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: He said specifically, if Jake Paul gets the win, he will, right,

910
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: And the reason why that matters is you have to

911
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: be ranked in the top fifteen under WBC rules to

912
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: get a title shot. What he's essentially arguing is that

913
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Jake Paul has fought the equivalent through eight fights, and

914
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm not here to trash Jake Paul's resume as a

915
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: social media influencer turned boxer, Like he's escalated at a

916
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: pretty quick you know. Andyson Gibb is not a tough fight, right.

917
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: Nate Robinson, who'd never fought before in his five foot

918
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: seven not a tough fight in this sense. The other

919
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: ones he's escalated, but they're basically trying to set the

920
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: stage here for Jake whenever he wants moving forward to

921
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: to sort of cash himself out if you will and

922
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: actually fight a legitimate cruiseweight champion. We have a lunga

923
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: makabu in the Colemane event, as I mentioned, taking on

924
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Badu Jack four the WBC cruiseweight Championship. It feels too

925
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: synergetic for my liking here, Luke, how the hell can

926
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: we take forty seven year old Anderson Silva, thirty eight,

927
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: thirty nine year old Tyson Tyron Woodley twice Ben Askern

928
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: post tip surgery and try to compare this to any

929
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: boxer's first ten to fifteen fights. Like, good for Jake.

930
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: I respect Jake. He's doing it the right way. If

931
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: he's going to be a top fifteen ranked cruiserweight with

932
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: a win over Tommy Fury. Dude, this is just straight

933
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: up hashtag that's boxing, Like, that's bullshit.

934
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's complete bullshit. If there's nothing to it, it's

935
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: not real.

936
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it might rereal in the sense that it happens,

937
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 3: but this is just credentialism in the worst kind of way.

938
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: We're going to give this guy a certain degree of

939
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: authenticity just for marketing purposes, you know, to advance WBC's interest.

940
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: It's fucking gross, it's sick. It is It is cheap opportunism,

941
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: it's transactionalism. It's just absolutely trading on whatever legitimacy you

942
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: have for you know, short term monetary gain. Certainly, this

943
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: is There's been one criticism that the UFC brass have

944
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: had of boxing that I do think is true, and

945
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: it's partly a function of just the way the industry

946
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: is set up. But they've said a lot of things

947
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: are just nonsense. But one thing that they've said is

948
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: true is that if you just look at the people

949
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: in boxing who make decisions, who are in positions of power,

950
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: they too often make short term decisions without any any

951
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: concern for what the long term effect might be for

952
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: the larger sport, like, so long as they can benefit

953
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, now or now ish, whatever happens later, we'll

954
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: deal with that later. But we're just going to protect

955
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: ourselves and no one's really taking care of the industry.

956
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: Now you can argue, well, is UFC really taking care

957
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: of MMA or taken over MMA? That's a separate debate.

958
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: But BC per this one, that criticism is right on

959
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: the money. That's exactly what they're doing here. It's gross.

960
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Don't buy into it, don't award it, don't give it

961
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: any legitimacy. It's gross. It's just sick.

962
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: The WBC is the same. You know, if you ask me,

963
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: who's the dirtiest of the four, who's consistently breaking boxing

964
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: purest hearts. If that would be the WBA with them

965
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: constantly creating crap title, but WBC does some of those

966
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: same sins. They created the bridgeweight division when the rest

967
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: of boxing essentially rejected it. They have the super champion nonsense,

968
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: which is basically their way of saying, if we have

969
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: a celebrity champion like a Canelo, we don't want to

970
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: make him have to face mandatories. He can keep the

971
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: belt and be the super champion, and then we'll just

972
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: crown another WBC champion underneath them in the same division.

973
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Like it's it's such out of bullshit. This feels like

974
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: that Jake's record of opponents combined record is three and two,

975
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: but four of those were making their pro debut. That

976
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: three and two combined pro experience is the Woodley lost

977
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: to Paul and then Anderson Silva's previous boxing pro background

978
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: before that fight. So damn. I mean, look, when we've

979
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: seen people on Jake Paul cards in the past, it

980
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: typically has been like a potential preview for a future opportunity.

981
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Is that why Alungo Makabu is on here? Because I'm

982
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: a little nervous right now?

983
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: To be fair, right, probably probably, But like, dude, like,

984
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: are they gonna make fight with him and Jake Paul?

985
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: If Jake wins', that's a massacre.

986
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the right question though, in terms of

987
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: how do you think Jake closed the year? Because the

988
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: PFL owner who Don Davis, told Ariel a couple months

989
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: back that Jake's not going to debut in MMA until

990
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. We saw Jake sa this week that

991
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: he still wants to fight Nate Ds to close the year.

992
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: He wants to do a boxing match and an MMA

993
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: match back to back. I don't know if that'll happen whatever,

994
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: it seems like a bad idea. In terms of the

995
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: MMA side, You've got KSI right, who has his own

996
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: promotion and division under the Zones banner, constantly telling everyone,

997
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: including Ariel this week that his big fight, his big

998
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: money fight, is Jake Right. Ksi is box Logan twice

999
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: already has not fought Jake. You've got his own Luke,

1000
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: who has KSI tweeting out a lot of Jake promotion

1001
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: this week, even though Jake's fighting on ESPN. So are

1002
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: we setting up a Ksi Jake fight to close the

1003
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: year that will probably be big in influencer circles, but

1004
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: does it necessar rarely escalate Jake's you know, momentum in

1005
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: terms of stepping up opponents. Where do you think Jake

1006
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: ends this year? Do you care?

1007
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't care at all, especially if it's a

1008
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: KSI fight, Like all of this is just for Jake.

1009
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I'm gonna say it's one more time. Like,

1010
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: if you're going to be party to this, it's because

1011
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: you've got some investment in them. And that's fine if

1012
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: you do, like that's the thing you care about, great,

1013
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: But like, if you care about high end boxing, this

1014
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: is just not it.

1015
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm not gonna be mad at him. Go

1016
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: make your money. It's life is short and it's hard

1017
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: to make money. Go make it. But like, yeah, I

1018
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: just it is. It's just not relevant to my life.

1019
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: So all right, So I mean, look, could he blow

1020
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: At some point? Jake is going to cash in that

1021
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: thing though though if he keeps winning, look that that

1022
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: opportunity at a world title. I just wonder when and

1023
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: where what the timing is, Like, are there more celebrities

1024
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: to try to fight first? Is MMA going to be

1025
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: a real full time path form. There are a lot

1026
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: of questions if you care about the Jake Paul circus,

1027
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: and look, you're gonna get a lot of people coming

1028
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: after you after the show and saying, well, Luke Warren'

1029
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: you promoting this for showtime? Now you're critical. We've always

1030
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: been honest, Okay, We've always been very Yeah.

1031
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: For a check, Yeah right, I mean it's my job.

1032
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: If it's my job, I'll do it. You're just asking me, like,

1033
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: how much do I care about Jake Paul boxing Tommy

1034
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Fury and KSI like, not much, not much. I'm not

1035
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna go out here and tell you that you shouldn't

1036
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: watch it or it's terrible, but it doesn't do much

1037
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: for me.

1038
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Sunday afternoon, is this fight on ESPN

1039
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: plus pay per view? Luke? Saturday, there's another pay per

1040
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: view fight. It's an exhibition though on like Jake Paul's fight,

1041
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Floyd Mayweather. He just turned forty six.

1042
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: He's back in another exhibition that's gonna air on the

1043
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: new streaming app ord. I don't know if it's new actually,

1044
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: but have you heard of the Zeus network, Luke, that's

1045
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: where you can buy the pay per view on the

1046
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: Zeus or not Saturday at the O two Arena in London.

1047
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 2: By the way, Aaron Chalmers is the opponent, the thirty

1048
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: five year old x MMA fighter, reality TV star under

1049
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: the Jeordy Shore and X on the Beach brands. He

1050
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: went five and two a MMA. He's retired now. He

1051
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: fought in Belatore a few times. I know you don't

1052
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 2: care at all, so I'm not gonna waste that question.

1053
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: But we do have one bit of sound from the

1054
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: press conference to get you fired up for this one.

1055
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: Here we go about going to the Olympics. That was

1056
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: one of my goals.

1057
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 6: Excuse me, whoever child that is, you'a gotta take the

1058
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 6: child out, please, I'll wait, thank you, No disrespect, but

1059
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: you know, uh, this is a press conference and it's

1060
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 6: not a daycare so we just want to make sure

1061
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 6: we're all want to make sure we're all on the

1062
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 6: same page.

1063
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: To be That's what I say to you every time

1064
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: you walk in studio.

1065
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is uh, this is a conference

1066
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: for an exhibition boxing match against a reality TV star,

1067
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: not a daycare center.

1068
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: So have some respect and for in sanctity for this

1069
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: grand occasion you have.

1070
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Will you even catch a a Twitter gift, a Twitter jiff?

1071
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: Nothing you got nothing for means nothing. Look, there's sometimes

1072
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: rumors about Floyd like actually taking a somewhat quasi reel

1073
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: boxing match. Do you ever think he takes like a

1074
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: middle ground like you know, sometimes people like could he

1075
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: will he box Nate Diaz? And like a real type

1076
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: ish fight, will he box Manny? Again? Like, is there

1077
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: any scenario you think he does there?

1078
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: It is possible, It is possible he could take one

1079
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: more big one, but again it would have to be

1080
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: against like an MMA fighter in a real boxing bout,

1081
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: but an MME fighter just the same.

1082
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: But like con rematch or n Yeah, yeah, something like

1083
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: that like that, but other than that, nor all right? Also, Luke,

1084
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: you mentioned it uh on Wednesday one Fight Night seven

1085
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: is tonight Lumpini Boxing Stadium in Bangkok. John Lenniker from

1086
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: Primeo Andre Lumpini, Lumpinie, Daniel Kelly also back, Luke the

1087
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: rising grappling start taking on Ayaka may Era in a

1088
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: catchway submission grappling match. Anything else you want to sprinkle

1089
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: onto this, Luke.

1090
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: Now in terms of the card, Yeah, no, all right,

1091
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: great talking covers.

1092
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: And also tonight Kenner Louisiana. Look, let's put some respect

1093
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: on the momentum BKFC is building, at least from like

1094
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: the standpoint of showing up on this show. Arnold all Adams,

1095
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Arnold Adams putting the heavyweight title on the line against

1096
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: Alan Belcher. We already know that Lorenzo Hunt, not Lamar

1097
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: Hunt that I kept calling him the other day. Lorenzo

1098
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: Hunt wants to become a three division champion. He'll probably

1099
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: be ringside. He may jump in the ring and do

1100
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: some shit after. Will you watch at all this evening?

1101
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: All right? Great talking to Alan Belcher. Once fought Sexyama

1102
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: and I think he beat him, Right, dude.

1103
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: I saw Sexyama. Have you seen this show Physical one

1104
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: hundred on Netflix?

1105
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: CM the menu all the time. He he's the picture

1106
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: that comes up when you're flipping through.

1107
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's actually kind of amazing.

1108
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: People don't know this, but back when he fought the

1109
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: real Girbacca hitman, kazuwol Masaki, they had a they had

1110
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: an epic rivalry and for folks who don't know, I

1111
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: can't remember the full details, but it's either that so

1112
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: Yoshihi Akiyama is I think he's half Korean half Japanese.

1113
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: So I think, but I think he started out with

1114
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: full Korean uh sort of a national I have to

1115
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: go back and check this out, but I know that

1116
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: there is some tension in Korea about how he has

1117
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: some kind of even in Japan as well.

1118
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: Excuse me, he has some kind of dual identity.

1119
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that MMA fans know him by his

1120
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: Japanese name, Yoshihi Akaiyama. In this Korean television show he

1121
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: goes by his Korean name, which is I forget at

1122
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: this point. It's it's so seldom used. But I remember

1123
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: when he fought Masaki, it was a big point of

1124
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: contention about who was actually Japanese and who was actually

1125
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 3: representing people.

1126
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: That was a big deal for him. He had a

1127
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: I had to overcome a lot with the Japanese fans.

1128
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you mentioned tension in South Korea, Luke,

1129
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: there's tension in Japan and his name is Nasakawa. Did

1130
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: you know that? Jimmy Lennon Junior told me that tension

1131
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Nosakawa who wants Box Floyd? Remember that? You know he

1132
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: went all out and got stopped. He's turning pro as

1133
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: a boxer, Luke, and it's actually like big news over there.

1134
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: And he's promoted by mister Honda, who is a Niowa

1135
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: new A's promoter, and they're like gonna make a run

1136
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: at him becoming a boxing champion. You into the.

1137
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, okay, we'll see what he could do.

1138
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: Me.

1139
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: He got run over by Floyd and you know, you

1140
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 3: just don't only know what's left for him, but but yeah, sure.

1141
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike. He's telling us that Alan Belcher said he's

1142
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: open to a BKFC fight with Francis and Ganu for

1143
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: the heavyweight championship there if he wins on Friday.

1144
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: That's definitely where Francis is headed BKFC.

1145
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: What do you make of Jake Paul saying that he's

1146
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Francis and get him to sign with

1147
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 2: the PFL, Like, do you have any early early idea?

1148
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh wait, we're talking about Francis later. Let's keep the

1149
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: show moving, all right? What am I doing here? What

1150
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: a jerk? Luke Number two takes us to some Connor

1151
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: McGregor news. We know he's in Las Vegas filming The

1152
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: Ultimate Fighter opposite Michael Chandler. Our good buddy Oscar Willis

1153
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: of the Mac Life caught off with him briefly yesterday.

1154
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: But the bigger news, Luke, is that the woman in

1155
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: Ireland who has filed high court who had Look what's

1156
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: happened here, I'm juggling my words. The woman who accused Economy.

1157
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: Right, she initially did an accuse, then she did try

1158
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: to have charges pressed, and now she is withdrawing them

1159
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: yet again.

1160
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: So she claimed that she had shown up on the

1161
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: boat in what Spain where uh Connor was partying for

1162
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: his birthday, and that she was accosted that she had

1163
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: to essentially jump off the edge into the water and

1164
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: run for her life. There were some even deeper accusations

1165
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: made by some media members that it was more than

1166
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: just physical accosting. Luke. Now she's pulled the idea altogether.

1167
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with this news because

1168
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: Connor's often embroiled in many of these things, which is

1169
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: either him being a big celebrity name that's easy to

1170
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: attach to, or him live in a dirty life on

1171
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: the outside. Luke, that needs check. Do you look at

1172
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: this news as the truth came clear or something different.

1173
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to feel with this.

1174
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: One thing that we forgot to mention.

1175
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: Do you remember when we were going through all of

1176
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: the incidents that Connor's had and he got famous and

1177
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: we were listening, we forgot about the one. Do you

1178
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 3: remember what the Italian DJ said that Connor just attacked

1179
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: him out of nowhere and punched.

1180
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Him in the face and whatnot.

1181
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: We didn't even get to that one, because that one

1182
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: sounds a lot like this one, like out of nowhere

1183
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: just starts wailing on people. But again, she no longer

1184
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: is going through with the process. Whoever this person is

1185
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: for whatever reasons, it's just funny Connor's back and here

1186
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: comes John Jones, and people are just ready to completely

1187
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: even with John, like with his issues in Vegas more recently,

1188
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: during the Hall of Fame induction ceremony, everyone's just kind

1189
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we don't care about that, just kind

1190
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: of get back to fighting.

1191
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: We just we want to see you guys back in fighting.

1192
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 3: And so between people's forgetting between in cases like this

1193
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: where it just becomes unclear about what to say.

1194
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: About any of it.

1195
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: Yet the one thing that is clear is they're both

1196
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: headed back to the octagon, and so that's just where

1197
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: all the attention has moved.

1198
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, the previous accuser of the woman had mentioned told

1199
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: The Independent her lawyer did that a notice of disconcontinuance

1200
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: was filed after it was decided that she wanted the

1201
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: case terminated. Look, there are some people that have said

1202
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: this whole tough thing is just to try to get

1203
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, Connor's good name back to cover up the

1204
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: other stuff. I don't know. I wasn't there. I don't

1205
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 2: know the truth. But there's been a consistent bad pattern

1206
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: here of Connor really since c Eddie Alparez fight. Right,

1207
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a wild, a freaking wild seven

1208
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: year run in and outside of rings and cages, with

1209
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: with this type of stuff resurfacing a few times. It's

1210
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: not a great look, Luke, whether you know all all

1211
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: things to consider, just it.

1212
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: Just doesn't seem to have any pronounced long term effect

1213
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: from what we can tell.

1214
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Connor, Look at the people that are

1215
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: following this closely. Jedi Goodman one of them that I

1216
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: follow on Twitter. Connor still has not been tested in

1217
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three by USADA. Amazing, even though he's already

1218
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: started the coaching process even though he was just jacked

1219
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: as shit for the for the remake of the Roadhouse movie,

1220
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: and he would need under rule a six month window

1221
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: to test clean before coming back and fighting. So if

1222
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: it's late February now they're filming tough, Now, when is

1223
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: he gonna fight Chandler? Will they actually stick to that

1224
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: six month thing or will they bend it in half

1225
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: like they did for brock Lesner ahead of UFC two

1226
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: hundred And is there any chance they're just gonna wait

1227
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: for it, all the flesh out of his system and

1228
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: then test him a ton of times? What's going on here?

1229
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1230
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess is as good as mine on these.

1231
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: I don't have a better answer for you, but let

1232
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: me just say this, here's my best guess, Brian Campbell. Ready,

1233
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 3: if Connor wants to fight in September, they're gonna find

1234
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: a way to make it happen. If he wants to

1235
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: fight in August or October, they'll find a way to

1236
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: make it happen.

1237
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.

1238
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: Exactly which lever is gonna be pulled at what time

1239
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: and in what way. That part, to me remains very

1240
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 3: much unclear. To your point, he has to re enter

1241
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: the testing pool no matter what what happens. Then you

1242
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: know how long will he actually stay in there before

1243
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: the UFC just decides we've had enough, let's put him

1244
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: into whatever world we want to put him into.

1245
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: They have that discretion, we all know it.

1246
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: So I don't really know how the process is gonna go,

1247
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: but it looks to me like he's definitely gonna fight

1248
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, and whenever he's ready, the Commission

1249
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 3: will move things for him.

1250
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: You saw to UFC whatever whatever, whatever needs to happen

1251
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: in order for him to fight, it will period. That's it,

1252
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: Like there's a no way they stop him.

1253
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we're very critical of Connor in certain

1254
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: major missteps or the thread of them, but you know,

1255
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: him coming back as a monster deal for us as fans,

1256
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: for us as journalists, for everything. I mean, we'll want

1257
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: to see it back. I'm actually gonna watch tough closely, Luke.

1258
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: So they've succeeded there, but a lot of questions still.

1259
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: His interview with Oscar Willis yesterday, which I believe is

1260
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: the first time Connor spoke like this in a long time.

1261
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: Not much to take from that. He respects Michael Chandler.

1262
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: A lot Oscar asked what division the fight will be in?

1263
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: We all assume to hear it's gonna be welterweight. White

1264
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: Connor tried to make a joke and say, hey, how

1265
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: about one to eighty five. I assume this is gonna

1266
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: be like the Cowboy fight, a walterweight fight. I do

1267
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: like we talked about when it was signed. You know,

1268
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Connor's got big chances here given his counter striking ability.

1269
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: But there's already some you know, static coming out of

1270
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: the Tough House. If you follow the Twitter account of

1271
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: one Gilbert Burns, can we've throw to this item, Luke,

1272
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: did you see what Gilbert put out there?

1273
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm I did.

1274
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: It's a series of Instagram posts where he's basically saying,

1275
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: this is my teammate. This guy Lloyke rods Above, two

1276
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: time PFL finalist at one fifty five, works so hard

1277
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: and was ready to finally get his shot in the

1278
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: UFC on Tough was in Vegas. Everything good to go.

1279
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: This freaking Connor bring his own guys and they kick

1280
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: him out. Not fear fair, I think, is what he

1281
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: meant to say. Uh, do you care is this true?

1282
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: Connor would delete this response, but his response was not true.

1283
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: I only know one guy in the show, and he

1284
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: put himself forward for it, and he is now after today,

1285
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: set to fight the number one seed. I didn't ask

1286
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: nor request nothing, and I certainly didn't have people removed.

1287
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: Just trying to get back in the mix myself.

1288
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: It's a fuck off, Yeah, I mean, apparently here's the thing.

1289
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: This is the issue, the issue that as I understand

1290
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: it was whoever got picked for the show. They showed

1291
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: up and were told they were on the show, and

1292
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: then last minute there was a switch for what was

1293
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: perceived to be a guy on either his team or

1294
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: associated with him or whatever. Maybe even a couple of guys.

1295
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: Up to three I think was the number. In the end,

1296
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: I guess we'll see what the truth is. And so

1297
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: the point being is it's not a big deal. So

1298
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: goes the argument that he want his guys in there.

1299
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: But if the cast was actually set and then they

1300
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: had to go home, that's super shitty. That's the part

1301
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: where they get up ended. But like you know, it's

1302
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: not like I disagree with that PC, but it's we

1303
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: just live in a world where people of this level

1304
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: of wealth and power just get to do shit.

1305
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: You and I just don't get to do.

1306
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so it sucks.

1307
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: But what do you what the fuck you woman to say? Like, yeah,

1308
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: a rich guy got his guys taken care of.

1309
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: Welcome love that you've already predicted that when they announced

1310
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: this Connor Chandler fight for International Fight Week or whenever? When? Wait,

1311
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: do we know when the Tough series? What's the air?

1312
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: The air air dates.

1313
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: It shoots for about six weeks, so I'm not sure

1314
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: when when Mikey knows I think Mikey.

1315
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: Didn't you tell us it was gonna air from like

1316
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: May to June or something. It was a summer air

1317
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: if it airs leading leading directly up to International Fight Week.

1318
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean, what's you said? Just gonna say, oh, we

1319
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: we have been testing him secretly for for a while.

1320
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: I mean that you're already predicting that that's coming, Like,

1321
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: oh no, we've been testing him for a while. It's fine.

1322
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not predicting a date, and I'm not predicting

1323
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: a place. I'm not a weight class nothing. I'm just saying,

1324
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 3: whenever he wants to fight like that, there they.

1325
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: Will make it happen.

1326
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: There's no way they're gonna be like you have to

1327
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: wait six months get there.

1328
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: In history, the biggest stars of all time get that privilege.

1329
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: They do, Yes, they do. That's the world we look

1330
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and I that's not great, Like it sucks for everyone

1331
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: else who's not that guy. I don't like it. There

1332
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: should be less of it.

1333
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: But like when it comes your way, it's kind of

1334
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: like right, you know, powerful people use the leverage that

1335
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: they have to get things that they want.

1336
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes.

1337
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: It'll begin airing in the United States on the ESPN

1338
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: television May thirtieth to August fifteenth, so we'll go right

1339
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: through International Fight Week, so.

1340
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: That cancels that. So, like you mentioned earlier, could we

1341
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: be looking at a big September zoom in or is

1342
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: this more of MSG in November or is this more

1343
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: of right right, second weekend in December to close out

1344
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: the year. We'll have to wait and see. But if

1345
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: Connor got tested today, that would put that would still

1346
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: put in what that put him late September six months.

1347
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so late March, late April, late May, late June,

1348
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: late July, on.

1349
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: Late August, late August. Sorry, my math skills falling behind

1350
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: brutally there late August. All right, still possible, Still possible.

1351
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: Topic number three takes us to the guy in a

1352
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: different way. Not the biggest on the sport, but arguably

1353
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: the best fighter Islam Mahachavier, reigning and defending UFC Lightweight Champion.

1354
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: I think it's past us now going back and forth

1355
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: and debating everything from the IV to the scoring in

1356
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: his close win over Alexander Volkanowski and the overall debate

1357
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: about pound for pound. But Islam tweeted out something that

1358
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 2: I think is meant to move the conversation forward, who

1359
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: is next? And Luke. He got some celebrity responses from that,

1360
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: first from Volkanovsky, who quote tweeted, let's run it back

1361
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: and give the people what they want. Then we heard

1362
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: from the great American action hero himself, Dustin the Diamond Pourier,

1363
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: who responded with what's up, Luke Thomas. It could be

1364
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: a number of folks from who's next in line to

1365
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: celebrities flying in what should be and what will be next?

1366
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: For the lightweight champion? Host Ramadan, I.

1367
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: Don't have a good answer for who will be next

1368
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: and what should be next? Because we don't have enough information. Again,

1369
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: if dary I don't know if the timing works out.

1370
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: So when is to eighty eight BC? When is UFC

1371
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: two eighty eight? So UFC two eighty eight if they

1372
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: end up making that, uh, that fight for that weekend,

1373
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: maybe May six, Okay, not that far from here. So

1374
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: if Daryush ends up winning in May, then you could

1375
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: do June July. You could do June or August till

1376
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: July or August four potentially maka chev So I think

1377
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: that is what probably should be next. But then there's

1378
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: the Connor sweepstake. So is he back in September? I

1379
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: guess he still has to fight Chandler, so that would

1380
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: be a little bit maybe end of the year slash

1381
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: first quarter twenty twenty four.

1382
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: So let's put Connor aside for just a second. Yeah, dude,

1383
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: it's darry USh.

1384
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: It's dar USh, and I saw a lot of people

1385
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: are still on this. We want to see the Vulcan

1386
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: fight again. I gotta tell you, dude, I don't.

1387
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't.

1388
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: I want to see Yes, I want to see it,

1389
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 3: but not next. I want to see Vulcan beat or

1390
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: fight anyway. Yea air because if ya hear wins that

1391
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 3: it blows everything up in a totally new direction in

1392
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: the way which, by the way, it's supposed to be.

1393
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: That guy earned that spot, he earned that interim title,

1394
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 3: and if he beats Folkanowski, every part of that went

1395
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: the way it was supposed to write. So in terms

1396
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: of fairness anyway, So I would much rather see that

1397
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: we got to see this for five rounds. I would

1398
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: love to see another five, but not at the expense

1399
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: of just just you know, not making dude the most

1400
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 3: I've said. Someone asked me in my life chain yesterday

1401
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: we see for free for free BC. Yeah, they asked me, like,

1402
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, is being a double champ the hardest thing

1403
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: to do? Because you saw Izzy go up and he

1404
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. You saw Vulcal up and you know,

1405
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: against disputed, but he couldn't do it. Isn't it isn't

1406
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: going up another weight class in the UFC becoming a

1407
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: champ champ the hardest thing, And certainly it's an extremely

1408
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: difficult thing to do. But if we're talking about like

1409
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: broader achievements, what's the hardest thing to do in MMA?

1410
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: And my answer is defending a weight class, defending a

1411
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: UFC weight class title over time. That's just the hardest

1412
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: thing because you cannot do that for very long. It's

1413
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 3: very very even the very best ones. You know, what's

1414
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: the what's the biggest winning streak eleven or whatever it

1415
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: is for title defenses, It's just so hard to do

1416
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: consistent excellence like that over time. That to me is

1417
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: the hard part. I want to see more of that.

1418
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that.

1419
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: None of that bores me.

1420
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: None of that in any way makes me like sad

1421
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: or feels like I'm missing out on something. I want

1422
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: to see the best of the way class go. Why

1423
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: do you have a fucking one fifty five? It would

1424
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 3: have to be extra extra extra extraordinarily necessary for that

1425
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: fight to be made right back to back.

1426
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: It's not move on, it's not no.

1427
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: Not with not with the big win at featherweight for

1428
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: Yaya Rodriguez, and not with what we're talking about at lightweight.

1429
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: So let's dip back in here for a second. How

1430
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: is the fight to make next? Not Dustin Pourrier. Look, uh,

1431
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: he's ranked number two in the division, the number one

1432
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: ranked former champions Charles Olivera, who's fighting number four, Benil Deriush.

1433
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: The winner of that which will you know need three, four,

1434
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: five months, six months in between, would definitely be my

1435
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: number one contender. You also have Justin Gaetgee fighting soon,

1436
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: which is another important bout because Gaigie's ranked three. Faziv

1437
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: is ranked six. The number five is Michael Chandler, who

1438
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: just lost but is now in a pay per view bout.

1439
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: Who did he lose to number two Dustin Poorier in

1440
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: a very manly, incredible exciting performance. He has not fought Machev.

1441
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: I think it's time for him to get twenty five

1442
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: more minutes to make life fair here, Luke, because when

1443
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: you look further down the rankings, number seven is Gamra,

1444
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: who's gonna fight number ten Jalen Turner, eight is armand

1445
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Sarukian nine is Urda the legend. Tell me why it

1446
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't be Poorier next, considering what he just did to Chandler.

1447
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 3: Probably because I'm just not convinced it would be very

1448
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he's up at the top, but he's had

1449
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 3: several chances to win a title and they've not gone well.

1450
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: I've you know, no one has anything bad to say

1451
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: about Ustin Poorier as a fighter or a person.

1452
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: But I just don't buy that that's really competitive.

1453
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: And but that's not the argument here.

1454
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: The argument is he's available, But like that's not a

1455
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: strong argument either, Like I would rather wait for them.

1456
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: What argument does the UFC lean to more often than not?

1457
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: The business one, which says, if we have a champion

1458
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: who we want to potentially make popular, who isn't like

1459
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: popular just on his own career, charismatically on.

1460
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: A microphone, that's true. I don't think that's true.

1461
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: But you want to put him against a huge name

1462
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: former champion that he's probably gonna be favored to be.

1463
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: That's how you That's how promotion works, right like like this,

1464
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: you will not. I don't think we're gonna find a

1465
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: better time in this great twilight of Dustin Pourier where

1466
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: I counted him out. He is he getting old last time?

1467
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: No he's not. Okay, he's not. But I don't think

1468
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 2: he's gonna have another close up exactly like this where

1469
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: you just beat a top three or four guy in Chandler.

1470
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: Chandler's getting Connor next dude, Poitier's gotta be the guy.

1471
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: This is it, This is the fight to make. It's

1472
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: promotional malpractice. If you don't make it next it checks

1473
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: every box except for that one that you just said

1474
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: was well, isn't Poier gonna get beaten? I mean, let's

1475
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: find out, let's freaking find out.

1476
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing.

1477
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Google trends the past twelve months for

1478
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 3: both Makachev and Poarier. Makachev is still ahead, he actually

1479
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: has more and in most states. On top of that,

1480
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 3: the only states in the United States where Poarier gets

1481
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 3: more searches or oh you can imagine sort of your

1482
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: bible about their South Carolina, Alabama. I was obviously Louisiana

1483
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 3: and other places as well. But in general, Islam is

1484
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: more popular, Like I just don't buy Islam is like

1485
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 3: surprisingly popular, Like he doesn't. He's not the kind of

1486
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: guy that people are running huge features about or that

1487
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: fans do like adoration over their personality on social media

1488
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: with all these tidbits about stuff. But in terms of

1489
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: who fans pay attention to and prioritize, I'm not sure

1490
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 3: Islam's not already a bigger name than Poarier.

1491
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: Certainly they're pretty commensurate.

1492
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: See that's an interesting argument because I'm not trying to

1493
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: discount the habib rub or what comes with when you're

1494
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: dominating real real and you're the pound for pound king

1495
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: and you know, you just fall Volkanovski And maybe that

1496
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: wasn't promoted in the US to the level that we

1497
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: all argued it should have been. But dude, Poorier fought

1498
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: Connor twice on pay per view. Luke Poorier is like

1499
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: he's like has a Randy Cotur like all American vibe

1500
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: right now, as like the action star who delivers. I'm

1501
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: not saying he's gonna be Mahachev, but dude, like I

1502
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: would have to believe he's more popular and the name

1503
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: gets more instant, like, oh yeah, I'll pay for that

1504
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,560
Speaker 2: than Mahachev. But if you match them together, isn't that

1505
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: the right fight? Because if it's not Luke, then.

1506
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

1507
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: Are you waiting for the winner of Darius Olavera? Then

1508
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: what do you do with Poorier in that moment?

1509
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 3: Let's see, I don't have the rankings in front of

1510
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: me BC because that usually defines.

1511
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: My attitude on this.

1512
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: But if I did, and now I do, and I'm

1513
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: looking at them, so Parier could fight the winner.

1514
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,919
Speaker 1: Of uh of Physive and Gaigie.

1515
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: You could do that because they're because he's free and well,

1516
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: I mean he would have to wait too.

1517
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: So that's like if it's Gachie, if it's Grecy. I

1518
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: love it from like All Action rematch but also has

1519
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: title contention. You can also do it against Gage if

1520
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: he loses. For all I care, I just why would

1521
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: you have to Why would he have to go back

1522
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: and also beat Physique if he just if he'd just

1523
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: beat Chandler and a.

1524
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: Huge would you'll have to?

1525
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I guess you could do it,

1526
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: is the answer. Like, I see what you're saying. You

1527
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: could do it, But to me it seems unnecessary and

1528
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: slightly on the forced side, rather than we need to

1529
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 3: see Islam defend against this particular athlete at this time

1530
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: because they're the most deserving. It just doesn't feel like

1531
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 3: that's a strong argument. But to your point about schedules

1532
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: and trains leaving the station on time, I can see that, Yes,

1533
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 3: you could do that if you needed to.

1534
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: I mean, what's left in your eyes for Pooria big Fish?

1535
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: Like there was a it was a hot second where

1536
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 2: he wanted to fight Holby on pay per view. You,

1537
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: I guess you could do a fourth Connor fight, but

1538
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,919
Speaker 2: Nate's gone, Like, what are the big fish options outside

1539
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: of a title shot for in your eyes?

1540
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 3: Outside the title shot, I'm really not sure. I mean,

1541
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: there could be another big name that they want to

1542
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: attach him to, but it seems like that's actually his

1543
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: best bet at this point would be to go and

1544
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: try and get a weight class title in whatever way possible.

1545
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Walter White's gonna be a good option

1546
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: for him.

1547
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be one fifty five or bust because

1548
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 3: he can't make one forty five anymore. Obviously he hasn't

1549
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: for some time. So I think that's really going to

1550
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: be his best option. It's it's great in the weight

1551
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: class because there's obviously a lot of good names that

1552
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: could match him up with. But to your point, like

1553
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 3: a big marquee name, Slim Pickens right now at this point,

1554
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: he's a big he's he's a big attractive name.

1555
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: But in terms of like who he could target, it's

1556
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: Slim Pickens.

1557
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, you know Eddie Alvarez is a free agent

1558
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: and they made two very good fights against each other.

1559
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: Could that happen or no, We're not doing that.

1560
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Eddie has aged as well, since.

1561
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: No he hasn't. God, I'm just trying to give Poorier

1562
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: a reason to be on pay per view in a

1563
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: big spot, Luke, It's going to be for the title,

1564
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: and it should be for the title. Okay, Okay, that's it.

1565
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: That's it, all right.

1566
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: I think it's you know again. I can't say you're wrong,

1567
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 3: because I don't think you are, but I just don't.

1568
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 2: I seems like a waste to me, because you know,

1569
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: they could have They could have just given Olivera for

1570
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: Poorier in a rematch and then basically say Benny, you

1571
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: got next for the title.

1572
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: They could have done that, yeah, true, And then our

1573
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: producer saying, if Olivera wins, do you do Olivera Partier two?

1574
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: You could?

1575
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: You could do that as well wins.

1576
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: He wants to go right back in the direction of

1577
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: a title.

1578
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: I understand, but let's say that they went with Dary.

1579
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: You sure, I mean, who the fucking else what they're

1580
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: gonna don't I don't know what they're gonna do, but.

1581
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: All right, well, Luke, let me ask you what they're

1582
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: gonna do at one, four or five, because it would

1583
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: seem oh, just take the interim title holder. Yaya Rodriguez

1584
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: would just stop josh Emmett and put him against Volkanovsky

1585
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: in a fight that's fricking amazing. Yeah. Heir though, was

1586
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: on the MMA Hour asked if he's heard anything from

1587
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: the UFC matchmakers. His response was nothing. I think it's

1588
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: just too soon to hear something like that. But whatever,

1589
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if he decides not

1590
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: to defend the title, that would make me the undisputed champion.

1591
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: Why because I'm going to defend that belt against somebody else,

1592
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 2: and what's gonna happen. I'm going to be the undisputed

1593
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: champion if he decides to come and fight at forty

1594
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: five again, and this is obviously Volkovsky's talking about, then

1595
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: whoever wins that fight will be understed. So regardless of

1596
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: the situation, blah blah blah. I don't think there's a

1597
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: debate here, Luke. Yeah, you're Rodriguez versus Volkovski, for the

1598
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: featherway tells one of the best fights you can make

1599
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: in this entire sport. What's the question here that that

1600
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: Volkanovsky would say to himself, Hey, why don't I just

1601
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: campaign full time at fifty five to avoid that guy. No,

1602
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: that's not what vulk does.

1603
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: Luke, No, not at all. I don't understand what was

1604
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: this In response to that, he said this.

1605
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: When Ariel asked him, has anyone reached out to you

1606
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: about making a Volkanovski fight now that you're the interim champion.

1607
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna make that. I don't think that they're planning.

1608
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: We've talked about it before.

1609
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 3: I don't think they're planning right now, certainly to do

1610
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: Markachev volkto right away. They're planning to do that. I

1611
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: guess they just haven't gotten around to it. But that's

1612
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 3: the fight, dude. I am so surprised that people are

1613
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: like not interested in this fight. That fight is like

1614
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: one of the I'll say this, certainly, what's the most

1615
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 3: important rivalry in Volkanovsky's career? And it's got to be Holloway.

1616
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 3: I mean, the answer is Holloway by million miles.

1617
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: But that's over. That's over right now, right They're done

1618
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: three fights volkane them all. It's over.

1619
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: If you're asking me beyond that, like, what are going

1620
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,520
Speaker 3: to be some of the more defining fights of Volkanovsky's

1621
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: career win or lose it is Yayi Rodriguez. This version

1622
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 3: of Yayir is insanely dangerous and capable of beating absolutely

1623
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: anyone at one five on the right night. And I

1624
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: don't see how anyone who's actually watched the tape and

1625
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: is thinking rationally can disagree with that that at a

1626
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 3: bare minimum, does he have a real shot at beating Volkanovsky? Yes,

1627
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: he fucking does. Many That is super exciting to watch

1628
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: that one. You get through that one, man, and you

1629
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: have really done something special at one forty five.

1630
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: Make okay, where Luke Thomas stands right now on February

1631
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: twenty fourth of twenty three, Where does Vulk versus Yayr

1632
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: fit in your ranking of like UFC fights that I

1633
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: would get the I'd get the biggest direction for like

1634
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: I would just be fired as up as l for this.

1635
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bare minimum top five, bear probably three.

1636
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: Luke, this is the top like two or three at worst?

1637
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, top three, top three, top three, Yeah, top three.

1638
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's one of the best fights they can make.

1639
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: Right to ask yourself a question, title shot or otherwise. Yeah,

1640
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: some of the best, not my biggest, Right, We're not

1641
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 3: talking box office, We're just talking if you're a real

1642
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 3: deal fight fan, what are some of the best fights

1643
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: UFC can make today? And Volkanovski versus Yair, you could

1644
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: take the title away. Whatever, It's still top three period,

1645
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: of all the best fights they can make. It's that

1646
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 3: good and it arguably has a case for number one.

1647
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: So this whole shit about like I would rather see

1648
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 3: him fight Makachev again.

1649
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it.

1650
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: That's not in any way a bad idea, but holy shit,

1651
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: you can make this one, and you should make this

1652
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 3: one so that we don't have an interim title floating

1653
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: around anymore, to say nothing of the fact that it's

1654
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 3: gonna be insane in bonkers, like, let's do that.

1655
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's see what that looks like, and then we're

1656
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: going to go to something else after that.

1657
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, you know how I picked Jasmine Jazz Davicius

1658
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: for the upset win this week. She was down to

1659
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: att training with Joanna for a few weeks and was

1660
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: constantly iging about that that's gonna be the.

1661
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: Difference in this fight.

1662
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to know that, by the way

1663
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: you want a champion, she's staying fit enough and working

1664
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: out enough where I still feel like she's gonna she's

1665
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: gonna try to answer that phone one more time. I

1666
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: do I still feel like it, like if they needed

1667
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: a opponent in a pinch for a title fight or

1668
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: something a cute you know, do you think so, Luke?

1669
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: I mean she I think she wants it one more time.

1670
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably because they all come back, right, don't they

1671
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: all just come back for one more round, one more time,

1672
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: one more, you know, one more, one more, once more

1673
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: into the breach, you know that kind of thing.

1674
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, you're probably right, You're.

1675
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: Probably all right. Topic number four, Luke actually indirectly connects

1676
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: with another former Women's MMA legend there or a legend forever.

1677
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: You can't be a next legend in MMA, Luke, And

1678
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: that's Ronda Rousey. Here's the news. Proposed in the state

1679
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: of California. Uh, the legislator would set up a pension

1680
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: fund for former MMA fighters who have a certain number

1681
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: of fights in the state legislation, I'm sorry, who have

1682
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 2: a certain number of fights. And the state legislation was introduced.

1683
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: Who wrote this, Luke? Who wrote this paragraph? Mike can

1684
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: is that you? This is I don't know what this says?

1685
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: Is it just gibberings.

1686
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. Matt Haney, a Democrat from San Francisco,

1687
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: introduced this in the state Assembly on February fifteenth. He

1688
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: said it hopes it'll pass. Ronda Rousey's name is linked

1689
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: with this as she's a huge proponent. She was interviewed

1690
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: by Mark ray Monday of ESPN yesterday about it. It's

1691
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: a pension fund for retired boxers in California already exists,

1692
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 2: the only such fund of its kind in the US.

1693
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: How about California being progressive here in areas, Luke, that

1694
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: we talk about a lot, right.

1695
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1696
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 3: The guy who, let's be very clear, is not just California.

1697
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: It's Andy Foster. Andy Foster is a very we bag

1698
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 3: on regulators all the time, and he's made mistakes, right,

1699
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, the third five between Chuck and Tito should

1700
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 3: not have happened, and he botched it. But in general,

1701
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 3: in general, I really trust Andy Foster to do a

1702
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: great job, and California is the biggest and I think

1703
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: best commission in the country.

1704
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: Could be heard on the Assembly floor, including according to

1705
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: Raymundi's ESPN story, as early as March eighteenth. Excuse me,

1706
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: Luke Rowsey would say you have a much shorter window.

1707
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: This is in Mark's interview in MMA, because your body

1708
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: takes so much more of a heavier toll. And the

1709
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: difference with these kind of combat sports, with all the

1710
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: contact and neurological injuries involved, you don't know the day

1711
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: that you're taking you've taken one hit too many, You're

1712
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna find out that you crossed the threshold many decades

1713
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: later when you no longer have that income. Look, I'm

1714
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: if that bill passes, by the way, one dollar from

1715
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: each ticket sold at MMA events in the state of

1716
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: California will go into this pension fund. Checks will then

1717
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: be cut annually to retired fighters aged fifty or older

1718
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: who have had a certain number of pro fights in California,

1719
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: and the criteria for those eligible would be roughly thirteen

1720
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: fights on California soil. I don't know, though, Luke, if

1721
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 2: that means if you fought at the Tachi Palace on

1722
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: Native of American ground, if that counts as California. Because

1723
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: remember they were willing to go. They went to bat

1724
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: for Dana Luke, and then he then he stood down

1725
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: and he never remember he promised that they would get

1726
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,879
Speaker 2: something huge. They ain't got shit, dude.

1727
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: Okay, because someone at Disney was like, we're just gonna

1728
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: move on from this. Thank you, thank you for that.

1729
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 3: But media, please see b see one more time on this,

1730
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 3: just so folks know, like, what kind of compensation does

1731
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 3: this actually look like? When you get a check? Right

1732
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: if you're eligible for this, what does it look like?

1733
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,839
Speaker 3: And the answer is, according to Foster Andy Foster's disclosure

1734
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 3: at ESPN, the Boxing pension program. So this is the

1735
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 3: one that's that they're proposing an MM one modeled off

1736
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 3: the existing Boxing one. It currently has sent out one

1737
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy one checks since twenty twelve, with each

1738
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: check averaging nineteen thousand. Now, nineteen thousand is not chump change.

1739
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: You can actually do a little bit with nineteen thousand.

1740
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 3: That's a that's a you could buy a car with that,

1741
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: you could put a deposit on a home, pay off

1742
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: some credit card debt. You can do a fair amount

1743
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 3: with nineteen grand. It's not a game changer, but it

1744
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 3: is valuable. So there's just one thing though that I

1745
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 3: want folks to note. I actually like this program and

1746
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I think it's great and we should do more of it,

1747
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: but we should also be honest that like, well, if

1748
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: you know, the average check being nineteen thousand is a

1749
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 3: good check. That's not enough for a family of four

1750
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 3: to live off of for a year, right, not in

1751
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: the United States. Certainly, it's just not enough money to

1752
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 3: get you very, very far. So depending on your situation,

1753
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 3: that nineteen thousand could either be quite valuable or really

1754
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 3: not much at all. And we should be understanding that

1755
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 3: these are in that sense, relatively speaking modest.

1756
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: Sums.

1757
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, you gotta fight thirteen times in

1758
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: California to be eligible. This isn't a perfect system, but

1759
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 2: at least it's something to start the momentum.

1760
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but this is why we should have some

1761
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: limited expectations about it. And I've seen will be like, oh,

1762
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: we should see something like this in every state, but

1763
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: that doesn't do you any good. California is highly unique

1764
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: among even like Nevada and other commissions. It gets more

1765
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: MMA shows per week, per month, per year than any

1766
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 3: other state. In fact, you could add up most of

1767
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 3: the states combined don't do what California does in an

1768
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: annual year. Right, and then boxing and anime they do

1769
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: hundreds and thousands of events, so they by the way

1770
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: that makes them less able to be manipulated by any

1771
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: kind of promoter who wants to be like, well, we're

1772
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: the big dogs around here. No one is bigger than

1773
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: the Commission in California. No one promoter certainly is. I

1774
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: would argue UFC is in many ways kind of bigger

1775
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: than the Nevada Commission, and so you have that kind

1776
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: of hand and glove treatment there.

1777
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: They're different than that.

1778
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: But also the point being is they can set up

1779
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 3: a system where they can tax a small amount per event,

1780
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 3: save it towards something useful, and then spend on it.

1781
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 3: Other states simply cannot. They don't have the turnstile churning

1782
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: in that way. In terms of the number of events

1783
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 3: that they can tax people on. It doesn't exist, Like

1784
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 3: how many events are in Tennessee, how many events are

1785
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 3: in Alabama?

1786
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: How many events are in Montana?

1787
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: Where you could reasonably do something like this, hardly any

1788
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 3: relatively speaking, compared to what California does. So I like

1789
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 3: what California's doing. It's helpful, it's good, two thumbs up

1790
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: for me. But this idea that like, oh, we could

1791
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: do this, scale it across fifty states and we could

1792
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: solve you know, fighter pay or post career problems.

1793
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: No, you can't. You cannot do that at all. This

1794
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: is a very unique.

1795
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: Program specific to the very unique realities of the California

1796
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: combat sports economy. Oh we lost BC, Luke takeover. Okay,

1797
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 3: BC will be back here in just a moment. So

1798
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 3: just wants some folks to understand what the reality was

1799
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: about California. California is a great commission. Again, not a

1800
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 3: perfect one, but a great one. They do great work.

1801
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 3: This is a great program, at least in theory. And

1802
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: by the way, whether or not should it be thirteen fights,

1803
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 3: ten fights, fifteen, I don't know what the right answer

1804
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: there is. And I don't know how they came up

1805
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: with that number to get that. I don't really understand

1806
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: how the math came up there. So some questioning about

1807
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: that I think is in order. And that's fine, and

1808
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 3: we could look at that. Oh, by the way, we

1809
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: lost BC lost internet at his house. Well that's bad,

1810
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 3: that's real bad. Mikey, keep you updated on whether we're

1811
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: gonna keep going, because if BC lost internet, then this

1812
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: is this is the end of the run, folks, this

1813
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 3: is what it's gonna be for today, all right, let's

1814
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 3: see where he left off on the rundown here very quickly,

1815
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 3: and yes, we asked about Islav oh the proposed bill.

1816
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: Let's do this, Mikey. Let's jump to topic number five

1817
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: if we can so. A boxing promoter who went by

1818
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 3: the name or goes by the name Tolia Sulayana. I've

1819
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 3: posted a screenshot of messages online related to in Ghanu debate,

1820
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: excuse me and Ganu debut fee, So let's pull Can.

1821
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: You go full screen on that, Mikey for just a

1822
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: second if you can.

1823
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: Let's see there's Ali Abdelazi's on. He loves what's that?

1824
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: By the way, Hello, here's my friend. I don't manage him. Yes,

1825
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: I know you guys are friends. He wants to make

1826
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 3: thirty million and Ghanu wants to make thirty million from

1827
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: one fight. Yes, and a promoter Anatoly Suliyanov wants to

1828
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: create an intersection where MMA and boxing worlds meet and

1829
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: find a way to get it.

1830
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell's back. I believe we can pull him in

1831
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: whatever we want. There he is Heylo.

1832
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: I lost power quickly, Luke, but I'm back with it.

1833
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: I'm back.

1834
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: Okay, let's bang to Bacie.

1835
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 3: We're talking about in Ghanu wanting thirty million. According to

1836
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: some text messages from Ali abdel Aziz, by the way

1837
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 3: es yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

1838
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: Is this Ali trying to expose Francis and limit his

1839
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: possible abilities? Or is this him trying to become his manager?

1840
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: I can't figure it out.

1841
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1842
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: So Ali is to my understanding, not Francis's manager. But

1843
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 3: I know Ali is close to a lot of the

1844
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: extreme catur guys, right, so for example, he manages like

1845
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: Danny Gay and some other ones as well, And I

1846
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: know he's around Kamara.

1847
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Well Kamar is not an extreme.

1848
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Catur no, but he's like he's tight with Francis o

1849
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: TI with Francis exactly.

1850
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 3: So this is my point, Like Ali, if you ever, like,

1851
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: for example, if you ever see like any behind the

1852
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 3: scenes with Francis or even Eric Nixon, they just run

1853
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: into Ali all the time. There's just so much overlap

1854
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: between whatever business he does at Extreme Catuur and then

1855
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: Francis wort of being there as well. So I think

1856
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 3: maybe he listen, who the hell knows? You have to

1857
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: ask Francis, did Francis ask for him to do this?

1858
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: Did you do this unsolicitedly, like what's the context here?

1859
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 3: But I think the bigger issue is, right, like, is

1860
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: it true that Francis wants thirty million? And if he does,

1861
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 3: could he get it?

1862
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: Dude?

1863
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 3: I think if he took a fight to Saudi Arabia,

1864
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 3: yeah he probably we could get it, right.

1865
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, I watched the full press conference of the

1866
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: Jake Paul Tommy Fury from yesterday, and you know, there

1867
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: was a lot of fluff in that right, Like, you know,

1868
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: they had Mike Tyson and Devin Haney on and did

1869
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: like a round table to start it talking about the

1870
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: future of both boxing and Saudi boxing. They had the

1871
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: promote the local Saudi promoters who were you know, connected

1872
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 2: with the government and and look, there's always going to

1873
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 2: be an idea of you know, sports washing and all that,

1874
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, but it comes up anytime WW or big

1875
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: time boxing goes to Saudi or even UFC in certain

1876
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: areas in the Middle East. But there's a lot of

1877
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: money there in boxing and they want to become a serious,

1878
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: serious player. I mean, that's why Anthony Joshua got a

1879
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: seventy five million dollar up front fee to fight Andy

1880
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 2: Ruiz there in their rematch seventy five million, Luke, seventy

1881
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: five million. We're gonna pay you seventy five million to

1882
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: box here instead of you know, Wembley Stadium in front

1883
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: of ninety eight thousand plus. So could Francis get thirty

1884
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: in some type of Deontay Wilder Tyson Fury. Yeah, hell yeah,

1885
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: he could, dude.

1886
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1887
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 3: So, I mean, we'll have to see what happens here.

1888
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: But Francis wanting thirty million, And this is the most

1889
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: amazing part. It's like, dude, what were the UFC going

1890
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: to offer him? Like around ten MILLI fight, probably add

1891
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 3: another a million or two on top from pay per

1892
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 3: view something like that. So let's say around eleven or

1893
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 3: twelve million, you know, a thirty million. You could get

1894
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: almost three x that in one fight, plus whatever sponsorship

1895
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 3: he gets for that one, and wherever else he can

1896
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 3: negotiate into the contract he could. He could arguably make

1897
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,799
Speaker 3: in one fight what he would get in three fights

1898
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 3: on a UFC contract, which is a full year plus.

1899
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: That's insane, that's insane if he could pull that off.

1900
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked a lot about Francis's decision to

1901
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: not resign with UFC or even really go down that

1902
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: negotiation road once. They were like, we're not budging and

1903
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: a lot of it. You know, we were talking about virtues,

1904
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: and you know, I feel like he didn't do it

1905
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: for the money. I really did. I feel like he

1906
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: did it for principle. Obviously, it helps when he knows

1907
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: you've got chances to make big money elsewhere. But if

1908
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 2: he accepts like this type of crazy life changing money,

1909
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: which is good for him forgetting it, would would you

1910
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Speaker 2: think it all? That would counter that argument? Like, like,

1911
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: how much of his decision at the end of the day,

1912
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Speaker 2: even though I'm taking the romanticized virtuous You know, man

1913
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: Francis stood up when nobody else is willing to. And

1914
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: I do believe that. But dude, if he gets thirty

1915
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Speaker 2: million here to box, like, like you said, that's his

1916
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: whole that's more than he can make in his tire

1917
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: UFC career, Like that's forget life changing, forget what you

1918
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: can do with that type of money. Would you then

1919
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: come out and say, look, the decision was about money.

1920
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Speaker 1: Not necessarily No, right, I agree with you.

1921
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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

1922
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Speaker 1: I'm actually because you know, we want.

1923
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Speaker 2: To be to be pure. But I think he is pure.

1924
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Speaker 2: I think he is Luke.

1925
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Speaker 1: Well, here's the other part too.

1926
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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, I mean he even said, it's not

1927
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Speaker 3: like the UFC didn't offer me a ton of money.

1928
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Speaker 3: It's with the other parts. The idea would be, it's

1929
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: gonna be any boxing promoter he goes with is not

1930
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: going to have the money to do health insurance. So

1931
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 3: that's really not on the table anyway, right. The point

1932
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: being is the UFC has such vast resources and such

1933
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 3: control over the industry that they are now actually on

1934
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Speaker 3: the hook by virtue of that. These boxing promoters.

1935
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Speaker 1: Can't do that.

1936
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Speaker 3: But more to the point, it wouldn't just be that

1937
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: he would get a giant sum of money with a

1938
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: check post fight.

1939
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Speaker 1: It would be that, as the fifty to fifty.

1940
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: Guy on this right, he would have an extraordinary amount

1941
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 3: of control and leverage to define the terms of how

1942
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 3: the fight was promoted, and what a press store is

1943
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 3: going to look like, and what cities he goes in,

1944
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 3: and who's gonna people don't realize this bc true or false.

1945
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: If you're powerful enough in boxing, you can even pick

1946
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 3: to an extent anyway, the commentary crew on your fights.

1947
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 3: That actually is a thing we have seen before yeah,

1948
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: right to a degree.

1949
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on the relationship, but yeah.

1950
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, the power of the A

1951
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 3: side in any of these contests, even the B side,

1952
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 3: if it's a big enough fight, is vast. In the

1953
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: tentacles go all the way through fight week, the contracts,

1954
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 3: pay sponsor, who's on TV, who's not, blah blah blah,

1955
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: all is It's so overwhelmingly controllable when you have a

1956
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 3: more open ended system, And so I think that's what

1957
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 3: the Listen, how many of these guys have we talked

1958
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 3: to who have been part of the whole Jack Paul process.

1959
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 3: They like to check and everything, but more than that,

1960
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 3: they just like having an Even Jake has most of

1961
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the say, but even relative to that, they still had

1962
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: a lot of say. They were like, oh my god,

1963
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 3: this feels refreshing to have this kind of input and control.

1964
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 3: I think more it's just that they just want to

1965
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 3: have say and it seems so basic, but it turns

1966
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: out it's a rather profound need.

1967
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, look, I've got an interesting quote to share with

1968
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: you here if you're ready for me, do you remember

1969
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: And I know this because Mike Bone just tweeted out

1970
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 2: this potential hypocrisy here. According to Michaehon's tweeting, this is

1971
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 2: so yeh. Five weeks ago, John Jones was quoted as saying,

1972
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm happy for Francis. I'm glad that Francis knows is worth.

1973
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: No man has a right to shame another man for

1974
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: fighting for his worth. End quote. But as you mentioned

1975
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: this week, John actually was on a podcast. He was

1976
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: with RMC sport and he was interviewed. Here's John's new

1977
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 2: quote on Francis. Francis had the opportunity to face me,

1978
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 2: and he opted out of the opportunity. If anyone should

1979
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: be criticized, it's Francis and Ganu. If I'm correct, he

1980
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: was offered the biggest contract in heavyweight history. He had

1981
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be a guy to dethrone me. He

1982
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: didn't believe in himself. Francis didn't believe in himself. He

1983
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: wasn't willing to gambell on himself.

1984
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Yours just total contradiction. I mean, this is this is

1985
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: this is fucking John right.

1986
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: This is what he does.

1987
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what he does. Dude. Sometimes he wants

1988
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: to be the hero, and then sometimes he just.

1989
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 3: Wants to be and indulge his own you know, I'm

1990
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 3: better than you feelings about the world, Like he just

1991
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 3: can't do can't do one or the other, he has

1992
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 3: to do both.

1993
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: And here you get it. This is I mean, this

1994
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: is classic John Jones. This is what I mean. Like

1995
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: he's turned over a new leaf. He's a new guy.

1996
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: You're sure about that.

1997
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Like, I actually think Francis, even if he gets you know,

1998
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: thirty million in some big boxing match, may end up

1999
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: signing with pfl or Bellatort, you know, and we'll keep fighting,

2000
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 2: because that's who he is. But look, if he only

2001
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: took one more combat sports fight and with some hybrid

2002
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: boxing thing and win or lose spectacularly, he walked away

2003
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 2: with that thirty million, even though I just tried to

2004
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: paint him as this virtuous sky, which I think he

2005
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: actually is. Isn't that betting on yourself, gambling and winning.

2006
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: That's kind of kind of is at the end of

2007
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: the day. So I mean, look, dude, I want to

2008
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: see John Jones and Gonho's so bad? Is there a

2009
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: reality Luke Thomas where Francis and Gan who makes a

2010
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: shit ton of money in a boxing match this calendar

2011
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: year and some hybrid or not, and then he looks

2012
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: at his free agent offers from across the board, but

2013
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: calls back up danaon Hunter and says, just so you know,

2014
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: I'm willing to fight John for the heavyweight title if

2015
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: he has it. At that point, can we still have

2016
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 2: our cake and eat it too here?

2017
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 3: Yes, if the UFC reasonably thinks that they could make

2018
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 3: a ton of money off of that, and he already

2019
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,560
Speaker 3: got you know, there's like a there's not like a

2020
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: great option for him in terms of, you know, a

2021
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 3: big fight that they can make the boxing side. Yeah,

2022
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's very on the table.

2023
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 2: Sure, dude, that would be That would be awesome because

2024
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 2: then that would show you that somebody can exercise their

2025
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 2: freedom to get the type of opportunity, payday and respect

2026
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: that they were looking for. Still was able to fill

2027
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: the headlines with the kind of things you hope fighters

2028
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 2: will talk about, the lack of care, all that stuff,

2029
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 2: and then was still able to come back on his

2030
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 2: own terms. If that was possible, Luke, I said it before,

2031
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. By bringing somebody back in that

2032
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: you had issue with for the sake of business for

2033
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,879
Speaker 2: your fans, that's a Vince McMahon move. It's the greatest

2034
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: part of Vince's very mixed legacy, right, is that he's

2035
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: always willing. Now you can say it's greedy, but he's

2036
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: always wanted to put the business first for the audience.

2037
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Do you know we're seeing more and more of grudges here,

2038
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: grudges here. We don't talk about this guy anymore. I

2039
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 2: think the best thing Dana could do for his legacy

2040
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: is always put that grudge shit aside, you know, and

2041
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: and if the fights available, make it. Let's see, let's

2042
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 2: see moving forward, you know right in here. Okay, that's

2043
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: what we got. Look before we get into our closing

2044
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 2: segment on Fridays, which is dead wrong, our producer Mikey

2045
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: found this interesting clip from Donald Cowboys Serrooni that may

2046
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: apply to your life moving forward. Let's hear from this piece.

2047
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the.

2048
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 4: Acting side, Like I said, you got the look, if

2049
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 4: you got the skill. Now I got the steroids and

2050
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,719
Speaker 4: put the size on. If I'd walk around one seventy

2051
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 4: two one seventy three was using my weight, I'd be

2052
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 4: all the time. I go buy all new clothes, pants, underwear.

2053
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: Holy fuck. Yeah, he just you got a bigger dick. Yeah,

2054
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: a huger dick.

2055
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 4: He's just fucking Alex was injecting the steroids.

2056
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

2057
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 4: I didn't didn't read it right in your dick. Yeah yeah,

2058
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 4: put it right in your dick, or didn't say that

2059
01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 4: on them.

2060
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: But I just tried it and work.

2061
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: I think that's a good approach.

2062
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have done about that.

2063
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: When are you gonna just, I mean, stop talking about

2064
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: it and be about it? What is going to stop

2065
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: you from trt or just straight ryding with Pacer Allen?

2066
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: You heard cowboy dad, Dude, he's got a he's got

2067
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 2: more girl masked on that cast Luke.

2068
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, yeah, it doesn't do that, uh,

2069
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 3: from well anything I've read about steroids.

2070
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: But soon, BC, the answer is soon. I've been talking

2071
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know, man, I'm just the thing

2072
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: is listening. BC.

2073
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: It's once you get on it, man getting off. I've

2074
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 3: seen people get off of it and it's not easy.

2075
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: And uh, are you talking.

2076
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 2: About the Jones osp fight? Is that what you're referencing.

2077
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking I'm talking about vaping, talking about vaping.

2078
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 2: Oh, vaping. See, I'm talking about you injecting directly in

2079
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: the piece like cowboy said, and just going for it,

2080
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean just going for it.

2081
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I'm the answer is inevitably,

2082
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: but it's just not right now.

2083
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: I feel like, if this show's still a lot, what

2084
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 2: are the odds at this show Morning Combat with Brian

2085
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 2: Campbell and Luke Thomas not in that order, is still

2086
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: on the air in five years? Because look look at

2087
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: PTI did they expect to still be on the air.

2088
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: Will what's the what's the percentage chance that we still

2089
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: are in five years?

2090
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty?

2091
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's decent, right, that's actually pretty damn good. Like

2092
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: what shows stay together that long? Not many? In five years?

2093
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: What's the percentage that Luke Thomas will still be talking about?

2094
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I should maybe I should get TRT

2095
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 2: dude twenty.

2096
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: Thirteen or not, so I be forty eight by that point. Yeah,

2097
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: that batter. That's a little different. That's a little different there.

2098
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 2: Yet you're well in the vape and you're create I'm curious,

2099
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: and you.

2100
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 3: Know, Cram dude, I'm there's no denying I'm TRT curious.

2101
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm super TRT curious. But I just haven't

2102
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 3: haven't I haven't I haven't done it yet.

2103
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 2: Pirates are curious too be a pirate. Luke inject that shit.

2104
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Okay, right, what does that mean?

2105
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a new study out there that a certain

2106
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 2: podcast just believe that a large percentage of pirates historically

2107
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: have been homosexual.

2108
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, cool, you know, all right, I

2109
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but I just know that. Uh listen,

2110
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. But you gotta wait your turn.

2111
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: All right, here's our turn to take the l Luke.

2112
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: If they've got receipts to back it up, we give

2113
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 2: you the opportunity with morning Coombat at gmail dot com

2114
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 2: the email address that houses one man at the end

2115
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 2: of that tunnel. It ain't Luke or BC. It's Mikey Morms.

2116
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 2: But you better come correct, You better come original with

2117
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 2: time stamps improved.

2118
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: You better was it all imitators, all haters, whatever it is,

2119
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 1: come origina.

2120
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 2: All content creators, come over. I don't know something like that.

2121
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: You better have the proof that we was dead.

2122
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

2123
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Yes, we have angry mail.

2124
01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 3: Seven different levels to devil worshiping, horse sticks, human secrifices, cannibalism, candles,

2125
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: and next animals having sex with him Camel's Mambles and

2126
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 3: Rabbits Blood.

2127
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't get into that. I kicked that you never

2128
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: heard that song BC.

2129
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Only from you, Luke, I'm big meat. Call me Larry Hoover,

2130
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: you know, like that's all I ever get from.

2131
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: You is well, you've never heard biggie song dead wrong

2132
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: with Eminem?

2133
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I remember that happening, but I don't

2134
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: have the lyrics like like I have most other things, Luke,

2135
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: which is right?

2136
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: I was? I was.

2137
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 3: I was so waiting for you to be like, oh,

2138
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: I remembered Eminem's lyrics because he was white. I was

2139
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 3: waiting for you to say that, Yes, I.

2140
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: Was waiting, Luke, like Eminem, I am whatever you say

2141
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: I am, which is white and washed. Okay, So you

2142
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: know if I wasn't, Luke, and why would you say

2143
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 2: I am? Hey, Edgar is here. Let's see you took

2144
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: a lot of l's last Friday. Luke, I'm hoping it continues.

2145
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: I did not look at this.

2146
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I certain I certainly got hit with the barrage of els.

2147
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Edgar says on episode four ten while discussing BC's

2148
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: favorite football player, Jai here bulscenario. Luke Thomas Oh boy.

2149
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like I'm about to

2150
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: take an out. But I like how he gave you

2151
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: one on the road. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2152
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 2: I didn't call him mbope or en vaping or something

2153
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 2: like that. I call yeah whatever. Luke Thomas claim that

2154
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Brazil was the world's fifth largest economy.

2155
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: I employ you. This is not true. Yeah, it's not true.

2156
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 2: I employ you to put some respect on your country

2157
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 2: of birth. That is, in fact, India, which can claim

2158
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 2: that title. Brazil is only twelve. Their former president sleeps

2159
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 2: in a Minions themed bedroom and Josey all those house

2160
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,879
Speaker 2: You should know this regards. It's Edgar Wow, someone else, someone.

2161
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 3: Else actually wrote me about that, so I had to

2162
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 3: double check they were right. I will take that out.

2163
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, you're about to get served again.

2164
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: Here.

2165
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,919
Speaker 2: This is Jack from Melbourne. You know that you know Melbourne?

2166
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Right?

2167
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 2: They got strong coffee hard from Melbourne. I try to

2168
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 2: do I try to speak it like the locals. Do

2169
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 2: you know how you do for Colombians and no one else, Luke.

2170
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: I try to get it exactly right.

2171
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just teasing. I don't you know.

2172
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 2: The way we filmed the pregame preview the other day

2173
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: and you're just like left and right Alexa. So I'm like,

2174
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: you don't learn you know, Ronda ROUSI, you don't learn

2175
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:05,919
Speaker 2: a thing, Luke. If they're not Colombian.

2176
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Come on, it's fair that l too.

2177
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: All right, look at this, Look at this vulnerability transparency

2178
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 2: from Luke. This is a great future. All right, Jack said,

2179
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 2: you do in life, you better you better be willing

2180
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 2: to straddle the l Okay, all right, love the London

2181
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: Live show, Jack says, Now both of you must have

2182
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: been flying high on Delta eight's well doing room service

2183
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 2: diaries with Arnold Allen. You know, look that that may

2184
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 2: that may have been true. I'm not can't confirm or deny.

2185
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Because you I could say that I was not.

2186
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: You both said you don't recall a fighter with the

2187
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: nickname Mowgli, which of course is what Arnold Allen said

2188
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 2: that they called through growing up. Yeah, now, how could

2189
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: you guys forget the hardest kicker for a ka Gabriel

2190
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Mowgli Benitez. I know it's a little pedantic, but I

2191
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: can't pass up an opportunity like this. Love your work, guys,

2192
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 2: you need to do a live show in Australia and

2193
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 2: you'll see how many of those tickets would sell out

2194
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 2: in minutes, if not seconds.

2195
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 1: Wow. U K, they're calling you out, you dude, I got.

2196
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 2: I got many tweets from bronzead are saying the same

2197
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 2: thing about Toronto as everybody. People are just like, yo,

2198
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: come to our area. We'll treat you even better. Dude,

2199
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 2: you can't treat It's great, all right.

2200
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 3: I say, I don't have a single complain about the

2201
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 3: way that you k treated us. But if it's even better,

2202
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: let's let's go to Let's go to Perth.

2203
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: Dude.

2204
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about Big Chicken and Marietta though, I'm

2205
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: still willing.

2206
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: I know you.

2207
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: Where's the camera? Put the camera on me?

2208
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 1: All right, put the camera on me, Mikey the camera ready.

2209
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm never going to Marriette again ever.

2210
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: Wow, come on, Russell doesn't deserve that. Wow. All right, Yeah, Luke,

2211
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 2: I'll take the L on that one. I didn't know

2212
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 2: that Gabriel Benica's had that nickname.

2213
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: I didn't. I forgot. I forgot the time, So I'll

2214
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: take an el too.

2215
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the L. All right. Uh, let's do

2216
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: this here. This is uh from Hurricane aug the awesome

2217
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: Augur himself at.

2218
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: About aug Yeah, Augustine.

2219
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 2: August and nothing after apparently is his name. At about

2220
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 2: two O six thirty five of episode four three, Luke

2221
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 2: claimed that his Washington Nationals beat the Houston Astros in

2222
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 2: the World Series the year in which they employed their

2223
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: infamous electric electronic signs stealing trash can banging system. Well

2224
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:22,799
Speaker 2: sounds sounds spicy.

2225
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: This is your either before or after right.

2226
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: This is my second attempt to get this on the

2227
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 2: show after I included a lengthy Astros were scapegoaded truther

2228
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 2: rant which I wholeheartedly stand by the cheated like whores.

2229
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 2: So to make sure Luke's bitch ass gets corrected, I'll

2230
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: keep this brief. This is really what he wrote. LT

2231
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: may be misremembering because of the news of the scandal

2232
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: broke and the investigation took place shortly after the Nats

2233
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: beat the Astros in twenty nineteen, but in reality, the

2234
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 2: sign stealing took place in twenty seventeen, when they took

2235
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 2: out the Red Sox and Yankees in route to defeating

2236
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: the Dodgers in the World World Series. According to the

2237
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 2: MLB investigation, the Astros scrapped their system during twenty eighteen

2238
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 2: due to ineffectiveness long before they met the Nats in

2239
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: the World Series on that hard fought and their three

2240
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 2: subsequent last place finishes in the NL East. Wow, and Luke,

2241
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: even though you are bitch, I hope one day you

2242
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 2: get your escalade with the spree Wells spinning.

2243
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,839
Speaker 1: Dude, I want that car stop rims keep spinning.

2244
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, did you did you ever consider buying those

2245
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 2: Spreewell shoes with the spinners? It's pretty inventive.

2246
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 3: I've never seen the spree Wells on the shoes. I've

2247
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 3: never seen that.

2248
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 2: They if you had an East Bay catalog in nineteen

2249
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: ninety seven locac BC.

2250
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 3: How is it that all of these basketball podcasts and

2251
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 3: we love them? I watched JJ Reddick's Old Man in

2252
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 3: the three. I watch obviously all the spoke How have

2253
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 3: they not interviewed or maybe I missed it? Have they

2254
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 3: interviewed Latrell spree Well, Because dude, back in the day,

2255
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 3: like Peak spree Well, Peak spree Well was just not a.

2256
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: You fucked with on the court, right I remember him?

2257
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, it's like his second year in the league

2258
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 2: with the Warriors in nineteen ninety four, which was also

2259
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 2: the one year that they had Chris Weber as a rookie.

2260
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Remember they played the Suns in the playoffs and Weber

2261
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 2: went around the back and dunked on Barkley and then

2262
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Duck Barkley scored fifty six in the next game. Spreewell

2263
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 2: was first team All NBA that year. People forget that,

2264
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 2: replacing who Michael Jordan who sat out the year. You know,

2265
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 2: it could have been Mitch Richmond, it could have been anyone.

2266
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 2: It was Treul Spreewall who was first team All NBA's

2267
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: second year in the league. But Luke that team fell apart.

2268
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 2: He was then a big time scorer on a shitty team,

2269
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: and then he chok the ship out of PJ. Carlssimo.

2270
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 2: So his his, you know, his legacy and financials changed

2271
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 2: pretty aggressively. But you're talk we're talking about mak mudabdul Rauf.

2272
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 2: How about spreewell story. It's an interesting one to try

2273
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 2: to revisit, right.

2274
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, And also he was making shit tons of

2275
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 3: money in the two thousands with those Rims. Dude, he

2276
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 3: was killing the game.

2277
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 2: But dude, he was so good on the ninety nine Nicks,

2278
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 2: especially in Game five of the finals. I mean just

2279
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: just a restive and raw and high flying. I mean angry.

2280
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: He played angry, and I always love that look. I

2281
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: like people that do anything with a lot of passion.

2282
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 2: That's why I get the most mad at you when

2283
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 2: you try to end the show early. You know impassionately,

2284
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 2: but you think.

2285
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: It's a lack of passion. It's more a respect for

2286
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 1: less is more.

2287
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever heard of that theory.

2288
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 1: I'd have to see it proven too.

2289
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Really, you know what I mean at this point in

2290
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: my career, right, you know? I just yeah, Okay. Finally

2291
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 2: from Jordan, here's the l that I mentioned earlier. Aloha,

2292
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 2: Luke and b C. I have a dead wrong for BC.

2293
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: At fifty six minutes at episode four or nine, discussing BKFC,

2294
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: he suddenly goes from Lorenzo Hunt to Lamar Hunt, who

2295
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 2: died at least who did he did it at least

2296
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: twice in a minute. B See Lamar Hunt is the

2297
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 2: founder of the Kansas City Chiefs and the name on

2298
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Trophy. Probably a slip of the tongue,

2299
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 2: but I offer this up as an l for you

2300
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: to take Mahalo Jordan from Hawaii's Brother. I accept that.

2301
01:45:59,080 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I accept that.

2302
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Haunt, who's becoming my favorite BKFC fighter, luc him.

2303
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 1: Do you like him? Yeah?

2304
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Dude, he makes pro wrestling things happen constantly and then

2305
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 2: knocks people the hell out dramatically. He's a he's a

2306
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 2: he's a warrior, right. I got some favorite fighters over there,

2307
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 2: like Britain Hart Beltran Luke. You don't give her any respect?

2308
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Uh It's not that I don't. I just don't care.

2309
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, is that a all?

2310
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 3: Right?

2311
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to not care about things? I think

2312
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: I am right?

2313
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: You know?

2314
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2315
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do have your own Uh well, Mikey sending

2316
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 2: us links on where we can buy the Wow. They

2317
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 2: put the uh the spree Well spinners on eBay for

2318
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 2: six hundred and forty nine dollars.

2319
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 3: Right now, let me see those things. Hold on, let

2320
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 3: me take a look at him. Mikey, Can you do

2321
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 3: me a favor. Download a picture and then put it

2322
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 3: on the screen real quick. I want to test Mikey's

2323
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 3: produce our scales.

2324
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Download picture and then throw it on the screen

2325
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 1: because I want people to see what it looked like.

2326
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:55,759
Speaker 1: If you want to see a trend.

2327
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 2: Hasn't Mikey walk the tightrope enough? Considering his uh' levels

2328
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: luker higher than John Olerud's batting i'veverage in nuineteen ninety four.

2329
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, bro, they don't know.

2330
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: They don't know about the guy who wore the helmet

2331
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: on first base. They don't know they was a beast. Bro.

2332
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: He could play on the ninety nine Mets. He was.

2333
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: He was awesome, all right. I think Mikey's working it up.

2334
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 2: I think he's still show. I love Mikey. No, Mikey.

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01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: By the way, Mikey running these Friday shows solo. He's

2336
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 2: doing a fantastic job.

2337
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 1: He's got to look at this ship. Could you put

2338
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 1: us on screen in the not not weird way? I

2339
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: guess not.

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01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 3: Let's see if you can work it out here. What

2341
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 3: she got for is Mikey looks like now he's getting

2342
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 3: he's getting it. It's tough. It's tough to get. I mean, listen,

2343
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 3: it's a it's I call it an audible.

2344
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2345
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 3: You got you gotta, He says he can't have you

2346
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 3: guys scre I just throw up one more time. Throw

2347
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 3: it up one more time, dude, Look at that piece

2348
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 3: of ship.

2349
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I like that.

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01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 2: Look, that's actually pretty cool, Luke. Like this, I do

2351
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: kind of like that. I don't think this shit I got.

2352
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I've purchased many shitty basketball sneakers. A lot

2353
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 2: of them are still in my in my closet over here, Luke,

2354
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 2: and I wear them in the old Guy League. But uh,

2355
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 2: that's a decent model. Come on, No, it's decent.

2356
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 3: It's garbage, all right, all right, you're gonna be wearing

2357
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 3: some LA gear, so you just, you know, don't worry

2358
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 3: about it.

2359
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 2: I got clowned the other night because Mikey says the

2360
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 2: pump that would spin the spinner would break three days

2361
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 2: in Yeah. Probably. I mean, like a lot of great

2362
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: ideas were shitty sneakers and didn't really work out, Like

2363
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 2: any pump that wasn't made by Reebok. Those things always failed, Luke.

2364
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: Even though David Robinson force pumps, I had a little

2365
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: pump on the side, those never worked properly. I wouldn't know, personally, Luke,

2366
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 2: because back then I had to wear LA gear because

2367
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 2: finances were dipping down, and you know, I had to

2368
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: get made fun of a lot.

2369
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 3: But people forget the original shacks that were rebox shoes

2370
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 3: had that little cartridge that would come with it the

2371
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 3: car and you would pump the shoe, remember that.

2372
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you could keep like nudes on there

2373
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: and get private internet access to make sure nobody knows

2374
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 2: what you're looking at. Yeah, I know those days, Luke. Also,

2375
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 2: you know what I wore the other last week for hoops, Luke?

2376
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 2: I have these two thousand and eight Gilbert Arenas Agent

2377
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 2: zero Adidas shoes that are specific for the New Orleans

2378
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game that have all those like you know,

2379
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 2: Cajun type stuff on them. They're fantastic Cajun seasoning. Yeah, yeah,

2380
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 2: I got I still wear too, the the O two

2381
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 2: T mac Adidas ones, those like heavy dark blue ones,

2382
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 2: that's the that's the heaviest basketball shoe of all time. Dude,

2383
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 2: you can you cannot run end to end and those

2384
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: that's just ridiculous.

2385
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit it with that garlic pot of nah, hit

2386
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: it with that button. Nah?

2387
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 2: What do you are you speaking? What are you speaking?

2388
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Right now?

2389
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 3: There's this dude who's a Cajun chef on like Instagram

2390
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 3: and TikTok, and I forget his name, but he's got

2391
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: like the thickest fucking Creole Cajun accent you've ever heard

2392
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 3: of in your life. And so he just goes through

2393
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 3: the recipe as he's making, like chicken stir fry or

2394
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 3: whatever he's making. And every time he tells people, you

2395
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 3: can imagine BC.

2396
01:49:58,200 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: That every recipe has garlic powder in it.

2397
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 3: So every time he tells people to put garlic powder in,

2398
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 3: he says, put garlic powder in it now. But the

2399
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: way it comes off is hit it with that garlic potterer, Nah,

2400
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 3: hit it with that button.

2401
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Nah.

2402
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: They check this out, y'all. Every recipe is like that,

2403
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 3: every single one. But he makes fire ship, dude.

2404
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

2405
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 2: Look, I'm getting heckled pretty hard on Twitter for saying

2406
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 2: big meat instead of big meach.

2407
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's that's Rick Ross. That's actually a

2408
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 1: little different.

2409
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't care.

2410
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I you don't like to

2411
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: differentiate African Americans from one another.

2412
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, well, you know the other day I

2413
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 2: was singing a white lyric wrong and you got all

2414
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 2: mad at me. I was like a range angel down

2415
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,839
Speaker 2: the roads travel.

2416
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: But that's not even words. It's not carry an angel.

2417
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: It's curion.

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01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: Excuse me while I kissed this guy, Luke, you know

2419
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 2: a pirate? Yeah? I like what I like when you

2420
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 2: did it in a few times and have fun. Luke,

2421
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 2: it's great, what a great fry. We gave the people

2422
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: right two hours of passion, right passion. The thing about

2423
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: Rocky bl blah blah, Luke, he was passionate? Is shiit? Dude?

2424
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

2425
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't have my phone on me, but Mikey is saying.

2426
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 3: The guy I'm talking about, his TikTok name is stale Cracker.

2427
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 3: I did not know that stale crack. But dude, hitting

2428
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 3: with that gonic powder. Nah, telling you gets you, it

2429
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 3: gets you ready. He'll gets you ready for some Cajun food.

2430
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 2: Look, can you cook it all? I'm a horrible cook.

2431
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 2: Can you cook a little bit?

2432
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: So?

2433
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: I used to be able to cook a little bit,

2434
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 3: but I have just completely devolved into you know, chef

2435
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 3: Boyard dissel up and what you.

2436
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 2: Put that ring on. You don't have to press anybody anymore, Luke.

2437
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. But my wife's she cooks, but she's not She's

2438
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: not much better than me. We're both not great, all right?

2439
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: Does a Boela have anything where it's so good that

2440
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, Boila. I know it was a return

2441
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: to cook, but like, could you do that thing with

2442
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 2: that thing, because I just need.

2443
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 3: To like, you know, yeah, dude, so her dude. Uh

2444
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 3: actually my wife's pretay good at this too. But they

2445
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 3: make a rapist from scratch.

2446
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 1: That are next level, next level wow wow.

2447
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: And they make they make good Columbian dishes like they

2448
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 3: make good ayako, they make good stuff like that.

2449
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: So they're really good at that.

2450
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: Weinstein had scratches in his rapis too, but those were

2451
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 2: different kinds right there in that regard.

2452
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: All right, all right, well that's that's awful. Yeah.

2453
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't even get it out. I was like I

2454
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 2: was killed the flim you know. It was like stop

2455
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: stop that all right? Hey, I guess that's our show, right,

2456
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 2: I mean, we want you to watch Showtime. We want

2457
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 2: you to get Showtime for free. Actually, if you don't

2458
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 2: have it thirty days free. You can watch Belatur two

2459
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: ninety one Tomorrow Saturday, four pm Eastern only on Showtime,

2460
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 2: when Logan Story and the full walterweight champion Yarslav Amasov

2461
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: have a rematch three years in the making. Also nine

2462
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 2: pm Eastern Saturday night Showtime Championship Boxing tripleheader, a vacant

2463
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 2: one hundred forty pound title on the line, as Subriel

2464
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 2: Matisse takes on. I vow to get this guy's name

2465
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: right every time. Look, how do you say that first

2466
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: name again?

2467
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: Uh? You said Hara Mayas, but I believe it's.

2468
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 2: Hara MIAs actually Haramius pont Say. In that main event,

2469
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 2: there's other weird and wacky fights this weekend. We hope

2470
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 2: you watch and enjoy. You can catch Luke Thomas and

2471
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell six forty five pm Eastern Saturday night on

2472
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 2: the Showtime Sports YouTube channel calling the preliminary action. Look,

2473
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 2: I think it's three fights this week, and we're gonna

2474
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 2: be setting the states for the evening, entertaining you doing

2475
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 2: a little play by playing color, I mean having fun

2476
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: out there this time. Luke doesn't have to do it alone.

2477
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 2: We're getting the band back together and I'm ready for

2478
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 2: it all right.

2479
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: Should be fun, should be fun, ready for it?

2480
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: Should be fun? Indeed, Mikey Mormle, you've been fantastic behind

2481
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 2: the scenes. Thank you, kind sir, to our incredible audience

2482
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: out there. And I mean, look, Jay Piquette said he's

2483
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: starting a Facebook group with like international donks from all

2484
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: over You're good with this or you a little nervous.

2485
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: A little nervous, but you can't stop the internet BC.

2486
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 2: Do you think Jay Piket can put his loose skills

2487
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: together and find out what happened to Damien the Donk

2488
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: Or do you think that Damien the donks disappearance in

2489
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: any way correlates with ja again in David Appleton rising

2490
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 2: to the forefront of fan nation here on sports.

2491
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I also think it's time on the show, probably has

2492
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: been for some time.

2493
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 2: Here we go. Uh stale Cracker is Luke's favorite uh

2494
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 2: nickname for me as well. All right, there it is.

2495
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 2: That's the end of the program. Please buy our Merchant

2496
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 2: Morningcombat Dot store. Enjoy the fights this weekend. Yeah, that's

2497
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 2: all I got. Tip your waitresses. Take care of your

2498
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 2: mind right. Put this first, Okay, for your family, Put

2499
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 2: this first, so you can take care of everybody, be

2500
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: that person that they need. We love you, you can

2501
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 2: get through this. We'll do it together. Two words we

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: out