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<v Speaker 1>Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And daphnews Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey you guys, there's

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<v Speaker 2>jump in here and gossip and have memories and when

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<v Speaker 2>we were all fabulous in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>You get to talking about this stuff like remember when

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's an old talk show clip of mine, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of making the round of Norm McDonald, which comes up

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<v Speaker 1>every few years.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was on a talk show with.

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<v Speaker 1>Norm MacDonald talking about a film, an art film I

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<v Speaker 1>did with Carrot Top Calledture of the Board. And Norm

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald leans over mid interview on the Conan O'Brien show

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<v Speaker 1>and says, yeah, bored b.

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<v Speaker 3>O r E D it was. I mean I was

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<v Speaker 3>canceled today we would dis cancel him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, but it was so genuinely funny, like Conan

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<v Speaker 1>keept saying I'm sorry, I'm like, are you kidding getting

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<v Speaker 1>teased by Nor McDonald. I thought it was hilarious and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't you know. I knew the movie was what

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<v Speaker 1>the movie was, so I didn't take it seriously. So

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<v Speaker 1>we thought it would be fun to talk about talk

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<v Speaker 1>show experiences or live TV experiences like what what comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind when you guys think about moments like that,

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<v Speaker 1>when there's this really surprising thing that happened on live

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<v Speaker 1>TV and you just have to kind of roll with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you guys have any stories like that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Norm McDonald, he is that guy. He just

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<v Speaker 4>has the greatest He thinks, if it's funny, say it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't matter if it might be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit like ouch. You know, if it's funny, say it,

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<v Speaker 4>and he does. He was in the SNL cast during

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<v Speaker 4>the time that I hosted Saturday Night Live and.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he doing Weekend Update. He was so extorted. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean miss we miss him so much. Trust and peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Norm.

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<v Speaker 4>He was actually really kind to me. I was on

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<v Speaker 4>the same plane with him flying out to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Really he was just hooking you in so he could

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<v Speaker 2>make fun of you later.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like trying to get material. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 4>like an investor, and there was no shortage of that

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<v Speaker 4>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>On SML.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I got there and they do a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a they it's just a whirlwind of trying

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<v Speaker 4>to put together what the sketches are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>for the week, and you go into these meetings with

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<v Speaker 4>all the writers in the cast and everybody's there and

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<v Speaker 4>they're throwing out pitches of ideas, and it was they're

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<v Speaker 4>sessing you out. They're kind of, you know, assessing what

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<v Speaker 4>can you do and who you are, and it basically

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<v Speaker 4>like was noted, well, you know, since you're so exotic,

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<v Speaker 4>you you know, we should probably do so. And it

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<v Speaker 4>was like very clear that they were going, Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 4>such a plain midwestern person, like made fun of that

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<v Speaker 4>in a way, like okay, let's you know, so like

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<v Speaker 4>I had this goofy, sort of exotic like gypsy sketch

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<v Speaker 4>with Norm MacDonald and anyway. I mean, it was truly

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<v Speaker 4>the most exhilarating experience to the terrifying too, absolutely terrifying

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<v Speaker 4>and exhilarating, unbelievable, and I wish it hadn't been wasted

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<v Speaker 4>on me as a twenty five year old girl who

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<v Speaker 4>twenty's like however old. I was just a wide eyed

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<v Speaker 4>and overwhelmed, and you know, it was just this wonderful

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<v Speaker 4>experience I'll never forget. It's, you know, maybe the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm most proud that I got the opportunity to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 4>It was amazing that you got to do that, but

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<v Speaker 4>talk to those are a whole different live beast anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's so anything can happen, and like for you,

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<v Speaker 4>Court Norm was the other guest on the couch and

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<v Speaker 4>he's interjecting when it's supposed to be kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>your turn to talk about your stuff, and he's interjecting

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<v Speaker 4>doing his thing, and like the unexpected thing that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of have to go with is so.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so much fun because people who haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>them don't know is you have to do this pre

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<v Speaker 1>interview and a good pre interviewer will chat with you

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<v Speaker 1>and make you feel funny. A bad pre interview will say,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me something funny, tell me a funny story, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're still on the spot. So they have an they're

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<v Speaker 1>going for these stories that you're going to tell, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make sound spontaneous. And one time I

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<v Speaker 1>was on I was telling a story about my sister's

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<v Speaker 1>wedding and my dad telling a joke as we were

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the eye and I was on with Don Rickles,

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<v Speaker 1>was Tonight Show and Don Rickles leans over and goes,

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<v Speaker 1>your dad sounds like he's crazy, and my dad loved it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Don Rickles and he teased my dad and that was

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's favorite thing that don.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, he teas me the genius amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what about you, JAF do you like to do them? Daf?

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<v Speaker 2>I there's one that I've seen around that I remember

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<v Speaker 2>doing with David Letterman, and he was like going after

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<v Speaker 2>like my boyfriend. My boyfriend at the time was named Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>and He's like, Billy, Billy, what kind of billy man

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<v Speaker 2>is Billy?

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<v Speaker 3>What does Billy do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, he's a professional, and he interrupted

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<v Speaker 2>me and said wrestler.

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<v Speaker 3>God, I was hoping you were going to say wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy's Billy?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>So what's Billy? Like? I go, well, he's a chef

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<v Speaker 2>and he cooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, what was he cook? What do you eat?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you eat?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just felt so like fish And then he

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<v Speaker 2>went through all these different kinds of fish and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so thrown off, like I thought I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you know, like you said, Courtney, the stories

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<v Speaker 2>that you go through with the producer beforehand, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>then he just came at me and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt a little bit like it was at my expense,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like this young actress

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<v Speaker 2>who is like, you know, has this boyfriend and he

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<v Speaker 2>was making fun of him and the idea of him.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I always helping though, Right, that was Letterman's thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was him being funny, yes, going after it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did get I think it was right after I

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<v Speaker 2>finished uh Melrose Place, because I got to tell him

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<v Speaker 2>everything that Joe did. That's where I say that the baby,

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<v Speaker 2>the back and the fourth and this and that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I gave him up for adoption and uh anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just remember that being like when am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to just be funny on my own?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to respond constantly to his being making joke

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<v Speaker 2>after joke after joke like that in my eyes, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's different like who were your favorites to do? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I always loved doing the View because you got to

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<v Speaker 1>just relax because there it's just like hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>the girls, right, and Conan is so fun and he

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<v Speaker 1>really listens and he's really out there to make you

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<v Speaker 1>look good and have fun.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think what were your favorites to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I had an uncomfortable experience, like you're talking about daff On,

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<v Speaker 4>like where you have an expectation of like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what they said we're going to talk about in the

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<v Speaker 4>pre interview, this is what they said we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about, this is what they said they wanted me

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<v Speaker 4>to do and whatever. And I had one actually with

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Leno and it was as I was leaving Melrose

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<v Speaker 4>after the very final season and I was going on

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<v Speaker 4>the Tonight Show and then it was they somehow in

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<v Speaker 4>the pre interview said I heard you play the trumpet

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<v Speaker 4>or that you used to play. I'm like, oh god, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>did that as a youth in my childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, well would you do this on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>We am like no, no, no, no, this is really

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<v Speaker 4>funny whatever. And they're like, okay, this is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be okay. I like sort of reluctantly agree to do that, so,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, play along whatever. And the premise was like

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to know you're on this show, tell us

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<v Speaker 4>now is he gonna die?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she you know? Is she coming back for another

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<v Speaker 3>season or is she gonna die? I'm like, she's she's dead.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw her die, you know. And they're like oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the trumpet comes out and it's like pedny, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I start to play tax.

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<v Speaker 3>Horrible, Oh my god, because I don't play the trumpet anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever, and he's like all right, up right right, and

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<v Speaker 4>he like and it was just like everything was so like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>you told me I was going to do this, and

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<v Speaker 4>now you're not. And he was like literally like pushing

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<v Speaker 4>the trumpet away, like I'm like that thing you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think I'm going along with a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're like just so hard to anticipate. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope they can find these clips that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to see you with the trumpet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's horrible and it's I'm sure it's findable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible. So these talk shows not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're very intense and it goes so fast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're fun to cook, like Rachel, you would get

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<v Speaker 1>to cook something if you were on uh like I

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<v Speaker 1>did Martha Stewart and I got to make my hummus.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's fun. If you can actually do something exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not trying.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like the late night talk shows are like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, fast, and like if if they feel like

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<v Speaker 4>the energy needs to change, they'll just change it. And

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<v Speaker 4>so you as the guest, because suddenly, you know, going

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<v Speaker 4>along with this new energy that it's really hard to anticipate.

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<v Speaker 4>Doug was being I think he did the Martha Stewart one,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're saying, and she had him fold a fitted sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>Which.

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<v Speaker 4>My husband knows how to fold a fitted sheet to

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<v Speaker 4>this day.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I remember that's something about that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>Doug was on. I to this day, every time I

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<v Speaker 2>fold a sheet, I think, Martha.

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<v Speaker 4>Stewart, you, I'm sure that he's how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The next time I see Doug, I'm gonna have him

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<v Speaker 1>show me how to fold a fitted sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine end up a little lumpy. I did one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I was mortified.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Greg Kannear had a talk show back

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<v Speaker 2>in the days nineties. I did the Greg Kannear Show,

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<v Speaker 2>and right before I was so nervous before we went on,

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<v Speaker 2>I went into the bathroom and I so that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>could hear me pee. I clicked my you know how

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<v Speaker 2>the mic is, there's a mic pad box behind you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it was already miked up, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in there, I'm like, ha, they're not going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>me pee. So and then I just walk out. I

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<v Speaker 2>get all ready and I go back out and we're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there live and Dobby b I come down and

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly somebody goes, what what, Oh, they can't hear you

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<v Speaker 2>and I and they moom a boom comes in and

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess we couldn't redo it. So, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear my wonderful story about the White House

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<v Speaker 2>and everything and stealing toilet paper and all on. Thing

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I just go, oh my god, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to pee and so you could. I just told everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell, I'm so sorry. I turned it off,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, we don't sit around listening to our

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<v Speaker 2>guest pe.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to let you know that's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I still though.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm working on something, you always wear mics now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always turn it off before I pee, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't just remember to turn it back on.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know if the sound guy's just checking mics

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<v Speaker 4>at that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, they should check before you go on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they just stay around between setups, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All they gotta do is go, let's see what old

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<v Speaker 2>Daphne's doing in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, we actually shouldn't even turn it on until

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<v Speaker 3>you go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, remember I used to turn it off and on

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<v Speaker 1>when you leave set.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>But doing it on a talk show.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my god, I was so moreed. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know what was.

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<v Speaker 1>Super fun when we did talk shows to promote this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun to do it with you guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that takes all the pressure off because like, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>having a ball. Then suddenly it's I can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the view or one of those shows where they're the talk.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's a group of women, I'm immediately just relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can do I can hang out with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys all day.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was super easy talk. You're just chatting, you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking in a group.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know that it always seems like it goes

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<v Speaker 2>so fast, Like I think at the top is like

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<v Speaker 2>four two segments, maybe a four minutes or something. So

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<v Speaker 2>when the three of us were doing it, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>all I gotta do is just like they'll turn to

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<v Speaker 2>me and say one thing, you know, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>one thing and kind of spreads out it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just remember doing them, it just goes so fast and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like no, wait, because so you have to learn

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<v Speaker 2>to talk in sound bites, you know, like oh yeah

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<v Speaker 2>you have are you have your PR person and they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so what you kind of do is this, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be like, well, it's funny, you should ask.

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to be spontaneous, but it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not how the system.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember one time I thought, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>and do this show. I'm just gonna be authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to be just myself and not do

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<v Speaker 1>the bit horrible just it was just horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like silence.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, so I do need to do

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of the like sitcom version of me for

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<v Speaker 1>a talk show, because you've got three minutes. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to cut in and hit it. You can't just there's

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<v Speaker 1>no warm up time time. How are you like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no time for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I've never.

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<v Speaker 4>Been more nervous than on any given talk show. Like

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<v Speaker 4>that makes me the most nervous of anything at all,

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<v Speaker 4>more than even like doing Saturday Night Live, which feels

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more like theater, you know, that feels

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<v Speaker 4>like enjoying some Yeah, but talk show nervous is just nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>And even with the three of us.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think as.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, as a genre like talk show, it's very artificial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, guys, Well, since we're all so nervous

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<v Speaker 2>and miserable at it. No, I'm just kidding, we're so.

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<v Speaker 4>I just have to say, I'm so grateful for you

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<v Speaker 4>that we that none of that, Like, we get to

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<v Speaker 4>just sit around and chat and we have none of

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<v Speaker 4>these feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so relaxing, isn't it in our very homes?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>To see you as you have a Melow's minute to

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<v Speaker 4>talk this out.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Great to see you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye guys, By everyone, Bye,