1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, God Save the King, Beautiful London. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL the Week four flagship show. Dan 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: hands us here in a hotel filled with some heroes, 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. We got Justin Graver on the 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: ones and twos and they're Yessica somewhere somewhere, someplace, being helpful. Yes, 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: it is our final show here in London and it's 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: been an amazing week that was topped off by us 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: attending well some of us attending Vikings Saints. And it 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: came down to the final kick, as is fitting given 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: this country's love affair and the surrounding territories love affair 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: with the kicking of the football in this sport of football. 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Mark Um, we did not get to go as a 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: trio to the Sunday game. You and I did. Mark, 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Greg hung back. He wasn't feeling well earlier today, but 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: we had a great, great time at the hot Toddy. 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was such a capping experience the week 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: that we've had, because you know, you spend when you 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: go to a football game, especially as a media person, 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you get there hours before the game and you wander 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: around and we met with I would say, roughly a 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people that have listened to the show 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: for a long time, and it was like, we have 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a really wonderful listener group, a listener collection of people 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: that like are into the show, and like, uh, it 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: was meaningful to do that. And then a game, which 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: I think started kind of slow, started in a strange way, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: just got grew and grew in importance and and sort 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: of fire. And we did miss having Greg with us. Greggy, 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I hope you're feeling better, but uh, we thought about 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: you and a lot of people asked about you throughout 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the day. I mean, it was it was fun to 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: watch it here on TV. It's been a long time. 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: The last time I was at home watching Sky Sports coverage, 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I got in trouble and we had a whole episode 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: making amends for Danil Reynolds for it. But I enjoyed 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: watching it here because you could see sort of what's built, 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: even just through the TV. It just all felt so big, 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Like the game was perfect. Uh. Hearing franchise go nuts, 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: We've got like a top five sanchise clips from today. 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: What was fun too, But more seeing like the Sky 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: coverage and the and the fans that were there. It 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: always like Falcons Jets felt like a super Bowl last year, 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: so I can only imagine by the end of this 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: game the way that it finished with like a game. 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I always just kind of root for one of these 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: games to be like classics, to like deliver for these 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: fans what they want, Like this was a classic. It 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: was great, It was It was a lot of fun. 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to that game and every game 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: that was played on Sunday in week four. Today it 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: is one thirty in the morning here and in London, 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: will be on an airplane headed back to Los Angeles tomorrow. 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Well today, this has been the most bizarre week of 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: my life in terms of trying to figure out what 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: is going on. But that's not your problem, that's our problem. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: We will work through it. But first we're gonna tell 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: you all about the day that was in our league. 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: And yes, why don't we start at the big top 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: at the hot Toddy at Tottenham Hotspur's Stadium where the 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Vikings and Saints did battle. Said extra vinegar on the 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: fish and chips. I hope you had an extra helping 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: of the bankers and mass He's gonna need everything he's 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: gotten that right later and nail that stuck. Good snap, 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: good hole. Let's his kick on the one day double 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and it is over in London. Let's pit bolded around 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: at it fell out five. The Vikings hang on by 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: the width of the crossbar. Great call, Kevin Coogler, with 68 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: of course Mark sanche Sanchez. There a double doink from 69 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: sixty one yards. You cannot make it up. The NFL 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: London games kicked off with a corker as Will lots 71 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: As bid to become the first kicker in NFL history 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: to make sixty plus yard field goals. I'm back to 73 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: back possessions. You know, I didn't look that up, but 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I know it to be true. It just there's no 75 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: way that that is not true. Fell painfully short in 76 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: a loss to the Vikings. Uh here at the hot Toddy. 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: The Vikings regained the lead minutes earlier when Greg Joseph 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: atone for a p a team miss by drilling the 79 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: go ahead forty seven yard field goal with twenty four 80 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: seconds to play, setting the stage after a big crysalave 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: reception for the Dramatics with Lutz mark Um. This was 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: a fun game to be at for many reasons. We 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: stayed at some of them just a couple of minutes ago. 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: But the game itself, like you said, after a slow start, 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: turned into one of the better London games I can remember. 86 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: It really did. And you know, we had a chance 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: to go on field and talk about the game on 88 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: the big screen in front of the crowd. Um. Not 89 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: a humble brag, Greg, just it's just something that was 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: part of our professional duty today. And at that point 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: in the game, my take was just that, you know, 92 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: the Vikings came out of this thing hot touchdown on 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: the opening drive, seventy four yards off thirteen plays. And 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: what I thought the Saints did at one point in 95 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: this game was they really started to show resiliency and 96 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: turn what was a touchdown offense into a field goal offense. 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: Four field goals over five drives for this where the 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Vikings got very close and should have been scoring touchdowns 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: and they weren't. And so the fact that they pulled 100 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: this thing out in the end is a big win 101 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: for them. I I I feel if you're if you're 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: if you're Minnesota, I don't see they're you're a team 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: that's fully there. I just don't. But this is the 104 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: kind of game that could typically in Vikings fashion would 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: have been pulled away from them, and they pulled it 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: out in the end, they got the brakes. I mean 107 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: that's very invitings. I mean this was a very typical 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: NFL game. I feel like if you wanted to give 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: a good example of what the NFL product is right now, 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: this was it. It's like a three point game between 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: two teams that both could be three and one, or 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: both could be one and three. The Vikings happened to 113 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: be three and there there's very little difference. Uh, you 114 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: had your superstars like step up in the big moment, 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson with that huge catch on Lattimore too to 116 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: set up the go ahead Uh points there. Uh, you 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: had a terrible call that may have cost the Saints 118 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: the game. The hands to the face on Tyrone Matthew 119 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: was a total phantom. It's rare that bad calls in 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: the NFL are just clearly bad, Like there's no interpretation 121 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: that it was a hundred percent miss. And they would 122 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: have gotten the ball with the lead with five minutes 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: to go if that call wasn't made. Um and then 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: you hadd and on a lot of fun and weirdness 125 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: and kicking like this is this is the NFL in 126 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the nutshell was one of the worst calls of this 127 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: entire season so far. I think it was the worst. 128 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: If I had to calm down, guys, So a lot 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: of football was played. That was just one play, one call. 130 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: But I was gonna say it is rare. It's rare 131 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: that it's so it's rare that it's like so obvious 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: that it's just like that wrong, got it? So like 133 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you're right. I thought the Saints defense did a great 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: work um keeping this game close while the offense figured 135 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: its way. And Andy Dalton in his first start of 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: the season, I think the jury is still out on, 137 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: you know what, whether he's an upgrade or a downgrade. 138 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: He certainly was very good in the second half. But 139 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: they did not move the ball at all in the 140 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: first half. But I just think it's amazing to me 141 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: when they set up for the first they like I said, 142 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: they set up for to sixty yard field goals, the 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: sixty yarder and then the sixty one yard or uh 144 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: at the gun, and it just shows you, like the 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: kicking game is evolving in the NFL like that would 146 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: be unheard of to me, even five years ago, and 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: now you're regularly seeing coaches sending out their kickers for 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven, fifty eight, fifty nine, sixty, whereas ten years 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: ago you only do that if you absolutely have no 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: other choice at the end of a game or an 151 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: end of half situation. And the fact that he smoked 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: the first one, uh, that was right in front of us, 153 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Greg, right in front of where we 154 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: were sitting in the press box area, and then the 155 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: second one to double doing it's a It's a very 156 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: tough loss for the Saints. Who are you know, they 157 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: are a epic comeback in week one away from an 158 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: oh and four start, but they're one in three and 159 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings, yeah, I agree, um, Greg, they are marked. 160 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: They are not a perfect team, but the NFC in 161 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: general is not perfect, and they're out to a three 162 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: and one start, and I think they're gonna be okay 163 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: and finding just justin Jefferson, making him again the focal 164 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: point of the game plan thirteen targets and including a 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: really well designed rushing touchdown play near the goal line. 166 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Great job there. So I think the Vikings still to 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: me look the part of a wild card type team. Um. Meanwhile, 168 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the Saints, Greggy, I know that you're they are a 169 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: team that you felt very high about. They have a 170 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of work to do. They gotta start finding ways 171 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: to win games because it's gonna get later early for them. Yeah, 172 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll keep starting any Dalton. I think 173 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: that probably will feel a little better with how the 174 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: offense looked under him, especially considering, you know, they didn't 175 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: have Michael Thomas, they didn't have Alvin Komaro. We didn't 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: mention they didn't have Andrew's Pete. Their starting guard Jarvis 177 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Landry didn't really do anything in this game, and yet 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: the ball was coming out a little quicker. I wouldn't 179 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: say Dalton played great either. It was funny listening to 180 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: Sanchez like root for these two guys, Uh Dalton and 181 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: uh Cousins because they're like they're Mark Sanche types. And 182 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: so just when these guys were late on all their 183 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: throws and both both quarterbacks seemed late on every throw 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the entire game, like it was just absolutely killing Sanchez. 185 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: But at least the Saints found a defense, like Marcus 186 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Davenport and Cam Jordan were dominant in this game. I 187 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: think they combined for seven quarterback kids. It was the 188 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: one a thing. It killed me to not be at 189 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: the game with you guys, but I was able to 190 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: put together like a highlight riel for you, Dan of 191 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: some some Sanchiz moment Sundays with Sanchise. Yeah, I mean 192 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: I I filled that role for you today. That that 193 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: that was me. What do we got about camp? Jordan 194 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: looked like he's trying to find the baby and the 195 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: kid kick and Marty Girl, trying to figure out what 196 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the heck is going on back there. Then he sees 197 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins with the ball rifles just turned into a 198 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: sniper rifle. Holling smokes a little extra vinegar on his 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: fish and chips man to extra yards. You know, he's 200 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a discount Tony Romo vibe 201 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: going for him. And I mean that. I know it 202 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: doesn't sound a compliment, but I do mean it as 203 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: a compliment. I think that's I said, that's a that's 204 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: a good categorization to put him into. I enjoyed it. 205 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it very much. All Right, we'll get back 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: to some thoughts about this game and some sights and 207 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: sounds from the Hot Toddy on Sunday, But let's next 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: a little bit later. But next, let's move on now 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: to another big game. This one happened in Philadelphia, Eagles 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: looking to stay undefeated. Lawrence, here the gun, he's back, 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: he steps up, he's head. He fumbled the football, but 212 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I think he hasn't. Let's see now the Eagles have it. 213 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: That will be the game. The Eagles have it, Lawrence, 214 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: to dut get on it. You put the olness on 215 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: your defense and your deeper harding Harper, Meryl Reason, Mike 216 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Quick all amped up on w I P. The Eagles 217 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: sports Trevor Lawrence into five turnovers, four of them on fumbles, 218 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: including the game clinching turnover on a Hassan Reddick sack 219 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: in the final two minutes to security over the Jaguars. 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Greg The Eagles spotted Jacksonville the first fourteen points of 221 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: this game, but their opportunistic defense at Shirt Philly would 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: remain the only undefeated team in football. Yeah. I came 223 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: into this game like thinking, like, well, which of the 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: big tough football teams like well be tough for both 225 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: offensive lines are good, both defensive lines are good. And 226 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: it's like in terms of that battle, it was not 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: a battle at all. The Jaguars came into this game, 228 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, first and rushing defense by far, and they 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: end up giving up two ten yards on the ground 230 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: to the Eagles. Like they had protected Trevor Lawrence pretty 231 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: well all season, uh, in terms of their past protection. 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, Lawrence fumbled four times. One of them was 233 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: a snap it was definitely rainy conditions, but the other 234 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: three were strip sacks as Son Reddick with two of 235 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: them in the second half, like he seemed like he 236 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: had to essentially game clinching uh. Forced fumbles, But the 237 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Jags defense and the Jags offense at least like kept 238 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: them in it for a minute. And yet it to 239 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: me it kind of felt like, Okay, the Eagles, like 240 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: having faced any adversity all year, like, let's see how 241 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: they respond and yeah, like twenty nine grade points, that's 242 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: how they responded. There was the James Bradbury interception was 243 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: huge in this too. I I just like, looking at 244 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: both quarterbacks, I know there was a lot of weather 245 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: factor in this. UM doesn't change the way you feel. 246 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Jalen Hurts has been I had 247 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: have been number two in the QB and next thing, 248 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal this season. Do you look at him 249 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: or Trevor in this game and just say it changes 250 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the way you feel about them? Or was it more 251 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: just this was a rough Sunday relatively for both of 252 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: them compared to where they had been a week ago. Well, 253 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was a step forward 254 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. I know that numbers don't look great, 255 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: but the fact that he ended up come on take 256 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: off the eiggles glasses. Okay, how was it that? How 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: was it when there's when there's other games that are 258 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: in like a driving rain storm, like we just give 259 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: teams a pass when it's like eleven to ten at 260 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the end of the game, like Jalen Hurts was maybe 261 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: the main reason why they came back and put twenty 262 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: nine up on him. They double them up in terms 263 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: of yardage, Like there isn't another quarterback in the league. 264 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: I think on fourth down where their coach goes for 265 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: it that's able to like run over the defender on 266 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the goal line quite like Jalen Hurts did in the 267 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: rain and like and that to me was a turning point. 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: He made a lot of good throws in this game. 269 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, despite the weather, I mean it was really raining. 270 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, A J. Brown goes five, got it goes 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: five for seventy two, Like, yeah, I thought he played well. 272 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: They lost too offensive linemen, including their left tackle, Like 273 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: right away, they overcame a lot and people were like, oh, 274 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: they haven't been tested. It's like, okay, that's fine. Uh, 275 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: now they were tested and then they weren't really tested 276 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: by the end of this. I mean, you gotta have 277 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: games like this, right right. No, I only say that 278 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: because he's been so brilliant um that it's it's hard 279 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: to take a step up from where he has been. 280 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, certainly the weather is a factor. And I 281 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: think again, obviously you're getting a lot of credit being given, 282 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: and rightfully so for the Eagles two hearts. Who's an 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: m v P favorite to this great dynamic one to 284 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: punch at wide receiver with a J. Brown and DeVonta 285 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Smith And then you have Dallas Goddard in the mix 286 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: making plays as well. But I think one thing that's 287 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: under the radar still is that Miles Sanders has been 288 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: so great so far this year. This is a guy 289 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago broke out and looked 290 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: like he had a chance to be knocking on the 291 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: door of the Superstar club. He took a big step 292 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: back last year and never found the end zone once 293 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the whole year, had injury issues, and in this game, 294 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: in a driving rainstorm and bad weather at times four 295 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: greg and two touchdowns, he's been another revelation for them. Yeah, 296 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: and and that I think goes to the point that 297 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: like they could play this ugly style better than jackson 298 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: toll Like they can beat you with the passing game, 299 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: but at certain points in the game they were just 300 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: going read options, screen and running the ball the whole time. 301 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Like they just turned back into the Eagles, And it's 302 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: nice to be able to have that option, especially when 303 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: you're down fourteen. Nothing like after that first quarter it 304 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: was basically all Jacksonville and then two two more or 305 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: less dominate the next three quarters. I think it was 306 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: like a show of force. And do you put we 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: talked about Lawrence a little bit here, but if this 308 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: has played in regular conditions or nice conditions like today 309 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: in London, which was absurdly beautiful for a day that 310 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: was supposed to be raining all day. Um, is it 311 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: a five turnover day or how much does that do 312 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: you put on the weather the way. This worked for Lawrence, who, 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: by the way, took a huge step forward himself last 314 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: week and obviously didn't work out for him today last 315 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, I I've been a little hesitant to 316 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I think Lawrence has been a part of what's gone 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: great for them. Um, but he hasn't been, to me, 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: like a top eight or nine quarterback in the league 319 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: yet this season. Uh he held the ball too long today, 320 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was crazy conditions. I think you put 321 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: some of that on him. Uh, that was still a 322 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of it was just decision making. It wasn't like 323 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: accuracy on throws. Alright. So the Eagles remain undefeated. The 324 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars come back to earth a little bit, but still 325 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: remain frisky. Are they spicier? They frisky? It's so funny 326 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: because I was writing, I literally wrote a note Jags spicy, 327 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: not frisky. But that was about at fourteen seven, So 328 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I might I might have to change it. We gotta 329 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: get we gotta get to the bottom of that. I'm 330 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: leaning towards downgrading them from spicy to frisky. But again, 331 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to say what is what at this time. Uh. 332 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, let's move to figure out what is 333 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: what when it becomes when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens, 334 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: who had another chance to knock off an a f 335 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: C rival and saw it go sideways in a big spot. 336 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: Here we go with three seconds left. The snap is 337 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: down Tyler Mass, the kick is up, the kick is good. 338 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: The clock says zero. The Bills have wanted in Baltimore. 339 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: The Bills came from seventeen points down to beat the 340 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Unbelievable. What a game, John Murphy w g 341 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: R with the call. Yep, the Bills got it done. 342 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: They forced the big fourth down turnover. Josh takes over 343 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: at the twenty and drives his team down the field 344 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to the goal line. Tyler Best makes that short field 345 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: goals time expires. They win in Baltimore. There's a game 346 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: that Buffalo is down twenty to three in the second quarter. 347 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: UH and it is the largest comeback win for the 348 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Bills according to the AP, since they erased a twenty 349 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: one point deficit to beat the Pats eleven years ago. UH. 350 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: A bit a lot of drama at the end of 351 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: this game, because, like I said, the Bill has got 352 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: a big fourth down turnover um at the other end 353 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: of the field at the goal line where the Ravens 354 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: had a chance to go up three with a chip 355 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: shot field goal from Justin Tucker, and then asked their 356 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: defense to hold. Instead, John Harbaugh decides to go for it. 357 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: Lamar drops back to pass, doesn't find anybody, throws the interception, 358 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and then the Ravens can't get a stop and that's 359 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: what leads to the loss. Afterwards, uh facing a line 360 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: of questioning about his decision not to just kick the 361 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: field goal and take the lead. Here's what Harbor had 362 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: to say. You kick a field goal there. Now it's 363 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: not a three down game anymore. It's a four down game, 364 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: and you're putting them out there're putting your defense on 365 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: a disadvantage because they've got four downs to convert all 366 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: the way down the field and a chance against Core seven. 367 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: And then you you lose the game on a touchdown. 368 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: So and then the worst thing, the other thing, you 369 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get the ball to two yard lines. 370 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: So I'm very cot in our defense defense's ability stopping 371 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: down there with the ball in the two yard lines. 372 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: So we got them backed up. If we don't get 373 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: it didn't turn out that way, unfortunately, and we lost 374 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: the game. So hindsight, you can take the points, but 375 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: if you look at it analytically, I understand why we 376 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: did it. Curious where you guys come down on this. 377 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I didn't love the play call, 378 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: which was just a straight Lamar Jackson dropped back. But 379 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: even then, uh, Devin du Verney was open uh for 380 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: a moment, and Lamar didn't see him before he made 381 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: the past that led to the turnover. Um, what were 382 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts about this, Greg when you watched it? Did 383 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: you think this is the play here? Yeah, especially the 384 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: way that game going. I wouldn't have faulted them for 385 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: kicking the field goal just because they hadn't literally put 386 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: any points on the board and so long that that 387 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I would understand it. Uh. But I also always abscribed 388 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: to like, let your players try to win the game. 389 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: Let Lamar Jackson try to win the game. There's no 390 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: rule your defense has to go give up a touchdown 391 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: drive to Buffalo. Right there they did. I'm with you. 392 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean they opened strong touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, 393 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and then they went totally dark, And so you're you're 394 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: searching at that point for a way out, and I 395 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: think it's it's sort of two offenses where you feel like, look, 396 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: whether it's Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, you don't want 397 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: to give either one of them a chance in the end. 398 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: It sort of reminds me of the game the Browns 399 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago, where everyone's telling Nick Chubb, 400 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you gotta go down, take in and not score, and 401 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: that's exactly what what the what Buffalo did and it 402 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: worked for them. I mean, it was just kind of 403 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see um as a long time a f 404 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: C North follower, Marcus Peters essentially going after John Harbaugh 405 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: after the game. This is the stuff that's reserved for 406 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: teams in total chaos. You just don't see that that often, 407 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: not especially not from teams like the Ravens, like the Steelers, 408 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: where the coach is high and mighty and it's very 409 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: rarely questioned and and and to see it at times 410 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: of volatile and individual we know that he is he is, uh, 411 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: but I guess again, even with him inside the Ravens system, 412 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: he hasn't been the way he's been in other places. 413 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: But just the fact that like players just simply did 414 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: not agree with the way that that thing went down 415 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: coaching wise, and Harbaugh said after that, the two of 416 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: them are on the same page. I mean, I guess 417 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: they were later, they weren't at that moment. And it 418 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: was just an interesting ending. And it's I think we 419 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: live in a world now too, where people weren't judging 420 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: coaches and analytics and final moments and decisions this way. 421 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: But now you're under such a microscope that and if 422 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: you're John Harbaugh, you've got a ton of questions to 423 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: answer about how this game unfolded. In the end, there 424 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: was a big roughing the passer call that wiped out 425 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: I believe it was gonna be a second fifteen year 426 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: midfield for Buffalo on that final drive, and I think 427 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: they did. Actually, um, the Ravens had a chance to 428 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: let the Bill score and then uh they had a 429 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: tackle of Devin's Singletary at the three yard line, a 430 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Daffi away Um brought down Singletary. That you could have 431 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: let him in there, and then maybe you give your 432 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: quarterback one more chance. But like Greg, you're saying, they 433 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: didn't score in the second half, so then you're asking 434 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: them to do that. The one. The only thing I'll 435 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: take exception to um in terms of what Harbas said 436 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: was the logic was I understand it. He's basically saying 437 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: the analytics say to do it that way because you 438 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: even if you don't get it, they have to go 439 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: ninety eight yards. That didn't happen, first of all, because 440 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: there was the interception that made it a touchback. But 441 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the other thing is you don't get it. Your opponent 442 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get four downs down the entire field. It's a 443 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: three point game, so it's really it's four downs until 444 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: you get basically a little past midfield. Then it becomes 445 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: a three down and stop situation and you you could 446 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: hold him to a field goal. Um, I don't know. 447 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: It's it was a very interesting decision and he would 448 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: have been praised too high Heaven for it if it worked. 449 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: It didn't, and that's just the way it goes sometimes, right, 450 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: Like what what was happening in this game? That Lamar 451 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: only ends up with a hundred and forty four yards 452 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: passing on twenty nine throws and Josh Allen, for that matter, 453 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: only ends up with two on thirty six throws. Like that, 454 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: everything about this game, including that ending, You mentioned oh way, 455 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: by the way, did confirm that they were told to 456 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: let them score or try to strip the ball, and 457 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: he said he's sort of mistakenly tackled him by trying 458 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: to strip the ball. But he said he was trying 459 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: because you could see the teammates go up to him 460 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: and be like, what the hell, man, why why did 461 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: you do that? But to to what you just said, 462 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens hadn't scored all all game, anyone 463 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: thinking that that cost him the game, that they probably 464 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: weren't going to score a touchdown there anyways, all right, 465 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: we'll see if these teams meet again come January. Let's 466 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: take our first break and then we'll return with one 467 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: of our friends from America. Rush under pressure, he got twining, 468 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: he walked a dog thirty on a touchdown. Bradsham the 469 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: sham God with the call on k R L D. 470 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush he did it again, filling in for the 471 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: injured Dak Presscott rushed through a touchdown. Did Michael Gallup 472 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: and his return to the lineup, and yes C. D. Lamb, 473 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: who has really stepped up the last couple of weeks. 474 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: In the end, it was a ten win over the commanders. 475 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: And now to talk that game, we welcome in a 476 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: man from the hard scrabble streets of Cleveland, the great 477 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Nick Shook Shook Ee. That's three wins in a ro 478 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: O for Cooper Rush. You buying into Russiamania, russ Manias 479 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: as long as it lasts until Dak Prescott is healthy 480 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: to play again. I'm not buying Jerry Jones trying to 481 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: push this quarterback controversy just to keep his team in 482 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: the headlines, because we're gonna write about them regardless of 483 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: what he says, and so I'm not I'm not not 484 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: jumping jumping on this train here. Guys are looking like 485 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: at you a t N writer, Yes, yes, exactly. You know, 486 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I gotta fight for my territory here. He did have 487 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: a great gay though. I mean a hundred and seven 488 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: point five passer rating that's pretty darn good. It's statistically 489 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: as a team it's not super impressive, but it was 490 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: a total team victory against a squad that I think 491 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: they're just better than, no matter whether it's Cooper Rush 492 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: or Dak Prescott playing. And uh, you know, you gotta 493 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: get a lot of credit to their defense as well, 494 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: because I think they looked at last week's game that 495 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: Commanders played against the Eagles and all those sacks they 496 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: racked up, and they saw it as an invitation and grant. 497 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: They only sacked Carson Wentz twice, but they pressured him 498 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: on overt of his dropbacks, so he was harassed all day. 499 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: Their offense couldn't do much. Every time. You know, I 500 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: got multiple games on and every time I look over, 501 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: I see Carson Wentz dropping back on third and long 502 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: and he's just getting pressured from all directions, the right 503 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: tackle repeatedly getting beaten by Michael Parsons. It was just 504 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: not a good day for Washington. It's another good day 505 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: for Dallas and Cooper Rush, who is not only three 506 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: and oh this year, but the first Cowboys starter to 507 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: win his first four career games with the Cowboys first 508 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: four career starts with the Cowboys, Cooper Rush, but still 509 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: not buying that controversy nonsense, get that out of here, 510 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: all right, here's another stat. Here's another stat. Because you 511 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: mentioned the defense is stepped up. They have. They are 512 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the reason that the season was saved when everything looked lost. 513 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: After it looked terrible against Tampa and the quarterback heads 514 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: to the operating room. The Dallas defense has not given 515 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: up more than seventeen points in a game during Russia's 516 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: run a starter, it's the first time the defense has 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: held the team's first four opponents. The nineteen points are 518 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: lessons nineteen seventy three. So we talked about this, Greggy. 519 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: We talked about entering the season how the offense was 520 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: a question mark, but the dfense could be trusted, and 521 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly how that's played out so far. The shot. 522 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I think they've been even better than expected. I mean, 523 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: Parsons isn't better than expect that, he's just great, But 524 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: they're deeper at linebacker. I think they're deeper on the 525 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: defensive line that the secondaries, you know, has great continuity. 526 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: I think everyone gets excited now to play the Commanders, 527 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: who look like one of the worst teams in the league. 528 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: But and that's what this game um got me thinking. 529 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: I watch Washington and I think they're not a well 530 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: coached team, like especially on defense, and they have in 531 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: theory a defensive minded head coach. I just don't sense 532 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: there a well coached team. There's always guys looking at 533 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: each other and they're like, what why are you doing? 534 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: That you know, there's they're always yelling at each other 535 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: on the Washington defense trying to figure out what's going on, 536 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: whereas you look on the flip side, Dan Quinn is 537 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: one of the best coordinators in the league. And I 538 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore and you gotta give your boys, Zaddy 539 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in the Grateful debt looking hat today some 540 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: credit because I think, you know, they have done a 541 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: nice job managing what they have on offense with Cooper Rush. Yeah, 542 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: I would say that, Um, you know, in this game, 543 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: you know what you have. You know what you have 544 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: in in in terms of Cooper Rush and how what 545 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: he's he's capable of doing. But it was really nice 546 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: to see Michael Gal get back into the fold because 547 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: this is a guy who, you know what you want 548 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: to go back to the a T and writer thing. 549 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I've been writing about him potentially playing this week for 550 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: the last month and he finally actually played this week. 551 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah and uh, and he finally made He was able 552 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: to play and make a contribution catch his first touchdown pass. 553 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: They get a little bit stronger at receiver, which then 554 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: helps Cooper Rush get better as a quarterback. You know, 555 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: he's relied on Noah Brown. He got to see Lamb 556 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: a few times. They had their offense had some nice rhythms. 557 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: The only difference between really him at quarterback and Deck 558 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: at quarterback is that they haven't been able to finish 559 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: as many drives, which is what shows up in the 560 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: total offensive numbers. You stall out a lot just outside 561 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: of field goal range, just on the edge of field 562 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: goal range. Brett Mo has been very good for them, 563 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: uh in that regard. So I'm curious to see if 564 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: that offense takes the next step when Dac does come back. 565 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, who would imagine that they'd be defeatd 566 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush at quarterback right now? We were writing 567 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: them off as soon as Dak got hurt. So it's 568 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: a really good development for them. Sure, I was a 569 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: little bit like when Cooper Rush came in for Dak 570 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Prescott in that first game, he looked completely lost, And 571 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: so what we've seen since is remarkable. Last week with 572 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, what I really found encouraging was they the 573 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: way they ran the ball, and just looking at the 574 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: numbers today and just tell me what you saw, I mean, 575 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: you've got essentially like they fell off a cliff on 576 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: that front is is that needs to be a strength 577 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: of the offense. But it's almost more impressive the Cooper 578 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Rush pulled off what he did with zero almost zero 579 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: ground hill. Yeah, it's almost as if they responded to 580 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: last week's tape by effectively running a lot of play action, 581 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of rollouts and types of things that got 582 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: guys crossing across, you know, over the field to get 583 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: guys open, and more of a flow of an offense 584 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: where your play action a lot and and getting guys 585 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: open that way because they weren't running the ball effectively. 586 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that Washington can kind of 587 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: hang its hat on, not on a per down basis, 588 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: but every and almost every game I've seen them play 589 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: this year, they've been pretty stiff up front against the run. 590 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Not every single game, but I mean you go back 591 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: to you know, earlier in this season when they weren't, 592 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: but today especially, they were better up front, and Dallas 593 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: adjusted accordingly. All right, Chookie, let's now head to Atlanta 594 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: where your brownies were attempting to go three and one. 595 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh but those frisky, frisky Falcons they were there standing 596 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: in the way. Brissette dropping again, throwing and it isn't accepted. 597 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: D offer holy smokes. Fifty five seconds left and d 598 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: offered one of the great stories on this Falcon roster 599 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: has a moment. Yes Western w c g C with 600 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: the call. It was d Alford stepping in front of 601 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: the Jacoby Brissette pass in the fourth quarter, with the 602 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: interception clinching for the Atlanta Falcons, who scored points on 603 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: their final three drives to take a win away from 604 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: the Browns, a game the Browns had been in the 605 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: lead at one point, Shookie, how did this came play out? 606 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Was this a back and forth affair where you felt 607 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: these were two fairly even teams or another one that 608 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: the Browns like it. This is the game in which 609 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: the Browns spot of the Falcons tenorly points by driving 610 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: all the way down the field, having command of the 611 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: football and coming away with nothing, by going forward on 612 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: fourth and goal, then giving up three fumbling the on 613 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: the first play after the kickoff and giving up a touchdown, 614 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're down tend to nothing, 615 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: then reversing the field entirely taking command of the game, 616 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: tying up before halftime, and then again failing to maximize 617 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity on first and goal from the one yard line. 618 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: That's the Browns left the ton of points out on 619 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: the field today, and that's credit to Atlanta's defense for 620 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: stiffening up in in key situations. DMPs. We know what 621 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: he does as a defensive coordinator. But when the Browns 622 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: look back at this, they're gonna really regret that they 623 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: lost this game, just because they had enough opportunities to win. 624 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: And when it came down to it, when they were 625 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: down by a field goal, everybody knew it was gonna 626 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: happened because he just saw it happen two weeks ago 627 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: into the Jets. They're not a team built to come back. 628 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: They're not even a team built to come back from 629 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: down three points in the final two minutes because they're 630 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: not good enough as a passing offense to be able 631 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: to make up that ground. So Jacobe Prisett rolls out. 632 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: I knew he's gonna throw a pick if there's a 633 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: throws a pick game over, and that's who they are 634 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: right now. They can control it on the ground early 635 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: and that's it. Well, I hear the fan frustration in 636 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: their shookie, But hasn't Brissette been really good overall, at 637 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: least entering this game. Yeah, I know that he had 638 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: the late interception against the Jets, but you had seen 639 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: some real strides, especially as chemistry with the Mark Cooper 640 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: and the joke who had been making plays. Uh step 641 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: back on that front, I imagine. Yeah, I mean he 642 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: was good in key situations. They shortened their offense. It 643 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: was a running game. It was checking down, it was 644 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: ripping the occasion one down the field like he had 645 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: to Donovan People's jones. Passing reading would have been a 646 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: lot better if not for that interception at the end. 647 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: But the key component here in they're passing game and 648 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: why they struggled to put points in the board today 649 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: A j Terrell shut out Amari Cooper essentially shut him out. 650 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: He gave up I think, what was it, one catch 651 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: on the day, one catch for nine yards. So he 652 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: was a non factor and that really hurt their offense. 653 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: But you can't put it on said, it's just the 654 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: fact that he made the game deciding turnover by throwing 655 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: the pick. I hated this going in for Cleveland. When 656 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: you don't have Miles Garrett, you don't have Clowney, you 657 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of depth at the edge rusher 658 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: position to begin with. But I want to ask you 659 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: something because I think we've all Greg and I at 660 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: least have talked about the Falcons and Dan too. But 661 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: like we talked about the Falcons as a spicy offense 662 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: that I think is really well coached, and I think 663 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: if Arthur Smith is a very creative. Kevin Stefanski came 664 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: out of this game with a lot of critique that 665 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter, just the way he handled this 666 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: game in general. Like, who do you think right now 667 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: is quietly the better offensive coordinator, the better offensive mind 668 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: between Stefanski and Arthur Smith. I think it might be 669 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. Stefanski seems to cost the brand and the 670 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Browns games here and there. Stefanki gets cute with his 671 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: play calling. Arthur Smith has and it's too cute. Arthur 672 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: Smith has maximized the players that he's had in his 673 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: offense in his first two years in Atlanta, especially last year. Hey, today, 674 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: he just said, you know what, not running the ball 675 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: with Cordello Patterson. Let's go to the young guys, Caleb 676 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Huntley and get on the field. Field, Tyler lg Or 677 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: get on the field. Let's run the ball fourteen straight 678 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: times because that Brown's defensive front three fourth of its 679 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: starting line out of the game, We're gonna run it 680 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: right down, absolutely disrespectful, and that's how they really got 681 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: back into this game and really took command. I like 682 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: that you're bringing took command into the conversation with can't 683 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: do trying to take it away from making it exactly 684 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: what happened with Cordell Patterson in this game. By the 685 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: way I saw, he scored an early touchdown, but he 686 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: wasn't on the field near the end. Did he have 687 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: a setback with that? Not that I had heard, And 688 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: he looked like he was fine. Uh, It's just that 689 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily getting much going on the ground with him. 690 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: The Browns were pretty prepared. They were they were bottling 691 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: that up, and then they turned to more of your 692 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: traditional smash mouth runners. That Huntley kid, I'm telling you, man, 693 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: he ran really hard getting the extra yards as part 694 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: of that drive where they ran it ten straight plays, 695 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: ten straight runs right down the field. I couldn't blame 696 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: him for going to those two guys and really just 697 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: pounding the rock while having a guy who, like you said, 698 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: has with a knee issue you keep them on the 699 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: sideline if you're finding success without him, all right, you okay? 700 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: Right now with the Browns, would you sign off front 701 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: two and two? I feel like you probably wouldn't, but 702 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: it's been kind of a super frustrating two and two. Um, 703 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: the Browns could be oh and four and they could 704 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: be four now, like they could be anywhere. Right, they 705 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: are an average team with a quarterback who's maximizing his 706 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: abilities right now, and they just are what they are 707 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: and until that changes, that's what they're gonna be. They're frustrating. 708 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: They should have won this game, and they should have 709 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: won the Jets game. And I'm not seeing there are 710 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: four no type team, but like that to be two 711 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: and two with the way they lost those two games 712 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of coaching going on there. Well, 713 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: it could be worse. He could be the Ravens and 714 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: blow a seventeen point lead on Sunday and blow what 715 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: what was the lead that they had to Miami that 716 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: they've literally like that entire division feels like they've missed 717 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. It was not a good Sunday 718 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: for the a f C North in generals will get 719 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: to a little bit later, Shookie, we're going to have uh, 720 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you on for Sunday night football, But 721 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: why don't we keep you on for another game we 722 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: could use to help on this wild Sunday for around 723 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. From London, let's head to Charlotte, snap to Murray, 724 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw and it's a fade right side for Crown 725 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: and the ends on Brown haws it in and it's 726 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown. What a catch by Hollywood does a snow 727 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: angel on the ground in celebration after just the phenomenal 728 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: catch for probably the dagger in this ball game they 729 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: passed for the call k M v P. Mark sess. 730 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you on this one because I 731 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: know you were tracking this as well. Not a not 732 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: a flying start for the Cardinals offense, which has been 733 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: the case all season long, but they did come on 734 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: in the end and take care of a pretty bad 735 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: passage team. Sixteen final Kyler finished to US seven and 736 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: two touchdowns added a rushing score as well. So how 737 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: did this game feel to you? Mark? Was this is 738 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: just the the Cardinals figuring things out in time before 739 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: they had another disaster on their hands. I thought they 740 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: figured things out in time. I mean, I I saw 741 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: two teams sort of searching for what they are and 742 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: what they want to be this season, and you know, 743 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: shook you. And I've watched a lot of Baker Mayfield, 744 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: we all have, and I thought Baker Mayfield just proved 745 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: once again that he is just having one of the 746 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: most meltdown, e regressive seasons you could possibly imagine. And 747 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: it's not all him, but he's baked inside this offense 748 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: where I mean, of all the people. J. J. Watt, 749 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: who went into the hospital during this week for a 750 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: massive heart condition, um had a tipped ball that turned 751 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: into a Baker Mayfield interception, had another tipped ball on 752 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who threw a who created a series of 753 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: like very costly turnovers in this game. And it just 754 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: put Kyler Murray and the Cardinal's offense that also was 755 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: just searching for itself from must much of the contest 756 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: into a much better place in the second half, and 757 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: they took a position, they had a couple of short 758 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: fields that they took advantage of. I mean, there was 759 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: also a moment where Kyler Murray, uh like clearly in 760 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: his headset was flipping out on Cliff Kingsbury. I mean, 761 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of frustration by both these teams, and 762 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: it's like one team sort of found their way out 763 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: of it, but it gave me zero increased trust and 764 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: really either of them. Kyler Murray is an incredible talent, 765 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure he's really at a place in 766 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: his career where he can rescue the Cardinals offense alone. 767 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: He did today because of the position they were put in, 768 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: because Baker Mayfield simply should not be a starting quarterback 769 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: with the way he's playing right now. In my opinion, Yeah, 770 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: this is I was really curious and wanted to do 771 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: this game a because I'm a glutton for punishment and 772 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: I've done every Panthers game this season and it just 773 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: gets worse and worse every week. But also more importantly, 774 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: these are two of the worst teams in the first 775 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: half offensively in the NFL. They both come out sleep walking, 776 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: They struggle to put points in the board. They combined 777 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: for a whopping six points in the first half because 778 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the only touchdown on the board was scored on a 779 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: defensive touchdown by Frankie Luvu. So I wanted to watch 780 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: that because of this, But what I saw was more 781 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: of the same, which is what you just just described. 782 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield continuing to regress. Maybe it wasn't the injuries 783 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: last year in Cleveland. Maybe he really is not a 784 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: good quarterback anymore. The batted passes at the line are 785 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: it's death taxes. Baker Mayfield getting passes battered down at 786 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. It's just a week by week thing. 787 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: No matter who they're playing, they all know the same 788 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: game plan. Clog up the passing windows, put your hands up. 789 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna knock passes down. They gotta pick off of 790 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: it today. But he's out a sink. It's to the 791 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: point where I don't even have to be hard on 792 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. You don't have to be hard. Nobody out 793 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: outside the team has to be anymore. The fans will 794 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: boo him and let him know in the fourth quarter 795 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: of a game in which they're struggling again, and you're right, 796 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: it's not all on him, But it starts at quarterback. 797 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: This offense has no rhythm, and they have enough talent 798 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: to be better than they are right now. I don't 799 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: see a light at the end of the tunnel for 800 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: these guys. I think they're on a long road toward nowhere. 801 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: Right there was an incredible stat in this game. The 802 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: Panthers right now sit at one in twenty six under 803 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: Matt rule. When the opponent scores seventeen points, that's not 804 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: a lot in the NFL. One in twenty six. They've 805 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: lost twenty four in a row. In that case, there's 806 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterback play situations going on in there. 807 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: But I mean, they're a team that, I mean has 808 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: not figured it out in years in a row. And 809 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm the Baker Mayfield thing is not a solution. I 810 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I think you've hit on it there, Mark. 811 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: I think it is the quarterback play. I I know 812 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: rules part of it, but I mean it's it's Teddy Bridgewater. 813 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: Who is Teddy Bridgewater, It's Sam Donald and now it's 814 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I mean, I mean, don't don't propose three together. 815 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: One had an average NFL offense. The other two are 816 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: literally the worst two quarterbacks in the league during those years. 817 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: It's a pretty big difference. I do put them together, 818 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: you could separate them, but they weren't. There's a reason 819 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: he was one and done and Caroline as well. Mr Rosenthal. Yeah, 820 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: because they make terrible personnel moves, and that and that 821 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: was that was one of them. Ultimately that they spent 822 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: more money to get rid of them and get get 823 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: way worse. That's not the point that this. This game 824 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: reminded me of another classic Panthers Cardinals game, Ryan Linley 825 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: versus the Panthers in the playoffs, where Ryan Linley dropped 826 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: back to past thirty two times and wound up with 827 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: fifty six yards as a team passing and in playing 828 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: the role of Ryan Linley today was Baker Mayfield. But 829 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: it was Joe Brady's fault. It was it was Joe 830 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: Brady's fault. Don't forget that. That's right. They fired Joe. 831 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: By the way, they showed Ben McAdoo, the rock star, 832 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: up in his booth at one point, and I was 833 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: like trying to figure what does he remind me of? Um? 834 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: And uh, he reminds me of my neighbor Nate. He 835 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: looks just like him. I just want everyone to know that, 836 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: you want to know what my neighbor Nate looks like. 837 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: It looks like the rock star Ben McAdoo. You've given 838 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: us what we need on that front. Like that, you've 839 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: quenched our thanks for that on that situation. These might 840 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: be my two favorite least favorite teams to watch right now, 841 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: by the way, and nothing I saw today did anything 842 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: to change that. Shook. I don't know, like I was 843 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: like we were co covering this. Um. Had I known 844 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: that you were covering, I might have like just simply 845 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: folded off because it left me. I've not gotten a 846 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: lot of sleep in this city. Um, Just to be real, 847 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: it's my own issue. But like, um, I it was 848 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: like I was heading into micro nap scenarios. Like during 849 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: the second half of this game, it was just like 850 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: these two were refusing to pull me out of slumber. 851 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: What what qualifies as a micro nap? Alright, like seconds, 852 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, thirty eight seconds where you wake up 853 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: and you don't even know where you are. I was 854 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: like in my in Central in I in New Jersey, 855 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: I don't know where I am. There's nothing worse than 856 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: a micro nap. Shooky, come back to us in a 857 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: little bit to handle the Chiefs Bucks recap, will you 858 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: you know it? Yes? Of course, Thanks you guys, Thank 859 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: you buddy, and thank you always for your help. Nick 860 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: Shook Legend. All right, let's take a break and then 861 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: we'll keep diving into the Sunday that was in our league. 862 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: All right, hit it, but Jets very likely a yard 863 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: and a half away from a win. Zach Wilson takes 864 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: the snap handoff, haul up the middle, extra effort at 865 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: the goal line. The ball plopped out. He might have 866 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: lost it at the goal one. The Jets think he 867 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: got across the goal line. Nine seconds to go. The 868 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: clock has stopped and an official through the bean bag 869 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: signaling a fumble. The runner broke the plane of the 870 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: goal line. Therefore, by rule that is a touch The 871 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: Jets have a touchdown. Brace Hall did indeed break the 872 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: plane before they plopped down. Oh yeah, on the week 873 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: that we had bongos for days. At the O two Forum, 874 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: Bob was Susan with the call for w E B 875 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: and Breese Hall broke the plane and the Jets are 876 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: down ten points and ten minutes to play. Zack Wilson 877 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: led his team in back to back touchdown drives to 878 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: steel and the Steelers at for Shore Stadium, which I 879 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: believe after Shore present. Wilson was six for six on 880 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: the ten play sixty yard drive before Breece Hall just 881 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: reached over the goal line. With that game winning tote 882 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: and boys, here's the background on this one, Marky, We Uh, 883 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: we were at the stadium. We left the stadium, we 884 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: went to um a private party that the NFL was throwing, 885 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: the NFL's UK office was throwing at a different hotel 886 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: than the one we're staying in, and we watched, i 887 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: would say, into late third quarter of all the early 888 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: kickoff games, which are six pm here one pm on 889 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: the East Coast in America. Uh. And then once the 890 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: Steelers went up twenty ten and the place was filling 891 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: up with all sorts of people. I mean all sorts. 892 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you want to get it, why 893 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: don't we get We'll get to that. After we talked 894 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: this game, we decided we had to get out of there. 895 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: So I'm in the car. Were in the cab, Me 896 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: and Mark. We get the help of a nice gentleman 897 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: that works at the hotel to help get a cab 898 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: because it was pretty busy in London at that time 899 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: a night surprisingly and I'm sitting in the car and 900 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm just like, we're trying to figure out how we're 901 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: gonna do tonight's show, and uh, I'm like, you know, 902 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: Mark I'm annoyed because the Jets are getting you know, 903 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: they laid down after a quick start in this game, 904 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 1: and we gotta figure out how to do the show 905 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: the right way. And then we get to the hotel 906 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: and and who's there but Jen Koski, one of our 907 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: colleagues from NFL Networks, a Steelers fan, and she's like, oh, 908 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: this game is close, and I'm like, what, get up 909 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: to the room, And all of a sudden, the Jets 910 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: are thirty yards and stealing a game. And they did it, 911 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,280 Speaker 1: and it and mark for the second time in three weeks, 912 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: the Jets won a game in which the other team 913 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: went full Jets and oh, by the way, ruined the 914 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: debut of Kenny Pickett. And I knew. I could see 915 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: the headlines, everybody bringing up that stupid Brown's game from 916 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: a few years back with Baker and Mayfield. Oh, what 917 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: a huge story in retrospect making his debut. It was 918 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: gonna happen again with Picktt being the big star and 919 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: the Jets being the clown that cried on the inside. 920 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: But then something else happened, and somehow the Jets are 921 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: two and two. It's stunning, both of these wins. They've 922 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: had well and you you were in a low place 923 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: at this party, which we'll get into in a minute. Um. 924 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when Kenny Pickett came in, it 925 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: had that classic thing when you root for a bad 926 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: team that's been a bad team for decades. What you 927 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: specialize in, what your secret power often is is you 928 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: are the debut performance defense against someone whose career will begin, 929 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: uh in illustrious fashion. And I remember I tell I 930 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: told you, I said you. This is where Zach Wilson 931 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: needs to say to Kenny Pickett, maybe not you know, Paly, 932 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: but just psychologically like you're not stealing this away from 933 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: me because this is sort of my debut in year 934 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: two here and you kind of looked at me and said, 935 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: you're wrong. You don't get the Jets. And I know 936 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: where you're coming from, but I think you forgot something 937 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: that on the Friday Fun Show someone suggested demanded, did 938 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson be the hero of the week? And that's 939 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: exactly what he did. I think it was what he 940 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: was the six for six on that final game winning drive. 941 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: You know what, at least you can you can say 942 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: one thing about the Jets. All you've asked for is 943 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: that they be entertaining in it of the time they've 944 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: been entertaining, and Kenny Pickett in another world, has this 945 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: gigantic debut or they perfect. No, but Kenny Pickett take 946 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: a seat. Next week. You can go do what you 947 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: want to do. This was Zack Wilson's afternoon cheering and 948 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: that was rousing and it was amazing. Um, but I 949 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: do feel like it kind of left out one key component, 950 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: which is that Mark locked up the Steelers on Sunday morning. Well, I, 951 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: actually you're right, and also so did someone else by 952 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, yeah, but I moved past this. Remember 953 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: we talked about this that you were going to stop 954 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: mixing and matching your different predictions. You're gonna be more baseline. 955 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: You can't Zach Wilson hero of the week and then 956 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: two days later you're locking up as opponent. You are 957 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: absolutely correct. Um. My only note from this game was 958 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: I picked Zach Wilson's hero and the Steelers has a lock. 959 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: That is a mess. Um. It is reflective of my 960 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: sleep patterns in my week in general. I did not 961 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: even recall that I did that. Someone pointed out to 962 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: me that I did that. It was Zach Wilson. So 963 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: that was discordant. That was a weird move and I 964 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: paid for it, and you should be thankful that I 965 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: paid for it. Uh No, I did. I was upset 966 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: when I learned that you did lock against the Jets 967 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: because it just feels personal. Um, and it did add 968 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of joy too. It was already a 969 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 1: joyful moment. I have to say that, Wait, you feel 970 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 1: that locking against the Jets as personal? Yes, he does. Yes, 971 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: we talked about it like four times today. Oh really, 972 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: but especially you know what it was. I think it 973 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: was especially our lack of last against the Jets over 974 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: the year, as our personal love for you. We would 975 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: have locked against the Jets like probably three times as 976 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: many times in the last ten years because but we 977 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: personally love you. That's exactly right. I know Greg is 978 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: coming in the screaming headline that I picked the Steelers heels. 979 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: So it was just funny after that big stirring thing. 980 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: Uh No, it was more like we're working closely as 981 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: like warriors on the front line here in London. And 982 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,439 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, but he wants my team 983 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: to lose. It hurt my feelings, but um, we move 984 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: forward from that and I will say this the Kenny 985 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Pickett debut, although it was very strange. He threw thirteen passes, 986 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: no pass ever hit the ground. Uh. He had ten 987 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: completions UH and three interceptions, including one that was a 988 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: bad one in between the two Jets scoring drives that 989 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: changed the game and won the game for New York. 990 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: And they all didn't They all hit uh Steelers receivers 991 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: in the hands. The first two ones hit his receivers 992 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: in the hands. I'm not well. I'd have to take 993 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: a look at it. The second one one at least 994 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: one of them was a really bad throw, and the 995 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: third one was a hail Mary. I didn't He did 996 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 1: not play poorly at all, um, So don't lead into 997 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: the three interceptions as a sign he's not ready to 998 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: start now. Tomlin after the game didn't say he was 999 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the Week five starter, but that would be silly. 1000 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinski came played the first half. I said on 1001 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: the podcast last Sunday night, I said, they have parked 1002 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: the themselves in a cul de sac as long as 1003 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: they're with Mitch Drabinsky, And it was time, and they 1004 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: almost got a spark and made it happen and give 1005 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: him all week of practice with the first team, uh 1006 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: and see what he can do. So, yes, Pikett did 1007 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: give them a spark. He also made some mistakes. Uh. 1008 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: The Steelers are a frustrating one and three and yeah, 1009 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: like the Jets are. I don't I still don't think 1010 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: they're a very good team. Um, but all I want 1011 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: is entertainment and they've given me serious entertainment value at 1012 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: the end of these games. And you, if you go 1013 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: on Jets Twitter, there's a bit of a stunned, stunning 1014 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: feeling to it all, like how are they stealing these games? 1015 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 1: Because this is what they do. They give away these games. 1016 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: So another nice a nice night for Jets fans and 1017 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: an unexpected one. And by the way, that party that 1018 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: we left right Mark, that was that was a party 1019 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: where right as we were, you know, getting ready to 1020 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: leave because it was starting to fill up. It was 1021 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: very sparse when we got there. In fact, we're the 1022 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: only people that got there initially. But by eight pm 1023 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: London time, literally the cast of Ted Lasso came in 1024 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: and then the entire Saints cheerleading squad and everybody was 1025 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: looking to get loose and have fun. Well, no, and 1026 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I would say today was also a day 1027 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: where you spent the first um five six of the 1028 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: afternoon and evening realizing how lucky we are to do 1029 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: what we do, to go to go to the London game, 1030 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: to meet so many listeners and fans. But then at 1031 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: that party, it was the kind of the moment I 1032 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: was like, if I weren't covering these games, I would 1033 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: be hanging out with um this we're just essentially we've 1034 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: been thrust into a gigantic visual feast and then we 1035 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: suddenly had to leave died to go watch Kyler Murray 1036 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: play Baker Mayfield was like, maybe some career decisions have 1037 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: been strange, um, but overall it was just like, we 1038 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 1: are such professionals, let me let me steer it this way. 1039 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: We stay. We probably would have been, because we're human, 1040 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: swayed and pulled into a myer um of all sorts 1041 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: of you know, Greg would be doing the show alone. 1042 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: So we we were such pros that we got immediately 1043 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: into cabs, came back and did what we needed to do. 1044 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: I I can only imagine what we missed. There was 1045 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: a moment where before we uh headed up the steps 1046 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: we were we thought to ourselves. Well, you know, it's 1047 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: the time difference is vast. Perhaps we can go to 1048 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: this party and then record early in the morning before 1049 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: our flight, which made zero sense. But that's how good 1050 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: this party looked like it was gonna be. And um, 1051 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: you know that's that's the sacrifices we make for really 1052 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: you the listener. So right, we lost all logic. We 1053 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: we for a minute, we lost all logic, and uh, 1054 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: I could have perhaps changed our entire lives, but now 1055 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: our lives do the same. So Zach Wilson up and 1056 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: down in the game, for sure, but he also had 1057 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: a Philly Philly touchdown catching this game in addition to 1058 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: uh those big throws and a touchdown in those last 1059 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: two drives. Canny Pickett, We better see Kenny Pickett the 1060 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: next time the Steelers are on the field or Mike 1061 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: Tomlin is overthinking things. Let's go to a shootout at 1062 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 1: Ford Field. Another one. Two tight ends on the left side, 1063 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: single tight end, right side. Penny the single setback and 1064 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 1: he gets it straight ahead. He got a first down. 1065 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: He got a first down over his left garden center 1066 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: Rashant Penny inside the thirty five a count. This one 1067 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: has a win the Lions are used their last time 1068 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: out and it doesn't matter. Fifty three on the clock 1069 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: and the Hawks are gonna fly back to Seattle with 1070 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: an even to two records. Had a great offensive performance 1071 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: here today. A great offensive performance by the Seattle Seahawks, 1072 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: who took advantage of a week Detroit defense that can't 1073 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: get a stop it seems like this season, and really 1074 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: bawled out Gina Smith, Yes, Gina Smith, good job, Greggy 1075 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: and Rashant Penny, big time games. Penny with that third 1076 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: down run that ice the game and allowed the Seahawks 1077 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: to hold off the Lions to forty five. Gino called 1078 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: it an old fashioned shootout after the game, um market 1079 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: is so listen. The Lines are the team of a 1080 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: t L. They have not one since they became team 1081 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: of a t L, but they still have the traits 1082 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: that are important. It's not necessarily winning, it's being an interesting, 1083 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: fun team football team. They are because this was a 1084 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: game where they didn't have DeAndre Swift, they didn't have 1085 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: a mon Ross st Brown, and you thought their offense 1086 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: would take a step back, but they nearly put up 1087 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: a fifty burger and still lose because their defense is pitiful. 1088 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: But give credit to Seattle. Obviously their offense really showed 1089 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: up in this game. I gave immense credit to Seattle. 1090 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're looking at two really faulty, 1091 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: fractured defenses and that's how you end up with this result. 1092 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 1: In Detroit's done this before where they get buried in 1093 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: a hole and they come roaring back because they've got 1094 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: the parts to do it even with a few guys out. 1095 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: But this game, to me, uh, you know, it went 1096 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: through many different um moods. There's no doubt about it. 1097 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: This was a game with a fake punt, It had 1098 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 1: a fifty six yard field goal, It had this crazy 1099 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: on size kick at the end. Um Greg you pointed out, 1100 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: i think on Twitter or to us that Detroit, after 1101 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: the onside's kick, with just a couple of minutes left, 1102 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: still had three time outs left, and they could have 1103 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 1: taken this thing somewhere else, and they did. And I mean, 1104 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: if you look at Seattle's drive chart, uh, it's touchdown, touchdown, 1105 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown, missfield goal, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, end 1106 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: of game. And for the slamming and the annoyance that 1107 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: I have expressed, we've expressed about Geno Smith. I'll give 1108 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: him this. I mean he made throws in this game. 1109 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean DK Metcalf. He does have some chemistry with 1110 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: d K. Like DK's results today essentially eclipsed his entire 1111 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: season performance up until this morning. I mean he it 1112 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: just worked in a Detroit's defense. Is an ample, fertile 1113 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: ground to go do this against. But that's fine. That 1114 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean every team you can take advantage of it. 1115 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: We talked about Geno Smith is having the completion percentage thing. 1116 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: He does have this, but he made big plays in 1117 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: this game as well. Rashad Penny was on fire, and 1118 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. There was this moment where the camera, the 1119 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: broadcast camera was stationed behind Pete Carroll at the end 1120 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: of this thing when there was just a couple of 1121 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: minutes left, and he just sort of pivoted, turned around 1122 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: and looked at the camera and did his little Pete 1123 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: Carroll look where he knew exactly what he was doing. 1124 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: It's like the Seahawks, this is what he advertised to 1125 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: us in the off season. It's not gonna happen again 1126 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: this way. This was an anomaly, but it was a 1127 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: beautiful day for Seahawks fans, and I thought, Gino Smith, Um, 1128 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: he shut me up. He's shut me up a number 1129 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: of times. And I don't know how good of a 1130 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: quarterback he is, but he's simply fit today. He made 1131 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: the throws. He does not make big mistakes. That's the 1132 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: thing he doesn't. And I mean golf can play well too, 1133 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: but this was a Geno Smith day. And Greg, you 1134 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: take the floor from here. I mean, it's like until 1135 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: the end, though I appreciated that. At the end you're like, well, 1136 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: I have it's a lot of like, well, I have 1137 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: to give Gino credit, give it, give credit to you. Well, 1138 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: of course you gotta give him credit. They scored forty 1139 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: eight freaking points, Like, gave up forty five points and 1140 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: they won the game. Joe Joe Montana has never done that. 1141 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has never done that. Aaron Rodgers never done that. 1142 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: He has Okay, I'm just saying things that are true. Here, 1143 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: here's some other things that are true. Just for now. 1144 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: It's not gonna stay there. But it's like you don't 1145 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: have choice but to give him credit. They are the 1146 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: number one offense in the NFL, according to E p A, 1147 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: no quarterback in the history the if the NFL has 1148 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: a higher completion percentage through four games of a season. Like, 1149 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Geno Smith is one of the all 1150 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: time greats. I'm saying right now he is having a 1151 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: ridiculous season that is so far above anything that I 1152 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: could have honked about this summer. You guys would have 1153 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: called me an insane person. He is a different player. 1154 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: He's I think, so good before the snap. That's where 1155 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: that Eli Manning comparison came in. He had an audible 1156 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: today on a third sixteen where he saw it coming 1157 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: and he delivered a touchdown. And Uh. The one thing 1158 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: that's really different I think about him this year is 1159 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: he is better navigating around pressure when it does come. 1160 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Their offensive lines playing well. Um, but he's been a 1161 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: little more mobile and a little bit able to buy 1162 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: time and make plays in a calm way that like 1163 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,479 Speaker 1: he hasn't done before. But he also hasn't had five 1164 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: straight starts before, four streets starts before like this in 1165 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: a long time, ever since making the leap. He's made 1166 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: that leap. I feel like I'm just thinking about, um, well, 1167 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: if West felt the way I felt right now, what 1168 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: would we say? What's would probably say? You know, let's 1169 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: talk in January. But for the time being he's doing great. 1170 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't five for the time being me 1171 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: on this like this is a victory for all time, 1172 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: no matter what happens from here at this I just 1173 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: let's see where things are. This is a small sample 1174 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: so far, but great job by Gino. They really won't finish. 1175 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: Pointed out that the Lions have a horrific defense right now. 1176 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: And let's see what Dan Campbell had to say. Because 1177 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, oh, by the way, he needs to be 1178 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: showing results in a year two here and this is 1179 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: not a good look. And Aaron Glenn, who I quite 1180 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: admired as a player, and it really admired him on 1181 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: hard knocks as a guy that looked like a leader 1182 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: of men. They're gonna start being questions asked about the 1183 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: leadership and coaching if this doesn't get better. Here's what 1184 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Campbell had to say. Yeah, I mean, look, I I 1185 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: don't know about that, because there again I go back 1186 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: to man, I I got a lot of faith in 1187 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. I got a ton of faith and those assistants, 1188 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's just you know, I think we 1189 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: sit down and uh and I think we we look 1190 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: at everything together. And uh, because really, you know, I 1191 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: think more than anything, maybe it's time for deep dive, 1192 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, a real deep dive into it players everything 1193 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: that we're doing. But I also trust what he's doing, 1194 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and uh, there's a reason why I hired him, and uh, 1195 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: and so I want to let him do his job. 1196 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 1: But certainly I'm gonna, I mean, I gotta, i gotta 1197 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: look a lot deeper than I have. They are the 1198 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: first eam in NFL history to score and allow a 1199 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: combined through the first four games of the season. So 1200 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: the offense has been better than expected and the defense 1201 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 1: has been worse than expected, and in the end, that 1202 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: adds up to one in three. One random aside from 1203 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: this game, DK Metcalf had to take a cart to 1204 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the locker room. Um because he had to poop. Uh. 1205 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: And then he took a cart back. People were worried, 1206 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, he was hurt, but he just needed to 1207 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. Now, this has happened a few 1208 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: different times lately, and this is the same league where 1209 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: I I often get angry that we can't figure out 1210 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: how to have the technology to have a laser on 1211 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: the goal line. Can we get some sort of thing 1212 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: where there's like a bathroom on the on the on 1213 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: the side of the field so they don't have to 1214 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: run back there. We get it saying some sort of 1215 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: porta potty type thing. They can figure this out so 1216 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 1: men don't have to be taking a pop car. You 1217 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 1: know how embarrassing would be to go into a porta 1218 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: potty and there's seventy people looking at you, like I'd 1219 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: be so self conscious're not looking at you. You're inside 1220 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: of but'm like waiting for you to come out, and 1221 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get that you're doing laughing and 1222 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: jokes and whistles. I thought I saw, you know, because 1223 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: this was written about a lot in a lot of 1224 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 1: places obviously, and including when it just like like he 1225 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: was being carted off the field and people didn't know 1226 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: what it was. And r G three was one that 1227 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I saw. DK Metcalf just got carded off the field. Man, 1228 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: this game is brutal. Prayers sent up. Wait, you gotta 1229 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: look at DK Metcalf's tweet that that is so RG 1230 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: three number one, but like he just he retweeted, het 1231 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: tweeted the video of him being carded off and just 1232 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: said that clinch walk would wouldn't have made it. We don't. Well, 1233 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: every human gets what that means. You know, it's like 1234 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: you know what else it is greggy. I know, like 1235 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Mark played the game like we didn't, of course, taking 1236 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: off an NFL uniform. I think it. It might be 1237 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: you might need a little bit more room than the 1238 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 1: porta potty offers. They're also very I mean, I don't know, 1239 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 1: I don't even want a porta potty, but I want 1240 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: a better version of it. R G three did uh 1241 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 1: did make up for it later? Now he's doing bits 1242 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: when he's talking about the Chiefs game, which you know 1243 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Shock is going to get too later, saying the Chiefs 1244 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 1: are running through the bucks faster than that poop ran 1245 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: through DK Dan. I will tell you just someone who 1246 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, I put on a football uniform hundreds of 1247 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: times as a youth, hundreds sure. I mean we practiced 1248 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: five days a week, two hours of contact every night. 1249 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Then you played on Saturday. This was not two thousand 1250 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: twenty two. This was a different age, a different era, 1251 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: and like I would often have to come home. None 1252 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: of that sounds true, but go ahead, it is completely 1253 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: It's totally true. But like you you if you needed 1254 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: to peel off your football pants. With the pads and everything, 1255 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: you could you could learn to do it quite easily. 1256 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: You could, you could function. I don't think that a 1257 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: porta potty would be impossible for a play. I think 1258 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: it's more than what you're saying, the spotlight on you, 1259 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: What is he doing in there? One? Or like the 1260 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: the first thing or the second thing, that's what we're asking. 1261 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: It'd be like a high class porter potty, you know 1262 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: the types of porter potties they have, like in the 1263 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: v I P. Sections of like a nice concert or whatever. 1264 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Like this wouldn't just be or everyday, you know, crappy 1265 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: porter potty. What if all right, all right, I'll roll 1266 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: with this idea. It's very late and I don't want 1267 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: to talk about it anymore. But what if since we're here, 1268 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: instead of a porter potty, there's kind of like a 1269 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: on the sideline back behind the benches, there's a big 1270 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: square and you can even like put a cool logo 1271 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: like a toilet logo, and you stand on the square 1272 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: and then it lowers down beneath the field that come up, 1273 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: and then stairs there's a there's a full bathroom and 1274 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: whatever you need to do down there, you do. Just 1275 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: another thought. All right, people cheer like crazy when you 1276 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 1: come back up like everyone. That's the whole thing. All right. 1277 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's move to the desert where the Raiders were a 1278 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: wounded animal, maybe dead. They certainly would be dead if 1279 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: they gonna beat the Broncos. Let's see what happened. Cars 1280 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: under center answered off the Jacobs first group, the middle 1281 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: touch back at the five, carry's the defender, touchdown ritters. 1282 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Jacobs tosses it into the stands and he might have 1283 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: just sealed Las Vegas his first win of the year. 1284 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: There is the call from Jason Harrowitz k r l V. 1285 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs was a man zest in the desert. He 1286 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: was a man you know when we talk about a 1287 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: team's back against the wall and you say, well that 1288 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like you're you know, can't play harder. Josh. 1289 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs played harder today because he knew his team 1290 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: could not go oh and four, and as a result, 1291 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: he finished I feel like this is a take that 1292 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: Plain Bond would take issue. As a result, he finished 1293 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: with a career high but forty four on the ground, 1294 01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: two touchdowns and the Raiders, yes, get that first win. 1295 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Thirty three over the Denver Broncos. We're talking about the Brownies, like, 1296 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: did they deserve to be two for two and two? 1297 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. The Broncos did not deserve to be 1298 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: three and one, two and two at best, and that's 1299 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: what they are. The Raiders, greggy get their first win. Uh, 1300 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: and they did it on the back of Josh Jacobs. 1301 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs has looked so good the last two weeks. 1302 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Let see, it's why. It's why we watched these game 1303 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 1: pass games because his numbers didn't totally pop against the Titans, 1304 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 1: but that first that ability to jump, cut and just 1305 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: make people miss was absolutely there. A week ago, I 1306 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this is like rookie Josh Jacobs, the 1307 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: one that West was so excited about. You just mentioned, 1308 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 1: like West love Josh Jacobs that rookie year. It's hard 1309 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: not to. And this team is different when they can 1310 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: run the ball. I thought it was really telling that 1311 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Davante Adams told um, Greg Gumble and Trent Green the 1312 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: announcers like that learning in this Josh McDaniel offense was 1313 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: like mandarin and uh it got me just like how 1314 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: complex it is? Right? And uh, I'm thinking, okay, this 1315 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: is literally one of the smartest wide receivers in the 1316 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 1: history of the NFL who's been in the league ten years. Uh, 1317 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: it's challenging for him to get going with this offense. 1318 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: McDaniels hasn't had this sort of challenge in a long 1319 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: long time. You know, he's had this Patriots system that's 1320 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: been the same for twenty years, and maybe it's taken 1321 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: some time for everyone to get up to speed. Derek 1322 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Carr wasn't totally clean in this game, but I think, uh, 1323 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: the tight end screens and the running back screens and 1324 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line, which is in theory Hodgebudge is starting 1325 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to move kind of like those Patriots teams that I'm 1326 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: used to when they run those power formations, and everything 1327 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: looked like it made sense today, and they really controlled 1328 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the game for the most part on the ground, but 1329 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: they protected car well when they needed to, and I 1330 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: thought it was just like, Okay, maybe maybe here's a 1331 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: little Josh McDaniels. Here we go. And on the Broncos 1332 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: side of things, if if that is the Raiders is Mandarin, 1333 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it felt like the Broncos offense is ancient 1334 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Sanskrit right now. At least it did in the third 1335 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: quarter when the Broncos let this game slip away, because 1336 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: they actually started with some promise, and there were moments 1337 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: in this game, uh Mark, where it seemed like the 1338 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Broncos and Russell Wilson in particular, were continuing to get 1339 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable and he was moving on 1340 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: his legs a little bit more again, which is I 1341 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: think unlocks things with his offense, but completely disappearing until 1342 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: the game had already kind of slipped away. It's just 1343 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: another warning sign that things are just not right in 1344 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: Denver right now. And since they've were gifted to wins, 1345 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 1: they may be barely earned, they're gonna be okay, and 1346 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 1: the West maybe isn't as good as we thought, but 1347 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: still plenty of things to be concerned about there. I mean, 1348 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: I do see, like Russell Wilson, he's eleven of twelve 1349 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: in the first half for hundred and fifty two touchdowns. 1350 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a killer Melvin Melvin Gordon fumble 1351 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: in this But I you know, we talked about like 1352 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the most desperate like depressing tam out there a couple 1353 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and it's like, is it Denver? I mean, 1354 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: this is so off brand from what was sort of 1355 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,719 Speaker 1: advertised all all off season. But I mean, I would 1356 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: just ask you, Greg, of these two teams, who's who's 1357 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: the better team. I don't really care about the result 1358 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: today so much, but it's like you're talking about a 1359 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: Raiders team that under Josh McDaniels. Maybe I'm not seeing 1360 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: a Patriots arc, but like that offense is gonna you 1361 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: can understand why it's taking time for them to kind 1362 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 1: of heat up and cook up and then they there's 1363 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 1: a brighter future ahead with Denver. I just don't sense 1364 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: that the same way. I'm wondering if their quarterback is 1365 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: simply in regression. I think that they probably took the 1366 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: passing game took a step forward for Denver today. Um, 1367 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: they only had twelve first downs in the game. They 1368 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: had some big plays, but they moved it. I think 1369 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was better, but the running game was was 1370 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: a disaster. Um. You know, you mentioned like different languages, 1371 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: they'd be sans there. To me, they're more like a 1372 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,600 Speaker 1: three year old where it's like, uh, they say a 1373 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: bunch of things and it's kind of cute. Actually sometimes 1374 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 1: they just eight things and they're all messed up. But 1375 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: sometimes it like actually smashes together well and looks good, 1376 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: but otherwise, like most of the time, it just doesn't 1377 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: make any sense. Here's the Broncos backfield update coming out 1378 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: of this game. Javonte Williams carded with a knee injury 1379 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: that didn't look great. Uh, Melvin Well, actually it was 1380 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of hard to see what happened what didn't look great. 1381 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 1: Has reported that, Uh, it's expected to be serious and 1382 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: there's not much optimism, and it sounds it sounds to 1383 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: me like with Randy Granding injury with Javonte Williams, and 1384 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Randy might be serious. Yeah, Grandy Gregory looked like an 1385 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: a c all the way he reacted, But we'll see. 1386 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams um couldn't put any weight on the leg, 1387 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: so if he's out for the year. Melvin Gordon was 1388 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: benched in this game because he's now fumbled four times, 1389 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: lost another fumble that was recovered and scored for a 1390 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 1: touchdown in this game in a narrow loss, so you 1391 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: know he'd be in the doghouse if they could put 1392 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: him in the doghouse. And then Mike Boone gets some 1393 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: run in this game, and what does he do all 1394 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 1: he does is drop a wide open, perfectly thrown Wilson 1395 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 1: pass that would have put them into enemy territory and 1396 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: given them at least a puncher's chance in the last 1397 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: couple of minutes to dry. But it was fourth down 1398 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: and the game was over. So a lot of issues. 1399 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: I think Wilson actually has looked when a factor in 1400 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 1: the end of the last game. And yes, his big 1401 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: playability in this game. He had a rushing touchdown, he 1402 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 1: made some place with his legs, He had a couple 1403 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 1: of really nice throws. The Judy throw for the touchdown 1404 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 1: was good. I thought there was progress Courtland Sutton had 1405 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown in this game. Progress, But the backfield, the 1406 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: running game is brutal right now. And you lose a 1407 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: pass rusher now with Gregory most likely, and Javonte Williams 1408 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: was a potentially special piece of that offense and it 1409 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 1: looks like you lose him. There's just a lot of 1410 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: reason to be pessimistic around Denver right now. Yeah, they 1411 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 1: they probably had the worst Sunday of just about anyone, uh, 1412 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: other than maybe the Colts, which which you get him. 1413 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,639 Speaker 1: It was nice to see the Pat sur Tan matchup, 1414 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: by the way, like this was a real Davante Adams 1415 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 1: is a god type of game because you can put 1416 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: one of the best cornerbacks in the league on him 1417 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 1: and he's still going to go nine for one oh one. 1418 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: And you know who did have a great Sunday. The 1419 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 1: zeus are in London with my colleagues and my friends 1420 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: and covering football, and the Jets come back and I 1421 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 1: pivoted out of I pivoted out of the Lions lock 1422 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 1: and locked up down rights. You like them apples, Thanks guys. 1423 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's move to Indianapolis. Hannah Hill gives it 1424 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: to Henry around right and to the fift, to the 1425 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: tad to the five to the end. So the King 1426 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry touch that Titans. They were packed inside so 1427 01:12:53,840 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: hard like side Dick Sardines, and he bounced it outside goodbye. 1428 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: That was just engraver though to Sardine, actually he was 1429 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis with Mike Keith w g f X. You 1430 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: know that doesn't remind me, and it makes sense um 1431 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. But when they did the national anthems 1432 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: at the game this morning this afternoon, they come out 1433 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: and they do a version of the Star Spangled Banner 1434 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: with the big American flag out, then outcomes the Union 1435 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 1: Jack flag and it's God Save the King. Lyric change. 1436 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: And I don't like when I do a when I 1437 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 1: go to a concert and I have like a favorite 1438 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 1: song and then the artist comes out and he's mixing 1439 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: the lyrics up and it's like, no, no, sing it 1440 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: the way it is on the CD, like on the record. 1441 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: I like that. Um, but I guess you have to. 1442 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 1: And is now no longer God Save the Queen, which 1443 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 1: I thought had a lot of pathos. I just like that, 1444 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: but things change and now it's God Save the King. 1445 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: That's just a note. I'm gonna die. It's almost two am, 1446 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: so it's three am. Um. Derrick Henry rushed for a 1447 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,799 Speaker 1: season high d fourteen yards, scored a touchdown. Titan Steven 1448 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: stepped up made a couple three stops late to preserve 1449 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 1: seventeen victory over the Colts. And Jonathan Taylor, who was 1450 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 1: outplayed by Derrick Henry in this game and exited with 1451 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 1: a potential high ankle sprain ahead of Thursday night football. 1452 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Bad news whole around for the Colts. Now I bring 1453 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: in Grave Digger himself, who man, he's real deal, like 1454 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 1: Grave Digger lives and dies. He lives and breathes it. 1455 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: He was pumped up and feeling very good about himself. 1456 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: He had his lady on his arm and watching his 1457 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: favorite football team destroy Arrival. And then it got tight, 1458 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 1: but at the end the Titans got the job done. 1459 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: Grave Digger. Yeah, it was another game where the Titans 1460 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: do this thing where they come out really strong and 1461 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 1: they get up to a big league They've done it 1462 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: every game except the Monday night game against Buffalo, and 1463 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: they've actually scored on their opening drive in all four 1464 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 1: games this season. And you're feeling great about the Titans, 1465 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, this team's cruising and they get 1466 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 1: up to a big lead, and then the second half 1467 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 1: comes out, you're like, Okay, do something Titans here, and 1468 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: the Colts made it interesting year. I have some fun 1469 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,640 Speaker 1: stats for Titans fans. Titans had sixteen first downs in 1470 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: the first half. They had three first downs in the 1471 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: second half. They had twenty eight total net yards in 1472 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: the second half, including two yards in the third quarter. 1473 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: So as much as it feels great to get a 1474 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: win over a division rival, get back to two and two, 1475 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 1: tied for first place in the a f C, South. 1476 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: There's some very real offensive concerns here with the second 1477 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 1: half offensive the Titans, because its the same it's been 1478 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: the same thing all four games this season. Yeah, but 1479 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 1: they're just trying to manage this part of the schedule. 1480 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I hear you, because it is bizarre. They're like, the 1481 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,520 Speaker 1: exact the exact same thing happened last week. Uh, they survived. 1482 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: This happened. You got out gained by a hundred against 1483 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 1: a pretty bad Colts team. But I think there's some 1484 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: there's some good things to feel. Uh. And that's that 1485 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's back back. I mean I I thought not 1486 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: enough was made about him a week ago. Man, he 1487 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: had that burst last week. He has that burst this week. 1488 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: I know that numbers aren't totally there, but that's partly 1489 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 1: offensive line and the rest of the offenses and there 1490 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 1: he just he looks like Derrick Henry. He has that juice. 1491 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, I had convinced myself because of 1492 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: that foot injury at the end of last year, maybe 1493 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 1: we weren't going to ever see that juice. But he's 1494 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 1: got that juice. Yeah, Henry does look good. The other 1495 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 1: the other thing, this is partly a usage thing and 1496 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: and not having the time of possession and not getting 1497 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 1: first downs in the fourth quarters. But here's Henry's rushing 1498 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 1: stats in all fourth quarters this season, combined thirteen carries 1499 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 1: for seventeen yards. Although the Titans were able today to 1500 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 1: actually ice the game on that final possession after they 1501 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 1: forced another Matt Ryan turnover, the Colts were a mess. 1502 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Ryan turned the ball over too many times. 1503 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: The offensive line cannot protect him. They just struggled to 1504 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: move the ball, and they put together a couple of 1505 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: drives to get back in this game, but when it 1506 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 1: really counted, they couldn't pick up first downs and they 1507 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 1: couldn't protect Matt Ryan. Past protection looks really bad for you, 1508 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: and I think Matt Ryan, I wouldn't be surprised, is 1509 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: that if this is the last season we see if 1510 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but it's it. 1511 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not seeing a whole lot there. It's it's 1512 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: also what's around him. But if you're a Cults fan, 1513 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: I wonder what the future is with with I mean 1514 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, who's I think widely and in understandably praised 1515 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: for what he brings as a head coach like, this 1516 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: team is a mess. This team is a mess, and 1517 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I think there was pressured on 1518 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the GM and coach going into this year and the 1519 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: way this thing is playing out at this moment. I mean, 1520 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,559 Speaker 1: you're the only team I think in the league that's 1521 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 1: been shut out by someone, and like every other week, 1522 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 1: you're no showing on offense. Your quarterback is old, you've 1523 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 1: gotten him past his prime. He's not protect he's turning 1524 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the ball over left and right, and they and we 1525 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 1: saw how the owner responded to poor quarterback play less 1526 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 1: than a year ago, freaking out publicly about it. I 1527 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: don't like that, like the essential overall arc of where 1528 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 1: this team is going or what it might mean for 1529 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 1: everyone attached to it. We have a new contender in 1530 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,799 Speaker 1: the first coach to be let go on Black Monday 1531 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 1: Sweepstakes or before, and Matt Rule is still the leader, 1532 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 1: but Frank Reich is making a hard charge, and he 1533 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: also has an owner that's probably, like you're saying, very peeve. 1534 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: They have lost six of seven dating back to last 1535 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: year when everything fell apart in these last two weeks, 1536 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: and here's a quote from Reich that I thought was 1537 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 1: just on paper anyway, just told the story of a 1538 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 1: coach that knows there's leaks all over the ship. I 1539 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 1: feel like we're seeing some things that we want to see. 1540 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: We just need to play better. We need to execute better. 1541 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: We need to not stop turning the ball over, and 1542 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 1: we need to get more turnovers, and um, you know, 1543 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 1: we need to run the football a little bit better, 1544 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,759 Speaker 1: and uh, you know so, and start faster. We're fine, 1545 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: We just need to play better, execute better, stop turning 1546 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 1: the ball over, start getting turnovers. We need to run 1547 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 1: the football. Oh and we elseo have to start faster. 1548 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: But other than that, things are going great. Well. You 1549 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 1: know what's extra troubling, Dan like if you have a 1550 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: bunch of leaks all over your ship, is if it 1551 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 1: just starts raining all over that open roof in Indianapolis. 1552 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,640 Speaker 1: That's right, the rain maker delivers to and oh on 1553 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,679 Speaker 1: the season. I spent the whole day thinking I locked 1554 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 1: this game up, but no, it was the Rainmaker. Either 1555 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 1: way it works. I'm gonna ice you out because you 1556 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 1: iced out my lock of the Raiders. I mean, I'm undefeated, 1557 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: You've been two yards. My biggest concern from the Titan's 1558 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: perspective heading to this game was being able to stop 1559 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the run, and it was really not the running game. 1560 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 1: It was all these card I mean, I expected Dan 1561 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 1: to ice me out, but Graver I seen me out. Um, look, 1562 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: I I had faith in your team. And then like 1563 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: diving in with more Titans stats. Go to the Titans 1564 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Film Room podcast for more deep dives on this wonderful 1565 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: affair for the Titans. Is that fair? Is that a 1566 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 1: good pluck? Yeah? Find me at Titans Films on Twitter. 1567 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 1: There you go. Uh good job. Let's take a break 1568 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: and let's let's almost go quasi speed round to wrap 1569 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,679 Speaker 1: up the show, people, cut us some slack. It's three 1570 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 1: am and we have a flight to catch in the morning. 1571 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back. Thirty one yard field 1572 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 1: goal chips. Here we go. Mason Crosby for the wind 1573 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,760 Speaker 1: snap placement, scringing the right and leg trick today up 1574 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: like god gonon Crosby has done it. He has the 1575 01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: greenback Packers break it over time over the New England 1576 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Patriots Packers radio network with the call I don't know, 1577 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 1: like Mason Crosby's done it again. They had a stat 1578 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: that was flashed up right before he came out on 1579 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 1: the field there that he was twenty two of thirty 1580 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 1: four in such situations, close and late situations, which is 1581 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,920 Speaker 1: like kind of terrible, but he's been there forever and 1582 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: they've always had a ton of patients for him, and 1583 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,879 Speaker 1: in this case, he made the chip shot that allowed 1584 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the Packers to survive a really game Patriots team that 1585 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: down to their third string quarterback when punch for punch 1586 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, but came out on the wrong end 1587 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 1: win in overtime for the Packers, who are now three 1588 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and one after their season opening loss. And Greggy, I 1589 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 1: gotta say, like, the Patriots don't do anything for me 1590 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: anymore as a villain for obvious reasons. They're not special anymore. 1591 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,160 Speaker 1: But this is the this time where I I felt 1592 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 1: I was kind of into their underdog vibe with Bailey 1593 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Zappy at the controls. And the exact moment I felt 1594 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 1: that way was after Brian Hoyer went out with a concussion. 1595 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys picked up on this 1596 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 1: at all, and I just said, I want us to 1597 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 1: go a little faster. But like everyone that had any 1598 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: type of head injury today was instantly out of the 1599 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: game and never seen I would love to see the 1600 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: date of how many guys left the game, left games 1601 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 1: with the concussion and the after the too incident on 1602 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night and the subsequent changes to concussion protocol. And oh, 1603 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 1: by the way, the unaffiliated team doctor got fired by 1604 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 1: the players union. That was connected to the initial two 1605 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: examination from week three. So now all these unaffiliated doctors 1606 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 1: who are like we like our gig here, like you're 1607 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: out of the game. You're out of the game. You're 1608 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: out of the game. That's just the way it is 1609 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: right now and maybe for the rest of the season. 1610 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 1: But Bailey Zappy and the Patriots really was They were 1611 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: fun to watch, Greg because they did not give up 1612 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 1: when that game could have gone side ways very early, 1613 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,639 Speaker 1: Like I totally am with you. I love uh. Their 1614 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,679 Speaker 1: cornerback the Patriots, Jack Jones, who had to pick six 1615 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. That was a great moment. The fact 1616 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,639 Speaker 1: that they got that offensive touchdown was Zappy. Uh was great. 1617 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: But I'm seeing a lot of like backslapping, like this 1618 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 1: is something that the Patriots can build on and this 1619 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 1: was a great you know thing, And it's like you 1620 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: get all that if you like win the game. You 1621 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 1: don't get all that if you get out gained by 1622 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 1: like a hundred and seventy yards and you have the 1623 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: ball at the fifty yard line in overtime with the 1624 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 1: first down off the punt return, and you lose the game. 1625 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they had so many chances to win the 1626 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 1: game at the end, and they made such curious play calls. 1627 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,599 Speaker 1: The way that they were running in the second half, 1628 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,120 Speaker 1: I just assumed when they got the ball a couple 1629 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: of times late in the fourth quarter, they're just gonna run, run, run, run. Uh. 1630 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 1: But they ended up throwing twice in a row, and 1631 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 1: that be looked totally lost, Like the the numbers were 1632 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: quite misleading. He looked like a rookie third string quarterback 1633 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: who was taken late, like it's nothing against him, but 1634 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything, and it would seemed bizarre that 1635 01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 1: they went throws, though, Greg, he did make a couple 1636 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,400 Speaker 1: of throws. That's and even the guy who even then 1637 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: he had like a I would saying, like he had 1638 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 1: all day to throw and they were wide open and 1639 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 1: he was almost like late getting to them. I wouldn't 1640 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: say that they were like impressive place, but Greg, I 1641 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 1: mean just saying, you've got to be able to run 1642 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 1: the ball to get a field goal there. Get a 1643 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 1: run the ball to get a field goal there, not 1644 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 1: get stuffed twice and punt at the fort. That's a 1645 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 1: gutless defense. Gave up four hundred and forty yards or something. 1646 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 1: And if you look, if you just factor in what 1647 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: we heard about that training camp in New England's offense 1648 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 1: in general, and that you're the third quarterback that's getting 1649 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 1: literally no snaps at all, like to come in in 1650 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: this game and to to essentially take do enough at 1651 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: least to get the team where they were against Aaron Rodgers. 1652 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like, Dan, you pointed out that 1653 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,520 Speaker 1: this might have been one of your favorite Bill Belichick 1654 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,840 Speaker 1: coaching moments. It just came close to being that. I mean, like, yeah, 1655 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Bill Belichick is kind of floating in 1656 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 1: like in a weird space right now. Like it's weird 1657 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 1: to see Bill Belichick coaching a team that feels punchless 1658 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 1: and doesn't really have a larger role in the NFL's 1659 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: He also created his own purgatory by not treating Tom 1660 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 1: Brady with enough respect in my opinion, But I was 1661 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 1: talking about but that's a whole other conversation. I always 1662 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 1: talking about the moment when Zappi is in and Hoyers 1663 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 1: out and Mac Jones is out and Jacoby Meyer, who's 1664 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 1: the other emergency quarterback, is inactive, and you see Belichick 1665 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 1: go over and he's talking to this kid who's never 1666 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: even taken a snap under center. He worked out a 1667 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 1: shotgun in college. Uh, And like, I can't even imagine 1668 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 1: what was going through that young man's head. And lambeau 1669 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 1: Field with Aaron Rodgers something of his out the field. 1670 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,320 Speaker 1: So the fact that even made a couple of throws, 1671 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of just fun to watch. 1672 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,719 Speaker 1: And for the Packers, Uh, they very nearly had a 1673 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,599 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs touchdown that would have won the game at 1674 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,639 Speaker 1: the end of regulation. Very close call that went against 1675 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: Green Bay not holding down and surviving contact with the ground. 1676 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 1: But I'll give him credit that that was a game 1677 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,759 Speaker 1: that could have turned into a disaster, and they did 1678 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 1: eventually wake up and answer the call on offense and 1679 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 1: and get it done. And you even saw Matt Lafleur's face. 1680 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else noticed this. They showed 1681 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 1: the replay after the field goal went through the uprights. 1682 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 1: He took off the headset and let out a big 1683 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: exhale because he was like, I was not expecting that 1684 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,639 Speaker 1: game would be that difficult. I got the w though, Yeah, 1685 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 1: you're you're right about stepping up, like Aaron Rodgers got 1686 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,640 Speaker 1: them back in this game with like perfect throws that 1687 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 1: were well defended. The deep throw to Alan Lazard on 1688 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 1: third and ten. He had another one to Randall Cobb 1689 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 1: that like, I don't think Belichick would look at those 1690 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 1: plays and think they could have done much differently. It 1691 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers being Aaron Rodgers. And then you're right. 1692 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: The Packers defense surprised me. I thought the way they've 1693 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 1: played run defense this year, and the way that the 1694 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Patriots have run the ball and ran thirty three for 1695 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 1: one sixty seven today, they ran effectively even today. I 1696 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,240 Speaker 1: figured the Patriots would be able to run the ball 1697 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: down the field and kick that game winning field goal 1698 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 1: whether it was regulation or overtime, and the Packers stuffed 1699 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,280 Speaker 1: them both times. Let's head to the swamps of Jersey. 1700 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,640 Speaker 1: Jones fakes the hand off. He's gonna roll who was 1701 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 1: left looking, and he's gonna just run. Jones of the fifteen, 1702 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: Jones of the tent Joels of the five Jones in 1703 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 1: touchdown Giants twenty one yards Daniel Jones. I never thought 1704 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: I'd ever hear the song with this late it is 1705 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,479 Speaker 1: on in New York City kind of it's actually northern 1706 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 1: New Jersey. And also the Giants maybe aren't that good. 1707 01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there are three 1708 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 1: and one after win over dop Bears. Daniel Jones. He 1709 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 1: was limited by an ankle injury in this game, even 1710 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 1: though he scored twice. He heard one of those scores there, 1711 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Bob Papa with the call on f A n Tyrod 1712 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 1: Taylor guess what he visited the unaffiliated had doctor guy 1713 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 1: that he was told he's done. So they the Giants 1714 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: and Brian Dable had to go into their bag and 1715 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 1: had to run wildcat offense to close out at twenty 1716 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 1: to twelve win. Uh. Se Kwan Barkley buck forty six 1717 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 1: uh in this game and he is having a monster year. 1718 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler uh and the Giants whatever. There. You can 1719 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,360 Speaker 1: only play your schedule and they are three and one 1720 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 1: and Giant stands and I noticed for effect are excited 1721 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 1: because you know, there's been a lot of lost seasons 1722 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 1: in the last few years. Who's you been. I mean, 1723 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,680 Speaker 1: it's not that different than Jets fans. It's like, just 1724 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 1: enjoy what you have going on right now. They are 1725 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 1: very These are two very atypical offenses. The Giants ran 1726 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 1: for two hundred and sixty two yards and passed the 1727 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 1: ball for a D two. I don't know what year 1728 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,840 Speaker 1: we would find that to be typical in. I mean, 1729 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 1: the Giants and Bears combined for two hundred and fifteen 1730 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 1: passing yards, which is easily, uh, the lowest between two 1731 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks this season. And you know that said, I thought 1732 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: the Giants, like with the way that they dominated on 1733 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,280 Speaker 1: the ground, uh, showed me something. It's like, I don't 1734 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 1: know what it is about them. They kind of are 1735 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 1: fun to watch in my opinion. Daniel Jones threw the 1736 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 1: ball thirteen times. Tyrod Taylor threw it three times. Like, 1737 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,640 Speaker 1: so it tells me that if you Brian Dable at 1738 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,400 Speaker 1: least is using the parts he has uh and making 1739 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the most of it. They've got a real issue at 1740 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Their wide receivers as a group today had 1741 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,200 Speaker 1: three catches for twenty five yards. So it's just this 1742 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,160 Speaker 1: is a team just trying to sort of survive. I 1743 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,640 Speaker 1: think right now, through some injuries and this part of 1744 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,560 Speaker 1: the season, and the Bears to me, um outside of 1745 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 1: being able to run the ball pretty well, and some 1746 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: of these weeks are an unwatchable offense with a quarterback 1747 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: that I don't know what to call other than maybe 1748 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,679 Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the league. I don't mean the worst. 1749 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 1: But just like justin fields, it's not developing the way 1750 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 1: that you would want. It's just not And so the 1751 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Chicago has got so much work to do in the 1752 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 1: rebuilding the Giants, uh, to me, they they had they 1753 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,840 Speaker 1: got a couple of great performances on defense as well. 1754 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: It was a weird game, but it was not. It 1755 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,800 Speaker 1: was not that it was not unexpected from what we 1756 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 1: thought we'd get from It was probably the worst game 1757 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 1: of the day. I'm just being real. I don't think, yeah, 1758 01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 1: there the Bears are like maybe the worst team in 1759 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 1: the league with their offense as bad as it is. 1760 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: They're in the running for that. So the Giants taking 1761 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 1: care of business is not stunning to me. Let's see, 1762 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't imagine they're gonna win against Green Bay in 1763 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,680 Speaker 1: London next week. I don't imagine they'll win against the 1764 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 1: Ravens the week after that, but show me Giants and 1765 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 1: fighting those games and be competitive and then maybe and 1766 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Greggy NFC that's quite muddled. We were down on the 1767 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 1: field with m J d uh doing a live hit 1768 01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: on the old jumbo tron at the Hot Toddy, which 1769 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 1: is always a weird experience but cool. Uh, and he 1770 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,880 Speaker 1: was making the case, Oh, you're we're definitely watching two 1771 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 1: playoff teams right now, referring to the Vikings and Saints. 1772 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, Sayancy, sure, I mean it's been a little 1773 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,960 Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, man, And you know I 1774 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,839 Speaker 1: love MGD because he speaks with total confidence on everything 1775 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: football related. Oh yeah, man, absolutely. Look look, dude, who 1776 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: else is in the NFC that you think could win 1777 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: the wild card? And I'm not saying the Giants are 1778 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 1: team I think could sneak in and grab one. But 1779 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 1: if you can steal one of these next two games, 1780 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 1: or at least play well, then maybe we could have 1781 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: some fun talking about the Giants as we get closer 1782 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,480 Speaker 1: to Halloween and beyond well, let's let's find a quarterback 1783 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 1: to bring to London. I mean, it would be a 1784 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,719 Speaker 1: really real shame if they're starting a third stringer uh 1785 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,680 Speaker 1: next week, because we always talk about we kind of 1786 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,799 Speaker 1: root for a good game if they're starting a third stringer. 1787 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 1: I guess the Packers showed that there's no lock against 1788 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,719 Speaker 1: third string quarterbacks today, but it feels like that would 1789 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:03,320 Speaker 1: be a tall, taller order for the Giants next week. Absolutely, 1790 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 1: so wearing a hold around the NFL podcast is on 1791 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: a hold on the Giants. But good for you guys 1792 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 1: three out of Yeah, you're selling, Yeah, I'm selling to 1793 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,760 Speaker 1: but like I'm on a hold on even giving you 1794 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 1: any like popularly for three and one, but I will 1795 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 1: give the eighties throwback uniforms, Like so you you guys 1796 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: are killing me for liking the the white out uniforms 1797 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks ago, like these uniforms today. 1798 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: It was more you stated. I think it was the 1799 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: way you stated it as like it was a really 1800 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,559 Speaker 1: important thing, and I was, like, I think it was important. 1801 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like also anything I'm saying at this 1802 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,519 Speaker 1: point in this show, it's what three oh six am, Um, 1803 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I'd need to be taken out with an arrow at 1804 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 1: this point. But like, I thought that watching those old 1805 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Giants uniforms, those are the first uniforms I ever watched. 1806 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,599 Speaker 1: I think and like it just there's something about this stage, 1807 01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,800 Speaker 1: this season, in this team under day ball just feel 1808 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 1: like a different Giants experience. So if you can feel 1809 01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,559 Speaker 1: that way about the Jets, I think Giants hit fans 1810 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,840 Speaker 1: can make this similar argument. Meanwhile, Bears fans are like, 1811 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 1: we have the same record as the Jets. He just 1812 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,720 Speaker 1: called us the worst team in the NFL. I think 1813 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: they're clearly they're openly rebuilding and like they've got issues. No, 1814 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. I have not said the Jets are a 1815 01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 1: good team. They're quite lucky to be too them too. 1816 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 1: But the Bears, I think that. I think the Bears 1817 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 1: are certainly in the bottom three. Maybe the Jets are 1818 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,880 Speaker 1: on the bottom five, but that's beside the point. Let's 1819 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:29,559 Speaker 1: move to m hmm, it's moving to an airplane. Maybe 1820 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,719 Speaker 1: put me in a box to ship me back. Let's 1821 01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: move to Houston. Billie Herbert lay action rolling to the right, 1822 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,000 Speaker 1: throwing to Ackler. He's got a late ten five to 1823 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 1: the young zone, hits the pilot, touch stuff chargers. Three 1824 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 1: pack of scores for Ackler this afternoon, This one from 1825 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 1: fourteen out there. It is Matt Money Smith and Daniel 1826 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Jeremiah on the call. K Y s R. Austin as 1827 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler has showed up twenty touchdowns last season, hadn't 1828 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,559 Speaker 1: been that guy so far this year, but scored three 1829 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:17,679 Speaker 1: to lead the Chargers to a win over the Texans. 1830 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert three forty and two touchdowns, big early lead. 1831 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:26,800 Speaker 1: It got tight late, Greggy, and we apologize ahead of 1832 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,639 Speaker 1: time to these two teams. Will give you more love 1833 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: later in the week. But anything you can say about 1834 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,599 Speaker 1: this game and turns like a cliffs notes matter. Yeah, 1835 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 1: like that. Even the Chargers Texans game at twenty point 1836 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 1: lead isn't safe. It really looked like they were gonna 1837 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,840 Speaker 1: potentially close this. I think the biggest development was their 1838 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 1: left tackle. They decided to start this rookie Jamari Sailor 1839 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 1: uh Or sail Year, I think is the way to 1840 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: say it. And he looked great at left tackle. Is 1841 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,880 Speaker 1: the best the running game has looked. Wasn't a failure, No, 1842 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,559 Speaker 1: And and they've been playing a storm Norton or whoever 1843 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,360 Speaker 1: in those spots like who knows if they found something, 1844 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 1: but it worked. It worked for today and Justin Herbert 1845 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,760 Speaker 1: looked looked fine. Good. They scored on five of the 1846 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:13,880 Speaker 1: first six positions to build that seven seven lead, and 1847 01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 1: um Joey Bosta the first of a long time, they're 1848 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 1: not going to have him in the lineup, so they 1849 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 1: get it started there and the Texans now or oh 1850 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 1: three and one, and at least they scored in the 1851 01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:32,759 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, because that hadn't happened until now that that 1852 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,120 Speaker 1: that did happen. I mean they scored, They scored ten points. 1853 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: It was a three point game after it was uh seven. 1854 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,040 Speaker 1: And then Brandon Staley grew some stones here, Dan, you 1855 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 1: know how he's been kind of not doing the fourth 1856 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 1: down thing as they were falling apart in Chargering, they 1857 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: went for fourth down after giving up that huge lead 1858 01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 1: in their own end, only up three with like four 1859 01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 1: and a half five minutes left, and they hit it 1860 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,600 Speaker 1: and then they end up hitting the touchdown later. That 1861 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,559 Speaker 1: drives a little stone, Serbis, What about our guy Damian Pierce, 1862 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,080 Speaker 1: who had I thought this first sort of break out 1863 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: play of the season today the beautiful. I mean there 1864 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 1: he goes all the way down the sideline. Any other 1865 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: any other questions about his play, I don't know. I 1866 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 1: would ask Greg how we how we how we looked 1867 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,360 Speaker 1: to him? No, we were kind of I was getting 1868 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 1: ready to move on, and then you wanted to pivot 1869 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 1: into a Damien Pierce. Let's table it till another day. No, because, 1870 01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 1: like I said, we could hit Pierce and anything else 1871 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,760 Speaker 1: connected to this game on Tuesday show or perhaps the 1872 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:48,360 Speaker 1: Thursday preview show. But now we must move. But he 1873 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,720 Speaker 1: had a hell of a long run to really get 1874 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,840 Speaker 1: the Texans going in this game. Thank you. I know 1875 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,160 Speaker 1: I saw the highlight. I have a Monday Night football 1876 01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 1: recap and roughly twenty four hours uh from now with 1877 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,640 Speaker 1: the with a special guest. All right, let's toss it 1878 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 1: to Nick Shook, who's going to handle the Sunday Night 1879 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:14,720 Speaker 1: football recap for us? Take it away any pipe, You 1880 01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:21,200 Speaker 1: never know what these guys for two. Mahomes on the move. 1881 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes stops, spins, flips it forward for the touchdown to 1882 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 1: Edward Tilaire. My Homes straddled a lot of scrimmage, flipped 1883 01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,040 Speaker 1: it to Edward Tilaire from the score. Mike Arico and 1884 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth on the call for NBC. After getting just 1885 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty one points a week ago, Week four, Sunday Night 1886 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,599 Speaker 1: Stars gave us seventy two. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs 1887 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,400 Speaker 1: jumped on the Buccaneers early, avenging their Super Bowl lost 1888 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,440 Speaker 1: to Tampa in the very same stadium with an emphatic 1889 01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 1: for win over Tom Brady's Buccaneers and this game. The 1890 01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:01,719 Speaker 1: tone was set early by Kansas City's special teams opening kickoff. 1891 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 1: They forced a fumble, recover, go down and immediately score 1892 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,439 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Before you know, they're up fourteen to three, 1893 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,160 Speaker 1: and in the second quarter earlier they're up twenty one 1894 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,040 Speaker 1: to three. That's the worst situation you can find yourself 1895 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 1: against a high powered offense like the Chiefs, which didn't 1896 01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,400 Speaker 1: look very high powered in in Indianapolis a week ago, 1897 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 1: but this time around they got everything ironed out. It 1898 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: was proven by their early score, by the fact that 1899 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,639 Speaker 1: they took an early lead. They were able to take 1900 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,280 Speaker 1: a lead into the final minutes of the first half 1901 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 1: before the Buccaneers woke up, and for a moment there 1902 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,599 Speaker 1: it looked like they might be able to find their 1903 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,679 Speaker 1: way back into this game. Tom Brady engineering at twelve 1904 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 1: place seventy five yard drive capped by a one yard 1905 01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: touchdown past to Mike Evans, the classic back corner fade 1906 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,559 Speaker 1: that they loved to throw to Mike Evans that made 1907 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,759 Speaker 1: it to seventeen, but again, because they spotted that early 1908 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,400 Speaker 1: lead to the Chiefs, they could never quite recover. The 1909 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs came out of halftime and continued their 1910 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 1: momentum offensively. They got whatever they wanted offensively for most 1911 01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:58,960 Speaker 1: of the night, and they they only came away with 1912 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,839 Speaker 1: a field goal in that opening drive. It essentially continued 1913 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,840 Speaker 1: where they were in the first half. A lot of 1914 01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,599 Speaker 1: that powered by, of course Patrick Mahomes and the magic 1915 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 1: he makes, but also a nice little two headed rushing 1916 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,040 Speaker 1: attack is developing with the Chiefs. Clyde Edwards, a Layer 1917 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,719 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Pacheco combined on thirty carries for a hundred 1918 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,040 Speaker 1: and fifty five yards and one touchdown on the night, 1919 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 1: bringing some much needed balance to this Chief's offensive attack, 1920 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,720 Speaker 1: and of course Mames spreading it around. He connected with 1921 01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,880 Speaker 1: eight different targets, Travis Kelsey leading the way with nine 1922 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 1: grabs for ninety two yards and a touchdown. And when 1923 01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,200 Speaker 1: they found themselves in a tough spot, maybe in the 1924 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 1: red zone, Patrick Mahomes and his magic making it work. 1925 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,280 Speaker 1: He had a really long scramble that I'm sure you've 1926 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 1: seen on your social accounts since now where he had 1927 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,680 Speaker 1: to scramble all the way around the field and then 1928 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,120 Speaker 1: dumped it off the Clyde Edwards a layer just behind 1929 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage for a touchdown. It was that 1930 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 1: kind of night for the Chiefs. No matter what they did, 1931 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,559 Speaker 1: most of it worked. They outgained the Buccaneers by you know, 1932 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 1: thirty or so yards, four seventeen to three seventy six. 1933 01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,840 Speaker 1: The Buccaneers, though, actually averaged more yards per play six 1934 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,200 Speaker 1: point four to five point four. But the biggest difference 1935 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 1: in this game, outside of the offensive power that Kansas 1936 01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,640 Speaker 1: City often displays, was how they owned the time of 1937 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,679 Speaker 1: possession battle. They kept the ball for thirty eight minutes 1938 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: and thirty eight seconds, which is a very visually pleasing number, 1939 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,920 Speaker 1: and it was also seventeen minutes more than the Buccaneers 1940 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,519 Speaker 1: had that night and a big reason for that third 1941 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 1: down success. The Chiefs constantly finding ways to work and 1942 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 1: continue their drives. Twelve of seventeen on third down Buccaneers 1943 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,400 Speaker 1: six of ten, which is sixty That's pretty good, but 1944 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't amount to the same type of numbers that 1945 01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are putting together when they're holding out of 1946 01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,719 Speaker 1: the ball for so long. You know, we came into 1947 01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,880 Speaker 1: this game. This is one of my sneaky underdog picks 1948 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 1: and that weekly Underdog's column, because hey, if the Buccaneers 1949 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 1: could continue to play defense like they've been playing for 1950 01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,160 Speaker 1: the last three weeks, I thought, well, they had a 1951 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 1: chance because their offense has been lagging behind. Of course, 1952 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,599 Speaker 1: but they were getting Mike Evans back, they were probably 1953 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna get Julio Jones back. They even got Chris Godwin back. Maybe, 1954 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,120 Speaker 1: just maybe they could bounce that out enough to get 1955 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 1: an upset win over the Chiefs. I was wrong. Todd 1956 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 1: bowles defense worst performance since he's joined the staff in 1957 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, allowed the most points in a single 1958 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,719 Speaker 1: game since he came over to the Buccaneers the previous 1959 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 1: high forty, which happened twice in two thousand nineteen. So 1960 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 1: they take a massive step back. Of course, it comes 1961 01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,120 Speaker 1: at the hands of the Chiefs, the most creative offense 1962 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, doing it in a number of different ways. 1963 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,719 Speaker 1: The Buccaneers offense, you know, they continue to move the football. 1964 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,760 Speaker 1: They looked more like the Buccaneers the last two years 1965 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,679 Speaker 1: than they have for the first few weeks of this season. 1966 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 1: But nothing was quick strike and when you're facing a 1967 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,439 Speaker 1: team like the Chiefs, and you dig yourself an early 1968 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 1: hole like they did on Sunday night, that becomes an issue. 1969 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,320 Speaker 1: They were able to move the ball down the field, 1970 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,080 Speaker 1: but there were methodical drives. In fact, they're Their quickest 1971 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 1: touchdown drive of the night was the touchdown late in 1972 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,559 Speaker 1: the game where they covered forties let's see, thirty four 1973 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 1: yards in five plays in a minute twelve and that 1974 01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: is really a product of the fact that they got 1975 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,599 Speaker 1: an interception Sean Murphy bonting intercepting Patrick Mahomes and put 1976 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,720 Speaker 1: them in Chiefs territory. Otherwise, slow long drives down the 1977 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 1: field to score touchdowns, that's not gonna be enough to 1978 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,720 Speaker 1: keep up with these Chiefs. And ultimately they ran out 1979 01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 1: of time. They just simply ran out of time because 1980 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 1: of the early hole that they dug themselves into. The 1981 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 1: good news, of course, like like I said, Mike Evans, 1982 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,880 Speaker 1: he's back on the field after that one game suspensioned 1983 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,720 Speaker 1: eight catches, a hundred three yards and two touchdowns, But 1984 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,759 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers couldn't really get out of their own way. 1985 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 1: Penalties killed their last ditch effort in the middle of 1986 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, down seventeen points forced them to punt, 1987 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,880 Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising, at least from my vantage point, 1988 01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,400 Speaker 1: because you're down seventeen to the Chiefs, a team that 1989 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 1: you've given up forty one points to. You know you're 1990 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:33,479 Speaker 1: not going to score quickly. You haven't really done it 1991 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 1: all night. You're gonna put it away, but again, you 1992 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:37,720 Speaker 1: got to preserve your opportunities to try and go down 1993 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 1: the field and make something happen and don't dig yourself 1994 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 1: even deeper of a deficit. So that kind of hurt 1995 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,639 Speaker 1: their momentum. They didn't really have much of a shot anyway. 1996 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,720 Speaker 1: They scored that late touchdown of course, uh you know, 1997 01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 1: to cut it to ten, but at that point they 1998 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 1: just simply ran out of time. No time outs left 1999 01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:54,559 Speaker 1: that they're trying to stop the clock to get the 2000 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 1: ball back just wasn't enough. And on the flip side, 2001 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, after struggling in Indianapolis, looking nothing like the 2002 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 1: Chiefs we've seen the last few years, basically beating themselves 2003 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 1: in that game, handing that victory to the Colts. They 2004 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,639 Speaker 1: come back and into Tampa, a place that they really 2005 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 1: wanted to go get that win. They want to avenge 2006 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,280 Speaker 1: that lost in Super Bowl fifty and they did it 2007 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:18,600 Speaker 1: with emphasis. Their offense is humming, running on all cylinders. 2008 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns for Patrick Mahomes, one pick that he threw 2009 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, which didn't amount too much in 2010 01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,360 Speaker 1: the end. Again, we talked about the rushing attack and 2011 01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of players getting involved in the passing game. 2012 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,200 Speaker 1: Let's keep an eye on that defense. Though these Chiefs 2013 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 1: in the past, a lot of them have been about offense. 2014 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,680 Speaker 1: This defense. You gotta watch them because they did give 2015 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 1: up thirty one points tonight, but they forced two turnovers. 2016 01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,160 Speaker 1: They got after Tom Brady an early fumble in the 2017 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,640 Speaker 1: first half, giving them the ball back, allowing them to 2018 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,879 Speaker 1: continue to build that lead. A nice sack from Lagarius 2019 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Sneed off the edge, that's what caused that fumble. You 2020 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,599 Speaker 1: gotta watch out for them because if they can balance 2021 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,880 Speaker 1: these two things out, I mean, they are already three 2022 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,040 Speaker 1: and one a top the a f C West, and 2023 01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,799 Speaker 1: they're looking strong right now. You know who needs Tyreek 2024 01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,720 Speaker 1: Hill when you got my homes and an offense that 2025 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 1: n's waste spread around to other talented pass catchers. So 2026 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,400 Speaker 1: a big win for the Chiefs, a win that was 2027 01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,519 Speaker 1: a statement game of sorts for them. To close out 2028 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: the first month of the season. Buccaneers, meanwhile, tell you 2029 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 1: what they look about the most frustrated to and two 2030 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,759 Speaker 1: team I've seen in a long time. It's been offensive 2031 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,360 Speaker 1: issues in the past. Tonight it was defensive issues and 2032 01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 1: just not being able to keep pace with the team 2033 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:22,559 Speaker 1: that they know is going to be in the running 2034 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. If these Buccaneers want 2035 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:25,840 Speaker 1: to get back to the Super Bowl, they want to 2036 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 1: go win another Lombardi. Tom Brady is not getting any younger. 2037 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 1: They might run into the same team that they did 2038 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,760 Speaker 1: beat in Super Bowl fifty five, and if they put 2039 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 1: on a performance like they did tonight, it's not gonna 2040 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:36,640 Speaker 1: turn out well for them. So they know they've got 2041 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:38,960 Speaker 1: to get things figured out. Defensively, they got to avoid 2042 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 1: the turnovers, and they had to figure out how to 2043 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 1: produce points quicker and oh, by the way, find a 2044 01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 1: way to run the football because on the crowd they 2045 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,640 Speaker 1: were horrible tonight. A rushing net of three yards. A 2046 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,719 Speaker 1: lot of that, of course, is a product of working 2047 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,360 Speaker 1: from behind. Tom Brady through fifty two passes for three 2048 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,519 Speaker 1: five yards and three touchdowns, he completed thirty nine of them. 2049 01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,000 Speaker 1: They had to throw the ball they were forced to 2050 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 1: and when you become one dimensional, it allows opposing defenses 2051 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,320 Speaker 1: to tee off, which is what the Chiefs were able 2052 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 1: to do to do tonight. So again, great win for 2053 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Back to the drawing Ford board for the Buccaneers. 2054 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,559 Speaker 1: Not the worst situation to be in at two and two, 2055 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,880 Speaker 1: but they still got things to figure out as they 2056 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 1: try to stay healthy and try to, you know, figure 2057 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 1: out how to manage this offense with the injuries that 2058 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,599 Speaker 1: they've suffered on the interior offensive line, which we knew 2059 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,080 Speaker 1: there was gonna be an issue going to the season. 2060 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,040 Speaker 1: I haven't quite figured that out yet either, So two 2061 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,080 Speaker 1: and two could be worse, but they know they've got 2062 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,479 Speaker 1: some things to figure out, and it's not super encouraging 2063 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,000 Speaker 1: for them. But they are still the Buccaneers. They still 2064 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady, They're still gonna be a contender. So 2065 01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 1: big win for the Chiefs and a great way to 2066 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,960 Speaker 1: close out Week four of the regular season until we 2067 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,160 Speaker 1: head to Monday Night. But in the meantime, I'm gonna 2068 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 1: send it back to London to the guys where they 2069 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,200 Speaker 1: getting ready to come back to the States. So Dan 2070 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 1: Gregg and Mark take it away. Fellis all right, we're back. 2071 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 1: Thank you to Nick Shook. Sincerely, thank you to Nick Shook, 2072 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 1: who uh has really stepped up as he always does, 2073 01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 1: helped us out last week when we were getting on 2074 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 1: the plane to come to London, helped us out tonight 2075 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,800 Speaker 1: when we are heading back to the States, and thank you, 2076 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you to everyone that helped make this 2077 01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:13,720 Speaker 1: amazing week possible for around the NFL. UM it was 2078 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,760 Speaker 1: a great It was such a fun, exciting time as 2079 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 1: it always is. The live show was something I'll never forget, uh, 2080 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 1: the excitement around that and um that experience, and none 2081 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,760 Speaker 1: of this happens without people like Henry Hotchin Um our 2082 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 1: friend but also a major figure in the UK side 2083 01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,880 Speaker 1: of things, just moved back from California after eleven years, 2084 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,519 Speaker 1: uh to doing some heavy lifting over there, and he 2085 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:45,639 Speaker 1: did some heavy lifting to get us to England this year. 2086 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,120 Speaker 1: So thank you to Henry and the entire NFL UK office, 2087 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 1: Nick Pike who helped us out today at the stadium, UH, 2088 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:58,400 Speaker 1: Matt Schneider, Charlie Euker, uh, Meredith everyone over there in 2089 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,919 Speaker 1: the state side us off us. Thank you to Jessica, 2090 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,160 Speaker 1: Justin's wonderful girlfriend who was a huge help to us 2091 01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 1: all week long as well any any other thank you 2092 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:12,759 Speaker 1: as we want to say. Boys, how about Mike Burko 2093 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 1: it's first setting up that that show. But no, I 2094 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,519 Speaker 1: think I'm thanking you for ending the thank you so 2095 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,240 Speaker 1: that we can we can't go to bed. It is wow, 2096 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:26,680 Speaker 1: it's past three am. It hasn't haven't you noticed? I 2097 01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,439 Speaker 1: was gonna say, haven't you noticed this whole nfl uk thing? 2098 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,640 Speaker 1: It is quite different than even five years ago, Like 2099 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,040 Speaker 1: we've been able to see the growth kind of on 2100 01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:37,559 Speaker 1: the ground. It's pretty different from from even five or 2101 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:39,320 Speaker 1: six years And I was saying that, I was saying 2102 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 1: to you Mark when we were walking outside the stadium 2103 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 1: and taking photos with people and just soaking in the vibe, 2104 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,160 Speaker 1: that it's hard to come home and readjust after the 2105 01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,719 Speaker 1: world wind that is the that are these London trips 2106 01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:56,639 Speaker 1: because everyone treats us so well and it's pretty it's 2107 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. And yes, thank you, special thank you to 2108 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,360 Speaker 1: Mike Burkewooz who who did every a lot of the 2109 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,679 Speaker 1: heavy lifting um in setting up that live show, which 2110 01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,960 Speaker 1: again was the highlight of the week for me. So yes, 2111 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,760 Speaker 1: it's not just us by far, it's a lot of 2112 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,720 Speaker 1: people helping out and Greg, we missed you today, like 2113 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 1: I would let you know that. Like we ran into 2114 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,640 Speaker 1: so many people that listen to the show, um and 2115 01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,519 Speaker 1: there were a really special audience, but a lot of 2116 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,760 Speaker 1: them their first question was like, where's Greg. We want 2117 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,839 Speaker 1: to see Greg too, So just you were you were missed. 2118 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:29,280 Speaker 1: You matter to these people as well. It's we. It 2119 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 1: was not the same and we and we did tell 2120 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,000 Speaker 1: them the truth that you killed a man and you're 2121 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,200 Speaker 1: currently in a county lock up outside London. I'm fighting, 2122 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm fighting the charges hard, I'm getting out and I 2123 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 1: didn't touch him well self defense. All right, thank you, 2124 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,599 Speaker 1: and thank you to Justin Graver who did excellent work 2125 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 1: producing all week and is such a weapon for us. 2126 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: So thank you buddy as well. Let's go, Yeah, let's 2127 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:04,479 Speaker 1: enjoy for the next two hours, Justin God willing. We 2128 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,840 Speaker 1: will be back with you on Tuesday, uh so make 2129 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: sure you're out looking out for that. And of course 2130 01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 1: the Monday night football recap I believe is going down 2131 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 1: as well, so be on the lookout for that. Until then, 2132 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,920 Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off for the Quiet Storm, Bill 2133 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:26,480 Speaker 1: Boss the Grave Digger another trip to London in the books, unbelievable. 2134 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 1: Either call