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Speaker 1: We see guys who played four years. We see guys

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Speaker 1: another question? Should less guys get in? Should players and

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Speaker 1: page with Chris Miller, who was my quarterback at that time,

424
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 1: and man, we just started off on fire, and uh

425
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: it just went completely through that. That that nineteen ninety

426
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: to five season, which is the season I called the

427
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: Year of the White Receiver in the NFL because you

428
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: had five or six guys that went over one hundred

429
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: catches fifteen hundred plush yards and uh, yeah, it was.

430
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: It was a big year for for white receivers. That's

431
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: what's ups. So So when did when did y'all become

432
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: like that that greatest on turfing? And what you say, like, well,

433
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: what's the moments or the time where he was like, man,

434
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: this sit right here, we got a real chance with

435
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: something special. Man, Like, when did y'all become that? Well,

436
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: I say, from ninety four till about ninety eight, Man,

437
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: we were terrible. I mean we were pretty much the

438
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: Uh it was between um, let's see Cincinnati and I

439
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: believe the New Orleans Saints to where the crown of

440
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: the losing his team of teams of the nineteen nineties

441
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: thus far, and uh, Marshall fought he was over in Indy.

442
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: He was doing this thing. Uh, you know, Tory Hope,

443
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: he was in college at that time. No one knew

444
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: who Kurt Warner was. He was absolutely he was probably

445
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, doing this thing. Um. From there, you know,

446
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: you can you can start seeing some of the signings.

447
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: First of all, you you bring in Marshall from Indy,

448
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: and right there, I knew we were legit. I mean,

449
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: he just he just had that ability to run in

450
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: between the tackles, outside the tackles, and then he can

451
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: line up and play receiver. He could have been a

452
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: third receiver in the NFL if he wanted to. Just yeah,

453
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: his knowledge is his ability to read a defense and

454
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: just just his awareness of the game. Man. I don't

455
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: think it was matt by a lot of people I've

456
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: played with. But you know, we draft Tory Hope and

457
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: Tory just just tore up the acc his senior year.

458
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: And you bring in an Adam Adam Timberman from Green Bay.

459
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: We already had big old, big old pace. And Trent Green.

460
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean Trent Green was a guy that came back

461
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: to the Rams with Coach Marks as the offensive coordinator

462
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: at that time, and he was given the keys to

463
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: what I called was a rose Royce and that summer man.

464
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Just on paper, I thought we were a legit we

465
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: were a legit offense because it was the first time

466
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: in training camp in my five years that I had

467
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: been there, that we could score pretty easily on our

468
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: defense team. Up to that point, we were a defensive

469
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: football team. And being able to move the ball easy,

470
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: being able to score on our defense with ease, that

471
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: let me know that we had a group of guys

472
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: that we were ready to do something within our own

473
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: division at that time, and I was excited about it.

474
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's what's ups. So, like you said,

475
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: having having Marshall and there, you felt like that kind

476
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: of took some of the pressure off you, because I mean,

477
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: before that this shit it was it's your show, you

478
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, bring them to guys, And you

479
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: felt like that kind of took on the pressure off you. Absolutely,

480
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: I always thought that up to that point, Uh, the

481
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: rams were only interesting. Uh you know, just having probably

482
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: one offensive superstar at that time. You talk about Eric Dixon,

483
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't much around him until you brought

484
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: in Henry Eller, and you know, you had Drown Betters

485
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: the first year, you know, two years before I got there,

486
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: and he was just the guy you give it to

487
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: him thirty five thirty six times a game and let

488
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: it doing sting. And for me, it was like that

489
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: for me two seasons ninety five and ninety six. And

490
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: that word is on you, man, I mean, because you know,

491
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: teams can can roll that coverage over to you. They

492
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: can beat you up there the line of scrimmage and

493
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: have another guy waiting for you there. But when you

494
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: go out and drafted Tory Hope, man, that just let

495
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: you know that. Okay, now we're trying to win, we're

496
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: trying to do something a little different than what we

497
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: had done in the past. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Teams had

498
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: them two receivers. Man, it's it's now. We now we

499
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: got to talk and meetings on Wednesday and Thursday. We

500
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: got to really get this plan together. They got one

501
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: receiver and you know, I get the game plan, coach.

502
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get some breakfast, man, like we're gonna doubly.

503
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: We already know we're gonna doubly. Main't too much to

504
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: talk about. Whoever the other guy is. You got the

505
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: one on one and that's what it is. You know

506
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so absolutely you bring a Tory hard

507
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: on the other side. It definitely, it definitely changed the

508
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: playing field. But who are some of the corners. Who

509
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: are some of the corners used to like to go

510
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: against back then? Man, oh man, I had I had

511
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: a budding rivalry with Ashley Ambrose, Yeah, Ray Cannon, Yeah,

512
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: guys like uh. It was a couple of guys, Tim McDonald,

513
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: Merton Hanks, Eric Davis. Man, these guys, you know, they

514
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: played a lot of football and a lot of meaningful football,

515
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: and you know, we would just go at it when

516
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: we played, I mean down in Atlanta, anytime we went

517
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. These guys who are in our division

518
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: and we just go at it. There's there's a lot

519
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: of guys that are under radar guys but were really

520
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: great corners. Eric Allen's one of them. Man. Uh, you

521
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: know who could read routes and jump routes and you

522
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: had to be really careful with your route running versus

523
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: guys like like Eric Allen. So he was in New

524
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Orleans at the time, and and man, you see how

525
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: teams started to really adjust their drafts versus what we

526
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: were doing. As far as the greatest showing turface concern. Man,

527
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: they started, you know, drafting heavy on defense because they

528
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to slow that thing down. So um,

529
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, I think we kind of affected other teams

530
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: that way and made them made them look at defense

531
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: a little bit different. And at the same time a

532
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: lot of teams were trying to duplicate what we were

533
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: doing on offense. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I say how it

534
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: affected me. I started off, you know, I started off

535
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: as my brother little you know what I'm saying, guinea pig,

536
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: throw me the ball and I'm running slant. Throw it

537
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: or he working on his quarterback running slant. I'm just

538
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: the guinea pig, right. I kind of started off thinking

539
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a running back. I'm a running back,

540
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: many Smith be a running back. And then when I

541
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: see that greatest on turf, oh, I turned to a receiver,

542
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: like I'm a receiver. Now I want to cass the rock.

543
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: So I definitely remember that. Man, it put receiver in

544
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: my heart watching the offense for show. But who's some

545
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: of the offenses You watch nine Days, man, and you

546
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: feel like they hit they got the quarterback, they got

547
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: the system, they got the two receivers, the running back

548
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: with some of the offense that that remind you of

549
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: that greatest sh on turf right now, Well, you gotta

550
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: start off with Kansas City, man, I mean just with

551
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: U with Mahomes being the quarterback. He can make every throw.

552
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: He's smart, and you know with having a combination of

553
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: an offensive qarter, they're like Andy reid Man. I mean,

554
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, there there's no ceiling on what he can do.

555
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: And you know when he has guys on the perimeter

556
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: that are fast, Hardman being one of them, uh Threke

557
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Evans three Hill being being the other guy. These guys

558
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: are fast man and they take the top off the defense.

559
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: And at the same time, sometimes you have to commit

560
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: two guys to these guys and then you know you

561
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: got a tight end like Kelsey Man. It's it's it's like,

562
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, choose your poison. I think the only thing,

563
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the only difference between that group and what we had

564
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: is that you know, we can turn around and give

565
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: it to Marshall twenty five times. We can, we can

566
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: we can go three tight ends and have one receiver

567
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: out there, and we can just really punish you without

568
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: running game if you want it to Um. But you

569
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: know when you look at Kansas City, man, I mean

570
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: I think they they're the closest thing that I see

571
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: to what we were doing. Yeah, that's that's what's up.

572
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: That's you know. As soon as I ask the question,

573
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: that's what I got on my head, I'm like, gotta

574
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: be the Chiefs. That's that's that's the closest thing that

575
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: we've seen or is it any wide house in Nowaday's

576
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: game to remind you of Isaac Bruce. Um, there are

577
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: some guys I love watching Keenan Allen. I love watching him. Man,

578
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's under the radar, but he makes

579
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: such big plays be hot and uh Arizona. I mean,

580
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: he just does every man. I mean I don't think

581
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: he's the biggest guy, but he plays really big, right,

582
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: not the fastest neither correct. He's a deep threat, yes.

583
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: And one thing about him, you know, uh similar to me,

584
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: is he can get in and out of his breaks,

585
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, without really giving a defensive back or safety

586
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: any kind of body language, which is key. So um,

587
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: and he makes the tough catch, He makes those congested

588
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: catches man that you know, every every team wants a

589
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: guy like that. So guys like that, And I really

590
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: like the new guy coming in, DeVante Smith. I think

591
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: he's He's one of those guys that I feel like,

592
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, his ability and what he did in the

593
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: SEC can translate translate over because you know he'll be

594
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: playing the same personnel once he really gets seasoned in

595
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: the league, so um similar to him. I think he's

596
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: very similar to Marvin Harrison as well. So those are

597
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: the type guys I feel like that very similar to

598
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: what I used to do. Definitely, definitely see when I

599
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: think Isasy Bruce, I think quickness, speed and rout running

600
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: and catches finishes right, So my boat, uh quickness, slash speed.

601
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: You don't know if they quick or if they fast.

602
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: They just moving and then they got them crazy routes

603
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: minus O'Dell and then the little old Dell's is justin. Jefferson,

604
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, and DeVante Smith, they all in that same

605
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: kind of boat to me, and I put them in

606
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: that Isaac Bruce boat man. They like the Isaac Bruce

607
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: type type receivers. So so when you're going against those guys,

608
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: what do you do? What's your what's your mindset? Are

609
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you trying to get your hands on them. I hate

610
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: going against them, con them, know them the worst kind

611
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: of I try to go against but me honestly, I'm

612
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go off that speed if he can

613
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: run by me, and I'm I'm gonna try to I'm

614
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: taking phase. I'm always taking phase away. But if he

615
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: can run by me, by me, I'm gonna be deep

616
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: first on my mind. But if he can't really run

617
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: by me, I'm gonna try to get my hands on

618
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: them quick and damn near being trail and not even

619
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: really worried about him. I got I got, I gotta

620
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: be like a cheetah he break, I gotta break type bale.

621
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: So it just matter, man. And honestly, if I if

622
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to Isaac Bruce, I ain't gonna leave out

623
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: the meeting room and too. Coach say, all right, were

624
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: doubling them, So yeah, we're doubling them right on this.

625
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna double them right on this. We're gonna I'm

626
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: gonna get it straight. I might even let let the

627
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: scout team receiver catch a couple of them, just so

628
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: I could tell where like see way, look, if we

629
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: don't double them as I do, shit like that is

630
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: I do shit on pers dictate the game playing myself, right,

631
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I see it ain't gonna work. See, it ain't gonna work.

632
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna try to do. So really, I'm

633
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure they don't get behind me. I'm

634
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna try to just keep guys like I'm gonna try

635
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: to keep you in front of me. And I'm gonna

636
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Speaker 1: just trying to be a great tackler that week. Man,

637
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: That's really what I'm gonna trying to do for sure. Yea,

638
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, man, So twenty twenty Hall of Fame. Man,

639
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Speaker 1: the time is almost here. What we got another month

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Speaker 1: before we before. Look, I'm saying weak because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there. So we got another month before we

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Speaker 1: out there and uh and camp man, So the speech ready,

643
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: you know what. Things like that. It kind of rights itself, man,

644
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: because you know, when you think about your journey, you

645
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: know you just can't stop in the sixteen seasons that

646
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you played in the National Football League. It's everything before

647
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: from from little league Pop Warner to uh your days

648
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: uh in high school, from high school to junior college

649
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: to Memphis uh to to the beginning of the Los

650
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams to the Saint Louis Rams and too when

651
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I actually finished playing. So and like I keep saying,

652
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: they were there were pockets and people there who are

653
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: strategically placed. I believe Divine League placed that. That really

654
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Speaker 1: helped me. Man. So it's just it's just more of

655
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: just really thinking them at a public venue and having

656
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: that moment to really recognize those people fans, friends, family

657
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: and fans. That really helped you to develop to the

658
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: to the football player that you are. Yeah, right right, So,

659
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: so Hall of Fame, know Deon Deon say, he said

660
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: they're putting everybody in. Uh, you know what I'm saying,

661
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: what to you? To you? What what make a Hall

662
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: of Famer? Man? What you gotta do to be a

663
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? Well, you know, the first thing as

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Speaker 1: a football player, Um, you know, the first thing that

665
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: we look at, you know, is we're looking We're not

666
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: looking for you to fear, to fear us. We're looking

667
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Speaker 1: for you to respect us. From the moment you walk

668
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: in that locker room. It's about respect. To the moment

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Speaker 1: that we're on the field competing against one one or another,

670
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: It's about respect. Do I respect this guy or if

671
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: you're my teammate and you're cornerback and I'm a wide receiver.

672
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: You know it? You know, can I respect the way

673
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: you play on the field? Could do you compete? You know,

674
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: if you don't compete, I don't think we're gonna have

675
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: much of a friendship off the field. So Number one,

676
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: that respect part of it. It's their number two. Um,

677
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: your impact? Can you make impactful plays? Did you make

678
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: impactful plays? Well? People can? Can the story be told

679
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: about you about the game of football and include you

680
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: or not include you? So you know, questions like that

681
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: has to be answered, and then you know, you have

682
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: to look at your stats. For me, as far as

683
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the wide receivers concerned, man, you know, my question is

684
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: did they have to double this guy? And if they did,

685
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I think that puts him on the path to the

686
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And then if they doubled him, did

687
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: he still produce? Uh? You know, does he still have

688
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe nine hundred thousand catches, his yards per catch?

689
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean those are things that I look at personally,

690
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: and you know, just the end result of it. What

691
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: did you do? Okay, did you go to playoffs? Did

692
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: you make impactful plays in the playoffs? Did you go

693
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: to Super Bowls? Did you play in Super Bowls? Did

694
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: you make impactful plays in Super Bowls? So when you

695
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: had to follow around this where you had to follow

696
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: this guy or pick him up from the airplane, you know,

697
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: when he came to Denver or when he came to

698
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: Los Angeles? Did you have to go with this guy

699
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: everywhere he went? And how did you do against that guy?

700
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, these things are you know, these things should

701
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: be the criteria for guys who are being in trine.

702
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: Do I think they're putting guys in that shouldn't be there?

703
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think these guys are deserving

704
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: of the way they played the game. Um, you know,

705
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: my only my only issue is, you know, how do

706
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: you determine the first ballot versus a none first ballot?

707
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: So that's the only question I would have. Yeah, So

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00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: that so your locker room presence, like if you're the

709
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: leader on the team and the confidence of our team

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00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: is bred through this person, did that got anything to

711
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: do with being in a Hall of Famer? I think

712
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: it does. I mean it's one of those boxes that

713
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: can be checked. You know, how how did you impact

714
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: your locker room in a positive way or a negative way?

715
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: When when when you're on that you know the league

716
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: and the sixteen game season, it's a roller coaster. So

717
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: when you're down at the bottom, you know, how how

718
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: did you make the team respond? Did you did you

719
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: salt with them or did you remind them that you know,

720
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: this is a roller coaster. We're gonna be right back

721
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: at the top pretty soon. And did you do that

722
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: through your plate or just encouraging your team? So could

723
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: you stand up in front of your guys and when

724
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: you start speaking, will they all be be quiet? They

725
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: may not agree with you, but they can respect you, know,

726
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: giving you the opportunity absolutely, can you get take that

727
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: microphone and speaking to your guys exactly? Mane, every time

728
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Speaker 1: Prim say this shit, I'd be wanting to call him

729
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: ask like problem when we were talking about Prime? What

730
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying? He must be man, what I'm saying because

731
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Speaker 1: everybody I see every year, the five or the seven

732
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: guys who I see, I'm like they hall of famers, Right, Yeah,

733
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't know, I'm

734
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Speaker 1: just you know, how so how long how long did

735
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: you have to wait to get in? How I waited.

736
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: I finished playing in twenty and ten and my first

737
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: year of eligibility was two thousand and fifteen, and basically, yeah,

738
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: I wait, I waited six seasons to get in. But

739
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: but but once again, man, we played for respect. And

740
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: you have selectors who have probably never put on a jockstrap,

741
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: let's just be real, and they barely they barely know.

742
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: They may know a beat writer for the Denver Broncos,

743
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: but no, you inside and out right within your same division,

744
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, you go play the Raiders. There's a there's

745
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: another beat writer. He doesn't know too much about you.

746
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't see you every day, so he

747
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: really can't really, you know, get to the podium and

748
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Speaker 1: say anything quite at the same level as the Denver

749
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Speaker 1: Broncos beat writer can about a key to leave. So

750
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of get that situation, man. So

751
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: that's why I'm thinking, you know, we got two former

752
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: players that are in the selection committee right now, and

753
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a room for a lot more because

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00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: I think you know, former players, right, former players, former

755
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators from offensive coordinators. They should be in the

756
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Speaker 1: room selecting guys, man, because they know I agree, I agree,

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Speaker 1: I agree, well, of course, leave got Hall of Fame dreams. Man,

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Speaker 1: I love talk to Hall of famers. I'm saying a

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Speaker 1: That's what's up hey, Isaac. I appreciate it, man. Congrats

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Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame. Congrats on everything. Man. I'm

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