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Speaker 1: on the program today, Jordan's read from the Draft Network

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Speaker 1: nine in the second round. I think the Browns can

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Speaker 1: definitely do that at forty one, So I think would

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Speaker 1: be a home run for him if they get Simmons

435
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Speaker 1: and still get their Day one started at left tackle

436
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Speaker 1: on the second round. Let me run that same hypothetical

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Speaker 1: with you, but not with Simmons, but with a Jeffrey

438
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Speaker 1: Okuta or Derek Brown. Oh yeah, with that question, I

439
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Speaker 1: think any one of those guys would be terrific selections.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brown, Accuda, Simmons, any of those guys I

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Speaker 1: think definitely would be a priority over left tackle just

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Speaker 1: because of the type of skill set that they bring

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Speaker 1: to the table. And you just don't want to pass

444
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Speaker 1: over good players just because when you start reaching for need,

445
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Speaker 1: that's when you start getting yourself in trouble and you

446
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Speaker 1: start passing up good players. Talking with Jordan Reid from

447
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Speaker 1: the Draft Network, Jordan's if you take a look at

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Speaker 1: the second round, that pick at forty one, UM a

449
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Speaker 1: lot of options for the Browns, especially if they go

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Speaker 1: tackle a tent like most of think. They're going to

451
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Speaker 1: UM thinking that there could be needs a safety, there

452
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Speaker 1: could be needs at linebacker, edge rusher. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts in terms of the direction maybe the brown should

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Speaker 1: be looking in that second round. Well, they've kind of

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Speaker 1: remade the safety for the most part. Interesting. Dajo is

456
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Speaker 1: the guy that they brought in. Carl Joseph is another

457
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Speaker 1: one that they brought in. So even though most of

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Speaker 1: those guys probably aren't long term starters as far as

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Speaker 1: you know guy as, I think. I think what Drew

460
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Speaker 1: Berry has done a really good job of is that

461
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Speaker 1: he hasn't forced his hand into picking one position. And

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Speaker 1: I think with them filling in those guys right away

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Speaker 1: at that safety spot, it doesn't put it as huge

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Speaker 1: as a need at safety, but they lost some good

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Speaker 1: players in the middle of their defense, and I think

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Speaker 1: they need to get somebody at that second level the

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Speaker 1: defense out linebacker, So I think I would look there

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Speaker 1: for for pick. Willie Gate Jr. Is one guy that

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Speaker 1: I talked about earlier. Think forty one might be a

470
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Speaker 1: little bit too rich for him, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: one player that could be there. Bleek Harrison from Ohio

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Speaker 1: State is one that I think would be a really

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Speaker 1: good fit. He has a really interesting story, a guy

474
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Speaker 1: that was a former quarterback coming into a OI State

475
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Speaker 1: and then the transition to linebacker. Somilly Carrison is one

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Speaker 1: guy that I definitely think could be worthy of that

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Speaker 1: forty one overall big and then even there's some other

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Speaker 1: more down the line guys that I think could be

479
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Speaker 1: worthy as well. So it's just a matter of exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Browns wants to do at that forty one

481
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Speaker 1: overall big, But they could select the safety as well.

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Speaker 1: This is a very deep safety class, and I think

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Speaker 1: very similar to offensive tackle. It's just a matter of

484
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Speaker 1: exactly what type of safety that you want. There's guys

485
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Speaker 1: that can play one high, there's something that can sit

486
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Speaker 1: on the roof to play that one opposition. You have

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Speaker 1: your traditional strong safety role. But one guy I think

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna like a lot, it's just depends on

489
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Speaker 1: if they're comfortable with his medical history is Antoine Winfield Jr.

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Speaker 1: He's one guy that the one guy that I think

491
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Speaker 1: would be a very good fit for the Browns defense.

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Speaker 1: There any pass records that catch your eye being a

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Speaker 1: potentially available with forty one, I think there's a precipitous

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Speaker 1: drop off with this edge group, just because after Chase

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Speaker 1: Young and Claib and Tayson, I think I think things

496
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Speaker 1: can a little bit tricky. You get into guys like

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Speaker 1: Zack barn from Wisconsin. He could be there fort j F. Vanessa,

498
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Speaker 1: who seems to be following a little bit after his

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Speaker 1: combined performance. But after that you're getting the guys that

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of injury history. Darrel Taylor from

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Speaker 1: Tennessee is one that comes to minds of bars Are

502
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Speaker 1: Ego from Florida. Two guys that really have had some

503
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Speaker 1: some medical history in the past, but they have that

504
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Speaker 1: potential that you're looking I just would be more comfortable

505
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Speaker 1: taking them in the third round as opposed to the

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Speaker 1: second round. Jordan, we appreciate the time. I know you're busy.

507
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Speaker 1: I know you've gotta lot go on. Even though you're

508
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Speaker 1: staying at home like everybody else in the country, there's

509
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Speaker 1: plenty of work to get done here over the next

510
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Speaker 1: two weeks leading up to the NFL Draft. You can

511
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Speaker 1: follow him at j Reid NFL r E. I D

512
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Speaker 1: not tight End and we appreciate your time. Jordan has

513
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Speaker 1: always keep up the great work over at the Draft Network.

514
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me. It was a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Jordan Read for his time. Gribbs,

516
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Speaker 1: your big takeaway from the Jordan Read interview, Well, it's

517
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Speaker 1: interesting because he's one of the many people who believe

518
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Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills is the best tackle in this year's draft.

519
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Speaker 1: But then that raises the issue though he wasn't too great,

520
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Speaker 1: too too big on Wills moving to a different position,

521
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Speaker 1: and the Browns don't need him to play right tackle,

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Speaker 1: they need him play left tackle. So that to me,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I wonder. I think Wills has the

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Speaker 1: potential and and like Jordan said, he's probably the safest

525
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft, but I do wonder what the

526
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Speaker 1: adjustment curve would be like for him moving to left tackle,

527
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Speaker 1: which I presume he would if the Browns took him.

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Speaker 1: That's why to me, it's it's looking more and more

529
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Speaker 1: like if you're looking for the best left tackle in

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Speaker 1: this draft at number ten, it keeps lining up to

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Speaker 1: me as being Andrew Thomas, because I think when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the skill set that might be needed in

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Speaker 1: the wide zone, the realistic chances that the players there

534
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Speaker 1: at number ten, Thomas is the one that seems to

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Speaker 1: be making the most sense to me at this point.

536
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Speaker 1: But to me, to me right now, though I still

537
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Speaker 1: see all four guys on the table see and it's interesting.

538
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Speaker 1: We've had Joe Thomas and John Greco on Brown's Daily

539
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Speaker 1: say that Tristan, worst to them, has some arm length

540
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Speaker 1: questions and might end up being a better guard than

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Speaker 1: a tackle. You've got the wills comments today from Jordan

542
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Speaker 1: Reed saying well, I don't know if you can make

543
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Speaker 1: the switch over to left tackle, you can play right tackle.

544
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Speaker 1: And if those two situations are indeed the case, you've

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Speaker 1: got two tackles, which would lend me to think that

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Speaker 1: if one or both of them aren't around, the situation

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Speaker 1: is the Browns would trade back and try to go

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Speaker 1: for that, maybe that second tier of tackles, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, they'd be in the first tier if it

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Speaker 1: weren't for the tackle class being so deep. Yeah, the

551
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Speaker 1: name you keep hearing thrown around at the Browns is

552
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Speaker 1: ez Are Cleveland. I mean, Dane brought him up last

553
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Speaker 1: week on the podcast, and the guy tested out really

554
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Speaker 1: well at the combine. Great last name. You know all

555
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Speaker 1: the things that that fit with what you're looking to do,

556
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Speaker 1: and there could be some real value if you're able

557
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Speaker 1: to trade back. It's just a matter of how far

558
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Speaker 1: do you move back to to a point where you're

559
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Speaker 1: comfortable enough of getting him and what kind of officer.

560
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Speaker 1: Are you looking to get I mean, are you hoping

561
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Speaker 1: to acquire another second round pick? Maybe it would it

562
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Speaker 1: be multiple picks. I mean, that's that's the that's the

563
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: tough decision that Andrew Berry would have to make if

564
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Speaker 1: if if the guy, if their top choice maybe isn't

565
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Speaker 1: there at number ten. All right? Do you agree with

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Speaker 1: him when he says, if Simmons is on the board

567
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Speaker 1: and one of the four tackles at number ten, that

568
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Speaker 1: you go with the best player available instead of taking

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Speaker 1: for need, I do if you have a solid backup

570
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Speaker 1: plan to get the left tackle addressed. And that's that

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Speaker 1: that so it really matters on how these other guys

572
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Speaker 1: are ranked. So if you if you have this your

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Speaker 1: confidence in that second group, and you have the means

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Speaker 1: to go get that person if it if you're probably

575
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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get him at forty one,

576
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Speaker 1: then you do whatever you can to go get that player.

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Speaker 1: And I think that means is a clearly exceptional player.

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Speaker 1: You also, I mean the Browns left tackle, they also

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Speaker 1: need some linebackers. So I mean it's not as if

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Speaker 1: Simmons is out there playing you know, wide receiver or

581
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Speaker 1: something like that. I mean this is a linebacker that

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Speaker 1: the team really needs, so I would I would not

583
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Speaker 1: hesitate with the Simmons pick. But then you better have

584
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Speaker 1: a plan to go address your left tackle situation, because

585
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Speaker 1: waiting until forty one probably isn't the plan if you're

586
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Speaker 1: trying to maybe get that second tier guy who probably

587
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: won't be there for you one alright. Also, Jordan Reid

588
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Speaker 1: wanted to let us know that this coming Monday, their

589
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: Draft guide will be out on the Draft network dot com.

590
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: You can access it there. Uh some great stuff from Jordan,

591
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Speaker 1: and we appreciate his time and wish him continued success.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things before we get out of here.

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Speaker 1: On a Thursday, only three teams the top three teams

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Speaker 1: have contacted Chase Young. Are you surprised by that? It's

595
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Speaker 1: not really just because I think it's it's one of

596
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Speaker 1: those foregone conclusions that they might think they have no

597
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Speaker 1: chance of getting him. It might be that they think

598
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Speaker 1: that he's a Redskins player or bust. And so I

599
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Speaker 1: think when you're going through this process where you've got

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Speaker 1: to maximize every moment you have with guys that are

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Speaker 1: realistic to you, that that that's to me probably what

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Speaker 1: what why why it's happening. I mean, the situation is

603
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: already crunched with how much time you're getting with the

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Speaker 1: players you're you're able to talk to. So now there's

605
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Speaker 1: even more pressure to absolutely maximize every bit of exposure

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Speaker 1: you get to the players who you might take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just it shoots the Redskins a little bluff right

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Speaker 1: in the foot that, well, we're open for business and

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Speaker 1: we're thinking about taking a quarterback. That doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen matter, But if the Redskins do take

611
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, everyone's probably well, the lines will not hesitate.

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Speaker 1: I mean they'll they'll go, they'll go get chasing them.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the that would be I imagine is

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Speaker 1: what what's being assumed by most teams. Right by the way,

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Speaker 1: Ron rivera uh on Wednesday said, if it's a shortened

616
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Speaker 1: training camp that he thinks Kyle Allen would be the

617
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Speaker 1: front runner to be the starting quarterback on opening day.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's intriguing. I mean that I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's a way to get Haskins motivated. It's not

620
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Speaker 1: as if Haskins didn't play last year. I mean that

621
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Speaker 1: got just as much as Kyle Allen didn't he I

622
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Speaker 1: mean I think you played a little more. You're splitting

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Speaker 1: hairs on who was better either, I mean they both were.

624
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Speaker 1: I mean they were acceptable. I think at the position.

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Speaker 1: I think Alan had had a few more highlights maybe,

626
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Speaker 1: but he had a better team. Uh, you know, Haskins

627
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Speaker 1: didn't have Christian McCaffrey behind in Washington. So I mean

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Speaker 1: it's all about maybe it's all about keeping Haskins motivated,

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Speaker 1: or on the other side, it's like maybe that they've

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Speaker 1: just they're moving on potentially. It's just I mean, Haskins

631
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Speaker 1: isn't Rivera's guy. So I mean that there's there's no unit.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that before. I mean, once you're the people

633
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Speaker 1: who were around to pick you, aren't there anymore? Loyalty

634
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Speaker 1: just isn't isn't this drunk? Yeah, no question? All right.

635
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Speaker 1: Peter King was on the Pet McAfee show and he

636
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Speaker 1: says that there are people in the Bengals building. Wouldn't

637
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Speaker 1: name names, but he said there are people that love

638
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. And he said if he were the Miami Dolphins,

639
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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins were totally one hundred and fifty bought

640
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Speaker 1: in to Joe Burrow as the guy that they needed

641
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Speaker 1: to have to restart their franchise, that the Dolphins should

642
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Speaker 1: call the Bengals and offer them four number one picks

643
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Speaker 1: over this year and the three this year one of

644
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Speaker 1: their two next year. That would still leave them with

645
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Speaker 1: one first rounder next year and four two's this year

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Speaker 1: and next to go with Burrow. Do you, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, do you really need to move up? Are

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Speaker 1: you really that desperate to go get Joe Burrow that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you four number one picks? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the craziest idea. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think like if you, if you, if

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Speaker 1: you think he's the best quarterback and he can help

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Speaker 1: your franchise and you feel wishy washy on on the

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Speaker 1: other two, I mean, then you have to do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean we didn't we have these discussions back a

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Speaker 1: few years ago, like how many first round picks would

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Speaker 1: you try to get Andrew Luck on your team? And

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Speaker 1: would the Colts even take it? I mean, what would

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Speaker 1: be the number that the Colts would take it at?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's the craziest idea. And

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Speaker 1: then if but I just I would more think I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Bengals would take it unless they really

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Speaker 1: do believe in Justin Herbert, who again, as we've talked

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Speaker 1: about the podcast for it, they've they've had exposure to

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. They spent a whole week with them. They've

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Speaker 1: had more time with Justin Herbert than they've had with

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow. So I don't it would be the

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Speaker 1: It would be a crazy trade. I think it would

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Speaker 1: be a risky trade. But when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position, I think all bets are off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is like the Kawhi Leonard Paul George narratory where

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Speaker 1: you're thrown around seven first round picks or whatever it

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Speaker 1: was that got the deal done. Uh there. So I think,

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Speaker 1: especially when one of their backup options for beyond Burrow

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Speaker 1: is a guy with a hip injury, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy. This is why you, this

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Speaker 1: is why you tanked, this is why you you you

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Speaker 1: you you were so bad and got all the assets

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Speaker 1: that it's to make deals like this. It's to make

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Speaker 1: the crazy deals to get to to get the player

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Speaker 1: you believe will turn around your franchise. And there's no

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Speaker 1: position more important than quarterback. It is a long way

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Speaker 1: from pick number one to pick number five. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like it, but it is a long long way

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Speaker 1: from number one two number five. I don't I think

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Speaker 1: you have so many holes. If you're the Dolphins, if

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Speaker 1: that's your guy, and like you said, if you believe

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Speaker 1: that he's the face of the franchise and he can

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Speaker 1: he can change everything, then I guess you go get him.

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Speaker 1: I just think you're gonna get your quarterback a number five.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's no way that Chase Young is gonna

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Speaker 1: fall to number five. No, I mean that would be

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Speaker 1: quite the amazing turnaround right there. Um in terms of

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Speaker 1: all Couta and Simmons, maybe they could fall, maybe there'll

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Speaker 1: be a tackle, maybe someone makes a trade with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: But it's one of those things where it's like you

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Speaker 1: go through your first year with two attack of Volo

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Speaker 1: and he's not playing all that much because he's hurt,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, man, did we really pass on Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow because we were able to draft Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones? Like is that is that? Are those the

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Speaker 1: two guys that are holding us back from the quarterback

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Speaker 1: we really want. I mean, that's that's the way you

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Speaker 1: have to approach this. I mean, there's creative ways you

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Speaker 1: can fix your other holes. There's not really many creative

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Speaker 1: ways you can get the quarterback of your future, especially

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Speaker 1: with as much draft capitalist. I don't hate the idea.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the Bengals are interested. No, I

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Speaker 1: still I still think the Bengals. I think people are

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Speaker 1: overthinking things. And I think two weeks from now, um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be quite a simple decision, and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is going to be the number one pick in this draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, o, kid, it just makes too much sense.

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Speaker 1: It's what we do, and it's that we get bored

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Speaker 1: with the expected. And I think that this year is

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Speaker 1: but there's been way less draft type than usual, but

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Speaker 1: we even then, we still get bored with what's expecting.

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Speaker 1: Usually they said there's not many surprises with the number

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Speaker 1: one pick. There's usually not many surprises the number two pick.

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Speaker 1: So it's just it's one of those things where you

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Speaker 1: try to create a little excitement for for what's ultimately

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Speaker 1: going to be the inevitable. All Right, the draft is

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Speaker 1: two weeks from today, and we are back with you

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. UH. In terms of the top five at

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Speaker 1: each position. We will talk quarterback next week and the

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Speaker 1: top five at that position. A few other positions as well,

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Speaker 1: including corner and safety. I do believe, so we will

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Speaker 1: have you covered next Tuesday and then next Thursday, Dane

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Speaker 1: Brugler rejoins us to preview the draft one week out.

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