1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie. 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: And today we are talking about being a boss, okay, 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: and I have none other than the biggest boss lady herself, 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Kimberly Blackwell. Oh my goodness. First of all, Kimberly, thank 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: you so much for come to sit on the council 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: me today. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: First of all, you called me and I was like, 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: cis will you do my podcast? I'm like, are you 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: kidding me? Like it was an honor to be asked. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm extremely proud of you. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: You know it. I say it all the time. 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: You give me all the time, and I'm just so 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: excited for all that's happening. And you know, I like 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: being a sideline spectator and watching your big life. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm just proud of you. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, thank you so much. I remember 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: when I first met you, DeAndre trist and a brother 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: of ours, ye shout out to you. What's up stylists 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: just amazing. I met him on Good Morning America because 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: he styles Robin Roberts when I was sould Tyler, and 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: that's how we got cool. And then you you came 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: in town and he's like, come have brunch with us 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: and that's the first time we met, and we ran 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: into each other a few times after that, and then 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Soul Train Awards around twenty twenty one, we ran each other. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: That's when we reconnected and the swap numbers. 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. What's interesting too, is 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: that I'm really big on energy. So for me at 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: lunch that day, I was kind of curious, Yeah, because 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: we vibed. And I'm very selective in where and how 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: I kind of you know, everybody will say, oh, Kim, 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: you know everybody, and I do know a lot of people, 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: but there aren't a lot of people that I will 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: take the time to nurture something meaningful. And for me, 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: when I saw you again, I was like, okay, and 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: we were able to spend some time together. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: You know, I have some great clients. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: You were worthy of an opportunity, and so we did 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: some business together. And from that I was just we 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: went to eat, yeah, and we yacked and yacked and that. 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I said, do you want me to I said, did 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you want to bring I know who you had in town? 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: You're like, no, just me and you. Yeah. I was like, 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: I get one. Yeah. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 3: You treat me like I'm talent. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, I am that person where I 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: am very humble. I know from where my best blessings flow. 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: And I, you know, stick and move very quietly and selectively, 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: and a lot of folks you will see me show 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: up places by myself. I don't need an entourage, lit 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: a lot of great friends. But and I've also learned 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: trick of the trade. What's that you get better things 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: without a plus one, ma'am. 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Free game, free game. 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: You don't always need a plus one. And I will 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: say that AM a lot of opportunities. 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate. 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: But I knew that evening when we had dinner, that 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: it would manifest into something that I cherish now as 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: a sisterhood. 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just appreciate you, like every time I call you. 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: You just first of all, the energy, like you said, 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the energy is top tier everything you do. I mean, 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: can y'all just look at the woman. 65 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Like, no, first of all, don't even so they were 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: keeping it real. I was like, so, what's the vibe tomorrow? 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: She was like, gir I haven't even gotten that far, 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: so you know, I didn't know what to wear. No, 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm coming to your beautiful home, right. But then you 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: walked outside, and I was like, oh, that's what we're 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: doing today, because you know, you got your own game. 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: You said the bar up you need. 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: So you know a fun fact and I told you so, 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: I am a hyper private person. We'll talk about that, 75 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: but I did. I said, I'm gonna give a little 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: this my girl. I'm gonna give a little bit to 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: her audience. But fun fact, I've always enjoyed expressing myself 78 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: through style. And so a lot of folks their first 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: job may have been McDonald's. Mine was retailed. So I 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: was working at TJ Max. I was wearing in that 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, uh, the gap. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: And so my. 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Freshman year of college, we had a magazine called the 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Happenings my freshman year, who was the best dress? 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: You? 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: I already know it. So being therein been doing like 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: what coming off from renaissance? 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Clearly we're still on the renaissance. Yes we are. Oh 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, I knew like and I literally went, okay, 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: what would Kim believe? 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: Hey, Kim came chielder day, Kim came chill with Kim still, 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: Kim came shield today again. I just you know, I 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of times you show up in 94 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: a way in which you express your energy. I knew 95 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: here I wanted to be very authentic. I knew I 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: wanted to be very comfortable. I'm actually a little bit 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: afraid because I'm like, if she gets me in an opera, 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: you know I needed to be prepared. 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: But I'm ready for you. Thank you, thank you so much. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: When I think about being a boss, the first song 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: that comes to mind is Independent by Destiny's Child. Oh 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: my women, Independent, So your hands. 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Up at come on, soft flex, come on, because girl, 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: I can't sing. 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: I was up screaming last night watching Beyonce. So my 106 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: notes a little off right now. But no, I want 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: to tell give them a little background of who you are, 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of people may not I mean even me, 109 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: like still like it's still like a mystery about you. 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Always I was like, it's just something about and I 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: love that you keep that mystique because that's what keeps 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: people curious, and you can just fly into the radar, 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: not people not knowing you. In the room was moving 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: the room saying. 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: One of the top questions is now what does she do? 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Literally? 117 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean literally, there is a lot by way of 118 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: how I spend my time as a business leader. You know, 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: I own and operate a business. I sait as an 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: LP as an investor, I'm a serial investor across various funds. 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm a corporate director and a publicly traded company. I 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: wear a lot of hats and also in a lot 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: of cases serve in a function of crises management and mitigation. 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: So a lot of the stuff that you all see 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: that you don't see me. 126 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: We don't. I might be there. Yeah, recently the gathering 127 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: spot that was a big public in the gathering spot 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: is so huge in our community, and you were very vital. 129 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: You know why. 130 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: There are a lot of lessons in that, and let's 131 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: talk about that, because I think that for me, what 132 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: happened was I was traveling, so I I didn't know 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: how things had hit the public airwaves and I had 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: come home from New York and a friend had sent 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: a DM and it had some stuff around it, and 136 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I knew both CEOs, but 137 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: I didn't like what I was seeing by way of 138 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: the media and as black business leaders, and these are 139 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: scale businesses. 140 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: These are not mom and pops. 141 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: It really hurt me at my core that that was 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: the narrative and that one. You know, we were at 143 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: odds publicly and that too. You know, it was a 144 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: merger and acquisition deal. I do a lot of things 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: around M and A and there are complications to that, 146 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: and so for me it was like you know, both CEOs. 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: I called Ryan Wilson first, and you know, it was 148 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: not to be involved. It was actually to check on T. K. 149 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Peterson to make sure that he was okay. And because 150 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: of the friendship that we have, he shared some things. 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: At the end, I am folks will tell you I'm 152 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: a vault. I value you know, confidence in folks being 153 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: able to share things privately. And I said, well, you 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: know what, I actually think that this is something that 155 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: could be resolved. I said, and if you're comfortable, because 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: I didn't want to break confidence, I'd ask you to 157 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: allow me to do what I do. And so he said, 158 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: you know, if you think you know it's worth your. 159 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Time, I'm open to it. 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: I call Ryan Glover. He called me right back. 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: And what I want to say about Ryan Glover is 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: that his baby is like my baby, Haley. 163 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: She goes to Syracuse. I love her to death. 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: But he and I did not know one another will 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: but you know, he felt comfortable. And you know, one 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: of the things I would say to folks is that 167 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: you know, I stand strongly on my reputation. Yes, and 168 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: what I hope it is is that I'm not missy. 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: To your point on privacy, I try to keep my 170 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: name out of a lot of things. But as a 171 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: business person, I'm shrew. But I'm also very compassionate as 172 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: a leader. And he immediately gave that opportunity and we 173 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: huddled up and for about nine or ten days. They 174 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: were very long days, but very meaningful days, and there 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: weren't a lot of people around. 176 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: T. K. 177 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson, Ryan Glover and myself. Wow, and we were 178 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: able to resolve it. And the bigger messages, you know, 179 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: Forbes had headlines million dollar miss and all these different things, 180 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: is that a lot of things can be resolved through communication. 181 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: And they wanted what was best for everyone, and I 182 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: told them, guys, the gathering spot, as you mentioned, you 183 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: know here in Atlanta, LA, you know across the country, 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 2: it is powerful in what they've built by way of community, 185 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: and so it meant that much to me. And always 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: I tell folks, I like to use my superpowers for 187 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: a greater good. If I could be a bridge to 188 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: see that happen because there are a lot of people 189 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: who look like us black folks. Sorry that I felt 190 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: like could have stepped in to help this out sooner. 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: And we have to understand that. 192 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: When we are putting in positions of influence, it should 193 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: be to impact always positive. Because I also believe that 194 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: when God gives you superpowers, they should be used for 195 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: a greater good. But he also sees if you have 196 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: something you're not using it the right way and abusing 197 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: it quickly as he gives to you, he would take 198 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: it away. So again it worked out, and you know, 199 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: just a lesson in how we owe it to our 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: ancestors and we owe it to our next and future leaders. 201 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, to get. 202 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: In the way. 203 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that you stepped and you 204 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: put your Olivia Pup white hat on a little and 205 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: fixed it. It's hand and it is handled. Okay, I 206 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. So. You were born in Cincinnati, Ohio, 207 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: in a household with both parents, played basketball and volleyball 208 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: growing up, and you talked about how your mother would 209 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: call you and your siblings geniuses. Let's talk about the 210 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: impact of receiving words of affirmation that actually built the 211 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: confidence and strong sense of self worth and self belief 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: at a very young age. Yeah, I know it's so important. 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: It is very important, and I feel very blessed and 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: fortunate my parents. Last week's celebrated fifty five years of marriage. 215 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: They met in the fourth grade, They went to prom together, 216 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: they went to college together. You know, that doesn't mean 217 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: that they have not probably had, you know, their own 218 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: ebb and flow. 219 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: What I do tell people. 220 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: Is that if it was really bad, we never saw 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: it right, We didn't know, you know. And so to 222 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: that point, I've been very blessed and fortunate to witness 223 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: everlasting love. They are one another's best friend. They travel 224 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: the world together. My dad writes love letters. My mother 225 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: calls him her boyfriend. And to your question, at a 226 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: very early age, my mother was a school teacher. 227 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: She retired as the superintendent. 228 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: But we would come home from school and see kids 229 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: in our dining room and I'm like, who these kids? 230 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: But she was a hands on teacher who believe fundamentally 231 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: in making deposits into others and so not knowing their 232 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: circumstances at home, our home became their home, and so 233 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: we were still at a very age the power of 234 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: giving back, and I subscribed to the belief to whom 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: much is given, much as required, and. 236 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: She does to this day. 237 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: She calls us genius, you know, and so those words 238 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: of affirmation her being an educator. I started school at 239 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: a very young age. I was started at three, I 240 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: was advanced a grade girl. I pledged as a teenager. 241 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: You know, can you tell what pledged facts? But that said, 242 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: there was never a time that you know, we were 243 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: not like where we didn't feel that we could be 244 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: anything that we wanted to be. And we had the 245 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: support of my father and my mother. My father lived, 246 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he we grew up watching him as mayor. 247 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: But what I. 248 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: Also saw was that he put his family first. So 249 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: all of my games, as you mentioned, being an athlete, 250 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 2: were on his schedule, so he would come no matter 251 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: what he was doing, running the city, running the state. 252 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: My father has always made time and we have never 253 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: doubted God first his family right there as well. 254 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I love that. That's so good and it's so important 255 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: because I know, like, especially the things that your mother 256 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: was doing for those children. Yeah, a lot of them 257 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: weren't getting that at home. Yeah, And education goes past 258 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: the hours village. Yeah, it keeps going once you get 259 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: to do the homework. That's what you really really get 260 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: all the lessons you need. 261 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: And then it's like today, you don't know the kids 262 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: are going home. You know they don't have food, don't 263 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: you know they're going home and they're being raised because 264 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: mom and her dad has to work two or three jobs, 265 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: and you know, big bro is like holding it down. 266 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: And so I think we. 267 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Have duty to make sure that we are looking out 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: for those. I don't even want to say the least 269 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: of these because sometimes it's not just the least of these. 270 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: We have duty to look out. Period. I love that. 271 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: That's good. That a duty to look out period period. 272 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I love that. What did you learn about partnership, whether 273 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: personal or professional by watching and witnessing your parents and 274 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: being a part of sports teams? I know I was 275 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: an athlete growing up. Dad has carried me through my 276 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: just that discipline. There is something about like being in 277 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: an organized sport or something organized in school that just 278 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: carries like you push through. Like I got constructive criticism 279 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: very early on. Yes I was able to take take 280 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: it because our chileing coach, we were like the competition chillers. 281 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: So yes, it was hard. I didn't She didn't care 282 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: if your bone was sticking out. You keep going, keep going. 283 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: You know. 284 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: That's like, you know, for me to have played sports competitively, 285 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: I think as you mentioned life lessons, teamwork, camaraderie, role playing, Yeah, 286 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: sacrife VI, commitment, discipline. You know, I am very big 287 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: on We also had the house going back to my parents, 288 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: that was like everybody came over to the Black Whales 289 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: after school. So we had the basement. Everybody was in 290 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: the basement, you know. And I just really think when 291 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: I look at partnership, particularly in a household, I saw. 292 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: That marriage really isn't fifty to fifty. 293 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 294 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: There are shifts a lot of times, and most times 295 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: it may be seventy thirty, eighty twenty. But you know, 296 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: do you have a partner that understands the shifts and 297 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: do you have a partner that can celebrate you at 298 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: all times? See, my mother knew that my father's profile 299 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: was his profile, But my father knew that he had 300 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: a baddy too, and he could celebrate her and lift 301 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: her and know that when it was her season. And 302 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: so you really want to look at where and how 303 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: you find a partner or a mate that is secure, 304 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: because you know, when you're blessed and fortunate, it could 305 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: be challenging, you know, and. 306 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: You know it is. 307 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: And I am of the belief that I am very humble. 308 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: I promise you I am. You are, you know, because 309 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: for me, it's just that is who I am at 310 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: my core, right, And so it's always funny. 311 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: People are like, you're so personable, I would not be right. 312 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: So that's how I was raised. But what I would 313 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: say to you too is that it takes a. 314 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: Special guy to understand my world. 315 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: And not my Instagram world, my real life. Hey, because 316 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: I am to your early point, I'm gonna give you 317 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: what I want to give you on social platform. That's 318 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: what I choose to give you. But the privacy as currency, 319 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: the anonymity, there's power in that. 320 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: I like that people don't know. 321 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: What I do. I know that's right. 322 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: Those who need to know no. 323 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: And so what I will also tell you too is 324 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: that when you're dating and looking for that maid or partner, 325 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: what I also have learned is that. 326 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: It takes a secure man to deal with me. 327 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: I'm talking about secure and what I'm not willing to 328 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: do is to dial back my blessings to accommodate any 329 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: insecurities because they don't go away. And so you know 330 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: when you think you are making all of these like 331 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: you know they're there now. 332 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: They may have like little spikes here and there. But 333 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: what I try. 334 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: To, you know, say not just for me? 335 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: And again they're you in that space. You know, it's. 336 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: That we really want the things that don't cost, the thing. 337 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: That money cannot buy. That is so true. 338 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: Can I get a listening there? 339 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying and so, and I don't you know, 340 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: for me, I date and I have very good men 341 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: around me, so you know, in case any of them 342 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: watching them because you know you've got a million followers. 343 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: But where I am right now, and going back to 344 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: what you asked and what I've witnessed, yeah, I know 345 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: what it takes to be sustainable. 346 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Mm. 347 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: Because you're gonna have a great partner yea. And it 348 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: can be a great season of dating. But when you 349 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: hit a bump, what's up? 350 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: What's up? 351 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: What you're doing? And for for. 352 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: What I know, in where women are today, young women 353 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: who are very aspirational. 354 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: You can have both. I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it, 355 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: but it does take a special kind of mate. 356 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I went through years of my life where 357 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I was like, well, maybe love is just not in 358 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: the cars for me. Maybe that's the second of the things. Yeah. No, 359 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: I mean I'm experiencing now, be like if I was 360 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: like for a while, I was like maybe I'm like 361 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: I used to jog like I'm gonna be like, oh 362 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: for just give me a statement like I'm gonna be good, 363 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: you know. And and I don't even know the particulars 364 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: of their relationship, but you know what, we. 365 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: Know what works for them. It works, you know what 366 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: I mean? And so whatever works for whomever you. 367 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Know, you like it. I love it period, exactly. Know 368 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: over we love it. 369 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: Over, we love it, and we love to see it Haystap. 370 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: Yes, no, seriously. And I was like, God, maybe a 371 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: part of me And I don't know if you ever 372 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: had this feeling or a season in your life where 373 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: you're like, God, like, if you have everything in the world, 374 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: everything is like I don't have anybody to share it with. 375 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: I had seasons like that where I was like dang. 376 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: Then I was like, well, maybe that's not in the 377 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: cards for me. Maybe that's the sacrifice of having at 378 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: all or not else. 379 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: I honestly believe you could have it all. I seen, 380 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: I've seen. You know, my parents have it all, you 381 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So, but I do believe that 382 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: my parents also met remember fourth grade, and so for them, 383 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: they grew together. Yes, And so when you have folks 384 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: who are at different faces and or stages, you know, 385 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: for me, like you know, everybody's like, man, you're gonna 386 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: have to day white. You're gonna have to he gonna 387 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: have to know. And m I just firmly believe that 388 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: what God has for me, it is for me, and 389 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: he will be mine and only mine. 390 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: I know that's right to speak it. 391 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: I love it. 392 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: That's so good man, It's definitely. 393 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: But but I like how you just said, because see 394 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know if we were like you know. 395 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: I like how you said, you know I found it. 396 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's still early. You know what 397 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're getting to know each other. We hit 398 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: those you hit a bumby like what yeah, you know, 399 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: like we hear those and it's you like you have 400 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: to stand back and communicate, you know what I'm saying, 401 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: learn each other and just realize. 402 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: But you know what's funny, Like I've seen you on 403 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: dating cycles, you have, you have, you know, and this 404 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: is different. 405 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is different. Yeah, and take your time. I 406 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: am you know what I mean. 407 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: I think a lot of times we want to rush thing. 408 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm probably more patient than most. 409 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: But it's gonna happen. 410 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. I believe it for both of us. 411 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: I've already claimed my victory. I know this, But you 412 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: know what, in fairness, there are some things that I. 413 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 3: Have to work on. 414 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: I've learned that even in this relationship, there are things I. 415 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: Have to work on. Yeah, and that's okay, that's. 416 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Wrong, it is. Yeah, well I love it speaking of 417 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: things you have to work on mental For me, therapy 418 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: has helped me realize because I was kind of oblivious 419 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: to things that I needed to work on until I 420 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: started doing therapy. Things to my manager Donor who introduced 421 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: you to my therapist, doctor DeLanda Zimmerman and that episode, 422 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh you did. 423 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: I support my friends? 424 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay no, but like I list, I was like, oh 425 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: my gosh, like Chrystal, you ain't you know what I'm saying? Like, 426 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: cause we I can. I can say this. Sometimes I 427 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: look and like I got it all together, and then 428 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: you meet somebody you're like, wait a minute, You're putting 429 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: two different lives together and you're like, oh, I still 430 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: got things I need to work. God, you know. So 431 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: that's I love that you can do that self inventory 432 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: yeah and be like, there's still Kimberly needs work. 433 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: Extremely self aware. 434 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: Now, my friend might say differently. At times, I'm extremely 435 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: self aware and I know my areas of opportunity, and 436 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: for me, it's just the consistent behavioral changes. 437 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: That I sometimes need to be Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, there. 438 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: You gotta you know you're you're thinking for two Yeah, 439 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: absolutely know. And I am extremely considerate. And what most 440 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: people will say is that I have a giving heart, 441 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: almost to the point where I'm too giving. 442 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm now you're on my street street Yeah, give, give, 443 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: give and be like And I had to have a 444 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: conversation with TALR about this about and I can shows 445 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: with you because you probably feel the same way. Have 446 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: you ever found yourself like you give, give, give, and 447 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: you feel like you're not getting it back, and you're like, hey, 448 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: you start to kind of get frustrated. 449 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's shift gears out of uh dating relationships 450 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: and go to friendships. Yeah, I have gone through some 451 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: things where when. 452 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: I tell you I am a. 453 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: Girls girl, you are what you. 454 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: Are and I will give beyond measure. 455 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: But what I realized too, and this is not anything 456 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: against you know, any particular friend. It's just that I 457 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: realized that I needed to stop expecting me from other 458 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: people because the things in which and how I would 459 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: operate as a friend may not be the way they 460 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: would operate. 461 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they're a bad person. 462 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: It just means that I needed to manage and shift 463 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: my expectations. 464 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, that's what Tyler told me. He was like, 465 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: take money out of it, take what you do out 466 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: of it. And Denore said the same thing a lot 467 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: of times, with whoever you're sowing into may not sow 468 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: back into you. And Tyler's made a great comment. He said, 469 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, Chrystal, he said, I used to look around 470 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: me like I'm doing all this for these people and 471 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: like I'm not getting anything in return. And God told 472 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: them how they can't do it to the level you 473 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: do it. They'll never be able to do what you 474 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: do for them. And he said, you just got to 475 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: look at their heart, how you feel when you're around 476 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: them and do you feel loved? So truth? 477 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, that is so true, and 478 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: I realized that, like, you know, different friends have different 479 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: gifts yep, you know. And for me, I love a 480 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: good time. I love to laugh, you know, So I 481 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: pay attention to energy. I make the shifts as needed. 482 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: Who am I laughing with the most? And when I'm 483 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: having a hard time, who's recognizing my hard time? And 484 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: are they sometimes giving me a hard time in my 485 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: hard time? 486 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: Kimberly, Yeah, that part. 487 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: So you know where and how I look at my 488 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: peace now, how I'm giving the heisman in separation is intentional, 489 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: but it's not to be received in anything of malice. 490 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: It's just where I am and how I'm looking at 491 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: things and what I need for me. 492 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: I love it. That's so good. That's such a good point. 493 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: But let's I want to double back to like dating 494 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: you and I both, I'm I'm a very hyper masculine 495 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: or not hypermasculine. 496 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: Let me go back, No, you hardly hyper masculine. 497 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: No? 498 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: Well no, okay, so keep on. You're gonna say it 499 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: the way you want to say it. 500 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm hyper independent. I'm not hyper independent, but 501 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: because of my independence. It does create this like you 502 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like you kind of got it, like 503 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm saying, is this facade that 504 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: comes up with this persona where you're like I'm, I'm 505 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: and does that interfere with like, well, you know what? 506 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: So here's what I'll say. I realized that I own 507 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: and operate a business. I realized that I sit in 508 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: borerooms and I go in and I am asked to 509 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: lead by governance and solving. I know that that requires 510 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: a position to sometimes be stern and direct. But I 511 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: realized too that that's what I do. That's not always 512 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: who I need to show up and who I am. 513 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: Especially in a relationship. 514 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: Men need to feel needed. They do that, you know, 515 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: And so you know, what is it and how is it? 516 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: In my soft girl era right that I show up 517 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: as a woman and understanding. 518 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: I subscribe to the word. I know what it means 519 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: to be submissive. 520 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: I have no pride, I tell hey, I have no 521 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 2: pride with you, baby, No none. So I can allow 522 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: myself to be vulnerable in a relationship that I find 523 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: is worthy and meaningful. 524 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: For me to show up that way. 525 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: When you start breaking down Like I used to date 526 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: this guy and he used to say cool cool ask him, 527 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: you know, because that was the energy that I gave 528 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: him initially, but he broke me. Now, okay, So but 529 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: you want, you know, I want a man to be 530 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: a man. 531 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm not a man. 532 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: And in all that I have to do as a leader, 533 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: as a manager, as a provider, sometimes I just want 534 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: to hook what. Sometimes I want you to say, you 535 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: know what, pack your bag, let's go what you know? 536 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: So you want someone to recognize what you may need, 537 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: but you also have to be deliberate and intentional about 538 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: what they may need. And I tend to over index 539 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: in that because I. 540 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Realize God is so good to me. 541 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about so good, and I know that there 542 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: may be some disparities in the things that actually don't 543 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: mean a lot to me. But I recognize that and 544 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: how men and or whomever may need to process that 545 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: with their partner, because I don't want anyone to feel inadequate. 546 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: No, you know, But what I do want you to 547 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: figure out is what are you giving me that no 548 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: one else is? 549 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Yes? Ooh that's good, you know? 550 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: And why and where is it in? 551 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: Why is it that I run to you when I'm 552 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: having a bad day, that I run to you because 553 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: I can depend on you to bring a smile to 554 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: my face or an inside joke. 555 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that, you know. Yeah, that's so true. 556 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: That so good. We often talk about faith. You don't 557 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: hide your faith none at all. And I love that 558 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: we're going to church together. Yes we had, Yes, yes 559 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: we have. 560 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm unapologetic in my faith because when 561 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: God has been as good as he is and. 562 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: Will be for me, I will not hide it. 563 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: I also know that in my darkest hours in time, 564 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: it's been me and Him. 565 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. 566 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: And so to. 567 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: Know what He has done I'm talking about you know, folks, 568 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 2: these kids, you know, they go on Instagram and they 569 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: see X y Z. They want the instant and immediate gratification. 570 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: You know, I drove a Honda with a hangar that 571 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: held my bumper up. What six hundred square foot apartment 572 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: is where I started my business. 573 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: Gilded multimillion dollar enterprize. 574 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: I write seven figure checks to go into investments. 575 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: But for the. 576 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: Grace and mercy of God. Wow, And so for me 577 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: I am. I know from where my blessings flow. And 578 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: if you have a problem with me talking about how 579 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: good he is, then we probably not gonna talk a lot. Hello, 580 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: because we talk all the time because we can say 581 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: and it's not a brag or boast, it's a praise. 582 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: It is a praise. 583 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh you know, because like I said, you know, for 584 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: some folks, favorite ain't fair, and it ain't. 585 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: That's touching it because it ain't God an't good. Favorite 586 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: is not fair. I definitely wantn't touch on that because 587 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: I know. 588 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you did, because that's a huge part. 589 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you come to my page. You know, 590 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: folks come to my page they want to see, oh 591 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, she got the pieces right, and sometimes I do. 592 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: But but that's not why I want you to come 593 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: to my page. 594 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: I promise you. 595 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't have I figured out that that may be 596 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: what lures people to my page. 597 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah I know that. 598 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: So I give a piece or two. 599 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but well, I really. 600 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: Want you on my page is for that social Sunday sermon. 601 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're gonna give it to it. 602 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it, and I'm gonna give it along 603 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: with the word because if I can have and touch 604 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: one person on Sunday, who may be struggling, who may 605 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: need a word, who may not know him, but can 606 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 2: see what He has done for me, Because if he 607 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: can do it for me, he can. 608 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: Do it for you. Oh my goodness, what I tell 609 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: everybody around me? If you see what God is doing 610 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: for me, what makes you think he won't do it 611 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? You know. Sometly times you got people 612 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: around you where they may be jealous or envious or 613 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: not even understanding, like why you and not even thinking 614 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm mixed? You know what I'm saying, Like you have 615 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: to look around me, like, how do you see again, 616 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: I'm flipping it. Let's do it. Yeah, let's talk. 617 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: And I'm mad at myself that I waited too long. 618 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: To flip it. 619 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: How do you deal with the fact that you are 620 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: in a season to where God continues to show you 621 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: things unimaginable. You have folks in your circle who may 622 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: not be excelling at the same pace. 623 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: How do you deal with. 624 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: Friends who really want to be good friends but you see. 625 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: Because you know, we do see, we see it. 626 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: How you deal with it? 627 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: Well? 628 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Actually I just talked about this. I'm going through a 629 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: purging season where God has revealed a lot of things 630 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah, And I think oftentimes people like 631 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: us who are givers and we also see the good 632 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: at everybody, even when they're not so good. We see 633 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: that a little bit of good, like, no, they a 634 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: good person, and you just love them and you just 635 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: want them to see the good in themselves and change. 636 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: And I literally had to just start setting boundaries and like, 637 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, yes, this is no longer serving me, and 638 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: sometimes people don't. They're in their own way, you know, 639 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: they see that you're going, you're climbing and climbing, and 640 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: they're still in the same space. And it's been like 641 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: that with not just friends, family relationships. I've had to 642 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: like just really take even to everything around me to 643 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: see who's really here for me. And then you start 644 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: looking at the people that are entitled, you know what 645 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying, to what you have and the people who 646 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: have shown jealousy envy, and envy is a really dangerous 647 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: thing when it comes to friends. It's really dangerous with anybody, 648 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: anybody in your circle. 649 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: It's very very dangerous. 650 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: And it's let me say this, it's dangerous. But you 651 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: know what else, it's disappointing. So it's heartbreaking, it hurts 652 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: it does. I mean it hurts badly. 653 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's lonely. It's like once you have to, 654 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: once you make that steps to be like hey, I 655 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. You go through a phase it's 656 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: a breakup, you know, and it hurts so bad. It's 657 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: like God, like why couldn't this person just see it 658 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: or just be happy? And like because you're here, you 659 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We all rocking together, we have 660 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: good time together. But they in the corner like. 661 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I said, you know, for me, like 662 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: you know, I tried and this is what I've learned, 663 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: and I would challenge you this. Okay, it doesn't have 664 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: to be a breakup. It does not have to be 665 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: a breakup. The reveal is just that a reveal, and 666 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: what you can do is maintain the friendship. 667 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: But it will be different, yeah, you know. 668 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: And then you have to have a conversation with that person, 669 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: like how do you just moving? 670 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: So you know what, you should have the conversation. 671 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: But I have had it where I have not say, 672 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, but I actually think you should have the 673 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: conversation and a real friendship. You should be able to 674 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: have the conversation. 675 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: Well if you had the conversation a few times. 676 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 3: Man, you're coming into my Bible study. 677 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: Reverend Cordelia Wallace. Reverend Cordelia Wallace, New York. We do 678 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 2: Bible study on every Saturday, and she has a great 679 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: group of women. Shout out to Simone Smith who put 680 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: me in the Bible study. 681 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: But what I will tell you is that. 682 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: We talk about that and leadership lessons and learnings, but 683 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: also in friendships and how they evolve. After a certain 684 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 2: number of times, then you have to really maybe counted 685 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: as this isn't you've tried. Yeah, you know, and you 686 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: know you just you move differently, Yeah, you move. 687 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 3: Differently, you do. 688 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: And this is a person I have one situation in 689 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: particularly where like just love her to death, you know. 690 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: And it's more so like you just need to like 691 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: work on yourself and figure out what that is, whether 692 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: where that unhappiness is stealing from, figure out the trauma 693 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: is real, its real trauma is real. 694 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: And sometimes we don't know what other have been through this. 695 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: And you could be friends with someone for however many 696 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: years and you just don't know where and what they're navigating. 697 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: Still still, you know, I pay attention to you know, 698 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 2: a candle loses none of its light by lighting another 699 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: you know who? And how are people clapping when you 700 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: get those awards and recognitions? 701 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: David John Gray talked about that he did a whole sermon. 702 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: He was like, God, watch this. How you clap? Season? 703 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: I said, Wow? 704 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 3: And what I try to do is I always try 705 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: to clap. 706 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 2: I am the person too where I will bring people's names, Yes, 707 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: you will into the room. I am always looking at 708 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: and I do think that that is one of my 709 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: superpowers because you know, I firmly believe that your network 710 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: can determine your net worth. 711 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm moving a lot of circles. 712 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 2: I always challenge people. It is very easy to stay 713 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: in circles that look like us. Get up and get out. 714 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: You don't want to go to that lunch or that outing. 715 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: Go You never know who is in the room. I 716 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 2: sit at tables and the men deals with a lot 717 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: of men, men period, and men that don't look. 718 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: Like you know. 719 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: What's interesting. Some of my biggest advocates are men and 720 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: men that sometimes do not look like us. Some of 721 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: my biggest distractors are women that look like us. 722 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: Keep it positive, sweetie, I said, that's the truth, though, 723 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, but what I realize is that even when 724 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: I know that I stay true to who I. 725 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: Am, you keep it positive, sweetie. 726 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: What and when you do that, you you get passed 727 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: into the other side. And what I've learned, and this 728 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: is a lesson that my mother's taught me, you always 729 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 2: take the high road. I'm gonna say that again because 730 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: a lot of times we in these situations. You always 731 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: take the high road. It will never fail you. And 732 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 2: when you take it, it hasn't failed me. And so 733 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: even when I know, and when we said that earlier, 734 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: stop expecting. 735 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: Me from I take the high road. 736 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 5: Wow, when they go low. And my dear friend Candy 737 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 5: when they go low, she's. 738 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: A lower I know, but she's a great person. So 739 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: I say that she knows I love her. But what 740 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: I will say to you is that for me, I 741 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: would rather because everybody had the three sides, every story, 742 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: and they gonna tell their story. 743 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 3: I'm not the person who runs and feels the need 744 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 3: to tell my side. I'm moving side. 745 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: Yeah you do. 746 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: I know what I know what road, I know what 747 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: I did, I know how I did it. 748 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: I know circumstances and what and. 749 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: How I tried to always stay as a catalyst, tell 750 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 2: your story. 751 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah it's cool. 752 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, And I also think too people also you 753 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: can tell you know the story, but people are paying 754 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: attention to how you're telling the story, and they also 755 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: paying attention to how the other person isn't because again 756 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: you you know. 757 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: You know how to do it. 758 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: That's so good. I love it. What would Jesus do? 759 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: Keep it moving? Let him talk? I love it so Kim. 760 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: You are man. Your resume is crazy. You've worked with 761 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Fortune one hundred companies such as Nationwide Chase. 762 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: Uber actually got to do it activation with Nationwide on 763 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: my side, Amen, I'll think it for you Nationwide, it 764 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: is on yours. 765 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: Come on, jingle, come on out. 766 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: Work to make sure they see that. 767 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: Next NeXT's responsive? 768 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 2: Nation you know, because that's how apfle what what? 769 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: That's why I love it. I love it. I love it. 770 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your experience because oftentimes I'm 771 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: sure you're the only black person or black woman in 772 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: those rooms. What it is? Is it like gaining respect 773 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: from your non millenated companies, because I know you probably 774 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: like anybody yourself. 775 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: You know, what I like to say is that you 776 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: know I have great partners. I mean great partners. You 777 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 2: name some of them, Nationwide, Uber, Amazon, Chase, I mean 778 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 2: food Lie. Most of my clients have been tenured clients. 779 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: I've been doing business with Nationwide. 780 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: For fourteen years. 781 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: I've been doing business with food Line for over When 782 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: I partner with a corporation, it's not to be here 783 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: today going tomorrow. What I love about them is that 784 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: they actually allow me to go in from an agency 785 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: of record side as a brand partner, but to learn 786 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: the entire business. I consider myself a business leader. I'm 787 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 2: a owner operator, so I understand the sales, marketing, the intersectionality, 788 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: what it looks like in growth channels. 789 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: I won't do all that, but all of that say. 790 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: What they also understand is that I know consumers. I 791 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: know what it looks like in the sense of, you know, 792 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 2: business transformation. I work with companies that are low market 793 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 2: shared that now over index because they go into the 794 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: African American community, they realize our purchasing power, They. 795 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 3: Go on into LATINX communities, they look at women, they look 796 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: at millennials, so. 797 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: And they let us do it in a way that 798 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit non traditional. I was talking to 799 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: an officer at Nationwide literally yesterday and she said, Kim, 800 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 2: what you did for us at Black Enterprise. You brought 801 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: and I took, I took Yandy Smith, I took meanly, 802 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: I took Rashida and we talked about I mean, these 803 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 2: are three women scale businesses, multimillionaires, different channels of business. 804 00:45:54,320 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: But that was a different story for a financial service provider. Yeah, 805 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: but if we don't understand who our consumers are as 806 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: it relates to protecting what matters most, then we're doing 807 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: a disservice. And so they can tell their stories in 808 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: a way that leads to understanding what financial freedoms look like, 809 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: what generational wealth looks like. So what I love and 810 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 2: what I get to do is that, you know, I 811 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: get to bring a little bit of culture to commerce, 812 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: to capital, you know, to consumers and where and how 813 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: companies of corporations, global corporations think differently. And you know, 814 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: I go in and do a little corporate thug and 815 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: is a lifestyle, you know, yes, life, I love it. 816 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: And you know what I say too is important because 817 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: what I love about what I get to do is. 818 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: You know, boardroom, pool hall. 819 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: I tell folks my name is good on any boulevard 820 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: and when you understand the power of knowing who you are, 821 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: who you are and how you work with others and 822 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: understanding the full diaspora of a community. 823 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 3: It just really becomes game changing. 824 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine. 825 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good. 826 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me say this too, because you asked 827 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: the question, people want people on their team to win. Yes, 828 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: you mentioned sports. I'm built to win. You are win 829 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: playing small. We all went by two, We went by twenty. 830 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: What period literally and we. 831 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: Know sports sports and I'm going to a Reds game. 832 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: Fun fact. 833 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: You know, we've been owners in the Reds since two 834 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: thousand and six. So you know where I get this 835 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 2: whole business investor in seeing that, you know, and what 836 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: that looks like for folks who look like us to 837 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 2: be in Major League Baseball. I want an NBA team, 838 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 2: y'all hear that it's coming. I want an NBA team. 839 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: But you know, for me, sports is a part of 840 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 3: my outlet, you know, it is. 841 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,959 Speaker 1: We go to the game. 842 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: You know, we have fun and the games aren't experienced 843 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 2: they are, you know, and they're shout out Melissa Procter 844 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: cemo at the Hawks. There's nothing will everybody, Jamie and 845 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: we love you all. There is nothing like in Atlanta. 846 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: It is nothing like I tell people you're gonna get. 847 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: A swag and a surf. Okay, you're gonna get a 848 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: little bit of performance. Two chains might be performing. You 849 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: know Atlanta's finance. 850 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: Listen, it's just the greatest. Food is good, great, we 851 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: got a good team building. Yeah. 852 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 3: I've been a season ticket holder now for over ten years. 853 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: Because you Now, I've been going on my second year 854 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: because of you. 855 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, I was so proud of you, 856 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: because those tickets ain't cheap. I was like, baby, girl 857 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: is doing it what I'm coming to the floor. I'm coming. 858 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 2: I said, move out the way. But I will say 859 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: this to you too. You never know just what that means, 860 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 2: because you would be surprised at how many people come 861 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: up to me and say it means something to see you, 862 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: as a black business woman go sit feet on the. 863 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 3: Wood court side knowing you know that. 864 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 2: I and I thought about it, like dang, I never thought, 865 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just strolling out to my seat. I 866 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: never thought of But for me, it changed how I 867 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: looked at a lot of things because folks see what 868 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: they can be yes, and how they too. 869 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you did that for me, you did now. I 870 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 1: was in the Actually I was in the Atlanta Hawk 871 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: suitet last night in the beginning of the concert, and 872 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: one of the guys who helps like keep the score 873 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: for the team, he sits right in front of me. 874 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: He's always like a gesture like hello, yeah, And I 875 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: never knew his name. He was like, oh, he's like 876 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: he told me, he's like, this is my wife. This 877 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: is Crystal. He said. You probably don't think I know, 878 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: but I've watched your shows on BT, like she has 879 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: two shows on BT. I was like, wow, yeah, and 880 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: he was like no, she sits right behind me, and 881 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: it's just like you never know he's gonna sit next 882 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: to you. Literally, one game, I was sitting next to 883 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: one of the owners of the Sacramento Kings. Yes, his 884 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: wife loved my boots. And then I found out who 885 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: he was and I was like, oh, well, my castmates 886 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: is from there. 887 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 3: You better spit more free game. What I will tell 888 00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 3: you is that those seats have led to very lucrative 889 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 3: business opportunities. 890 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: I can imagine. Yeah, that is crazy, Like the people 891 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: I've met just going to. 892 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 3: Gain proximity, Yeah, is a real thing. 893 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: To that, I say, thank you because you exposed me 894 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: to something you know that I didn't even I see 895 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: people down there, but I knew and we did. We 896 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: were going to the game. 897 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 3: You were like, you did it for yourself, and I'm 898 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 3: extremely proud. 899 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 900 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: Can I say something else too? I just thought about this. 901 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: So for your fortieth birthday party last year, you invited 902 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: me and I was like, I wasn't miss it for 903 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: the world. 904 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, so think about it. 905 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 2: We hadn't known one another that long. Now we have 906 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: fast tracked of friendship. Yes, And I say this because 907 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: you don't have to be friends with someone for fifteen 908 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: years to click and then know that that will be 909 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 2: a special person in your life for years to come. 910 00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 1: Right. 911 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 3: And I arrived by myself and guess what table? I 912 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 3: was at table number one. 913 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 2: And for me, while I was there to celebrate you, 914 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: I could have been at table two hundred and one. 915 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: I was there to celebrate. 916 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: You, but seeing and sitting with your parents, seeing how 917 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: you curated that table with those who minister to you 918 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 2: by way of faith. Yes, not to mention, of course 919 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: she had Tyler Perry at table one. You know it 920 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 2: really meant something to me in a way of what 921 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 2: and how God has blessed me with you. Wow, seriously, 922 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 2: because I was thinking to myself, like she doesn't. 923 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 3: Have me anywhere in the room. 924 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in Atlanta, but I 925 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: took that as the highest form of compliment. Thank you, 926 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: because that's what that's that's what it meant for me. 927 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: I want her at my table. 928 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 3: You just I don't even know if I've ever expressed 929 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 3: that to you. 930 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: You just did not know to how you seeming it 931 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: yourself and a special You know, there's nothing you couldn't 932 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: ask me for that I wouldn't do. 933 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 3: Now that was before the party. 934 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you came back and like you made time 935 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: to come back. 936 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something going back, whether it's dating 937 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: or anything else, people like O Kim, you know I 938 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: didn't want to ask you. You're so busy I am. 939 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm always busy and gonna be busy. I need to 940 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: be busy. It beats the alternative hello. But you're never 941 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: too busy. Word, You're never too busy for the things 942 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: that matter. And you create the time, you make the 943 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: shifts you inconvenience yourself in a way that it does 944 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 2: not feel like an inconvenience because it's an act of 945 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 2: love and I have no I will make I show 946 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 2: up for people. And that's what I That's another thing 947 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: if I had to look at what people what I 948 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 2: hope people see is that she shows up. 949 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh, you show up? You do. I've seen you do 950 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: it for other people too. I try, I try, and 951 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, how does she even have the time to meet? 952 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 3: But that remember, that's an example of my parents. 953 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: Yes. Wow, it goes back to I love that code 954 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: switching is so real. Yeah, and you said yeah, but 955 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: what people admire most about you is how unapologetic you are. 956 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: You dress, you walk, you speak, you show up at 957 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: yourself in every single room. I want to know, other 958 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: than the words of affirmation that she received at home, 959 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: how did you just gain this whole? Just like the 960 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: way you even walk into the arena, It's like, who 961 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: did like you? Do you have this confidence? And what 962 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: what made you? Like? I don't have to switch it 963 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: up because you know, I've been been through that. I 964 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: work on Capitol Hill and I be talking, hey, what's 965 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: up man, and then get a good morning to help 966 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: you like you know what? 967 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a part of my superpower. 968 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 2: I think that when people connect with you in your 969 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 2: purest form of authenticity, I don't have to switch up. 970 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: You know, I know I'm. 971 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: Well educated, I'm dual degree, I've you know, gone to Harvard. 972 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 3: You know what are you kidding me? Cornell? You know 973 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 3: you name it? 974 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: That was. 975 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 2: Let me just say shout out to the Nora her homework, 976 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 2: because as a producer, she had just about everything. 977 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,439 Speaker 3: That might be one little small thing that she missed. 978 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: But I will tell you when I saw where and 979 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: how we were navigating this discussion, one of the most well. 980 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 3: Prepared that I have. 981 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: And I knew a lot by way of media a lot. 982 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: So again, but going back to that, and that's that's 983 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 2: always just knowing too. You know, when you talk about 984 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: making those deposits, you always want to make sure that 985 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: you are continuing to level up. 986 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 3: I never rest on any Laurels. 987 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 2: And I say that even by way of my clients, 988 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 2: the clients that I've mentioned that I've been with. 989 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 3: For over a decade. 990 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: I never rest on any somebody always chasing I'm looking, 991 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: you ain't catching me. And so with that too, I 992 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 2: think people do business with people they like. And I 993 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 2: also believe in how you show up is with receipts 994 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 2: and proof of performance. When you put the points on 995 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: the board, you know, they don't have to be your bestie. 996 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 2: Remember they want to win. 997 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 3: And the other thing is is that I advise. 998 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 2: Many C suite leaders and beyond corporate America, many high 999 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 2: profile people. They need to feel connected to you. They 1000 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 2: need to know you are a person of integrity. They 1001 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 2: need to understand your character. And my character is that, 1002 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, I'm comfortable in my skin. I'm comfortable, you know, 1003 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: one day being in the White House, another day being 1004 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: hanging with you know, my friend Pierre Thomas Akap from QC. 1005 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: You know, I mean I can. I can go and switch, 1006 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: but it's not colde sweeling. 1007 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 3: You know. I may switch exactly, the environment may. 1008 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: Change, but I go in consistently. I will tell you, 1009 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, when I'm spending time with people who don't 1010 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 2: look like me, what I think they like about me 1011 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: is that I show up one hundred percent. 1012 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 3: That's who I am. I love that and we have fun. 1013 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 2: I love immersing myself with smart people, and smart comes. 1014 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: Brilliance comes in many forms, and you don't have to 1015 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: be degreed I am, but you don't have to be 1016 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: for me to learn from you, and I can immerse 1017 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: myself on the boulevard and learn. That's what I want. 1018 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: That's why I spend so much time with young people. 1019 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know Rachel Jackson. Yes, so 1020 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 2: if I'm looking at Rachie, you know, there's a reason 1021 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 2: people are. 1022 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: Like you always guess what it's mutual. She's teaching me things, 1023 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 3: you know. 1024 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: I literally, you know, yesterday got a text from Desie Banks. 1025 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,959 Speaker 2: I love what Desie has done and how he has 1026 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 2: built a mobile enterprise around content. 1027 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so what people think. 1028 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: They're calling me for because here's my thing. Secure people 1029 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,479 Speaker 2: help other people secure the back. 1030 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 3: So for me, one thing. 1031 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm good at, right, But what they don't realize is 1032 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: that they are also teaching me. 1033 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I love that you spoke on how you 1034 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: work in a performance based industry where they want it's 1035 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: all about the point you board they want to win. 1036 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: Does that create any stress or self doubt or anxiety 1037 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: for you? And if so, like, how do you navigate 1038 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: stress and anxiety? 1039 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, so here's what I said, going back to 1040 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: how we started our route. And you know I'm a 1041 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 2: performance athlete, you know, I'm a corporate athlete, you know, 1042 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 2: So I actually like a little pressure, you know, I do. 1043 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, I want you to think. 1044 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: That I might not win, uh huh uh huh, because 1045 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm winning, you know. And so for me, just that 1046 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 2: whole drive. I tell folks, and I heard you tell 1047 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Donor that she works, you know, as hard as you know. 1048 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 2: Beyonce does no disrespect Donor, But I think that there 1049 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 2: are not a lot of people who outwork me. 1050 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I work. And that's what I also like. 1051 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 2: For people to understand, is like, you know what, they 1052 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 2: can see all that stuff, but you know what, the 1053 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 2: folks that I work with and partner with as corporate leaders, 1054 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 2: they will tell you she works. 1055 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 3: So all that little fluff you all see, she works. 1056 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: They know. 1057 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 2: I am, you know, mitigating crises at one in the morning, 1058 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: two in the morning, I am doing all sorts of 1059 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: board dexon you know. 1060 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 3: I lead esg on the board that I'm on, you know. 1061 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 2: So for me, I embrace leadership opportunities because I play 1062 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 2: the win. 1063 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I love that you carry yourself with a 1064 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: lot of confidence, dignity and a strong sense of self 1065 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and you have this undeniable don't try me energy about 1066 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: you don't sweet as pie, but don't try please, don't 1067 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: try her. I want to talk about the challenges of 1068 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: being a woman in the business. And if you were 1069 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: a man of all, this would be celebrated, you know 1070 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But being a powerful woman like you 1071 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: are alten, it's called challenging. We're called challenging, difficult, and 1072 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: a bit for lack of better words. Have you dealt 1073 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: with any of that? Yeah? 1074 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 3: I mean you know. 1075 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 2: You you show up and you show up confident now 1076 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 2: remember confident yet humble? 1077 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes right, but confident yes? 1078 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Prepared, over prepared, Oh, you have to be over prepared, collaborative. 1079 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: There are techniques that I use because I'm five to ten. Yeah, 1080 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: I show up and this already the presence. There are 1081 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 2: certain things I can't control, you know, and so I 1082 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 2: try to present myself with humility. But I am going 1083 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 2: to you know, talking to a board member and she's like, Kim, 1084 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: what I love is that you're very direct. And I 1085 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 2: actually asked, like, you know, directing the way that's off putting. 1086 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 2: She said, absolutely not, because I'm also coachable, and I 1087 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 2: think that's what we also have to be, is coachable 1088 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 2: and realizing that I never want it to be that 1089 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm growing and so you know, 1090 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 2: I don't know Tyler Perry, but like for me, like 1091 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk with a Tyler Perry so I 1092 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: can pick his brain and actually make some deposits. Like 1093 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 2: I love to be around people who are constantly in 1094 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 2: elevation mode. 1095 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1096 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 2: So, whether it's Oprah, whether it's Melody Hobson, you know, 1097 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 2: whether it's the thunder Ducket, you know, whether it's ros Brewer. 1098 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: You know. 1099 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 2: I want the people that I see look to and 1100 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 2: admire because they've navigated things that I aspire to. 1101 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Noting yes, love, that's so good love, Yes, livesten to Sounder, Yes, 1102 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosherful women. Wow you always. You also talked 1103 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: about how your privacy is currency, yes, and which is 1104 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: good like I love. 1105 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Actually though, let me say, my privacy is currency and 1106 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: I am hyper private. 1107 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 3: But you got me a little bit today. You did 1108 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 3: what you said, she got me. 1109 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't talk about my private life, but I do 1110 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 2: think that there are gems and nuggets. 1111 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 3: In a macro share that we should. 1112 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 2: We have to do better as women. We have to 1113 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: do better as black women and sharing more of the 1114 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 2: lessons learnings, and some of that, you know, is inclusive 1115 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: of the warts. 1116 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 3: You know. I'm always like, man. 1117 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Somebody needs to tell us all the stuff that nobody 1118 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 2: said it was cool to tell. And so, you know, 1119 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 2: as I look at, you know, ways in which I'm 1120 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: trying to navigate content, I want more stories too that 1121 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 2: actually focus more on the warts, because I've had some, 1122 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, warts, and that's professionally and personally. And I 1123 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 2: think we have to get comfortable with understanding that. You know, 1124 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: people relate more when you know they see the human 1125 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 2: side of you, you know, because you know, because everybody 1126 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 2: sees this side of all the you know, yeah, you know, 1127 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 2: and I tell folks, you know, you see the glam, 1128 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 2: you know, but you don't really see the guts. And 1129 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of times folks don't see 1130 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 2: that I'm in my office in Ohio and I'm in there, 1131 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 2: you know, fourteen sixteen hours a day, if not longer, 1132 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm there on the weekends, you know, 1133 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 2: and all of the sacrifice and you know what comes 1134 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 2: with being an owner operator, you know, all the stuff 1135 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 2: folks don't necessarily talk about. But you know, I think 1136 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 2: as we get more comfortable in who we are, we 1137 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 2: almost owe it to others to kind of take off 1138 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 2: the mask. 1139 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Yep. 1140 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 3: I started a women's conference in Summit, and. 1141 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: It's really geared towards c suite corporate leaders who don't 1142 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 2: really get an opportunity to kind of just be. And 1143 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 2: it's called Accelerate Her. And it's a community that we've 1144 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 2: built not just for the Summit, but how do we 1145 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 2: as women and women of color and black women use 1146 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 2: our superpowers collectively? And a lot of times you have 1147 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 2: all these summits. You have the summits that the corporate 1148 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 2: leaders go to, you have the summons for the culture. No, 1149 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 2: what I did, honestly was I just went through my 1150 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 2: phone and I was like, do what I'm calling all 1151 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: the baddies in business and beyond. 1152 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,959 Speaker 3: I got high performers. 1153 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: You did? You had a conflict? 1154 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 2: You are on some like global Escape. You know you 1155 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 2: look on We don't know where you are in the world. 1156 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: But I gave you a path. You did. 1157 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 3: You did? 1158 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot. I had to show up her 1159 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: show one. You did? You did Soft Flex number two? Yes? You? 1160 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Because what I realized too is that. 1161 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 2: Just as I mentioned how summertimes my distractors are women 1162 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 2: that look, there are far more women who are trying 1163 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 2: to do good than a few bad, you know. And 1164 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 2: so what I wanted to do was to look at 1165 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 2: how we brought all the good apples together, to look 1166 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 2: at how we drive policy changes, how we drive changes 1167 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 2: in business and corporate America, how we get women more contracts, 1168 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 2: how we get we had lovely Ja Ja Jones to 1169 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 2: come in and do a book workshop, because guess what, 1170 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 2: not enough of us are writing books and telling our stories. 1171 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 2: So I had told her, yes, I have women who 1172 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 2: have are not authors, come up with something. 1173 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Guess what. 1174 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 3: She did it? She called me. She's like, girl, you're 1175 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 3: going to change my life. Guess what. 1176 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 2: She now has a book academy so that anybody wow 1177 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,439 Speaker 2: can go and learn from a four times New York 1178 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Times best selling author. 1179 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 3: Wow, because one day. 1180 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 2: I feel like I have at least three three books 1181 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 2: in me. I definitely have a podcast, yes, yes, but I. 1182 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Need more time. 1183 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: We can't wait for that podcast. 1184 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 2: Subscriber. I'm gonna need you because I already know the name. 1185 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 2: The name is unapologetically boss. 1186 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I've already said market. 1187 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 2: I love that because you know what, what I feel 1188 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 2: at my core is that everybody has the potential to 1189 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 2: be a boss. 1190 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,799 Speaker 3: And that does not mean. 1191 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,959 Speaker 1: You have to work for yourself. 1192 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 2: You can be a boss inside of someone else's organization, 1193 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 2: You can be a boss in your community, You can 1194 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 2: be a boss in the choir. But what is it 1195 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 2: and how is it that you identify your superpowers to unlock, unload, 1196 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 2: and unleash and to whatever type of change and impact. 1197 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 3: Because where I am right now, it's not about success. 1198 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 3: It's about significance. 1199 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 1: That was a word. Not about success, It's about significance. Wow, 1200 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: cam Ooh that's good. That's where I heard over there. 1201 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cause a lot of times we focus on the 1202 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 2: success part we do. And for me, going back to 1203 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 2: core tenants, I told you take the high road in 1204 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 2: another ferry. 1205 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 3: You know. The other thing is when you do. 1206 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 2: The right things for the right reasons and in the 1207 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 2: right way, God takes care of the rest. 1208 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's good. You just dropping off. I hope y'all. 1209 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 1: I hope you got your collection plate. You're catching all these. 1210 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 2: Nuggets, cause honey, and if you take the collection plate 1211 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 2: and pay it forward. 1212 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: Oh that was we better talk about you better get 1213 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: out of my note. Okay, okay, okay, but I was 1214 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about I was gonna get to that. But 1215 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 1: there's something you I both have in common. We worked 1216 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: in politics. Yeah, I intern when I was a junior 1217 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: in college for Senator Lamar Alexander on Capitol Hill in DC, 1218 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: and then in turn got a job my senior year 1219 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: and I ended up leaving school to finish my last 1220 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: semester online, and I worked for the Senate for two 1221 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: and a half years after school before I moved to Atlanta. 1222 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,560 Speaker 3: Toy, I remember when I learned that. 1223 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 2: You told me all this when we were in Baltimore 1224 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 2: traveling together, and that's when I learned your story. 1225 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 3: And actually that's when I. 1226 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, she's got it. Oh wow, Yeah, and 1227 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: you I found you worked in the Obama and Trump 1228 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: administrations as a member of the National Women's Business Council. 1229 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: First of all, how did that even come about? 1230 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 3: Like, that's so, it's so crazy. 1231 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 2: So I was appointed National Women's Business Council during the 1232 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 2: Obama administration twenty eleven. This speaks to another thing that 1233 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 2: has been fortunate for me in that Donna James was 1234 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,839 Speaker 2: then leading the council. 1235 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: I knew Donna. 1236 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 2: Donna was actually the person who told me that I 1237 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: should going to my business full time. I started my 1238 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 2: agency as a side hustle, and I always tell folks 1239 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 2: your side hustle can become your main hustle, right, But 1240 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 2: she was the one who really pushed me. And I 1241 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 2: was like, man, I'm getting my check every two weeks. 1242 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm good. 1243 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 2: She was like, you have something that corporations pay for 1244 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 2: in the way in which you think differently and are 1245 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 2: able to bring business impact in the sense of driving 1246 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 2: it forward. So Donna was appointed first to lead the 1247 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: council and she called me and she said, I. 1248 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 3: Need for you to serve Wow. 1249 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 2: And what I also say is that one people see 1250 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 2: things in you before you see it in yourself. 1251 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 3: But what I couple that with is that if. 1252 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: You are a known performer again, it goes back. People 1253 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 2: want people on their team designed to win. When I 1254 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 2: was appointed to the council, it was designed it's the 1255 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 2: National Women's Business Counsel. Are three kind of stakeholders are 1256 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 2: the President of the United States Congress and the SBA 1257 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 2: Small Business Administration. So my focus was our focus was 1258 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 2: how do we get more women in the sense of 1259 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 2: access to contracts, Opportunities capital because we are underfunded, yet 1260 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 2: we are the highest and fastest growing population of business owners. 1261 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 2: And when we look at organizations and VC currently under 1262 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 2: attack is the Fearless Fund, you know, And if we 1263 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 2: didn't have organizations like the Fearless Fund or Collab Capital 1264 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 2: where I serve as an advisory member that with Jewel, 1265 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 2: Melanie and that team, they are giving monies to scaled 1266 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:52,560 Speaker 2: founders and areas around innovation and underrepresented groups. Those programs 1267 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 2: and funds wouldn't exist if the monies were going to 1268 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 2: then if you look back at women of color, a 1269 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 2: fraction of one percent goes to female founders. Remember I'm 1270 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 2: a female founder. I'm a black female founder. Founded my 1271 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,639 Speaker 2: business out of a one bedroom apartment, crazy, self funded. 1272 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 2: Nobody gave me any money. I didn't go to mom 1273 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 2: and dad self funded. Now there are programs designed to help, 1274 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 2: there are funds designed to help. And so for me 1275 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,680 Speaker 2: to sit on that council, it became away as a 1276 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 2: catalyst through public policy for me to drive forward that change. 1277 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: And I really and firmly believe that, you know, in 1278 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 2: order for us to look at how we impact, we 1279 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 2: have to have women and men who are courageous and 1280 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 2: convicted who are willing to get in the way to 1281 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,799 Speaker 2: shake it up for others when they can't. 1282 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 3: And so you know, I served on it. 1283 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 2: I was supposed to roll off, but then Carla Harris, 1284 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: who I loved dearly as well, came on and she says, Sis, 1285 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 2: I need you to stay. And I stayed longer and 1286 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 2: extend up my term. And because it didn't matter to 1287 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 2: me who was in the White House, because the women 1288 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 2: who needed. 1289 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 3: The funds hadn't changed. 1290 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 2: And so we need to make sure and this is 1291 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 2: how my position on politics took. You know, we need 1292 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 2: to make sure that we have folks in the room, 1293 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 2: in both rooms, because if we. 1294 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 3: Don't have folks on the other side. 1295 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's speaking up? And how we're driving to change one? 1296 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: That's so good? Wow, no one gets anywhere along. I 1297 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: want to know, who are some people that have played 1298 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 1: pivot rolls. You just spoke up a few that have 1299 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: played pivotal rolls to help you get to where you 1300 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: are today. 1301 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mentioned Donna James, I mentioned the way I 1302 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 2: look at Carla Harris. I serve as a member of 1303 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 2: the Executive Leadership Council. It is a group of black 1304 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 2: officers of the Fortune one thousand that rank within two 1305 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 2: of the chairman of those organizations. At the time when 1306 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Carla was the board chair, they were not really accepting entrepreneurs. 1307 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 2: We were not the basis of how that organization was founded. 1308 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 2: But she said to me, Kim, you know, we need 1309 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 2: people who think differently. And at the time I never 1310 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 2: really thought of myself and going into the organization. Had 1311 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,759 Speaker 2: always been an advocate and a partner outside and driving 1312 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 2: my member companies in the sense of the PMM portfolio 1313 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,640 Speaker 2: because I believed in its mission, and she was a 1314 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 2: primary advocate in me. You know, getting into that organization 1315 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 2: that will take a lot of pride around how we 1316 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 2: change how corporate America does business. 1317 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 3: So Carla Donna, you know. 1318 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 2: I've also had women step up who don't necessarily look 1319 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 2: like me in the sense of our melanin. 1320 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 3: You know. 1321 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 2: It was a woman Asian Philippine from the Philippines that 1322 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 2: put me on. 1323 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 3: My first corporate board. 1324 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah. 1325 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 2: And so again I go back to where I met 1326 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,799 Speaker 2: her at Gwyneth Paltrow. She hosts something where founders get together, 1327 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 2: very small group of us, and we're talking about how 1328 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 2: we change the ecosystem, what it looks like, and also 1329 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 2: just really looking at restoration and where and how we 1330 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 2: build community. Served on a panel afterwards, talked to her. 1331 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 2: She was a former a CEO of care dot Com. 1332 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 2: Spent ninety minutes with her and within six months was 1333 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 2: on my first. 1334 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,879 Speaker 3: Corporate board as a publicly traded corporate director. 1335 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 1: Wow. 1336 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 2: I say that because again, I don't take lightly where 1337 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 2: I am invited into rooms and so mentorship, advocacy, sponsorship, 1338 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 2: While many do it for me, I'm going to do 1339 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 2: a multiplier for others. And so when names come up 1340 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 2: for board opportunities, I bring up names, when names come 1341 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,800 Speaker 2: up for corporate sponsorship, and you know how we look 1342 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 2: at personal service agreements, I bring you know, names up. 1343 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 2: Where I am focused now is just as I go 1344 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 2: back to that significance track. 1345 01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm really big now on where that dash. 1346 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 2: And you know what my life I hope represents is 1347 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 2: I really want to create a lot more black and female, 1348 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 2: not just millionaires multi millions, right, And I believe in 1349 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 2: the power of monetizing content. I believe in the power 1350 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,759 Speaker 2: of media. Yes, I believe that a lot of folks 1351 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 2: sit in positions of talent. I want them to develop 1352 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 2: the rigor and the muscle around business ownership and what 1353 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 2: that means to kind of create currency from their talents. 1354 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 2: You and I were talking the other day and we 1355 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 2: were talking about this whole writer strike and how you 1356 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:37,799 Speaker 2: have learned the power of diversifying your streams of income. 1357 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 1: And I was gonna call you and ask you that 1358 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:40,719 Speaker 1: I was. 1359 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 2: And I was proud again to hear whearing how you're 1360 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 2: doing it. You know, I tell folks, you know, I've 1361 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 2: been fortunate to build wealth in investing in real estate, 1362 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 2: commercial residential, investing in art, developing a collection worth seven 1363 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 2: plus figures. 1364 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 3: When jay Z talked about art, I was like, what 1365 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 3: tell them? 1366 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 1: Jay? Right? 1367 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 2: And through business ownership. Business ownership creates wealth. And so 1368 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 2: when you look at all these different streams and you 1369 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 2: look at the ways, and just like I said, if 1370 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,560 Speaker 2: I had a book passive. 1371 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Income, how am I making money when I'm sleep? 1372 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:36,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 1373 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,679 Speaker 2: And I'm also looking at too, how do I Because 1374 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 2: I sit in a lot of deal flow. 1375 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: They call me deal flow diva. 1376 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Right, I sit in a lot of deal flow. And 1377 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 2: what I say to folks too is I can help 1378 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 2: you with the deal. 1379 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,240 Speaker 3: But I am very true. 1380 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I put myself in a deal. I know 1381 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 2: the value what I do. A lot of people can't 1382 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 2: afford me. 1383 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 1: Right, Hello, Hello, But it. 1384 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 2: Comes to various forms, you know. Yeah, and so do 1385 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 2: you want one hundred percent or nothing? 1386 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Right? 1387 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,439 Speaker 2: Or do you want eighty percent of something that you 1388 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 2: know can change your life? 1389 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: Exactly? I know that's right. We're gonna close with you 1390 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 1: giving just a few tips on what you would tell 1391 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 1: young women who are trying to be business women, just 1392 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 1: like you, get in these corporate spaces, because some people 1393 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: just don't know, you know, trying to navigate certain things. 1394 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 1: What are some tips that you may tell them to 1395 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: even navigate those or even if they're battling with like 1396 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: the institute and fear of like how do I go 1397 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,719 Speaker 1: in these rooms and carry myself? 1398 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you a few nuggets, so one understand 1399 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 2: what you can afford to do and not to do. 1400 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 2: On when I knew what I when I could afford 1401 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 2: to make my side hustle my main hustle. I tell 1402 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:05,640 Speaker 2: folks learn in corporate America, learning wherever else on their die, 1403 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 2: develop the relationships that you may change to where they. 1404 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Become a client. 1405 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 2: Learn systems, look at software look at you know where 1406 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 2: and how you know companies are thinking about innovation. 1407 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 3: Learn AI. We ain't even go there. 1408 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 1: We're not going there because that's why we're on strike. 1409 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: That's part of the reasonhy we're on strike right now. 1410 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 1: Why they can literally scan our faces, take our voices 1411 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 1: and just pay us a small fee and create a 1412 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,600 Speaker 1: whole movie and TV show with everything. They don't need 1413 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: it now. 1414 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, l see see I thought it was like you know, 1415 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 2: see I got the little macro, the writers strike and 1416 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,480 Speaker 2: you know. But but what I will tell you that 1417 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 2: they can Yeah, that part of it is. But let 1418 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 2: me say this, going back to AI, figure out what 1419 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 2: you can do that AI can't. Yeah, because what I 1420 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,759 Speaker 2: will tell you is that there are forms in business 1421 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 2: where AI is going to create efficiencies in business. 1422 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: Oh. 1423 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:18,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, You're not gonna need to pay it's just what. 1424 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound good, it doesn't feel good. 1425 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 3: But that is what it is. 1426 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 1427 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 2: But what I will tell you to going back to 1428 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 2: some of the other things, find a tribe, one that 1429 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 2: understands what it is that you're wanting to do, not 1430 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 2: necessarily the how, but you you're gonna need cheerleaders. That 1431 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they have to be in your day to 1432 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 2: day but it does come in many forms. And when 1433 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: times get hard, you're gonna need someone or some bodies, yes, 1434 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,679 Speaker 2: to help cheer you on. Always invest in continuous learning. 1435 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 2: I mentioned Hard, Cornell, Northwestern, Dartmouth, all of them. 1436 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 3: I continue to invest in my learning. 1437 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 2: So it may not be the ivys, but go take 1438 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 2: a webinar, go on YouTube and learn something and they 1439 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 2: have the ivies now have online courses that you they 1440 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: have that too, and you can go and look up 1441 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 2: different things and find community because a lot of times too, 1442 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 2: there's a great information share across community. For those folks 1443 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 2: who are wanting to go into business for themselves, there 1444 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 2: are tons of programs that actually where there are dollars 1445 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 2: that we. 1446 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 3: Are leaving on the table. 1447 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,879 Speaker 2: Wow, So go and do the homework as it relates 1448 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 2: to grant funding and where and how you may be 1449 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 2: eligible to get support. And then I would say, you know, 1450 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 2: state of course, whether you're working you know, for yourself 1451 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 2: or for someone, there will always be hard times, yes, 1452 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 2: and you have to be so committed to your course, 1453 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 2: unwavering and if your God fearing, like I am, staying 1454 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 2: your word, yeah, because there are so many lessons in 1455 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 2: the word that will guide you and bring clarity to 1456 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 2: chaos that we face on the day to day, you know, 1457 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 2: and you know shoot. 1458 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: For the stars. Yeah, you know. Hey, y'all you got 1459 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,640 Speaker 1: it straight from Kimberly Blackwell. I mean, I don't know 1460 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,719 Speaker 1: what more to tell you or to give you. 1461 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,480 Speaker 3: Okay, it's been fun. 1462 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: It's been amazing. Thank you. 1463 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 3: Wow, can we go eat? 1464 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm so hungry. You know, I'm not eating all day? 1465 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:53,919 Speaker 3: She hustling. 1466 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 1: I had a half a bagel, like literally all day. 1467 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm starving. 1468 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Wait, let me say something before you sign on. And 1469 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 2: I've said it throughout. What I love and what I'm 1470 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 2: seeing is how women and black women are showing up 1471 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 2: for you now on play about Chris and I. You know, 1472 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:28,559 Speaker 2: it's a force that you cannot engineer, and what I 1473 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 2: would say to you is to embrace it and understand 1474 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:45,480 Speaker 2: that the favor that God has put upon your life 1475 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 2: is something that I know that you will steward in 1476 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 2: a way. But just know that you're not doing it 1477 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 2: just for you. You're not doing it just for your family. 1478 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 2: You're doing it for the almost million but will be millions. Yeah, 1479 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,879 Speaker 2: that pay attention to how you live because your life. 1480 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 2: Your life is in the way in what you've seen. Yeah, 1481 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 2: a soundtrack for so many wow oof. 1482 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: Kim Wow. I said what I said. You said what 1483 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,639 Speaker 1: you said, and I received that. I res I mean, wow. 1484 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1485 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 3: I love you. 1486 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I love you too. Thank you so much. Oh my goodness, 1487 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:37,759 Speaker 1: I am so full. Uh. We're gonna do my favorite 1488 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: part of the show, which is called Positive Outcomes, where 1489 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: our listeners write into us and we give them advice. Okay, 1490 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 1: so it's a listener letter and this one says, Hello, Chrystal. 1491 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm a forty nine year old detention sergeant in Polk County, Florida. 1492 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I've been in law enforcement for nearly twenty years and 1493 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 1: want to start a new career. My passion is decorating. 1494 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: I have a decorating business, a travel agency, and I 1495 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: make custom crocs all my part time jobs. My dream 1496 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 1: is to open up my own venue. Since COVID, my 1497 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,760 Speaker 1: business took a huge hit because the venues closed down 1498 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 1: and now they are too expensive to rent. I have 1499 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,599 Speaker 1: been praying asking God to leave me in the right 1500 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 1: direction and provide me with the resources I need to 1501 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 1: open my venue. I'm tired of living in fear of 1502 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,639 Speaker 1: what might not happen and of failure. I'm also tired 1503 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 1: of working in a career that is no longer fulfilling. 1504 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,280 Speaker 1: How do I get over my fear and pursue my dreams? 1505 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's for me. 1506 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 1: Or both of us both. Yeah. So I'll say I 1507 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 1: had the experience working on Capitol Hill. I did it 1508 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 1: for two years, and I got to the point where 1509 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I literally was at my desk responding to constituents and 1510 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? And then, for me 1511 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,600 Speaker 1: in my life, I've noticed when God starts wrestling with me, 1512 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: and I asked myself the question, Christ, what are you doing? 1513 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,080 Speaker 1: It's time to do something. It's time to shift some 1514 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,880 Speaker 1: things around. And I would say that to you, nothing's 1515 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna be easy. I mean, Kim is a prime example. 1516 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 1: She started off in an apartment. Maybe your venue doesn't 1517 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,720 Speaker 1: have to be as big as a scale that you 1518 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,240 Speaker 1: want to start it on or that you see it. 1519 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: It can get there, but maybe you need to just 1520 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,759 Speaker 1: scale now to something that you can afford and build 1521 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 1: up from there. That's what I would say. But I 1522 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 1: also would say, don't just quit your day job. You 1523 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,600 Speaker 1: know you gotta okay bills must be paid exactly, So 1524 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 1: I would work on that. It has to be a 1525 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: side hustle until it becomes your main hustle. 1526 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 2: Yea, all things are you attention on well? And what 1527 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 2: I would add is that you know I am big 1528 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 2: on following my gut, and I do think that there 1529 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:45,799 Speaker 2: are times when you know you may not wanna admit 1530 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 2: or embrace. So if you know that you know without 1531 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 2: a shoutowf of a doubt, that this is what you 1532 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 2: are supposed to be doing, then you stay the course. 1533 01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 2: For me, I feel that, you know, coming out of 1534 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 2: college starting my business, you know, in my early twenties 1535 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 2: from that apartment, I knew that I was in my purpose. 1536 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 2: If this business aligns to your purpose. 1537 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 3: And you see your product as being something that is. 1538 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 2: Differentiated in the marketplace, and you know that you can 1539 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:37,639 Speaker 2: now explore other ways crowdfunding, how you go to friends 1540 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 2: and family to look at ways to raise capital. To 1541 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 2: your point, I always kept my overhead low so I 1542 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 2: didn't start hiring a lot of people. Initially, I contracted people. 1543 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 2: So how do you minimize your expenses so that you 1544 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 2: can continue to invest more into the business So you can't. 1545 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 1: Make the money and go out and buy the burkin Hello. 1546 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well she said, instead, you're gonna have to reinvest 1547 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,679 Speaker 2: into the business, and that's. 1548 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,759 Speaker 3: Gonna be a long time coming. 1549 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 2: Before you upgrade that car or you go get those j's. 1550 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 2: You may be in whatever sneakers you wearing now and 1551 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 2: it'll be a minute. But what I will tell you 1552 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 2: is that if the product differentiation is there, if the 1553 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 2: brand and. 1554 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 3: The consumer demand is there, why your crocs? 1555 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,559 Speaker 2: And in this world to which you know, we're seeing 1556 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 2: it show up in different forms, how do you get 1557 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 2: creative and resourceful? Have you sent crystals some of your 1558 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 2: crocs with hurt million followers? 1559 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:48,640 Speaker 1: Like? 1560 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,080 Speaker 2: How do you use product placement to bring awareness? And 1561 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 2: if you were to get that awareness, could you supply 1562 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 2: to demand. There are a lot of things that sometimes 1563 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 2: we have to. 1564 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 3: Look at and a straight talk yeah. 1565 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 2: That I sometimes think we're not necessarily ready for. And 1566 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 2: that's where the hard questions come. But if you're prepared 1567 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 2: and your gut says this is a part of what 1568 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,080 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be doing, I believe that that passion 1569 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,720 Speaker 2: and purpose. 1570 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 3: Can turn a profit. 1571 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. 1572 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,240 Speaker 3: I love that. 1573 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 1: We do with part what I'm going through and what 1574 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm growing through is so good. And I'll start right 1575 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 1: now just based on this topic that we're talking about. 1576 01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 1: We're going through the strike right now, and I am 1577 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 1: going through a season of reinventing the wheel and trying 1578 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:50,480 Speaker 1: to figure new things out and working on other passions, 1579 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 1: things that I'm passionate about that are going to other 1580 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,799 Speaker 1: hustle that are going to start at the side hustle, 1581 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 1: but I see this ended up being the main hustle, 1582 01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, so looking into that and really researching and 1583 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 1: learning something new because I realize now that while acting 1584 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: brings great money and it provides a great life, it 1585 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 1: also there's a lot of uncertainties in the future of that, 1586 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 1: and I'll need to tap into something that I know is, hey, 1587 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:17,599 Speaker 1: I can't do this, you. 1588 01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,800 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, that's the real But acting will 1589 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 2: come back for you, and it'll come back times three. 1590 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,639 Speaker 3: But to your point, what else? 1591 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 1: What else? Yeah? Yeah, So that's what I'm going through 1592 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and grooving through right now. 1593 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:35,439 Speaker 2: I think going through for me is just that after COVID, 1594 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:41,920 Speaker 2: my business changed where we grew into new areas, and 1595 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 2: so that also meant me finding the right talent and 1596 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 2: skill set because I'm also trying to work differently. 1597 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: I work very hard. 1598 01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 2: And the Nora can have all this hard work, right, 1599 01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 2: My working harder is I'm trying to work smarter and 1600 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm also trying to change lives. So right now, what 1601 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm going through to hopefully get to is my dream team. 1602 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 2: So I am looking for folks who want to work. 1603 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking for folks who want to work because I 1604 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:26,639 Speaker 2: have a My operational excellent standard is high. I am 1605 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 2: not the easiest person to work for because the reality 1606 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 2: of it is is that I'm black. The reality of 1607 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 2: it is is that I'm a woman. So I don't 1608 01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 2: get do overs in my world. And so for me, 1609 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 2: and again not resting on any laurels and knowing that 1610 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 2: people are chasing me, what I put out has to 1611 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:55,000 Speaker 2: be five star, best class, disruptive, impactful, moves the needle 1612 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:59,559 Speaker 2: where you know corporations can count where and how we've 1613 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,439 Speaker 2: driven sales and help to grow market share. 1614 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Right. 1615 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm excited about where I'm going 1616 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:12,360 Speaker 2: to because I have some really cool things in the work. 1617 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 2: But I want I'm at this point where I want 1618 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 2: to change other people's lives, but I'm not. 1619 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,639 Speaker 3: Going to give it away, you know what I mean. 1620 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 3: But I want you know, I'm looking at acquisitions. 1621 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,719 Speaker 2: Do I go buy up some boutique firms because they've 1622 01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 2: shown themselves to be of great value? Do I find 1623 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 2: somebody who actually being your own boss is not always, 1624 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, for everyone? 1625 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,759 Speaker 3: And what I find sometimes is that are folks who. 1626 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:48,639 Speaker 2: Are out here, They're like, you know what, Yeah, I'm 1627 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,720 Speaker 2: ready to go work for someone, and that's okay. What 1628 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,280 Speaker 2: I think we've glamorized is this whole thing about being 1629 01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,200 Speaker 2: your own boss. 1630 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 3: I just want people to be a boss. 1631 01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 1: Period, every position that is. I love that. I love 1632 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,759 Speaker 1: that we do something where we call keep it blank, sweetye, 1633 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 1: where we fill in the blank. Yeah, and this because 1634 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 1: just to play off and keep it positive, sweetie. So 1635 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna say, for me, I'm gonna say for this show, 1636 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 1: keep it significant, sweetie, because you said something. It's not 1637 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:24,200 Speaker 1: about the success, it's about the significance that that stuck 1638 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 1: with me. 1639 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:35,240 Speaker 3: Someone say, wow, she stole my words. Let's see, because 1640 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:44,920 Speaker 3: keep it significant was a good one day, that was 1641 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 3: a good one. 1642 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 1: We can we can use the same one. 1643 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 3: Nah. 1644 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 2: I want to say keep it this is not really 1645 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:06,519 Speaker 2: one word. Keep it in love, sweetie, M because I 1646 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 2: believe if e, if you at your core, do everything 1647 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:11,400 Speaker 2: rooted in love. 1648 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:12,719 Speaker 1: I've told you. 1649 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm true, I'm direct. But if you know my heart 1650 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 2: and my intention is always rooted in love. Ooh, the 1651 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:31,000 Speaker 2: power in how you receive digest everything I do will 1652 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,760 Speaker 2: be taken in its proper contexts. 1653 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: That's so good. 1654 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 3: So keep it in love, sweetie, Keep it in love, sweetie. 1655 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Wow, that was amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, the Kimberly Black Well, 1656 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you so much, so much. 1657 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I hope this episode bless you as 1658 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,680 Speaker 1: much as it blessed me. I'm so excited that I 1659 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 1: got you on the couch a fountain. 1660 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,280 Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, you know, this couch is very powerful. 1661 01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,559 Speaker 2: Like I feel like I went to therapy today. 1662 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,800 Speaker 1: Everybody says that when they sit here. 1663 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder why I might be onto something. You 1664 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:17,719 Speaker 3: might be onto something. St rite or strike case. 1665 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:29,599 Speaker 1: Stop that way, say ching l. Don't put us together. 1666 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:34,920 Speaker 1: Don't put us together, honey, No, but for goods, thank 1667 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in. If you want to 1668 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 1: write into our positive outcomes listener letter right into keep 1669 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: it positive. Sweety at gmail dot com. That is Sweetye 1670 01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,519 Speaker 1: with an ie. You can follow Keep it po sweety 1671 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 1: on all platforms, and you can follow me on all 1672 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: platforms at Love Chris Doorinee and that it's l U 1673 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,960 Speaker 1: V Kim. Let us know where we can find you. 1674 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,200 Speaker 2: At Kim Blackwell, p M M. At Kim Blackwell, Paul 1675 01:37:59,280 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 2: Mary Mary. 1676 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 1: I love that. All right, we are gonna make sure 1677 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 1: they tap in. Guys, please follow Kimberly. I'm telling you 1678 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 1: we're blessed inspired. Every time I go to your page, 1679 01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm inspired to make sure you tap into that Sunday 1680 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,280 Speaker 1: because on Sunday she gonna feed yourself. 1681 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,680 Speaker 3: Oh we go to church beside Baptist, but we go 1682 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 3: to church. 1683 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be in there. Thank you guys so much 1684 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 1: for tuning in and in the meantime, you know what 1685 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 1: to do. Keep it positive, sweetie, See you guys later.