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Speaker 1: There's a lawsuit that Carrie Underwood has been hit with

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Speaker 1: a woman named Heidi merrill Um who's had some success

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Speaker 1: in her own right. Uh. She had a sports theme

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Speaker 1: song called corn Husker Strong back in UH. But she

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Speaker 1: had a song called game On, same title, posted it

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Speaker 1: to YouTube in March and UH three months later. Four

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Speaker 1: months later, the carry version, which Carrie presented as an

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Speaker 1: original version, debut on NBC. Let's hear these two songs now,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me if Heidi Meryl

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Speaker 1: has a case against Carrie Underwood and associates for stealing

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Speaker 1: her original composition, who do you want to hear first? Here?

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Speaker 1: Carrie first? All right, let's hear the game on by

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Speaker 1: Carrie Underwood. Than all right, now let's hear Heidi Meryl's

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Speaker 1: version based on those two clips. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's that stronger case personally open and shut, also

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Speaker 1: open and shut case. They definitely the same thing. Also,

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00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: Heidi Meryl, he left this really key pointing out, submitted

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Speaker 1: this song to Carry Underwood's agent, and then a few

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Speaker 1: months later Carrie Underwood had the new song game on.

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Speaker 1: Well that yeah, that's that is That's huge because it

446
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: sometimes gets a little, you know, a little confusing. You know,

447
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: there's different tracks going around that different people will be on,

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00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: like You'll hit You'll You'll hear like it's like a

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00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: country rock with the words game on a Cardi B

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00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: song that was like originally like or like Amigo song

451
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: that was originally like a jay Z song, but then

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Speaker 1: they decided not to use it. So things get like

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Speaker 1: passed around sometimes. But that's not the case here. I

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Speaker 1: think she's got a good case. What happens. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean that this carry version is done? Are they going

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Speaker 1: to put it six ft under during litigation? Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: have a chance at a much much better song for

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Speaker 1: Sunday night football. Well, I wouldn't hold your breath whatever,

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Speaker 1: even if this was replaced, the chances that like a banger.

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Speaker 1: I thought people kind of liked this song. Really it

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Speaker 1: was fine. I mean it's a it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a tough it's a losing proposition. Here. Write a song

463
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Speaker 1: that's like about Sunday night football working in all these angles,

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Speaker 1: like that's what the months it's a losing game. Before

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Speaker 1: he started, Well, guys are forgetting about the Jonas brother wife.

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Speaker 1: I hope you love it. But that was her original

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Speaker 1: see I know that was her original song before they

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Speaker 1: used it. So maybe that's the way to go. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the way to go. Find something that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of Yeah it works, it's not so on the nose. Well,

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Speaker 1: either way, we'll find out. We'll be tracking this case

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Speaker 1: very closely. Finally, in the news, Erica, let's bring you

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Speaker 1: back in. Got some gossip I gotta scoop here. Um

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Speaker 1: not my original reporting. So I don't want to has

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Speaker 1: it off as such, it's it's aggregate reporting. But someone

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom connected to the Charlotte gossip scene let

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Speaker 1: me know that Olivia Culpa do you know that name?

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Speaker 1: Of course I do. Who is that miss universe? Um?

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00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: And also Danny Amondola's ex girlfriend and Danny Amandola playoff

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Speaker 1: Amadola and Olivia Culpa. Their relationship ended on under less

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Speaker 1: than ideal terms. Correct correct what happened? Um? Well, there

482
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Speaker 1: was some you know, scuttles and cheating involved, and Danny

483
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Speaker 1: Danny in the worst part of it was Danny wrote

484
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Speaker 1: an incredibly embarrassing Instagram post about it where he owned

485
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Speaker 1: cell phoned himself about that he cheated on his girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and then, in a panic move, wrote a horrific social

487
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Speaker 1: media post. Um, that's good when he was caught with

488
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Speaker 1: like z um from Coachella photos were surfacing he is

489
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Speaker 1: a Swedish DJ. That's that's alright. So New York Post

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Speaker 1: runs an item in early May headline Christian McCaffrey set

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Speaker 1: sights on Olivia Colpo after her messy NFL breakup. Uh

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Speaker 1: and then just uh. I think in the past week,

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Speaker 1: someone snapped a photo at the Charlotte Airport of McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: and Cobo together, So guess what it's game. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and Coppa and Amadola is sucking wind. Yeah wow,

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Speaker 1: I'd not hear this. That hurts, doesn't I didn't know

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Speaker 1: she was Like it's like like an executive going from one,

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Speaker 1: you know, organization to another, that she suddenly she was

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Speaker 1: available and different NFL players could just like apply by

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Speaker 1: letting the New York Post know or letting the public know,

501
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: and then it works. I think that's how it works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were spotted together at the t s a checkpoint

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Speaker 1: line at Charlotte Airport The Morning Toasters, which apparently some

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Speaker 1: type of podcast. One of the people from that show

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Speaker 1: saw it and took the picture, So deal with that, Ricky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, whatever. I mean. McCaffrey seems he's much younger.

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00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's more age appropriate, you know, is kind of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's at the end of his career. McCaffrey's just a

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Speaker 1: star in the rock. Not a bad move by Coppa. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's great. It's I don't I'm just

511
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: waiting for his next Instagram post to flip out. A

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Speaker 1: little bit great, that's what's happening in the news. Alright, So,

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Speaker 1: as we promised, let's get into it. Al Riverant speaks

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Speaker 1: at the nfl um Media Talent Summit fireworks in sue.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start right here, guys, just to get it

516
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: going west. I don't think I owe you an apology

517
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: because that's strong, but I will say that I am after.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just this, but this meeting kind of put

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Speaker 1: me over the edge where it's now very clear to

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Speaker 1: me that instant replay, even if the intentions are good,

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Speaker 1: this is not heading toward a good place. And UM,

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Speaker 1: you you have thought this. You had this opinion from

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Speaker 1: the beginning after the of course blown call in the

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00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: NFC title game that which has led to this new

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Speaker 1: rule of instant replay on past interference. Um, what I

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00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: got out of this, and let's and that's how we'll

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Speaker 1: dig into this, is that there is going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of gray area when it comes to officiating

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Speaker 1: replay on instant on past interference. And I'm on team

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Speaker 1: West on this. Now. I don't know where you are,

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Speaker 1: Greg at this point, but I'll let you get it

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Speaker 1: going West because I'm curious what your thoughts were, because

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Speaker 1: it's not the only thing all Riveran talked about, but

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Speaker 1: it was the main course all building up to UH

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Speaker 1: where Riveran gave examples of various plays of example how

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Speaker 1: it would have been handled, and he picked the hardest

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Speaker 1: place possible, to his credit, because like what that's the point,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it would he would say what would

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Speaker 1: you do here? In half the crowd would say one thing,

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Speaker 1: half to I would say the other. And it was

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Speaker 1: all felt like a terrifying look ahead to what's going

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00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: to be an interesting season in the NFL. I like

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Speaker 1: that you approached this the same way Reverend did. He

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Speaker 1: went through a lot of stuff and then he said, okay, showtime,

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Speaker 1: O P I and D p I And that way

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Speaker 1: he knew that he was playing to the crowd at

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Speaker 1: this point. This is what everybody came for. So it

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00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: starts out, he says, it has to be clear and

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00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: obvious visual evidence. You start with the premise that the

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Speaker 1: ruling on the field is correct, and the key phrase

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00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: is significantly hinders does the defensive player significantly hinder the receiver?

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Speaker 1: And like you said, when we saw all these examples,

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Speaker 1: on several of them, half the crowd was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's past interference. That's not half the crowd was. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was all over the map. One thing I saw

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Speaker 1: was that it's almost impossible to overturn an o p

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Speaker 1: I call on the field. If it's offensive past interference

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00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: and the defensive player touches him, it's gonna stay offensive,

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00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: or if the offensive player touches, it's gonna stay o

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Speaker 1: p I. After the review it the difficult part is

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Speaker 1: going to be d p I. As we all knew,

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Speaker 1: and as river N said at the end, this is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we like him because he

564
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Speaker 1: is a direct guy. There is no convolution when he speaks,

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Speaker 1: and he usually comes around at the end and tells

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Speaker 1: you how he really feels about it. And he said,

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Speaker 1: we could be diving into things that maybe we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be diving into here. That's what that was his last

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Speaker 1: takeaway for the defense. You know, it's only gonna be

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Speaker 1: a here is what he said, the trial system. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Well, I think that's uh. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: speaking for a lot of officials. This this rule isn't

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Speaker 1: popular with officials, and ultimately he's an official because they

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna create UM some issues and you know,

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Speaker 1: puts them a little more in the spotlight where they

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Speaker 1: matter less. You know. My takeaways from it. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: picked some hard ones and the room was split. There

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Speaker 1: is only one call the whole time. Because I was

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Speaker 1: keeping track that I was surprised by that where they

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Speaker 1: said they wouldn't change it, or that they would change

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Speaker 1: it like in and the rent and the rest. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I get it that those that was That

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Speaker 1: was what I thought was gonna happen. That is what happened,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. He tried to emphasize and this

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Speaker 1: is what I hope they actually do. And I'm worried

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Speaker 1: because in the past, at this meeting he's emphasized a

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00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: similar point and maybe not followed through. He tried to

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: emphasize how often the call is gonna stand, that the

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: call on the field is gonna stand most of the time,

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Speaker 1: that it's gonna be really hard to overturn it is

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Speaker 1: it clear and obvious that it needs to be overturned.

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Speaker 1: I think the one play that confused UM the most

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Speaker 1: people in the crowd was the second to last play

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Speaker 1: I believe of the Chargers Chiefs game. Uh yeah, great,

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00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: touchdown catched by Mike Williams that that that would have

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00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: been called past interference for the offense and the defense

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Speaker 1: at different points in the play, and he and river

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Speaker 1: On stressed that once the play is reviewed, then everything

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Speaker 1: that's reviewable can be reviewed, which is something I think

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Speaker 1: we haven't thought a lot about. So not only can

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Speaker 1: pass interference be reviewed, but but anything else that's possibly

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: reviewable from that play could be reviewed. And in that

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00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: play there was an offensive pass interference which which apparently

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Speaker 1: occurred for even the defensive one, and there's just it's

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Speaker 1: a lot that any aspect of the play can be reviewable.

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Speaker 1: But I am hopeful that they're not going to overturn

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Speaker 1: much that that mostly it's gonna be calls that standing,

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Speaker 1: even a couple of times where he kind of made

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: it clear that that most likely that was pass interference,

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Speaker 1: but since it wasn't called that he'd stick with the

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Speaker 1: call in the field or the reverse that most likely

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Speaker 1: even though that's probably not p I, but you can't

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Speaker 1: really tell from the angles that it's a dependent on

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Speaker 1: the TV angles that that was a key point. There's

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Speaker 1: no extra they're not seeing anything extra that the viewers

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Speaker 1: at home aren't seeing period. So if they don't have

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Speaker 1: the right camera on it, because it's the ten am

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00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: game between the Panthers and Dolphins and they only have

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Speaker 1: so many cameras, they're like, you're not getting it overturned. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: that play that you just talked about. So yeah, Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Argers week fifteen, Chiefs ahead by seven Chargers marching. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That this would blow people's minds. And Rich Eysen wrote

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Speaker 1: about it. He filled in for Peter King on his

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Speaker 1: Football Morning in American Happy Birthday to Rich was in

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: fifty years old about birthday. Happy Birthday to Emacha Rosenthal too.

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Speaker 1: How about that my wife. I'm not gonna mention her age,

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Speaker 1: but you know what a day shares it with Rich ageless.

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Speaker 1: That's how I would describe your wife. Um, if I'm allowed,

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Speaker 1: and now I love it, it's too late now. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So it was it was third and ten, right, um,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Williams the offensive player, Kendall Fuller on defense,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't think the ball is actually caught.

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Speaker 1: It was a dp I call that put the ball

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Speaker 1: down at the one was out of bound. Because it's

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Speaker 1: inside two minutes, this would be a play that river

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Speaker 1: N said would get buzz down to take a look

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Speaker 1: at because it's such a big play. And like Greg said,

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Speaker 1: what Rivern said was that there was there was not

639
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: enough evidence to overturn in the dp I, so that

640
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: call would stand, but there was enough evidence to call

641
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: op I, so it would be called. All the stadium

642
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: be going nuts, and he announced this is two penalties

643
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: off setting and instead of being first and goal from

644
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: the one with eight seconds to play, it's third and

645
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: goal from the ten. And that to me just it's convoluted.

646
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: It just seems messy to me, and that's what gets

647
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: me nervous about how this is going to impact the

648
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: league in I found it interesting to Greg chose that

649
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: example because that was the one replay where I said,

650
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: this makes perfect sense. There was obvious offensive and defensive past.

651
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: I Appearence. I agree. I think it would have been

652
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: the right call, but it was the one I think

653
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: that the room was sort of like, yeah, there is

654
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: a defender wearing Kyle Rudolph is wearing a defender on

655
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: his back. The defenders slaps down on his wrist before

656
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: the ball gets there. Rudolph catches it, but if he

657
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: drops at Riveron said that will not be past interference

658
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: even though the defender got there first, because it obviously

659
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: did not inhibit it's ability to catch the ball. You're

660
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: not allowed to slap the guy's wrist before the ball comes. Well,

661
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: that was that was one where I think the angle

662
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: was the key where it seemed like that, but you

663
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: never really say it was obvious that the defender hit

664
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: his wrist before the ball got there. And then there's

665
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: another one where I believe it's Evan Ingram downfield and

666
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: there's a slight push off from a linebacker, like thirty

667
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: yards field, and that he said, the coaches want this

668
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: to be called pass interference, and everybody in the audience

669
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: that was the one that tick tech me. Yeah, see,

670
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: that was the one me and Mike Gardi were in

671
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: the corner when we were talking about and we both

672
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: said immediately that is clearly pass interference. And and I

673
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: know the audience everyone was saying, like, it's thirty yards

674
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: down the field, but if if you see someone you

675
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: know making contact that far down the field, and and

676
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: it clearly moved the guy a little bit, and when

677
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: you're moving that fast, it seemed like about as obvious

678
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: as as it got to mean, guy lost his balance

679
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: more than more than they were already having. That we

680
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: should all be in agree with the biggest takeaway from

681
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: that play was what a beautiful ball by eli What

682
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: a throw thrown it out a little nicer, dropped it

683
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: right in the bucket. The numbers, so that we're we're

684
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: in the we're in the weeds here, West and Greg

685
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: just mouth a gape watching Elive's throw on that. Um, yeah,

686
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: and then hail Mary river An hit Hail Mary. So

687
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: that is the one thing I really didn't like, right, so,

688
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll have a different thing, but I was

689
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: just it made sense to me logically. But there's no

690
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: since there's no official rule like what constitutes a hail mary. Uh,

691
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to say how the rules will be. At

692
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: what point do the rules get relaxed and you let

693
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: the let them play, let the boys play. Uh. And

694
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: and even if it's a little more pushing and shoving,

695
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: it's because it's not like anything outside the forty five

696
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: yard lines a hail mary. So it's all a judgment

697
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: by the officials and the people upstairs, and that leads

698
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: to more you know, it's just indecisive. You don't know

699
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: what the call is because you don't know what official

700
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: is gonna decide what a hail mary is. River n

701
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: said it will not be defined, and in very judged

702
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Potters Stuart style on obstnity, he says, we all know

703
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: what it is when we see Well he that was

704
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: one of the things that I thought will be changed

705
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: with this rule. So it's a one year rule, and

706
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: I think something unfore scenes gonna happen with hail mary's

707
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: in general, that they will have to define it, that

708
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: it will change in future years. Because river the most

709
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: interesting thing I think he said was about the hail mary's,

710
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: and he sort of said it without saying it, which

711
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: is essentially they're not calling p I s on. That's

712
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: what it seemed like, so they're not he didn't say

713
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: he didn't say that to be clear, but he said

714
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be officiated the same way that it's been

715
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: officiated the last twenty years, and I think there's been

716
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: like one past interference called on a p I. So

717
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: he was essentially saying there's gonna be pushing and shoving

718
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: and jumping and they're just not gonna call it, and

719
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: they're not going to really review it either, unless it's

720
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: like crazy where someone you know, where you're just jacking

721
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: a guy. But it's it's like it has an unofficial,

722
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: uh separate set of rules. And that just made me think, well,

723
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to actually make a separate set of rules.

724
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Play a smart play caller or a smart quarterback and you're,

725
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: let's say, at the thirty five yard line with eleven

726
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: seconds left and a half, aren't you throwing it twice

727
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: for the end zone? Now? Or I'm taking I always

728
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: thought they should do that more anyways, but yes, is

729
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: out of Hall Mary? Should you take back to back

730
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: to lay of game penalties to make sure you're in

731
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: the Hall Mary zone? That's why I chose the thirty

732
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: five u UH one rule that is not connected to this.

733
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Did anybody else have anything else on the one? Because

734
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: he did go through the other rule change. There is

735
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: one rule change that's way on my radar radar because

736
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I've talked about this time and time again. It's why

737
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't like the extra point getting moved back, because

738
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: there's enough pressure and the kickers decided enough in the

739
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: NFL UH that you don't need to add more. But

740
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: this rule now say you score a touchdown, okay, and

741
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: your wide receiver, you're running back or whomever, gets a

742
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: little crazy. Maybe he uses the ball and pretends its

743
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: toilet paper and wipes his button, throws it into the crowd.

744
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: He gets called for unsportsman like conduct. It happens a

745
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: lot after touchdowns. Uh. Now the new rule. It used

746
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: to be that fifteen yard penalty gets enforced on the

747
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff. Now the opposing coach will have the option

748
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: to take that fifteen yard penalty and tack it onto

749
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: the p A T which will lead to a forty

750
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: eight yard p A t attempt on any penalty for

751
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: an unsportsmanlike conduct or a personal valveall any kind. Guess

752
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: what I'm calling it right here? Mark it down. That

753
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: will decide a game this year. I hope somebody yanking

754
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a forty eight yard or on what should be an

755
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: eighteen yard kick. Well, I'm torn here because on one hand,

756
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm usually you don't really like these unsportsmanlike a lot

757
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: of them are ticky tack and and but they had

758
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: no consequence, just like an extra point, which is what

759
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: you want. You want the extra point to not actually

760
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: happen to not be a play. I don't like that.

761
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: It's like yard extra point. There's mechanics to even the

762
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: We're not gonna go down this road, but you know

763
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: it's just like why we keep on making it harder

764
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: and putting more heat on the kicker. I think the

765
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: kicker out of it because, yeah, the the old penalty

766
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: didn't matter because you got a touch back like he

767
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: would have gotten anyways. And uh, anything that adds a

768
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: little spice to to the kickers expensive. I'm totally I

769
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: want to get rid of the extra point. I think

770
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: it will happen eventually, let's just kill it. To final

771
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on river On one. When he's dealing with the players,

772
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: he's the master of the chide. He will gently chide

773
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: the player before he makes a point, like even Steve Smith,

774
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: which is really playing with danger. Steve Smith, he would

775
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: say something like, we're off topic here, but I'll address

776
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: your point. He's got to make sure he tells him

777
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: he's off topic. D'Angelo Hall running your mouth just like

778
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: he did on the field, did Michael Irvin. He's like, uh,

779
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: or if we thought you were sleeping over there. You

780
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: know he's got that. By the way, wearing a bedazzled

781
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys hat in public twenty years after retired to

782
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: the other thing. We you know, we're I don't think

783
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: we're exactly house boys or shills for the NFL. People

784
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: can accuse us of that because we work for the

785
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: shield and and that goes along with it. But is

786
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: wearing a pull over right now? But to fell shield

787
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: over his heart? But go on with But these meetings

788
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: are helpful to see how passionate a person like Jeff Miller,

789
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: who's health and safety is about reducing concussions, and how

790
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: passionate Reveren is about setting an example for high school

791
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: kids and lower kids when it comes to safety, and

792
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: some of the points that he emphasized, Reveren, we can

793
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: no longer ignore the stats and the data. We're better

794
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: for it now. Some of the safety roles that we

795
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: had in the past. We've got to stay ahead of

796
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: the times. This must be coached differently. We have to

797
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: coach this behavior out of the players. It's all responsibility

798
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: to ensure this trickles down to high school. That's our job.

799
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: We've got to change the culture. And I think you

800
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: know a lot of people see the NFL as this

801
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: giant monolith printing money and really not caring about the players.

802
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: But the people inside there are a lot of them

803
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: do care, and they're very passionate about it. So I

804
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to say that. And I think we're ever

805
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: on who you know, we we've come out of these

806
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: and been singing his praises and maybe the shine is

807
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: you know, war off for some of us during last

808
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: season when people were upset with Riveron for how he

809
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: was handling his job. To me, on some level, it's

810
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: almost like it's almost like the presidency. I mean, you

811
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: can have you know, I don't want to get too

812
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: political here, but it's like you can have a president

813
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: no one, no one's gonna be happy with him, no

814
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: matter what. Like there couldn't be a president at this

815
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: point that is gonna have like Obama had so many

816
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: people that you're gonna be upset with the head of

817
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: officiating no matter what he does. Some level, what I mean,

818
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: it's like commissioner I have gonna be satisfied with him either.

819
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: I have it in my notes from that week. Al

820
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Riveron has an impossible job because not only is it

821
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: always gonna be it's bipartisan. Uh, it's always gonna be

822
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: fighting on both sides of the aisles. So it's not, Yeah,

823
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: it's not. It's never gonna be like everyone agrees that

824
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: they don't like officials. I know, maybe, yeah, maybe that's such.

825
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: You're right, But like the idea of he's just here

826
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: to enforce the rules that the league's putting into place,

827
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: He's not the one that pushed this through legislation. Like

828
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: he's trying his best and he's it looked like he

829
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be the fall guy after the NFC title Game.

830
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: He survived that. Um, you wonder if if this goes

831
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: sideways the O p I d p I replay stuff,

832
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: if he becomes a sacrificial lamb because of it. He's

833
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: just kind of been a tough spot and I came

834
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, I'm not as giddy about him

835
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: now three years in, you know, watching these presentations, but

836
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I also respect the guy and I understand what what

837
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: he's up against, which is it's a reason why Dino

838
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: Blendino took the paycheck and went to Fox to be

839
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: on TV, because this is you know, it's like a

840
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: job that will aid you, like it does it. That

841
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: was that was why I wrote down he was kind

842
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: of like Obama was. He was a couple of years

843
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: into the presidency. Right now, river Ion very charismatic, can

844
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: handle the room. Maybe not you know, as effective, you know,

845
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: pushing that legislation through, but we can't do better than now.

846
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: He cared for what you wished for. I think where

847
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: you and I Greg differ on replay is river n

848
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: says the OPI the DP I roll. This is meant

849
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: to pick up on the big miss, and you sort

850
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: of believe that that's all it's gonna be. It's gonna

851
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna correct the big problem. And I have no

852
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I have no belief whatsoever that the officials will be

853
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: disciplined enough and the coaches will be disciplined enough to

854
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: leave this to the big Miss. It's gonna be minor

855
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: picky plays. All right, good talk, guys, can't wait till

856
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: next year. Hopefully al's there. Finally Greg wrote a banger.

857
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the headline. Greg wrote, a banger, ricky.

858
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: NFL division power rankings full and NFC North stands above

859
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: the rest every division. You got it? What throw not

860
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: a banger? NFC North I think has the best division

861
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: because it has the most teams that I could see

862
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with a good last place team too.

863
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: So there that's the kind of two different categories here.

864
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: But I could see the Lions the Bears are the Vikings.

865
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions the Packers, the Bears are the Vikings.

866
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I could see any one of those in Miami US

867
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: covering them in the Super Bowl. I think it's possible.

868
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: The Packers the Vikings are the Bears that they are.

869
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Those are those caliber teams. It wouldn't shock me number

870
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: one with a bullet. And then you look at the

871
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Lions as the fourth team. That's a nice little last

872
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: place team that you got put, you know, in terms

873
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: of talent, and who knows if he'll actually come in last.

874
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: But I think compared to some other fourth place teams,

875
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: they've got Stafford, They've got some players. You put that

876
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: all in one mix. I feel safe that that's the

877
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: best one. That's one way of looking at it. I

878
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: look at it like the Lions are gonna be a

879
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: better team this year. They have done a good job

880
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: of kind of filling some holes that they needed to

881
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: fill and it won't make any difference. What a tough

882
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: job Matt Patricia has turning this team around in this division,

883
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: you have the a f C North at number two.

884
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Was a close gregor is a pretty clear cut to you?

885
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: I I don't think it was close enough because I

886
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: don't think much separates any of these divisions, like it's

887
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, like there's just not that big of a difference.

888
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: But they're similar to the NFC North and that the Ravens, Steelers,

889
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: and Browns, I consider them contenders. Would be a little

890
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: more surprising to see the Ravens or Brown's in a

891
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, But like the NFC knows, there's just no

892
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: easy games. I kind of favored him that way instead

893
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: of having like one or two super teams. I like

894
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: the divisions where I don't see any easy games. I

895
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: think the Bengals are gonna be pretty tough, and I

896
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: definitely think the brown Steelers, and Ravens are gonna be tough.

897
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: Would I would probably put the af C North number

898
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: one because I think that's fine. It's hard for him

899
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: to make a case for the Lions as a playoff team.

900
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: But with af C North, would any of those four

901
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: teams surprise you if they were playing? The difference for

902
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: me is the I think the Steelers are you know

903
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: who knows at this point, but I would be surprised

904
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: to see the Ravens or Browns in the Super Bowl.

905
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: And so the Steelers to me are more They're a

906
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: championship contender, but those others are a little more underdogs

907
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: where I thought the NFC North had had more power houses.

908
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: But who the heck knows why? Because you think the

909
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: Browns are going to be in the Super Bowl. The

910
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: Browns are clearly a better roster than the Steelers. Maybe,

911
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: but I guess so. Maybe there's something about it that

912
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: I just gotta see it. Maybe that's my lack of vision.

913
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: I gotta see it from the Steelers, all right. At

914
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: number three, you have the NFC South, the Saints, Falcons, Panthers,

915
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: and Bucks. Uh similar set up here. I would think

916
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: that you have three playoff contenders, including a true powerhouse

917
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: in the Saints, and then the Bucks. You could if

918
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: you squint hard enough, Yeah, you can see the Bucks

919
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: is a frisky team. I think so. I think it's

920
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: still the best division of quarterbacks, although you know there

921
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: maybe the f C North could challenge him, or the

922
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: the NFC North could challenge him. It's the best division

923
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks you've got two m v ps and Drew

924
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Brees uh and just looking at the division though, it

925
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: made me realize Dan Quinn and Rivera might be having

926
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of a face off, or only one survives, because

927
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I think either one of those teams misses the playoffs,

928
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe all three, maybe the Saints, Falcons and Panthers make

929
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: it like they did two years ago. But if only

930
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: one of those teams makes the playoffs, I think they

931
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: could could be a coaching change. If Bruce Arians unlocks

932
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, which is you know, a big if this

933
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: this division is gonna be wild. I love those I

934
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: love those games, as you know a year after year.

935
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: Also a good food division Atlanta, New Orleans. Remember our

936
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians conversation about how how plugged in he is

937
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: on this go round. He's not even coaching Winston. It's

938
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: all left with you. I don't, I don't, He's not

939
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: even in the room. I love this. This is very

940
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: funny to see West's heel turn on Arians now that

941
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: he's just being realistic. I don't know if Dan. I

942
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: think Dan would have missed this episode, but that is

943
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: now that Arians is with Winston, suddenly he's out to lunch.

944
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about it. If he doesn't care about

945
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: his job, I'm saying, he's just. If you can't do

946
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: it in eleven hours, you've got no business. He's Phil

947
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Jackson in with the New York Knicks right now, just

948
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: because he's with Winston. Please because you would love him.

949
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 1: That's a that's a way to put that, Greg, except

950
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: for the very obvious point that the man retired because

951
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: he had enough of football. Well he has some health

952
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: issues though checking out. I'm done, but you and I'm

953
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: allly coming back for the Browns West. Be honest, I'm

954
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: allly coming back for the Browns. If Arians goes Tennessee,

955
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: you're singing praises, you're saying, this is the year is

956
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: not built on Jameis Winston. This is built on this

957
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: guy retiring because he had enough of football. Now he

958
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: comes back, and it's all on Byron Left, which not Bruce. Arians.

959
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Take us, Greg, take us through the Tampa cuisine like

960
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: the top. That's all. I realized that I said it

961
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: was the best food broke down a little because what

962
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: do I really know about Tampa Strip Strip Club cuisine

963
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: or Charlotte for that matter. Although you hear pretty good

964
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: things great food court, good barbecue. They got a great

965
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: t G I Fridays at the Airport in Charlotte. NFC

966
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: West at number four, Wow, you know, right to the

967
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: middle of pack, Greg Rams, Seahawks. But I guess it's

968
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: a frontloaded division. I think the forty Niners have a

969
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: good a good roster, so that could be a team

970
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: with that could be a division with three pretty interesting team.

971
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: You have like one of the safest teams I think

972
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: in the Rams. This was the only pick that I

973
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: totally disagree with. I thought the NFC West was way

974
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: too high on this list. Well, the Rams have won

975
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: twenty four games over the last two years. I mean

976
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: they're they're about as safe. The Seahawks have been the

977
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: best of the best team of the decade, and they

978
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year. And then the forty Niners.

979
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: I think they've got some boom. They've got some terrible

980
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: ever since Kyle Shannon's been there. Can we at least

981
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: let them do something before we crown them, That's all

982
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, we crowned him as a team that

983
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: has a ceiling of twelve wins. Well, you said, wouldn't

984
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: surprise you if they're in the super Bright that's the

985
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: Brown's roster is way better. Defense is pretty good. And

986
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: then Kyle Shannon on paper, I'm I'm definitely tired of

987
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: the Niners being positioned as a Yes, well now he's

988
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: doing it. So the quarterback does something. You know, all right,

989
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: here we go, uh number five? Now the back end

990
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: of the af C South Texans Cults, Titans, Jaguars, and

991
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: they made progress. You know this. If I had to

992
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: pick a riser, and I you know, you know, I'm

993
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: not a big Titoons fans, and we'll see about Nick

994
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Foles and the Jaguars if they could turn it back around.

995
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: But if I had to pick a division that could

996
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: shoot up these rankings a year from now, Greg, I

997
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: might just South. That's I think my initial rankings had

998
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: him lower. And I just thought you should give this

999
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: division a little more respect now, even if they don't.

1000
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: They have the Colts, but and then, and then you're

1001
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: not totally sure what's going to happen, but that's part

1002
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: of the fun. I think they'll be very watchable, and

1003
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: it used to be a division that's not to watch.

1004
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: West Another shot across the Joe Flacco slash Chris westling

1005
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: Bow a f C West, Oh number six, a f

1006
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: C West definitely a stronger division than NFC West. Ouch, Greg,

1007
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: did you did you put the right research in or

1008
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: do you think that West is just wrong? Well? West

1009
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: is just looking at last year's rankings, you know, last

1010
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: year's records, where I'm looking at all the data available, Greg,

1011
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: I would actually have done a two hander on this.

1012
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: It would have been a lot of fun, like, hey,

1013
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: do the free agents. I don't really care that much.

1014
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Number seven the NFC East more like the NFC least. Well,

1015
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: this is why, like, is there really that big of

1016
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: a difference between the NFC East, the seventh division, and

1017
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: the a f C North or whatever who's second? There's

1018
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: really not. It's the end. It's the NFL. This has

1019
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: two really good teams. It's just that not many divisions

1020
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: have two teams in it. And that's why I put

1021
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: the a f C West lower two teams in it

1022
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: where I'd be surprised to see them make the playoffs.

1023
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: East that too, But I was saying NFC West, if

1024
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders, I'd be surprised if they make either one

1025
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: of them make the playoffs. Redskins Giants I'd be surprised

1026
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: if either one of them makes the playoffs. So if

1027
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: you've got two of those teams, So you think the

1028
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: forty niners are like in a different tier than the Broncos,

1029
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: I do. I think they have a much higher upside um.

1030
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: And finally bringing up the rear of the a f

1031
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: C East and well, what can you say? I mean, listen,

1032
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: even in the Jets fan that has a lot of

1033
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: optimism about the season, things can go sideways in a hurry,

1034
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: and New York has happened many I was a four Buffalo.

1035
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: People can get excited about the kid quarterback Josh Allen.

1036
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: The defense made some noise last year, but what you know,

1037
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? The Dolphins of the Dolphins

1038
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure you put this, you took

1039
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: this into um consideration to Greg, the Patriots are heading

1040
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: towards a decline. This could be one of the worst

1041
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: divisions that we we remember. Well, it's not gonna be

1042
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: much worse than than it was two years ago or

1043
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: even last year. Uh, even if the Patriots took a

1044
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: step back, I mean, they could be good. I think

1045
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: like the a f C East when they play out

1046
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: of division wouldn't surprise me if these teams figure out

1047
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: how to how to a winning record. They're they're a

1048
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: little more feisty than they've been in the past. But

1049
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of just to my point that there's not

1050
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: a huge difference. The differences come on that had been

1051
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: one of the easiest picks you have was put in

1052
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: a f C. That's true because it only had one

1053
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: team that you could see in the Super Bowl, and

1054
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: most almost every basically every other division you could see

1055
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: at least two. All right, but that's why we play

1056
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: those games. No one saw the Rams in the Super

1057
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: No one saw the O. One Patriots in the Super Bowl.

1058
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: History lessons with Greg do isn't thal? Check it out

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, Rosenthal, NFL division power rankings, nor stands

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Speaker 1: above the rest. All right, that's it, good stuff, guys,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back Wednesday. We got like I said, m

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Speaker 1: j Acosta will be joining us. We'll have some fun,

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Speaker 1: uh talking about the NFL in late June. Pitch yourself, Greg,

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Speaker 1: Why are we gonna post it Wednesday night? Or is

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Speaker 1: that a Thursday draft? Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe Thursday. So just if it doesn't land on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Just know when you wake up on Thursday, we'll be there.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Eric has got you covered, right, Ricky,

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Speaker 1: that's right, won't let you down. All right, Let's get

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Speaker 1: out of here. Is Dan Hanson signing off for the

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Speaker 1: mail Man, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass

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Speaker 1: till Thursday