WEBVTT - Time for a Definition

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>forward thinking. Welcome to forward thinking, everybody. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland and I am joined here by my co

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<v Speaker 1>hosts of They are second to none. Would you introduce yourselves?

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<v Speaker 1>Not after that? Come on, Hi, I'm Lauren foc Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe McCormick here with our co host Punny Boo boo,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. We are we're talking about time

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<v Speaker 1>today and what is time? And why is it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to really explain what time is? And why are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing a podcast about it? Anyway? Well, hey, y'all, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you a question. Sure, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>just put your put your thinking helmets on you, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do. Don't get hurt. Um. Before a second passes,

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<v Speaker 1>half a second has to pass, right, yes, the full

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<v Speaker 1>two of them? Actually yeah, I cannot pass until half

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<v Speaker 1>a second has been right, but before half of that

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<v Speaker 1>second passes, a quarter of the seconds two of them

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, right, and so you can't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>half a second until the quarter is right. Sure, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>repeat this process. Okay, does time ever passed? Having down

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<v Speaker 1>the the amount of time saying like so we're asking

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<v Speaker 1>what the smallest unit, what what the quantum particle of

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<v Speaker 1>tina is? Yeah, you kind of have to because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or is there one? Well, well, for instance, we all

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<v Speaker 1>remember I don't, well maybe you don't. I remember from

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<v Speaker 1>my days in the physical science classes and elementary school

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<v Speaker 1>being told that the atom was the basic building block

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<v Speaker 1>of matter, and that that was essentially as essentially as

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<v Speaker 1>small as you can go. We're lying to children. Even

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<v Speaker 1>at that time they knew. I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>we discovered sub atomic particles. Since I'm not that old,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to pollute your innocent little brain the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of quarks and yeah, bossons and things of that nature. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's they just didn't want me to really understand particle physics,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. And maybe like learning that Santa Claus isn't

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<v Speaker 1>real what Joe, I don't know, physics is like learning

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<v Speaker 1>that Santa Claus is real personally. But anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that the point magic is possible, kids, The point

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<v Speaker 1>being that you know, you learned that you can divide

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<v Speaker 1>things into ever smaller amounts, but there has to at

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<v Speaker 1>some point be yeah, the bottom level, right, people are

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with strings and stuff like that, right, strength theory, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and so theoretically, based upon our understanding of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>as it stands right now, the standard model of the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>we consider the smallest theoretically measurable length to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Planck distance. What distance? The Planck Planck length? Alright, So

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<v Speaker 1>Planck length is, in theory, the smallest measurable distance that

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<v Speaker 1>we would ever be able to measure. This is assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that we were ever able to build a measuring device

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<v Speaker 1>precise enough to measure a plock. There is nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>we have remotely capable of measuring a distance that's small.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea is that you could not measure anything

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than that. Ever, it's the smallest distance possible, the

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<v Speaker 1>plank distance you're talking about. Let's break this down to

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<v Speaker 1>the physics this so the plant distance, right, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the it's the shortest distance I believe if I'm corrected,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes any sense in the standard model of physics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, going going shorter? You the math doesn't work, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. Our our model breaks down, it doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit anymore. And so what what is pluck time?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that relate to plant distance? Pluck time is

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of time it would take a photon to

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<v Speaker 1>travel across plot distance at the speed of light. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's what's plank distance? Pluck distance all at one point. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one point six times ten to the negative

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five meters. So it makes Yeah, I run into

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<v Speaker 1>that kind figure all the time. They huge orders of magnitude,

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than anything we could detect in any way. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it would make a nanometer seem enormous by comparison. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>a nanometer is one billionth of a meter. And then

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<v Speaker 1>so you imagine something going the fastest a thing can

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<v Speaker 1>possibly go across that distance exactly. That's that that makes sense, right,

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<v Speaker 1>plock time. If you if you're going at the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light, nothing, as far as we know, according to

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<v Speaker 1>our model of the universe, can move faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of lights. That's as fast as you can possibly go.

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<v Speaker 1>So as fast as you can possibly go across the

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<v Speaker 1>shortest distance you could possibly go, therefore must be the

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<v Speaker 1>shortest amount of time possible with the smallest unit of tik. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing to our essentially flawed mathematical understanding of the universe. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I mean, that does make sense if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're saying, this is the fastest anything can go,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the smallest amount of space that's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>then having something travel that space would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the smallest amount of time by definition, because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go faster, and you can't be smaller. Therefore

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<v Speaker 1>that unit of time has to be the smallest amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time possible. Okay, so does this concept help us

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<v Speaker 1>define time? Because no, no, because we're because how do

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<v Speaker 1>we think on that scale? That scale? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>great for math. Mathematically, it's fantastic because again it fits

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<v Speaker 1>our standard model of the universe. But in any meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>discussion that you know, I can't come up to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and say, hey, how much plucked time has passed?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the last time we chatted. That's not meaningful, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we got to figure out another way to define time.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Einstein do it? The standard story is that

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<v Speaker 1>he basically said, and we're paraphrasing here, that time is

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<v Speaker 1>what clock's measure, which is kind of a joke. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a circular. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joke. On the fact that for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't seem to define time in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't include the concept of time. All our definitions are circular,

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<v Speaker 1>right right at just like a clock. Oh, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get one now, Lauren just shakes her head disapprovingly.

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<v Speaker 1>But there there are concepts like this that are that

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<v Speaker 1>are useful. But you know, there it makes them difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. You know, how do you the old one? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you define quality without invoking the idea of quality? Sure? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes this whole This again a circular argument. If

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<v Speaker 1>everything is subjective, If if this thing that we experience

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially subjective, then how do you define it? And

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<v Speaker 1>if it's if it's a point where you know, none

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<v Speaker 1>of us can can easily explain how this stuff happens,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how is time possible for our understanding? Time is

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<v Speaker 1>something that moves in one direction, it's a sequence of events.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Newton proposed that it was just a series

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<v Speaker 1>of moments that would stack on to one another, that

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<v Speaker 1>was standard across everything, because at that time there was

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to believe other wise that you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>time as it passed on Earth is the same as

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<v Speaker 1>time as it passes anywhere else, and it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>where you are, what you're doing. It's this sequence of

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<v Speaker 1>events that continues on until infinity. Yeah, because he never

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until Einstein that we started talking about how how

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<v Speaker 1>space and time are kind of part of the same

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<v Speaker 1>fabric and that they're fudged around by things like gravity

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<v Speaker 1>and speed and all that fun stuff. Well, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>got here a pretty interesting working not a definition, but

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<v Speaker 1>but a place to start when thinking about Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is from a Nova transcript I've got here and it's

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Gallison of Harvard University UM, and what he says

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<v Speaker 1>in this program is, um, we're always looking for things

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<v Speaker 1>that repeat over and over again, and that repetition, that

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<v Speaker 1>cycle of things forms a clock. I can understand. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all time becomes is some repetitive process, something we can count,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, for like the four seasons or the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>the sun seeming to come up over the horizon sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. So that's interesting to me because what that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to suggest is that while it's not circular in

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't rely on the idea of time to

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<v Speaker 1>define time, it does make time utterly subjective. Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in a previous episode, you know about the

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<v Speaker 1>physics of relativity and time being actually subjective. It's truly

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<v Speaker 1>an experience. Yeah, Like, for instance, if you were if

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<v Speaker 1>you lived on a different planet, if you had never

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<v Speaker 1>lived on Earth, if you lived on a different planet

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<v Speaker 1>that had a different uh cycle, if the day night

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<v Speaker 1>cycle took place. Maybe it's a planet spun faster or

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<v Speaker 1>around the sun. Yeah, so maybe maybe it's let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, well beyond that, I mean, but that would

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<v Speaker 1>all depend upon the size of the planet, right, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that, let's say that it's a twenty hour day,

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<v Speaker 1>not twenty four hour day. Your concept of a day

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<v Speaker 1>would be different from my concept of a day. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were born somehow just floating in space with

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<v Speaker 1>no actual guiding experience, then day and night would be

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<v Speaker 1>meaningless to you entirely. You would have to track time

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<v Speaker 1>some other way. In fact, I kind of wonder about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that somehow, as a thought experiment, you were

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<v Speaker 1>born in the middle of space. You're just floating free there.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got everything you need to survive. But but how

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<v Speaker 1>would you Yeah, you're you're in two thousand one. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Also also strock Tostra is just playing constantly in the background. No,

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<v Speaker 1>nor so you're in the right. So you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your you're put into the zone that that is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What Lauren? Do you know I have? I have absolutely no, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Superman too anyway, the yeah, your general's odd. But General

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<v Speaker 1>z Odd wasn't alone. He had other people there. He

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<v Speaker 1>could he could track time by the number of times

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<v Speaker 1>his his idiotic uh yeah, how many times he grunted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he tracks time. But no, no, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were if you were suspended in space and you you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't on a planet, you're not in in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>orbiting some sort of other body, how would you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be something internal? If you don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>external around you, then you would turn to the number

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<v Speaker 1>of times that your heart beats, or or the number

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<v Speaker 1>of times the blink you blink, or etcetera. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just any and if you have a iPod up

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<v Speaker 1>there the number of times blink whetity two comes on shuffle. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of interesting. I like that you object

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<v Speaker 1>to my choice of band, which was only based upon

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<v Speaker 1>the fact the idea of blinking. I get very well

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<v Speaker 1>what you did there and Joe is bothered by all

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<v Speaker 1>the small things. As it turns out, well, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting if you try to look up, you know, look

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<v Speaker 1>up scientific definitions of what is a second in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of science, it's some it's you know, they'll say, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the time it takes uh this atom to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's some huge random number that they use as

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<v Speaker 1>the constant to base that on, which, to me is

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of one of those funny indicators that are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>second is completely arbitrary, just like what it's Our day

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<v Speaker 1>length got divided into some relatively stable, manageable pieces, manageable

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<v Speaker 1>pieces like hours and minutes and seconds, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>a second is. There's no second in the universe right right,

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<v Speaker 1>And our measurement of time here on Earth is all

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<v Speaker 1>based on the oscillation of very small things. It's based

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<v Speaker 1>on on waveforms that we can more or less detect

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<v Speaker 1>through mechanical means. Sure, like like the vibration of an

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<v Speaker 1>ion that's cool to near absolute zero. Yes, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the quantum clock is based off of. The quantum clock

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<v Speaker 1>measures time, or the way we measure time with the

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<v Speaker 1>quantum clock. Is we super cool? A an aluminum ion

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<v Speaker 1>to near absolute zero. Absolute zero is a concept where

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<v Speaker 1>we essentially have no molecular movement. Right There's there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>moving because really heat, when you get down to it,

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<v Speaker 1>is molecules moving around, and the hotter things are, the

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<v Speaker 1>more they move around in general. So when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>going to near absolute zero, there's almost no molecular movement.

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<v Speaker 1>You measure the the vibrations of this alunium ion, which

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<v Speaker 1>are at a very regular rate, and you're using a

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<v Speaker 1>very very precise ultra violet laser that's doing this at

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible frequency. So every second, it's measuring this hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of times in order to determine, uh specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>how long a second is. And the idea is that

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<v Speaker 1>by doing that you have the world's most accurate clock,

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<v Speaker 1>which is accurate to what one second for every three

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million years. You're not gonna you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>worry about losing one for three seven billion years. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good clock. But it's so funny because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most accurate possible way of measuring this utterly arbitrary quantity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's arbitrary, but it's still meaning. It's it's meaning

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<v Speaker 1>and especially since I mean, your your average risk watch,

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<v Speaker 1>which works off of a quartz crystal um, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose maybe fifteen seconds a month. Really high precision

0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.160
<v Speaker 1>expensive watches lose maybe ten seconds a year. To be ere,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have wasted those anyway, I don't really consider

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<v Speaker 1>them losing because I what am I gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>those fifteen seconds? Probably, you know, maybe download another movie,

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<v Speaker 1>go on a tangent on a podcast, could do that,

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<v Speaker 1>could do that, maybe make a reference to to another

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<v Speaker 1>another pop band, just to watch jos reaction. But yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's again we're getting back to the whole idea. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an arbitrary amount, and if you were to step

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<v Speaker 1>outside the human experience, it's largely meaningless. But inside the

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<v Speaker 1>human experience it's meaningful. I mean, just like other other

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<v Speaker 1>ways that we've tweaked time are meaningful to us in

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<v Speaker 1>a specific context, Like Joe. I mean, there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a something that we do with time every year that

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're just dying to talk about. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we introduced, Oh run around World War One? For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason? Why don't we talk about that? Okay? Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you're talking about daylight saving time. Thank you Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, for all you listening, it is saving singular. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds totally wrong, doesn't stop Joe from saying savings

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<v Speaker 1>every time he talks to me about this. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about daylight saving time a lot. So yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>story of this goes, and this is the funny part,

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<v Speaker 1>because hey, Lauren, how did daylight saving time get started?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know? I think it had something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with with with farmers needing extra time in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go, farmers. Everybody thinks this.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this, Jonathan, didn't you think this. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was because our robot overlords came down and told

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<v Speaker 1>us to switch our clocks back. No, you're you're totally

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets this wrong. This is that's I thought exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was farmers, farmers need extra times, something about yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not farms. Huh. No, apparently that Well, from what

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<v Speaker 1>I've read, daylight's saving time or something like it had

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<v Speaker 1>been proposed a bunch of times by people throughout the years,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first time it was widely implemented was during

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<v Speaker 1>World War One, when um various powers on each side,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think, great Britain and Germany implemented daylight saving

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<v Speaker 1>time in order to save energy, specifically coal. That coal

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<v Speaker 1>and energy were about the same thing. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even candles were pretty pretty expensive, and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>wax was not easy to come by. Well, yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, they were using electric lights or whatever it. Uh,

0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they were burning them into the evening hours and that

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<v Speaker 1>was wasting energy during wartime, Yeah, which you could use

0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that energy to kill people rather than which is much better. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>during war, it's kind of necessary at least to the

0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.480
<v Speaker 1>people fighting the war. That or maybe not fighting, but

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<v Speaker 1>the people waging the war. Yeah, that they wanted that priority,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they instituted this. And uh, contrary to what

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<v Speaker 1>all of us seemed to think before we learn about this,

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<v Speaker 1>farmers hated this because if you actually think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the farmers they have to get up early and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do their chores. You know, they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do their chores along with sunrise, because there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that they get up early to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the daylight, and because a lot of crops have

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<v Speaker 1>to be harvested, and it's some specific time frame that

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with like the do point in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>or or or or caring for animals, like there are

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<v Speaker 1>certain that the animals are accustomed to a particular cycle

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and so you have your cycle as a

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<v Speaker 1>farmer has to match the cycle of the crops and

0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>animals that you care for, right but so so you

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<v Speaker 1>so some politicians come in and say, well, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna institute daylight saving time, um, and we're gonna steal

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<v Speaker 1>all the light from your morning and we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the evening where we can use it better

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<v Speaker 1>to wage war. Um. So the farmers suddenly they get

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<v Speaker 1>up to do their morning chores and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Picasso's blue period. Um. Yeah, even if they even if

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<v Speaker 1>they were keeping their time to the time of the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>because you could argue that, so why does the farmer

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<v Speaker 1>even care about what the clock says? The farmer could

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<v Speaker 1>get up whenever the sun comes up, which is true,

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<v Speaker 1>except that everything else is working on the clocks. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the transportation system is working from the clocks.

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<v Speaker 1>And if as a farmer, you have to get your

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<v Speaker 1>goods out to somebody else, right, yeah, you missed the

0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>train and everything is exactly. That means that the train

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<v Speaker 1>is coming an hour earlier than what it did before

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<v Speaker 1>daylight saving time was instituted. Then you have to rush again.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get up earlier than what you would

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<v Speaker 1>normally get up. You know again, Otherwise clock wouldn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because you have to deal with the outside world

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<v Speaker 1>that it matters. So there there are tons of people

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<v Speaker 1>around the world who just give a big thumbs down.

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<v Speaker 1>Thumbs down there, I was seeing big thumbs down to

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<v Speaker 1>daylight saving time, like the state of Arizona. State of

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona just won't do it. I know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>some Canadian provinces. I think, is it Saskatchewan. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to feel bad if from remembering the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 1>But some Canadian provinces they just know I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Russia as a whole, They're like, no, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that too cold here. Time doesn't even pass. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>stay the same seven. So that's funny though that when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I assumed daylight saving time before

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the misconception about farmers. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>assumed it had something to do with like science, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like the planet this actually it has some meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>that we must do because of his like leap here.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something like leap here right where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to borrow an hour by part of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and give it back another part of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's telling me a lot about Joe and his child

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<v Speaker 1>child sense. That's that's you know, that's what makes well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you look at it, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, Yeah, weren't we taught uh that was the

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<v Speaker 1>smallest building block of matter? Yeah? Well, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is all kind of illustrating how tricky it

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<v Speaker 1>is to talk about time in any way that is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that is meaningful from outside the human experience. But then again,

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we all live in the human experience, so what do

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<v Speaker 1>we care. Uh, here's what I want to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>want I want our listeners to want I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Forward Thinking episode about time because it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe did a great job on that. Two. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go to the fw thinking dot com website

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<v Speaker 1>and check that out. We've got some blog posts, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got the video series, we've got this audio podcast, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got lots of other stuff there, and we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation with us to talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>is it about the future that get that has you

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<v Speaker 1>excited or confused. Maybe there's something about the future that

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<v Speaker 1>you're just what are we going to do in fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years when dot dot dot. We want to know those questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to open this up and have a

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<v Speaker 1>real conversation with you guys, so we welcome you to

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<v Speaker 1>be take part in that. We are really eager to

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<v Speaker 1>have this and uh, thanks guys so much for listening

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<v Speaker 1>and being a part of this so far. We're really

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<v Speaker 1>excited and we cannot wait to really dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>future even deeper than we already have. Guys, we're gonna

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