Speaker 1: It's McKinnon in motion, there's Kelsey. There's a touchdown Kansas
Speaker 1: City about third and five another blitz. Hurts takes it
Speaker 1: right up the gun. Touchdown Eagles. And if Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: was touched on that run to the end zone, it
Speaker 1: wasn't much that was well handled. The second down and
Speaker 1: ten good protection eared out found Scantling dropped it.
Speaker 2: Patrick's Mahomes is one of the very great quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: the history of the sport, but tonight was another reminder
Speaker 2: that even a magnificent single caller cannot do it alone.
Speaker 2: He needs help. I'm talking to you, Mark has Veldaz Scantling,
Speaker 2: but you're not alone. Mahomes and the Kansas City offense
Speaker 2: once again goes silent in the second half. One of
Speaker 2: the truly weird factoids of this twenty twenty three season,
Speaker 2: and it allows the Eagles to take a twenty one
Speaker 2: seventeen win in Arrowhead behind two Jalen Hurts touchdowns, including
Speaker 2: one in the fourth quarter that put them the head
Speaker 2: four good. The Super Bowl rematch lived up to the hype.
Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler
Speaker 2: and Mark, Yeah, the Eagles they deserve all the credit
Speaker 2: in the world, but what people are gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about when they wake up tomorrow is the Chiefs and
Speaker 2: their inability to support this great quarterback and the wide
Speaker 2: receivers that got them beat If you remember, it feels
Speaker 2: like a million years ago, got them beaten Week one
Speaker 2: against the lines with all those drops by Kadarius Tony
Speaker 2: happened again in primetime here and it continues to be
Speaker 2: a major subplot of the season.
Speaker 3: Yep, it counted tonight in a big way.
Speaker 4: You know, They've been so good at working their way
Speaker 4: out of jams, and I came out of the first
Speaker 4: half thinking that Andy Reid and his creativity and his
Speaker 4: ability to work around some of their weaknesses in a
Speaker 4: tough weather game. They ran for like one hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty one yards. It looked like they were just going
Speaker 4: to dominate both sides of the line, and I think
Speaker 4: for me, the floor started to fall in in the
Speaker 4: third quarter. It was seventeen to seven. The Chiefs are
Speaker 4: in control. They're driving, and there is a pass from
Speaker 4: Mahomes to Justin Watson, who's meant to be on a
Speaker 4: go route, and he runs sort of a winding hesitant
Speaker 4: path and it goes over. It's well over his head.
Speaker 4: It's a bad route by Justin Watson. Had they had
Speaker 4: a true deep threat, it would be twenty four to
Speaker 4: seven at that point. And I think at that point
Speaker 4: the game changes and off they're off and running, and
Speaker 4: the MVS thing later and on. It's like they lack
Speaker 4: an element to their offense. You had a couple drops
Speaker 4: from Travis Kelce in this as well, and it got
Speaker 4: put into a huge fuble in a huge fumble, and
Speaker 4: it's like the Eagles, you know, this was already an
Speaker 4: immense challenge for them, even at home, and to let
Speaker 4: them back into the game I think exposed exactly what
Speaker 4: you said, they're missing elements in this offense, and it
Speaker 4: allowed Philadelphia to come back, get in the comfortable position,
Speaker 4: and start to do what you knew they were going
Speaker 4: to do with that enough time, which is make a
Speaker 4: couple of big plays and turn it around.
Speaker 5: Right. The receiver issue for the Eagles, I mean that
Speaker 5: the Chiefs this season is getting to like an insane level.
Speaker 5: But it's not just the receivers. It's Mahomes a little
Speaker 5: bit huge red zone turnover tonight and he's had just
Speaker 5: a couple of surprising interceptions. It's pre snap penalties that
Speaker 5: they're among the league leaders in that they were second
Speaker 5: worst in the NFL and second half scoring this year,
Speaker 5: and I'm with you, I was impressed by the first
Speaker 5: half game plan and everything like that. I'm losing my voice.
Speaker 5: I apologize, guys. But when mvs drops that pass late,
Speaker 5: you think it's over. After Patrick Mahomes he gets the
Speaker 5: intentional ground and after the quick pressure on fourth and
Speaker 5: twenty five, and then Mahomes throws an even better pass
Speaker 5: on fourth down and Justin Watson drops that. Watson had
Speaker 5: three massive drops. How many times tonight did they go
Speaker 5: to Watson in a huge spot? And I'm thinking Justin
Speaker 5: Watson was Tom Brady's number six receiver in Tampa and
Speaker 5: he's acting like the one here and Travis Kelce had
Speaker 5: him at a terrible night. I know he had a
Speaker 5: couple catches on that final drive, but he had that fumble.
Speaker 5: There was a play that called for him to jump
Speaker 5: in the air and he got like about as high
Speaker 5: off the ground as Vince Wolfer coud it like it
Speaker 5: was like it was a night where I saw those
Speaker 5: quotes from Travis Kelce today that said he's thinking about
Speaker 5: retirement because of all the you know, the damage done
Speaker 5: to his body, and I thought watching him tonight, it's like,
Speaker 5: I get it. He's been through a lot, and you
Speaker 5: do feel like they're just they're just spackling it together
Speaker 5: even though they look like the better team, Dan for
Speaker 5: most of the night. That's why I'm not panicking about
Speaker 5: this team, because they did out gain the Eagles by
Speaker 5: one hundred and they looked like the better team. But
Speaker 5: it's just something's funky here.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. Yeah, the and I agree with you on Kelsey,
Speaker 2: and we talked, We've been talking about it all year,
Speaker 2: but what really They won the Super Bowl last year.
Speaker 2: They had a top three offense last year, and a
Speaker 2: lot of that was predicated on the greatness of Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 2: who had one of the statistically one of the best
Speaker 2: seasons ever by a tight end last year. And he
Speaker 2: is hardly the problem. But when a game like this
Speaker 2: where he does he's looking, you know, he doesn't look
Speaker 2: quite like he has the same juice, and he has
Speaker 2: that huge third down drop. He kind of redeems himself
Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter with the fourth and two
Speaker 2: reception to wipe out his drop, but he also had
Speaker 2: that massive fumble for a team that is averaging and
Speaker 2: this this is a season filled with Wonkee stats, the
Speaker 2: Chiefs averaging less than six points a game in the
Speaker 2: second half this year. With Patrick Mahomes and Andrew calling plays.
Speaker 5: And a good offensive line and a good offensive.
Speaker 2: Line and a solid running back in Isaiah Pachenko, I mean,
Speaker 2: they have absolutely compromised their title defense by not putting
Speaker 2: a better supporting cast around him. And you could guarantee
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are gonna work hard on that in the offseason.
Speaker 2: But in the here and now, there's still seven to three.
Speaker 2: You still kind of feel good about them jockeying for
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the AFC. But you know,
Speaker 2: how many of these games now are we going to
Speaker 2: see where there's just not enough explosiveness on the offense
Speaker 2: even take out the drops. How many times in this
Speaker 2: game is it taking Patrick Mahomes three receptions to get
Speaker 2: ten yards? You know, like everything is underneath and check
Speaker 2: down and he's trying to make his magic. And then
Speaker 2: when he finally and I'm watching the game with my
Speaker 2: brother and my dad, he finally is able to really
Speaker 2: on cork one and it's that beautiful ball to MVS
Speaker 2: and it wasn't a perfect throw, but it was pretty close.
Speaker 2: There's certainly one that should catch. And that's kind of
Speaker 2: his that was what he was known for. U's kind
Speaker 2: of what got him run in Green Bay. But you
Speaker 2: gotta say the Chiefs management and Andy Reid, like they
Speaker 2: brought him in, They brought in MVS and they brought
Speaker 2: in these other wide receivers that aren't getting the job done.
Speaker 2: So that is just something to keep an eye on
Speaker 2: going forward. Is there a way to fix this offense?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know if there's a route going forward.
Speaker 2: It's now heading towards December.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's too late to assume that
Speaker 4: can happen. I mean, I kind of it's like we
Speaker 4: trust the coaching staff. You trust Mahomes to do something
Speaker 4: more than you'd expect with whoever's around him. But to
Speaker 4: your point, Dan, they've scored one fourth quarter touchdown all year.
Speaker 4: That's a typical for the Chiefs and what you think
Speaker 4: of Mahomes. And to your point, Greg, like Watson had
Speaker 4: eleven targets tonight and just five catches. It wasn't like
Speaker 4: he was, you know, making a lot of production out
Speaker 4: of that, and I think it kind of wasted because
Speaker 4: along with the first half running game, it's like we
Speaker 4: are looking at a really special Steve Spagnolo led Chiefs
Speaker 4: defense that held, you know, the Eagles and Jalen Hurts
Speaker 4: to twenty passing yards in the first half. They couldn't
Speaker 4: do anything on third down. They were sacked five times.
Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie's all over the place, Chris Jones is on fire,
Speaker 4: and it all vanishes because you'd expect that part of
Speaker 4: the ball, Mahomes and the offense to take care of business,
Speaker 4: and they flitted it away. And it's just like, it's
Speaker 4: such a shame because about ten minutes away from them
Speaker 4: having an incredible defense of the Super Bowl rematch, and
Speaker 4: it's like we're talking about something else entirely.
Speaker 2: Right, Greg AJ Brown AJ Brown one catch for eight yards.
Speaker 5: Well, it was so the weather. You know, if you
Speaker 5: guys didn't watch this game, if you're listening to it,
Speaker 5: you know the next morning in the UK or wherever.
Speaker 5: The rain I think was a pretty big part and
Speaker 5: why I think the receivers all had terrible nights. It
Speaker 5: felt like all the receivers were taking turns selling out
Speaker 5: their quarterback Jalen Hurts. His first interception comes on a
Speaker 5: play where aj Brown completely changes the route in the
Speaker 5: middle of it. He goes deep when Hurts has no
Speaker 5: way to see him because a quick pressure gets intercepted
Speaker 5: because of aj Brown, who also doesn't make a good
Speaker 5: play on a one on one play in the end zone.
Speaker 5: That is kind of AJ Brown's bread and butter and
Speaker 5: was on a good ball and he just judged it poorly.
Speaker 5: So like the receivers were playing poorly all night. But
Speaker 5: I do give the Eagles defense or offense a little
Speaker 5: bit of credit here because ultimately it felt like they
Speaker 5: were out of it and their defense kept getting three
Speaker 5: and outs to start that third quarter. Then they put
Speaker 5: together a quick strike touchdown drive, and then right when
Speaker 5: it's going against them, Travis Kelce, you know, they get
Speaker 5: that fumble and what I think was the key play
Speaker 5: of the game until the NBS drop fourth and four.
Speaker 5: Andy Reid at his forty yard line chooses to punt
Speaker 5: it in the fourth quarter, and the football guys don't
Speaker 5: like that. Danny. The football guys don't like it, so
Speaker 5: they make that bouncing punt go into the end zone.
Speaker 5: Two plays later, the Eagles have already made up that
Speaker 5: punt yardage. Four plays later, they're in the end zone
Speaker 5: and they got the lead. So as great as the
Speaker 5: Chiefs defense is, it's still defense. And if you give
Speaker 5: the Eagles enough chances over and over, I give the
Speaker 5: Eagles some credit. They kept going back to those screen passes.
Speaker 5: It was driving me crazy, but finally they hit one
Speaker 5: with DeAndre Swift and then DeVante Smith, who was getting
Speaker 5: open all night, he gets deep and Jalen Hurts hits
Speaker 5: him with the nice goal.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 4: I wrote in my notes that on that fourth and
Speaker 4: four punt in Eagles territory, I think was the thirty
Speaker 4: nine or something like that, like Greg is gonna go
Speaker 4: nuts off this, Yeah, netted only nineteen yards and then
Speaker 4: that is like that was just like the second or
Speaker 4: third it was, and just letting them back into the game.
Speaker 4: And like, I mean, give some credit to the way
Speaker 4: that DeAndre Swift ran tonight. And then suddenly you started
Speaker 4: to see Hurts do it on the ground too, and
Speaker 4: that drive changed everything. It's just like these key mistakes
Speaker 4: and that punt decision was so atypical for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: No matter what school of thought you're in it's like,
Speaker 4: be aggressive and attack because you've got the greatest quarterback
Speaker 4: in the league and you can make a play here
Speaker 4: no matter what's happened. And I thought that was just
Speaker 4: kind of like handing a chance back to an aggressive
Speaker 4: Eagles offense to say, come do what you can do,
Speaker 4: and they did it.
Speaker 5: It's why you need good receivers, Dan, because they eat
Speaker 5: only one receiver had a great night tonight, but it's
Speaker 5: really important to have high level players at that position.
Speaker 2: A J.
Speaker 5: Brown couldn't get it done, but it was DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 5: I think it was ultimately talent that sort of won
Speaker 5: out there for the Eagles that saved them.
Speaker 3: And they did without Dalla Scottter too.
Speaker 2: He made that he made a big catchdown field the
Speaker 2: forty one yard game. So I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: you could say it was the weather and it certainly
Speaker 2: wasn't great, but a lot of these drops, man, you
Speaker 2: just you just gotta and it was. It was a great,
Speaker 2: great environment. I thought, you know, despite the weather, like
Speaker 2: it felt like a huge game. It felt like a
Speaker 2: playoff game. And I have to give some credit. I
Speaker 2: don't really like doing this and I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but I also don't think I'm alone. I know Keith
Speaker 2: Hanss feels this as well. Oh, Nick Sirianni annoys me
Speaker 2: for some reason. It is something about him. He just
Speaker 2: I just feel like a little kind of he's a
Speaker 2: rascal that guy to love him for the same reason
Speaker 2: why I probably annoy you, but I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see why you would like him. But I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people feel the same way with
Speaker 2: some of his history. Onics on the sidewalkline, and he's
Speaker 2: just got that face. He's got one of those faces.
Speaker 2: But having there but oh whatever, a lot of everybody's
Speaker 2: having fun. But something about him, you know, he's just
Speaker 2: a little tweaker. He's a little tweaker, is what he is.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, you got to give him
Speaker 2: credit because you know this is not and you know,
Speaker 2: if MVS makes that catch whatever, maybe it's a different story.
Speaker 2: It probably is.
Speaker 5: Maybe he goes go down and score. By the way the.
Speaker 2: Chiefs, I think the Chiefs would have won the game.
Speaker 2: I think there was that big a drop by m VS.
Speaker 2: One that can define seasons. But he lost his offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator Shansneich, and he lost his defensive coordinator Gan and
Speaker 2: and this team is nine and one, and Siriani obviously
Speaker 2: has a good eye for talent for his coaching staff,
Speaker 2: and he knows what he's doing. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if he gets enough credit maybe because everybody, like except
Speaker 2: for great kind of agrees and he's just kind of annoying.
Speaker 2: You just want to just something just like swat him sometimes.
Speaker 2: But he is very good at this, and that's part
Speaker 2: of their success as well. They just have a very
Speaker 2: strong team that's built for these crucible type games and moments.
Speaker 2: And you saw it again tonight.
Speaker 4: That I thought that Sirianni, though, is the sort of
Speaker 4: a lightning rod who taught taught us a lesson that
Speaker 4: if you come in as a coach and your own
Speaker 4: social media staff does you dirty by making you look
Speaker 4: like a fool, and when you come prancing around the
Speaker 4: building on that opening sort of tour, and then you
Speaker 4: turn out to be a great coach who you're right,
Speaker 4: they lost two good coordinators who look like good coaches themselves.
Speaker 4: That's like a talent drain, and Sirianni's kept it together.
Speaker 3: And I like Sirianni.
Speaker 4: I might be in the middle of you two, but
Speaker 4: I kind of like I understand like the tears and
Speaker 4: all that stuff and some of the looks on the sideline,
Speaker 4: But like, I think he fits the Eagles and they
Speaker 4: get out.
Speaker 5: Of the man for crowd during the national anthem.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he definitely, he definitely fits that.
Speaker 2: He definitely fits Philadelphia. I'll say that. Yeah, I'll leave
Speaker 2: it there.
Speaker 5: He's a little he's a little extra. I definitely can mark.
Speaker 2: Don't just want to give him a little slap though,
Speaker 2: just a little wit something.
Speaker 4: So I just think he's grown on me because like
Speaker 4: something about the like the Eagles used to kind of
Speaker 4: annoy me in general. I couldn't quite place it. And
Speaker 4: he's made me a fan of them because of kind
Speaker 4: of what they did tonight to get out of the
Speaker 4: jams they were in. And he comes up with solutions. Well,
Speaker 4: but I know what you're saying.
Speaker 5: They're really showing that they because it's so hard to
Speaker 5: come back from, you know, making the Super Bowl and
Speaker 5: losing it and to come back and be nine and
Speaker 5: one despite not always playing their best, and this gave
Speaker 5: that feeling too. They got out gained by one hundred yards.
Speaker 5: But they've been in a lot of different situations this year.
Speaker 5: They were down big to the commander. I know it's
Speaker 5: the Commanders, but they were down big to the Commanders
Speaker 5: a couple of times. Won those games. They've shown they can.
Speaker 5: They're really good at front runners, but they're also good
Speaker 5: in coming from behind. This was a game and if
Speaker 5: I was a Chiefs fan, I actually do take a
Speaker 5: lot of positives out of this game. I think they
Speaker 5: won the line of scrimmage for the most part on
Speaker 5: both sides of the ball against Philadelphia. It's very impressive,
Speaker 5: like Mahomes was protected well. You mentioned the rushing yards
Speaker 5: in the first half. It did dry up a little bit, Mark,
Speaker 5: but it was partly because they went away from the run.
Speaker 5: I was impressed and I thought it was telling. Andy
Speaker 5: Reid went into the bye week. Everyone's what's he gonna
Speaker 5: do when he comes out of the by. He's the
Speaker 5: magician coming out of the by, and kind of what
Speaker 5: he did was like, actually, we can run the ball.
Speaker 5: We have no explosive plays. We're just gonna be methodical
Speaker 5: and count on our defense and we're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 5: And they did that very well, and for them to
Speaker 5: get a lot more pressure on Hurts. They had five
Speaker 5: sacks in the first half. They won that matchup. Chris
Speaker 5: Jones was awesome for the most part. I know they
Speaker 5: ended up losing this game, but those are pretty good
Speaker 5: underlying signs that actually this Chiefs team up front probably
Speaker 5: as the best O line D line combination they've ever had,
Speaker 5: and maybe the best O line D line combination in
Speaker 5: the entire NFL. Plus Patrick Mahomes, that's still a lot
Speaker 5: to work with. Even yeah, you got some issues.
Speaker 4: I'm with you, and that was on display tonight, But
Speaker 4: I would also say that it's not like untrue what
Speaker 4: we talked about before, like you've got issues at wide
Speaker 4: receiver and we're not sure we're rat with Travis Kelce,
Speaker 4: Like it leaves Mahomes on an island, and you're not
Speaker 4: gonna win every one of these matchups different ways. Spag
Speaker 4: Nola is one of the reasons they had five sacks too.
Speaker 4: It's like they in that first half, like, I mean,
Speaker 4: he's scheming them up so well, and like other teams
Speaker 4: can't do that against the Eagles.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, ball on.
Speaker 5: Third and short, they weren't doing these crazy plays. They
Speaker 5: were just handing the ball off and they were gaining
Speaker 5: big yards. I was like, this is this is progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, next week the bill. The Eagles get the Bills
Speaker 2: at home on Sunday and the Chiefs are in Vegas
Speaker 2: for the Raiders. So there you go. And I was
Speaker 2: thinking now that I'm thinking about a little bit more. Mark.
Speaker 2: Think of it like a long leather glove, right, and
Speaker 2: you take it off finger by finger, and then you're
Speaker 2: holding it by like kind of the base of it,
Speaker 2: and you're just like whack him in the face and
Speaker 2: you go just stop it.
Speaker 4: Oh, like an old timey woman's like nineteen forty smack
Speaker 4: with her glove, like in the rain.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's just like, just stop it.
Speaker 5: I don't understand what people want out of their coaches.
Speaker 5: I mean, if they're just standing there and they're boring,
Speaker 5: they're too boring. He's out there living like he's living
Speaker 5: his life. He's leaving it all out there on the field.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 3: There could be some are envy going on here too.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that it's controversial to think Nick Sirianni
Speaker 5: is a good entertainment.
Speaker 2: You're siding with a mass agitator. Greg. I totally get why.
Speaker 5: I will admit he is almost the exact example of
Speaker 5: the type of guy that like, if he's if he's
Speaker 5: your coach, you love him. If he's on your team,
Speaker 5: you love him. And if not, maybe you're If you're
Speaker 5: against him, he would drive you crazy. Against I'm a closet.
Speaker 5: So I enjoyed them quite a bit.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, great game. Wouldn't mind seeing
Speaker 2: them play again in February. How about that? Oh, what's that?
Speaker 5: We had a we had a lockoff for this for tonight.
Speaker 2: We had a chief shaking his head. That's not a
Speaker 2: good sign.
Speaker 5: We had a chief pick for Mark and the Cincinnati
Speaker 5: Zoo staying uh, staying on Greg's heels.
Speaker 2: Here they lock up the Eagles, man, I can't remember,
Speaker 2: and that's a bad beat. Mark. Just know that I
Speaker 2: probably would have won my fantasy matchup of mvs. Catches
Speaker 2: that ball. So we're both a little annoyed about how
Speaker 2: the end of that game played out. But but I
Speaker 2: gotta say the west Brothers and and uh with the
Speaker 2: zoo keeper Uh, Nick Westling. Greg is run away with
Speaker 2: this thing. But at the same time, I can't remember
Speaker 2: the last time in the Westling Brothers loss, I said,
Speaker 2: aren't they on a mighty streak of their own?
Speaker 5: I'm not running away, they're they're right there, two back
Speaker 5: with with ten to play or whatever that's not.
Speaker 2: Would that be delicious if that came him down to
Speaker 2: the that would be last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: It'd be good for the show.
Speaker 4: And I like, I was thinking about this tonight as
Speaker 4: I was watching the Chiefs fade off to the distance
Speaker 4: along with my lock, Like I do take consolation. Do
Speaker 4: you remember back in twenty sixteen? Of course you will.
Speaker 4: You remember how fourth place turned out and who got
Speaker 4: fourth place?
Speaker 3: That you remember. I'm sorry, I don't know exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: No one.
Speaker 4: No one is like in nine. No one is going
Speaker 4: to remember my fate in this contest.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: I can walk around and Greg, I know that you
Speaker 4: can drive to the local Wendy's with your lock trophy
Speaker 4: and they're going to give you all your food at
Speaker 4: half price. I'm sure that's how it works. But you know,
Speaker 4: outside of our little bubble, and I do enjoy I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I'm hitting out, but like I'm
Speaker 4: getting my butt kicked in the Locks tournament, and I'm
Speaker 4: you know, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To look at it from a large like a larger view.
Speaker 2: It's it has no meaning ong night, my Tannebaum could
Speaker 2: like go to the friendlies in Western mass and talk
Speaker 2: about how amazing it is with Greg's lock trophy.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm losing my touch because I was I
Speaker 5: was straight root and hard for the Eagles tonight. If
Speaker 5: I had, if I had known, I guess that it
Speaker 5: was nixt team, maybe it would have changed my mind.
Speaker 2: Oh what a what a showdown that one.
Speaker 5: I'm always I'm always always pro Eagles. What a team.
Speaker 2: And I saw Nick did did do a little trash
Speaker 2: talk in that In that thread, it looks like Mark,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, no so and I and I you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's good to be competitive. But like the literally the
Speaker 4: minute the game ended, he sent like three lock, like
Speaker 4: you know icons.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, you had that thing planned
Speaker 3: for like twenty minutes. I get it. But that's fine.
Speaker 3: And I are not very confrontational with each other. I
Speaker 3: mean we're passive.
Speaker 5: Well, it's sounding like you got under your skin just
Speaker 5: like just a little.
Speaker 2: I was little.
Speaker 4: I was ended tonight, like any chance of me doing
Speaker 4: anything ended tonight.
Speaker 2: I think there's kind of like the the lock competition.
Speaker 2: Now as we headed, you know, deeper into the second half.
Speaker 2: It's like two Siriani's going off against each other, only
Speaker 2: one could be on top at the end.
Speaker 5: There are no winners in that competition. I do want
Speaker 5: to say before we moved totally off this game, I
Speaker 5: actually think the Chiefs have as good or better chance
Speaker 5: to get the one seed than the Eagles. Despite this loss,
Speaker 5: this was a bigger win I think for the Eagles.
Speaker 5: It was a bigger game I think for the Eagles
Speaker 5: than it would have been for the Chiefs just because
Speaker 5: of the schedules. That's it. I mean, they've survived the
Speaker 5: start of this gauntlet by beating Dallas and by beating
Speaker 5: Kansas City. But it remains very hard that Detroit's only
Speaker 5: one game back. San Francisco's hanging around, Dallas is hanging
Speaker 5: around in Kansas City schedule. The rest of the season
Speaker 5: is Cupcake City. The only tough game really is is
Speaker 5: home for Buffalo, which is not a game that you
Speaker 5: know that they're going to be underdogs or anything. You
Speaker 5: know they're playing at the Chargers week eighteen. Everyone's gonna
Speaker 5: have their bags packed for the Chargers by that point,
Speaker 5: Like I could see that the Chiefs either winning now
Speaker 5: or only having four losses, and I know they're not
Speaker 5: the one seed tonight. It's the Ravens technically, but the
Speaker 5: Chiefs have a very good chance to be the ones.
Speaker 2: Looks like you're coming around on my take on the
Speaker 2: podcast last week. Well, there's no good teams in the FC.
Speaker 2: So this Chiefs team with literally zero fireworks that averages
Speaker 2: five points a game in the second half, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: could get the one seed.
Speaker 5: They have a great defense, a great head coach, a
Speaker 5: great quarterback in a great offensive line. So yes they
Speaker 5: have they have one pretty big weakness, you know, scoring
Speaker 5: points in the second.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 3: Your Ragions will still win the Super Bowl as a
Speaker 3: second seed.
Speaker 5: Then when you look back at teams that win the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, they're usually like thirteen and four. Sometimes they're
Speaker 5: twelve and five. You know, it's like they got to
Speaker 5: lose some games for that to happen. You know, it happens.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll hit the news and then get on out of here.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back. All right, Let's see, let's see,
Speaker 2: let's see, let's see, let's see. Let's hit some news,
Speaker 2: starting with my more abund New York Jets who are
Speaker 2: having historically poor offensive season, and on Monday, they finally
Speaker 2: made the move that a lot of Jets fans have
Speaker 2: been asking for for weeks and weeks. Zach Wilson is
Speaker 2: on the bench once more, not just demoted to second string.
Speaker 2: He is now third on the depth chart, behind Tim Boyle,
Speaker 2: who will start on Friday against the Dolphins in the
Speaker 2: Black Friday Game at Medlife Stadium, and Trevor Simeon who
Speaker 2: had been signed from the practice squad and he will
Speaker 2: be the backup. So Wilson is the emergency quarterback and
Speaker 2: quite possibly, and you know, this guy's got more lives
Speaker 2: than a cat, but quite possibly he has played his
Speaker 2: last game as a Jet. Here is Robert Sala talking
Speaker 2: about the draft process and what they might have done
Speaker 2: different back in one.
Speaker 1: Robert, what do you believe you guys could have done
Speaker 1: differently during the draft process when evaluating the quarterback position?
Speaker 2: You know what, I actually, I've got my thoughts. I've
Speaker 2: shared him, but I'm not going to get into it
Speaker 2: here with you guys. Is that is a very strange, strange,
Speaker 2: strange answer from Sala, who you know, has been a
Speaker 2: little inconsistent around this quarterback quite frankly, he went from
Speaker 2: supporting him deeply and fully as recently as you know
Speaker 2: about seven days ago to now with kind of that
Speaker 2: weird non answer and using language that teams tend to
Speaker 2: use when they've given up on a QB, like I
Speaker 2: think he can be a good player, you know, insinuating
Speaker 2: wherever that may be, but it won't be here. So
Speaker 2: that is a move that Jets had to make. I
Speaker 2: was raging guys about I don't know if I could
Speaker 2: watch another game and everyone should be fired if that
Speaker 2: guy is even on the field in the second half
Speaker 2: on against the Bills. So they did bench him in
Speaker 2: that game, and now they move him out of the picture.
Speaker 2: It's just all too little, too late, in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, well, you've clearly given up on him
Speaker 5: when he's the third quarterback behind Tim Boyle and Trevor Simeon.
Speaker 5: That's pretty dark. I mean, there's a non zero chance
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson never starts a game in the NFL again.
Speaker 5: I mean there's a non zero chance he's out of
Speaker 5: the league in two or three years. It happened to
Speaker 5: Blake Bortles, another top five pick. He'll get another chance
Speaker 5: on another team. Certainly, but it'd be a surprise if
Speaker 5: he ever played for the Jets again. And and part
Speaker 5: of the issue is that it's Tim Boyle next or
Speaker 5: it's Simeon who is only on the team because he
Speaker 5: didn't make the Bengals, And like Tim Boyle is one
Speaker 5: of Aaron Rodgers' best friends, it's hard not to just
Speaker 5: find it bizarre that one of Aaron Rodgers' best friends is,
Speaker 5: you know, running playing quarterback with Aaron Rodgers' favorite play
Speaker 5: caller calling the plays. It's just like it's a little much.
Speaker 4: This is another example of when in the press conference
Speaker 4: the coach starts to use words and speak in a tone.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's clear frustration, like you're basically back where
Speaker 4: you were a year ago with Zach Wilson, and organizationally,
Speaker 4: like I think a more like let's just take a
Speaker 4: fresh look at what we're doing. And we're bringing in
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. There's an opportunity to get us strong backup.
Speaker 4: And they spoke so strongly about sticking up for Zach
Speaker 4: Wilson and what he could be behind Aaron Rodgers. He's
Speaker 4: gonna sit there, you know, danger free for two years
Speaker 4: and learn that's cool, But that's not how most of
Speaker 4: these seasons work for most of these teams. And I
Speaker 4: feel when I hear Sala speak that, like Joe Douglas
Speaker 4: and Sala and filling the blank quarterback, Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 4: ownership are just not on the same page. And Sala's
Speaker 4: the one having to take it up there verbally. Now
Speaker 4: I know he's also been inconsistent, but like he just
Speaker 4: sounds like unempowered, and I don't I just I think
Speaker 4: also he's looking at a quarterback that very likely could
Speaker 4: cost a lot of people in that organization jobs very soon.
Speaker 2: I'll leave it here, and this is to Woody and
Speaker 2: Douglas and Tasala and Hackett, and even a little bit
Speaker 2: to Aaron Rodgers. I'll quote the joker, you get what
Speaker 2: you deserve, and now let's see if you get to
Speaker 2: keep your job at the end of the season, because
Speaker 2: they could get a lot worse before it gets better.
Speaker 2: Moving on, the San Francisco forty nine Ers have lost
Speaker 2: a big piece. Also, my guy you may return remember
Speaker 2: from last year, Telenoa Hufanga is out for the year
Speaker 2: with a torn acl on his right knee. Suffered the
Speaker 2: injury against the Bucks on Sunday, and that is a
Speaker 2: big piece of their secondary Greg that goes to the
Speaker 2: wayside until twenty twenty four, So a challenge for San
Speaker 2: Francisco's defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he made progress this year too. Last year,
Speaker 5: I know, he was a second team All Pro, but
Speaker 5: there were a lot of big time plays and he
Speaker 5: was giving up a lot of big time plays. And
Speaker 5: this year he was more consistent and he still was
Speaker 5: making the big play. So he just has a physical
Speaker 5: edge back there. It's really the weakest part of their team,
Speaker 5: I would say in general, is their secondary, and so
Speaker 5: that's losing a big part of it. They drafted a guy,
Speaker 5: Gyre Brown, I think it was the second round. It
Speaker 5: was a surprise pick. He came in on Sunday and
Speaker 5: made some plays. Everyone was excited about him. So that's
Speaker 5: one where they're drafting. Their development will have to be
Speaker 5: spot on in the early returns at least. How he
Speaker 5: played Sunday, we're pretty good.
Speaker 3: And we talked like about how the Bucks.
Speaker 4: You know, clearly it was like would have been a
Speaker 4: lot for them to come back and take a lead
Speaker 4: in that game, but they kept knocking on the door
Speaker 4: and they were right down by the end.
Speaker 2: Zone.
Speaker 4: There was a tip pass and Jyra Brown picked it off,
Speaker 4: and it's like, all right, there's a start.
Speaker 3: There, and I think there's some promise with him.
Speaker 4: But like the Niners, I trust to like lose guys
Speaker 4: and like find a way back in.
Speaker 5: Dan, I have a point of correction. You go ahead,
Speaker 5: third round pick, and we strive to be accurate here.
Speaker 2: That's very important. I would give you a really touchy
Speaker 2: high five if I was with you right now. Joey
Speaker 2: Bosa of the Chargers limped off the field against the
Speaker 2: Packers on Sunday with a foot injury. He got carded.
Speaker 2: He had the towel in his face and it all
Speaker 2: looked very bad and it's not good. Not maybe end
Speaker 2: of the season bad, but it could be. Joey Bosa
Speaker 2: has a right footspra which sounds awfully close that dreaded Harlot,
Speaker 2: that fluozy, that scorpion woman Liz Frank. But I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing that as a term connected to this injury. But
Speaker 2: it's a footsprain, so he's likely headed to injured reserve,
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley said Monday, which would put him out at
Speaker 2: least the next four games, and it will be determined
Speaker 2: Staley said, if Bosa plays again this season, Greg, this
Speaker 2: has been part of the Joey Bosa experience, and you
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be for whether it's the Chargers or
Speaker 2: whomever else that's gonna give him a massive contract because
Speaker 2: he's an elite player when it comes to doing what
Speaker 2: he does best and getting to the quarterback. But you know,
Speaker 2: this is a tough injury for a Chargers defense that
Speaker 2: already stinks, and it really is frustrating because pos has
Speaker 2: missed a lot of time in his career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went and did the numbers randomly earlier this
Speaker 5: year because they started thinking about it. This is his
Speaker 5: ninth season in This will be the sixth time in
Speaker 5: nine seasons I believe that he failed to top what's
Speaker 5: the number four hundred, five hundred and fifty snaps, which
Speaker 5: would consider like a part time player. If you play
Speaker 5: half the snaps, it's about five five hundred. So he
Speaker 5: has been less than a part time player, less than
Speaker 5: half the snaps in six of his nine seasons. He
Speaker 5: he's had a great theoretical career. It would you feel
Speaker 5: for it for him, and you certainly feel for the Chargers.
Speaker 5: He gave him all that money, but he really hasn't
Speaker 5: had the career kind of that's in your head that
Speaker 5: that you think that he had, because he just he
Speaker 5: just hasn't been on the field enough. And I do
Speaker 5: suspect that they'll move on from him in the offseason.
Speaker 3: Well, and we don't know who who who like they
Speaker 3: is at this point too, it's Tlesco.
Speaker 5: He's well, yeah, right, and I'm just saying he's been
Speaker 5: there forever.
Speaker 4: He's got as probably safe but like it's is he
Speaker 4: was there partially or this time around now for Brandon
Speaker 4: Stilly's defense as well. He's got a thirty six million
Speaker 4: dollar cap hit next year and he's not that easy
Speaker 4: to trade unless you to take him some dead money.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, he's got zero guaranteed.
Speaker 5: This is crazy. It's crazy that like three seasons in
Speaker 5: a nine season career where he really stayed healthy.
Speaker 2: Other injury news better injury news. The Ravens told reporters
Speaker 2: on Sunday that they thought Mark Andrews the season was
Speaker 2: over after the ankle injury that he suffered against the
Speaker 2: Bengal and that Bengals it was a Thursday injury excuse me.
Speaker 2: In their thirty four to twenty win. Harbaugh gave a
Speaker 2: surprise update on the tight end Monday, saying there's a
Speaker 2: quote outside chance they see him again. Let's hear from John.
Speaker 6: Nothing's completely definitive yet. But my understanding is in talking
Speaker 6: with our trainer and the doctors is that it wasn't
Speaker 6: as bad as initially feared right after the game. That
Speaker 6: there is there is the type of damage that's done
Speaker 6: sometimes and that kind of an action what happens to
Speaker 6: the ankle, but it wasn't as bad as it could
Speaker 6: have been. It's a little cleaner than they thought based
Speaker 6: on the MRI. He's gonna be involved with doctor Anderson
Speaker 6: down there in Carolina Charlotte here next few days and
Speaker 6: that we'll know more. But there might be an outside
Speaker 6: chance you could get back at some point in time.
Speaker 6: So we'll just have to see how that goes on.
Speaker 6: And I want to say that's definitive by stretch, but
Speaker 6: there is some optimism.
Speaker 2: Mark. Does this take too strong? The Ravens cannot win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl without Mark Andrews on the field.
Speaker 4: No, I think he's the north Star. But I also
Speaker 4: the minute I heard this news, I had a vision
Speaker 4: of like, we're gonna be tracking this for weeks and
Speaker 4: like he will suit up and appear in time for
Speaker 4: like the crucial, you know, final game of the regular
Speaker 4: season or their playoff game. I can see that already,
Speaker 4: and I have another you know, I have a suspicion.
Speaker 4: You know how people have questioned if Shakespeare was actually
Speaker 4: like maybe a collection of twelve to fifteen writers, you know,
Speaker 4: he was writing like massive.
Speaker 3: Plays, like every week.
Speaker 4: Doctor Andrews, I'm convinced is just like a legal firm
Speaker 4: of like twenty two doctors that do surgeries every week.
Speaker 3: Go back.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many years, how many surgeries does
Speaker 4: this guy do. He's the busiest guy in the league.
Speaker 4: Everyone goes to him. I wouldn't be convinced that there
Speaker 4: were if it was seven to eight people all, you know,
Speaker 4: collecting massive paychecks.
Speaker 5: Well, ever since Neil Architroge or whatever, el Archiro.
Speaker 2: His name is Neil Ela Troch okay.
Speaker 5: Bro next, So you got it. I've never said that
Speaker 5: name before, and I realized I had no idea how
Speaker 5: to say it. But I've just seen it. Those guys
Speaker 5: they hate each other. They see each other at the
Speaker 5: golf course and he's like Andrews, that guy he's old
Speaker 5: tro Elatroje is bringing in the new the new blood
Speaker 5: I did Tom Brady's knee.
Speaker 2: Tough sitch. When those guys are battling out, driving up
Speaker 2: past each other and they're like porsches.
Speaker 5: The guys, they are likely they'll be fine in the meeting.
Speaker 2: Great. Who do the Seahawks get on Thursday Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: They got the forty nine ers Thursday night.
Speaker 2: All right, that's a tough one, Ovs. And they expect
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, who banged up his elbow in the loss
Speaker 2: of the Rams, to be on the field. So that's
Speaker 2: a good thing. And I'm going to double this one up. Mark,
Speaker 2: who's the backup quarterback of the Browns presently.
Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like it's going to be Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: very soon and maybe PJ. Walker hits the skids behind dtr.
Speaker 2: Right right now, technically it's PJ Walker, But Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: old stone Pony himself has Stone age Pony himself has
Speaker 2: signed with the Cleveland practice squad. You know, we've been
Speaker 2: covering Joe Flacco for a long time, but I will
Speaker 2: tell you this, Joe Flacco has got a special skill
Speaker 2: at this point in his career, and it is getting
Speaker 2: hit in the pocket and fumbling the ball. So I hope, Mark,
Speaker 2: for your sake, we do not see Joe Flacco on
Speaker 2: the field in meaningful snaps, because that man is a
Speaker 2: human fumble machine.
Speaker 4: I do love that when the Browns tweeted it out,
Speaker 4: they went out of their way to the image of
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco in a Jets jersey. There's no way they're
Speaker 4: going to tweet out Flacco. And he was like he
Speaker 4: had outside of Big Ben. He had the greatest quarterbacks
Speaker 4: starting record against the Browns of anyone ever in the
Speaker 4: modern times. And it just seems like an ill fit
Speaker 4: to me. And he's also roughly fifty six years old,
Speaker 4: so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2: Can I know, Can I just throw out there, Mark,
Speaker 2: you may remember, you may not. Joe Flacco one of
Speaker 2: the most unlikely Jet wins and team history one to
Speaker 2: zero against the Cleveland Browns as a New York Jet
Speaker 2: last season.
Speaker 4: I guess you bring him in for his information about
Speaker 4: what he can do for the Browns. From the inside,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what's happening here.
Speaker 5: They do play the Jets later in a potential DTR
Speaker 5: versus Tim Boyle Primetime showdown bench me. I honestly would
Speaker 5: not be surprised if it's Joe Flacco by then, because
Speaker 5: A it's just hard to stay healthy as a quarterback
Speaker 5: and so we don't know if the Browns will be
Speaker 5: able to stay healthy, and b just depending on how
Speaker 5: it goes man this offense that they're putting together with DTR,
Speaker 5: it's just they're starting from the ground floor and they're
Speaker 5: they're putting different and at some point they just might
Speaker 5: want to see how it looks with someone with experience.
Speaker 5: It just wouldn't shock you if at some point Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco plays for them. But I'm with you, I'd rather
Speaker 5: just see Ditiargo.
Speaker 2: The Patriots will decide they're starting in quarterback in week
Speaker 2: twelve and perhaps beyond after sharing reps in practice this week.
Speaker 2: That is depressing between Belly Zappi and of course Mac Jones,
Speaker 2: unless there's another guy in the mix. Greg, you can
Speaker 2: help me out.
Speaker 5: With that there is. I actually think Will Greer I
Speaker 5: would put money on Will Gear starting games this season.
Speaker 5: Maybe not this week, but this season.
Speaker 2: Will Greer and Tim Boyle making up fifty percent of
Speaker 2: the AFC's quarterbacks. That's rough. And finally, the NFL has
Speaker 2: suspended fourteen year veteran. That's unbelievable. Fourteen years. Kareem Jackson's
Speaker 2: been smoking guys on the field, and he was suspended
Speaker 2: without pay four games for repeated violations of player Safe
Speaker 2: Your Rules, the result of a pretty vicious hit on
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs in Denver's twenty one to twenty win on Sunday, Mark,
Speaker 2: you were saying to me that real man football is missing,
Speaker 2: and and you celebrate hits like that. That's what you
Speaker 2: said to me privately. Do you still believe that now
Speaker 2: that we're sharing conversation in public?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Why would I back down from that take? That
Speaker 4: is so honest for me. He just came back from
Speaker 4: a suspension, just appealed like another four literal he suspended.
Speaker 5: Again, suspended, played two games. It's like Mark's always like, hey,
Speaker 5: why don't you just put them in a skirt. It's
Speaker 5: like that a little message, you know.
Speaker 2: How about a little flag football.
Speaker 4: At this point, I thought our text threads were private,
Speaker 4: but here they are just getting vertal on.
Speaker 5: People were going wild on that Fletcher Cox hit on
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes on that last drive, which which set up
Speaker 5: that MBS hit which was. It was borderline, but I
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna go crazy about it.
Speaker 2: All right. And finally before we say goodbye, because it's absurd.
Speaker 2: You know, I grew up on the East Coast, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's been a long time since I've been
Speaker 2: watching prime time on the East Coast. And we're taping
Speaker 2: this at twelve eighteen in the morning. You have a
Speaker 2: flight to catch in the morning.
Speaker 5: Actually, I want to go back to the whole Will
Speaker 5: Grier Zappi mac Jones thing for a while because what
Speaker 5: it really says about the Patriots dynasty that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, you know, the Browns had another stirring win
Speaker 2: in week eleven, and they are they are charging hard
Speaker 2: in the AFC, and they want to let people know,
Speaker 2: the people who doubt them know, Hey, we might be
Speaker 2: down our star running back, we might be without our quarterback,
Speaker 2: but we're still here and they're going to stick it
Speaker 2: to the people who doubted them, people like Eric this
Speaker 2: bizarre Cess Spice combination. I mean, you got to check
Speaker 2: out the YouTube. You've got to check out the YouTube.
Speaker 2: But they did the old thing with the sent out
Speaker 2: the tweet. I'm not being we can't see what the
Speaker 2: rounds tweet is based on what we're seeing around. But no,
Speaker 2: that was the whole thing, the old, the old screen
Speaker 2: grab of all the game preview picks, and there it is,
Speaker 2: Cess Spike Sesspike is picking a sixteen thirteen Steelers win,
Speaker 2: and it just you know, Mark, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what else to say, but I'll throw it to you.
Speaker 4: I largely handed the operation over to the extremely knowledgeable
Speaker 4: spice Rack in this case. You know, I let him
Speaker 4: make some of you know, if he if he feels strongly,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with it.
Speaker 3: I would say, that's.
Speaker 5: All right there, Brandon Staley, your name's on it. Let's
Speaker 5: take no it is.
Speaker 4: But I would say that's a bad job by the
Speaker 4: by the Browns with that tweet, because I get those
Speaker 4: things all the time. It's like when everyone picked Team
Speaker 4: A to win. I mean, I'm a part of that.
Speaker 2: Crew that about.
Speaker 3: Half the people picked Cleveland though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand it, but Brown social media needs
Speaker 5: to work on it. Half the people picked Cleveland in
Speaker 5: a game between two six and three teams.
Speaker 2: All that points out is that, and look, Nick Shook's there,
Speaker 2: he picked his home town team by Tom. But let's
Speaker 2: just let's call a spade a spade. You know, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna hand over the operation to someone else, Mark,
Speaker 2: maybe somebody that's capable, because it looks like spice Rack
Speaker 2: might be in over his head.
Speaker 4: I think spice Rack went like, you know, fourteen and
Speaker 4: one the week before, so I don't you know, we're
Speaker 4: you know, it's more than learning.
Speaker 2: Check the data on that as well. It sounds like
Speaker 2: something let's set the classic Sessler inflation, right.
Speaker 5: I think what you really need to do is go
Speaker 5: check out my picks on game debut, Mark, and you'll
Speaker 5: see I picked the Browns and maybe I'm the biggest
Speaker 5: Browns fan now. In the Around the NFL podcast, we
Speaker 5: got rid of your old creep creepy quarterback, and uh,
Speaker 5: I'm on the train. I picked them in a nice
Speaker 5: little victory way to go.
Speaker 4: Greg, You're a valiant individual and there's no end to that,
Speaker 4: to that ability of yours.
Speaker 2: Greg. Does the name Barry Horowitz mean anything to you?
Speaker 5: Actually?
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can look him up on wikiped the real ones.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff. I gotta go catch a bird
Speaker 2: and I'll see you guys on Wednesday we'll be back.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a holiday week here in the States,
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving on Thursday, so the schedule for us actually is
Speaker 2: pretty similar. Now it's different actually, because the NFL must
Speaker 2: own every day possible, especially during the holiday season. So
Speaker 2: we got we're gonna do our full preview of week
Speaker 2: twelve on the Wednesday show, and then Thursday we will
Speaker 2: enjoy time with our families and watch all the football.
Speaker 2: And then Friday, we'll have you caught up to date
Speaker 2: with the recaps of the Thanksgiving games and also the
Speaker 2: Black Friday Affair, the very very Black Friday Affair of
Speaker 2: the New York Jets against the Miami Dolphins, and of
Speaker 2: course the Flagship Show will return again on Sunday. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's the schedule, Sestag. You're back in the saddle and
Speaker 2: there's no getting off.
Speaker 4: Baby, I'm in control, Sez the cal