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Speaker 2: Well that's right, you heard the man A time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Friday. We are company A live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Take up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern as usual.

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Speaker 2: I've got about eight hours worth of material. We'll do

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Speaker 2: our best to squeeze it into four. Speaking of four,

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Speaker 2: we've already had for exciting football games since Thursday. One Thursday,

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Speaker 2: one Friday, double header on Saturday, We've got a triple

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Speaker 2: Monday night, which will lead us into another weekend next

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Speaker 2: weekend of football in the National Championship game on Monday night,

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth. We're gonna get to all of it and

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Speaker 2: much more. I've got a ton of stuff to get to.

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Speaker 2: But I I begin with an old Chinese proverb which states,

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Speaker 2: you can curse the darkness, or you can light a candle.

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Speaker 2: You see, when Caleb Williams joined the Chicago Bears last year,

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Speaker 2: watching him his habits, his proclivities, his style of play,

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Speaker 2: I did not have a lot of high hopes for

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Speaker 2: that situation. Enter Ben Johnson and what a difference a

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Speaker 2: year makes, and at this time, let me just say this.

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Speaker 2: I saw John Elway play at a young age. I

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Speaker 2: saw Pat Pat Maholmes. We all saw Patrick Mahomes play.

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Speaker 2: This is not hyperbole. Caleb Williams says, the kind of

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Speaker 2: ceiling both of those guys had. Let's cut to the chase,

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Speaker 2: and I have to eat some croll because I didn't

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Speaker 2: think he would. But listen, he hasn't won anything yet,

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Speaker 2: except he did win his very first playoff game. For

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Speaker 2: all the accolades, Matt Stafford gets he got a hell

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Speaker 2: of a time trying to do that in Detroit, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any crap about it. Never

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Speaker 2: had any support, I get it. Most of the teams

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Speaker 2: he was on were bad, but he couldn't elevate the

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Speaker 2: good ones either. Bottom line is this, Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: Has done that.

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Speaker 2: The final metaphor, he hit Dj Moore for a twenty

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Speaker 2: five yard go ahead touchdown with a buck forty three

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Speaker 2: left to go Saturday night, a completely furious comeback, and

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Speaker 2: for the seventh time this season, Chicago won a game

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Speaker 2: that are trailed in the final two minutes of regulation. Now,

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Speaker 2: I kept I've been waiting for the Bears to come

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Speaker 2: back to earth in this high wire act. They might not,

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Speaker 2: they might not. They're the number two seed. They're going

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Speaker 2: to get an their home game next weekend. Let's take

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Speaker 2: it a day at a time. See, here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams can put you through the full gamut of

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Speaker 2: emotions on every damn play. But then you watch him

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Speaker 2: pick up a fourth and eight and a third and

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Speaker 2: ten on his way to a touchdown pass cut the

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Speaker 2: lead to three and turned Soldier Field into a frenzy. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, is my buddy Steve hezitk likes to say

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Speaker 2: he because he loves spinal tappy. He turned it all

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Speaker 2: the way up to eleven. The crowd was up to eleven. Okay,

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Speaker 2: see for what it is. There's something magical about Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams just because Lincoln Riley couldn't bring it out he

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Speaker 2: thought he sort of did. But you watch him get

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Speaker 2: the ball back after the Packers missfield goal well two

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's gonna do it again? Why?

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Speaker 2: Well, it turns out Caleb Williams can simply make other

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Speaker 2: throws other quarterbacks can't make. He appears to be the

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Speaker 2: kind of player who when the heat is hot and

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Speaker 2: it's hard to breathe and the situation de man's greatness.

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Speaker 2: He's not panicking. He doesn't bat a thousand, but you

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Speaker 2: pour boiling water down his throat and he's gonna pee

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Speaker 2: ice cubes. That's what I see in him. Even when

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Speaker 2: the chips are down, when it's not going great, you

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Speaker 2: And now he's got receipts. He's only Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 2: only in his second season as an NFL quarterback. Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson's in his first year as an NFL head coach.

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Speaker 2: Chicago win eleven and six this year. Look what they

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Speaker 2: did under matter at EBERFLUS the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: or certainly last year. They win the division and they

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Speaker 2: beat three other teams who actually made the playoffs last season.

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Speaker 2: And the Bears have a chance to win the whole

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Speaker 2: damn thing. I'm not predicting it that they have a chance.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they have plenty of skill position talent

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Speaker 2: what the Bears might do next year if they start

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Speaker 2: beefing up that defense. All right, My biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 2: that game is you better recognize it's happened too many times.

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Speaker 2: When they were down twenty one to three, then twenty

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Speaker 2: Stafford wouldn't have done that. I don't care give all

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Speaker 3: Know what I know. But Kayleb Williams did.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Stafford, the Rams survived a hell of a scare.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was really giving the Panthers a chance to win

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Speaker 2: the game. Yes, they were a ten and a half

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Speaker 2: the last eleven years, bet wildcard dogs wildcard week and

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Speaker 2: you'd be about sixty six percent, they're two and oh.

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Speaker 2: Well dogs were two and oh on Saturday. Case in point.

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Speaker 2: But look, the NFC South Champs only the seventh time

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Speaker 2: But the last time that caught my eye was in

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Speaker 2: at the seven and nine Seattle Seahawks hosted a very tough,

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Speaker 3: That's the day Beast mode was born. So it's the

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Speaker 3: National Football League get scholarships on the other side as well.

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Speaker 2: But I've been hearing for weeks and I'm not buying

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Speaker 2: Why the defense had fallen off quite ad been by

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now, the Rams, as long as Puka Nakup

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Speaker 2: But football's played in three phases, and if Carolina can

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Speaker 2: expose a weakness in cornerback with Ted McMillan and Jalen

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Speaker 2: much better teams, If what I I think it's going

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Speaker 3: Out of a hat. Their schemes were not always crisp.

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams can become very stubborn in certain

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Speaker 2: better catch. So at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 2: Rams win the game. But there's another issue too. They

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Speaker 2: The Rams got to win, and that's all that matters

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Speaker 2: survive in advance at this point. But yet another special

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Speaker 2: A block punt handed Carolina a short field to take

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Speaker 3: The special teams can win you a game or lose

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Speaker 2: And now you've got the Rams defense trending in the

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Speaker 3: They have to get on the field against the Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Let's give a little respect to the Carolina Panthers. I

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Speaker 2: get it, the Rams. They almost let that one get away,

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Speaker 2: but they don't have a god given right to win

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Speaker 2: that game. Let's give credit or credits, dude, Dave Canalis

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Speaker 2: He's a guy I've been high on. I know I've

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Speaker 2: Six weeks ago, Carolinas stunned the same Los Angeles team

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Speaker 2: But everybody said that can't happen again. Today, that won't

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Speaker 2: was a very impressive performance. Bryce Young stepped up in

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Speaker 2: They frustrated Stafford until the very end. Carolina held its

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be Philadelphia on the road. I

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Speaker 2: So very exciting. I think Saturday of NFL football and

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Speaker 2: whether or not you liked, you know, the games in

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Speaker 2: Miss game against Miami was terrific. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: uh you know, even though Indiana, yeah, they did that

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Speaker 2: a week from Monday, so Khmer many days at is

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Speaker 2: January nineteenth will be the final game in college football

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Speaker 2: this year to decide the champion national championship. Indiana currently

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Speaker 2: is a seven and a half point favorite over over Miami.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to have a full, full breakdown of

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Speaker 2: I want to touch on a couple of things for

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Speaker 2: the simple reason that I went back and watched the

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Speaker 2: Penn State game.

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Speaker 3: And how did Penn State keep that game so close?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jim Knowles and his defense dialed up pressure, relentless

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Speaker 3: That's one. Hi, Joe, how are you buddy? How are

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Speaker 3: you you there? Joe?

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Speaker 3: This Joe Gibbs.

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Speaker 6: Joe, let you buffalo?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know what's going on here. That that

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Speaker 7: How a right, Joe, Joe good, Bernie, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: I was about to paraphrase your notes with Brad Allen

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Speaker 3: I agree with everything you said, Joe.

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Speaker 2: The thing is is that the playoffs are entirely different

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Alan that could tell me it's the season,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look Philly, rest of the guys last

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Speaker 7: Oh no, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 7: I think the Eagles and the Rams. I still think

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Speaker 2: All right, another game, Joe, I want to go to

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Speaker 2: England's had a fabulous regular season, but does that translate

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs? And I think this is going to

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Speaker 2: be a fist fight in a phone booth. And when

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Speaker 2: you compare the two quarterbacks justin Herbert Drake May, that's

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Speaker 2: a coin flip right there, except Herbert does have more

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Speaker 2: experience in the playoffs. I feel like there's a field

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Speaker 2: goal game, but talk about how the referees and their

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Speaker 2: tendencies might perhaps affect the outcome.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So Ron Torbot he's the head referee with two

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Speaker 7: of these regular crew members, his crew focuses more along

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Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage, the offensive line of scrimmage, far

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Speaker 7: more than the average crew does. They lead the league

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Speaker 7: in pre snap penalties. That offensive holding full start combination

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Speaker 7: is a point of emphasis not only with Torbert, but

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Speaker 7: a couple of other members of the crew that he

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Speaker 7: has on here from other crews that have been added.

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Speaker 7: So that's really to me where I look at the game,

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Speaker 7: and you know, charge defense is the number one unit

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Speaker 7: of generating offensive holding penalties on opposing offenses. The Patriots

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Speaker 7: defense is top ten at generating false starts on opposing offenses.

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Speaker 7: So you got the combination. They are two defenses to

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Speaker 7: create havoc, and you've got a referee crew that sort

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Speaker 7: of zero's in on that line of scrimmage. Now the

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Speaker 7: positive he would be offensive holding is called at a

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Speaker 7: lower rate in the playoff games. The NFL kind of

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Speaker 7: sends out a memo and they tell the referee crews

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Speaker 7: to ease up on this stuff because they want an

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Speaker 7: aesthetically pleasing game that I don't want it to be

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Speaker 7: bugged down with ten yard holding penalties. And so that

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Speaker 7: may lighten the load here for each offensive line and

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Speaker 7: they may get some leeway, but I kind of lean

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Speaker 7: to the under in this one. Tobot's been a pretty

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Speaker 7: good under referee going back to the start of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 7: whose games go under at about a fifty seven percent

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Speaker 7: rate and including nine to seven under this season. You know,

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Speaker 7: Pabo and Rabele are two similar coaches that they're happy

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Speaker 7: to play that smash smash mouth type football. You know,

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Speaker 7: I thought twenty three twenty either way, I don't have

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Speaker 7: a strong opinion on the side. I just think it's

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Speaker 7: going to be kind of one of those old school,

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Speaker 7: you know, smash mouth top football games.

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Speaker 3: Was the total like forty three and a half something

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Speaker 3: like that? Is it's right around that?

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Speaker 7: No, No, it's forty six, forty five.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Really well, you know that doesn't surprise me because the

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Speaker 2: Patriots do have big play capability. I mean, they're They're

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Speaker 2: pervertical passing attack is pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, actually to that point, Bunie, I've been a

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Speaker 7: bit of a remind you of this. Tolbot's crucal the

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Speaker 7: fewest defensive poss and appearance penalties in the league. So

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Speaker 7: if you see a couple of holding calls tomorrow night

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Speaker 7: and they don't call it. Well, that's the reason why

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Speaker 7: these guys called by father fewest defensive posts and appearance

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Speaker 7: penalties in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: All right, so believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: Of the remaining four games left, if there was only

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Speaker 2: one I could watch, Joe, it would be the Monday

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Speaker 2: night till as. The Texans visit Pittsburgh for a couple

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Speaker 2: of reasons, and and that's this is a game where

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Speaker 2: Craig Rolstad will be the head crew chief. And we'll

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Speaker 2: get to your thoughts on that in a second. But

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Speaker 2: this has a couple of very interesting storylines, obviously, not

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Speaker 2: the least of which is Aaron Rodgers. This is precisely

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Speaker 2: the reason that Pittsburgh got Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see if that experiment works.

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Speaker 2: And they're going up against the team I was in

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Speaker 2: Houston this past week for four days, and their gaga

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Speaker 2: about their Texans. They started out ozing three. Now they

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Speaker 2: think they can really win the Super Bowl. Here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 2: We know how strong Mike Tomlin is as an underdog

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Speaker 2: particular and underdog at home, but with Craig Rollstad, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: is only two and three against the number as a

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Speaker 2: home underdog. So you've got Aaron Rodgers, You've got Craig

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Speaker 2: Rollstad in that stat take it away. Give me your

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Speaker 2: thoughts in this game and what you see the outcome.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so historically home underdogs have really struggled with the Rollstads, Cruz.

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Speaker 7: This is going back to twenty sixteen home dogs twenty

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Speaker 7: six forty four and two against the spread just thirty

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Speaker 7: seven percent. And so you mentioned that they gaga for

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Speaker 7: the Texans down in Houston. Well, I'm gaga for the

516
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Speaker 7: Texans as well because I got some futures on them.

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Speaker 7: But I'm a little I'm a little concerned here. Is

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Speaker 7: that voodoo Pittsburgh magic. I don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 7: but I do like Houston in the game. This crew

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Speaker 7: look again the offensive holding. It's not a big point

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Speaker 7: of emphasis for this crew, but it is a problem

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Speaker 7: for Houston in the regular season. But to my point earlier,

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Speaker 7: the league tends to overlook some of these calls in

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Speaker 7: the playoffs, so that could be a benefit for Houston.

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Speaker 7: Rollsteds crew do call a lot of automatic first downs

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Speaker 7: via penalty award. A lot of those, so Houston's very

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Speaker 7: a depth at generating those big penalties via depensive pass

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Speaker 7: in appearance, defensive holding, illegal contact, and so Everymas you've

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Speaker 7: seen how tightly.

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Speaker 9: They call it.

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Speaker 7: But rollsted games. This is an interesting one. Averaged the

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Speaker 7: most turnovers per game in twenty twenty five, actually by

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Speaker 7: quite a wide margin the game itself. I like Houston,

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Speaker 7: but I'm a little bit based. As I said, I

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Speaker 7: got some futures on them. I'm just not sure how

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Speaker 7: much Pittsburgh can do offensively. I haven't you know that

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Speaker 7: sixteen seventeen point range, And if the Texans offense is serviceable,

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Speaker 7: I think they do just enough, you know, to get

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Speaker 7: that win, you know, twenty sixteen, twenty one, seventeen, something

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Speaker 7: like that.

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Speaker 2: So the last time I believe the Steelers won a

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Speaker 2: home playoff game was eight nine years ago against the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: And in your notes it was creditstad So Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Again that was lost on Pittsburgh and it was against

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you right now, we're watching it, Bunny the

547
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Speaker 7: m Casino. It was the Pittsburgh Steelings versus the Matt

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Speaker 7: Moore led Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, one thirty to twelve.

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Speaker 2: January twenty seventeen, I remember, I remember that, and then

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh was home the following week and lost to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: I believe, correct, correct, Yeah, maybe it's come full circle

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Speaker 7: and Pittsburgh gets back into the winning, you know, into

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Speaker 7: the win call them in the playoffs at home, and

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Speaker 7: Rolstead's the guy to do it once again. I like Houston,

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Speaker 7: but I'm a little concerned. But we'll find out Monday night. Uh.

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Speaker 2: So, last question, Joe, just from a general handicapping standpoint,

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Speaker 2: can you're good handicapper?

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Speaker 3: You've got four home teams.

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Speaker 2: You had two visiting teams that easily both could have

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Speaker 2: won today, one did and the other didn't.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you've got four home teams.

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Speaker 2: Which is the most vulnerable of these four home teams Jacksonville? Uh,

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia in your in your view, in your yes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, probably Jacksonville because to the point that I made

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Speaker 7: and you sort of said the same thing that this

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Speaker 7: is kind of a spot for the Jags as a

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Speaker 7: one of those good regular season teams that can't take

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Speaker 7: it up a notch in the playoffs, and so that

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Speaker 7: is a son to me. So I would say Jacksonville

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Speaker 7: and the home field advantage.

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Speaker 10: Is not great to be he with.

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Speaker 7: Let's be honest, it's not a Rabbit home field by

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Speaker 7: any stretch of the imagination. There'll probably be a lot

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Speaker 7: of Buffalo fans there tomorrow. So yeah, the of the

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Speaker 7: four teams, I think Jacksonville probably the one that ye

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Speaker 7: may slip up.

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Speaker 2: Joel, great stuff. As always, we'll have you on again

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Speaker 2: seen this before. Do you got some perspective? The Raiders

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Speaker 2: tear right now. I actually think it's a good job. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's nowhere to go but up, nowhere to go but up.

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Speaker 2: You know, when John Harbaugh took over the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 2: to pick up the pieces, all right, But you've got

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Speaker 3: You get to live here in Las Vegas, fabulous city,

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Speaker 3: on water. Now, not everybody sees it that way. Are

653
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Speaker 3: you joining a clown show?

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Speaker 2: There's a reason they're paying five coaches fifty million last year.

655
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Speaker 2: I mean the John and Gruden thing, which is bad

656
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: luck and stupidity.

657
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Speaker 3: Then he replaced him.

658
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Speaker 2: I thought Rich Bisacia, they're not paying him. I thought

659
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Speaker 2: he deserved a shot as an interim. They didn't do that.

660
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: Mark Mark Davis wanted to go big name hunting. He

661
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Josh Daniels is apparently a big name. And I remember

662
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Speaker 2: when I was asked what do I think of Josh

663
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Speaker 2: McDaniels coming to the Raiders, and said, well, if he's

664
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Speaker 2: bringing Belichick and Brady with him, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 3: What a joke.

666
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Speaker 2: He was complete joke. They're paying him ten million. He

667
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Speaker 2: exit Antonio Pierce, who I thought did a credible job.

668
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: They played hard for him, they played hard, but the

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Speaker 2: impatience and again big name hunting.

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, which, if I'm being honest, is it okay?

671
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Speaker 2: I'm okay without higher But Pete Carroll handpicked Chip Kelly,

672
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Speaker 2: handpicked Gino Smith. Wah wah wah wah wah. And I

673
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Speaker 2: like Aston Genty, but I don't think he was worthy

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Speaker 2: of being a top five pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Pete Carroll's gone. So is it a good job

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Speaker 3: or a bad job.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what the people say, and because

678
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Speaker 2: the Raiders are so polarizing, I'm expecting answers all over

679
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Speaker 2: the place. Now the number two topic. You heard my

680
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Speaker 2: commentary on Caleb Williams. I've done it about faith. I

681
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 2: think he's special. He's winning games, he's doing he's making

682
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Speaker 2: throws out the quarterbacks can't make. He loves pressure, he's

683
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: not afraid of the big moment. And the Bears are

684
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Speaker 2: essentially the same team they were last year they had

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson.

686
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Speaker 3: He's adapted.

687
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Speaker 2: What Ben Johnson has been able to do is is

688
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Speaker 2: very much harness Caleb Williams's strengths while teaching him to

689
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Speaker 2: operate more with instructor in the pocket, but not putting

690
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Speaker 2: a leash on him. He's very reminiscent of John Elway. Yes, yes,

691
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Speaker 2: that John Elway. Now he's got to still do it.

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Speaker 2: Ol Way went to what five super Bowls, won two,

693
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Speaker 2: and he's very reminiscent of Patrick Mahomes. Guys who can

694
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Speaker 2: operate in the pocket, but they can operate off schedule too,

695
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: and they can do things to confound teams, and you

696
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: start to get the Bears a better defense.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know I'm doing it about face on

698
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. They're gonna get another.

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Speaker 2: Home game next week, so it begs the question, let's

700
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Speaker 2: have a little whimsical fun here tonight. Who wins the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl first, Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson. Yeah, Caleb

702
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Speaker 2: Williams or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Not on everything.

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Speaker 2: Jackson's going to win one. So I'm gonna go with Caleb.

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Speaker 2: But I want to hear what you got to say.

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Speaker 2: You heard me last week? What was gonna happen Monday night?

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Speaker 2: That's a de facto playoff game. I'm not gonna blame

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Speaker 2: it all on Jackson. But did they lose? Now, you

709
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Speaker 2: got to by the way, I like Lamar Jackson, Okay,

710
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Speaker 2: but I keep it real. I can hold two thoughts. Concurrently,

711
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Speaker 2: I defended the hell out of him coming out of Louisville.

712
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Speaker 2: I thought he was outstanding. I thought he was a

713
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Speaker 2: far better pocket passer than people gave him credit for.

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Speaker 2: And when he got on the field against much tougher

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Speaker 2: SEC teams back then, he did just great. And I

716
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Speaker 2: think he's had a good career and he's been an MVP,

717
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Speaker 2: but he's three and.

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Speaker 3: Five in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Last Monday was a de facto Sunday Night was a

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Speaker 2: de facto playoff game. Once again, Okay, I don't care

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Speaker 2: they got beat. He missed a wide open guy towards

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Speaker 2: the end of the game. He made a lot of

723
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Speaker 2: good plays, but he didn't make that one extra play

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Speaker 2: that Kayleb made when he made that throw to DJ Moore.

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Speaker 3: You can't miss that throw.

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Speaker 2: He's three and five in the playoffs, ten touchdowns, seven

727
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Speaker 2: interceptions to.

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Speaker 3: Complete.

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Speaker 2: It's about fifty five percent of his passes, which is

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Speaker 2: not good in sixty eight quarterback rating. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson will win a Super Bowl. No, I could

732
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Speaker 2: easily be proven wrong or not. So question number two,

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Speaker 2: who will win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: First?

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson? So question number one? The Raiders.

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Speaker 2: They got the number one pick, one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: in salary cap space. You get to live in Vegas

738
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Speaker 2: if you resurrect this iconic franchise, your Walk on Water.

739
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, they're paying six five ex coaches

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Speaker 2: of fifty million dollars, So you don't know what Mark

741
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Speaker 2: Davis is going to you. Just that kind of instability

742
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Speaker 2: is going to turn people off. And you don't have

743
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Speaker 2: a quarterback yet. But I think it's a good job,

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Speaker 2: for the right opportunity, for the right person. Number two,

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Speaker 2: who's going to win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: First? Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: The third one and very similar to the question I

748
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Speaker 2: had about Ervian Meyer last week. I don't want you

749
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Speaker 2: to overthink it the name this week that I want

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Speaker 2: to get your impression, your image, your thoughts, what you think.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what you think is Steven A Smith.

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Speaker 3: Steven A Smith, and I want you to do it

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Speaker 3: in three words or less. It'll be the third question.

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Speaker 3: Three words are less, so you put the spotlight on me.

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Speaker 3: What do I think it's Steven A. Smith.

756
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Speaker 2: He's prominent, he's accomplished, he's overexposed. He's on everything now.

757
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: He's not just sports, he's commenting on international events. And

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Speaker 2: you never hear me say one bad thing about Steven A.

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Speaker 3: Smith. No one likes a name dropper, but I'm doing it.

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00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving two thousand and five, we're doing the postgame show

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Speaker 2: at Fishbones and Detroit. We had dinner Rob Parker and

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Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith or their friends and our other postgame host,

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Speaker 2: Mark Wilson.

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Speaker 3: We had dinner at Fishbones. I've crossed Steven A. Smith's

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Speaker 3: pass multiple times here in fights in Vegas, NBA games.

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00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: He's a very nice guy, he really is.

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Speaker 2: You may and I like them now on tea or

768
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Speaker 2: you may like them. There's a reason they're paying one

769
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. So Steve and a Smith three words

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Speaker 2: or less. That's our third topic. Our number two topic,

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Speaker 2: who's going to win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: First?

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, b Lamar Jackson. And the number one topic,

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Speaker 2: The Raiders. Of the eight openings. You tell me is

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Speaker 2: the Raiders job a good job based on the reasons

776
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Speaker 2: I gave or a bad job based on the situation.

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Speaker 2: You'll be stepping into eight seven, seven ninety nine on

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Speaker 2: Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six six three sixty

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Speaker 2: nine sabmd N Hour and the Bernie fraddle Show, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It's right you heard the man. Bernie Fraddles

781
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Speaker 2: show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddick.

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Speaker 2: We're comedy line from the Fox Sports Radio compound here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Take you up to three in Pacific

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Speaker 2: sixty am Eastern. Just getting started. Phone lines are jam packed.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to Allia ever so quickly. Topic one,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders, Is it a good job? It's one of

787
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Speaker 2: the openings. Yeah, they're paying five coaches fifth demillion bucks

788
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: next year. A lot of uncertainty that you got the

789
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Speaker 2: number one pick one hundred million dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 3: You get to live in Vegas, and if.

791
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Speaker 2: You become the guy who resurrects these formerly iconic franchise,

792
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Speaker 2: you'll walk on water. Number two, number two. Who wins

793
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl first? Kayleb Williams or Lamar Jackson? Number three?

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Speaker 2: Just describe him in three words like we did last

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Speaker 2: week with Derman Meyer. This time we're gonna do it

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Speaker 2: with Stephen A.

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Speaker 3: Smith.

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Speaker 2: My three words prominent, accomplished, overexposed. It's time for the

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Speaker 2: midnight hour. All right, without further ado, let's light this candle.

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Speaker 2: We go to Hollering James starting us off tonight.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, earlier guys, I gotta source the road.

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Speaker 3: Do the best you can.

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Speaker 6: I've got some early pits for you, I said a

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Speaker 6: mar jetson work selling do with Minnesota. I see right,

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Speaker 6: Ryan Florrest going to the US.

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Speaker 2: That that would be an interesting hire. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Hollering James, take care of that throat, buddy.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I don't think Brian Flores is coming

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Speaker 2: here is my moles.

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Speaker 3: Tell me they're gonna hire an offensive guy.

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Speaker 2: They want an offensive guy to come coach to the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: and and uh, that would be a hell of a move.

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Speaker 2: With Lamar Jackson left season. Now that John Harbaugh's gun,

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Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jackson stays.

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Speaker 3: Kyle in Vegas. Welcome in, Kyle. What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 13: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Bernie?

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Speaker 13: First off, let's go Bears bear downs all day every day.

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Speaker 3: So another home game next week?

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Speaker 13: Many listening really quick before I'll jump in serious topics.

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Speaker 13: First off, the Bears are over exceeding expectations right now.

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Speaker 13: Their gameplay is not what you want ideally, especially this

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Speaker 13: late in the season and this early in the playoffs. However,

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Speaker 13: with the over eving style play that they're doing lately,

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Speaker 13: it's really beneficial to their game.

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Speaker 14: Let's hope they continue that. Now.

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Speaker 13: The Raiders, I don't care who they are because and

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Speaker 13: can you.

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Speaker 3: Hear me, Bernie? Yeah, I just do you think it's

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Speaker 3: a good job.

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Speaker 13: It's not for me personally. I don't see it. You

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Speaker 13: have the offensive roster is the defense that lacks for me,

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Speaker 13: I would not take it. And even if they did

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Speaker 13: hire McCarthy or something like that. Number two, Caleb Williams

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Speaker 13: obviously is going to again, overachieve, especially this early if

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Speaker 13: he's looking this good. And then lastly, three words to

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Speaker 13: describe sas is loud, hyperbolic, and passionate.

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Speaker 2: All right, pretty good stuff there, Kyle. Yeah, listen, the

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Speaker 2: Bears are quite a story. I get my I changed

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Speaker 2: my mind. Caleb Williams is getting it done.

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Speaker 3: Kyle. Always appreciate you.

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Speaker 13: Man, you too, Man, I love you, I love the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Kyle. Hope to call you. Hope you

845
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Speaker 3: back next week.

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Speaker 2: Jim bat And third again Jim in Massachusetts. Looking forward

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Speaker 2: to your thoughts on these three topics.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Bernie, as far as the Raiders go, I hope

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Speaker 4: they The next coach they hire will be before the

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Speaker 4: draft so he can have some input.

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Speaker 3: Of what, of course that will happen. That will happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, whether they take the number one pick or

853
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Speaker 4: trade it. And they got good cap space, I think

854
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Speaker 4: they should just trade it and get some more bodies.

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Speaker 3: They have good jobs.

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Speaker 2: From my vantage point, you take over, there's nowhere to

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Speaker 2: go but up, and I gave all the you know.

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Speaker 2: But but then again, it's such a mercurial, oddball situation

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Speaker 2: with Mark Davis. There's a reason they're paying five coaches

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Speaker 2: fifty million bucks next year even though none of work

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Speaker 2: here anymore.

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Speaker 4: You follow me, Yeah, I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 15: Hey.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Giants fan, Once a giant, always a giant.

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Speaker 4: But I love the rate is growing up. Snake Stable,

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Speaker 4: Otis Sistrunk, all those guys on offensive defense, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's the mistique about them, and no, they got to

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Speaker 4: get there. I hope they get back to the top

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Speaker 4: to be a premier.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's a good job.

871
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think I'm gonna have. I think he's

872
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Speaker 4: gonna have plenty of guys to pick frohim. Caleb Williams

873
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Speaker 4: will probably win a Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson's body has

874
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Speaker 4: passed him by. I think his mind still shot. But

875
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Speaker 4: you know, when you're a running quarterback, the oldie get

876
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, those old injuries they started creeping up on you,

877
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Speaker 4: you know, and stuff like that. Your mind works faster

878
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Speaker 4: than your body. So I think his time is coming

879
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: gone as far as getting to the big one. But

880
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Speaker 4: I think Caleb Williams does a good shot at doing one.

881
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Speaker 4: Steven al Smith he's a schmuck, all right. I can't

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: stand that guy. He thinks he's more than what he is.

883
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 4: They investigated his basketball career and these are the pundits

884
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: on his own site can't stand him. So, you know,

885
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: he got into the politics stuff and everything else. But

886
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: he started out and just kept the sports. It was good.

887
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: We branched out to everything else. And you know, to him,

888
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: it's all about you know, the pocket, which should be

889
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: to all of us, but to him especially. I mean,

890
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 4: he got bagged in a lot of lies and stuff,

891
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: you know, in his past and everything with his own crew,

892
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: with his own people at do Sports. So you know,

893
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Speaker 4: I just can't stand the guy. But Bernie, I do

894
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 4: have one question for you. Okay, I didn't watch an

895
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: NBA games. Are the NBA officials wearing advertisement on this shirts?

896
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: Don't they have a hotel thing? Like?

897
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Speaker 2: Well, I know, I know, I know that many of

898
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: the NBA teams have advertising on their uniforms.

899
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Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about the rest.

900
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have to pay closer attention, uh Jim, because.

901
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Speaker 4: No, it's in red. I think it's the hotel chain.

902
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: But it's on the front of the shirt, you know,

903
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: right undereath the logo, and then it's like on the back,

904
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Speaker 4: like the low back where you can and if that's true, Bernie,

905
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: that is just disgusting. You know, it's I just if

906
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: it's true.

907
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 14: I just know.

908
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.

909
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: So here it is apparently yes, NBA referees. Now we're

910
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: advertising patches for Emirates Airlines.

911
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: They've been doing it for about a year. I guess

912
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: it started the air game, all right.

913
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's just isn't that an offshore airlines?

914
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

915
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: Isn't that Middle East?

916
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 7: Oh?

917
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: My god?

918
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 4: You know what, I'll use language.

919
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: You know, oftentimes they'll take that. They'll they'll take the check. Jim.

920
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate you man as always. I'll never forget when

921
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: doctor Jerry Buss a guy and got to know a

922
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: little bit.

923
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: Uh when I was an intern at the.

924
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Speaker 2: Forum when they became the Great Western Forum of nineteen

925
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Speaker 2: eighty eight. People gave him a hard time and he

926
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Speaker 2: told Stude Ahan they offered him twenty million dollars, which

927
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: is a pittance. Now would they pay for Damon Arena?

928
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: He said, Stu, let me ask you a question. If

929
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: someone called you up and said, Stu, I'll give you

930
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars if you just let me call you

931
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: Bob instead of Stune hands shooting the hand shoot his

932
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: head and said, yeah, I know, I know what you mean.

933
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Speaker 2: So yeah, to your point, Jim, forget man, the purity

934
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Speaker 2: has gone long gone. It's all about the It's all

935
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Speaker 2: about the Benjamins. Tyler and Hartford joins us. Welcome in, Tyler, Hey,

936
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: how you doing? Love the show Man?

937
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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 10: Rauh so. Yeah.

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Speaker 16: As someone who can't even get a job throwing away garbage,

940
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Speaker 16: the Raiders job is obviously great. It's one of thirty two.

941
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Speaker 16: I'm surprised you not that high on Mendoza though, Why

942
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Speaker 16: would you want to trade that pick? He's going to

943
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Speaker 16: be a good quarterback, Like.

944
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hold hold that thought, Hold on that thought. He's

945
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Speaker 2: going to be an outstanding quarterback. I love the guy

946
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Speaker 2: that I'm qualified to evaluate this. I don't want him

947
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Speaker 2: stuck here. His first three years will be pure hell.

948
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing here. I want the

949
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: kid to go somewhere, you know. Listen, John Elway didn't

950
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: want his dad, didn't want him to go to Indianapolis.

951
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: It worked out. Archie Manny didn't want Elid to go

952
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Speaker 2: to San Diego.

953
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: It worked out. I just want the poor kid to

954
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: come here, man. I love the guy so I'm glad

955
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: you brought that up, which allowed me to clarify it.

956
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: Tyler A fair enough.

957
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 16: I didn't hear you say that, and I respect that

958
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 16: You're Indian would know it, You would know it better

959
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 16: than most. But he has God on his side, though,

960
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 16: so you know he should win because of that.

961
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps a lot, But it helps if you've

962
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: got guys.

963
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: You can block and tackle too. They don't. Yeah, I

964
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Speaker 3: love I love Fernana Mendoza everything about him. He's elite.

965
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Speaker 16: Maybe the guy could rub off by proxy with you

966
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 16: with his teammates. But the second question, Caleb Williams will

967
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 16: win the Super Bowl before Lamar for so many reasons.

968
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Speaker 16: Not because of Caleb, because of because of Ben Johnson,

969
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 16: because they actually probably have a harder division than Baltimore.

970
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 16: But Baltimore doesn't even have a coach right now, so

971
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 16: Baltimore's kind of influx. Chicago should win the Super Bowl.

972
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Speaker 16: If if either one of them win, it would be Chicago.

973
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 16: I would think, Yeah, you won't last.

974
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go ahead. The last question is three words,

975
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: Steven A.

976
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Speaker 16: Smith, Right, I got you real quick though. Before the

977
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Speaker 16: last question, the reason why I called in the first place,

978
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 16: why do you have Paris Hilton on a commercial, every

979
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 16: commercial selling her her facial products. I'm not sure why

980
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 16: she's on the commercial. I don't know if you guys

981
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Speaker 16: know that, but.

982
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: Like I don't even a where of that. I forgive me,

983
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 2: I I you don't.

984
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 16: It's crazy. I guarantee all your listeners are wondering the

985
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 16: same things.

986
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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

987
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 16: Every every three seconds is Paris Hilton talking herself? Anyways?

988
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 16: Last question, Stephen A. Smith three words, jumped the shark,

989
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 16: Thanks lot, having me interesting.

990
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Speaker 3: Hey, don't be a stranger, chiling, good stuff. Mark and

991
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Speaker 3: Maryland joined. Just welcome in Mark, Hi, Bernie, how you

992
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: doing good?

993
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 7: You?

994
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 10: Happy New Year to you. I'm great, buddy, You're the best.

995
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 10: The rates job is a great job, Mendoza. Uh to

996
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 10: be the first pick?

997
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 14: Uh.

998
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 10: The only thing that really separates most teams well, first

999
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 10: of all, the NFL is the League of parody. You

1000
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 10: could go from last place to first place of the year. Mendoza.

1001
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 10: I love him. I love his physical tools, but I'm

1002
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 10: most impressed with his intelligence. He's a very intelligent guy.

1003
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 10: And that's a matter late exactly, and that always translates

1004
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 10: well in the NFL. Of the second topic was help

1005
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 10: me out, Bernie. What was the second topic?

1006
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Speaker 2: The second topic was who will win the Super Bowl first,

1007
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson.

1008
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, I don't like the question, Bernie. You know,

1009
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 10: I think it's insulting to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is

1010
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 10: a is a transformative individual. He's won two MVPs. He

1011
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 10: can't help it if the kicker got to coach fire

1012
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 10: Mark Andrew Trump to pass. He done everything that you

1013
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 10: could ask.

1014
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but eventually those things even out. My man, he

1015
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: said eight chance. He's three to five in the playoffs,

1016
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: ten touchdowns, seven interceptions to fumbles. He's not performed well.

1017
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that you're sticking up for him.

1018
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: And I could be wrong.

1019
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: You may say not, Bernie, Lamar Jackson will win one

1020
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: before Caleb. You wait and see. I wouldn't bet my

1021
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: bottom dollar on it. But this is why we have

1022
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: this segment, because if we all agree, then only what

1023
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: head's doing the thinking and the most boring conversations are

1024
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: when everybody does agree. So I appreciate your alternative viewpoint there.

1025
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 10: Okay, I'm just gonna say this. The last two years

1026
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 10: his players let him down. Okay, that was a chip

1027
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 10: shot or Andrews should have had that, we wouldn't even

1028
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 10: be having this conversation. So the last two, I mean,

1029
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 10: football is a team game. And as far as the

1030
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 10: third topic, it might have.

1031
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: Helped if they didn't start out one in five too.

1032
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's true, that's true.

1033
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: I wish I go ahead. Could I love this conversation.

1034
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 10: I love to put all of that on the mar

1035
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 10: I don't think anybody has this guy has been MVP twice.

1036
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 17: What is it not?

1037
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 10: I mean Coln you know, And as far as h

1038
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 10: what was the third topic, I want to say this,

1039
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 10: I got it, I got it. I want to say

1040
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 10: this about Caleb. You know what, I think a better

1041
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 10: question would have been in that draft class because Caleb

1042
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 10: and Drake may have had super second years.

1043
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 14: Daniels fell off.

1044
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 10: Okay, I think a better question is who is going

1045
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 10: to be the better quarterback out of those three?

1046
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 14: Now?

1047
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 10: You know, I really like it's.

1048
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: Subjectives Janders fan.

1049
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 10: I'm a Commander's fan, so I'm still going with Daniels,

1050
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 10: but Caleb and Drake may, I don't know. It's a

1051
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 10: fair discussion. Who's going to turn out and time will

1052
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 10: tell and as far as Steven A. Smith, he's on

1053
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 10: top of the hill. I don't you know all he's

1054
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 10: a bombasta guy. I mean he's he took the Muhammad

1055
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 10: Ali type of uh of personality. You hate me, but

1056
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 10: you're still viewing he's on top. I think he's a

1057
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 10: transformative personality. Okay, whether you hate him or you don't,

1058
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 10: you still watch him. And that's why he got one

1059
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 10: hundred million.

1060
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, the opposite of love is

1062
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: not hated, it's indifference. And I like Steven A. Smith,

1063
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: but he is polarizing. And I got to recuse myself

1064
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: because in two thousand and five, over Thanksgiving weekend, we

1065
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: had dinner with my him, Rob Parker, myself, and Mark Wilson.

1066
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Speaker 2: So hey, don't be a stranger, Mark tay what you

1067
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: call it. Next week, you give me your opinion on

1068
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: who you think will be the best of those three quarterbacks.

1069
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: But if you don't want a Super Bowl, Eli Manning's

1070
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: one two of me, he can't get no damn respect.

1071
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Speaker 2: All right, excellent call. Listen, We've got Philippi and Kentucky

1072
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Speaker 2: and Andre in Massachusetts. You guys are up next. Please

1073
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Speaker 2: be patient. I'm going to get to all of you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle, coming your life from Las Vegas. Fox

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Speaker 2: to Felipe in Kentucky. Felipe, thanks for your patients. You

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00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: are up next, Felipe in Kentucky.

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00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: Are you there? Hey, we'll going on, Bernie, how are

1086
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: you welcome in? Thanks for your patience.

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00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 18: All right, Well, so, first of all, with the Raider job,

1088
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 18: I think it's a great job. You know, obviously it's

1089
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 18: one of thirty two in the world. You know, Raiders

1090
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 18: have the number one pick. If they really like Mendoza

1091
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 18: and they think that's their future quarterback, then they obviously

1092
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 18: you know, they can draft them and no one's going

1093
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 18: a second get them. And if not, if they deem

1094
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 18: there that's not their quarterback for the future, then they

1095
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 18: can obviously look to trade the pick.

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00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, I think I think it's a good job.

1097
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: Nowhere to go.

1098
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: But up all the reasons I gave, all Right, your thoughts,

1099
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Who's gonna win a Super Bowl first? Caleb or Lamar Jackson?

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00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 18: I mean, at this point, I'll give it to Caleb

1101
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 18: just because he's younger and he's only getting started. I

1102
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 18: mean compared to Lamar where you know, although he's only

1103
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 18: twenty nine, Yeah, pocket patcher. You know, he's more of

1104
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 18: a running quarterback, and you know, the first thing that

1105
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 18: gold is the legs, and once that goes, I mean,

1106
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 18: he hasn't really proven that he can win by staying

1107
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 18: in the pocket, and he hasn't won a big game

1108
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 18: when it really counts.

1109
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 10: So I just got to give.

1110
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 14: It a Caleb.

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00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I could have said it better myself.

1112
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: He checked every boxer Felipe. All right, Finally, steven A.

1113
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: Smith. Your thoughts on Steven A. Smith?

1114
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 18: Stephen A. I used to like him when I used

1115
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 18: to watch the Best Dance Sports Show. But I mean,

1116
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 18: I think right now, just three words to describe the

1117
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 18: guy as playing both sides.

1118
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, Felipe, excellent, excellent stuff appreciate you man.

1119
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: Don't be a stranger now.

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00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: Uh, Andre in Massachusetts? Where you been there, my man?

1121
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back in.

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00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 19: Thank you so much, Bernie, it's good to good to

1123
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 19: be with you.

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00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: Listen.

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00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 19: I do think the Raiders job the job for the

1126
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 19: for the aforementioned reasons. They do have the number one

1127
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 19: pick and a lot of cat space. I also have

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 19: to point to Tom Brady as hopefully bringing a little

1129
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 19: bit more stability and clarity in their front offs in

1130
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 19: terms of what they're doing going forward. I was sad

1131
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 19: to see that Pete Carroll got the one year and

1132
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 19: got the boot. Did hear some rumblings about him not

1133
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 19: being able to bring in all of his people? There

1134
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 19: there being some parameters, uh, you know, inconsistent with what

1135
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 19: he's used to. But it's a good job. There's money,

1136
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 19: there's draft picks. They can move forward.

1137
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a great opportunity for the

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00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: right guy. D so, uh, Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson

1139
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: who wins the Super Bowl first, got to.

1140
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 19: Go Caleb Williams, the young upstart, and I'm not just

1141
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 19: going with the new kid on the block. The change

1142
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 19: of the guard in Baltimore, who was going to be

1143
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 19: the next person to come behind Harbaugh that can unlock Lambar,

1144
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 19: you know, like, who's the next visionary? You know, I

1145
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 19: didn't agree, you know, when you get rid of a

1146
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 19: coach immediately after an emotional game like that. But but

1147
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 19: who's the next coach in waiting? Are they going to

1148
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 19: get Marcus Freeman to come in or is it just

1149
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 19: going to be a Lamar Sinkle fan It's just going

1150
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 19: to be a Lamar accolade that somebody that he likes,

1151
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 19: one of his buddies. How did that work out in

1152
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 19: Milwaukee when they got rid of coach budd and brought

1153
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 19: in Giannie's hand pick guy and got in like thirty

1154
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 19: years excuse me, thirty games into that season and Giannie

1155
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 19: was unhappy again. Then they had to bring in the fixer,

1156
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 19: Doc Rivers, who we know is not taking anybody to

1157
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 19: a championship, but just is a good manager of a team.

1158
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 19: And Milwaukee has been training in the wrong direction ever since.

1159
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 19: So the connection back to Baltimore is, you know, if

1160
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 19: you don't have.

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Speaker 2: To be I don't know if Steven Shotti is going

1162
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: to give Lamar Jackson input, Okay, but I do know this.

1163
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jackson had had it with John Harbaugh

1164
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: and I intimated this last week. I think they both

1165
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: probably need to go you're not gonna You're not gonna

1166
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. You're just not gonna do it.

1167
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: Their windows passed and I'll eat Curl if he ever

1168
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: does it. But anyway, final thing, Andre steven A Smith's

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

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Speaker 18: Steve A.

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 19: Smith is hard working, Steven A. Smith is dynamics. Uh,

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Speaker 19: And Stephen A. Smith at the present moment is over

1173
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 19: leveraged in terms of he has his hands and a

1174
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 19: number of different pots.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 19: Maybe you know he wants it to branch out. But

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Speaker 19: again the political climate that we're in right now and

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00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 19: and that kind of that he's got his hands in,

1179
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 19: which is but that's a whole different ball of wax

1180
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 19: and the sports takes and what makes the team and

1181
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 19: so on for U. So I think he's actually trying

1182
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 19: to figure out, you know, there seems to be a

1183
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 19: little what he's doing after ESPN, So he's kind of

1184
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 19: leaning more into the politics and the culture wars. But

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01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 19: that's not that that that that's not compatible with our

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 19: sports conversation, which is what more brings people together. Whereas

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01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 19: we know that when you get into the politics that's

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01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 19: taking us in different directions. He's over leverage as well

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Speaker 19: as being Thank.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot and I appreciate it. Don't be a

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01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: stranger now, Poppy in San Diego?

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01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: What's up?

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 20: Many Burne Ah, Bernando Mendoza. I think you know on

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 20: the Raider job, that's.

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 10: A sexy job.

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Speaker 20: You know, you know why not the Raiders are going

1197
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 20: to get Fernando Mendoza. You know Tom Brady and who

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 20: wouldn't want to go there? You know, like these Raiders?

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Speaker 20: Can somebody bring back the old Raiders when they were feared,

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01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 20: whether they had you know, Al Davis, Don Madam.

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01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: Well, so that I agree with you. You hit my

1202
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: point exactly. They thought Gruden could do it. No, didn't

1203
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: give Pierce a chance. McDaniels, forget it. Stupid Pete Carroll

1204
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: didn't work out, and then they wouldn't give Bisacia.

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: So I think weren't agree. You just nailed it. You

1206
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: bring that back. You walk on water, all right.

1207
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 2: The second question, Poppy, who's gonna win the Super Bowl first?

1208
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson?

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 20: Well, look both great, both great quarterbacks. If you guys

1210
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 20: do fantasy football right, Lamar Jackson mobile Caleb Williams in

1211
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 20: the pocket.

1212
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 13: But I'm gonna have to go.

1213
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 20: With Caleb Williams. You know, I you know, I was

1214
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 20: doubting him last year. I pulled his rookie card, you know,

1215
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 20: on the trading cards, and I went to a sports

1216
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 20: trading card, long story show, Bernie, and just got this.

1217
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 20: You should create Caleb Williams.

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 14: He told me that last year.

1219
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 20: I'm like, Wow, he's playing amazing, he's bringing the trunk,

1220
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 20: he's looking like a real leader.

1221
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: A lot of people were.

1222
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 20: Back to them and I'm like, whoa, you put me wrong.

1223
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 20: I think he'll get a super Bowl.

1224
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was his first playoff win and he's got

1225
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: that it factor.

1226
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: I truly believe it. Finally, Steven A. Smith three words, oh,

1227
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 3: three words on that.

1228
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 20: I'll say this, Bernie, you madam, hard worker, umble, and

1229
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 20: he's an actor, That's what I.

1230
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're not wrong though.

1231
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: I like him, but he's not everybody's cup of tea.

1232
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Poppy, Appreciate you man. Enjoy your Sunday.

1233
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: Martin at Orange. How are you Martin?

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 8: Hello, Bernie, Greetings and salutations. This raider job would probably

1235
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 8: be a good job. For a first time coach, for

1236
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 8: a coach who knows what he's doing. No, he doesn't

1237
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 8: want to go to the Raiders. He doesn't want to

1238
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 8: put up with what's going on over there. Just look

1239
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 8: at the list of coaches they've had. A coach at

1240
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 8: the Games, passed him, a cuppy boy, a high school

1241
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 8: coach who took a national power like long Beat pooning

1242
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 8: out of the playoffs, and then grew to a guy

1243
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 8: who didn't even want to give up his professorship at

1244
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 8: USC so he can be a full time coach with

1245
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 8: the Raiders. This this organization.

1246
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 14: Is ran wrong.

1247
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 8: And then they're getting in Brady and his little Spike

1248
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 8: Tech crew. I don't think that's gonna help him any

1249
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 8: So if I was a coach, I think there's more

1250
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 8: appealing jobs than the Raiders. But I will agree with you,

1251
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 8: Bernie that if there is a coach that could turn

1252
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 8: this organization around, it would be a great thing for

1253
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 8: the NFL.

1254
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 7: Yes.

1255
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 8: Second, yeah, yeah, cayleb and Lamar Jackson. I'm gonna go

1256
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 8: out on the limb here and I'm gonna say it's

1257
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 8: a tie because I don't think neither of them will

1258
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 8: win the Super Bowl. I think one is getting past

1259
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 8: his prime and he's gonna be dealing with a new coach,

1260
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 8: and I think one is gonna fall short, and when

1261
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 8: his new contract comes up, I'm thinking his coach is

1262
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 8: gonna want to replace him. So I'm gonna say none

1263
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 8: of them are gonna win a super Bowl.

1264
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: Steven Asmid three words.

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01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 8: I'll be real quick with this because I used to

1266
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 8: like Stephen A. He's got a little too big for me,

1267
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 8: and I guess when that happens, you know, just like

1268
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 8: a rapper. I always love his first two albums, but

1269
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 8: when they start talking about all the stuff they have,

1270
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 8: I needs interest. But I think he's loud, he's fildered,

1271
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 8: and he's polarizing. But he's also a great guy to

1272
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 8: have on the TV on the radio. But not as

1273
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 8: great as you. Bernie.

1274
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 10: I love you, man.

1275
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 8: You have a good night.

1276
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: Heck, mar I appreciate you. Man. You on the five.

1277
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: I knew eventually you would return, much like MacArthur.

1278
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: I knew you would record you.

1279
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I don't have a pipe in my mouth

1280
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 12: right now, though.

1281
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 7: You know how you doing?

1282
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 3: Bernie doing well? Hugh?

1283
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 4: Okay, where do we begin?

1284
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: Well, we start with the Raiders. Do you believe, I mean,

1285
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: it's one of eight openings. Do you believe it's a

1286
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: good job.

1287
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 12: That has been so prime for somebody to just take

1288
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 12: it over and make it happen.

1289
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 4: But functional ownership won't let it happen. As a matter

1290
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: of fact, I find it pretty ironic that Al Davis, his.

1291
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 12: Son, fired Pete Carroll after one year, just like Al

1292
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 12: Davis fired Lane Kippen after one year. It's almost like

1293
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 12: you wanted to get Pete Carroll and let him just

1294
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 12: have one year inspired him to show to say like,

1295
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 12: why did you send this Lane Kiffin?

1296
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they fired Tom Telesco after one year too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so raise an issue, You raise an issue which is

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Speaker 3: the biggest copyat no one other than the the you know,

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Speaker 3: the broadcast team and the people.

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Speaker 2: Here on the radio that cheer them on, you know,

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: would not disagree that this is a dysfunctional franchise. However,

1302
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: if you are the one who restores, you know, so

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: go ahead. I think it'd be a great job, but

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01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: you have to it ain't the.

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Speaker 3: Purpose, you know.

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Speaker 12: Okay, you know what, I wouldn't mind seeing Harbaugh and

1307
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 12: see let him take a crack at it.

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: They don't want him. I'll tell you right now, he's

1309
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: not even un sure. I'll tell you what you Well,

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: I got you. Let's take advantage of this. I'll tell

1311
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: you right now. Kevin Stefanski is probably the guy they

1312
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: want the most. But they're gonna talk to Matt Naggie.

1313
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: They're going to talk to Clint Kubiak, the you' see

1314
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: in Seattle, and Davis Webb he's the Broncos passing game coordinator.

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Speaker 3: And Matt Nate.

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Speaker 21: I think I said advance Joseph. He's the only defensive guy.

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Speaker 21: I think you're going to see an offensive guy. Yeah,

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 21: I gonna see horrball here. I'd be shocked.

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01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 22: Go ahead, Hugh, Well, I'd want to tell the viewers

1320
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 22: that you're totally boots on the ground in Las Vegas

1321
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 22: for sure, if you.

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01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 12: Have you know, if you really know what's going on there.

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 12: Uh So my point really is, Okay Harbaugh or one

1324
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 12: of the others, Like let's see, let's see who that

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 12: person is.

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 7: Nobody knows who that person is.

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean like, if I was vying to be an

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Speaker 2: NFL head coach and you know the eight opportunities, the

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Speaker 2: Riders would be my first choice.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, it's not.

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: But but that's just you know, that's only my opinion, Hugh.

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Speaker 2: Second question, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, I.

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 12: Wouldn't want to go to the Raiders too, like, let

1335
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 12: me let me take a crack at it, you know.

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 4: So anyway, Okay, next one.

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, who will win the super Bowl first? Caleb Williams?

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Speaker 10: Okay, wow, I got to Okay, a couple of quick things.

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Speaker 12: Is it's kind of like, you know when you see

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 12: the graph when you say on a ESPN dot com

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 12: of a game and you see like.

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Speaker 4: The win probability.

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Speaker 22: Well, right now, of course, Kayla Williams has probably an

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 22: eighty to ninety percent probability over.

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 4: Lamar, but you just never know.

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Speaker 12: And so which leads me into my next comment. I

1347
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 12: don't understand the coronation of Kayla Williams after winning one

1348
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 12: playoff game. The post game show was so like like

1349
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 12: there's a king has a ride.

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Speaker 2: Well, but here's here's why, you h It's not just

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01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: the one game. They've been pulling a rabbit out of

1352
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: their hat now for seven weeks. So he's got that

1353
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: it factor and Ben Johnson has harnessed him. So the

1354
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: fact that they got to the playoffs. They were eleven

1355
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: and six, earned a home game, pulled this game out

1356
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: of there, took us. You are seeing the city.

1357
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: On the hill. Forming he may never get there, but

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it in a way that I haven't seen

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: in other quarterbacks, like I saw with John Elway and

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. Finally, Steven A. Smith, give me your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on him.

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Speaker 22: I have three words for him, So give me a

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 22: few more on Williams.

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Speaker 12: All right, So I'm a Kayleb Williams fan.

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 22: He hasn't done anything in the NFL yet, even though

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 22: he's pulled seven rabbits out of his ass or whatever

1367
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 22: this season.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 12: You haven't achieved anything yet. So that's that's what I'm saying.

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01:08:52,800 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 12: Azar as Stephen a presidential candidate, be.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, you appreciate you. Don't be a stranger, Hugh.

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01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: We got to find a slot for you.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

1374
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: And I appreciate your call. I think Steven A. Smith

1375
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: likes his one hundred million dollar contract. You won't run

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 2: for president. I just don't see that, and I would

1377
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: beg to differ, respectfully. When you win your first ever

1378
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 2: playoff game, you got to come back from down eighteen

1379
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: points against some tough odds.

1380
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: I think that is doing something.

1381
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: And Lamar's three and five in the playoffs, and anyway,

1382
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: you know where I'm going with that.

1383
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: I squeezing one more. Here, Alan in Saint Louis, Welcome

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: to Allen.

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 9: Well, good morning, Bernie, morning sir. It's great to be

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 9: back on the head.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, good to have you.

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 9: Oh you're still there.

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: Well, oh you're still there.

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01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Allen, I'm here, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 9: First of all, on the Raiders, I think the Raiders

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 9: can be a good job if you look at what

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Speaker 9: they have. First of all, they have some excellent, excellent

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01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 9: talent far as Jens and I just crossed me that day.

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 7: That's a thing.

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: They've got pieces, they got pieces, They've got draft choices.

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 9: My only problem is, you know, Mendoza is the flavor

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 9: of the month. Now you know it's it were me,

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 9: I would trade that pick because there are some great

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 9: quarterbacks coming out next year. We try to build this

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01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 9: offensive lineup and other pieces. Before I bring a quarterback

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 9: here where he would have they have to suffer for

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Speaker 9: his rookie season.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I feel. That's kind I love Mendoza,

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 2: but you can't. I covered the Lions for ten years

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: and they kept building from the periphery. They got to

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: block and tackle first and the rest of his details.

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: So we're really in agreement on that, Alan uh. And

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: we'll see what the Raiders end up doing with that

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: number one pick, but at least they have options who

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Speaker 2: wins the Super Bowl first, Caleb or Lamar.

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Speaker 9: And not only readied to have no more pick they got,

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 9: they've got salary cap space one hundred dollars. Yeah, so

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 9: you know, if the front of us can stay out

1416
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 9: of the old way, it would be a good job.

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 9: Now as far as Kayler Williams and Lamar and Jackson,

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 9: I'm gonna have to go with Caylen Williams just because

1419
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 9: of the youth, the talent around him and the coach.

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know Lamar and Jackson has had

1421
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 9: his problems in the playoffs, but right now, you know,

1422
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 9: I think I think Lamoy is banged up now and

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01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 9: I think that's going to be a problem. But you know,

1424
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 9: and I'm doing I totally disagree with the previous caller said,

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 9: Caylen Williams hasn't done anything. You're going they played a

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 9: one game playoff game and he won't it right.

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: It's just semantical saying, uh, you're you know, you're you're.

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01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Hitting some good points. And I think this is why

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01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: we have this. So we get a varying opinion starts

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01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: on stephen A. Smith, and I want to make sure

1431
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: you get to all the callers and your thoughts on

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01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: steven A.

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 9: And let's not forget all those comfort from behind victories

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 9: that Caleb willis responsible.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 9: I agree, Steve THEY Smith I called a loud, arrogant businessman.

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01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: Though interesting and you know what I used to you know.

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 9: You know, some days I love steven A. Smith and

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 9: other days, you know, I could just I could just

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 9: you know, just throw this TV out when it's a

1441
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 9: thousand dollars TVs. I'm not going to do that, you know,

1442
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 9: but I think you know, and you know, let's face it,

1443
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 9: and I'm going to throw a fourth word in there.

1444
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 9: He's smart, he knows what he's doing, and you know,

1445
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 9: and it's you know, he has good guests. He has

1446
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 9: good guests, and let's face it, steven A. Smith controls

1447
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 9: a lot what's going on at ESPN, and love him

1448
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 9: or hate him He's got the highest rated show on

1449
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 9: ESPN for about six or seven years in a row,

1450
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 9: and nowadays that's hard to do. If you look at

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 9: the other shows in the timeslot on other networks, they've

1452
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 9: all they all just changed over the years, trying to

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01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 9: put something that would either resemble that or at least

1454
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 9: taken away from.

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Speaker 7: The do it on it.

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 9: So I think stevehen is a good business man for

1457
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 9: the politics are concerned. On purpose, I've never watched him

1458
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 9: or listen to him do anything on politics because I

1459
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,440
Speaker 9: just want to know the Steven A. Smith, the sportsman,

1460
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 9: because I don't want any of eels to skew my

1461
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 9: views about him. Take care of Bernie. I glad, thanks back,

1462
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 9: and I won't be a stranger.

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: Good deal, good good stuff. Allan appreciate it all right.

1464
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: If we get Jimmy and Boston, Andrew and Bakersfield, Chat

1465
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: and Syracuse, Rick and Louisiana, where you are up next?

1466
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: Please hang tight. I want to remind everybody for the

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Speaker 2: best pregame show every weekend, be sure to tune into

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Speaker 2: app coming up. The midnight hour continues, Keep it locked

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox.

1477
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Speaker 1: Don't listen no Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Fratles Show, wrapping it

1479
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: up at the minn hour. Let's go back out to

1480
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: the phone lines. Jimmy and Boston, you are up next.

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for getting on, Bud.

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 23: Hey, good morning, Bruni.

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 17: Always have a pleasure.

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 23: First question I had was on the Ratus job. I

1485
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 23: mean yes, First, firstly, speaking existically, I would think places

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,520
Speaker 23: like Vegas and Miami, things like that would be ideal

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 23: jobs for anybody are players for free agents. But apparently

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 23: there's something inside that building that keeps sabotaging whoever goes

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 23: to take that job. So if I was at candidate,

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 23: I'd be very interested in Vegas. But I definitely talked

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 23: to the next coaches and say what is going on

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 23: over there?

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't bring up you just nailed it. You just

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: nailed both sides of the coin, and you did it

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 2: succinctly quickly. Uh Caleb Williams or Lamar Jackson wentz first.

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Speaker 23: I mean by default there has to be kalled every

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 23: Southern Caleb, because I think we've seen the best of

1498
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 23: Lamar Jackson. So I would love to hear who you

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 23: think to win for us, be between Williams and Drake May.

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 23: But in terms of uh Lamar Jackson, I think we've

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01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 23: seen the best of them. We still still gonna see

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 23: good stuff for them, but I just think we've seen

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 23: the best of them, so it's to be you know what,

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 23: that's a great Jimmy.

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 3: I hope you call back next week.

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: If if New England wins Sunday, that's gonna be a

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: question next week.

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Speaker 3: I'll credit you real quickly. Steven A. Smith in three

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 3: words or less?

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Speaker 23: Sure you know them behind it came, I don't on

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 23: the came of my persona.

1512
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 14: I say, don't dig.

1513
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 3: Them good stuff. Jimmy, wish we had more time. Andrew

1514
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: and Bakersfield, you're up next?

1515
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 14: What's up?

1516
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 7: Bernie?

1517
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: All right, Bud, I'm all right.

1518
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 24: First one was the Raiders. My fault on them. I

1519
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 24: picked you up around midnight, so I'm the be brief.

1520
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 24: My thought on the Raiders is any job as a

1521
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 24: coach in the NFL, I would think is a good thing,

1522
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 24: but you may need to be strong and resilient and

1523
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 24: change some stuff.

1524
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: I want to go but up, Yeah, Caleb Williams or

1525
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.

1526
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 24: Yeah I'm in the past, but I'd say maybe Lamar

1527
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 24: and then yeah stephen A. I would say, I'm gonna

1528
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 24: keep it positive, smart, funny, and resilient.

1529
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: Those accurate. All in all, three Andrew appreciated. Wish we

1530
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 2: had more time as well. My friend always appreciate you

1531
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: chat and Syracuse welcome in.

1532
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 17: Hey, Bernie, love the show. Thanks Matt listen. I know

1533
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 17: you're up against it, so I'll be quick. I think

1534
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 17: if the Raiders are a good job, all NFL jobs

1535
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 17: can be good jobs. You just need the right people

1536
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 17: in charge. I think that Jenji's the real deal. I

1537
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 17: think this Mendoza kid's going to be great, and if

1538
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 17: they could just get Kevin Stefanski to run the show there,

1539
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 17: three years from now, they'll be in the playoffs. And

1540
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 17: as far as Krayle Williams, I don't think he's I

1541
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 17: think he's ahead of the game as far as Lamar

1542
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 17: Jacks does.

1543
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 10: He's ten years younger.

1544
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 17: I mean, Lamar Jacks is gonna be thirty. That's when

1545
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 17: I started to slow down. It happens, it just does he.

1546
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: Remember, No, you bring up an excellent point. But remember

1547
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 2: John Elway under the league in eighty three, and he

1548
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: got to a Super Bowl in four years, but he

1549
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: didn't win one for fourteen. So you bring up an

1550
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: excellent point, and that's part of the factor.

1551
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: Stephen A.

1552
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 17: Smith Jet steven As Smiths the reason I called I'll

1553
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 17: give you two words, bully and fraudulent. I don't like

1554
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 17: the way that anyone says anything he doesn't like. And

1555
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 17: he comes right after him on his bully pulpit, like

1556
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 17: Lebron James their ladies. Example. I don't like bullies and

1557
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 17: I don't like frogs. I'll give you a quick example.

1558
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 17: Five or six years ago, playoff games coming up, big playoff.

1559
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 13: Game in Kansas City.

1560
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 14: He does a hit.

1561
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 17: I can't remember which network, but he says the Chiefs

1562
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 17: are gonna win because because lamart or because Chris Jones

1563
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 17: is a bad, bad man and Christians have been out

1564
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 17: for the season for three months.

1565
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he says those things have.

1566
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 23: Happened then, and he went out with the comm he

1567
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 23: said in Kareem Hunt he's a bad running back.

1568
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 17: He's gonna be in the end zone all day. He

1569
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 17: was also out for the season two months ago, and

1570
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 17: I said to myself, Okay, this guy's a fraud. How

1571
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 17: can you say these things he's not even preparing. Yeah.

1572
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 17: I lost all my respect for him that day. Man,

1573
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 17: I don't like boys.

1574
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 14: I don't like rots.

1575
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 17: Thanks Bernie, thank.

1576
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: You, appreciate it. And Rick in Louisiana, welcome back in Rick,

1577
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: take us.

1578
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 14: Over all right, thanks a lot.

1579
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 3: How are you Bernie good Man?

1580
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 14: Good good I want to start by saying that this week,

1581
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 14: when I heard about Horbow getting retired, I thought about

1582
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 14: you because you had him on your list yep for

1583
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 14: Black Sunday And yeah, wow, he's gone. As far as

1584
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 14: instantly going through your three things, I think Open is

1585
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 14: a good job. It can be challenged, but I think

1586
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 14: that with the right people in place, it'll be a

1587
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 14: good job. And I think there's room for it to

1588
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 14: somebody that you said, you use the word restore to

1589
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 14: restore the Raiders the back to where they used to be.

1590
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 14: So I think that's good if you can get the

1591
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 14: right person in there. Uh se Ma, I'm gonna.

1592
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 7: Go with.

1593
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 14: I'm one of I'm gonna go with Lamar, And I'm

1594
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 14: gonna say that. I think that when you when you

1595
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 14: get comfortable, too comfortable in a job, you have to

1596
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 14: make you have to at least look at yourself and say, hey,

1597
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 14: look I got to improve I did, I'm not here,

1598
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 14: I'm not there. And then I also think that you

1599
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 14: need the right coach to kind of help him, help

1600
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 14: him to be to not be as comfortable. I think

1601
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 14: that's important. You know a coach that will come in

1602
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 14: that can maybe pull out that m VP and him.

1603
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 14: Uh So, for those two reasons, I will say yeah

1604
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 14: quickly with the.

1605
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,440
Speaker 3: Just I'm up against it. Steven A. Smith three words?

1606
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:13,520
Speaker 14: Three words for him? I would say one, He's smart, strategic, provocative.

1607
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh those good good, excellent, Rick as usual. I wish

1608
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: we had more time.

1609
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: We got to pay some bills, but I want to

1610
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: thank all the callers, really really really good stuff tonight

1611
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: all across the board. Uh some solid back and forth

1612
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: disagreement heard some first time or some regulars really appreciate y'all,

1613
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: and you put some thought into these calls and and

1614
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: it makes uh, it makes the show a lot more lively.

1615
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: Coming up, we are going to switch to the NBA

1616
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: as usual. There's all kinds of news. Keep it locked.

1617
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1618
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: Keeps rolling right along again special thanks to all other

1619
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: men at our callers.

1620
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 3: Outstanding job. I'm Bernie Freddle.

1621
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: We're coming live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

1622
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Show keeps rolling along. Take after three

1623
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: m Pacific, six am Eastern. Let's turn the page, as

1624
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: we always do this time of week, one am Pacific,

1625
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: four am Eastern. We talk a little NBA with our

1626
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: NBA guru. It's that time, Mark Medina Medina Magic, our

1627
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA guru, also writer for Essentially Sports,

1628
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 2: very much as his finger on the pulse and Mark

1629
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: oftentimes I know which topics I want to talk about,

1630
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: but not necessarily in which order, and tonight is a

1631
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: perfect example of that, because we're going to be talking

1632
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: about an incident that took place fourteen days ago, yet

1633
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,879
Speaker 2: it's coming to light. I'm talking about the Dennis shrewder

1634
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic incident and if I could get just give

1635
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: me ten seconds to set the table, because I I've

1636
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: made fun of Dennis Shruder because five years ago he

1637
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 2: turned down eighty four million dollars with the Lakers to

1638
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 2: test free agency.

1639
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: You have sent in a one year, six million dollars

1640
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: deal with the Celtics. Never really lived that down. So

1641
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,520
Speaker 3: we're finding now that there was an incident between.

1642
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: Him and Luca, and according to one account, Luca called

1643
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: him a bitch on the court, and then according to

1644
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: another account, he made fun of the contract. But regardless,

1645
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: they'd exchanged words and then quote Schroeder confronted an attempted

1646
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: to strike doncons in the hallway forty minutes after the game.

1647
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: Can you fill in the blanks in what we don't

1648
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: know about this other than we know he's not even

1649
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: suspended three games.

1650
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 15: No, I think you laid it out pretty perfectly that,

1651
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 15: like you, Luka, donc Joe brought up his contract as

1652
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 15: a punchline. Dennis Schroder did not take kindly to that,

1653
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 15: and then out to the game, he sought him out

1654
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 15: and exchanged words and so much confronted him near the

1655
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 15: arena hallway that security had to get involved, and the

1656
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 15: NBA doesn't obviously take kindly to that, so he suspended

1657
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 15: for three games. I think another ironic part is this

1658
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 15: is in the first time that you know, the the

1659
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 15: hallway at Crypto dot Com Arena has been used as

1660
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 15: a possible fight. You may recall, yeah, Rick Fox and

1661
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 15: Doug Christie, there was a pseudo fake fight when you

1662
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 15: know Chris Paul was facing his former team with the

1663
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 15: Clippers when he was with the Houston Rockets, that they're

1664
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 15: trying to get into the Clippers locker room using a

1665
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 15: different backdoor tunnel entrance that Chris Paul knew about. I

1666
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 15: remember this never happened, but you know Chris Chris Cayman

1667
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 15: did not like that Derek Fisher when he was with

1668
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 15: the Lakers, was right into his picture really hard, and

1669
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 15: he challenged him to fight. Now, that actually never happened,

1670
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 15: but you know, this has become a home of a

1671
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 15: potential fighting circus, even when there's not even boxing matches.

1672
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 15: So it's wild.

1673
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: There's kind of another angle to this we're finding.

1674
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 22: Uh.

1675
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 3: I guess Luca is just one of the all time

1676
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 3: trash talkers. Now.

1677
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 15: I think he's a long time listener to that Berdie

1678
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 15: Fratis show. If he's using your punch lines.

1679
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: Perhaps he should be, Perhaps he should be.

1680
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: But here's where I'm going with this because when I

1681
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: was I was an intern at the Forum, and I

1682
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: remember back in the day there were real fights. Okay,

1683
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: I saw Calvin Murphy and Dennis Audrey. I saw Kareem

1684
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: abdul at Jabbar. I was there, believe it or not, December.

1685
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: Ninth, nineteen seventy seven when Rudy tom Jonovitch got oh mark,

1686
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: Honest to god, when he's had to hit, picture someone

1687
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 3: dropping a bowling ball from six feet, that's what it

1688
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: sounded like when it's hot the ground.

1689
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: So where am I going with this? And Larry Bird,

1690
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 2: by the way, was just a phenomenal trash talker. I heard,

1691
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: I heard my own ears. But ultimately, someday you gotta go.

1692
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: And could Bird would fight if he was provoked, he

1693
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: would fight. Luca doesn't seem to be the type of

1694
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: guy that wants to fight. That's fine, whatever he wants

1695
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: to however, he wants to live his life.

1696
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 3: But how long can he get away with this? Because

1697
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: until he's willing to.

1698
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: Fill the room with uppercuts some night, I think people

1699
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: are going to really start to disrespect Luca for that,

1700
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: and it's just an opinion. So I'd like you to

1701
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: shed some light on it. Because Shrewder, to his own credit,

1702
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 2: had actually made fun of himself a couple of years

1703
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: ago when he regrouped and got to deal with Sacramento.

1704
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: So you know, at what point it's just really becoming

1705
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: diminishing returns for Luca to continue to do this.

1706
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 15: No, I think I don't look at this at all

1707
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,799
Speaker 15: through Luca did anything wrong. I mean he trash talked

1708
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 15: on the court and made fun of his contract like

1709
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 15: that Warren someone challenged into a fight, and clearly what

1710
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 15: we saw is the system worked. Dennis Schrouder tried to

1711
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 15: confront him and security intervened an end of story. I

1712
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 15: mean they have security ready to be on the court

1713
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 15: and monitoring players, escoring them out of the arena so

1714
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 15: that if there is ever any incident, whether it's with

1715
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 15: another player opposing fan, like, nothing happens. So how long

1716
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 15: he can get away with this, I think forever, because

1717
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 15: there's always going to be security on the court, and

1718
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 15: I think, to lucas credit, he usually backs it up.

1719
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 15: It's not to say that his play is perfect, and

1720
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 15: I'm sure we'll get into their loss against the Bucks

1721
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 15: where he didn't shoot the ball well have those fouls.

1722
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 15: But he is NBA star, and I think that a

1723
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 15: lot of opponents respect him because he's really good at

1724
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 15: what he does. So I think this is more on

1725
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 15: Dennis Schroeder not realizing he's playing in a basketball game

1726
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 15: as opposed to thinking that he can carry this out

1727
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 15: outside of the court, like wwe.

1728
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: Well, okay, fair enough, now what happened? Did Shrewder take

1729
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: a swing at him?

1730
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 15: I don't believe he did. I don't think that there

1731
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 15: was anything any punches throne, But when you're calling people

1732
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 15: vulgarities and you're confronting them outside of the court, you

1733
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 15: don't want to take chances. But again, like I want

1734
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 15: to be too concerned about this, like their security with

1735
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 15: players all the time, and so the NBA obviously didn't

1736
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 15: take kindly to it, and it took them a while

1737
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 15: to investigate play by play. But accordingly, you know, and

1738
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 15: accordingly he's now suspended for three games, gonna miss Sunday's

1739
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 15: game against Houston, Monday's game against the Lakers, ironically, Wednesday's

1740
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 15: game against the Knicks. So No, I don't think there

1741
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 15: are any punches thrown, any swings, because again there were

1742
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 15: security and they wouldn't allow him near him.

1743
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.

1744
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Just I thought i'd read an account where it was stated,

1745
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: quote he attempted to strike Luca. So interesting. It's just

1746
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting deal. And uh, it's it's it's,

1747
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: it's all. It's just griffs for the mill, all right,

1748
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: this Anthony Davis thing. This guy, somebody just put the

1749
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Maloka on this guy. I understand he's torn, he's.

1750
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 3: Torn ligaments, he's got limit damage in a league or something.

1751
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna be out quote months, you know, and when

1752
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: he's healthy's such a good player, or I.

1753
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: Guess it's ligabit damage in his hand. What can you

1754
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 3: tell us about Anthony Davis's injuries? You've just done for

1755
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:08,839
Speaker 3: the year.

1756
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 15: Now, not done for the year. But I think when

1757
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 15: you're looking at what this means for the Mavericks, I mean,

1758
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 15: this is a huge blow because they were looking to

1759
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 15: shop him before the February fifth trade deadline, and his

1760
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 15: trade value is already in flux because they know his

1761
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 15: injury history, and now it's even lower now. But I

1762
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 15: think the other thing is this weird silver lining is

1763
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 15: you know, up until this point, or maybe a few

1764
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 15: weeks ago, the Mavericks were trying to sell some hope

1765
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 15: that because Cooper Flag is playing well enough, you know,

1766
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 15: for Rookie of the Year consideration, they're, you know, still

1767
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 15: have an outside chance to make the play in tournament,

1768
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 15: that they're just a Kyrie Irving piece away from becoming

1769
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 15: a contender in the West. But Kyrie Irving may or

1770
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 15: may not come back. But when you're looking at the

1771
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 15: history of ac L injuries, players are ever the real

1772
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 15: version of themselves until the following season. That's best case scenario.

1773
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 15: And here I think it just crystallizes with Anthony Davis

1774
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 15: even out just a few weeks. Their season's over, and

1775
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 15: it's all about maximizing lottery odds so that they can

1776
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 15: have a chance of a high pick and this year's

1777
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 15: draft and then hopefully next season that pick with Cooper Flag,

1778
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 15: with a healthy Kyrie Irving, and even with Anthony Davis,

1779
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 15: you never know is or isn't healthy, that at least

1780
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 15: is enough for them to be considered a playoff contender.

1781
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 15: But it's always just one mess after another. Ever since

1782
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 15: this Luca Dogris shred.

1783
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Medeena and Medina Magic are Fox Sports

1784
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,959
Speaker 2: Radio NBA guru, also.

1785
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Writer for Essentially Sports.

1786
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 4: Mark.

1787
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: We're twenty four days away from the NBA trade deadline.

1788
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 2: You're really started to see a lot of names surface.

1789
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: Let's have a little lightning round fun here. Apparently Memphis

1790
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: is open to trade office for John Moran. He looks

1791
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: like he's cleaning his act up a little bit. Does

1792
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: he land somewhere else this year?

1793
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 15: Well? I think he does land somewhere else, only because

1794
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 15: you know, Memphis has made clear through reports that they're

1795
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 15: open to listening to offers, and I think, like technically

1796
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 15: teams are always listening to offers, but the fact that

1797
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 15: they allowed it to get public shows that they're ready

1798
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 15: to move on. But it's it's a weird dichotomy here, Bernie,

1799
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 15: because we know about Jaws, that mature behavior and his

1800
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 15: injury concerns. But to a man, I've never since any

1801
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 15: resentment that Jaws had with other teammates. They always swear

1802
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 15: by him and say he's a great leader. You know,

1803
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 15: they respect his basketball talent. When he's out, he's he's

1804
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 15: always involved with the team. He's always given the constructive pointers.

1805
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 15: So I think from that end, it's a little bit surprising,

1806
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 15: but obviously from an organization and it's different. We know obviously,

1807
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 15: you know his flare up, you know, with our first

1808
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 15: year head coach after ironically he wanted to have that

1809
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 15: coach because it was more free willing, pick a role

1810
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 15: type of offense. But yeah, the Grizzlies aren't a bad

1811
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 15: position here because they technically have been making grounds now

1812
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 15: that they've been healthier, but they're still missing some key

1813
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 15: pieces with Brandon Clark, Zach Eaede that even with Jaron

1814
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 15: Jackson junior playing a good level and Santana Don't Tantia

1815
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 15: Delnia playing at a good level, it's just not enough

1816
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 15: to really make headway in this loaded Western Conference. So

1817
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 15: hence I think they're ready to move off from John

1818
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 15: hopefully that they hope that they can at least get

1819
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 15: something in return to that next season they can at

1820
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 15: least be considered a playoff team. But again, Bernie, the

1821
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 15: Western Conference is so loaded, especially when you're looking at

1822
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 15: the Thunder, the Spur, the Nuggets, that it's really hard

1823
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 15: to compete in this conference.

1824
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 3: Very much so.

1825
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,839
Speaker 2: Speaking of a guy having a great year, Michael Porter junior,

1826
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: the Nets. I'm told it's virtual lock he'll be traded,

1827
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: but I know they want a lot.

1828
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: Of draft assets to get back.

1829
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: But it feels like Michael Porter Junior could maybe help

1830
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: one of those Western teams. Where do you think Michael

1831
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: Porter Junior ends up?

1832
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 15: You know, I would I would keep my eyes on

1833
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 15: the Warriors because they do need a wing player. It

1834
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 15: seems like it's pretty inevitable that they're gonna play trade

1835
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 15: Jonathan Kaminga because he just hasn't been the rotation. Steve

1836
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 15: Kerr does not fully trust him, and we've seen even

1837
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 15: when he gets playing time, sometimes he shows his potential

1838
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 15: and then sometimes he shows why Steve Kerr doesn't trust him.

1839
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 15: So I don't think that straight up there is going

1840
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 15: to be enough, But I want to be surprised that

1841
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 15: that's the ultimate centerpiece in a trade involving those two players.

1842
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Man, you mentioned Kaminga, so we won't have to. I

1843
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: think he'll have teams that are interested in him. James

1844
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 2: Harden's name is popping up too, because he's got a

1845
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: player option looming, and you know, perhaps a contender takes

1846
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: a flyer and perhaps you're willing to offer him. You know,

1847
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 2: maybe longer term security. Do you expect James Harden to

1848
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 2: move and who might be a candidate for him?

1849
01:32:59,720 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1850
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, James Harden has defied expectations as far

1851
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 15: as like how much more teams are willing to invest

1852
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 15: in him. I thought once he asked out with Philadelphia

1853
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 15: it was kind of the end of the rope. But

1854
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 15: you know, he was able to get a good deal

1855
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 15: with the Clippers. I don't see the Clippers pulling the

1856
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 15: trigger on James only because I don't think that they're

1857
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 15: going to really be a robust market for him, because

1858
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 15: they've seen that, hey, he can be a good regular

1859
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 15: season player, but he doesn't impact winning the playoffs. I

1860
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 15: think for the Clippers end, they've actually played really well lately,

1861
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 15: mainly because Kawhi Leonard in the last ten games ranked

1862
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 15: second in the league in scoring. But James Harden has

1863
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 15: also upped his play as well, so to not saying

1864
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 15: he's untouchable. To be clear, I think the Clippers would

1865
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 15: love to see if there's enough assets to get, but

1866
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 15: I don't think he's moving anywhere, only because the market's

1867
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 15: pretty depressed on him.

1868
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. How about Zach.

1869
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 15: Levine, Well, it seems inevitable that he would be doubt

1870
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 15: only because the Sacramento Kings are dumpster fire that are

1871
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 15: going nowhere. But he's already gone down this road before

1872
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 15: when he was with the Chicago Bulls, and you know,

1873
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 15: eventually he wound up leaving. But again, I think he

1874
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 15: doesn't have as a robust market as he did before.

1875
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 15: While he's still clearly has shown that he is more

1876
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 15: durable than you know in the past few years when

1877
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 15: he had injuries. He has a pretty slide high salary

1878
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 15: cup number. So I think the Kings will try to

1879
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 15: trade him, but I think they're just going to get

1880
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 15: kind of quarters on the dollar here that I can't

1881
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 15: really think of major teams that are going to be

1882
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,480
Speaker 15: buying for his services.

1883
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 3: So this next name I'm going to mention.

1884
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: To me is what I'm keeping an eye on because

1885
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: I think he's only the player. He's the only player

1886
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 2: on the list that could potentially end up the Laker

1887
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I'm talking about Klay Thompson. It's not

1888
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: a zero. His market's limited. I think Dallas is a

1889
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 2: a ready to move on, and I think one of

1890
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: the possible destinations is the Lakers.

1891
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Is that plausible.

1892
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 15: It's plausible, but I think he says to the MAVs again,

1893
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 15: depressed market. I think, you know, obviously the Lakers have

1894
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 15: shown interest in him over the years, and you know

1895
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 15: that Michael Thompson connection with his dad and being one

1896
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 15: of the longtime radio analysts. But frankly, I don't see

1897
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 15: it only because the Lakers would like to have three

1898
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 15: in D players and I guess Clay fits that mold technically,

1899
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 15: but he isn't the same player as he once was,

1900
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 15: especially defensively. I think the Lakers are going to be

1901
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 15: a little bit more calculated here. I think that they're

1902
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 15: going to go after Kean Alis from Sacramento. He showed

1903
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 15: a lot more explosiveness and a lot more of reliability

1904
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 15: defensively that I think that they'll say, you know what,

1905
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 15: the ship has sailed, and then Timing is no longer

1906
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 15: right anymore.

1907
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: So the last thing about mentioning, because we don't have

1908
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: time to go through all of them, and he blows

1909
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 2: me away and she seems like yesterday I was seeing

1910
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 2: this guy at the Summer League.

1911
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: Can you believe CJ. McCollum has been in the league

1912
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: eleven years? For crying out loud? Yeah, McCollum.

1913
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: But let me tell you, because he can contribute. He's

1914
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 2: a great utility player, he's a veteran, he can score.

1915
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 2: His contract is doable, right, he knows how to you'll

1916
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: handle things like spacing, et cetera. He seems like a

1917
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 2: guy that could end up maybe with the Miami Heat.

1918
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 15: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, Miami is always shrewd here,

1919
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 15: But I think you know, Atlanta got CJ mccollm for

1920
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 15: a reason when they did the watching trade for Trey Young.

1921
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 15: I think you know at the time, and this has

1922
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 15: early changed now that they're going to have some taps

1923
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 15: face to maybe get Anthony Davis. I think that ships

1924
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 15: sailed now. But I think that Atlanta's intent on keeping CJ.

1925
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 15: McCollum on the roster at least for the rest of

1926
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 15: this season, and then they'll see what happens in the

1927
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 15: off season. You know, they've been very encouraged with Dyson

1928
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 15: Daniels growth that maybe he is to the point guard

1929
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 15: of the future. But I don't see that Landa flipping

1930
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 15: him to another team so quickly after just acquiring him.

1931
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: No, that's fair, that's fair. The Trey Young things surprised me.

1932
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 21: You know, I know there's always more moving, there's always

1933
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 21: more that meets the eye, and he ends up going

1934
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 21: to the Wizards.

1935
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird year. All Right, we've crossed last question.

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Speaker 2: We've crossed January ninth.

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Speaker 3: You know, we both agreed that there wouldn't be a

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Speaker 3: deal in the w NBA by the time we got

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Speaker 3: on the air tonight. But the rhetoric continues to be contentious,

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Speaker 3: very contentious. So what are your thoughts. They're not making

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Speaker 3: any progress, They could continue on without a contract. What

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Speaker 3: do you think You still think that basically cooler heads

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Speaker 3: prevail and all of a sudden somebody's gonna cave.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I think I self stand my firm for the what

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Speaker 15: I said last week that I don't think they're missing

1948
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 15: any games this season. I think that core heads will prevail,

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Speaker 15: and right now it's all about rhetoric because these artificial

1950
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 15: timelines are artificial. So yeah, I think I think eventually

1951
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 15: we'll see a new deal being accepted pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: We won't bother going into ganness.

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Speaker 2: He made a pretty both bold statement this past week,

1954
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 2: so instead less he ask for a trade.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't appear to be in the cards.

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Speaker 15: Correct, Yeah, at least for this season. I think it's

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Speaker 15: about trying to show that he's a loyal team player.

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Speaker 15: He does have an affection for Milwaukee because they won

1959
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 15: a championship. They have been aggressive with you know, having

1960
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 15: good town around him. Sometimes the moves will be good,

1961
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 15: sometimes it's backfire, but they've never rested on their warls.

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Speaker 15: And you know, they are, you know, toward the bottom

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Speaker 15: of the East, but they have been playing a lot

1964
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Speaker 15: of good basketball recently and you know, got their game

1965
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 15: against the Lakers the other night, and you know, talking

1966
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 15: to Doc Rivers and the honest there seems to be

1967
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Speaker 15: a pretty growing trust level that he has with his

1968
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Speaker 15: teammates as well as Dock Systems. So yeah, if I

1969
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Speaker 15: had a guess, I think that he doesn't get traded

1970
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Speaker 15: for the trade deadline, and now what that means moving forward,

1971
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Speaker 15: doesn't mean it's a buck for life, but they can

1972
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Speaker 15: they'll at least have to cross that bridge this offseason

1973
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Speaker 15: once they have clarity on how the rest of the

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Speaker 15: season actually plays out.

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Speaker 2: And finally, if the Lakers acquire anybody, my guess would

1976
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Speaker 2: be it'd be Daniel Gifford from the Mavericks.

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Speaker 15: Thoughts I don't think, even though Nico Harrison is part

1978
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 15: of the Bavericks anymore, that Dallas will be doing any

1979
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 15: deals with the Lakers anytime soon. I think they do

1980
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 15: a deal, it's going to be with key On Allis

1981
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 15: from Sacramento. But I also want to be surprised even

1982
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 15: though Rob Polenka is known to canvas the phones and

1983
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 15: try to be opportunistic that it is status quo only

1984
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 15: because it's about trying to, you know, have cap space

1985
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Speaker 15: for next summer, to make sure they have Austin Reeves

1986
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 15: and maybe make another make a run at Giannis or

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Speaker 15: someone else that can be a major game changer.

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Speaker 3: Mark appreciate you man. Great stuff is always. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what the cycle brings us next week.

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Speaker 15: I appreciate yous.

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Speaker 2: the show, much has been made about the fact that

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Speaker 2: for the third straight year, the SEC will not have

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01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: a team will will will not win the national Championship.

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Speaker 3: Now, I am.

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Speaker 2: Going to give a little bit of a brief commentary

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01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 2: a little later in the show, having to do why the.

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01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 3: Mystique and dominance of the SEC is fadi okay. And

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01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 3: there's lots.

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Speaker 2: Of things that have changed in the sports landscape that

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01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 2: I'll get to, you know, player compensation, rules of transfer,

2029
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 2: portal nil, the rise of other conferences. But I'm not

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01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna bash the SEC. For some reason, people who want

2031
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 2: to wait in line say I told you so, you

2032
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: guys are frauds. I can't go there, okay, especially when

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Speaker 2: you consider in the last twenty seven years, the SEC

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 2: won fourteen championships and I didn't even bother to research

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01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: how many of the times the team was in the

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Speaker 2: championship game and got beat all right, So fourteen out

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Speaker 2: of the last twenty seven one conference and it was

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Speaker 2: in front over five schools Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Some of those schools won multiple Now I get it.

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Speaker 2: If Indiana closes the deal on the nineteenth, the Big

2041
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 2: tam will have had three Michigan, Ohio State and of

2042
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: course now Indiana. And if Miami closes the deal, the

2043
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 2: ACC would have three Clemson Florida State and.

2044
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 3: You know, now Miami.

2045
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 2: In the last twenty seven years, Big twelve has not

2046
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 2: really been a factor and the PAC twelve in the

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01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 2: last twenty seven years, you know, other than the USC.

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Speaker 18: Not a lot.

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01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: So look to the old PAC twelf. So look, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be so quick to try to dance on

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Speaker 2: their grave. And I know Paul finebaumas is annoying, successful

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01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 2: but annoying me.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've done Yeah, I gotta tell you. We

2054
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 3: did Urban Meyer last week in the mid that hour,

2055
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 3: and we did Steven A. Smith tonight.

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Speaker 2: We might have to do a little Paul Finebaum next week.

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Speaker 2: I got nothing against Paul Finebaum. I respect his body

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01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 2: of work. I respect him. I don't always agree with him.

2059
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 2: And I'm not really so sure why the deification of

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01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Paul Finebaumb is so prevalent.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's in the South. I don't know. I digress.

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Speaker 2: But one of the features has been very popular on

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Speaker 2: this show because we love football, we live our fantasy sports. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's time Brandon Deutsch and the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 11: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 6: Got one.

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Speaker 25: God, when what is up?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 26: I am back Brandon Deutsch here in Fantasy Files. And

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Speaker 26: it's a little different today, Bernie, because everyone's already won

2071
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 26: their championship or lost, and you know, whatever fashion it

2072
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 26: may be in the semis or whatever that is, and

2073
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 26: whatever happened, you can always bounce back. But I wanted

2074
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 26: to go over some important stats we learned from this

2075
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 26: season with fantasy football and stuff that you can really

2076
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,879
Speaker 26: take in and put into next season when you're drafting already,

2077
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 26: because I know people are already thinking about it long

2078
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 26: term dynasty leagues obviously, that never ends. The first guy

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01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 26: I wanted to talk about is Christian McCaffrey because a

2080
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 26: stat that not many people know. He's been the RB one,

2081
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 26: which he was this year again, or RB two every

2082
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 26: single season of his career since his rookie since the

2083
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 26: second year excluding his rookie year, that he's been healthy. Unbelievable.

2084
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 26: One of the most unbelievable stats you will ever hear. Truly,

2085
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 26: every single year he's been healthy since his second year

2086
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 26: in the league, he's been the R want or RB

2087
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 26: two and fantasy football. So again, it's risky because he's

2088
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 26: been injured four of those years, three or four of

2089
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 26: those years, but if you pick him in the first round,

2090
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 26: you have a fifty to fifty chance of winning your league.

2091
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 26: Probably be Jeon Robinson's another guy I want to talk

2092
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 26: about because he was my one to one to start

2093
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 26: the year. I drafted him first in a league that

2094
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 26: I won a championship in, and he was pivotal in

2095
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 26: those final weeks. I mean, twenty nine point eight Fantasy

2096
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 26: points in Week sixteen, forty in Week seventeen to really

2097
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 26: put the nail in the coffin into your opponents. He

2098
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 26: was incredible. And guess what, I don't think he's even

2099
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 26: close to a ceiling yet, which is crazy. I mean,

2100
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 26: you get Tyler Algier unrestricted free agent out of there.

2101
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 26: B Jeon Robinson could have his RB one finish next year,

2102
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 26: and I finished RB two to Christian McCaffrey.

2103
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 25: Jamir Gibbs. I see a similar year.

2104
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 26: I know David Montgomery wasn't that good this year in

2105
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 26: terms of fantasy production, but they're still going to use

2106
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 26: two backs. It's not just going to be Jamiir Gibbs.

2107
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 26: Even with Dan Campbell's play calling. Some want to not

2108
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 26: at the wide receiver position. Pooka and Akoua ended up

2109
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 26: eclipsing Jackson Smith and Jig but for the wide receiver

2110
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 26: one finish, now here's another statistic. No wide receiver one

2111
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 26: has repeated as the wide receiver one in even non

2112
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 26: consecutive years since twenty seventeen. So Antonio Brown was the

2113
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Speaker 26: last to do it. Twenty fifteen through twenty seventeen, three

2114
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 26: straight seasons as the wide receiver one. Shows you how

2115
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 26: dominate Antonio Brown was, you know before he was on

2116
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 26: the Raiders and Buccaneers. It's a whole separate story that

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01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 26: we won't get into. But one of the greatest football

2118
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 26: players in terms of fantasy football in the history of

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01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 26: the game, and Pokinakua is not going to repeat as

2120
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 26: the wide receiver one because of that history. Jamar Chase

2121
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 26: hasn't even repeated as the wide receiver one since his

2122
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 26: WR one finished two years ago, right or last year?

2123
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 26: Ceedee Lamb two years ago hasn't repeated as the wide

2124
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 26: receiver one. You go down the list, we go to

2125
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 26: twenty twenty two. Justin Jefferson has not repeated as the

2126
01:46:56,560 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 26: wide receiver one. So again, like I said, non consecutive year,

2127
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 26: even in non consecutive years, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they've

2128
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 26: only done it once. Pooka cou has only done once.

2129
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 26: Now Pukaku is undoubtedly the best receiver in the National

2130
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 26: Football League. I think that wildcard game showed that he's

2131
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 26: obviously going to be pivotal in the Rams Super Bowl

2132
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 26: run this year if they have won. Another crazy statistic

2133
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 26: is Amana Saint Brown. He's been the wide receiver three

2134
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 26: three consecutive years, as consistent as they come in fantasy football,

2135
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 26: and I don't think that's going to change. Another thing

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01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 26: I wanted to bring up about history and stuff to

2137
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 26: look at for next season based on this year, every

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01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 26: wide receiver one the year before they finished as a

2139
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 26: wide receiver one has been top seven in fantasy points

2140
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 26: per game all but one in the last ten years.

2141
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 26: Cooper Cup was the only one. Because remember, if people

2142
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 26: don't forget this, Robert Woods was the wide receiver one

2143
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 26: the year before Cooper Cup kind of went on the scene,

2144
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 26: had that incredible historic year. He wasn't in fantasy points

2145
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 26: per game even top fifteen. He's an anomaly. There's only

2146
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 26: a few wide receivers that fit that bill that haven't

2147
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 26: been the wide receiver one yet. Chris Olave is one

2148
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 26: of them, and I think he's the most interesting pick

2149
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 26: in fantasy football next year. With Tyler Shuck and the

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Speaker 26: way he's playing. He finishes as the wide receiver six

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Speaker 26: after not doing a whole lot with Spencer Raler twenty

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01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 26: fantasy points in week fifteen, thirty seven fantasy points in

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Speaker 26: week sixteen, and twenty six fantasy points in week seventeen

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01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 26: to help win people championships. Now that was with Tyler

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01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 26: Shuck those last three weeks. I think he could be

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01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 26: the wide receiver one in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 26: And that's a crazy thing to say. I know because

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01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 26: he's in New Orleans saying and we know the history

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01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 26: of New Orleans Saints. But in fantasy purposes, Kamara was

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01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 26: an RB one just a few years ago. Chris Olave

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01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 26: could be a wide receiver one for them. Another guy

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01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 26: that fits the bill is George Pickens. But the issue

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01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 26: is Ceede Lamb is still in Dallas, right So the

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Speaker 26: only reason why George Pickens even finished top seven in

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Speaker 26: fantasy points per game was because Ceedee Lamb was is injured.

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Speaker 26: Another guy's rash Rice And the last one I'll say here,

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Speaker 26: Rashi Rice. I know a lot is going on off

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01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 26: the field. If he plays next season, watch out for

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Speaker 26: a big comeback for the Chiefs and him to be

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Speaker 26: a big part of it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 26: That is fantasy files for today, some history going into

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Speaker 26: next season. Make sure you take notes on that. You

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Speaker 26: can find me at BSD takes on X. You can

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01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 26: find me at Brandon Deutsche on TikTok. Sorry my voice

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01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 26: went out for a second. Brandon es Deutsch on TikTok,

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Speaker 26: appreciate it. Back to the Bernie Fradershaw all.

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Speaker 2: Right, good stuff, and I will tell you I hope

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01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: this feature continues. I think there's always a lot of

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01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 2: stuff to talk about in fantasy football, even in offseason,

2182
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 2: because you can analyze past seasons for lessons, you know,

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01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 2: coaching impact, player fit, future rookies, especially quarterbacks, for super

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01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 2: flex draft strategies. You know, with the NFL draft coming up,

2185
01:49:53,680 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 2: you might target right, analyzing dynasties, right, and what Brandon

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01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 2: just did some of that in terms of identifying.

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01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 3: Riders and followers or trade targets.

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01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 2: And again, I think one of the things too is

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01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 2: evaluating how coaching scheme new team fits. We're gonna have

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01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 2: eight new coaches. There could be a segment on that,

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01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 2: and then back to draft strategies. There's always draft strategies Okay,

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01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 2: the guys I know like to load up on elite

2193
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: wide receivers, wait on running backs, take shots later, right,

2194
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 2: chasing upside, drafting high potential players, and how do you

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01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 2: how do you analyze that? So there's always stuff to

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01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,919
Speaker 2: talk about. Fantasy football is really a big, big business.

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Speaker 2: So that's just my two cents coming up. The running

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Speaker 2: Frattle show continues. As I said, I want to address

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Speaker 2: the well why the mystique of the SEC has is

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 2: starting to win, maybe not to return, we shall see,

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01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 2: but there's there's some legitimate reasons. And for whatever reason,

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I know, there's sort of this palpable sense of glee

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01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 2: that when the SEC doesn't do well, people love it,

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01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, when they stink it up in bowl games,

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01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: or they don't make it to the National Championship game,

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 2: or a Big ten team beats an SEC team in

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01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 2: a bowl game or something. The bar has been so

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01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 2: high for them for so long that now that they've

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Speaker 2: come back to Earth, and there's specific reasons. So the mystique,

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01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: the perceived dominance is not perceived. There has been dominance

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01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 2: to the SEC. It's fading, and it's faded starting three

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01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 2: years ago. And I'm going to talk about why coming

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01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: up in more of a objective.

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Speaker 3: Fashion, not a subjective fashion.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frider were Kenedy Lyne from the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked, you're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frawdle Show.

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Speaker 2: count you down to all the biggest games for three

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Speaker 3: You still got a lot of stuff to get to tonight,

2230
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 3: including we're going to preview the four remaining wild Card

2231
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 3: games triple header Sunday.

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01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: We're just about little over eight a little over eight

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 2: hours from the Buffalo Jacksonville kickoff, and that will start

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01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: a which should be a pretty entertaining triple header as

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01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: the march of the Super Bowl becomes a little clear

2236
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,799
Speaker 2: after this weekend, but there are four games remaining, including

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Speaker 2: one on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna preview those, and we had a great midnight

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01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,759
Speaker 3: hour segment.

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Speaker 2: Callers are outstanding as always, Most of us believe the

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01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 2: Raiders is a good job, and not everybody though they

2242
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 2: understand it's been dysfunctional and there's roster issues and all

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01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. Well, I just gave my opinions, but

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01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 2: there is sort of a consensus among people in the

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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 2: business of what the top in order of what they

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01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 2: believe the top jobs are. And interestingly enough, the one

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01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 2: they have ranked number one, I wouldn't have ranked number one.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna get to that. We're going to get

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01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 3: to the previews, a lot of other stuff we've got

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Speaker 3: to get to before the show concludes tonight, which would

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01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 3: be three Pacific, six am Eastern. Now let's get back to.

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 2: The SEC, which again there's a palpable sense of glee

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 2: among a lot of folks that the SEC for the

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01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 2: third straight year will not crown a national championship in football.

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: But let me preface it again by saying, the prior

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01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 2: to twenty seven years and prior twenty five years before that,

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01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 2: the SEC won fourteen championships between nineteen ninety eight and

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01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and it was spread over five schools Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, Auburn,

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01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 2: and Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Not bad.

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01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 2: So I realize now that it's not going to happen

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01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 2: this year. And the SEC did not farewell in bowl games,

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01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 2: YadA YadA, yah, but I'm not It doesn't really make

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01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 2: me feel that good to stomp on their grave as

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01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 2: it were. And you know they could come back, we'll see,

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01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 2: But why is this happening?

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01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 3: Okay? And the SEC does beat their chess pretty well,

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01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 3: and they got cheerleaders like Paul Finbaum, but they've backed

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Speaker 3: it up. So the mystique of the SEC, which is

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Speaker 3: what I kind of call it, and the dominance, why

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01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 3: is it fading? Well?

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Speaker 2: There's been significant changes in the sports landscape, and you

2273
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 2: know it's right there for everybody to see. So let's

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 2: start with the the NIL and transferport those have been

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01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 2: incredibly impactful.

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Speaker 3: What what name image.

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01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: And likeness has done, which we all know has nothing

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01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 2: to do with name, image and likeness, it's just it's

2279
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: free agent pay for play is what it is. I mean,

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01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 2: look at the case of Demon Williams in Washington who

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01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 2: got a four million dollar deal, signed a contract and

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01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 2: still there to the portal for the hell of it.

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 3: Now that's in, that's cleaned up.

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01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 2: He's got to go face his locker room and his

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01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: agent even resign And it was going to raise a

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01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 2: lot of questions and been a landmark case had he

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01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: had even.

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01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 3: Followed through with it.

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: In the you know, enforceability of these contracts ins the

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Speaker 2: non employees.

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01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 3: It's weird. We're weird times.

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01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 2: But what the transferred portal has done, because it's incredibly

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01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 2: lenient and the NIL has done, is it's completely changed

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01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 2: how talent is now distributed across the country. Okay, you

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01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 2: don't you know, we're about you know, Indiana is a

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01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 2: seven and a half point favorite. You're about to crown

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01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 2: somebody who never would have seen this coming national champion

2298
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 2: because players from other schools who wanted to gravitate to

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01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 2: that situation and could still be paid. When you got

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01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: benefactors like Mark Cuban willing to write checks and players

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01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 2: who want to, you know, seek playing time and opportunities

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01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: and financial incentives, you could do that lots of places now,

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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 2: not just the traditional big powerhouses all right, and the

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01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 2: SEC at one point could could really stockpile talent, you know,

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01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: their backup plays. Many times, many cases it would take

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01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: two three years to get on the field, and players

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01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 2: want to play and if you wanted to, you know,

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01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: win a championship. It was really confined to just a

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01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: handful of schools. Now it's much more wide open and

2310
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 2: you can go elsewhere and play right away and get paid.

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01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, the depth that these schools

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01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: have is not there anymore. It's being distributed much more

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01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: evenly across the country. And one of the one of

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01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 2: the reasons that the SEC it's not a coincidence Nick

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 2: Saban leaving Alabama and the dominance they had. They were

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01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: the standard bearer for the SEC's elite status. Now we know,

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 2: well LESU was damn good at one point, okay, and

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 2: then they brought in you know, we saw what Joe

2319
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,839
Speaker 2: Burrow did right, Auburn Hair had their turn.

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Speaker 3: Georgia has been superb.

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Speaker 2: But Saban was sort of this patriarch of this dominant

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 2: Alabama program when they were the standard bearer that made

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01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: the SEC elite. And then Saban retires and then three

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01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: years later, and I have a lot of respect for

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01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: you know, Alabama's new coach Calin to Board. There's a

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01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 2: reason he got the job, okay, and he got into

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01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But you lose thirty eight to three to

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01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 2: Alabama Indiana, and that is something that people don't forget

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01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 2: so easily. There's just something about the optics of that

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01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 2: to become symbolic. And then Paul Feinbaum, well, he declared

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01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 2: the Alabama dynasty over, and he declared the sec mistique gone.

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Speaker 3: It is for now.

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01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 2: But how could you continue to live up to that

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 2: after winning fourteen championships in twenty five years, especially again

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01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 2: in today's when you in today's climate with an I

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01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 2: on the transfer portal, so you've got increased competition. You see,

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01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 2: there's just the current landscape of college football. There's tremendously

2338
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 2: there's a lot more parody. And the top teams are beatable.

2339
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 2: They're just simply beatable, when before it didn't look like

2340
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 2: they were. Look, Miami may win the whole thing. You

2341
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 2: can't count them out. It's not automatic that Indiana wins it.

2342
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 2: They lost to Louisville this year. They also lost to SMU.

2343
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 2: So they weren't invincible, and some people didn't even want

2344
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: them in the playoffs. Of course they deserved it, but

2345
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 2: that's where we're at. So when you juxtapose what's happening

2346
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 2: versus how the SEC has fared in the last couple

2347
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 2: of years, to even stephen A.

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01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 3: Smith, the afore mentioned stephen A. Smith says, we are

2349
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 3: now seeing quote mediocrity within the ranks of the SEC

2350
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: and with a lot fewer national title caliber programs than

2351
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 3: you've had in previous years. The other thing, too, is

2352
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: coaching changes.

2353
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: There's been a major shift at college football that's required

2354
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 2: coaches to really adapt to a whole new world on

2355
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 2: how you recruit, how you develop your roster, how you

2356
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 2: compete against other rosters. And then you look at a

2357
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 2: guy like Kurt Signetti and he has been able to

2358
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 2: go to a school that was a basketball.

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01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 3: School and.

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01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 2: Leverage the new climate on how you build a roster

2361
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: and how you build a culture and work at his advantage,

2362
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: and really you combine the Indiana beatdown of Alabama on

2363
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 2: January first year. Alabama was not chop liver. They had

2364
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Speaker 2: beaten Georgia earlier. They were, you know, a solid football

2365
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Speaker 2: team just not great, but they lost thirty eight to

2366
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Speaker 2: three in the Rose Bowl. And when that happens, you

2367
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 2: realize the intimidation factor, the fear factor, the respect factor

2368
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Speaker 2: goes out the window. Casey Stengel once said, teams can't

2369
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Speaker 2: beat the Yankees because they get stuck parents staring at

2370
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Speaker 2: the pinstripes. The SEC can no longer win games on

2371
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Speaker 2: reputation anymore. Whether they get it back remains to be seen.

2372
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Speaker 2: Coming up, let's preview the remaining four wild Card games

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Speaker 2: coming up on Bernie Frattle Keep it locked, Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man, Bernie Fraddles Show keeps

2375
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Speaker 2: rolling right along.

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Speaker 3: My name is Bernie Frattle.

2377
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Speaker 2: Were Kenedy Lyne from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

2378
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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. They'll take you up to three in

2379
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Speaker 2: Pacific at six am Eastern and we are now just

2380
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Speaker 2: about eight hours of way for the resumption of wild

2381
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Speaker 2: Card weekend and some pretty good matchups. Jacksonville Jaguars quite

2382
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 2: the turnaround this season, thirteen and four the number three

2383
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:14,959
Speaker 2: seeds to actually host a playoff game, as the Buffalo

2384
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 2: Bills visit town. You have to give rookie coach Liam

2385
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 2: Cohen a hell of a lot of credit. He did

2386
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Speaker 2: what the Jaguars at Hope derbin Meyer would do a

2387
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 2: few years ago, but not so much.

2388
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Speaker 3: Not so much.

2389
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Speaker 2: But Liam Cohen is quite the quarterback whisperer, as you

2390
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 2: saw the work he did with Baker Mayfield in Tampa

2391
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Speaker 2: Bay and then of course years ago with Russell Wilson

2392
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 2: as the Seahawks were making their Super Bowl runs. But

2393
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Speaker 2: I digress. It's not going to be easy. I know

2394
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo's taken a lot of heat. They've got Josh Allen,

2395
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 2: but they've got some holes in You know, the Bills

2396
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: have won five consecutive playoff openers, but they've all been

2397
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Speaker 2: in home. So the thing is, though I don't I

2398
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 2: can't bet against Josh Allen at this stage in the playoffs.

2399
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a raigning I don't think he is

2400
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 2: a raigning MVP. He's clearly shown to be, certainly in stretches,

2401
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 2: the most dominant player.

2402
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 3: In the league.

2403
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: He completed seventy percent of his passes this year, and

2404
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 2: yet he doesn't have the weapons he used to have,

2405
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 2: and they don't have the defense, and the team again

2406
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: stopped the run.

2407
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Speaker 3: And I think the.

2408
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 2: General consensus is Josh Allen can still inspire fear in

2409
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 2: opposing teams, but the rest of the team doesn't. Okay,

2410
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 2: the Bills had a lot of defensive issues this past year. Incredibly,

2411
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Speaker 2: they won four games. There were four times the Bills

2412
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 2: a lot more than thirty one points, yet they were

2413
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Speaker 2: still four and oh. To give that some perspective, there

2414
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 2: were one hundred and sixteen games this year in which

2415
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 2: an NFL team surrendered thirty one points. The rest of

2416
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 2: the league won ten of those games. Buffalo was four

2417
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 2: and oh. So the playoffs are a different dynamic. And

2418
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 2: I think the Bills are looking at each other and say, look,

2419
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 2: there's no Lamar, there's no Burrow, there's no Mahomes. This

2420
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Speaker 2: is our turn. This is our turn. You can't sleep

2421
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:14,680
Speaker 2: on the Jags. Though they've won eight in a row.

2422
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 3: They're beaten teams by twenty points a game, and they

2423
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Speaker 3: beat They managed to hold off the Texans.

2424
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 2: They won their first AFC South titled in four years.

2425
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 2: And the Jags, by the way, were no slouch. They

2426
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 2: played eight playoff teams this year they were five and three,

2427
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 2: and again, to give that some perspective, the Seahawks also

2428
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 2: played eight playoff teams. They were six and two. The

2429
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 2: Bills they were three and three against playoff teams. But

2430
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Speaker 2: this is the playoffs, quantum physics, win or go home,

2431
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 2: and I think there's a hell of a lot more

2432
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 2: pressure on the Jaguars. I like the Bills in this game, but.

2433
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Speaker 21: I I it's going to be some heavy lifting because

2434
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 21: in the last eight weeks of the season, the Jags

2435
02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 21: were averaging thirty two points a game, second oily to

2436
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Speaker 21: the Rams, and they can take they you know, they're.

2437
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 3: Pretty good to take aways too.

2438
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 2: Just one of those situations where this is evident that

2439
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen and his staff did a phenomenal coaching job.

2440
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 2: I think one key to watch Buffalo and their rushing

2441
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: attack against the Jaguars and their ability to stop the run.

2442
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 2: James Cook is a hell of a running back, but

2443
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 2: if Jaggs stopped to run, I think they can prevail.

2444
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 2: The Jags defense is for real. But again it's their

2445
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 2: first entre into the playoffs and Buffalo lives here. So

2446
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 2: I give a lean to Buffalo. The game that follows that,

2447
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers, I have a hell

2448
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 2: of a lot of respect. I gave major props to

2449
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan last week for the incredible job he did

2450
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 2: this year in light of all the injuries and such.

2451
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles have been playing with their food.

2452
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 2: Can they repeat? I won't go that far, but I'd

2453
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 2: be shocked. They're five and zero at the link under

2454
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts. I don't see the Eagles

2455
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 2: as going one and done. The twenty twenty two Rams

2456
02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 2: didn't even qualify for the playoffs, which is not good.

2457
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 2: But the last team go one and done with the

2458
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Patriots. Do I think the Eagles go one

2459
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 2: and done?

2460
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't.

2461
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles show up in a big way Sunday.

2462
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 2: They had two four game winning streaks, they had a

2463
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 2: two game slide, then they had a three game losing

2464
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 2: streak and a three game winning streak, and then they

2465
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 2: rested their stars in the finale. But I think it's

2466
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 2: time to shake off the you know, the goofiness. This

2467
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 2: is a team that can get after it defensively. I

2468
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 2: think a lot of Jalen Hurts. I respect him tremendously

2469
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 2: for multiples. He knows how to win, he knows what

2470
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 2: it takes in these big games to rise to the occasion,

2471
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 2: and I think they've kept him under raps a lot

2472
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 2: this year. He hasn't run. I mean, I'm not saying

2473
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 2: you get designed running plays. We're not talking about Trey

2474
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 2: Lance here. We're talking about a guy who is proven

2475
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 2: he can make big plays when it matters. And they

2476
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:26,320
Speaker 2: got big playmakers on both sides of the ball, the Eagles,

2477
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 2: and so I think, you know, if the Niners went

2478
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 2: so banged up, and I think they've got to be

2479
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 2: a little disappointed the way they were really pushed around

2480
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 2: by Seattle last week, even though they only you know,

2481
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 2: the defense came up big, only allowed thirteen points in Seattle,

2482
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 2: but they allowed you know, a bunch of the Bears

2483
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 2: the week before. I think you look for difference makers,

2484
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 2: and I think the difference maker is Saquon Barkley. I

2485
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 2: think you got to ride his back against the Niners,

2486
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 2: run defense, keep the Niners offense off the field as

2487
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,480
Speaker 2: much as you can, and if the Eagles controlled the

2488
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 2: game on the ground and Barkley gets at least twenty

2489
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:05,320
Speaker 2: carries and Eagles were four to one this season when

2490
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Barkley had at least twenty carries, which is kind of

2491
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 2: an indictment because they played seventeen games in twelve. With

2492
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:13,120
Speaker 2: the seventeen games, you can't get the ball in Barkley's

2493
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 2: hands twenty times. The bottom line is the forty nine

2494
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 2: ers are so beat up. They're starting their fourth and

2495
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 2: fifth middle linebackers, and they just don't have the pass

2496
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 2: rush they have when they're healthy. The Niners finish last

2497
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 2: in the NFL this season with twenty sacks. They're behind

2498
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 2: the Jets. The Jets didn't even have any They didn't

2499
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 2: even have any interceptions this year, but they had six

2500
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 2: more sacks than the Niners did. So listen, we know

2501
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 2: the Niners in the past and during the regular season

2502
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 2: have done a hell of a job in dealing with

2503
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 2: these injury issues, and Christian McCaffrey has really been their belcow.

2504
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:56,000
Speaker 2: I think he's the offensive player of the year in

2505
02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 2: my opinion. He played every game for the second time

2506
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 2: six years, twenty two hundred yards from scrimmage, and you know,

2507
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 2: I think he though was starting to wear down by

2508
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 2: the end of the season. So I think the only

2509
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 2: other factor is that Kyle Shanahan believed it or not.

2510
02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 2: He's two and one against the Eagles, But you know,

2511
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 2: the Niners just starting to They're just not one hundred percent.

2512
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 3: You can see it. So I'd be shocked.

2513
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:32,840
Speaker 2: Of all the games, of these remaining four games, the

2514
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 2: most shocking result for me would be if the Niners

2515
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 2: were come away with a vercory, and not because they're

2516
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 2: not good, because it's not one hundred percent.

2517
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:41,040
Speaker 3: Period.

2518
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 2: You get to the Sunday evening game and the Chargers.

2519
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 2: It's about time, the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh, and I

2520
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 2: think the world is justin Herbert, but at some point

2521
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 2: you have to start to put those playoff notches in

2522
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 2: your belt. Okay, the Patriots, forget it. They were everything

2523
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 2: as advertised. Everybody gave Mike Rabel a lot of props

2524
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 2: heading in for his leadership, and and A's just incredible

2525
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 2: how quickly, how thoroughly, how successfully Drake May has developed

2526
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 2: into an MVP front runner. He's so good at the

2527
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I see no discernible weakness. He's an

2528
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 2: incredible athlete. Now Here comes the caveat because in our

2529
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 2: society they're always looking for ways to tear things down right,

2530
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 2: So you know, the National Football League is a gauntlet.

2531
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 2: There are no easy games. I don't care what anybody says.

2532
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 2: There are, however, teams on the schedule who are under

2533
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 2: five hundred, teams that are over five hundred, and one

2534
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 2: of the things you keep hearing he's at The Patriots

2535
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 2: built their fourteen game for fourteen win resume against the

2536
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 2: cumulative strength to schedule with a win percentage of three

2537
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 2: ninety one. That was the easiest in the league by

2538
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: a wide margin. The Cowboys were four thirty eight, the

2539
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 2: Broncos four to twenty two, the only other teams whose

2540
02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:09,040
Speaker 2: opponents had a collective winning percentage below four fifty.

2541
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 3: This is also something to note.

2542
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 2: All of their three playoff three losses the England New

2543
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 2: England Patriots had this year, two were against playoff teams

2544
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,280
Speaker 2: they were played. The Patriots were two to two against

2545
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 2: playoff teams this year, and their only test in the

2546
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 2: last three months they blew a twenty one to nothing lead.

2547
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 3: At home to the Buffalo Bills. I just mentioned a

2548
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 3: minute ago.

2549
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 2: The Chargers were three and three against playoff teams, although

2550
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,520
Speaker 2: they arrested their stars in Week eighteen against the Broncos,

2551
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 2: who don't really count that one. But the truth of

2552
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 2: the matter is the Chargers, like the Niners, sustained devastating

2553
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:54,600
Speaker 2: losses this year. Their stud tackles Joe Altra, Shaun Slater,

2554
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 2: They've been long gone with season inning injuries. The truth

2555
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 2: is that the Chargers somewhat overachieved when you consider the.

2556
02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:03,280
Speaker 3: Injuries they've had.

2557
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's been playing with one arm for a month

2558
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know how we still align with that

2559
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 2: offensive line. It's impressive how many games the Chargers have

2560
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: won just by playing sound football. It is a tough team.

2561
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 2: It is a tough, a resilient team. I think Herbert's

2562
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 2: not going to win the MVP, but he deserves MVP consideration,

2563
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:29,000
Speaker 2: and because he's not only a playmaker, but he's a

2564
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 2: great field general. His overall stats weren't great, but this

2565
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 2: is a guy that's got huddle presidence. He plays the

2566
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:38,000
Speaker 2: position with a ton of authority. He got sacked a

2567
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 2: bunch of times. He got hit more than Rocky ball ball.

2568
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 2: And you know, we will see if the Jim Harbaugh

2569
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 2: factor can make a difference. I don't worry about the

2570
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 2: long travel. They're big boys. They know what it's like.

2571
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:51,960
Speaker 2: They stay in luxury hotels, they fly in nice airplanes.

2572
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 2: They're not taking a greyhound bus. Okay, how will the

2573
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 2: Chargers put Drake May and advice? He led the league

2574
02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 2: with the seventy two percent completion percentage one hundred and

2575
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 2: thirteen passer rating through for forty four hundred yards thirty

2576
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 2: one touchdowns. The way that Drake May is playing, the

2577
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:17,280
Speaker 2: way that New England plays complimentary football with that defense,

2578
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 2: and the way they play at home, the Chargers have

2579
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 2: really got their hands full. It's an interesting line. It's

2580
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:30,760
Speaker 2: only three points in the history in last eleven years.

2581
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 2: You know, if you blindly bet underdogs in the wild

2582
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:35,480
Speaker 2: card around, you're.

2583
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 3: About sixty six percent. Sure enough, both dogs covered Saturday.

2584
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 3: Now do I think the Buffalo Bills they're now a dog?

2585
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 3: They opened up a one point favorite. Now they're getting

2586
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 3: one and a half. Yeah, they can cover the Niners.

2587
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 3: That lines up to six points. Now they could cover

2588
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 3: that game. I can't see him winning it. The Chargers

2589
02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 3: are getting three ish, I think. I don't know. I

2590
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 3: just don't know. It'd be a hell of a win

2591
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:02,880
Speaker 3: for the Chargers. And at some.

2592
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:06,880
Speaker 2: Point, you know, the old axiom, they got to stop charging.

2593
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:08,720
Speaker 2: At least the don't have Brandon Staley to worry about.

2594
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 2: But this is this is where Jim Harbaugh finds a

2595
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 2: way to earn his money.

2596
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be able to do it. Finally,

2597
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 3: we jumped to Monday night.

2598
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 2: And this is a game that I think should have

2599
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 2: a lot of national interests for a multitude of reasons,

2600
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:25,160
Speaker 2: not the least of which Aaron Rodgers is back in

2601
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs for the first time in five years. This

2602
02:13:28,280 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 2: is precisely the reason the Pittsburgh Steelers got Aaron Rodgers.

2603
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 2: They had a defactive, de facto playoff game against the

2604
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:42,640
Speaker 2: Ravens last week.

2605
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 3: It prevailed.

2606
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 2: Of course, they brought it upon themselves because the week

2607
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 2: before in Cleveland they laid an egg. But for all

2608
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 2: the folks who wanted Mike Tomlin go and I think

2609
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, right, I just you have to ask yourself

2610
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 2: who you can replace him with. You know, you can

2611
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 2: get give me the usual suspects, But that doesn't do

2612
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 2: it for me. Now I know that the pundits it's

2613
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:11,600
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's is a home dog getting three points, three and

2614
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 2: a half points, three points depending on where you shop,

2615
02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:18,400
Speaker 2: And it's exactly the same spread they were getting against

2616
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:20,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers last week. They escaped in the finale twenty six,

2617
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 2: twenty four, and you could blame you know, the kicker

2618
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 2: if he makes the field goal. We're having a different conversation.

2619
02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:31,480
Speaker 2: But the fact that the Ravens that get to that point, okay,

2620
02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 2: that's on them. Maybe not start the season one and

2621
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 2: five and the losing streaks and blowing some games down

2622
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 2: the stretch, and they were without Muglamar Jackson for four

2623
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:43,800
Speaker 2: or five games, which seems to be the annual right

2624
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 2: of passage. So you've got a situation now where Pittsburgh

2625
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 2: and for some people, they remain sort of this punchline.

2626
02:14:55,840 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 2: And I can tell you eighty percent of the expertsquote

2627
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:01,600
Speaker 2: unquote experts are picking.

2628
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 3: The Texans to win. I think the Steelers are gonna win.

2629
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:10,120
Speaker 2: They've won four of their last five games, including a

2630
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 2: sweep of the Ravens.

2631
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 3: And let's not forget.

2632
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 2: They stroll up to Detroit and beat a pretty good

2633
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:19,120
Speaker 2: Detroit team. They had a two to five stretch mid season,

2634
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 2: and everybody was dumping dirt on their grave already basically saying, see,

2635
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:26,000
Speaker 2: you can't win with a forty two year old quarterback.

2636
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

2637
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 2: Okay, the question is does Pittsburgh have the culture, the

2638
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 2: DNA of the history, and the defensive veterans and a

2639
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 2: quarterback who's got one more left in him to rally

2640
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 2: for one last stand. I say yes, Rogers in the

2641
02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:49,120
Speaker 2: playoffs can be scary, and it started last week against Baltimore.

2642
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 2: Look in his eyes and some of the throws he made. Now,

2643
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 2: the Texans, let's give them their props. They're badass and

2644
02:15:57,840 --> 02:15:58,880
Speaker 2: they're surging.

2645
02:16:00,200 --> 02:16:01,040
Speaker 3: Game winning streak.

2646
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:03,240
Speaker 2: They finished second to the Seahawks by three points in

2647
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:06,880
Speaker 2: points allowed, forty seven sacks tied with the Seahawks, and

2648
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 2: rams their top six twenty nine takeaways rank third. Demiico

2649
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 2: Ryans his imprint on the team, his imprint on the

2650
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,560
Speaker 2: defense has been phenomenal, and the.

2651
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 3: Truth is they're going to need that defense to win

2652
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 3: the game.

2653
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,600
Speaker 2: For him, it's as good as a defense as Pittsburgh

2654
02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:26,480
Speaker 2: will have seen all year. They are fast, they fly

2655
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:29,480
Speaker 2: to the ball, and they're fast on all three levels.

2656
02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:35,359
Speaker 2: Houston's defense is awesome. They have a pass rush, they're speedy,

2657
02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:40,480
Speaker 2: they're athletic. They hit you hard. Aaron Rodgers can still

2658
02:16:40,480 --> 02:16:43,720
Speaker 2: get the ball out of his hand quick. Houston is

2659
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:48,200
Speaker 2: the better team and it's reflected in the line. And yes,

2660
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:51,080
Speaker 2: here comes the hard part. The Steelers are only one

2661
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:53,800
Speaker 2: in five against playoff teams this year, which is the

2662
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 2: worst record of any playoff team currently in the field.

2663
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 3: Now the Texans, we're.

2664
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 2: Only four and four against playoff teams. But remember the

2665
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 2: Texans started out zero to three and one in five

2666
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,360
Speaker 2: and they turn it around since Week eate their four

2667
02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:10,480
Speaker 2: and one against playoff teams. So not only did they

2668
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:13,879
Speaker 2: get hot, but they were beating quality opponents. Now, let's

2669
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: not forget Texans got a pretty good quarterback too, and CJ.

2670
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:17,080
Speaker 3: Stroud.

2671
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:21,000
Speaker 2: He had a good season for the Texans, and they've restocked.

2672
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 2: They've got some good skilled players, starting with Nico Collins.

2673
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:30,879
Speaker 2: They remade their offensive line and it's improved now.

2674
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:31,880
Speaker 3: CJ.

2675
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:33,959
Speaker 2: Stroud has also won at least one playoff game in

2676
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:36,560
Speaker 2: his last two seasons. He's trying to do that for

2677
02:17:36,640 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 2: three straight seasons. Their offense coming along their defense is nasty.

2678
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:46,480
Speaker 2: So there's your matchup. Ken Aaron Rodgers the wily Ovett

2679
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:51,480
Speaker 2: navigate that defense and make just one more play against

2680
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 2: the Texans, just like they did against the Ravens last week.

2681
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out we're gonna find out. We had

2682
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:03,959
Speaker 2: one visiting team wins Saturday, the other visiting team could

2683
02:18:03,959 --> 02:18:05,800
Speaker 2: have won, lost it, and last end of the game

2684
02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:09,160
Speaker 2: blew a twenty one to three league and in the

2685
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 2: National Football League, the playoffs can be very, very unpredictable.

2686
02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:17,760
Speaker 2: By the way, for the best pregame show every weekend,

2687
02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown to Kickoff,

2688
02:18:20,720 --> 02:18:23,960
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2689
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:25,959
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2690
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,360
Speaker 2: right up until kickoff. For all the best plays in

2691
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:31,120
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2692
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:34,240
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2693
02:18:34,760 --> 02:18:39,160
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2694
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:42,160
Speaker 2: app Coming up. There are many things we have to

2695
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 2: get to including, including, but not limited to ranking.

2696
02:18:46,959 --> 02:18:48,640
Speaker 3: According to the experts.

2697
02:18:49,160 --> 02:18:52,080
Speaker 2: The best jobs are the ones open now in the NFL,

2698
02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 2: and it list differs quite a bit from mine. I'm

2699
02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:57,040
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto, come to your life from Las Vegas, Fox

2700
02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:58,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios.

2701
02:18:58,280 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 3: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie.

2702
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:04,080
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2703
02:19:11,959 --> 02:19:15,120
Speaker 2: They were back on the Burnie Frattle show Fox Sports Radio.

2704
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:17,679
Speaker 3: Earlier in the show, during the midnight.

2705
02:19:17,360 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 2: Hour, I made the point that I thought the Raiders

2706
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:25,840
Speaker 2: job was a good job. Uh, you got the number

2707
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:28,360
Speaker 2: one pick one hundred million dollars in cap space, you

2708
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 2: get to live here in Vegas. And the truth of

2709
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:34,160
Speaker 2: the matter is, if you are the one to resurrect

2710
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 2: this one time iconic franchise who continues to want to

2711
02:19:37,800 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 2: live in the past, you're going to walk on water.

2712
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 2: But according to a group of experts that compile the list,

2713
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:48,560
Speaker 2: the Raiders were the second to worst job. According to them,

2714
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:51,360
Speaker 2: they came in number seven because they believe the roster

2715
02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:56,359
Speaker 2: is in a very difficult place. True, there's real questions

2716
02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:58,240
Speaker 2: on how they operate on a day to day basis.

2717
02:19:58,280 --> 02:20:02,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of respect for John spy Tech, but

2718
02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 2: this has been an organization that's defined dysfunction the past

2719
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:10,000
Speaker 2: ten years and beyond. That's why they're paying six coaches

2720
02:20:10,040 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars this next season. So you got to

2721
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:15,120
Speaker 2: break in a new quarterback, you got to find a

2722
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:17,480
Speaker 2: running game that can match its personnel, you got to

2723
02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:18,480
Speaker 2: completely revamp the.

2724
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:21,720
Speaker 3: Defense, and that's just the beginning. So they got him.

2725
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 2: It's the second to worst. But I see opportunity. Okay, again,

2726
02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 2: you got the number one pick and you've got one

2727
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 2: hundred million cash based Other franchises have turned it around.

2728
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:31,200
Speaker 3: Why not here?

2729
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, again, you've a couple of my callers pointed out,

2730
02:20:34,520 --> 02:20:37,600
Speaker 2: there's dysfunction. They had the worst job as Cleveland Browns.

2731
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,800
Speaker 2: They're in a difficult division, they've never won that division,

2732
02:20:41,800 --> 02:20:45,080
Speaker 2: and you parted ways with a coach who's way better.

2733
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:46,040
Speaker 3: Than people give them credit for.

2734
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:49,480
Speaker 2: And so they're going to have to be bringing in

2735
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:53,320
Speaker 2: a coach who's not a first time coach. But whether

2736
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 2: or not they do that remains to be seen. I

2737
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:58,879
Speaker 2: would suspicion Jim Schwartz is going to get consideration use

2738
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,840
Speaker 2: their current defense and court. He was the head coach

2739
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 2: of the Alliance for a while. I think they'll talk

2740
02:21:05,959 --> 02:21:08,600
Speaker 2: to Mike McDaniel as well, because they need to develop

2741
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,680
Speaker 2: an offense there in Cleveland. But you also inherit the

2742
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Shdor Sanders situation, and according to one executive, he said,

2743
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:17,200
Speaker 2: that's going to take a lot of finests to navigate

2744
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 2: through that. Who did they think the best job was,

2745
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:23,400
Speaker 2: I believe it or not. To Baltimore Ravens. They believe

2746
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 2: they're an elite franchise through a blue blood franchise. They

2747
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 2: got a top GM, a front office that has shown

2748
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:34,960
Speaker 2: an ability to bring in talent. You got a top

2749
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:38,199
Speaker 2: five NFL quarterback and he's under contract, and.

2750
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 3: It's they're stable.

2751
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:42,280
Speaker 2: The last coach kept his job eighteen years in the

2752
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:46,160
Speaker 2: ownership I think likes stability. So it's an ideal landing spot.

2753
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:48,560
Speaker 2: Maybe for a veteran head coach. I don't think it is.

2754
02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:52,520
Speaker 2: I think there's only one did Super Bowl or busted

2755
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:56,080
Speaker 2: right away. Okay, if you win it, you may not

2756
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:58,160
Speaker 2: get credit that it was in place of maybe John

2757
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:00,640
Speaker 2: Harbaugh couldn't figure it out. I think you might see

2758
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:03,280
Speaker 2: Jesse Mintor, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers, be a

2759
02:22:03,320 --> 02:22:07,440
Speaker 2: guy that the Ravens tap on the shoulder. He's a

2760
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:12,240
Speaker 2: big time rising candidate. Interestingly enough, they thought the second

2761
02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:13,720
Speaker 2: best job was the Atlanta Falcons.

2762
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I don't know. I think

2763
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:19,919
Speaker 3: Michael Poenix.

2764
02:22:19,760 --> 02:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Has major injury concerns, and I would say that I

2765
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:26,280
Speaker 2: don't know if he's a major league quarterback, and I

2766
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:28,960
Speaker 2: know Kirk Cousins isn't. So they do have some skill

2767
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:33,040
Speaker 2: position players and b John Robinson, And you know, the

2768
02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:36,800
Speaker 2: beauty of it is is that that division is there

2769
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:38,520
Speaker 2: for the taking. I mean, you had a sub five

2770
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:41,360
Speaker 2: hundred team win it last year, in the year before,

2771
02:22:41,360 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 2: this year, and the year before, so.

2772
02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:48,400
Speaker 3: You know, I think Kevin Stefanski is a guy that

2773
02:22:48,440 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 3: they'll look at hard.

2774
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll hire him. I don't feel

2775
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:55,640
Speaker 2: that that's a great job. Finally, the New York Giants

2776
02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:57,280
Speaker 2: checked into third. I'm not going to go through all

2777
02:22:57,320 --> 02:23:00,880
Speaker 2: eight somehow. They are still perceived to be franchise and

2778
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:03,920
Speaker 2: a lot of coaches eyes it's New York. They've invested

2779
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 2: a lot of draft capital and young talent that's getting

2780
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:11,560
Speaker 2: better in the NFC East has three great quarterbacks. But

2781
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:16,800
Speaker 2: I think Jackson Dart I've told Mike McCarthy may get

2782
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:19,720
Speaker 2: that job, and I'm just not a McCarthy guy.

2783
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a great job either. It's

2784
02:23:22,680 --> 02:23:25,200
Speaker 3: just it's I don't know what it is, man. They're jenks.

2785
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:29,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, one last note about John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: This this is courtesy of Tony Grocy, who does a

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Speaker 2: great job in Cleveland. He's a guy that hurt unintentionally

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Speaker 2: hurt Shudor Sanders feelings, but he tells it like it is.

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Speaker 2: He said cool. He found out that John Harbaugh's requirements.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't confirmed this with a second or third source,

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Speaker 2: but Tony Grosey is very very well respected. He's indicated

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Speaker 2: that John Harbaugh's requirements if someone's going to have designs

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Speaker 2: on bringing him in as their next head coach, twenty

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Speaker 2: million in salary per year, ten million staff budget, total

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Speaker 2: authority over the roster, and would like to select his

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Speaker 2: own GM utter that missus, Lincoln, how would you like

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Speaker 2: your fresh ground pepper with.

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Speaker 3: That as well? So we'll see. I think John I'm

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Speaker 3: not nearly as high as John Harball as other people

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Speaker 3: are gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I just he's okay. He had his time, he won

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. There's other guys I'd rather have. Well,

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Speaker 2: You all football, the NFL football and college football isn't

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02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:30,600
Speaker 2: the only football we cover here.

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Speaker 3: We also cover the other football, fut B O L.

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Speaker 3: We're one hundred and sixty two days away from World

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Speaker 3: Cup Soccer. It's time Chris Purfett's World of Soccer.

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Speaker 11: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum. It's

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02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:01,240
Speaker 11: all here in this report from World of Soccer.

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Speaker 27: Well, the FA Cup might not have the prestige that

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02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,120
Speaker 27: I think a lot of teams have placed to it

2812
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:09,959
Speaker 27: in the past, it is the scene that is.

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02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:12,879
Speaker 25: Unique to the world of soccer.

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02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:16,560
Speaker 27: I mean, all Cups are fairly cool affairs that we

2815
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 27: don't really have much of an example or a parallel to.

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02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:23,000
Speaker 25: In North American sports.

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02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:26,080
Speaker 27: The closest we'd probably come is March Madness, but you

2818
02:25:26,200 --> 02:25:28,920
Speaker 27: kind of have to punch your ticket to the nc

2819
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:33,560
Speaker 27: DOUBLEA men's basketball tournament, whereas the FA Cup really accepts

2820
02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 27: all comers once you're through qualifications and this, that and

2821
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:39,640
Speaker 27: the other thing. But it leads to some of my

2822
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 27: favorite moments in the FA Cup is the upsets, and

2823
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 27: I think we still cherish upsets in the FA Cup,

2824
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:50,440
Speaker 27: unlike the NCUBA tournament, where year in and year out,

2825
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:53,000
Speaker 27: I hear more about how we don't care about the

2826
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:55,520
Speaker 27: little guys. We don't hear about care about the Cinderellas.

2827
02:25:55,560 --> 02:25:58,680
Speaker 27: We only care about Duke and Michigan State and North

2828
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:02,959
Speaker 27: Carolina and all the big, big teams. Sure, fine, whatever,

2829
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 27: but you're never gonna see scenes like this. And this

2830
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:07,920
Speaker 27: is why I love the FA Cup. When we get

2831
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:12,200
Speaker 27: scenes like this. Crystal Palace was a huge win for

2832
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:14,720
Speaker 27: the FA Cup last year. They are the reigning champions.

2833
02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 27: I spoke about their praises very well. I've been long

2834
02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 27: on this band that Crystal Palace is one of those

2835
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 27: teams to really keep an eye on to rise in England. Well,

2836
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 27: they just got thrashed by a sixth tier side in

2837
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:33,880
Speaker 27: the FA Cup mccless field. And I am sorry if

2838
02:26:33,879 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 27: I am saying that name wrong. They are a non

2839
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:42,160
Speaker 27: league team maclus Field makeless Field look co man two

2840
02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:46,120
Speaker 27: one win in the third round stage. This is a

2841
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:51,560
Speaker 27: club that was reformed after a in twenty twenty after

2842
02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:56,240
Speaker 27: Maclusfield Town was wound up. They sit basically one hundred

2843
02:26:56,280 --> 02:27:01,280
Speaker 27: and seventeen places below Palace in the vast system of

2844
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:03,560
Speaker 27: English soccer.

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02:27:03,760 --> 02:27:05,560
Speaker 25: And they just beat Palace.

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02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:10,080
Speaker 27: They just beat Palace with a ninetieth minute free kick

2847
02:27:10,480 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 27: that set up six minutes of stoppage time, but they

2848
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:14,280
Speaker 27: got the win.

2849
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:16,480
Speaker 25: It is unbelievable.

2850
02:27:16,480 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 27: It's the kind of scenes that go down in history

2851
02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:24,360
Speaker 27: that everyone around that area will remember forever. That's not

2852
02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 27: the only big upset we should really talk about.

2853
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:27,920
Speaker 25: And yet this from this side.

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02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:29,600
Speaker 27: I don't even know if I can really call it

2855
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:32,720
Speaker 27: an upset because the name involved in it, and yet

2856
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 27: looking at where they are on the pyramid, looking at

2857
02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:39,520
Speaker 27: the side that lost, I have to call it an upset.

2858
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:42,400
Speaker 27: It's been a long time since we talked about Wrexham,

2859
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 27: and if you haven't watched FX's Welcome to Rexham in

2860
02:27:46,760 --> 02:27:48,960
Speaker 27: a while, if you haven't been following along with the

2861
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:53,000
Speaker 27: latest travails of the Welsh club that was nearly in

2862
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:57,160
Speaker 27: the ground and dead to rights until two American actors,

2863
02:27:57,240 --> 02:28:01,119
Speaker 27: Rob McIlhaney and Ryan Reynolds came a long and rescued

2864
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:04,480
Speaker 27: the team and has put them on a miraculous path

2865
02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 27: that now sees them ninth right now on the English

2866
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:12,200
Speaker 27: League Championship table, one tier below the Premier League. Well,

2867
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:15,080
Speaker 27: they had a chance to play some Premier League competition

2868
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:17,599
Speaker 27: in the FA Cup against.

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02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 25: Nottingham Forest and look, I.

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02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 27: Might be speaking in a bit looking to the pass

2871
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:27,120
Speaker 27: when I should be looking to the future. Nottingham Forest

2872
02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:31,880
Speaker 27: sits a single place above the relegation zone currently in

2873
02:28:31,959 --> 02:28:35,720
Speaker 27: the Premier League. Wrexham, while ninth could obviously still go

2874
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,119
Speaker 27: on a tear and go up from the Championship, maybe

2875
02:28:38,120 --> 02:28:41,320
Speaker 27: not this year, maybe next. So both these teams could

2876
02:28:41,320 --> 02:28:44,680
Speaker 27: be playing at about the same level. Who knows either way.

2877
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:47,560
Speaker 27: I don't think I really had Nottingham Forrest falling apart

2878
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:51,960
Speaker 27: like this three to three after one hundred and twenty minutes,

2879
02:28:52,520 --> 02:28:54,800
Speaker 27: and I got to give it the heart early on

2880
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:56,959
Speaker 27: to Wrexham as they got out to a quick two

2881
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:00,760
Speaker 27: goal lead, and yet things settled in it tied after

2882
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:04,760
Speaker 27: extra time and everything it goes to penalties, and wouldn't

2883
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:08,600
Speaker 27: you know it, a four to three on penalties, Wrexham

2884
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,680
Speaker 27: defeats Nottingham for US and moves on. I'm just saying,

2885
02:29:11,959 --> 02:29:14,360
Speaker 27: if you haven't set the DVR for Welcome to Wrexham,

2886
02:29:14,360 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 27: if you haven't checked in a while, this is absolutely

2887
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:19,280
Speaker 27: going to be on that episode. We are still kind

2888
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:22,600
Speaker 27: of in the mid stages of the FA Cup. We'll

2889
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 27: never know, of course, you know, it will have to

2890
02:29:24,840 --> 02:29:27,760
Speaker 27: see where they move on to who they're playing. It

2891
02:29:27,800 --> 02:29:30,480
Speaker 27: goes throughout the entire weekend. There's still plenty of good

2892
02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:34,280
Speaker 27: games to watch in this FA Cup run. We do

2893
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:37,000
Speaker 27: have a Premier League on Premier League action in the

2894
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:41,200
Speaker 27: FA Cup. That would be Manchester United taking on Brighton

2895
02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:46,039
Speaker 27: and Hove Albion coming up at eleven thirty am Eastern

2896
02:29:46,120 --> 02:29:50,119
Speaker 27: time on ESPN Plus. You'll see also see some other

2897
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 27: lower tier stuff going on, like Leeds United taking on

2898
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:57,040
Speaker 27: Derby County at seven am Eastern time.

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02:29:57,920 --> 02:29:59,560
Speaker 25: Just just some fun stuff out there.

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02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:01,560
Speaker 27: You know, some old names I haven't seen in a

2901
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:06,400
Speaker 27: wild hole city hosting Blackburn Rovers at nine thirty am

2902
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:07,720
Speaker 27: on the East Coast.

2903
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:08,600
Speaker 25: It's it's fun.

2904
02:30:09,080 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 27: You should also take a look over at the Spanish

2905
02:30:11,480 --> 02:30:17,879
Speaker 27: Supercopa two pm Eastern time on Sunday, Barcelona Real Madrid.

2906
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 27: We have a Supercopa l Classico and it's taking place

2907
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:25,680
Speaker 27: in King Abdullah Sports City, Jetta, Saudi Arabia.

2908
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:27,880
Speaker 25: So there's that.

2909
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:33,039
Speaker 27: There's there's more Saudi Arabian influence once again on the

2910
02:30:33,080 --> 02:30:33,760
Speaker 27: World game.

2911
02:30:34,400 --> 02:30:35,240
Speaker 25: That'll do it for us.

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02:30:35,360 --> 02:30:38,120
Speaker 27: We'll see you next time right here on the World

2913
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:40,600
Speaker 27: of Soccer market calendars.

2914
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:44,160
Speaker 3: June eleventh, the group stage World Cup starts.

2915
02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:49,400
Speaker 2: It's a tournament that last thirty eight days. These games

2916
02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:50,760
Speaker 2: we played at Sofi.

2917
02:30:50,480 --> 02:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Stadium in Los Angeles.

2918
02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:57,279
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, USA and Paraguay open up nine pm kickoff.

2919
02:30:58,120 --> 02:30:59,320
Speaker 3: June twelfth.

2920
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:03,160
Speaker 2: That Life Stadium in New Jersey, Att Stadium in Dallas

2921
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:07,760
Speaker 2: where the Chiefs play. I call it Arrowhead Stadium. They'll

2922
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:11,120
Speaker 2: be playing a Staudio Steca in Mexico City, so lots

2923
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:12,000
Speaker 2: of great venues.

2924
02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Thirty eight days.

2925
02:31:14,360 --> 02:31:16,160
Speaker 2: The first week is the group stage in the round

2926
02:31:16,200 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 2: of thirty two and then on to the quarterfinals, semi finals,

2927
02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:24,120
Speaker 2: third play, although the final will be Sunday, July nineteenth,

2928
02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:28,519
Speaker 2: and that'll be that will take place at MetLife.

2929
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,199
Speaker 3: Stadium in New Jersey.

2930
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:34,680
Speaker 2: Coming up, we wrap up the show, and I'm just curious.

2931
02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Do you watch NFL football. If you do, you're in

2932
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:41,960
Speaker 2: good company. You see, they did it again. There's nothing

2933
02:31:42,040 --> 02:31:46,039
Speaker 2: like the NFL when it comes to television, and we.

2934
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:47,039
Speaker 3: Have more receipts.

2935
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 2: As the numbers for the twenty twenty five season are in,

2936
02:31:50,840 --> 02:31:55,840
Speaker 2: you're not gonna believe it. It keeps going up. As

2937
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:58,080
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, here's a tease. NFL sell their

2938
02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:01,400
Speaker 2: highest viewership more than thirty five years. I'll gave you

2939
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:03,480
Speaker 2: the numbers in the breakdown, because remember it's not just

2940
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:09,360
Speaker 2: regular TV. You got Amazon, you got Netflix, you got YouTube,

2941
02:32:09,400 --> 02:32:13,119
Speaker 2: you got the NFL network in addition to CBS, Fox,

2942
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:17,800
Speaker 2: NBC and of course ESPN. I'll give you the breakdown

2943
02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:20,400
Speaker 2: coming up. Like I said, if you watch the NFL. Yeah,

2944
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:23,280
Speaker 2: you're a good company. I'll just share that good company

2945
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:26,200
Speaker 2: with you. Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraderwick Company, Life in

2946
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:29,000
Speaker 2: the Law, the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2947
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Keep it locker listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2948
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:34,080
Speaker 11: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2949
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:37,480
Speaker 11: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2950
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 11: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

2951
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 11: listen live.

2952
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 2: All right, we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show.

2953
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:55,840
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers Mark and Brandon. Great

2954
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 2: job turning all the dials, keeping us glued together, taking

2955
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:02,520
Speaker 2: all the call during the mid that hour, managing the clock,

2956
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:07,920
Speaker 2: issued the brakes, keeping the plane in the air, and

2957
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:11,600
Speaker 2: bringing this program to a gratefulness. You cannot do this

2958
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:15,959
Speaker 2: show without dedicated producers who are on their game.

2959
02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:19,160
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. As always.

2960
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:25,959
Speaker 2: We are seven hours and thirteen minutes away from the

2961
02:33:26,040 --> 02:33:30,119
Speaker 2: resumption of wild Card weekend as Buffalo will visit Jacksonville,

2962
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:35,920
Speaker 2: followed by Philadelphia and the forty nine ers and so

2963
02:33:35,959 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 2: on and so forth, and then it'll be a game

2964
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 2: Monday night. And if you watch NFL football, you're in

2965
02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:48,320
Speaker 2: good company. It's incredible what this league continues to do.

2966
02:33:49,120 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 2: The just reported that they saw the NFL has saw

2967
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:57,720
Speaker 2: their highest viewership in more than thirty five years. The

2968
02:33:57,800 --> 02:34:01,560
Speaker 2: NFL finished this most recent season, twenty twenty five regular season,

2969
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:07,440
Speaker 2: with a per game viewership of eighteen point seven million people. Now,

2970
02:34:07,480 --> 02:34:10,360
Speaker 2: that's up almost two million from last year's mark.

2971
02:34:11,600 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 3: And unlike you.

2972
02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:19,879
Speaker 2: Know, relatively modest increases in recent years, and believe it

2973
02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:21,880
Speaker 2: or not, there was even a two percent drop during

2974
02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:25,800
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four campaign, the twenty twenty five season

2975
02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:33,119
Speaker 2: had sizeable, sizeable jumps across the board, including every broadcast

2976
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:37,200
Speaker 2: window and every rights holder. It's a lot more complicated now.

2977
02:34:37,400 --> 02:34:42,000
Speaker 2: For instance, if you wanted to watch both games Saturday,

2978
02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:48,920
Speaker 2: you'd have to watch one on Amazon. Right, So speaking

2979
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:52,960
Speaker 2: of Amazon, Amazon, it's a streamer, right if if you

2980
02:34:52,959 --> 02:34:55,320
Speaker 2: are an Amazon Prime member, it's easy to It's easy

2981
02:34:55,360 --> 02:35:01,000
Speaker 2: to get. It generated a per game viewer of just

2982
02:35:01,160 --> 02:35:04,320
Speaker 2: under sixty million, up sixteen percent from last year and

2983
02:35:04,400 --> 02:35:06,879
Speaker 2: the highest level in the twenty years of Thursday night

2984
02:35:06,959 --> 02:35:12,480
Speaker 2: football on any network. And not only that, there was

2985
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:16,240
Speaker 2: some there were some really notable highlights in terms of

2986
02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:19,800
Speaker 2: the numbers. Remember on Christmas Day one of the games

2987
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,080
Speaker 2: was on Amazon. There was a Christmas Day audience of

2988
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 2: twenty two million that.

2989
02:35:25,600 --> 02:35:28,360
Speaker 3: Set a company record for a regular season game.

2990
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:32,680
Speaker 2: I know Charles Barkley wasn't too happy with that, but hey,

2991
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Americans like choices.

2992
02:35:34,160 --> 02:35:35,560
Speaker 3: People are going to make their choices.

2993
02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, CBS, who's been a my god. CBS has been

2994
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:47,840
Speaker 2: a staple of NFL football, going back to the Brent Musburger,

2995
02:35:48,959 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 2: IRV Cross Jimmy the Greek Days. They had their best

2996
02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:57,400
Speaker 2: regular season NFL TV season ever, averaging twenty one point

2997
02:35:57,400 --> 02:35:59,959
Speaker 2: three million for all of their games, up eleven percent

2998
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 2: from a year ago. So Amazon was up sixteen percent,

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Speaker 2: CBS is up eleven percent. And you had an NFL

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02:36:08,600 --> 02:36:12,600
Speaker 2: record of more than fifty seven million viewers for a

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02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:15,959
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving game between the Kansas City Chiefs.

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02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:18,280
Speaker 3: And the Dallas Cowboys.

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02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:22,959
Speaker 2: That late Sunday afternoon NFL window on CBS, which.

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02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:27,959
Speaker 3: Is highly coveted. It averaged twenty six million viewers.

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02:36:27,959 --> 02:36:32,160
Speaker 2: More than any program period on the entirety of US television,

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Speaker 2: not just football, not just sports. And then of course

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Speaker 2: you've got ESPN. They posted their second best season in

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02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:42,720
Speaker 2: twenty years, airing Monday Night football, averaging sixteen and a

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02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:46,760
Speaker 2: half million viewers, and they included you know, when you

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02:36:46,760 --> 02:36:49,400
Speaker 2: include all twenty three NFL games, they were up ten

3011
02:36:49,440 --> 02:36:52,200
Speaker 2: percent from last year. So ESPN up ten percent, CBS

3012
02:36:52,280 --> 02:36:54,280
Speaker 2: up eleven percent, Amazon up sixteen percent.

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02:36:54,760 --> 02:36:55,600
Speaker 3: How about Fox?

3014
02:36:56,879 --> 02:37:01,680
Speaker 2: The Fox Network averaged nineteen point six million viewers per

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02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:05,680
Speaker 2: game for all of its NFL coverage. That was up

3016
02:37:05,959 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 2: six percent from last year, the best mark in eleven years.

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02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:13,640
Speaker 2: By the way, Fox NFL Sunday also finished as the

3018
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:17,480
Speaker 2: most watched NFL pregame show for the thirty second straight

3019
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:21,959
Speaker 2: year four point four million viewers. That's just the pregame

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02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:28,400
Speaker 2: show Sunday Night Football on NBC it averaged twenty three

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02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:32,880
Speaker 2: and a half million viewers in total audience delivery. That's

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02:37:32,959 --> 02:37:36,199
Speaker 2: up nine percent from twenty twenty four. And there were

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02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:39,000
Speaker 2: eight Sunday Night games that averaged more than twenty five

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02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:39,879
Speaker 2: million viewers.

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02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:44,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me, frankly. Sunday Night Football also on

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02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:46,840
Speaker 3: track to be the number one show in US primetime

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02:37:46,879 --> 02:37:50,400
Speaker 3: for fifteen consecutive years. That is the largest streak in

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02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:54,440
Speaker 3: TV history period. The only thing I don't like, I said,

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02:37:54,480 --> 02:37:57,800
Speaker 3: Goofy song waiting all day for Sunday night. No, we're not.

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02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:01,520
Speaker 3: We're watching football now waiting all day for we're watching football.

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02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:06,480
Speaker 2: By the way, Netflix, their second year with a Christmas doubleheader,

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02:38:07,240 --> 02:38:12,119
Speaker 2: they set a league streaming record. Get this, averaging twenty

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02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:14,879
Speaker 2: seven and a half million viewers for a late afternoon

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02:38:14,879 --> 02:38:16,560
Speaker 2: game between the Lions and Vikings.

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02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:17,840
Speaker 3: That's on Netflix.

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02:38:18,200 --> 02:38:20,920
Speaker 2: You think they're going to jump back in the game, then,

3037
02:38:20,920 --> 02:38:26,320
Speaker 2: of course the NFL network, it's the one broadcast partner

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02:38:26,360 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 2: as it were, that is actually controlled by the National

3039
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:30,800
Speaker 2: Football League.

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02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:33,600
Speaker 3: They average six point two million viewers for their.

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02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:37,000
Speaker 2: Six international games, and you may say, well that's not as.

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02:38:36,959 --> 02:38:39,560
Speaker 3: Much, Well, it's up thirty two percent from the year.

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02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:44,320
Speaker 2: Before, and the most watched set of international games on record.

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02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:47,680
Speaker 3: I think we are coming to a point. It's preposterous

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02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:50,080
Speaker 3: to have an NFL team in a foreign country. They

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02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:53,320
Speaker 3: have to live there, the travel, it's not logistically possible.

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02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:56,480
Speaker 3: But what is possible is to play an international game

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02:38:56,520 --> 02:38:59,840
Speaker 3: every week and maybe add another bye week. That's very possible.

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02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:01,640
Speaker 2: So every team has to play at least one inter

3050
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:05,000
Speaker 2: national game, and now they're being played in multiple different

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02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:11,000
Speaker 2: countries Spain, Germany, England, Mexico, Ireland. I think Australia's on

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02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:13,480
Speaker 2: The Doctor. We've talked about this in previous shows. That's

3053
02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 2: only going to continue. They love it, they're sold out,

3054
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:20,080
Speaker 2: they go crazy for it. And then you got YouTube.

3055
02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:24,160
Speaker 2: They're owned by Google. They averaged nineteen point seven million

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02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:28,320
Speaker 2: viewers for a September game from Brazil between the Chiefs

3057
02:39:28,360 --> 02:39:28,959
Speaker 2: and the Chargers.

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02:39:28,959 --> 02:39:30,840
Speaker 3: That's the one I believe they got the season going.

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02:39:31,879 --> 02:39:37,920
Speaker 2: And it generated a lot of controversy because some people

3060
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:41,959
Speaker 2: questioned whether it was an accredited method to measure the viewership.

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02:39:42,160 --> 02:39:48,560
Speaker 2: But people are watching YouTube, NFL Network, Netflix, NBC, Fox, ESPN, CBS, Amazon,

3062
02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:52,720
Speaker 2: and it's only going to grow and I think, you know,

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02:39:53,640 --> 02:39:58,200
Speaker 2: the NFL has been insistent that their rising popularity is

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02:39:59,080 --> 02:40:04,039
Speaker 2: consistent with process improvements in terms of how you truly

3065
02:40:04,520 --> 02:40:07,240
Speaker 2: measure viewership. Now, one of the things the NFL did

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02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:10,680
Speaker 2: smartly was they had a very heavily front loaded schedule

3067
02:40:10,680 --> 02:40:13,120
Speaker 2: to begin the twenty twenty five season, and that kid

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02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:15,440
Speaker 2: the league is strong boost right from the outset.

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02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:18,280
Speaker 3: We talked about that. So even in a season where

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02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:18,920
Speaker 3: the Chiefs will.

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02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Missed the playoffs for the first time in twelve years

3072
02:40:21,160 --> 02:40:24,680
Speaker 2: and other historically good teams not doing well, Yep, the

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02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:26,400
Speaker 2: NFL is king You know it.

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02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:29,800
Speaker 3: Deal with it, well, you are, because you're all watching.

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02:40:29,920 --> 02:40:32,680
Speaker 2: The numbers just showed that that is going to do

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02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:35,400
Speaker 2: it for the Bernie Frattle Show. You'll see me and

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02:40:35,440 --> 02:40:38,400
Speaker 2: hear me on this network next Saturday Night, starting at

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02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:41,000
Speaker 2: eleven PM. Meantime, keep it locked up next to Great

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio