1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. Our may man Clay take it 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: a day to speak to conservative youth up in Michigan. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: So just me today, mister Buck the Buckster is a 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: man of many names, including. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: James, which is his first name. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: We shall dive into all of the latest news the Jimmy. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Kimmel not quite firing, I think. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: But indefinite suspension, which sounds a bit like it could 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: turn into a firing. Some very interesting updates on that. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Some things you need to know about that whole situation. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: We are looking at that as not only an indicator 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: of where things are, but perhaps there's a harbinger of 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: things to come in the media ecosystem. It's a new 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: world in this Trump two point zero. There's a new 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: sheriff and his name is Donald Trump and all of 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: his people in this administration. We shall discuss something that 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: makes me want to go back and pull from I 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: think it was the January of this past year, after 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: the election, Clay said, who do I think the Democrats 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: are going to rally behind, and there was a day 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: when I said, very early on, I know people will 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: say this is crazy, but it's. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Going to be very likely. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: I think that AOC Alexandria Ocazio Cortes will become the Democrat, 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: if not nominee, a darling of that Democrat primary campaign. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: And sure enough, already a story out in I think 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: it's axios here about how AOC is eyeing a presidential run. Remember, 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of days ago Clay 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: pointed this out. He helped me with the math on 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: this one. We're fifteen months out from this, We're not 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: far at all from there. This isn't oh, I'm talking 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: about who the nominee is going to be, and we're 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: years in advance of this mattering no, because they're going 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: to have an open primary and we can't have that. 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's not going to be an incumbent on 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: the on either side obviously, so it's gonna be very interesting. 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: But AOC, we'll discuss that a little bit. 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's book making more waves because people are finding 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: parts of it that are well, maybe a little too 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: honest about some things, and that's a surprise isn't it. 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I had to ask the team, do I need to 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: read Kamala's book? Am I going to do that? Clay 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: read the. 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: Jake Tapper, the Fake Tapper book about original Sin. I 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: think it was so he brought us out. Maybe I 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: should have to read Kamala's book. I'll see about that one. 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: So we'll discuss. There's also some very interesting, very interesting 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: details to get into about well, about the situation of 52 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: these companies like Disney and how they view what is 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: going on, what is going on with the American people 54 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: right now, and how they recognize that they can't continue 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: to just antagonize half of the country. This ties in 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: to the Kimmel thing, and we'll discuss this. So we've got 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: some Harris stuff, some AOC stuff. Let's dive into Jimmy 58 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Kimmel right now. I want to share with you here 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: is the heart of the issue is that he said 60 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: something stupid, that he's a jerk, that he is not 61 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: good at what he does, and that a private company 62 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: took action against him. The story that the Democrats are 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: trying to make the center of all this what they 64 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: are trying to focus on. They're saying, oh, the first Amendment. 65 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: The government all of a sudden they care about the 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: First Amendment. They certainly didn't care about the First Amendment 67 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: during COVID, when private corporations were being leaned on, I 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: mean practically a metaphorical gun to the head of these 69 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: social media platforms from the Biden administration saying go after 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: this person, shut them down, go after that person, shut 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: them down. And the Supreme Court, in a horrible decision 72 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: just earlier this year, said yes, sorry, you can't prove 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: that those companies did it because of that government pressure. 74 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: Government pressure alone is not enough. Well, it turns out 75 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: the more we find out about this situation. 76 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: It isn't even government pressure. 77 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: This is just the people at Disney are waking up 78 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: to the realities here of the media marketplace. I bring 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: you my friends the Wall Street Journals reporting on this, 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: they write the following Soon after, Federal Communications commit Chairman 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: Brendan Carr blasted Late Night host Jimmy Kimmel over remarks 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: related to the killing the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Executives at ABC and parent company Disney knew they had 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: a big problem. Kimmel, during his Monday show had criticized 85 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: how President Trump and some other Republicans were responding to 86 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: the fatal shooting. Carr suggested during a podcast appearance two 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: days later, the FCC could take action against the broadcast 88 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: licenses of ABC owned stations. Advertisers and affiliates soon called 89 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: the network expressing concern over Kimmel's show. Executives at Sinclair 90 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: and Nextstar, owners of more than sixty local ABC stations, 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: told network leaders after Car's remarks they would indefinitely preempt 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: the show starting that night, moves that would hobble the 93 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: program's reach. Kimmel had planned to address cars comments on 94 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: his own show Wednesday night, according to people familiar with 95 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: the matter. Before his on air appearance, Dana Walden, co 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: chairman of Disney Entertainment, spoke to the host about his play, 97 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: and the people said after the conversation between Kimmel and Walden, 98 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: she and other senior executives thought the Stars approach could 99 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: make the situation worse. Executives also discuss staff safety, threatening 100 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: emails on kimmel show, et cetera, et cetera. 101 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Walden huddled with her. 102 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Team and Disney chief executive Bob Iger before they temporarily 103 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: decided to take Jimmy Kimmelive off the air. 104 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: And informed Kimmel of the decision. 105 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 106 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Look, this is the truth. Jimmy Kimmel isn't worth the headache, 107 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: isn't talented, isn't getting good ratings, isn't making them money? 108 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: And Disney made this choice, and Disney has a right 109 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: to make this choice. 110 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, this is so straightforward. The people who were 111 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: saying that this is. 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: A free speech issue, hold on a second. I can't 113 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: come on this radio show and say crazy things. I 114 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: mean I could, but then my company, iHeart, has a 115 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: right to take action because that's who I work for. 116 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: Right. 117 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: This is the reality. It's true of all the hosts 118 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: you know on Fox News. Now, if I came on 119 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: this show and said crazy things, and the government I 120 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: mean when I said crazy, obviously not you can't threaten 121 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: people's lives and things like that, but I just mean 122 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: things that bring you into public disrepute, things that offend 123 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: your own audience, things that are beyond the pale. It 124 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: can't lock me up for that. That's the First Amendment. 125 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: That's what the first Amendment means. It doesn't mean that 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: the company can't fire me and obviously. And Disney is 127 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: a company, as you all know, that has made a 128 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: lot of very bad, very woke decisions stretching for quite 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: some time. And now they're trying to turn Jimmy Kimmel, 130 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: rather the left, not Disney, trying to turn Jimmy Kimmel 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: into some free speech martyr. He's a jerk. 132 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: He's a jerk, he told his audience on Monday. 133 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Remember, we hit some new lows over the weekend with 134 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: the Maga gang desperately trying to characterized this kid who 135 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 2: murdered Charlie Kirk as. 136 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Anything other than one of them. 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: As I said, this would be like saying, you know, 138 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: John Wilkes Booth, huge Abraham, you know, huge Abraham Lincoln fan, 139 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: big supporter of abolition and the North and the War. 140 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't get any dumber. And it was. 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: So it's a lie on top of being deeply offensive, 142 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: and it just was really a last straw situation, right 143 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: it was. It was people have had enough of him. 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: And this is something that we need to be very 145 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: clear about with conservatives in the media. We have said 146 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: things that are factually true. We have said things that 147 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: no person who is emotionally stable and reasonable would be 148 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: offended by and been fired or taken off the air, 149 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: or you know, whatever it may be, by these different companies. 150 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: There's been this doubles there's been a double standard for 151 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: a long time. But we have not argued that they're 152 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: can be there's zero standard, because that's completely unworkable. 153 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Right. 154 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: It's one thing to say, hey, I shouldn't be fired 155 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: from my job because I refuse to refer to a 156 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: guy with female pronouns. 157 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Because that's just the truth. Right, that's just the truth. 158 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: And if it offends the left, too bad, but that 159 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: is the truth. It's another thing to say that you 160 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: could go into your boss, or you know, you could 161 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: go on air and trash your own boss on the air. 162 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: Let's just say and expect that there'd be no consequences, 163 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: like that's it. You can't have a company that way. 164 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: It's insane. This is all very straightforward. But they are desperate, 165 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: desperate to turn this into some big free speech. The 166 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: left doesn't care about free speech at all. They're the 167 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: ultimate authoritarians. They're the ultimate authoritarians, and if we live 168 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: in a society, they're the only authoritarians. If we live 169 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: in a society, we're only conservatives face consequences for speech. 170 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: Why would the Democrats stop doing what they do if 171 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: they never suffer cons So we go to the mat, 172 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: we create an unrealistic standard of defending them, which would 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: be which would cover someone like Jimmy Kimmel. He of 174 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: course he should be taken off the air fort he said, 175 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: he's a moron and it's a lie and it's disgraceful. 176 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: But we're gonna we're gonna defend that when it comes 177 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: to a private company again, not the government. If the 178 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Trump administration had, you know, sent in federal agents and 179 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: thrown Jimmy Kimmel in a cell for what he said, Okay, 180 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean that's a First Amendment issue. Disney's saying, this 181 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: guy's a loon and he's gonna make it worse, and 182 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: we're taking him off the air because we pay him 183 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: a whole lot of money and he's not worth it. 184 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: That's called commerce. But Stephen Colbert, he doesn't see it 185 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: that way. Here he is saying this was cut three. 186 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: What a shock that Stephen Colbert doesn't see it that way. 187 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Cut three. We're all Jimmy Kimmel played. 188 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: Welcome around the World, Welcome one and all to the 189 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: Late Show. 190 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: I'm your host, Stephen Colbert, but tonight we are all 191 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel. 192 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: No, only you are Jimmy Kimmel. 193 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: In that you, Stephen Colbert, are also a wildly overpaid, snide, 194 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: underperforming left wing jerk. And I think this is something 195 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: else you have to remember with all this, They've betrayed 196 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: their craft. They have betrayed their craft of comedy. And 197 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm not that's not the biggest issue, but it does 198 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: bother me. These are people who are who have a 199 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: You know, I come to this show every day and 200 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: I think it is a blessing. The fact that I 201 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: with Clay. Of course Clays out today, but the fact 202 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: that we get to speak to you I view as 203 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: a gift every every single day, every hour. Believe it 204 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: or not, I really really feel it. I know you 205 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: believe it, but I really feel this way. 206 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: It's a gift. It's amazing. 207 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: I get to do this for a living, and so 208 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: I try to do the absolute best job that I 209 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: can every day, and I try to serve you this 210 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: audience that rush built every day. I cannot believe how 211 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: self indulgent, how narcissistic and just nasty people like Colbert 212 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: and Kimmel are because remember, there are people that would 213 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: have tuned into those shows who just wanted some lightness 214 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: and laughter at the end of their day, and they 215 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: get mocked. Their beliefs are ridiculed, not in a way 216 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: that's intended to bring people to laugh, but that's intended 217 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: to placate the sensibilities of a very small and very 218 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: nasty contingent really of coastal America, you know, blue state America, 219 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: that isn't interested in laughing together, but wants to laugh 220 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: at because of their own insecurities, their own inability to debate, 221 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: their own lack of self awareness. And so Kimmel has 222 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: just been pandering to that, as has Stephen Colbert. So yeah, 223 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: they're very similar. And late night TV has been in 224 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: a decline for years because of all this. Conservatives have 225 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: been saying this, the right I have been saying it, 226 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: Clay has been saying it. 227 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: All of us in. 228 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: The conservative media, the right wing media, whatever you want 229 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: to call it. We've been saying this four years. These 230 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: guys aren't comedians anymore. They are crappy political pundits who 231 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: have people that also write jokes for them. So they 232 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: don't have the responsibility of having to be knowledgeable or 233 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: insightful about anything. 234 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just the comedian. Clown knows on, clown knows off. 235 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: This is what Jon Stewart used to do, although he 236 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: actually was a little bit funnier than these two, and 237 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: what he did even more dishonest in many ways, but 238 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: at least occasionally you'd get a chuckle out of it. 239 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: But this is the game that they play. 240 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, Jimmy Kimmel can go on the air, 241 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel can cry about Cecil the Lion and then 242 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: make a nasty comment in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. 243 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: And anybody who is a normal American is going to 244 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: see this guy and think that he's he's a he's 245 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: a good dude. He's somebody that you want to, you know, 246 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: cozy up on the couch with the wife, the husband, 247 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: the kids and watch. 248 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: At the end of the night. 249 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: Of course, not Disney figured this out, and Disney took 250 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: some action. Now we'll see what Disney does going forward 251 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: on this one. But I don't see this at all 252 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: as some First Amendment issue. I am not concerned about this. 253 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: I think that this has just been a long time coming, 254 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: and uh, that's that's where I'm coming down on it. 255 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: So call me speaking of free speech eight hundred two 256 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: eight two two eighty two. The lines are open here 257 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: we can discuss what a wee could spend. La Clay 258 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: and I were NonStop all the time in New York City, 259 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: were getting a lot of stuff done. There, a lot 260 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: of meetings and and ideas for the show. And thankfully 261 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: I had Chalk in New York. They always keep it 262 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: there for me. 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Look, this is about where the 284 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: national media is on these on these issues, or I 285 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: should say the national corporate media ecosystem is trending. 286 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: And it seems like they have started. 287 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: To realize that letting people just wildly offend half the 288 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: country who aren't even drawing a big audience, who are 289 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: not even good at their job, isn't worth it market decisions. 290 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I like it. Cause and effect capitalism. 291 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: This is podcast listener Tom for example from South Carolina. 292 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: This is AA play. 293 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: It remind these people, will you that South Park got 294 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: a one billion dollar contract renewed and key are they 295 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: destroy Trump they goof on everybody. Tim Moll is just 296 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: not funny either, as found all the rest of them. 297 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: Yes, they're just not good at this. That's the point. 298 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: This is very obvious. 299 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: You know. 300 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: I remember for a while, you know, Libs used to 301 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: make this argument too. They're like, well, if you were 302 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: more popular on social media, you'd have bigger social media 303 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: following Conservatives. 304 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: And then we found out that they were actually putting 305 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: their hand on the scale and an algorithm and shadow banning, 306 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: and so they were cheating while. 307 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: They were saying it's a fair fight. 308 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: You know. 309 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: This was the early days of Twitter, for example, or 310 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: maybe the mid to early days of Twitter, perfect example 311 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: of this. You'd have these people you'd say, how does 312 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: I've never even heard of this some writer for like 313 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: The Nation or you know, the New Republic or something. 314 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: No one, No one knows this person is all all 315 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: their tweets are showing up. Right, they had a rigged game, 316 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: and they were complaining that we were complaining about it 317 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: being rigged. 318 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: Lives funny stuff. What can you do? All right? Living 319 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: in Florida, we get a lot of storm warnings. 320 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: Sometimes the power goes out, which is why having rapid 321 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: radios is just part of my preparation plan. 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Those two things, of course go 348 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: hand in hand. They have a big audience that they 349 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: serve well. Right, they give them time and attention. The 350 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: audience gives time and attention. Greg and his team give commentary, laughs, 351 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: and you know, they fulfill their end of the bargain. 352 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: And so yeah, they're they're fine. You notice they're not 353 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: all worried about it. So why are we supposed to 354 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: sit around and cry tears for these overpaid jerks? And 355 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: I want to note too, people say, well, Buck, you 356 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: say you like the free market, but then you say 357 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: that they're overpaid. 358 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because these shows. 359 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: In many cases are in from the actual financial realities 360 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: that they exist under. Right, you know, you can tell 361 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: me somebody could be a trust fund kid spending all 362 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: of mommy and daddy's money on Ferraris and Lamborghinis and boats. 363 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: A lot of that going on down here in Miami, 364 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: by the way. 365 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that they have you know, I 366 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: can say, well, they don't have good financial sense and 367 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: what they're doing doesn't impress me. They have a right 368 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: to do it, but it's not because they're so good 369 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: with money. It's not because they've worked so hard. And 370 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: when you look at people like Kimmel and Colbert, there 371 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: were executives who decided in these companies to give them 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: these spots and to give them these contracts based on 373 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: there just you know, their whim And you can say, well, 374 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: where does all this money come from? How could Colbert 375 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: be running. 376 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: At such a loss. 377 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, because the Colbert Show is owned by uh ultimately Comcast. 378 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: So your cable fees that you pay for, or your 379 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: Internet fees if you don't have cable, or I know 380 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: this is bundled together. 381 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: In by you know, tens of millions of people. That 382 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: some of that money gets siphoned. 383 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: Off like some art house project or something for the 384 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: Colbert Show to make up for the difference. That's how 385 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: it goes. It used to even be the case. I 386 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: might add that on the networks like ABC News and 387 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: the Peter Jennings Days and the d Rather Days at CBS, 388 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: leaving News and all this going back decades, those newsrooms 389 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: were supposed to operate or got were, you know, allegedly 390 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: supposed to operate effectively at a revenue neutral level. So 391 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: it was like it was like artistic. You know, the 392 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: news that they were offering at ABC News at night 393 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: was not supposed to be a huge money maker necessarily. 394 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: The rest of the channels or the rest of the 395 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: programming was they offered the news as like a thing 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: that was a public service, almost right. 397 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: And so you look at at Colbert, you look at. 398 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: Kim on On they I mean, they're all making like 399 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty million bucks in salary, lecture everybody about 400 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: how terrible Trump is and everything. But you know, I 401 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: wonder how much of these I wonder how much of 402 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: the money that these guys make they give to charity 403 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: or if they don't, if they don't care about high 404 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: taxes of Democrats. I just I wonder about that. Sometimes 405 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: you'll notice this, the people that whine the most about 406 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: those of us who want to keep our money from 407 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: the government's grasp are very graspy themselves when it comes 408 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: to their own money. So hmm, that's not a surprise. Okay, 409 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: here we have David Letterman saying, and you guys know 410 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: this one place with Clay, and I disagree. Clay like Letterman, 411 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't. I think Letterman is a smug lib. I've 412 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: never thought he was funny if you know his backstory. 413 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: By the way, the guy is a jerk. He's not 414 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: a good guy. And it's just I've always gotten a 415 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: better energy from I always knew Jay Leno doesn't dislike conservatives. 416 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: Letterman always dislike conservative Letterman always was. 417 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: One of these, one of these types. 418 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: So here you have David Letterman stepping in giving his 419 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: analysis of something when he shouldn't be analyzing anything. 420 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: He's just not very smart. Play eleven. 421 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: I feel bad about this because we all see where 422 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 6: this is going. 423 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Correct. It's managed media. 424 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 6: And it's no good. It's silly, it's ridiculous. 425 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: And you can't go. 426 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 6: Around firing somebody because you're fearful or trying to suck 427 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: up to an authoritarian, criminal administration in the Oval Office. 428 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: That's just not how this works. 429 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: You actually can, Letterman, You actually can the people I read. 430 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: You from that Wall Street Journal report, the. 431 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: People making the decisions, the same people who were empowered 432 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: to overpay the likes of kim ol And for all 433 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: long time, I would say the likes of Letterman, but 434 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: the likes of kim ol And, And I know his show 435 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: was successful, but he had so much less competition too. 436 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: There's this whole the media environment has changed so much. 437 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: You have a lot of these people who you know, 438 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: like the Letterman's and the Katie Kirk's, like all titans 439 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: of industry. Katie Kirk has tried many times to become 440 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: relevant again, and. 441 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: You know, doing podcasts or whatever. 442 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: These people just managed to burrow into these corporate media 443 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: entities and suck up to the right people to get 444 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: the job they needed to get to get the perch 445 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: and the perks that they wanted at a time when 446 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: there wasn't free and clear competition. You know, you can 447 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: listen to me here on this show. You can listen 448 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: to a truly a million different podcasts, but you choose 449 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: to listen to this show because you're smart and patriotic 450 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: and have just discernment and good taste. But there's so 451 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 2: many options out there now. It didn't exist before, right, 452 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: There weren't all these options for people. So if you 453 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: were able to just convince someone in power to give 454 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: you that job without having to necessarily prove your track record. 455 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: You could end. 456 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: Up being Jimmy Kimmel. You could end up being Stephen Colbert. 457 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: And this is so funny too. Colbert really came to 458 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: prominence by doing a spin off of our friend Uncle 459 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly, and that show actually. 460 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: Was amusing sometimes. 461 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: But that's the only thing that Colbert has ever done 462 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: that some music is pretending to be a conservative and 463 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: he wasn't even that good at that, but there were. 464 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Some funny moments on that show. 465 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: He's never been good at doing the late night comedy 466 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: show of his own, But that you have David Letterman 467 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: saying you can't fire somebody because you're fearful. 468 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. 469 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Actually, the same executives that hired Colbert could have hired 470 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: or hired Kimmel, could have hired one hundred different comedians. 471 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: They chose him. They can get rid of him. 472 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: They think that what he's saying is ticking off that audience. 473 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: They have every right every right to say see you later, Sanginara, 474 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: and that's what they at least seems like they're probably 475 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: angling in that direction. I also think it's it tells 476 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: you a lot that Kimmel was approached by management. This 477 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: just goes to the sense of entitlement too. Here's these babies. 478 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: They have no gratitude for what they have been given, 479 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, the Jimmy Kimmel, this guy very easily could 480 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: be could have been somewhere and you know, like running 481 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: an unsuccessful pizzeria or something. You know, the fact that 482 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: he's been able to have this career. He's very lucky, 483 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: all right, He's very lucky. 484 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Look, I think I'm lucky. 485 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of you know, you're if you're 486 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: in this world of media and you can make a living, 487 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: and you know, we're not digging ditches here. You know, 488 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: this is pretty this is pretty light work, as a 489 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: lot of things go. The fact that he has just 490 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: no gratitude at all for it, and that when the 491 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: and throws his weight around, and that when the executive 492 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: to say, hey buddy, we got a problem here, his 493 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: approach to it was to figure out a way to 494 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: go on air and make it worse. 495 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna make it worse. 496 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 2: Not gonna issue some apology, no, no, gonna just tell 497 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: everybody what. 498 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: He really thinks. You know, He's gonna stand up for 499 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: his beliefs he's a moron. He's a moron, truly, and 500 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people told me this too. I think 501 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: it showed you. 502 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: Did he cry after Charlie Kirk was shot at any 503 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: point talking about it. He's talking about an American icon, 504 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: a young man thirty one years old, a husband, a father, 505 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: a son, a just a truly decent and inspiring human being, 506 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: just brutally murdered in. 507 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: Front of all of us. We all saw the video. 508 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't move It moved me to emotion. It moved 509 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: Clay to emotion, and so many of you. That didn't 510 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: move Jimmy Kimmel to emotion. But the shooting of a 511 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 2: lion in Africa did that makes him tear up. That 512 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: is sad and that he will. I think he was 513 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: trying to like raise money for it and ever like 514 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: animal conservation or something too. 515 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: There's something very wrong here. 516 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: And Disney, which is a company that does have to 517 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: have a very big consumer base, made a decision that 518 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: makes sense. And that is that. Let me also remind 519 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: you all these people know all these free speech wars, 520 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: oh free the notion of Brian Stelter as a warrior 521 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: for anything, you know, I mean Brian Stelter is a 522 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: is a warrior for supersized fries, Like, I don't know, 523 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: what do you think this guy's are gonna. 524 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: He I A I'm gonna talk about the first debabman. 525 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of somebody who look, he had his job at 526 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: CNN on TV and you know, I don't like, I 527 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: don't like to be mean, but he does deserve it 528 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: because he looked like Jeff Zucker, and Jeff Zucker was 529 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: the guy making the decisions about who gets a job 530 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: at CNN. 531 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: Look at it. 532 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: He's like a Zucker mini me, so Zucker saw Alter 533 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: and he's like that guy's handsome. 534 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: We got to give him a show. 535 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: And here he is telling everybody back in twenty twenty 536 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: one when they were going after Fox News because they 537 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: were you know, their team was in charge. This is 538 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Costelter now is all upset about what's going on as 539 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: our others. 540 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the free speech, the First Amendment. 541 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: They were saying this about Fox News and cable carriers 542 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: and consequences for Fox News. 543 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Play clip nine. Well, some cry cancel culture. 544 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: Let me suggest a different way to think about this, 545 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: a harm reduction model. Most people want clean air and 546 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: blue skies and accurate news and rational views, and then 547 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: in that healthy environment that looks beautiful, then we can 548 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: have great fights about taxes and regulation and healthcare and 549 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: all the rest. The vast majority of people can agree 550 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: that disinformation about let's say, the pandemic is unhealthy. It's harmful. 551 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: So how can that harm be reduced? Well, big tech 552 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: platforms say they are removing lies about vaccines and stamping 553 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: out stop the steelbs and QAnon cult content. 554 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: They'll do. 555 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: These private companies have too much power. Sure, many people 556 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: would say yes, of course they do. But reducing a 557 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: liar's reach is not the same as censoring freedom of speech. 558 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: Freedom of speech is different than freedom of reach, and 559 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: algorithmic reach is part. 560 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Of the problem. Reduce it. 561 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: The liar's reach is not the same thing as sensoring 562 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: freedom of speech. 563 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: It's not about reach. It's about speech, not about speech, 564 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: it's about reach. 565 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: Please please, First of all the things that people are 566 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: saying about vaccines, especially in terms of one, the mandates 567 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 2: were monstrous and stupid, and two they didn't even know 568 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: the vaccines didn't even work. 569 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: They didn't oh, the. 570 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 2: Only the only vaccine that we've ever been told in 571 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: history get it, and you'll still get sick. 572 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: But you know, no big deal. 573 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: You'll all still get sick, You'll all still get the 574 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: you'll all still get the virus. 575 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: And it wasn't gonna kill very very many of you 576 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: at all anyway. 577 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: But you know, kill like one in ten thousand people 578 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: who get it, but sure get the vaccine anyway. 579 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Madness, madness. 580 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: This is the reality, though, of what you deal with 581 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: with these democrats. They think that we can't go back 582 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: on the internet and find what their perspectives were on 583 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: these same issues. But a moment to go and we can. 584 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: And sorry, guys, our team's in charge now. 585 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: So too bad. You don't get away with the same 586 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: stuff he used to get away with. 587 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: Like I said, there's no constitutional issue here. Disney made 588 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: the choice, and the Supreme Court made it clear that 589 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: private corporation, if it just wants to be on the 590 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: good side of the government and makes its own decision 591 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: on something because it feels like it, well that's the 592 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: way it is. 593 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: So that's the way it's going to be. Too bad. 594 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Too bad for Kimmel. 595 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: But the uh, the dozens of people who I'm sure 596 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: found his content super funny every night, they might be a. 597 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Little bit upset. 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That's Insider twenty twenty 620 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: five dot com, paid for by Paradigm Press. 621 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: I want to get to your calls. Appreciate you guys. 622 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Lighting up the lines. We'll do Eric in Quadline, Idaho, 623 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: what's going on? 624 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 7: Eric? 625 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: My call? Yes, sir, have two points to make. 626 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: I just have two points to make. So I'm sixty 627 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: two years old and I grew up watching Johnny Carson 628 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: and then Jay Leno, and I never knew what way 629 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: they leaned, whether it was right or left. And you 630 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: know that that says a lot. It was a comedy show. 631 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: You'd had Karnak the Great or whatever it was called, 632 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: and it was funny. And my second point that you 633 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: may have covered as well already is that when Kimball 634 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: had The Man Show with Adam Carolla, they did lots 635 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: of skiffs. The whole show was pretty much misogynistic, maybe 636 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: racial bias, bigoted, and it was humor. And then all 637 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: of a sudden, he becomes holier than thou, and like 638 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: a typical liberal, it just becomes a hypocrite. Yes, So 639 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: that was That's what I wanted to say. 640 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not thank you so much. Totally agree with 641 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: your points, Eric, I watched. I can't say I was 642 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: a watcher in the like nightly sense, but I remember 643 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: certainly in like early in high school, in junior high 644 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: I would turn on sometimes. 645 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: If I could get away with it my parents and 646 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: know I was still up. 647 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: I would watch the Tonight the Jay Leno Show, and 648 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I always found it to be funny, 649 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: and he just he had a nice way about him 650 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: and that never felt like his jokes were mean spirited. 651 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think that's the way it's supposed 652 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: to be. That's what I mean by those other guys 653 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: betray their craft like they're supposed to really just trying 654 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: to make people laugh. 655 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: And Jimmy Kimmel was going on. 656 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: TV to make people who live in Democrat cities, you know, 657 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: or the the enclaves of Democrat total control, feel superior 658 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: to people in flyover country every night. 659 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that was really what he was going for. 660 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: It's gross. It's gross. Uh, Kathy and Roanoke, Virginia, what's 661 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: going on, Kathy? 662 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm just thinking that perhaps this is all a 663 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 7: cracker barrel moment for Jimmy Kimmel. He was quote unquote suspended. 664 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 7: We don't know for how long. And now you know, 665 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 7: the gems and the left are frothing at the mouth 666 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 7: and making his name out there, and putting his name 667 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 7: out there is a good pr for him. Maybe he'll 668 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 7: pick up some viewers after all this is said and done, 669 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 7: if they put him back on the air. Personally, I 670 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 7: don't want the man, and I just think what he 671 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 7: said was reprehensible. But it could be that this might 672 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 7: work out in his favor. 673 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: I hate to think that, Kathy. I appreciate your outside 674 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: the box thinking. I don't think so on this one. 675 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I think he's uh. I don't think he's gonna pick. 676 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't think anything gonna say, oh, well, this Jimmy 677 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: Kimmel guy said a horrible thing. So now I'm gonna 678 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 2: watch him, you know, And I don't think libs even 679 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: find him particularly funny. 680 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: He's because he's got to look. 681 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: He's also got a lot of competition. There are all 682 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: these other shows, and they all stink. So the whole, 683 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: this whole world of these late not comedy shows, I 684 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: think has been, like I said, Gottfeld show doing great. 685 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: Don't worries about that because it's a good show anyway. 686 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in at Kathy, we'll get more calls. 687 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: More on all this. 688 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: Also some really troubling updates on the ideology of that 689 00:36:50,480 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 2: Charlie kirk assass and we'll talk about it.