1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: I went to a protest in Washington Heights that initially 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: I thought was going to have very few people, but 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: instead there were thousands of people there, just with signs out, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: with music, you know, horns blaring, and it's unlike anything I've. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: Ever seen before, you know. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: To me being there in the street, it almost felt 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: like I was in the Dominican Day Parade, except that 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: people were not celebrating being Dominican. Instead, they were defending 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: their democracy. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: From futuro media. It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria Inojosa. Traditionally, 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: February is carnival season in the Dominican Republic. It's a 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: time when people wear colorful masks like the Diabloco quelo 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: or a rova lagaina costume, and they take to the 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: streets to celebrate across the nation. But this year Dominicans 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 3: have been taking to the streets for a different reason. 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: On Sunday, February sixteenth, people in the dr headed to 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: the voting booth as the nation held municipal elections, But 18 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: three to four hours after voting began, the Central Electoral 19 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 3: Board abruptly canceled the elections, citing issues with the voting machines. 20 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: Perro la Juntas Electoral cding the city and get the 21 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: momento Suspendela's electiones anniveel Heneral. 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: The dr spent millions of dollars on these new electronic 23 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: voting machines and started using them in a presidential primary 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: race that began in October. But on the day of 25 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: the municipal election just a few weeks ago, people began 26 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: reporting that some candidates named We're missing from the ballots. 27 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: This was the last straw in a series of frustrations 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: that Dominicans have been having with their electoral process, and 29 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: since mid February they've been protesting NonStop. Demonstrations have extended 30 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: to cities where there are large communities of Dominicans in 31 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: the United States, like Miami and New York, and in 32 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: other places around the globe like Barcelona and Paris. Our 33 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: digital media editor Amanda Cantra has been covering this story, 34 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: and today she breaks down why this election glitch has 35 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: caused such an uproar and how it's connected to a 36 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: history of entrenched political power in the Dominican Republic. So 37 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: amand that you are our resident expert on all things 38 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: from the Dominican Republic. And you've been out at some 39 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: protests that are happening right here in New York City 40 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: over the past couple of weeks. So tell us about 41 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: those protests. What have they been like and what are 42 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: they about. 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: So those protests have been in solidarity with others taking 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: place in Dominican Republic. So can you tell me your 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: first and last name and why you decided to come out. 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: My name is Rowdy Casara's and I'm just showing support 47 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: for my country, even though i haven't been there in 48 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: fifteen eighteen years. 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: Is enough? 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: Like they all they doing is stealing, mistreating everybody? 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 6: Is enough? 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: Is enough? 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 7: That's it. 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Why you decided to come with your son? 55 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 5: I want to show him from his young age that 56 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: he has to show support for his people. Even though 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 5: he was born here. He's Dominican at heart, so I 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 5: want him to see. He was asking me that he 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 5: was everyone here, and I told him they're showing support 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: for their country. 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: One thing that was super interesting about the protest was 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: that there were people there of all ages. You know, 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: so normally when I go to these protests in the past, 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: it's sort of the same message from older Dominicans who 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: are very, very involved in local politics. But when I 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: was talking to people in Washington Heights, they were young, 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: younger than me. I'm twenty nine years old. And I 68 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: spoke to one young woman, Annabelle Morales, who told me 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that she was worried about her mom because her mom 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: was about to move back to the Dominican Republic and. 71 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 6: She wants to go back to a fair country, a 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 6: safe country with no corruption. 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 8: And I've made a support today, and. 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: I thought this was super interesting, you know, because normally 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the parents worry about the kids, but here you had 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: a kid worrying about her mom. 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: And that's a situation with many people. 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, we have grandparents in Dominica Republic, or some 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: of our parents are in the Dominican Republic. 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: Some of our parents want to return. 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: So let's take it to the DR. You've been talking 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: to people on the ground in the DR, so what 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: do they say about the protests there? 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: So I spoke to one person, Jose Maria Carrall. 85 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: He is a Dominican filmmaker and he's been on the 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: front lines of the protest. 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 7: I was at my apartment changing to go to the 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 7: place where I vote, so I was just getting ready 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 7: for it and then I saw a tweet I read 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 7: about it, and I'm like, wow, what is happening. So 91 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 7: it was actually a chalk so. 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: On that Sunday, February sixteen, people were just out voting. 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Dominican Republic takes their election day very seriously. It's held 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: on a Sunday for that reason, because Sunday, you know, 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: it's a day when you're supposed to stay home. So 96 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: it's almost like the entire country mobilizes to go vote. 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: And this particular election was very, very important. These are 98 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: the municipal elections which sort of set detone for the 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: upcoming presidential elections in May. And now the board is 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: saying that they're rescheduling the elections for March fifteenth. We're 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: bringing it back to her sat Maria Carral. You know, 102 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: he said that initially there weren't a lot of people 103 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: in the protests. 104 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 7: Monday, there were about one hundred people. I don't know, 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 7: maybe one hundred people. 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: And initially jose Maria Kabra told me that there were 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: people online saying that it was only the buppies who 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: were outside protesting. 109 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: And the poppies basically entitled wealthy, rich people. 110 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 7: And from the middle high class, and so there was 111 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 7: this kind kind of controversy to who is the people 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 7: who is going to the protest and how many people 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 7: are going. 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: So all of this class difference and stereotypes were being 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: fomented by people on the outside from the part of 116 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: the government to just kind of like create more division 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: and confusion about as to who was out there. 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so not quite the government, but there was one 119 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: particular candidate from the party in power who was tweeting this. 120 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: It was a way of stopping people from joining, especially 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: because no one wants to be labeled a poppy. 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: And people immediately called him out. That didn't stop the 123 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: protest from growing. 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 9: Tuesday was the crucial day. 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: And he said that there was one moment when to him, 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: everything changed. It was a moment that brought more people 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: out into the street. So I want to show you 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: a video. 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: Is like throwing like is it a smoke bomber. 130 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a tear gas bomb, Okay, that was thrown at 131 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: the protesters. About two to three tier gas bombs were 132 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: thrown at them, and it seemed to come from authorities. 133 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 7: We still don't have answers of who, if it was 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 7: the police, if it was the military, who threw tear gases. 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: So if you look at the video, it looks like 136 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: it's coming from directly inside. 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: So you hear them, you know they're they're clearly like 138 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: in a state of shock because there's like smoke, there's 139 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: tear gas around them. But then they didn't disperse, they 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: started chanting. 141 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 7: We ran, and then we came back again, and then 142 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 7: another tear gas. But we didn't leave. We stayed and 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 7: we just started reporting on social media, and I think 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 7: it helped because then TV came. More people came that 145 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 7: Tuesday night, and that was the thing that ignited everything, 146 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 7: because after that, it was not one hundred or two 147 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 7: hundred people, it was thousands of people in a plus 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 7: eleven data. 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: He says that the tear guys bomb, he called it 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: an afecto bomba where it actually brought more people out. 151 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: And you know, Madie, I found that super interesting because 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: if I was in the Medical Republic and that happened 153 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: in a protest, my mom would be like, no, you're 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: staying home, you know, like, even though I'm an adult, 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: it would terrify me. But instead, what happened was that 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: it creates this sort of like spirit of solidarity and 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: It made people want to come out because they saw 158 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: this as a direct attack on the right that people 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: have to protest peacefully. The biggest one so far was 160 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: on February twenty seven, which is normally Independence Day. 161 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 10: And I'm sure you know this, Maria, February twenty seventh 162 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 10: is like an international holiday for celebrating the independence of 163 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 10: the Dominican Republic. 164 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: It's a celebration, it's a party. 165 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: But instead, instead there was a giant rally that brought thousands, thousands, 166 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: thousands of people out and I'm going to show you 167 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: a photo of that right now, so you can see. 168 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: That's like tens of thousands of people there. Yeah, So 169 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: what was your understanding of what the bigger issues are 170 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: that these protesters are concerned with. 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: People are angry at these ongoing claims of corruption, and 172 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: they're also upset about the ruling party, the BELEEVE. The 173 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: party has been in power for over eighteen years. The 174 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: only party that I have ever known is the Belle. 175 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: There So the BELEEVE or PLD is the Dominican Liberation 176 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: Party or Partido de li Bacion Dominicana. So tell us 177 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: more about the party. 178 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, Maria, and I think that This is 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: in the name of the party right, Dominican Liberation Party. 180 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: It was started by Juam busch Uambosh was a politician 181 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: who was elected by the people to be the president 182 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three after dictator Hefida Rujuillo was assassinated 183 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: and because of fear of communism at the time, the 184 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: US helped stage a coup against him and he was 185 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: never able to be president, but he did started this 186 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: party in the seventies. Right, So this is a party 187 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: that began as sort of like a leftist party meant 188 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: to be for the people. Instead it has evolved into 189 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the center right political organization that has a hold on 190 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: the political landscape of the country. 191 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: Right now. 192 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: The president is Danilo Medina and I actually sat down 193 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: with a professor at Lemand College Milagroscur. She teaches Latin 194 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: American and Caribbean studies and she broke it down for me. 195 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 9: They control everything and they were the one calling off 196 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 9: the election process, something unprecedented in the Dominican Republic and elsewhere. 197 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 9: What happened there is there is no transpidency. 198 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: So does the PLD control the elections if they've got 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: so much power, or is the electoral system, an independent 200 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,479 Speaker 3: system like who in fact shut down the municipal elections. 201 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: So technically the Pellet does not control the Central Electoral Board, 202 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: but the general understanding in the country and in the 203 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: public is that they do because they control all of 204 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: the executive branches of the government, and the only way 205 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: to get ahead in the country politically is to join 206 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: or at one point was to join the Pellet. There So, 207 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: on the day when the elections were canceled, the Central 208 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Electoral Board put out a statement saying that they did 209 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: it because of the voting glitches. Later, there was a 210 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: video that was leaked that showed that the Central Electoral 211 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Board consulted President Daniel loh Medina about whether or not 212 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: they should cancel the elections. So of course, this is 213 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: why protesters are in the street demanding The main demand 214 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: is transparency because they feel like there's bias in the 215 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: electoral process, because thebility is all up in there. I mean, 216 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: that's really the best way to say it. And it's 217 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: super interesting because there were rumors that there were issues 218 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: with the machines and that the Electoral Board was going 219 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: to troubleshoot them, and some opposition party leaders began expressing 220 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: concern that their names weren't coming up. 221 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: In the ballots. So then when the elections were canceled, 222 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: people believe that there was a fraud attempt. 223 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: It seems like it made people very uncomfortable that the 224 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: ruling party, which is supposed to be completely removed from 225 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: the Electoral Commission, suddenly we know that that they both 226 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: the Electoral Commission as well as the President make a 227 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: decision to stop voting. It basically means that the so 228 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: called democracy is in question. 229 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it doesn't look good when suddenly only the 230 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: opposition candidates disappear from the ballot on the faulty voting machines, 231 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: not the pilate candidates. And I mean, Maria, you know 232 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: the best way for me to kind of explain it 233 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and explain how politics works in the Dominican Republic and 234 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: how embedded the pilate is an every day anything that 235 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: happens there is. 236 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: I live in New York, right If I. 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Want to do an event with the New York Public Library, 238 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm only dealing with the New York Public Library and 239 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: maybe some sort of you know, New York City bureaucracy. 240 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to go to the Democratic Party, right, 241 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: even though the mayor is a Democrat. I just deal 242 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: with the New York Public Library. In Dominican Republic, if 243 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: you want to have an event with any sort of 244 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: public institution, you have to shake hands with the bell there. 245 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: You might be asked to do a photop at the 246 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: end of the event with the bela there. They really 247 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: are embedded in almost every aspect of different institutions around 248 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the country. 249 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: Coming up on Latino US, say how a corruption case 250 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: that rocked Latin America is tied to the protests taking 251 00:14:26,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: place in the Dominican Republic. Stay with us, Yes, hey, 252 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: we're back, and today we're talking about the cancelation of 253 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: elections in the Dominican Republic and the mass protests that 254 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: quickly followed. I'm here in the studio with our digital 255 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: media editor, Amandel Cantra, and we're going to get back 256 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: to the conversation now. So why is it exactly so 257 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: concerning to people that the PLD controls so much. 258 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: It's concerning because there have been widespread corruption allegations directed 259 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: at the PLD, and one of the biggest cases that 260 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: went down in twenty sixteen was the ode Bresh scandal. 261 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 8: Giant hydro electric plant in Punta Catarina, the Dominican Republic's 262 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 8: largest ever public works project being built by none other 263 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 8: than Audebrecht, Brazil's engineering giant that's consessed paying ninety two 264 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 8: million dollars in bribes. 265 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Which erupted across Latin America. Other Bridge is this giant 266 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: Brazilian conglomerate that bribed elected officials and politicians across the 267 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: region in order to gain access to local contracts. And 268 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: in Dominican Republic, the Pelelee was implicated in the corruption 269 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: scandal there with a power plant that was being constructed 270 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: in the southern part of Dominican Republic. And what is 271 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: super interesting, Maria, and kind of wild to me, honestly, 272 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: is that in almost every other country in Latin America 273 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: there have been repercussions, but not in Dominican Republic. 274 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 9: The Other Bridge has been in a worldwide scandal. 275 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: This is Professor Milago Striet Court. Again. 276 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 9: Many presidents in Latin America were put in jail. The 277 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 9: only place where the Other Bridge people, you know, like 278 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 9: all these people that were brig that by the Old 279 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 9: Bridge were stealing power and free is the Dominican Republic. 280 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: That's right, so no one ended up in prison. No 281 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 3: one ended up even though the charges of corruption and 282 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: bribery were massive. 283 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people organized back then in protests that were 284 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: historic to protest this giant corruption scandal. And they see 285 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: this as a moment, as a moment of corruption being 286 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: in your face and not being able to do anything 287 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: about it. And the thing about these giant corruption cases, Maria, 288 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: is that people see them as taking money directly from 289 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: the people. 290 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 9: They have taken the money of the students, you know, 291 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 9: in plural areas. They have taken the money of all 292 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 9: these women giving birth to children in public hospital. So 293 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 9: they're taking the money from us. 294 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: So when I spoke to Milagros, she told me the 295 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: story about her mom. 296 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 9: They're taking the money from my mother. My mother is 297 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 9: ninety four and every six months do you have to 298 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 9: go to the capital proof that she's alive. So as 299 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 9: her she can be taken in a car because she's 300 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 9: in a very different positions. But then many people coming 301 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 9: from Sanguana, people in wheelchairs. 302 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: Is very far from the capital, very very very part 303 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: of the Dominican Republic and probably. 304 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 9: Near very near to the to the boarder with Haiti. 305 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 9: So that's abusive. 306 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: So people have this feeling that they're being stolen from themselves. 307 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: The money is being taken from them. 308 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: And they do pay taxes. 309 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: And when I was in the protest at Washington Heights, 310 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: one of the chants actually was yeah ya ya yeah. 311 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: So we're here sending dollars and sending thousands and remittances 312 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: and they're out there stealing, meaning the politicians. 313 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: There has been an accusation, a formal accusation, that the 314 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: PLD has been buying votes. So what exactly does this 315 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: look like? 316 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: So even though Danilo has denied all allegations. 317 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: And Danilo is the president of the PLD and of 318 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: the country. 319 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so even though President Danilo Medina has denied all allegations, 320 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: there have been indicators and reports of vote buying that 321 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: they go into, you know, these working class neighborhoods and 322 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: they offer people quote unquote nino peso or pickup oyo, 323 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: which is fried chicken quinto pesos is like ten dollars. 324 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: So one of the. 325 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Messages during the protests is actually that the people will 326 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: no longer accept pickup ooyo for their vote. It's been 327 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of like funny, you know, like a funny message 328 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: of the elections. 329 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: But it also to me, it. 330 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: Also does speak to how disenfranchised and marginalized some people 331 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: in Dominican Republic are. 332 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: That you're put in. 333 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: A position where you would give await your ability to 334 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: vote instead of demanding something bigger, you know, instead of 335 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: being able to demand a job, instead of being able 336 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: to demand better opportunities for yourself. 337 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: So to me, I almost think of. 338 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: President Dani Do Medina as an absent father who shows 339 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: up every Christmas to give away gift baskets because they 340 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: do that and every four years to take a photo 341 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: with you. And despite all this, the ability is losing support. 342 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: They're trailing behind in the polls for the first time 343 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: in a very long time, and they feel threatened by 344 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: the opposition. 345 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit about the opposition. So 346 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: who are the politicians who are threatening or perceived to 347 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: be threatening to the PLD. 348 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the opposition is also kind of shady Maria 349 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: so Luis Avinadin, who is sort of the main opposition leader. Recently, 350 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: there was an article in the Washington Post that came 351 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: out that said that Rudy Giuliani, we're talking about Donald 352 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: Trump's attorney, flew to the Dominican Republic to be there 353 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: as a consultant because he was hired by Luisa Vinade. 354 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: So then other opposition leaders are saying, well, look at 355 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: this guy trying to get the US to support him 356 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: in order to become president. 357 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: You know' this is what he's doing. 358 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: He's trying to get the US backing in order to 359 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: take the bill out of power. So people don't really 360 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: see that much difference between him and the bility either. 361 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: All right, So the opposition isn't perfect. There's a lot 362 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: of anger, pent up anger, people are taking it to 363 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: the streets. But where do things go from here? 364 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, Mari, I've been thinking about this question a lot, 365 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: and I have been asking everyone who I've spoken to 366 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: this question. And what I've gathered is that institutional change 367 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: is not going to happen from one day to the next, 368 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: you know. So a change in the government might not 369 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: come out of these protests. But what is coming out 370 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: of this protest is an incredible spirit of solidarity, and 371 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: it is a change in the way that people view 372 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: their elected officials. So before people felt abandoned and like 373 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: this term in Spanish comra signacion, Yeah, that people had 374 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: when it came to politics, you know, it was like, 375 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: there's nothing that we can do to change what is happening. 376 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: So for example, with the beld if you couldn't change them, 377 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: you might. 378 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: As well join them. 379 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: So now with these protests that are happening in the streets, 380 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: people are starting to see the government as different and 381 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: they're starting to view the government as accountable to them, Like, Hey, 382 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I am voting for you, so what are you going 383 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: to offer me for your vote? That is makinto perso 384 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: and pick up boya. 385 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: I think one thing that people don't realize is that 386 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: even though the Dominican Republic it's a small half of 387 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: the island that it shares with Haiti, but they're are 388 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: Dominicans in so many other parts of the world, in 389 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: fact leaving because of the political or economic crisis. People 390 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: have been leaving for decades. So there is a large 391 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: group of Dominicans that are in places like Miami, Dallas, Barcelona, Paris, Rome. 392 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 3: So in these protests, is this just solidarity or do 393 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: you feel like the diaspora feel like they're very much 394 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: invested in potentially helping to make change happen on the island. 395 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of both for Dominicans in the diaspora. 396 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: There are things that happen here in relation to being 397 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: dual citizens or in relation to being Americans wanting to 398 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: travel to Dominican Republic that the people want to see change. 399 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: But there's also this sort of resounding message that. 400 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: I left the country and I didn't necessarily want to, 401 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: but I did it because of the conditions that I 402 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: was living in. So we're talking about issues with poverty, 403 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: We're talking about issues with education, We're talking about femicide. 404 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, Dominican Republic has one of the highest femicide 405 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: rate in Latin America. And we're talking about a country 406 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that has a steady growth of five percent economic growth 407 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: every year, and yet in twenty eighteen, the UN released 408 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: a report saying that it was growing in inequality. People 409 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: see the economic growth happening in the country. They see, 410 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: you know, a new hotel opening up in a beach. 411 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: They see these foreign investors coming in, and you know, 412 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: all of these booming businesses happening all around them, and 413 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: they're wondering, well, what about me? 414 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: So this is really personal for you. 415 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Have my makeup done? 416 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: It? 417 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: Spank you? 418 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? 419 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: It is, Maria. 420 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: You know why I mean, you were born here, you 421 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: were raised in the dr but you're you know, you're 422 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: very much a New Yorker, an East Coaster, and yet 423 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: you were brought to tears because of the protests that 424 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 3: are happening on the island where you were raised. 425 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's because, you know, I always wonder. 426 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: How would my life be had I stayed and if 427 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: I had had, you know, better opportunities. 428 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's cold in New York City, right, and 429 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 2: it's nice and warm and beautiful and Dominic Republic. I 430 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: have high school friends there, I have family there. I 431 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: didn't used to feel like an outsider there, and sometimes 432 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: I do because I've been living here for so long. 433 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: So it hurts. It hurts. 434 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: And when I see everything that is happening, you know, 435 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: it reminds me of why I take so much time 436 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: to learn about the politics, and it's because it's a 437 00:25:52,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: way of staying connected, you know. Seeing these protests, for me, Maria, 438 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: something that has also been a lot of fun. Right, 439 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: we don't have to end it on a sad note. 440 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: We candle and I wasn't sad. So something that has 441 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: also been a lot of fun for me has been 442 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: seeing the creativity of the protests and seeing how people 443 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: are using the things. 444 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 2: That we all love about Dominicans. 445 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, we have created rhythms and sounds and musics 446 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: that are heard all over the world. And seeing people 447 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: take all of that creativity to fight for a better future, 448 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: that has been really cool and it has been a 449 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of fun. 450 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: And I want to show you a video. 451 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god, those are like the cheap little horns 452 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: or trumpets that people use like New Year's so. 453 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 454 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: But then what I really like is also, did you 455 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: catch what he said in the beginning? So basically, this guy, 456 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: he's looking in the camera and he tells the camera 457 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: you could be here, but you're roughly translated taking money 458 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: from the government. 459 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: And then he. 460 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Pands the camera to everybody that's around him, just having 461 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: a blast. And it makes me see that the feeling 462 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: of powerlessness that the people had, it's starting to fade away. 463 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: Amanda, thank you so much for telling us about this 464 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: story and for letting us know how much it means 465 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: to you. 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And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and the 485 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 6: Ford Foundation, working with visionaries on the front lines of 486 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 6: social change worldwide. 487 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: I literally went home last night to cry about not 488 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: being in dr